stardust-crusaders

[wintry rampart]

Jonathan is a inocent brave gentleman like speedwagon said

[nocturne hamlet]

in part 2, honestly the characters have proto stands + hamon

[wintry rampart]

Overdrive!!!!

[polar crest]

He doesn't have much character

[red yew]

But that's kinda a stereotype with Jonathan

Tbf jotaro is aswell

[wintry rampart]

He is not suppose to

[nocturne hamlet]

Jonathan and Dio I think were supposed to set the 'standards' for jojo

[polar crest]

Jotaro is boring too

[nocturne hamlet]

Good and Bad

[wintry rampart]

Jonathan is what he is

[valid meteor]

Oh nononono

[polar crest]

In part 3, at least

[nocturne hamlet]

future villains fall inbetween the spectrum

[valid meteor]

Jotaro is awesome
He's just a cool motherfucker

[nocturne hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jojo-anime-gif-4921582

[wintry rampart]

The fights in part 1 are amazing

[red yew]

And Joseph is a crazy motherfucker who matures into the man in part 3

[polar crest]

Fights get better in later parts

Sjnce araki gets more experience

[nocturne hamlet]

Fights in part 1 are amazing
Laughs in Magnetism

[polar crest]

I feel like araki hit his magnum opus with stands and fights in part 5

[nocturne hamlet]

^ hard agree

[wintry rampart]

Magnetic leaves

[red yew]

It is a lot more tactical

[valid meteor]

Magnetism?
Oh you mean the big leaf Jonathan & Zeppeli made

Yah that's hype bro

[red yew]

7 pages of tactical

[nocturne hamlet]

HAMON LEAF GLIDER

[wintry rampart]

Dude, that was awesome

I was like

[polar crest]

Tarkus is

[wintry rampart]

Wtf is that!

[polar crest]

Really boring

And bruford is okay

[nocturne hamlet]

there's a lot of stuff in part 1 I think is bad, but I love.

Hamon Leaf Glider

[red yew]

Danny

[wintry rampart]

Tarkus is just shindeiru

[polar crest]

Im not saying part 1 is bad

Just boring

[wintry rampart]

Part 1 is a good bad

[polar crest]

It couldve used more "oomph"

[wintry rampart]

Part 3 is being boring

[red yew]

Part 2 delivered the oomph part 1 lacked though right?

[polar crest]

Part 3 is boring

But at keast we have polnareff

[wintry rampart]

Part 1 everything happens fast

[red yew]

In the anime

[polar crest]

Yeah

[red yew]

It cuts out some fights and research stuff Jonathan does

[polar crest]

The biggest problem for me in part 3 is how bland it is

The colors are so dry

[valid meteor]

Yeah

[polar crest]

Especially in the manga

[valid meteor]

What!

[wintry rampart]

Jonathan melts Tarkus with chain, it's like

[polar crest]

I gtg i have to take a spanish quiz

[red yew]

Ah good luck

[valid meteor]

You coward! Fucking Part 3 manga was not blandly coloured.!

[wintry rampart]

part 1 has more enemies in the manga?

[red yew]

Not exactly

[fallen cairn]

colors

[red yew]

There are more fights

[fallen cairn]

in the manga

problem with the part

babjrkt ngmdns

Abdbfjkgng

[valid meteor]

Ehhhh, no, but it does have one extrea fight between jojo and wang chan

[red yew]

Yeah that one

[fallen cairn]

shieusha and anime are not canon colors at all

there are non

e

for pallets

[wintry rampart]

But it was always in your face that Tarkus and burnford were random minibosses for some meme cliche fight

And it was funnier than expect

But 22 taro stand users?

[nocturne hamlet]

part 3 switches to villain of the week style

[valid meteor]

Tbh, this is when you have to either start liking jojo's unironically or get off the series

[wintry rampart]

That's what i did

But part 3 is not the same

[nocturne hamlet]

no part after 2 have similiarities

or well there's some

[wintry rampart]

Episode 7 for example is just bad as fuck

[nocturne hamlet]

but each part is almost a different genre from here on out

[polar crest]

Okay, im back for a bit

Until they start class

[wintry rampart]

I don't wanna see a little anime girl naked

[nocturne hamlet]

well that was supposed to weird you out

[polar crest]

Strength was that early on?

[wintry rampart]

I just wanna forget the episode

[polar crest]

I thought it was a bit earlier

Later*

Oof

[wintry rampart]

But it's not a good weird, it's just bad

[nocturne hamlet]

I mean you're supposed to think it's 'bad' that's why your seeing from the perspective of the villain

[polar crest]

Aight class is starting so i gtg again

[nocturne hamlet]

Seeya

[wintry rampart]

Nah i can't take the episode

The battle was boring and it wasn't even funny

[nocturne hamlet]

well I mean, if you don't like it I guess move on, there's a few part 3 eps I don't like myself either, tbh

[valid meteor]

wasn't even funny

[wintry rampart]

Meh

I move on, but the episode exist and i wanted to believe that part 3 is a masterpiece in general but itsn't cause some shit

So i gotta separate some parts of it

[nocturne hamlet]

part 3 is no masterpiece

ohhhh boi no,

[wintry rampart]

It's not that i didn't like that much an episode, is that i totally regret watching that episode

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

[nocturne hamlet]

every part, following 3, is basically a significant improvement on 3.

[wintry rampart]

I wish it was

[nocturne hamlet]

hell, the last half of part 3, is arguably an improvement on part 3

[wintry rampart]

Dio vs Jotaro is gold

[red yew]

Theres another fight in the second half that lasts 3 episodes and I wasn't bored in any of it

I'm on about the younger brother for no spoilers

[lone hatch]

the problem with part 3 is the fights are slow and boring
the humor and characters are good but that doesnt make up for it so much as balance it out just enough to make it bearable
at least until we get to around d'arby-ish, which is when the show becomes genuinely entertaining
too bad thats in like the last 20% of the whole damn part

[near star]

@lone hatch, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !

[red yew]

True

I did enjoy the brothers the most in the part

Both sets

Oingo bongo was brilliant

[lone hatch]

dio vs jotaro is still one of the best fights in anime but it doesnt really make up for the fact that stardust crusaders is boring and slow, especially pre-egypt
but its a nice reward for slogging through all the bad stuff
the ending of SC is quite satisfying

[red yew]

It is yeah with the fanfare and such

[near star]

@red yew, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[red yew]

And part 3 does introduce polnareff

Who is in my opinion given the best character arc

It's a shame it got wrapped up so early

[wintry rampart]

I want Kakyoin back

[robust birch]

Yare Yare Daze, Hey baby, i'm home

[vast ravine]

sup

want some ice?

[robust birch]

How do you say "yes" in japanese?

[vast ravine]

hay i think

let me check

Hai

[robust birch]

Hai

[vast ravine]

too bad

it's vanilla ice

[robust birch]

IGGY!1

[vast ravine]

r i p

[kind lichen]

Yo question what's up with dio Hermit purple

Like what is that

[burnt zodiac]

unclear what exactly is up with that

[glass ravine]

its thought to be jonathan's stand

[kind lichen]

wait what about holly

[burnt zodiac]

yeah, in jorge it's called "the passion" and it's jonathan's stand
but jorge is really fucking noncanon so it basically reveals nothing

[kind lichen]

Brah moments

[solid bane]

you could call it the passion, but it won't matter either way

[slow delta]

those cocker spaniel dogs iggy was with in his flashback could have been guys

[fallen cairn]

thonk

[spring cloak]

Kakyoin most likely died a virgin

[wintry rampart]

he was still a chad

[spring cloak]

He was a true gamer

😤😤😤😔😔

Mad respect

[light dragon]

I mean

He was 17

smh

[hexed lion]

Kakyoin had a shooting ability

True gamer

[light dragon]

Kakyoin's death is a metaphor for the opression of gamers in society

[wary tinsel]

^

araki is always ahead of the times

its why jojolion is still being released

[hexed lion]

Just picked up this bad boi

[hybrid hawk]

oooo nice

[livid fable]

Got part 3 done last night

Found it a little weird how jotaro tells some doctors to resurrect joseph with dio's blood and none of them even bat an eye lol

[red yew]

Jotaro is the kinda guy you dont question

[hazy basin]

speedwagon foundation

[cerulean arrow]

Kakyoin didn’t die a Virgin, he fucked holly before he left

[north silo]

Aight so I had a dream about Avdol last night

Thought I’d might share

Basically he kept dying at the hands of 2 future antagonists and I was really sad

Aight thanks

[fallen cairn]

[nocturne hamlet]

Arms out for Avdol

[wintry rampart]

I finished episode 12... so Polnareff's sister was just a made up back story for him? Now it doesn't matter anymore wow

And Avdol just died

So he was just some random made up character

And before that a conflict happens between them as if that was suppose to give him some character complexity so i can care for him when he dies?

And he kills the reflection guy, end of revenge...

And after that another silly stand user who kills random people... and defeated

[stable acorn]

Which one you talking about

Oh hanged man and emperor

Just hang in there...

[nocturne hamlet]

trust me, you're still in the set up for SDC

arguably you've just finished

it

[wintry rampart]

that's the "important" stuff of the first half?

I had enough

Fuck it, i think i'm gonna skip some episodes, who cares what happens between if that's the level of garbage

[fallen cairn]

what the hell

don’t skip it idiot

Polnareffs sister was not fake

@wintry rampart don’t skip episodes

[polar crest]

Even if its boring

[wintry rampart]

I didn't say it's fake idiot, just an arbitrary backstory that's what it looks like

[polar crest]

Don't skip

[fallen cairn]

don’t skip all of it is important

it’s also not arbitrary

how do you even come to these conclusions

all fights are important for character development and interaction

as well as presenting abilities

[wintry rampart]

I enjoyed part 1 and 2 since episode 1, i'm not enjoying part 3 at all

Nah

[polar crest]

Part 3 is more of a slow burn

But its still good

[wintry rampart]

Those fights are not important at all

[fallen cairn]

they are for development and interaction

[wintry rampart]

I could have skipped those for sure

[polar crest]

Except the one with the car

[fallen cairn]

stuff like this is why people cal jotaro boring

because they want to skip and gloss over shit

[wintry rampart]

There wasn't development or interaction on that episode where Joseph has that shit on his arm

[polar crest]

Jus

Don't skip

[fallen cairn]

don’t skip

[polar crest]

Even if its "boring" or "lame"

[fallen cairn]

if you skip you are going to miss callbacks and such

[polar crest]

Dont be dumb

[fallen cairn]

if you want to legit skip episodes just watch some other series

[wintry rampart]

I can read some resume or whatever

[fallen cairn]

LOL

why watch the part in the first place! If you’re just going to read a summary!

[wintry rampart]

Cause some episodes are useless

[polar crest]

Might as well do that with every oart too while youre at it

[wintry rampart]

And i don't wanna watch them

[polar crest]

Thats just too bad

Watch them anyway

[fallen cairn]

you’re watching the wrong series then

if you want to just read summaries and gloss over this shit

[wintry rampart]

What good there is in the episode where Joseph has that shit on his arm? Tell me

[polar crest]

Why do you keep bringing up those episodes in particular?

[wintry rampart]

Why not skip that episode for example?

[polar crest]

Just watch them

I watched every episode, even if i didnt like them

Not once did i skip

[wintry rampart]

The episode sucks and it's not important at all

[polar crest]

Didnt you say like part 1 and 2?

[fallen cairn]

comedy and watching the characters

[polar crest]

Wouldnt you want more Joseph

[wintry rampart]

I loved part 1 and 2

[fallen cairn]

yea

it’s joseph callbacks

more joseph

[polar crest]

Are you saying part 1 fights arent boring?

[wintry rampart]

@fallen cairn the episode wasn't funny, joseph saying oh no 5 times? Really?

[polar crest]

Why do you want to argue

Jist

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest the fights were lit

[polar crest]

Watch the episodes

[wintry rampart]

Hamon! Overdrive!!!!!

[fallen cairn]

yea

what else do i expect from someone with a kono dio da icon

[polar crest]

Oh damn youre right

[fallen cairn]

are you just waiting to get to the meme episodes

[wintry rampart]

@fallen cairnoh no!

Part 1 is meme gold at least

[polar crest]

Ehh

[wintry rampart]

Part 3 until isn't even funny

[fallen cairn]

bro part 1 has the most annoying memes

[polar crest]

Yeah

[fallen cairn]

this is the type of guy who laughs at kono dio da

[wintry rampart]

I disagree

[polar crest]

And speedwagon

[fallen cairn]

speedwaogngpsedqagon best waifu zdddxddd

[polar crest]

Speedwagon memes are dumb

I bet he laughs at thunder cross split attack too

[wintry rampart]

If you're the type of guy who laughs at those things in part 3 then...

[fallen cairn]

bro just

watch the show

[polar crest]

watch the episodes

[fallen cairn]

it’s still a good episode if it doesn’t have a meme in it

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest they are

@fallen cairn the episode is not good

[polar crest]

So?

[wintry rampart]

I'm sorry

[polar crest]

Just watch them anyways

[wintry rampart]

No, im not obligated

[fallen cairn]

you’re skipping episodes you haven’t even seen yet

because you’re just assuming that they’re bad

[polar crest]

What if you absolutely love one of them?

[fallen cairn]

you’re not obligated to watch the series in the first place

[polar crest]

But youre gonna skip it and never know

[wintry rampart]

I saw some and they are very bad

[fallen cairn]

like?

[wintry rampart]

Want a list?

[polar crest]

Yep

[near star]

@polar crest, Your Stand Power is now level 19 !

[fallen cairn]

well what makes an episode “good”

[polar crest]

A long one

[fallen cairn]

what makes an episode “good” rather than “bad”

[wintry rampart]

7, 8, 9, 12....

4

[polar crest]

Okay

And how many episodes are in SDC?

[wintry rampart]

48!!!!!!

[polar crest]

And out if those 48

There are a few good fights and arcs

But hey, you never watched them

[fallen cairn]

judge it yourself

[polar crest]

So you wouldnt know

[wintry rampart]

20 minutes of an episode that sucks, sucks

[fallen cairn]

ok but how do you know if they’re gonna suck of you haven’t watched them

[wintry rampart]

That's the point

[fallen cairn]

uh yea

so that’s why you should watch them

[wintry rampart]

I don't want to watch an episode that sucks to say tgat it sucks

[polar crest]

Listen, bro
Just watch the goddamned episodes

Don't skip

[fallen cairn]

but what if it’s an episode that’s good

why not watch one that’s good

you don’t even know

[polar crest]

Dont judge things you haven't seen yet either

Why dont you juat skip the entire oart while youre at it?

[wintry rampart]

Too much to bet

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

[fallen cairn]

holy shot

shit

why not just skip the whole damn part

[polar crest]

Jist go to part 4 then

Or

[wintry rampart]

Cause there are good things in the part

[polar crest]

An even better idea

[fallen cairn]

oh yea? like?

[polar crest]

Srop watching jojo

Its simple really

[wintry rampart]

Dio vs Jotaro, the egypt arc..

[fallen cairn]

but you haven’t even seen it yet

how do you know

[polar crest]

You havent even

Seen

Those episodes

Bruh

[wintry rampart]

Stop watching jojo? @polar crest lmao

[fallen cairn]

you haven’t even seen them

how do you know if they’re good or bad

[wintry rampart]

I saw dio vs jotaro yeah

[polar crest]

Okay

[fallen cairn]

what why

[polar crest]

Congrats

Youve finished SDC

NOW WATCH THE OTHER EPISODES

[fallen cairn]

but you didn’t see the Egypt arc

how do you know it’s good

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest yay

[polar crest]

[wintry rampart]

People say it's good, and the airplane excuse for these episodes it's just bullshit, and the egypt arc is suppose to be the main thing

[fallen cairn]

ok

well I say the episodes in the first part are good

so watch them

[wintry rampart]

The episodes i watched sucks

Not a good signal for sure

[fallen cairn]

why are you even going to watch the series if you are going to skip such a large proportion

[wintry rampart]

I told you already

[fallen cairn]

but why not make your own opinion on the episodes you haven’t seen

[wintry rampart]

...

[fallen cairn]

why is other people’s word on that the Egypt arc is worth watching any more valuable than people here

[wintry rampart]

You mean watch another episode that sucks? Sure why not

[fallen cairn]

if you find out it sucks it sucks but there are a lot of good ones

so watch another episode that’s good then because you literally have no idea what it’s going to be like

the next fights are better than the earlier ones

[wintry rampart]

I was hoping that episode 12 to be good

[fallen cairn]

from hanged man and hol horse on it gets better

[wintry rampart]

Guess what

I regret watching the episode

[fallen cairn]

as someone who said they loved part 2 I don’t see why you don’t like the fight

it was funny and had joseph callbacks

[wintry rampart]

Did you read what i said about the episode? @fallen cairn

Wasn't about the fight

What i'm pissed is the other episodes, not that one

[fallen cairn]

ok what’s wrong with those

[wintry rampart]

......

[fallen cairn]

devil, yellow temperance, strength

what makes them bad

[polar crest]

Okay

Dude

[wintry rampart]

Scroll up and read if you care so much about my opinion

[polar crest]

Why is this even an argument angmore

Just watch the episodes

[fallen cairn]

because you said it wasn’t “important”

[wintry rampart]

"Just watch it..."

[fallen cairn]

what does that even mean

that it wasn’t “important”

[wintry rampart]

@fallen cairn what are you talking about?

[fallen cairn]

you said you didn’t like those episodes because they were useless and unimportant

where did you say anything else

[wintry rampart]

Before @fallen cairn

Before you're messages

But the episode with Joseph is for sure

[fallen cairn]

yea that was about only the hanged man arc

which, is not arbitrary

[wintry rampart]

It looks like

[fallen cairn]

what makes something “useless” “arbitrary” and “unimportant” in jojo

[wintry rampart]

He just got his revenge and that's it

[fallen cairn]

character from the main cast dies

character extends their arc and develops more of an in depth character

[wintry rampart]

But if you say is gonna come back it's ok i believe you, my real problem is the other episodes

[polar crest]

@wintry rampart can you just form your opinion while you watch the episodes

[fallen cairn]

“arbitrary”

okay what’s wrong with them I don’t see any mentions of those

only that you listed them

[wintry rampart]

I mentioned the episodes

Episode 7, 9 and 12 for example is a waste of time tbh

[polar crest]

I have an idea for you

Watch the 1993 ova instead

[wintry rampart]

...

Nah

[polar crest]

It skips a lot of fights!

Youre already doing that arent you?

[wintry rampart]

I'm not following your idea thanks for caring

[polar crest]

Im gonna go to a different chat

This argument is pointless

[wintry rampart]

Cya

Whatching episodes that wasted my time is a bad argument?

[polar crest]

When did i say anything about your argument being bad?

I said it was pointless

Youre gonna skip anyway

[wintry rampart]

Pointless? Pointless are those episides

[polar crest]

Then skip them

[wintry rampart]

But i watched already

[polar crest]

Them start on part 4

[wintry rampart]

And it was very bad

[fallen cairn]

okay why watch 1 and 2

[polar crest]

Youve already seen the jotaro dio fight

[fallen cairn]

how are those useful

everything about them gets caught up in 3 at the start

they are just as useless and not worth watching if that’s your logic

[wintry rampart]

Episode 1 i enjoyed

[fallen cairn]

okay but it was useless because it all gets recalled at the start of 3 why watch it

[wintry rampart]

Maybe

But was enjoyable at least

[polar crest]

Ooh

[wintry rampart]

At least i did

[polar crest]

I know

Read the manga

[fallen cairn]

or just do that

[polar crest]

You can read at your own pace

[fallen cairn]

manga has better pacing and is faster and has better art

[polar crest]

And it wont waste time

[wintry rampart]

Is not the pace

[fallen cairn]

okay

why are those episodes of stardust crusaders “useless” except part 1 and a arent

by your definition they are

[polar crest]

I'm going back to class guys i gtg

[fallen cairn]

everything gets recalled at the start of 3

so why watch them

[wintry rampart]

The episodes i mentioned aren't just useless, they're not fun either, i didn't like watching at all

[fallen cairn]

what makes an episode fun

[wintry rampart]

Well, that can be subjective, i can tell that i didn't find it fun and that i didn't like it

[fallen cairn]

okkkkaayyyy

why didn’t you like it then

I don’t understand

[wintry rampart]

Which one?

[fallen cairn]

that you are judging all episodes based on a few

people have arcs they don’t like that doesn’t mean they just give up

[wintry rampart]

Cause i know is gonna be more of them

I'm pretty sure

I'm not giving up

I just don't wanna watch another similiar episide

Like episode 7 for example

[fallen cairn]

okay then don’t skip them

done

[wintry rampart]

....

Wow you solved my problem

Thank you so much

[north silo]

What in the hell happened here

Back and forth bickering about not watching SDC because of some episodes?

C’mon bruh

[wintry rampart]

Some episodes sucks

I could tottaly have skipped episode 7 for example and i woudn't miss a thing

So Avdol is not dead?

Ok then...

Cause if he actually died in episode 10 that would've been very lame

@north silo they act as if every single episode is needed to be watched and i disagree

[nocturne hamlet]

from what I've percieved, the issue has been with your claims of their being NO REASON to watch said episodes, and not necessarily that it is NECESARRY to watch all episodes.

[wintry rampart]

But there is really no reason watch those said episodes lmao

I would totally recommend to skip them but if you wanna watch those episodes anyway that's ok

[hollow schooner]

Great advice

[wintry rampart]

@north silo topman?

[north silo]

Hm?

Just watch the episodes

I don’t know what you want people to say or do

If you find it boring, just don’t watch JoJo

Simple as that

[nocturne hamlet]

I mean, its fine and dandy to talk about issues you have with something, give your opinion, but it's kinda lame to just complain here or something, in a discussion for an already aired anime, that you haven't watched completely

no one will take your opinions seriously until you've seen it all (For good reason) and it just kinda can be sorta, unconstructive to conversation.

[wintry rampart]

"Just don't watch Jojo" what a bullshit

[nocturne hamlet]

Dude really

you can WATCH JOJO YES EVEN IF YOU DISLIKE IT. But if watching jojo means constantly complaining about how much you don't like it it's just gonna get grating so people will suggest to stop watching as it would fix your complaints

[polar crest]

I found a lot of fights boring

But did I skip them?

No

[nocturne hamlet]

Same, part 3 is pretty low on my list of parts

[wintry rampart]

@nocturne hamlet i totally disagree with your argument that my opinion is invalid cause i didn't watch all of part 3, i didn't like some episodes and also think they shoudn't exist at all, and i have justification to think that

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

[hollow schooner]

I kinda want to see some part 3 stands remade

[nocturne hamlet]

Wow your opinion is fine, I'm telling you people will find it annoying, take the hint

[hollow schooner]

like wheel of fortune was a boring fight but if remade a bit I feel it could be really fun

[polar crest]

I'd like another fight like strength

[hollow schooner]

strength too

[stable acorn]

If you skip a single episode or part you’re dumb

[polar crest]

Where the entire boat is against the main cast

[hollow schooner]

shame that it ended so quick

[wintry rampart]

And who said i dislike jojo? What are you talking about?

[polar crest]

I don't remember anyone saying that

[stable acorn]

You’re not worthy of jojo if you skip

[near star]

@stable acorn, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[wintry rampart]

And no, stop watching don't solve a thing, i don't wanna stop watching

[polar crest]

Then continue to watch

Simple as that

[wintry rampart]

I will find a way to do that

[north silo]

“What a bullshit”

Wow my feelings, my opinion and my well-being

They have been damaged

[nocturne hamlet]

Okay, this is really stupid, I definitely remember very explicitly @wintry rampart saying that he 'doesn't want to watch boring/bad' episodes, and has seemingly taken offence when someone suggested that if he keeps finding it boring to stop watching it.

[wintry rampart]

@nocturne hamlet if i don't like an episode i will complain about the episode, simple, people can find annoying as well as i can find the episode not good

[north silo]

What kind of shit

I don’t get it

[polar crest]

Guys

This argument

Is pointless

[wintry rampart]

Pointless indeed

[north silo]

Glad you agree

[near star]

@north silo, Your Stand Power is now level 17 !

[north silo]

Anyway, as bland as Part 3 is, it still has its moments

[wintry rampart]

I know it does

[north silo]

I’m just saying in general

Stands were a new concept and were bound to be a bit funky to work with

[stable acorn]

Idk why so many people hate on part 3, it may not have been the best but the OPs were awesome and i loved the characters and (most) of the stand abilities

And i’ve seen people say that Stand Proud is a bad OP

[north silo]

Everything was pretty much straightened out with Part 4

[stable acorn]

like what

Also jotaro looks gay in part 4

[wintry rampart]

But some episodes i honestly think i shoudn't have watched, but for sure i wanna watch part 3 cause i believe it's good in general

[stable acorn]

Part 3 is the longest part in the anime

But every episode is worth watching

[wintry rampart]

Nah

[stable acorn]

I think SDC has the greatest meme potential too

Yah

[wintry rampart]

Episode 7 wasn't worth watching

[north silo]

For you it wasn’t

[stable acorn]

What happened in that one again

[wintry rampart]

A orangutan and a ship and gets defeated

[stable acorn]

Well actually

That’s a very important episode

[hollow schooner]

but strength is cool

[wintry rampart]

Why?

[stable acorn]

Because it reveals that not only (adult) humans can have stands

other living creatures can as well

[weary turret]

and that stands can be fuckin anything

[north silo]

adult

[stable acorn]

Yeah

That’s why i said adult

bc of the asshole baby

[hollow schooner]

And some later characters

[north silo]

Yeah

[wintry rampart]

Thst's not an excuse for a bad episode

[north silo]

Oh and a dog

[wintry rampart]

I get it, animal can have stands

[weary turret]

episode was fun it was a cool ghost ship mystery

[wintry rampart]

The episode still bad

[stable acorn]

Alright

[weary turret]

doesn't mean you can skip it and lose nothing

[stable acorn]

Why was it bad then

[north silo]

Also, might I say it’s funny that you watched Jotaro vs. Dio but don’t know about Avdol’s death

[wintry rampart]

I could have skipped actually

[stable acorn]

Lmao

[wintry rampart]

But it's too late

[stable acorn]

Answer my question

[north silo]

Avdol’s actual death

[weary turret]

it gets brought up like 3 more times in the thing too

[north silo]

Inb4 it’s still a shit episode I shouldn’t be forced to watch it grrrrr

[wintry rampart]

@stable acorn The orangutan doesn't have motivation, is just one more enemy that it's just defeated in one episode with ora ora ora, beating him doesn't help to get more close to dio or to solve a thing, they know from the start where dio is, the orangutan is just one more obstacle for the sake of an obstacle, i didn't find the fight against him interesting or memorable, they find out about the ship in one episode and in one episode Jotaro is enough to just defeat him. I also didn't find the episode funny or enjoyable, and they keep showing multiple times the little girl naked for behind as if she coudn't cover it. I say again, i could totally have skipped this episode

[stable acorn]

Well you may as well skip to the last few episodes of SDC then lmao if you find the obstacles ‘boring’

[wintry rampart]

The obstacles aren't necessary boring

But this one was

[stable acorn]

It was interesting because they didn’t even know it was a stand at first

It was a mystery and that makes it a good episode to me

[wintry rampart]

And they solve in one episode

Well, it had the potential to be a mystery i agree

[stable acorn]

And?

if every enemy stand took more 2+ episodes to solve/defeat part 3 would be eons long

[wintry rampart]

But it was just another fight with something

[stable acorn]

You can say that about literally anything

[wintry rampart]

The ship thing isn't even explored cause they did nothing that could been explored, it's a stand that it's a ship and that's about it

Maybe less stands and more interesting and explored idk

But i wish it was at least a funny episode

Personally i didn't find it and idk how someone could but if you find it that's ok, good for you

[stable acorn]

I thought it was pretty funny

The monkey was reading a damn playboy magazine lmao

[wintry rampart]

Yeah yeah, and the monkey is pedo too

[stable acorn]

Anyway stands get more creative as SDC goes on. Strength is one of the most boring stands I agree, so just keep watching

Yeah that too

[wintry rampart]

I hope it does

I found the reflection stand interesting

But the revenge was lame

[nocturne hamlet]

[wintry rampart]

so i read that Polnareff got his revenge quickly but the granny is gonna try to get revenge on him and he will still struggles with his sister's death. I saw people saying that it's good cause his character is not definied by it and that now he has new goals to go foward. I was worried that the revenge thing just ended there, but the story going this way can be very interesting i believe

[north silo]

That’s why you need to watch the episodes

If you don’t, there are going to be holes

[wintry rampart]

i didn't say it was a hole

i got worried cause i wasn't expecting that way, and some particular episodes i really dont need to like i said

[north silo]

what

Would you like to watch Part 3 or hear one-sided opinions from others who have

[cobalt lagoon]

@wintry rampart just don't bother watching the show tbh

if all you care about is what others say about it and not what you yourself see and think about it

[wintry rampart]

@cobalt lagoon Or just don't bother reading my messages tbh, that would be awesome, i don't base my opinions on what others say, people were saying part 1 is bad, i gave it a chance and i loved it, i'm saying that episodes of part 3 are bad caused i watched it, just cause i looked on the internet about the doubtful course that something got on the story, that doesn't mean anything you said

[cobalt lagoon]

I apologize for being dismissive and just outright rude in my message

[near star]

@cobalt lagoon, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

[cobalt lagoon]

should've been paying attention

but also
don't skip

[wintry rampart]

Sorry if i did that too but i don't wanna skip, i hope the episodes get better cause i didn't like the impression that those bad ones gave me to a point that i consider skipping a bunch, it's frustrating to dislike some episodes but i'm looking forward for good ones and still giving it a chance @cobalt lagoon

[cobalt lagoon]

awight

good to know

and i hope you enjoy goin through it

[livid fable]

i didn't really likethe D'arby brothers episodes but otherwise i really enjoyed part 3

i wouldn't recommend skipping a thing

[bronze loom]

what? the D'arby brothers were almost my favorite episodes of part 3

[wary tinsel]

first darby was better

[bronze loom]

yeah

[lone hatch]

bad fights of part 3: everything before geb
decent fights of part 3: geb and onwards excluding dio and pet shop
good fights of part 3: literally just dio and pet shop

[gilded herald]

yo

i'm halfway through this part

why do ppl love it so much? i feel like the main cast is much weaker (even getting a worse version of joseph)

not so much in terms of strength--even though they all do seem like pretty weak people now that everyone relies on stands--but like, character wise they dont seem...fully developed

jotaro has only just started to grow on me

but im like 28 episodes in

[cloud birch]

I always thought finding out the enemy Stand's ability was interesting, like every episode was a bit of a mystery, plus the last few episodes are awesome. (I won't spoil for you)

And yeah I wasn't big on Jotaro at first but he grows on you

[gilded herald]

i guess it is cool having more diverse enemies

i usually find their stands cooler than the users though

[weary turret]

a lot of SDC's relative unpopularity in the west is CR's shit subs

but it's also just not for everyone

[gilded herald]

damn should i not be watching Crunchyroll?

[weary turret]

only legal place to watch it

[gilded herald]

i know they dont use the band names all the time

[weary turret]

so if you care about that then yeah

[gilded herald]

well yeah but i've used different channels before for anime

is the sub a LOT different?

[weary turret]

yeah, i'd say so

i especially think they didn't do jotaro well

[cloud birch]

I watched SDC on Hulu

It was fine for me

[weary turret]

probably the same subs :v

[cloud birch]

maybe

[gilded herald]

i'm like hurrying through this to get to the next parts

[weary turret]

i can't recommend that

[cloud birch]

My advice is take your time

[weary turret]

just take it easy and enjoy the part

[cloud birch]

^^^

[gilded herald]

i really just wanna finish the anime and read the last 3 manga parts

[cloud birch]

If you blast through the episodes just so you can watch the next parts, you probably won't like it as much

[gilded herald]

i heard steel ball run and jojolion are great

[cloud birch]

it'll feel more like a chore

[weary turret]

they're all great

[wary tinsel]

enjoy it

dont rush it

just skip it if you dont want to watch it

dont watch it at 2x speed or do something else

nani, anime is for enjoyment?

[wintry rampart]

https://youtu.be/trggsoawUvY

Let the memories flood

[hazy basin]

What if DIO didn't just "He moved!" and attacked Jotaro?

[cerulean arrow]

I wanted to enjoy killing jotaro, sheesh

[wintry rampart]

The car stand, another hilarious, interesting, and very needed episode...

[light dragon]

Is that sarcastic? .-.

[hazy basin]

yes

[light dragon]

oof

[wintry rampart]

I'm excited to see what other unskippable episode i'm gonna watch next, cause it's all well put to build stardust crusaders essency

[polar crest]

Maybe you dont like them because you're only seeing the negative things about them

Sure, maybe the fight or episode didnt really click with you, but there are still things to appreciate

[wintry rampart]

Of course there is, the great things are very balanced with

[vast ravine]

i skipped nothing yet i loved every episodes

[wintry rampart]

And i loved every single episode for sure!

[polar crest]

Okay

I Dont condone skipping in the slightest

But if you hate them that much?

Just go to part 4 already dude

So we don't have to listen to your whining

[wintry rampart]

Wtf who is whining? And you don't have to listen a thing

[polar crest]

You've been arguing on how these episodes are good for a day or two, and you aren't really clos to finishing SDC, you say howkuch you dont like them and how boring and uninteresting they are, and when we try and tell you to not skip or that there are good episodes, you keep arguing that the same thing every time, and while I dont visit this chat often, some people do and just want to discuss this season and not want to see your long arguments and things of the sort

But yeah, just go to part 4 already

I'm sure youd like it more

It's not like you dont know how dio dies or the final fight between jotaro and dio

[wintry rampart]

You all just want to discuss the season yeah

[polar crest]

Have fun watching part 4

[wintry rampart]

You tell me to skip the entire part, i tell you to skip my messages then, since you don't enjoy what i say about the episodes, just skip it easy

[polar crest]

https://animedao.com/anime/jojos-bizarre-adventure-diamond-is-unbreakable/

The site looks a bit sketch at first

But it does work

@wintry rampart

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest cool

I had an idea on how to watch all the episodes of part 3

@polar crest

[polar crest]

Yeah? @wintry rampart

@wintry rampart

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest discover how

[polar crest]

I don't think i have enough iq for that

[wintry rampart]

I guess we're in a deadlock then

[polar crest]

L

[wintry rampart]

jotaro... punched.. a shark....

haaaahahahaahah

Ikr

[wintry rampart]

welp here's episode 7

how much of this show does Dio just spend staring at his own hot bod like a camwhore?

[weary turret]

dio is so good he just sits in his secret egyptian mansion in the middle of the city being all sexy in case joseph tries spying on him and hires the weirdest fuckin dudes to go kill the gang

[wintry rampart]

dio just was a few decades too early for his true careeer of youtube fitness vlogger

[weary turret]

god he was

he so completely and absolutely was

[wintry rampart]

okay yeah we didn't need this shower scene like, at all

[nocturne hamlet]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/816/968/452.gif

[wintry rampart]

dio-sama I MEAN uhm

Coming off of a later part I found this shot particularly interesting

like hmmmmm

oh thanks polnareff, so strong Stands CAN be seen by normal people, hmmmmm

[nocturne hamlet]

[wintry rampart]

like not to get into future part spoils but the contrast is particularly interesting

ep 7: dumb shit about creepy orangutans
also ep 7: have a bunch of Dio so you can't skip trololol

[hazy basin]

that episode just didn't need to exist

[nocturne hamlet]

lol

[wintry rampart]

@hazy basin finally someone who agrees with me

[vast ravine]

you're telling me the raping pedophile orangutan episode isn't the best episode of the travel arc?

[wintry rampart]

Omfg

[polar crest]

Yeah that arc was amazing

The way that monkey was lookin

He had curves

@wintry rampart i heard that was your favorite episode of jojo

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest i heard that was your favorite too

[polar crest]

Yep

Im glad ive found somekne who loves this arc as mich as i do

[vast ravine]

what happened to the orangutan then?

[polar crest]

Uh

[wintry rampart]

I see

[polar crest]

It raped @wintry rampart

[wintry rampart]

@polar crest

[polar crest]

I was there when it happened

[vast ravine]

shut it's still funny and it did happen

[wintry rampart]

You seem like the kind of person who would love that type of dumb episode indeed @polar crest

[polar crest]

I mean

[nocturne hamlet]

Whenever jojo gets Real dumb, I just love it more then anything

[polar crest]

My actual favorite episode is in part 5 so

But yeah this episode was funny

[vast ravine]

this episode made me understand that i was in for a real wild treat

[wintry rampart]

With dumb i meant stupid in a negative way

[polar crest]

Stupid episodes are fun too

[nocturne hamlet]

Part 2 is basically a string of stupid

[polar crest]

Yeah

[vast ravine]

why yes of course i can survive fighting an immortal being in a volcano in space

why do you ask?

[polar crest]

How is that dumber than a pedo monkey ?

[vast ravine]

i never said it was dumber

[polar crest]

No not yup

You*

@wintry rampart

[vast ravine]

oh

[polar crest]

Sorry

[vast ravine]

dw

[wintry rampart]

『Z A P E D O』

[hazy basin]

bruh

[stable acorn]

@wintry rampart the car stand is probably the shittiest stand out of any stand imo

its literally just a hyper off road car

[wintry rampart]

Yeah i saw

[polar crest]

Its better than some

Like, at least i can remember the car stand

I couldn't remember dark blue moon for the longest time

The water stand

[vast ravine]

water stand was a nice concept

[polar crest]

When i first started watching SDC i called it

It was before they got on the boat

Like

An episode or 2 before it

And i said
"Man i really want a swimming stand"

Or something among the lines

[stable acorn]

when you first started watching jojo

you mean first started watching SDC

[polar crest]

Yeah

Miswording
sorry

I dont skip parts

[stable acorn]

good

[polar crest]

Of course

I would never do something so abominible

[vast ravine]

i almost skipped to part 4

[near star]

@vast ravine, Your Stand Power is now level 15 !

[north silo]

How could you

[polar crest]

At least you didnt

[hazy basin]

Why does stands exist

[stable acorn]

Why does Hamon exist

[hazy basin]

why do i exist

[north silo]

Hamon died dummy

Hamon bad

[wintry rampart]

Yall be saying the wheel of fortune is useless untill u get into a crash accident

so when did you find out that dio was actually using his elbows to hammer the road roller

I thought that dio was just punching the read roller really fast because his stand covered his arms barely to the elbow and therefore couldnt boost his punch speed from what i remember

[stable acorn]

You mean the roadarollada

[wintry rampart]

To be frank, last train home gets me everytime

[chrome beacon]

Wait how old is polnareff in this part

[wintry rampart]

Like in his 20's

I think

[chrome beacon]

Wow he is. Younger than I thought.

[wintry rampart]

Yea

[light dragon]

He's indeed in his 20s

[wintry rampart]

Y’all know how Avdol died in the ova and went to another dimension right in the anime

Would he have had longer time to survive in that dimension in the ova? Or the anime?

Tag me what ya think

[lone elm]

He lost more limbs in the ova

[undone sinew]

Didn't he leave behind a hand and a foot in the ova rather than his arms

[wintry rampart]

Rest in RIP mum advol

[unique light]

Avdol is actually still alive in a parallel dimension

[somber lark]

I dont think so

I mean even if he lived he still lost his both arms he had to die from bleed out

[tawny lance]

Dio is best

[wintry rampart]

Iggy's stand could have been called Mr. Sandman.

[nocturne hamlet]

that would have been cool

[wintry rampart]

[stone terrace]

ok

[near star]

@stone terrace, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

[stone terrace]

right i need to debate

how in the fuck does ||the world do time stop||

like physically

[cerulean python]

It stops time for however many seconds and he can do shit while the time is stopped

[wintry rampart]

it just stops time

like time stands are born with just an ability to control time in a way

[chrome beacon]

Why didn’t they just book a flight

[worldly fjord]

Because Stand Users may kill innocents to get the Stardust Crusaders

[chrome beacon]

Yeah but like. Who cares.

Dio probably killed more than all the stand users they faced in those 50 days.

[light dragon]

They did book a flight though

And encountered Tower of Grey

[worldly fjord]

I miss Kakyoin :(

I wish he was alive post Part 3

[wintry rampart]

Dude I wish he was in later parts

Like part4

And so on

[bronze loom]

would be cool, i liked kakyoin a lot

[wintry rampart]

i wonder what would change if avdol lived

[chrome beacon]

Yeah but like. They had a million more chances to just book a flight.

[wintry rampart]

^

[weary turret]

yeah they tried that too

then they crashed the plane

and had to walk from there

[livid fable]

i keep wondering how dio recruited that baby

i'm imagining him sneaking into his house at night, being persuasive and getting no response

[karmic fiber]

remember when part 3 broke the 4th wall

[weary turret]

you mean the end of part 3, where ZZ replaces Jotaro Kujo as the main character?

[spring cloak]

No when jotaro goes "you can't kill me- I'm the main character. If I die who will replace me?"

And he then proceeds to beat the shit out of his opponent

[weary turret]

that never happens. don't lie to me

[spring cloak]

It's in the car arc

Where the guy's stand is a car

[north silo]

The one where he burns his jacket? Yeah that was pretty good

[wintry rampart]

No

[light dragon]

Then which car stand arc, though?

[wintry rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KUSyRHhkLc - lol

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[wintry rampart]

so okay yeah I'm now fully convinced that all speeches are events outside of space time

[trail frigate]

Yare yare.

You truly are the lowest scum in history.

You guys can't owe me with another ping- ORA! ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA OOOOOOOOOORAAA!

[worldly fjord]

who was the emperor again?

[light dragon]

Hol Horse's stand

A gun stand

[trail frigate]

hol horse truly the 2nd strongest character

[nocturne hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/547165372311142457/605534413513555969/Amagi_plays_sports.gif

[hazy basin]

who @trail frigate

[trail frigate]

You absolute.

little

piece of hamon

[hazy basin]

yes?

[near star]

@hazy basin, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[trail frigate]

ur name is cursed aswell

[wintry rampart]

yeehaw

[wintry rampart]

i skipped part 3

so,,

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neat fjord]

I finished watching part 3 a few days ago

Joseph is an absolute mad lad

[worldly fjord]

[whole kelp]

This isn't as bad as part 1
but it still sucks

[wintry rampart]

This is random but dio can stop time and only "give premission to move in stopped time" to selected things so he can throw a knife that will actually fly instead of stopping as soon as it loses contact with dio imo

[brittle violet]

I assumed holding the knifes he just threw them with enough force that it pushed them until they'd stop, the same way you can push anything during the stopped time

Like I'm confident he wouldn't be able to ride a horse or drive a car during stopped time because he chooses to

[wintry rampart]

Im wondering how long it took dio to master this skill so he can throw knives that stop inches before enemy

Expectially with few at once

[light dragon]

Well, if JoJo wiki has it right, Dio's coffin was discovered in 1983, SC is in late 80s

[brittle violet]

would Dio just have been stuck in the coffin for as long as nobody would had found it?

[light dragon]

Maybe

Maybe Dio can't swim?

[hardy plaza]

lmao, imagine that

[light dragon]

Idk

[brittle violet]

I imagine him now acting like he did when Jotaro hit The World in the leg but he's underwater and his voice is being drowned in it

[light dragon]

NAAAAAAANIIIII

KONO DIO DAAAAAAAAAAA

[wraith burrow]

XDDD

R o B l O x

[burnt zodiac]

@wraith burrow Please put memes and edits in the proper channel (in this case, #manga-jojokes )

[wraith burrow]

oh

okay, i thought i could sent it because its stardust crusaders

[solid bane]

they should add that to the rules

keep memes in #manga-jojokes

[light dragon]

Can we talk about this

[neon lily]

Ahh yes

[wraith burrow]

how did he do that

XDS

[weary turret]

[9:10 AM] KINGU KURIMUZON: Maybe [9:11 AM] KINGU KURIMUZON: Maybe Dio can't swim?
i completely forgot that it's real vampire lore that vampires can't swim

[summer pond]

Just like them video game characters

[neat fjord]

XD

[wintry rampart]

Anyone who uploads to YouTube, I have a request.

PLEASE, could you upload a 2-3 second clip of kakyoin taking off his glasses, I can't find a shortened version. If you do, could you send it to me?

[magic reef]

yeah alright that'll be about £500

[lone hatch]

why does shit like wheel of fortune and empress and devo exist
these fights fucking suck dude

[wintry rampart]

They need more episodes

[light dragon]

Well, I liked seeing Joseph being a clever badass again

[near star]

@light dragon, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

[light dragon]

Really, it wasn't too hard for me to see Part 2 Joseph in Part 3 Joseph upon my first watch of SC

[wintry rampart]

Yeah...

[light dragon]

I still felt it was the same guy

[signal hemlock]

So I started watching Jojo a few days ago

[wintry rampart]

I want my EMPEROR

[signal hemlock]

On e3 of Stardust rn

[wintry rampart]

And it was good

Oh shit

[light dragon]

But it would be nice if we've got young Joseph saying "ooohhh nooo" before to strenghthen that connection with his older self

At least, I don't remember if we ever heard him say it

[wintry rampart]

@signal hemlock what ep are you on right now?

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

[wintry rampart]

I did it

[signal hemlock]

Episode 3

[wintry rampart]

I finally got the emperor

Oh season 1?

[signal hemlock]

Season 2

Stardust Crusaders

[wintry rampart]

So you're on ep 3 season 2?

[lone hatch]

he’s on the first season of SC and that’s the second overall season

[wintry rampart]

Ok I see

Anyways I have finally obtained the emperor

[signal hemlock]

Dio is such a pussy

Sending assassins and stopping time

He was way more badass in Part 1

And that was my least favorite part thus far

I hated Dio so much in Part 1. He was a perfect villain against Johnathan Joestar, but he was extremely spiteful.

[near star]

@signal hemlock, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[signal hemlock]

After seeing Kars, I appreciate him more

At least Dio has charisma, and is far more memorable than Kars

[wintry rampart]

Part 3 dio could have easily killed jotaro but plot

[odd sierra]

eh more dio's personality is what fucked him

[wintry rampart]

He was just toying with jotaro

[odd sierra]

he gloats and praises himself at every opportunity and wastes all his moments to kill jotaro

and that's something he would honestly do lmao

[wintry rampart]

Like the moment he saw jotaro he could have just killed him but his dio so no

"all characters have my exact personality and would make the exact same decisions as me"

• the jojo fandom

[tribal badge]

I feel like Joseph's fake out death was lame

What if he actually died

That honestly would have been alot more sadder but hey it's still sad to watch the airport scene

[signal hemlock]

It would have been repetitive

Johnathan died

Joseph dies next?

[tribal badge]

Honestly it would have been more sadder for me personally

[near star]

@tribal badge, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[tribal badge]

Thank

[wintry rampart]

@wintry rampart nah it doesn't have to be on yt

[signal hemlock]

Jojo has taken over my life and I don't know how to feel

[spring cloak]

^

Same

[wispy sleet]

I've been in JoJo hell for like 2.5+ years.

[near star]

@wispy sleet, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

[chrome beacon]

I’ve been in it for a month and dear god

My life was over the moment I watched Dio the Invader

[light dragon]

I've been into JoJo for 5 months by now

And what amazing 5 months they've been so far

[nocturne hamlet]

Sometimes I forget how awesome SDC anime can look

[light dragon]

I think SDC's art is great

At the least, I still felt used to it while watching subsequent parts

[signal hemlock]

I've been in Jojo hell for a week'

5 months ago, I saw it as just some overrated shonen anime that was good for memes

Now I've watched it and I have understood the error of my ways

[nocturne hamlet]

[gloomy mirage]

YES YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE I AM

[hazy basin]

pls no

[lone hatch]

finished rewatching the first half of this part, dubbed this time around
tbh jotaro and joseph sound pretty good but kyle hebert's kakyoin just sounds exactly like his gohan from dragon ball z so it was hard to shake that vibe off of his voice
his kakyoin also doesnt contrast enough with jotaro imo so even tho they're different enough to tell apart, it sounds a bit weird
polnareff is fine, just fine
but avdol sounds really dumb in the dub
not a fan of dub avdol at all

but id say the dub for part 3 is passable

overalll

[gloomy mirage]

wow

just in time for the yes you'd better believe i am

bruh this part is broken

literally

[lone hatch]

yea, that line change sounded pretty bad

the hail2u and hell2u sounded pretty bad too