Thank
#stardust-crusaders
junior garnet
The son of your daughter is your gandson
vagrant pilot
Also i'm pretty sure dio doesn't get the green lipstick until he loses the jacket and headband
junior garnet
He succs Joseph
vagrant pilot
PFPFPFPFP
junior garnet
And finds green lipstick in there
potent rivet
Isn't #manga-jojokes the appropriate channel for conversations like this?
rose hinge
pls
solid bane
why would he not
full hill
he did actually have respect for jonathan by the end of part 1
vagrant pilot
OR:
He decided to steal jonathan's body then rationalized it
He respects only himself, so if Jonathan is gonna be a part of himself he has to rationalize that Jonathan is as good as him
Not saying this is fact but it's plausible
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 23 !
vagrant pilot
Well ofc he doesn't want his body damaged
wintry rampart
you guys like how jotaro managed to woo an underaged woman
celest violet
Rebellious Jotaro
Rebellious Jotaro
wintry rampart
Lolicon Jotaro
celest violet
worthy cedar
no
wintry rampart
solid bane
celest violet
The birth of my favorite JoJo!😍
Jouta
wintry rampart
what the fuck am I currently looking at
potent rivet
the reason why certain fandoms are viewed so poorly
vagrant pilot
Oh quit being so uptight 
wintry rampart
jojo ahegao is one of the things I really did not want to see. or expect to see
vagrant pilot
i mean you're not seeing any nsfw shit
and if seeing something homosexually themed on a jojo server offends your sensibilities, you may be reading/watching the wrong series
You're entitled to your opinions, but that's all imma say
wintry rampart
server doesn't allow political stuff which discussing this in detail would be. but for the record jojo hentai (guy or girl) is disgusting to me. Idc that it's gay
well by hentai it's pretty light
but ahegao and lewd-ish
sure
didn't he read that in the anime? in prison or something
or was that shounen jump?
something like that
awh
ye
celest violet
Yes but actually No
vagrant pilot
And thus ora displaced yatatata
Jotaro is just a nerd
Yeah, but in terms of anime/manga
Fist of the North Star is literally Bruce Lee Mad Max
potent rivet
@vagrant pilot All you've been doing is talking about how you want JoJo characters to be Gay, shipping those characters, stuff about main characters having sex with animals. I'm not being Uptight, nor am I a homophobe. Those conversations do not belong here. It's pretty simple. You're entitled to your opinions as well. Just don't share them here.
vagrant pilot
Uh... I've been discussing same as anyone else does?
I wasn't even talking to you in particular, chill.
And unless I made a gag somewhere, I don't know what the hell you're on about animals.
Besides, that topic was like twenty minutes ago (Over an hour if you ignore how brief that last bit was). Kindly quit looking for controversy.
I need to refresh myself what he sounded like at the end of part 2. What did you think of old joseph in part 3? I've heard mixed opinions
Works well enough I suppose
full hill
he sounds a bit too british IMO
by that point he'd lived in the US for most of his life
keen dagger
Out of all 4 joestars ive seen, joseph is the best one
vagrant pilot
Damn right
keen dagger
Jotaro in 2nd place
Cant say here in 3rd
And jonathan in 4th (i like him but prefer the others)
keen dagger
No
Imo cant say here is
(Prt 4 protag)
I also cant move to #diamond-is-unbreakable havent finished
potent rivet
there's no visible spoilers in that chat right now, or any discussion going on so it's pretty safe for now
potent rivet
I'm not familiar with that one.
potent rivet
that episode where he got turned into a kid was funny
and all the toilet gags
My headcanon is that he's Stroheims grandson
junior garnet
Germans and French don't get along
vagrant pilot
Well you see, Polnareff looks related to Dire
But at the same time Kakyoin is obviously descended from Dire as his emerald splash is the greatest thing since thunder cross split attack
vagrant pilot
so, Kakyoin and Polnareff are cousins
junior garnet
KakPol just got invalidated
potent rivet
Whats that got to do with anything
Germans occupied france. Soldiers & citizens fell in love, others forced it. Children were born.
vagrant pilot
uh, nobody said it had to be during ww2 what're you on
keen dagger
Tbh i like french accents
vagrant pilot
i don't think polnareff is even that old
potent rivet
there's a slight resemblance there and we know how Araki likes to have lineages
keen dagger
It just sounds soothing
vagrant pilot
Some say he switched art designs just so he could reuse the same face
potent rivet
Polnareff being Stroheims grandson is still a possibility.
keen dagger
Guile looks a bit off
potent rivet
Polanreff is actually who Guile is based on lol
keen dagger
Oh cool
potent rivet
the hair ended up the way it is because they had to shorten it
inner plume
celest violet
Dead Meme repetitive video
inner plume
It's not a joke. I only just seen it now, sorry for the fact I don't come on here much.
celest violet
K
thorny garnet
I actually really like these tbh
void magnet
ikr
open merlin
bruh this got 2 seasons nahhh
void magnet
@open merlin ?
open merlin
im struggling to finish the first season because its so repeatitive
celest violet
I don’t like where this is going...
void magnet
oh
celest violet
Oh shit, here we go again
void magnet
may i play devil's advocate and make a suggestion some may be opposed to?
open merlin
ok
void magnet
try the OVA
it's much more laser focused, as it only keeps arcs relevant to the story and cuts most of the episodic stuff
celest violet
Play Heritage for the Future story mode
void magnet
kekekek
open merlin
whats heritage
vagrant pilot
The OVA doesn't flow well with the Part 4 anime is the only thing
It absolutely is not a substitute for the part 3 anime, tis its own beast entirely
winged lintel
@open merlin Part 3 isnt something you should try to rush through
vagrant pilot
Also @void magnet Tho he was definitely involved a lot in the OVAs the director of the phantom blood movie didn't direct the OVAs
open merlin
its gonna take so long to finish
vagrant pilot
That's who made those art oieces
void magnet
oh, really? @vagrant pilot wow, I need to go brush up a bit
winged lintel
But part 3more than any other part is about the journey not the destination
vagrant pilot
It's fine lol
void magnet
@open merlin i binged most of part 3
open merlin
schools back so i cant binge it
winged lintel
Dont be so focused on finishing jojo just watch when you can and enjoy the fights and characters
celest violet
My Easter break just started
open merlin
i heard part 4 is really good and im excited to watch it
vagrant pilot
All parts are good for diff reasons
winged lintel
It is
But you shouldnt rush through any jojo content just to get to part 4
Cause once you do you can never experience it for the first time again
vagrant pilot
Part 3 isn't as perfect as its iconic status might suggest, but it's still really good
void magnet
part 4 is affected quite a bit by part 3
celest violet
Also @open merlin Heritage is a 1998 video game released for the arcades and it’s a fighting game based on Part 3
vagrant pilot
Heritage for the Future was also iirc the very first JoJo thing to be localized to english
open merlin
ill watch this part slowly and wont rush it. maybe watch 1-4 episodes a week
vagrant pilot
Then the OVA and part 3 manga followed
celest violet
There is no bad JoJo part
Expect PB
winged lintel
You can watch 12 episodes in a day
Just dont focus on only powering through it to get to the ending
vagrant pilot
@celest violet Stinky Giorno you shut your mouth
thorny garnet
PB is not bad wtf
open merlin
its 2 seasons
winged lintel
It is
open merlin
😦
vagrant pilot
It's not delivery,
It's a disappointment.
It's DiGIORNO
winged lintel
Its about the journey
celest violet
@vagrant pilot It’s boring,bland and meh fights
void magnet
no part of JoJo is bad. Some are just better than others
vagrant pilot
Only boring and bland because we aren't blessed with the holy movie
The prophecy foretells that I, Dio, will deliver the movie upon humanity
open merlin
is there going to be a new jojo movie
void magnet
nvm that's illegal
jagged maple
Part 3 was really simple, but that's what I liked about it
vagrant pilot
No, i'm joking about a 2007 movie based on part 1 that's impossible to watch
It was just never released on dvd or blu ray after it left theatres
open merlin
does joseph joestar die?
winged lintel
The part 4 movie didnt do well so we probably wont get the sequel to that either
Uhhhh
I meaaaaaaan
vagrant pilot
I mean they chose Takashi Miike to direct it
winged lintel
Im not answering that
vagrant pilot
Dude's whole game is quantity over quality
open merlin
ok
vagrant pilot
He makes like 3 movies a year he's insane
He's... Consistently passable
He has only a few standouts, not always for good reasons (Ichi the Killer is supposed to be super gross). JoJo was another meh chapter in his filmography
celest violet
Part 4 live action movie looks baaaaaaaaaaaad
vagrant pilot
Part of me wants the anime to end ASAP because the phantom blood movie will likely never be re-released while it's ongoing
But that'd be ruining other people's fun and that's not very nice
jagged maple
The live action movie was great
rose hinge
Wow, how admirable + considerate @vagrant pilot
vagrant pilot
Truly I am a merciful god among men
For I could cancel the anime if I truly deigned to
My uncle works at DP you know
rose hinge
We are not worthy 🙏
celest violet
My uncle is working for Araki
celest violet
I want 4 of them!
wintry rampart
Also we have cherry donuts
And vanilla ice cream
Clean toilets
And new brand attraction: WHEEL OF FORTUNE
We are bigger than disney!
weary turret
years of the joestar family's battle against vampires has helped build up an immunity, duh
wanton turret
@daring vine #manga-jojokes only please for jojo memes
daring vine
ok >: )
keen dagger
If someone can build a polnareff land. Thatll be great
nocturne hamlet
Kek yoin
vagrant pilot
I can build a polnareff land, but it's an OVA only polnareff land
keen dagger
ill take it
vagrant pilot
Alrighty
junior garnet
Avdol is the most powerful crusader because he can say the n word
normal apex
^
potent rivet
HELL 2 U
keen dagger
Are we allowed to talk about heratige for the future here
junior garnet
Yeah
keen dagger
Sweet. I always wanted to try the game. Whos a good character to start off with
keen dagger
People say dio abd black polnareff are good
vocal halo
keen dagger
Basically polnareff when controlled by anubis
potent rivet
yeah. its anubis polnareff
spark pilot
celest violet
What Happened?
celest violet
Damn it Youtube
inner plume
yeah its pretty fucked
solid bane
Animelody making profit
potent dew
friendly reminder that this is the greatest foreshadowing in all of jojo
potent dew
cries in part 5 op 2
oblique geyser
jojo
celest violet
Because Stands were better
empty cedar
i like both
keen dagger
But nothing will beat bloddy stream
empty cedar
u havent watched ougon no kaze?
keen dagger
Im only at the beggining of pt 4
empty cedar
op 5 is p4 rite?
keen dagger
Crazy noise bizzare town
junior garnet
Lots of people in Part 3 chat have just finished Part 3
Most people are not caught up
keen dagger
PART SKIPPER
WE GOT A PART SKIPPER
I shall execute u
(But seriously idc if u skip parts do u)
junior garnet
I did the same, so that I could watch Part 5 as it aired
Skipping parts doesn't affect me much because I went into PB knowing how every part ended
so...
vagrant pilot
I just heard something about part 6 is really fucky
prisma lichen
it is
near starBOT
@prisma lichen, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
prisma lichen
kinda
vagrant pilot
Obvs cant say because i genuinely have no idea
Part 6 seems to be the least discussed by far anyways
Part 3 the most besides whichever the anime happens to be on at any given tims
keen dagger
Part 3 is really good though
junior garnet
Part 1 is the least discussed
vagrant pilot
Shit yeah, asides from 1
junior garnet
Vanilla Ice, Nukesaku, DIO
keen dagger
Yep
vagrant pilot
I always initially interprered Hamon as being undead/pillarman inly
Because Zepelli and the frog is a classic 'break stone with your fists thru the power of martial arts' trope except the point is hamon can just bypass the frog because it flows through living beings rather than stopping in them
Plus it'd be boring to just kill Dio with the same techniques Jonathan used
weary turret
zep' says something like 1 in 20,000 people have the capacity to learn the techniques
it's not inconcievable it's the same potential for realizing a stand
after all, a stand is a "ghostly ripple"
vagrant pilot
Plus i recall he hit speedwagon with the hamon activating thing to shut him up and it just hurt a lot and did nothing
To me it mainly depends on if zeppeli can tell somehow before hitting them that people can or can't do hamon
Which I think he'd have to, to know Jonathan can
Joseph didn't know Caesar could but... Joseph is kinda stupid like that
weary turret
not everyone has the potential for stands
and not everyone has the potential to learn hamon
if we believe zeppeli
orchid veldt
I mean everybody has the power to gain a stand they just need something to fight for
vagrant pilot
They need something to... stand for
weary turret
i thought you needed to be born with one and it will manifest someday 🤔
orchid veldt
Well
Like
Isn't there all that talk about
"Your stand is a manifestation of your fighting spirit."
weary turret
and not everyone has one
you can have a will to fight
but it's not the same as a fighting spirit
keen dagger
Me when i see a chatacthers backstory before they fight
F
orchid veldt
Well like
Obviously there is more
That I could talk about better
Outside of the Part 3 channel
weary turret
there are more parts? damn
orchid veldt
daring vine
Araki lets a nazi survive but kills an innocent doughnut boy?
potent rivet
In one of the worse battles, too. Poor dude though
weary turret
oh well
potent rivet
does everything he did, which helped save the world and all people think of him is "he's a nazi!"
weary turret
maybe he shouldn't have been a nazi then
celest violet
F for Stroheim
potent rivet
American soldiers do some pretty fucked up shit for their country. it's no different for the Germans. There wasn't really a choice either beyond "do or die"
daring vine
oh rip
potent rivet
And if it wasn't for him awakening Santana, the other 3 would've likely had free reign to do as they please.
daring vine
i dont mind him as a character like it puts thing in perspective in a way
like the world isnt black and white
but to be fair im not out here tryna defend nazis and rapists etc theres just better ways of dooing things
vagrant pilot
I mean he was an enthusiastic nationalist sieg-heiling german, just because he doesn't want the pillar men to fuck up germany doesn't mean he's a good dude
daring vine
yeah
potent rivet
the guy was clearly more loyal to Germany than the nazis. A lot of the soldiers were
daring vine
i can see that too
vagrant pilot
Riiiight
safe gazelle
He was definitely not a good guy but not the worst of the worst
daring vine
not neutral
near starBOT
@daring vine, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
safe gazelle
Nazis horrible Stroheim less horrible but still bad in the grand scheme of things
vagrant pilot
Also, that's not so true. Some divisions (navy) weren't particularly nazi ardent, but the regular army was VERY pro-nazi, especially in the later years due to the hitler youth to army pipeline
daring vine
imo people can have opinions like not liking a group or ethnicity as long as theyre respectfull
vagrant pilot
So stroheim would very likely have been a party member.
safe gazelle
I mean if you team up with someone to save the world then I think it's okay if they are a Nazi
daring vine
but its obvious joseph didnt agree and all
vagrant pilot
It's not like they were buddies with stroheim for sure
daring vine
yeah
daring vine
priorty i guess putting the world over a minority
safe gazelle
Joseph seemed to have no ill wills for Stroheim considering he wanted to visit him for his hand
Again not buddies but not enemies
vagrant pilot
I mean appreciating whatever the unholy fuck stroheim's mechanic is understandable
daring vine
joseph was defo not a nazi but i guess he respected him for risking his life
but alot of what the nazis wasnt seen until after the war
safe gazelle
I mean you gotta respect Stroheim considering how many times he risked his life
vagrant pilot
The absolute worst, yeah, but they were always known to be dickheads. Joseph I can't imagine being too involved in politics though
safe gazelle
Probably not
safe gazelle
I imagine it was because he raised a daughter only for her to travel away to Japan
vagrant pilot
SHHHHH
vagrant pilot
Frobe's voice was dubbed except in trailers iirc
daring vine
after getting to know kakyoin and jotaro i think he respected people from japan more?
vagrant pilot
Josephs dialogue implies he has seen jotaro before
daring vine
yeah i think its obvious since his affair
vagrant pilot
But jotaro's lack of connection inplies he was way too young to remember
daring vine
yeah i think so
no proper bonding tho
and jotaro is basically a diffrent person from his youth like going all emo n stuff
safe gazelle
Why did Jotaro's attitude change so quickly though
vagrant pilot
Waddya mean?
daring vine
idk it dosent seem like puberty
safe gazelle
His personality wasn't always like that until A few days before prison
safe gazelle
Even still we see a Jotaro about the same age being polite through a serious of flashbacks
safe gazelle
His personality did a 180 after he got a stand
daring vine
maybe he was being a cuck
safe gazelle
Jotaro's family are rich
solid bane
it was holy's flashbacks, maybe that's her way of seeing jotaro
daring vine
idk holly didnt seem shocked like she was used to him acting punk
safe gazelle
His father's a musician and they seem to be well off
daring vine
p u b e r ty
vagrant pilot
It's the secret joestar family genes
vagrant pilot
Joseph really does just get better with age
daring vine
kek part 3 is so good like what the heell
safe gazelle
Jotaro couldn't have changed personality until he acquired Star Platinum but we see instances where he refers to asshole things he did before jail
daring vine
yeah
holly wouldve been shocked if it was sudden
besides from the flashbacks he dosent look strong enough for a stand before switching imo
kek gotta go byyye~
vagrant pilot
I think Jotaro is just supposed to be a stereotypical delinquent
Are stands heritable to a degree? Like their power
And if so can it skip generations?
Because i'm thinking like... What if The World was jonathan's stand all along? :o
solid bane
i thought the passion was jonathan's stand
safe gazelle
Never said but it's most likely the passion
weary turret
not quite
The Passion is Jonathan's stand in Jorge Joestar, and functions very differently from Hermit Purple
it has a slightly different appearance too
it's not the same stand, it's not the correct name, and it's not really jonathan's stand
unless we take jorge joestar as canon
keen dagger
How did joseph get a stand
near starBOT
@keen dagger, Your Stand Power is now level 12 !
potent rivet
he always had it. but it was inactive. When DIO got his, it activated through the bloodline and unlocked everyone elses stands
the always had it part is more of an educated guess that explains the "your next line is" but the rest applies
keen dagger
Why dosent kakyoin possess stand users to make them kill themselves
weary turret
the possession thing isn't easy
the victim must swallow the whole stand
and it's also internally damaging to the victim
they aren't killers
the only time i think it would have really been useful was steely dan and lovers
then again, that might have shred up joseph's insides
weary turret
twice, once on their school nurse and once on mannish boy and death 13
keen dagger
Oh yea
weary turret
weary turret
jojo fans are just like that
obsidian zodiac
random beetle appears
Crusaders: guys that might be a stand
car literally disappears
Crusaders: there's no way that could be a stand right?
weary turret
well, they figure out that the driver is probably an enemy stand user pretty quickly
they don't figure out that the car itself is the stand until a bit later
weary turret
nope
the manga is kinda misleading about this
but the car itself is not the stand
weary turret
rather the stand, Wheel of Fortune, is bound to the car, making it beefier
wintry rampart
o
keen dagger
Ohhhh
weary turret
when they defeat the user, the car turns back to normal
and it's actually a pile of scrap
same goes for the orangutan stand user's stand, Strength and the rowboat
but even non-stand users see a really big ship or a really tough car
weary turret
the show and the manga say stuff like "the ship is a giant stand", but it's not quite true
wintry rampart
The ship wasn't the stand?
weary turret
the stand was bound to the ship
wintry rampart
oooh
weary turret
it made it huge and controllable by the orangutan
but the ship itself was real
-ish
wintry rampart
that's actually really cool
burnt zodiac
i dont think there are other bound stands in part 3 but they show up some more in other parts
weary turret
there's a couple
wintry rampart
o
weary turret
Divine Anubis
wintry rampart
waht?!?!?
weary turret
which didn't have a living user, so the object it was bound to had to be destroyed
wintry rampart
there's a divine anubis
burnt zodiac
i fuckin forgot about anubis
wintry rampart
I thought it was just called anubis
burnt zodiac
Nah it's the same anubis
wintry rampart
o
burnt zodiac
it's bc they're all the "9 egypt glory gods"
weary turret
also Yellow Temperance, which consumes living matter to make itself tangible
keen dagger
The anubis death scene was funny
burnt zodiac
so technically the full name is God Anubis or whatever
keen dagger
Was he actually anubis
weary turret
in japanese, it's "anubis-shin", but most translations drop the honorific for whatever reason
no the stand wasn't the real anubis, it was just a stand with no user
well, it had a user, but he died some 500 years ago
weary turret
we dunno. some stands are just weird
wintry rampart
Makes sense
weary turret
maybe the fact that the stand possessed other people had something to do with it
burnt zodiac
jojo logic pretty much
weary turret
another bound stand was ebony devil, but it was a pretty atypical bound stand
wintry rampart
Jotaro: dies
Star Platinum: actually smiles for once
weary turret
ahaha
burnt zodiac
ebony devil was kinda weird lol
guess it's just one of those weird early-on stands 🤷
weary turret
ebony devil had a physical form separate from the object it possessed, but the damage done to the doll still ended up killing the user
yeah
Divine Thoth was also a bound stand
but we don't really know how that one works
it's a stand not controlled by its user
burnt zodiac
i would say "might not even be a stand" but im p sure he can see stands
Emperor i think is explicitly not a bound stand, which i always thought was funny
since that means hol horse is just shooting finger bullets
weary turret
it is a stand because DIO identifies it as one, and it would be weird if it were magic. good enough
yeah lol, emperor is completely invisible to non-stand users
the last one in SDC i think is Geb, which binds itself to liquid to attack and can be controlled from a fair distance
burnt zodiac
i thought geb was just liquid and not bound to liquid
but i don't think that came up during the fight lol
another weird quirk is that magicians red's fire is invisible to non-stand-users iirc
he doesn't set things on fire, the fire is part of the stand. always thought that one was funny as well
weary turret
geb is bound to liquid. the SPW workers could see it
near starBOT
@weary turret, Your Stand Power is now level 25 !
weary turret
magician's red's fire is also part of the stand because abdul can freely manipulate it
like hol horse's bullets
suprisingly, they&re rather similar stands
junior garnet
Let's not
frozen flame
@subtle oyster please keep it sfw
subtle oyster
junior garnet
He's really not
Cut out Strength and nothing changes
They're in the exact same position at the start of the fight as they are at the end
And it's another enemy that gets beaten by Jotaro getting close enough to punch its brains out
As I've said before, the Tarot Stands were a checklist
astral shell
what about hanged man?
weary turret
strength was an important fight, it's what taught the characters that atands and their users could be anyone and anything
orchid veldt
If you wanna remove a stand, do Wheel of Fortune, it's Strength but worse
weary turret
but it was funny and wrapped up anne the runaway in the plot
magic reef
wheel of fortune is also the only 4th wall break in all of jojo
that alone means it can stay
magic reef
dark blue moon can go yeah
worthy cedar
not as bad as the monkey
magic reef
Strength was shit but it was necessary
solid bane
that's the captain right
weary turret
dark blue moon introduces the stand telepathy thing and jotaro's max range
also the arc introduces anne the runway and is real funny all around
burnt zodiac
dark blue moon and strength both could've been better
weary turret
sure but you can't say they're not less important than other arcs later
none of sdc is "filler"
except maybe Sun
but the joke there is that it's filler so whatever
:v
burnt zodiac
Tenor Sax lol
weary turret
that's not an arc
solid bane
remove everything that adds anne, there donezo
rose hinge
and then attach Jonathan's body to someone else and create a new joestar bloodline
burnt zodiac
instead of him getting counter-kicked to death? yeah
magic reef
end of the world is the best part about part 3
velvet spade
And the lyrics are amazing
velvet spade
Stand Proud is cool too
magic reef
SP lowkey mad stinky
velvet spade
Why is there 'Saitama'
wintry rampart
BRUH YALL DON'T EVEN LIKE WALK LIKE AN EGYPCIAN
velvet spade
@magic reef It was the fucking first stand that came from Araki, what did you expect
wintry rampart
velvet spade
@wintry rampart It's my favorite outro
wintry rampart
nice
wintry rampart
velvet spade
Oh ok
magic reef
and the world came first btw
wintry rampart
oh ok then
magic reef
no OP is actively bad
wintry rampart
bloody stream is still the best
velvet spade
@magic reef I said in the sense of like, the first stand reveal
magic reef
funny way of spelling great days
wintry rampart
and chase is still the worst
magic reef
I like chase as well
velvet spade
I hate Great Days
wintry rampart
my bf said i came first literally too
magic reef
I can't decide if I dislike chase or part 5s first OP more though
great days is amazing
magic reef
🚨 ⚠ wrong opinion alert ⚠ 🚨
wintry rampart
fighting gold is fun imo
velvet spade
^
magic reef
if we're talking just music then yeah FG > chase
OP as a whole though FG is not that good
wintry rampart
what a accomplishment then
magic reef
yeah ok but the best song in the entire jojo's OST is obviously ||the oingo boingo brothers ED||
magic reef
TR is my second favourite
velvet spade
Kakyoin's theme is the best from part 3
solid bane
too bad he doesn't have too many chances to shine
velvet spade
I just absolutely love the Violin
weary turret
love this part 3 discussion
wintry rampart
Bloody Stream
Sono Chi no sadame
Uragimono no requiem
Great days
Sono Chi no kioku
Stand Proud
Fighting Gold
Crazy Noisy Bizarre town
Chase
imo
velvet spade
It hypes me so fucking much
Ah yes
Blood Stream is actually overrated
I mean, it's not bad
magic reef
^
wintry rampart
it isn't
magic reef
have you ever heard jazz before
wintry rampart
Ya like jazz ?
solid bane
it is really
velvet spade
In 5 JoJofans, 4 will say Chase bad and Bloody Stream good
solid bane
balanced as all things should be
magic reef
bloody stream is good
velvet spade
But it's not the actual god op
velvet spade
I've heard Bloody Stream so much that I don't feel anything from it anymore
solid bane
i guess since it's a good and a non cliche anime song
wintry rampart
Because chase is bad (can even hurt some people's ears) and sounds like a garage rock band, while bloody stream got sax, great vocals and actually works for the part while not being cliche
magic reef
that goes for every OP bar one
solid bane
i just can't find the rythm in chase
velvet spade
Sorry
magic reef
how is there no rhythm
solid bane
which is thrown off by the vocals
wintry rampart
yes
velvet spade
I really love Chase's vocals
magic reef
OoO syNCOPaTiOn ooF OwIe
wintry rampart
NANANANA ChaseEEe
velvet spade
You can clearly listen "Kokomademo Chase you"
Or something like that, I don't remember the lyrics
solid bane
the chorus is a good part
wintry rampart
yes i can but i forgot
magic reef
pre-chorus is pretty good too
I'll admit the first verse is pretty all over the place
wintry rampart
the thing is that it just doesn't stand up to any of the ops
solid bane
the chorus practically carries the song
magic reef
the song is basically intro, verse, chorus, pre-chorus, chorus for the OP so it makes sense
wintry rampart
its still the worst op
velvet spade
Oh ok then
magic reef
good jojo's bizzare adventure: stardust crusaders convo everyone
wintry rampart
yeah
faint salmon
Words cannot describe how badly i want to go to Polnareff Land
soft grail
If Disney buys the rights to JoJo, then this could be a reality.
faint salmon
I got a boner at the thought of that
solid bane
also a musical, and a followup anime with non violent jojo's
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
keen dagger
@faint salmon same. It sounds fun. And its runned by the legend himself
faint salmon
What kind of rides would polnareff land even have
keen dagger
Of course. A chariot themed roller coaster
And maybe there could be a tower drop ride with polnareffs hair
potent rivet
Fresh bakeries for Baguettes & Croissants too
keen dagger
And cotton candy shaped like polnareffs hair
potent rivet
And private toilet stalls
keen dagger
Corn dogs on silver chariots sword
faint salmon
Every new suggestion keeps getting better
potent rivet
tower drop could be an Eiffel tower replica
or maybe Polnareff land would be built around the actual Eiffel tower
keen dagger
Maybe there could also be a ferris wheel that takes place in a dream like world and gives u popcorn and ice cream. Oh yea and a dead dog is next to u
faint salmon
Wait a minute
keen dagger
Lali ho motha fucker
potent rivet
they probably could build it using the donations for notre dame
faint salmon
Why would we wanna fix a shitty old church when they could use the money to build polnareff land
near starBOT
@faint salmon, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
keen dagger
Tru.
potent rivet
I think there's enough for both
keen dagger
Im going to paris for a tour sometime. Ill tell u if i see polnareff land
potent rivet
last time I went I got sick from eating too much bread
faint salmon
I’ve heard they sell the entirety of the part 3 manga there but instead polnareff is the mc instead of jotaro
potent rivet
Yes. it's true
keen dagger
Polnareffs bizzare adventure
I dont say this enough. But polnareff is my favorite character. Im so glad they gave him so much screen time
potent rivet
It's called Les aventures bizzare de Jean-Pierre Polnareff: Chevaliers de la poussiere d'etoile
faint salmon
I would totally read that tbh
keen dagger
I cant pronounce french without butchering
potent rivet
neither can the french, so don't worry
keen dagger
Wheres the aeon stand
full hill
@faint salmon @wintry rampart please use #manga-jojokes for memes, not the discussion channels
wanton turret
@keen dagger aeon isn't more commonly known/part of the more well known major arcanas, so it's not in this part. Pretty sure it's part of the Thoth variation, right? It replaces Judgement
keen dagger
Hmmm. I guess so. I only see aeon in persona
burnt zodiac
I thought Aeon was just a thing Persona made up
Either way I wouldn't expect araki to know abt and use it lol
wanton turret
Oh, I think aeon is a persona thing actually, I forgot but at the very least I know that it ain't part of the rider-waite(?) Tarot, which is the common one
burnt zodiac
Hunger I think is in thoth? Idk lol
wanton turret
Yeah hunger replaces uhhh, I forget, was it strength?
Whatever
Thoth has Magus for Magician and that's what matters
keen dagger
potent rivet
lol
potent rivet
Took longer than I thought but my copy of the part 3 LV is officially on its way to me
wintry rampart
Tower of grey has killed the most people in the entire series
soft grail
DIO has a higher skill count because of the amount of women that he sucked blood from.
toxic basalt
junior garnet
"higher skill count"
Also, def not highest kill count in the series. There are some crazy Stands later on
weary turret
the pillar men gave sucked away lives for over a hundred thousand years
their kill count is unmatched
wintry rampart
True
Tower of grey has killed over 300 people in one attack though
Which is the most we actually know about aside from the pillarmen
junior garnet
Again: this is Part 3. Later Parts have way bigger kill counts, but I can't mention them here
wintry rampart
I can only think of two that do (and are actual kills) but then again I haven't finished jojolion
storm grove
why is DIO in Egypt?
i've already watched Stardust Crusaders but i don't remember some details
how did Star Platinum get Jotaro trinkets? it's reach is only one meter
ocean mauve
It’s range is infinite
It just decreases in strength as speed as it goex
^^^^^^^head canon
^^^^^^^^^WARNING HEAD CANON
storm grove
https://youtu.be/2PM42uKqzfI?t=29 this track here reminds me of a Smash Bros. track
i can't remember which
it's on the tip of my tongue
also what you said doesn't work
storm grove
donezo
potent rivet
thank you
storm grove
oh, this doesn't sound like a Smash Bros track
https://youtu.be/UDJtsfR51To
i thought it sounded like this one
i guess it's the instrument
i came across an interesting theory
but does it count as spoilers? because this type of stand isn't present in Stardust Crusaders
if i must ask then i guess so.
this theory states that because Jotaro has no control over it, it acts as an ||automatic|| stand, with tons of range
solid bane
My theory is that the energy that it uses to manifest is only used for a hand. That way he gets much more range, but can't punch since it's only a hand.
Or idk really
storm grove
i find it funny the necessity for a healer in later parts
everyone just healed up magically in Part 3
wintry rampart
speedwagon foundation and magic regenerative abilities are how people heal in part 3.
pretty bs sometimes
wanton turret
@storm grove just to let you know, this server doesn't allow spoilers, even with the spoiler tag
potent rivet
What he means is you can't discuss later parts, not even using spoiler tags. So if you want to discuss anything pertaining to part 4, part 4 channel and up works. Greatly lowers the chance of spoilers slipping out and ruining aspects of the series to certain people.
Also, the speedwagon has regenerative abilities for the Joestar bank accounts
storm grove
i don't remember that
twin nexus
yeah i was under the impression star platinums reach is a lot longer when jotaros not controlling him
i read a fan theory awhile back that jotaro wasnt actually bluffing during the poker match and he got so stressed that star platinum went to grab him a drink which is why he was able to move out of the 1m range for juice lol
celest violet
Star Platinum cares for its user
weary turret
it's Star Platinum's incredible speed and ability to stop time. jotaro isn't aware of its ability but when it's not under control it's free to do whatever
solid bane
You mean star platinum can stop time by his own?
celest violet
Yes
weary turret
yeah just like how it can move around and pick up cans of beer and copies of shounen jump
dire sapphire
Ik. He has infinite range 😔
weary turret
it's an ability that affects things on a universal level... it's very powerful
keen dagger
If the world and starplatnium are the same stand. Does that mean the world has less precise movements and more time stop
And vice versa for star platinum
wanton turret
The World only has more timestop because it was trained so the duration got longer over use, and that DIO didn't need to worry about his stamina running out after consecutive timestop use because he's a vampire
burnt zodiac
He just.. never does
burnt zodiac
I doubt Joseph knows how to teach it and they never met another hamon user
main night
araki forgot
manic ledge
jotaro doesn't get hamon because hamon is just rare
there's only 1 in 10000 people that have the tolerance to learn how to use it
wanton turret
And apparently Jonathan, his daughter-in-law and his grandson had that, not to mention his grandson being like, beyond talented
What're the odds huh
manic ledge
actually it's stated that he could've used hamon
he just never got the training for it, but he had the potential
weary turret
ghostly ripple
wanton turret
Jotaro probs can't get hamon properly anyways, he smokes too much considering his party trick that apparently everyone in the team knows
main night
lisa lisa smokes as well
magic reef
lisa lisa
wanton turret
Don't think she did it at the level of jotaro
And lisalisa had her scarf to amplify her hamon
main night
wouldn't attribute everything to her scarf
the scarf just could transfer hamon as good as a direct hit from a hand
wanton turret
I thought she mentioned that it amplified it or something
manic ledge
no I'm pretty sure she said it's just a really good conductor
weary turret
no it just channels ripple easily
manic ledge
and just to back up what i said earlier
wanton turret
Ah
weary turret
it's the same thing as straits's scarf
wanton turret
Then I guess I'll just say that lisa lisa probably wasn't as heavy a smoker as jotaro
weary turret
straits used it to disperse an attacking ripple and lisa lisa used it to channel her own and use it as a weapon
it's the positive vs negative ripple deal
yeah he wasn't quite thinking straight
burnt zodiac
was that a pun
weary turret
:v
main night
honestly
burnt zodiac
Anyways I just assume Straizos scarf is a ground and not a conductor lol
weary turret
they're explicitly the exact same kind of scarf
burnt zodiac
damn wig ok
manic ledge
it was like his first day of being a vampire i guess
dio only did the freezing after like 2 weeks of vampirism
or actually, i think a bit longer
wanton turret
Straights was so good at vampirism he already got space ripper stingy eyes on his first day
Like hamon acting as some kind of safeguard for the lungs?
Honestly, could work
supple warren
and we all know that lungs are important to ripple users
safe gazelle
Wait...
If the ripple focuses on breath
Does than mean if you're choking you can't use any techniques?
magic reef
that was a major element in the part 1 fight against tarkus
so yes
you also can't use it under water for example
safe gazelle
Damn, My memory is really bad
main night
aren't stands like a direct upgrade to hamon
magic reef
they were and then that was retconned out
then it was retconned back in partially but that's like a billion parts ahead
main night
Mfw
magic reef
yeah I know jonathon did
supple warren
you just need to find a way to breath underwater
magic reef
because water conducts it better but yeah ^
safe gazelle
The only real Hamon use in Part 3 was when Joseph used Hamon Overdrive to destroy flesh buds
main night
water conducts electricity as well
but we saw what happened to red hot chilli pepper
hamon wouldn't work so well in a pool of water
magic reef
part 3 stardust crusaders
main night
yeah the thread is about stardust crusaders
safe gazelle
Wasn't Hermit Purple supposed to be the "Hamon Stand" or was that just a fan theory
main night
but aren't you talking about jonathan and vampire fights
magic reef
hamon is canonically said to work really well underwater
and has been used underwater in part 1
potent rivet
the only fan theory ive heard about hermit purple that made sense was that Joseph always had it and its how he pulled the "your next line trick" subconciously
Your next line is going to be "yeah but he didn't need hermit purple in part 3 to do the same"
magic reef
yeah but he didn't need hermit purple in part 3 to do the same
potent rivet
maybe its a passive ability
safe gazelle
Could he use Hermit Purple and wrap it around someone using it as a whip then conduct Hamon through it?
manic ledge
yes
main night
yes
magic reef
didn't he do that?
manic ledge
he would have if dio didn't break it lol
safe gazelle
How do you break a stand?
potent rivet
No mentioning of future parts, or things that haven't happened yet, not even vague hints.
manic ledge
stands also crack, which is shown in part 3
potent rivet
the guy who mentioned the part 4 stand above. He did something similar in the new episode discussion too
safe gazelle
Did he mention part 4 there or a future part?
main night
if you mean me, please tell me what similar thing I did in new episode discussion
magic reef
ahhhhhhhhhh I retract my argument
safe gazelle
I will stand by the fact that Hol Horse is one of the best characters in JoJo
They'd have to pump his blood full of Hamon I believe
main night
disposal
safe gazelle
To purge the blood of DIO
main night
dio's head got blown when he died
and he could regenerate from jonathan's body
his blood cells could restore everything with time
safe gazelle
That's why you gotta purge than with Hamon
magic reef
or just leave it in the sun
main night
oh right
can't bury jonathan's body if it was turned enough to burn to a crisp in the sun
safe gazelle
I mean you gotta respect the man who is now your body
main night
don't think there was anything left from jonathan's head after that explosion and fire
safe gazelle
Headcanon though
solid bane
Skull maybe
safe gazelle
Not entirely accurate
potent rivet
I don't think that ship had any canons though
safe gazelle
How did Jonathan's body not get destroyed in the explosion
He was right by explosives
main night
dio asspulled a second coffin
safe gazelle
I not it's a retcon but how did Dio chop off Jonathan's head, attach his head to Jonathan's body and make it into a coffin.
Part 3 has so many ass pulls
main night
erina is a maid not a powerlifter to lift a nearly two meter guy full of meat
yeah
wait
no
she treated jonathan's wounds
safe gazelle
Not to mention quick enough to make it into a coffin in time
safe gazelle
Part 1's ending and part 3's beginning make no sense when compared
I mean it was 1880 if you're sick you're probably gonna die of polio
Either way Erika couldn't have brought Jonathan in the coffin
magic reef
Erina can bench 200kg
safe gazelle
Not strong enough to lift Jonathan with Dio's head into a coffin before the ship exploded
But Jonathan is a big boi
magic reef
headcanon that erina can OHP Jonathan through sheer force of will
safe gazelle
She got fisted with his consecutive beato, SUNLIGHT YELLOW OVERDRIVE!!!!
solid bane
More like sunlight white overdrive amirite fellas