Enya's Stand?
#stardust-crusaders
rocky swallow
rocky swallow
Judgement
worldly breach
celest violet
It’s good
old geode
Why does judgement keep saying "Hail to You"? also why did Death 13 keep repeating "Lolli-Ho"?
Did it make more sense in Japanese or was that just some quirky thing that the mangaka chose to add for the sake of it
old geode
Yeah, I watch the dub mainly
near starBOT
@old geode, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !
old geode
Their catch phrases aren't bad, but it just made me wonder why they keep saying them
magic reef
stop watching the dub now
old geode
It's pretty good though!
magic reef
you can't put any images, references or anything for later parts in earlier part chats
old geode
My bad, I was trying to be funny. Sorry anyone who saw that
magic reef
nah it's chill at least now you know
old geode
As I was saying though, the dub is actually pretty good. I especially like Kakuin and Joseph's voice actors
old geode
He is really good, I think that's the voice of Bobobo from Bobobo Bo-Bobobo
Either way, I've still got a lot of episodes left
Only on episode 3 or the Egypt arc
magic reef
glad you're enjoying it
just fyi, part 3 is my least favourite part
so you've got a hell of a lot more to look forward to
old geode
magic reef
part ranking in case you care: 7>5=6>4=8>2>1>3
wintry rampart
"kinda bs sometimes" yeah that happens a bit
celest violet
Part rankings for me are
2>3>1
wintry rampart
^
tough cradle
for me its 5>2>3>4=1 so far
i guess i'm a rare case where i actually don't like part 4 as much as the others.
i'll always remember part 3 as the one where they introduced stands for the first time, but had a bit too much fun throwing a lot of filler stand fights and kind of underusing some of the main characters.
near starBOT
@tough cradle, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
wintry rampart
from talking to most people who are far into jojo
quite a lot of people have 1,2,3 in the bottom 3
and 7,4 in the top 3
5/6 are up there sometimes as well but I see that less often
weary turret
Why does judgement keep saying "Hail to You"? also why did Death 13 keep repeating "Lolli-Ho"?
yeah it's just a bit of weirdness for the hell of it, but lali-ho is either a reference to Dragon Quest, or a reference to Final Fantasy (which was also a reference to Dragon Quest)
tough cradle
seems pretty common in japanese media from what i can tell, where characters often have a verbal tic added to them
weary turret
ye in anime characters can talk absolutely ridiculously and get away with it
wide jay
Jotaro Poojo
celest violet
Gamer Kakyoin
north silo
Gamer Kakyoin is best character in all anime
wintry rampart
🍩
tough cradle
remember when Hierophant Green could be used to control people like a puppet?
valid meteor
I remember when Hierophant Green was used to control death 13 like a puppet that was p cool
wise hatch
His problem is that he uses his A range stand like a close range one
He only remotely uses it like 3 times
tough cradle
tbf he probably has to considering everyone simply deflected the emerald splash 
north silo
Nobody can block the Emerald Spl- yes they can, ya dimwit
chilly fractal
i wouldn't say that
that clock tower kakyoin hit seemed pretty broken
not to mention the water tower caught in the cross fire
magic reef
it's kinda quirky tho
magic reef
the song is straight fire though
wintry rampart
maybe the studio had extra budget to waste. sometimes animes do that. Like kaguya sama love is war made a 2nd OP that was really good and I think they used it for 1 epsiode 
safe gazelle
Because their art style was too unique to only be used in the limited amount of times Thoth is used
That's my guess
He's a man with standards
full hill
@whole steeple he's considered British-American by part 3 because he spent most of his life in the US and is most likely a US citizen
frail saffron
Yep
The cola salesman also says that Joseph just moved there if I remember correctly
safe gazelle
Yeah, I remember now
whole steeple
Oh yeah now that you mention it
safe gazelle
It's never really talked about so I just assumed
frail saffron
Why would you assume that
whole steeple
No wait hed have to be born in britain cause of the whole George II death part
Nvm I realised my mistake
frail saffron
That too
burnt zodiac
yeah i assumed the same but no
full hill
(technically it starts in mexico)
burnt zodiac
technically part 2 starts in japan since thats where araki wrote it
safe gazelle
Mexico is in North America
burnt zodiac
(citation needed)
full hill
in the English language America tends to refer to the United States of America, rather than the continent of the Americas, which is most often pluralized in order to avoid confusion
burnt zodiac
sorry i was Citation Needed-ing myself lol
full hill
also if you wanna be ultra technical
burnt zodiac
yeah but on the other hand in the US we consider the Americas two continents
full hill
paper was invented in China
burnt zodiac
at least among people who grew up here
safe gazelle
Part 2 starts somewhere in the northern hemisphere
full hill
if you say America in English it's assumed you mean the USA
wintry rampart
50% of stand proud is english words its funny
burnt zodiac
hokori no bullet
charred cobalt
I never knew anne didnt have a name in the manga
So uh yeah
Ummm
How did nena hide in a woman
Was that ever explained
Like uhhh
How does that work
Nena's the one that had Empress as a stand
valid meteor
Uhhhhhhh
Got me there fam
It's never actually explained
And I can't headcanon a theory of it because it has nothing to do with her stand power either soooooo yeah
vernal steppe
Maybe the answer is in the words to the song Nena's name references
But I'm totally guessing
Sometimes when mad shizzle happens it's just there as a music reference
wintry rampart
i hate some of the decisions araki makes
they just killed off kakyoin in an early fight and left him out of comission for a majority of the story, a character with a stand that could've been used to so much extent
same thing happened to avdol
amazing characters that could've had so much more to them just thrown to the side like that
they brought them back just to kill them
unique hamlet
Jotaro: protecting the youth from needless violence
hybrid hawk
i still wonder what the point of this little girls character was
like..i dont understand what her purpose was
wintry rampart
lol
keen dagger
F
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L
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bold cave
Jotaro is asian
north silo
He have long pant
celest violet
ARAKI PROBABLY FORGOT
hybrid hawk
wtf
weary turret
she was gonna be their pal but editors said no
celest violet
Why did they do that?
celest violet
Oh no
vernal steppe
You say Kakyoin had so much potential but this happens all over the series
There are so many character and their Stands where you feel like you haven't seen enough of them
unkempt summit
(Already said before, I know)
Holly: Hey, where's Avdol?
Joseph:
Jotaro:
celest violet
Where’s that Kakyoin kid?
unkempt summit
Joseph and Jotaro: * visibly sweating *
spark narwhal
https://youtu.be/mEOIvaX9giE just found this, idk where to put it
solid bane
i was just listening to this
solid bane
🤛
spark narwhal
nice
daring vine
kakyoin is hella ugly in the manga like w ut
storm grove
Silver Chariot vs Tower of Gray?
spark narwhal
chariot probs win
storm grove
Star Platinum caught up with Silver Chariot but not Tower of Gray
afair
spark narwhal
power levels in jojo are just, almost impossible to predict
storm grove
almost
spark narwhal
ye
storm grove
are you really gonna dismiss it? it's more fun to talk about it
magic reef
not when it's tower of gray
spark narwhal
its speed vs speed
near starBOT
@spark narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 17 !
magic reef
silver chariot with armour, maybe tower of gray wins
storm grove
would you rather talk about The World vs Star Platinum or something 😂
magic reef
😂
charred cobalt
So funny
storm grove
i was thinking similarly
they would probably be matched if Silver Chariot had no armor
magic reef
Silver chariot with no armour has enough speed to create soild after images
tower of grey has zero chance
storm grove
ah, then it's not even a question
spark narwhal
kinda sad that polnareff just didnt use his stand without armor that much
wintry rampart
obviously the world wins.
magic reef
what if the tower of grey stops time
spark narwhal
:o
charred cobalt
The World vs Star Platinum is a big reason why Stands cant be put in a fight based off of stats
magic reef
:o)
spark narwhal
isnt the world weaker in stats?
charred cobalt
Stardust goes to great lengths to show The World is literally just an upgrade to Star Platinum
And yet Star Platinum wins due to the situational fight they had
storm grove
well we're not going off stats alone
spark narwhal
i mean jojo stand stats are just...
storm grove
yeah
magic reef
technically the world is weaker in stats
star plat is all As
the world has a B in something
spark narwhal
ye
north silo
I wonder if there’s a common trope that the protagonists of JJBA all have close range powers
wintry rampart
can't really say here.
magic reef
if only there was some way I could find out 😔
wintry rampart
I'm sure someone will tell you in #jojo-anime-discussion some day
but you have to get lucky and be there at the right time
spark narwhal
what
magic reef
😳 oh gee willikers mister that sure does sound swell!!
storm grove
@supple warren @solid bane http://prntscr.com/nqo9m0 http://prntscr.com/nqoacb it was Gin no Twist, it plays at the end of episode 5 (the end which is part 1 of Dark Blue Moon)
solid bane
yeah if you scroll down long enough you see me and someone else mention that as well
supple warren
storm grove
i ain't sein it
solid bane
woeful echo
yo can i just say how fucking broken emperor is
like theres 0 fucking reaosn hol horse is so reliant on people
you literally have a fucking gun that has unlimited ammo and you can manipulate everyb ullet freely
like wtf
solid bane
he's a dumbass that's why he relies
storm grove
@woeful echo because he doesn't like to be the number one
unique hamlet
LOL
near starBOT
@unique hamlet, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
unique hamlet
the classic Joseph strategy
charred cobalt
How did Jotaro understand DIO if he's Japanese
junior garnet
Headcanon:
When Dio put on the mask and unlocked his brain's potential, he learned every human language
wintry rampart
maybe Jotaro was reading subs
storm grove
what a shit totally good headcanon lol
manic ledge
headcanon: he found some books that teach Japanese and read them
and a better idea: the vampirism gives him a better memory than a person
which i think is a lot more reasonable
wintry rampart
Or just everyone is speaking Japanese
wintry rampart
remember when Dio didn't know what an automobile was
wintry rampart
I thought he was admiring it and remember how he didn't live with those
storm grove
insert pooh meme
unique hamlet
everyone is speaking Japanese except for Joseph, who refuses to out of spite
storm grove
except he is
he refuses to use Holly's japanese name Seiko
i actually agree with that
near starBOT
@storm grove, Your Stand Power is now level 17 !
unique hamlet
he's actually speaking an obscure Northern English dialect
wintry rampart
In Egypt, everyone speaks Japanese
unique hamlet
it's easily misunderstood as Japanese
storm grove
well i agree with many things Joseph does in Holly's house except for the coffee thing
fuck, man
i wish we had more ___
i mean uh... yeah.
manic ledge
what
storm grove
no spoilers
manic ledge
saying that wasn't a spoiler tho
storm grove
kinda was
manic ledge
not... really?
storm grove
it's confirming
manic ledge
it's not confirming anything though
wintry rampart
I wonder how awkward Joseph and Avdol feel
manic ledge
i mean in context, that message looked like you were asking for more of them in this part
which yeah works, fucker barely does anything
wintry rampart
After the Bastet fight
manic ledge
lol
wintry rampart
Very true
manic ledge
you think they weren't already doing that behind the scenes
storm grove
i do
manic ledge
honestly all that did to them was probably give them a public fetis
wintry rampart
But at the same time. You would feel weird having your friend hit you from behind
storm grove
eh
manic ledge
this message has been cut off by the FBI
wintry rampart
Especially how Mariah stuffs her nuts and bolts
wintry rampart
And how Joseph is just suffering from all of this
storm grove
jokes aside it was for real though
i don't like fanservice all i can do is laugh cuz it's hilarious
but that really was played for laughs in the context of the story
next birch
10/10 art
weary turret
no one in SDC understands each other DIO included
everyone's just really really good at context clues
unique hamlet
sonic estuary
BRUh
wise hatch
Remember when Stand users could make there stands temporarily invisible in SDC
weary turret
no?
weary turret
it was a long-distance attack...
wise hatch
OOHH
weary turret
it could have been any sort of attack we don't know
wise hatch
I’ve always wondered wtf that was
weary turret
but Emerald Splash makes the most sense
manic ledge
was about to say that, yeah
weary turret
ye
manic ledge
yeah*
wise hatch
Aight nvm then
manic ledge
owned
wise hatch
*pwned
wheat gazelle
🅱 wned
wise hatch
🕋wned
wheat gazelle
....?
manic ledge
kaabawned
kindred garden
It is, horry shiet
weary turret
ep 2, that's when jotaro noms HG out of the school nurse
weary turret
im araki
sonic estuary
Anyone remember this tire fire?
wise hatch
Why is sonic there
manic ledge
jouta is supposed to be jotaro amd kakyoin's son, why does he look literally exactly like jotaro and just some resemblance to kak
well, besides art style same face
weary turret
same reason i look just like my mom i guess
blond pol is good
better than disaster brown hair kakyoin
ok
manic ledge
kakyoin is the mom tho
if anything he should look like kak and have the stand similarity to jot's
weary turret
not quite how genetics work :v
actually upon second thought maybe genetics in CLAMP in Wonderland isn't something i should argue
manic ledge
^^^
frank orchid
so why is the anime so long compared to the manga
part 4 is longer than part 5 length wise in the manga
*part 3
frank orchid
did they add extra stuff or was the dialogue making it longer
in the part 5 anime fights can last up to 3 episodes
tepid shard
Because the fights needed to be 2 episodes with the exception of The Sun.
I don't know exactly what is making them longer.
And they can.
Just like the final two fights in Part 3.
But by then, DavidPro has their shit together.
frank orchid
i havent seen it in a while
well
who was that character who was killed immediatly
avdol like smashed a wall
tepid shard
He was turned to nothing by Cream.
frank orchid
no
tepid shard
Avdol has no body to recover.
frank orchid
im not asking who dies
when avdol enters the castle
he smashes a wall
and kills an enemy immediatly
fluid spear
Reading the manga of this is much more enjoyable imo. That’s what I’m doing now instead of watching the anime
celest violet
manic ledge
araki on why dio had a hermit purple-like stand
vernal steppe
I think the second arc turned out that long just so it would be about as long as the first arc
wintry rampart
"joatrO YoIuR StAnD dISAapeaRs iF YoY DoNt BreAtH"
vernal steppe
"Jotaro Goes Underwater"
weary turret
What's that? I can't hear you. We're underwater, so speak up!
-jotaro kujo
chilly fractal
magic reef
#cringe
viscid quartz
old geode
Oingo Boingo's Bizzare Adventure
Predicting the future after a guy gives you donuts
This small psychic child is terribly evil
weary turret
he's good
old geode
COOOOLLAAA?!?!?
I love how he said that
The way these brothers talk so loudly about poisoning someone
Lil bro: this man is ugly, like really ugly, good damn he's so ugly, we should Rob him. I predict were gonna beat him up and Rob him
Big bro: nice
weary turret
oingo and boingo were so good
old geode
Lil bro seeing Jotaro blow up in his book
Lil bro seeing his brother disguised as Jotaro
manic ledge
lil bro after his brother tells him to be strong
weary turret
jotaro be like
old geode
Is this entire episode just Tom & Jerry with stands
solid bane
This thread be like
old geode
When you clasp your hands which thumb is on top
Mine is the left thumb
I think araki just made that up to mess with us
weary turret
i think it's just polnareff and believing weird crap he hears
weary turret
hm.
old geode
Polnareff must think that Jotaro took a dump and ran his legs off to get to the hospital
The ED for this episode is in the art style of the oingo Boingo book. I love it
magic reef
I can attest to it being an actual thing
delicate magnet
i'm half way though stardust crusaders
weary turret
nice
ocean swallow
hope u enjoy
wise hatch
Yup u got a hell of a ride ahead of u
wintry rampart
The 20 meter emerald splash fight is the best fight scene in the anime so far
Its so well done and the song fits it so well
solid bane
would you call it a fight scene if it was clearly one sided
burnt zodiac
yeah i would
worthy cedar
how yall mf's look thinking jotaro best jojo lol
solid bane
this how yall mfs look in general
weary turret
jotaro is better than everyone
worthy cedar
polnareff^
magic reef
^
weary turret
polnareff's up there too
charred cobalt
How yall mothefuckers look liking jojo
wintry rampart
joesph is better than jotaro but every othet jojo is better than jonathan
also true
jojo is gay
wheat gazelle
That jojo is big gay but other jojo is small gai but those jojos are the biggest gays
ocean swallow
lmao
unique hamlet
HAMON RETURNS
magic reef
Hamon is kinda quirky 😳
silk elm
so i just remembered something from SDC
when dio throws his knives too jotaro so he can nullify the effects of him being able to move during the stopped time
couldn't jotaro had just, fall?
it seems he could flip a switch that would allow him to move while the world is active for 2 seconds, if he flipped that, and fell far enough for those two seconds where he would be out of the knives range, he would be okay, right?
solid bane
time was frozen so gravity stopped
silk elm
oh
solid bane
which explains the flight (not in the anime)
silk elm
lol the flight is just as crazy as one second lasting 15 minutes in the anime
although it's too be expected
since adapting manga to anime is pretty hard to do while still making the show watchable
it's a common trope anyways
supple warren
well, you can see that star platinum is actually jumping
and when they're flying across the street, they keep punching the wall to travel further
it's easier to see in the anime cuz you know, still shots
solid bane
yes star platinum is yoshi flying while they talk
silk elm
that's hard to believe jammal because realistic physics says something like "oh yeah they're definitely flying"
The way they move and how they stay in mid air is pretty bizarre too cal it jumping
supple warren
that's just anime bullshit like you said
but they don't fly at all
well, at least jotaro doesn't
silk elm
Unless you pull a bnha and they kick wind pressure from underneath from pure strength
supple warren
dio does some bizarre floating
supple warren
solid bane
"Oh? seems like your star platinum is about as strong as The World"
Meanwhile Star Platinum
supple warren
pretty much
silk elm
the time thing they do where 1 second isn't properly translated reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/MkAftrj9QyQ?t=1582
supple warren
jotaro doing the motion before he jumps
solid bane
it's that every dialogue/thought/action takes a scene
if they went with accurate seconds you'd hear them all together
silk elm
pretty much
worthy cedar
@next birch #manga-jojokes
old geode
Jotaro throws one punch
Anubis: HA HA STAR PLATINUM, I KNOW ALL YOUR MOVES
worthy cedar
anubis was a gag stand either way
old geode
This entire battle reminded me of the fact that no one else can see stands. All of the bystanders watching this brawl just see two Japanese guys standing dramatically and yelling at each other while random cuts appear on their bodies
They can see the Anubis sword, but it must look even crazier seeing a floating sword flying around the placd
wintry rampart
Oh my gooooot!!!
old geode
He just blew up. The sword just blew up. The stand just blew up
Anubis: I've got you now Jotaro!!!
Stab
Charlie Brown: Good Grief
Punches sword until it explodes
How fast did this child throw the sword?
_
Anubis went from being such a scary stand that can memorize attacks and phase through objects
To a sad little knife that has to be fish to pay attention to it.
Talk about tonal whiplash
wintry rampart
that ep and other automatic stands make no sense to me
how can ur mental energy live on after you die?
burnt zodiac
some stands are just weird for seemingly no reason
wintry rampart
yeah
vernal steppe
How can your mental energy live on after you die, how can vampires and and pillar men exist
It's just one of the premises you accept to watch the show
wise hatch
Oh trust me if ur on p3 ur gonna see a lot weirder stands later on
magic reef
Part 3 is boring and mundane in comparison
celest violet
There is a Part 7?
wintry rampart
maybe
shadow bramble
We may never know
old geode
Where are Kakyoin's parents. He's in this hospital, in a whole nother country, blinded by a stranger he was fighting. Wouldn't his mom and dad be worried.
I get that Polnareff and Avdol are grown men with their own lives, and Jotaro is under special circumstances, but Kakyoin's just some highschooler
Isn't anyone worried about his safety?
celest violet
They were in Japan and they were very worried
old geode
Oh thank goodness.
Joseph Joestar making a fool of himself again. Trying to play it off like an escalator inspection.
I love this man so much
Like a fine cheese, he gets moldier with age
Joseph has Avdol peeking into women's bathroom stalls. These two are such a pair of knuckleheads
wintry rampart
avdol is hands down one of the best crusaders at least for me
weary turret
ah yeah kakyoin's parents were mentioned a bit more in the manga
junior garnet
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pol is a Princess Bride reference
weary turret
they don't know where kakyoin is, you see
junior garnet
Wasn't that in the Jojonium release?
So it isn't really fair game to talk about it not being in the anime
weary turret
wasn't it in the tankobons?
old geode
Avdol and Joseph, two guys stuck together. 5 micrometers apart cause they're magnetized
This entire magnetism stand is bringing out the stupid in the both of them
They literally got tied to railroad tracks, with a train quickly approaching
Is this an old cartoon?
old geode
Oh dang, the 80's. I thought the manga was made in the 2000s.
magic reef
part 1 was released in 1981
I believe
I stand corrected it was 1987
so that would make part 3 1991ish
my bad
nevermind I actually decided to google it
part 3 was 1989-1992
old geode
That's pretty cool, I like how well this has aged
They're facing Mariah, a magnrtic stand user. How is it that not a single person in this episode made a joke about having a magnetic personality
weary turret
because they don't speak english
old geode
Oh wait, that makes sense
next chasm
SC but every time dio is said, it speeds up by 15%
burnt zodiac
i would watch it
charred cobalt
I wouldnt
wintry rampart
SC but everytime a one-off villain appears and dissapears within an episode without being relevant it speeds up by 10%
SC but everytime a situation is solved by Star Platinum being a dues ex machina it speeds up by 10%
burnt zodiac
a ha, jokes on you, every fight is at least two episodes
(ugh was that really necessary)
wintry rampart
Are you speaking to yourself or to me
burnt zodiac
im complaining that every fight i can think of in the SC anime is 2 episodes
except for the sun
burnt zodiac
oh and oingo and boingo was also one part
wintry rampart
but i mean Pol is Bad Guy Turned Good so they probably wanted to get it out of the way
but damn silver chariot is cool as
burnt zodiac
ok, half of the first season of stardust crusaders are two-part fights which is less than i thought
but the only fight in battle in egypt which is one part is Oingo Boingo Brothers
so 70%+, which is pretty high
burnt zodiac
ok i might be dissing 2-part fights but Vanilla Ice deserves it 100%
wise hatch
Literally almost every fight is 2 eps excluding a few
burnt zodiac
yup
wintry rampart
vanilla ice was a good fight tbh
he's the best minor antagonist, or as i call him, manor antagonist, a mix of major and minor since he killed two people
oh wait that's a bad word since manor is an actual word so
middle antagonist?
dunno
burnt zodiac
yeah by my count while the first season has a pretty reasonable average of 1.33 episodes per arc battle in egypt has an average of 2
*first season of stardust crusaders
wintry rampart
some random minor antagonist who doesn't matter in the end: gets a whole two episodes
vanilla ice, who kills two side protagonists: gets one episode and a half
magician's red vs dio would've been an epic fight
or maybe not since
avdol would try to fry dio then he would just
stop time
and make him donut 2.0
avoiding the fires in the process
wintry rampart
He can avoid the fires but he can’t move fire back to avdol in time
unique hamlet
OK so why did the English subtitles here say "Dan of Steel" when he very clearly says STEELY DAN (jazz prog rock band)
?
The whole point is the music reference
why alter it
burnt zodiac
copyright
unique hamlet
fair enough I guess
burnt zodiac
not sure if they could even get sued for it but it'd come up eventually and probably be a huge pain in the ass
north silo
It’s all copyright shit
charred cobalt
It happens a lot
worldly zealot
why do you think they called the stand green tea instead of green day
viscid quartz
Copyright is a big gey
charred cobalt
Wrong chat
burnt zodiac
be careful, this is the part 3 chat lol
viscid quartz
unique hamlet
I walked into this Part already knowing the stands would be named after music stuff, so I was confused why none of them sounded like music references so far
wintry rampart
Did y’all see iggys death on ova
worldly zealot
are you not allowed to mention other parts at all? i thought it was relevant to the discussion
unique hamlet
like Purple Hermit, Silver Chariot, Magician's Red...etc.
north silo
#428584083703070731 this one would make more sense to talk in about multiple parts at once
If I remember correctly
burnt zodiac
the first stand that's a music reference is at the end of this part i think
after that they happen all the time
viscid quartz
Can’t mention future parts
viscid quartz
Previous are fine
unique hamlet
Oh so I was right in assuming they weren't music references?
burnt zodiac
Yeah, it's been the tarot so far
unique hamlet
it feels like Steely Dan is the first music reference in a looong time tbh
burnt zodiac
saying "green day was changed to green tea" is fine but don't get carried away referencing future parts
unique hamlet
I'm trying to recall the last one
burnt zodiac
Captain Tennille :p
worldly zealot
a few of the people in SC are named after music
unique hamlet
@burnt zodiac help me out with that one
worldly zealot
steely dan, j. geil, oingo/boingo, etc
north silo
Some people are named after actual people
wintry rampart
What was the most brutal death you saw in jojo overall but it has to be in either stardust crusaders or the ova
north silo
Like Michael Polnareff
viscid quartz
Ova Iggy
worldly zealot
some of the translation names are also musical references, like centerfold and zenyatta/mondatta
burnt zodiac
captain and tennille, the people who made "love will keep us together"
unique hamlet
ohh
near starBOT
@unique hamlet, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !
burnt zodiac
i thought for a really long time that name was original but nope
wintry rampart
@viscid quartz me too
worldly zealot
which makes me question why they changed the musical references for copyright to other musical references
charred cobalt
I thought that was the case until 20 seconds ago aeras
burnt zodiac
Yeah
north silo
In what cases did that happen?
near starBOT
@north silo, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
burnt zodiac
they're not a very well known name
weary turret
or ronnie james dio
old geode
Was anyone else really grossed out at the scene involving baby Polnareff's bath?
old geode
The "atta boy" guy really creeped me out as well
wintry rampart
I don't remember who ur talking about abkut
but I took such long breaks watching part 3 so
old geode
This guy, with the shadow stand that turns people into kids.
He literally told baby Polnareff that he gets off on hurting the weak
wintry rampart
oh yeah
pedo man
why do all the baby parts have shit too
like mansish boy eats shit
weary turret
babies don't do much
wintry rampart
and then polerfi shits on him
weary turret
kakyoin is a devious little dude
wintry rampart
I think someone had a werod fetish
weary turret
baby silver chariot was good :)
old geode
It looks like he's a tiny knight, still in knight daycare
wintry rampart
old geode
This is the only episode in part 3 to feature a fetus
near starBOT
@old geode, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
old geode
Well, the only part so far. I hope to God there's less naked babies tho
Please tell me there are fewer naked babies
old geode
wintry rampart
alessi is the worst, in the anime he's a pedo, in HFTF he's super annoying to fight
long story short: alessi bad
old geode
What I want to know, is why did he immediately assume that a baby was hiding inside of a wall clock. How could a baby climb a wall how could it go so high up. It's an infant
Alessi is the worst
weary turret
alessi is perhaps a bit weird
old geode
Just a smidge
wintry rampart
he is a moron
thats why
he deserved to die instead of just being retired
I hate how in part 3 and part 4 almost no stand users they fight die
it's lame
I mean
weary turret
plenty do
weary turret
the joestar gang aren't some kind of killers
wintry rampart
Killing them could be risking killing an innocent person under DIO's spell
steely dan needed die
he almost did tho lol
weary turret
they don't just go around killing people when they're perfectly capable of subduing them
wintry rampart
so did alessi
weary turret
they don't kill anyone who opposes them senselessly... that wouldn't be a very good guy thing to do
wintry rampart
I mean i'm not saying they should have tried to murder them but it feels lame that a lot of them didn't die
weary turret
a lot of them did die, though
wintry rampart
which ones
weary turret
people say that but they did kill a few people
J. Geil is the big one
Devo the Cursed
Enya
wintry rampart
again i took long breaks watching part 3 so my memeory is really bad of it
weary turret
Forever the orangutang is never explicitly dead but more implied to have been killed than most of the other dudes
weary turret
N'Doul
like, jotaro more or less says he's gonna kill him
||d'arby|| is beyond recovery, which is a fair bit worse off than some others
fire don't look
||pet shop|| exploded
nena is almost certainly dead
considering her stand was ripped to shreds
wintry rampart
I mean yeah now that I think about a lot of them did die
weary turret
yeah :v
old geode
Pedo guy literally got launched into the sky until he was out of view. Falling from a great height like that probably means he left with some serious injuries. You could assume he dies from them
wintry rampart
it just seems like more of them should havr
weary turret
yeah but we never see him dead, so he doesn't quite count
but nena's stand was ripped to shreds and all we see of her after that is a bloody unmoving body, so it's safe to say that she died
fortunately @old geode all the arcs after pedo man are mostly agreed to be good even by a lot of part 3's detractors so strap in 😎
wintry rampart
I like part 3 but it's pacing gets really tiring
old geode
@weary turret I can rest easy then
weary turret
i don't really see a problem with it's pacing at all... it's about the journey!
wintry rampart
I mean how the have to fight a stand user every arch and beat them
it's the first stand part so it's a bit rough and alot of the minor villans are borijg
weary turret
i like the minor villains and i think jojo does it well
we get a good idea of who these guys are from what little we see of them
wintry rampart
I don't hate them but they aren't that great
weary turret
it's all we really need to know about them
old geode
Part 1: Quest for Revenge
Part 2: Indiana Jones with more fighting
Part 3: A magical journey in a strange land
That's at least what this seems to mr
Me
wintry rampart
also this is just in the manga but at least early in it the stand fights end so fast
weary turret
yeah, kinda
wintry rampart
I'm only on the 3rd vol on the manga tho
weary turret
early in was when araki was still struggling to convince his editors that stands were a cool power and he didn't want to venture out into too crazy yet
i think that's why a lot of the later SDC stands have weirder powers
wintry rampart
yeah
what sucked about stand users every arch is we had so little time to just sit and get to know thr chaters
like they would rest for a bit amd than stand user would show up again
wintry rampart
It's just too jarring a lot of the time
weary turret
who travel together, and fight together
wintry rampart
yeah i like part 3
They also have some of the coolest stands to watch fight
Watching Silver Char. slice shit is cool
Watching Hierophant Green do it's things is cool
Watching Magician's Red flame shit up is cool
Hermit Purple is excluded
Star Platinum is cool to watch beat up people
or things
part 5 maincast were way cooler to watch imo
part 3 stands weren't that cool imo
compared to later ones
charred cobalt
Well this is part 3 chat so idk what that cast is
wintry rampart
I think hamon is like a fruit
wise hatch
Tf is this One Piece
wintry rampart
i only read part 4 what the hell is a tarot card
I only read the rohan spin off mangas
whats a joestar
wintry rampart
Man why are they making up this weird plot stuff about this DIO guy and why did they never expand on that
isn't dio that one guy
with the hands
snd ldgs
he was in the geroge joestar book
That says nani when that buff boy says "omae wa mou shindeiru"
I think that's a jojo
wintry rampart
no it's from bleach you goober
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !
wise hatch
Ah yes my mistake
wintry rampart
idot breathe
wise hatch
😞
fluid spear
Should I watch the dio fight in the anime or continue read the manga
heavy flower
if you wantt,,
fluid spear
Is the anime fight vs dio very good
heavy flower
Yes
burnt zodiac
from what i've heard basically the only good part of the OVA
unique hamlet
Badass
hearty grotto
Btw why is everyone shitting on ova so much
hearty grotto
Yea the voice acting on both sub and dub is terrible but i think jotaro vs dio was better at some points in the ova
wintry rampart
But his endangered status does not spare him from the ORA ORA ORA
weary turret
jotaro vs dio was good and the poker game was great
ornate merlin
Or you could watch both adaptations of something
And judge them as separate things. Which most people don’t do for the OVA
wintry rampart
I don't like what there is of the PB movie because it seems like it lost focus of what jojo is supposed to be
All the OVAs actually
Have a really really serious tone
Except the first one because polnareff is there
The main reason i think why the OVAs are not that loved is because of the seriousness and "edginess"
Now that's too far
wintry rampart
am i the only one who noticed!?
@wintry rampart if ova was all we had, we wouldve liked it but Stardust crusaders did remake it better honestly
Stardust crusaders made it so it had a better explanitory
for example for iggys death
in iggys death in ova is scary, it's brutal
iggy's death in this one makes it sad and it gets to the point
but here's how ova iggy's death is better
when iggy died, nobody saw it coming, cause i think ova didn't have the part when iggy was fighting the pet bird from dios house
so they never showed that iggy wasn't as annoying as they thought
They knew it when he fought polnareff thougg
I knew he was gonna die the second polnarref told him to dodge
but it took me a while to figure iggy was gonna die
in the new version i saw iggy's death coming because how would a dog with a broken leg be able to stay with 2 people when one person already died
now lets get to avdol's death
avdols OVA death we didn't see come either
Avdol was with the others so we knew nobody was gonna die
but then avdol in new version, when they split up i knew someone was gonna die
queen heron
Does anyone know where I can watch the blu ray version of SDC
worldly zealot
on a blu ray disc
queen heron
Thx
worldly zealot
np
quick sage
:big brain:
vernal steppe
If you get the blu ray box set you get a sweet art book too
And your payment adds half a frame of sakuga to the next episode
I have not done any calculations to arrive at that figure
wintry rampart
What's good my stardust peeps
weary turret
we walkin like an egyptian
solid bane
to the last train home
wintry rampart
stand proud
viscid carbon
I noticed that SDC often gets compared unfavorably to the likes of four five and seven. I had a hell of a lot of fun watching it though.
So what do you guys think are some good examples of underappreciated fights in the first half of part 3?
near starBOT
@viscid carbon, Your Stand Power is now level 13 !
viscid carbon
Like I get that most people enjoyed the fight with J Geil but a lot of the so-called filler fights were pretty good too
wintry rampart
nearly all the fights felt like filler to me
even the goods ones
idk why
I liked part 3 a lot but idk
weary turret
rubber soul (yellow temperance), steely dan (lovers), zz (wheel of fortune), midler (high priestess), the whole mini-arc in japan
viscid quartz
Manga wise they were fine but DP decided to drag them most of them for 2 episodes each
I can see why
viscid carbon
Ebony devil, Justice, High Priestess and of course lovers were all really fun to watch
wintry rampart
but in the manga they felt too short too me
at least in the first 3 vols
I only that read far
in the manga
it's ass
why can't I get a good middle ground
weary turret
i liked mannish boy (death 13) and arabia fats (sun) too
even tho sun is kind of a polarizing one
weary turret
that was the joke
frozen flame
I always forget wheel of fortune existed
weary turret
wheel of fortune was SO good it's just them goofing around for almost the whole episode
you gotta remember that a good 70% of their trip is just them being like this in the car
viscid carbon
I thought Wheel of Fortune was fun to watch too. I think there's some bias against it because it is a very straightforward physical threat
Rather than being tricky or mysterious
weary turret
ok i'll say it doesn't have the best design but it was neat enough
also it was the last episode with anne the runaway girl
so rip
wintry rampart
a lot of things in part 3 did
like I feel like they should have fought j geils way later
he was built up so much
only die right away
weary turret
no i think it was fine where he was
weary turret
he died almost 12 episodes in
wintry rampart
but thats like the only the 6th battle
if you read the manga where all the fights are super fast it's like in the 3rd vol
weary turret
i've read the manga
wintry rampart
even in the anime it felt too quick too
weary turret
yeah but i think it worked
weary turret
it set up enya too
wintry rampart
she died too fast too imo
weary turret
she was their real mid-boss
i liked that they went and kicked j. geil's ass so quickly. showed how bad the agents of dio were
even though he's responsible for so much grief to polnareff, he's just another one of dio's minions
wintry rampart
thats why I didn't like it
it felt too easy
and also the fact they brought advol back also made that fight mean even less
like a big story point was porilfeif feeling guilty about his death
but then he just fucking undies
weary turret
yeah bringing abdul back always kinda made it feel like a fakeout but i was happy to have him back anyway
wintry rampart
it also made his actual death mean a lot less to me
but I feel like it fucked up poriflis charter really fast to get revenge super fast and then have the lesson he learned in that fight mean way less cuz advol comes back.
also for fucks sake I can't spell his name right at all
lol
weary turret
i agree that it was kind of a dumb fakeout to just bring him back like that
on the other hand he didn't get to do much the first time anyway and he didn't do too much after so it was okay
solid bane
apparently avdol came back because of fans
wintry rampart
really?
weary turret
no, that's not true
wintry rampart
he didn't really do much before his first death and I didn't care that much after he died
viscid quartz
I thought that was the headcanon before Araki said no?
weary turret
abdul was never especially popular
wintry rampart
I only liked him a lot when he came back
weary turret
araki always intended to bring him back
wintry rampart
I found it really fucked up that whole cast knew he was alive expect polferreif
he felt so bad about letting him die
and then when he comes back they move on like nothing happened
weary turret
out of fairness they somehow really didn't think he'd be bothered by the fact that they hid that from him
buuuuuuuut yeah they kinda dropped the ball on that one
weary turret
yyyeah
wintry rampart
he died because of him in his eyes
weary turret
to be fair, the only one he really talks about that to is kakyoin
and he didn't know at the time, and he's always been sort of a quiet guy, and would try his best to keep a secret
wintry rampart
I guess but it's still fuckedup
weary turret
yeah
wintry rampart
and they don't even give him time to process it they just move on like nothing happend
like oh yeah he was alive lets go
weary turret
cool second trauma, polnareff, HEY GUYS, CHECK OUT THIS SUBMARINE
wintry rampart
lol
why joesph keep getting expensive vehicles when they would get fucked up like mintues after getting into them
weary turret
i bet THIS one will get us to egypt in one piece
wintry rampart
lol
submarines aren't fucking cheap
I don't care how much money the swf has
well that was a good way to spend money it got us 3 miles closer to where were going
weary turret
what? yeah
weary turret
hell yeah
wintry rampart
Like Stardust is HELLA underrated compared to 5, 7, 8.
wintry rampart
Imo
Best Stando.
Osiris.
best stand was the one stand
Fucking loved the D'Arby arc.
he did the thing
weary turret
alessi sucked and osiris ruled
wintry rampart
Like how can Araki
Go like
"Shonen ya know what here's some intense mental soul gambling"
And Shonen is like
both D'arby fights were really fun
"Yeah cool better censor the cigarette"
100%
Pretty much shows willpower is needed instead of raw strength.
weary turret
shonen is like "cool lets just revitalize the high-stakes gambling genre for a cool 5 years or so after this because of this one arc"