When you're about to die though it seems like a good resort. Especially if Jotaro stops time and gives you a period to recover.
#stardust-crusaders
coarse ridge
open merlin
this season imo isnt as good as battle tendency so far
every episode a new stand user trying to defeat them
im just watching for the fight against dio
wintry rampart
pretty much how SC goes
some decent fights though
but pretty boring and dragged out
open merlin
im like 10 episodes in and its the same thing every episode
is that why people say its the worst jojo season
wanton turret
Part1 is rushed, part3 is dragged
open merlin
part one atleast explained the characters
episode 1 and 2 of sdc was great but it just went down from there
wanton turret
Like with how bruford and tarkus were given like, a short snippet of who they were before they died? Yeah that's pretty cool
open merlin
does sdc do anything like that?
wanton turret
Hmmm, not really, kinda no
open merlin
also if joesph beat kars can he not defeat dio?
wanton turret
I can like, only think of a handful from the 20someones that they fight against to actually have some background
Joseph got help from the volcano and pure luck
wintry rampart
without spoiling much. for the most part in SC every villain just follows Dio. They don't really get backstory or anything other than them serving Dio. There is some short-ish character arcs though related to characters like Polnareff which you have seen
open merlin
its going to be rough but i will try and complete this season
wintry rampart
took me a month to watch it. even at that I don't recommend skipping eps.
if you ever decide to that is
open merlin
ill try watching another 10 episodes tomorrow
near starBOT
@open merlin, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
open merlin
ok so if i watch another 4 episodes today i just need to watch another 10 tomorrow so that is 24 mins every episode and the op is 1 min and 30 seconds so 10 episodes = 240 minutes minus 1 min and 30 seconds from each the intros all together are 13 minutes so 240 minus 13 is 227 minutes i need to watch tomorrow which equates to 3.78 hours
magic reef
it shouldn't be looked down upon if you skip the tarot card fights in part 3 don't @ me
wanton turret
Even the ova did it
jagged maple
The only episodes that felt like a drag to me were Dark Blue Moon and Hol Horse and Boingo
wanton turret
Araki really bit more than he could chew when he went from 4 enemies to 15+ cuz a whole lot of the fights just seemed, simple, or dumb in my imo
But somehow he added 10 more and they're like ???? How can they be so good
celest violet
Stardust Crusaders fights should never be skipped
Expect the monkey fight
That one is the worst Jojo battle of all time
weary turret
Divine Set is right there
but no i'd argue that the Strength fight is important
it's the first real fight where you see that stands really can be anything
and so can stand users
wanton turret
Your stand is purple vines? Understandable. A stag beetle? Even avdol has a bird guy stand. A giant metal cruise vessel? Real shit.
weary turret
^
celest violet
Iggy did not do much
wanton turret
Yeah iggy just had 2 battles, but at least he had a more interesting personality
Which is chewing hair, eating gum, and farting
wanton turret
2, horus/petshop and a shared battle against vanilla ice
They both did considerable stuff during vanilla ice, so I'd say iggy's part of that too
wanton turret
Yeah he does, but at least he actually did stuff against Ice
jagged maple
Iggy was bad until the Petshop fight
wanton turret
Sgsjsghsh
And iggy is good, he had personality even though he didn't do much before petshop
celest violet
Iggy has a better design in the end
jagged maple
Iggy was one of my favourite characters
celest violet
Danny was the best dog
jagged maple
That's a strange way of spelling Polnareff
weary turret
iggy contributed a fair bit though
jagged maple
Have you heard dub Iggy?
celest violet
Yes
weary turret
even if it was mostly by accident
celest violet
It’s bad
celest violet
Dogs: Woof Woof
Other Dogs: Waaf Waaf
Iggy: Who the hell does this guy think he is,Bruce Lee?!
worthy cedar
Iggy doesnt speak thats just him thinking
wintry rampart
vagrant pilot
I just wanna question why every ebay listing for cels from the stardust crusaders OVA has to have hentai shit in the reccomendations, it really pisses me off tbh
junior garnet
Because only men of true culture watch the OVA
wintry rampart
wanton turret
D :
wanton turret
He is beauty
vagrant pilot
Besides, the OVA is older, and we all know he just gets better with age.
I concede though that this makes manga joseph the most superior
wintry rampart
Avdol, a man so nice you had to kill him twice
keen dagger
Iggy deserved more screen time and fights
wintry rampart
Yeah iggy didnt start fighting till the hawk really
imagine if
joseph was the one who got star plat
and was just hitting everything with hamon infused star platinum punches
keen dagger
No joke when i thought polnareff was gonna die from cream. I cried, but for some reason. Not with the other characters deaths
wintry rampart
understandable, you thought your favorite character was gonna die, ofc that would emotionally cripple you
heh
keen dagger
Oh god...
vagrant pilot
Am I the only one who thinks Iggy's second design just looks so wrong
It just puts me off somehow
wintry rampart
I like izzy with the slanted eyes
keen dagger
I think its weird that he has a human like face
near starBOT
@keen dagger, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
vagrant pilot
The OVA had iggy's non-human like design all the way through and it worked imo
keen dagger
And that his design changed out of the blue
wintry rampart
polnareff have you started part 4 yet?
keen dagger
No. Im gonna take a break, my freind wants me to wait 4 him. Hes on ep 2 of part 3
keen dagger
Just now
potent rivet
friends suck sometimes
vagrant pilot
I quit watching the anime and decided to collect/read the hardcovers
wintry rampart
one is at the beginning of part 3
vagrant pilot
@wintry rampart absolutely uncanny valley
keen dagger
But hey. Since i finished part 3. I can finally play heritage for the future. Just need to build my arcade cabinet
potent rivet
I watched all the anime then started the mangas. Hoping to read the LVs next
wintry rampart
I prefer the anime for the soundtracks and making the fights cooler
but I still read the manga
potent rivet
ya, esecially during part 3. the OSTs are great
wintry rampart
Kakyoin's ost 👌
potent rivet
that bass beat before battles is amazing
wintry rampart
Avdol's ost had me so hype too
vagrant pilot
I like the '93 OVA a lot better for animation, so when you combine that with the manga it's the ideal adaptation IMO because though it doesn't adapt everything, what it does adapt is spectacular
It's great that we have both now though
keen dagger
I never watched the ova
vagrant pilot
Which is more than we can say for poor Phantom Blood.
Your pfp is from the ova thoug hwhfwhfpwf
keen dagger
Does it change the plot
potent rivet
really liked the sound effects during the Judgement fight too. HAIL 2 U
keen dagger
Ik that
vagrant pilot
The OVA is very considerably condensed but follows basically the same plot
wintry rampart
2:00 is what got me so hyped every time avdol did something
vagrant pilot
The animation is much higher budget and the sound design is excellent, being done by Skywalker Sound
keen dagger
I just saw ova polnareff and was like... yep hes my pfp
ornate merlin
vagrant pilot
Why would you put anime audio over the OVA what the fuck
Half the fun of the OVA is the sound design
potent rivet
holy fuck I knew I had seen JoJo way before it got nimated in recent years
vagrant pilot
I feel violated by knowing that exists
ornate merlin
It’s only the voice actors
potent rivet
thats it
vagrant pilot
still, plastering the voices comes with the SFX underneath it
keen dagger
vagrant pilot
The OVA order is a bit weird. They adapted the second half of Part 3 first, then the first part which had a blander appearance. Then they made a movie of Part 1
wintry rampart
unpopular opinion : I like part 1 a lot actually
vagrant pilot
The dub for the OVAs wasn't very good. Part of it is how the script for the sub and dub is really, really close in places, not giving any consideration to what sounds natural when spoken aloud in english
keen dagger
Polnareff sounds weird in the ova
vagrant pilot
The VA for Dio does the fastest MUDAs of any Dio though. This is because he's a beatboxer.
wintry rampart
everyone sounds weird in the OVA
vagrant pilot
Definitely watch the OVA subbed though
Damn iggy's death in the OVA is a gut punch
keen dagger
I saw a gif of it. Its more depressing compared to the anime
The battle with cream is sad
wintry rampart
I gotta wonder if araki planned ahead when choosing to leave polnareff alive
potent rivet
the oraoraoraora in the ova is on point though
hallow iris
I love cream
vagrant pilot
I believe Araki once said something like people often misinterpret the speed of Star Platinum, and that the punches are slower and more weighty than usually depicted
I can't get a quote though
wintry rampart
"Vanilla Ice" cream
keen dagger
Polnareff does kinda look like vanilla ice (the rapper)
potent rivet
Jotaro gives off more of a vanilla ice vibe than polnareff
vagrant pilot
Of course, it's tough to judge
keen dagger
vagrant pilot
That's not to say they're slow, just slower than usually depicted
hallow iris
vanilla ice ova has better colors then anime just saying sjjsjsjfjf I like it more
potent rivet
Polnareff looks like his grandfather
vagrant pilot
I recall he at least has some jump magazine in the anime, it might be generic tho
vagrant pilot
I know the hardcovers of parts 1-3 are shonen jump branded, at least the english editions
Product placement!
keen dagger
Is that what dio looks like in the ova
potent rivet
glorious
vagrant pilot
I've always loved this cel of Dio
If you have anywhere from 50-400 bucks to blow, cels from the OVA show up all the time on ebay
Quite often, backgrounds are included.
Seeing the cels makes me really hope the OVAs are able to be remastered, and weren't captured on videotape only
potent rivet
or you could buy a fuckton of knives and be DIO
vagrant pilot
I mean you can at least have an iggy lives AU if you play 7th stand user
very extensive fan rpg where you can influence the way part 3 ends
keen dagger
Iggys sacrifice... nan im still sad about him
keen dagger
I kust want iggy to be alive
vagrant pilot
I believe the ending you get also changes based on your stand ( since your stand is chosen based upon personality test )
Apparently I got one of the shittiest stands
which is a big oof
'You are antisocial and have trouble fitting in. However, you are honest and don't put on a show of yourself for others. You have a lot of self-loathing and a bit of a persecution complex. You hate the things you don't understand, and take things as fact without looking into them. However, when it comes to protecting your loved ones, you can accomplish tremendous feats of strength'
That's what it told me about myself and 99 percent of that is unflattering, with the last part being blatantly untrue of me lol
keen dagger
What stand did u get
vagrant pilot
What, does shipping happen with female only?
I got Miracles
Because a jojo fangame that denies gay shit is ridiculous
keen dagger
I assume its a part 4 or 5 stand
vagrant pilot
what was it?
Also, it seems two of the possible player sprites you can choose in 7th stand user are literally just josuke and koichi
From part 4, which is weird
keen dagger
Whats up with polnareff as a turtle
ornate merlin
That comes from bad translations of the manga
vagrant pilot
Kakyoin, did you lay this subplot?
wanton turret
That comes from an inside joke in part 3 that's too hard to explain 😉 @keen dagger
keen dagger
Pls explain
ornate merlin
It’s too hard to
wanton turret
Also didn't you already ask this same question in parts 1-4??
vagrant pilot
"may have"
literally the most famous unofficial jojo fanfiction
no shit it did lol
iirc there's a gif where Araki is shown that story
vagrant pilot
@keen dagger some people would say jorge joestar and the like
that's the gif I mean
rose hinge
Araki pls support jotokak
near starBOT
@rose hinge, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
keen dagger
rose hinge
"baby stand"
vagrant pilot
what came first, the stand or the egg
keen dagger
Idk much about part 5 but why does king crimson look weird
ornate merlin
Don’t talk about later parts here
vagrant pilot
This is all part 3 tho?
keen dagger
Oh. My bad
rose hinge
hyperspeed rero
vagrant pilot
Oh nvm I just saw
- that's literally me whenever I get my hands on cherries
one of my favourite fruits
keen dagger
I love cherry flavored things
vagrant pilot
My other favourite fruit? Kiwi. But only with the peel.
keen dagger
Pie. Candies. Icecream. Etc
vagrant pilot
The peel is oddly the best part.
rose hinge
except like...as candy
potent rivet
same with a banana
vagrant pilot
Not for the hairiness, but the taste
potent rivet
and melons
rose hinge
besides cantaloupe bc I slipped on one in third grade and blacked out in the cafeteria
potent rivet
I once ate a chocolate with the wrapper on and the added layers of flavour were sublime
vagrant pilot
No i'm not even joking the kiwi peel tastes hella good
near starBOT
@vagrant pilot, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !
vagrant pilot
it has this tanginess to it
potent rivet
I like to walk to my kitchen, grab a bowl, pour some milk in it, then add cereal and eat.
vagrant pilot
see? my appreciation of kiwi peels has empowered my stan
keen dagger
How can u tell you have a shitty obsession with a caracther
vagrant pilot
for a minute i read that as cathater
potent rivet
you change your name and pfp to it
vagrant pilot
and I was very concerned
potent rivet
and I did too
keen dagger
Oh fuck
vagrant pilot
Jojo's Bizarre Urinary Device
potent rivet
I wonder If Joseph had to use one after the Kars fight
vagrant pilot
Has a stinky non-vampire body so has to have it pumped in through his neck
keen dagger
How does kakyoin lay an egg
vagrant pilot
No idea
keen dagger
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT
vagrant pilot
Dio's dub actor is named Kid Beyond
I miss the score from the OVA/PB Movie, it sounded a bit cheap due to all being synthesized sorta samples in the OVAs but the compositions themselves were actually really good and not just standard anime BGM. The movie score was done with a full orchestra and will be fantastic to hear in full if it's released like I hope it'll be.
I'd love to see an orchestrated recording of the OVA soundtrack mainly, that'd be fantastic.
Wow, you're not kidding, it is charles martinet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZjQeG7IsQE
I can actually hear a bit of mario/luigi kinda voice in the performance
keen dagger
Hftf looks so fun.
vagrant pilot
There used to be a port for 360/PS3 but they delisted it
Because Bandai has the licence for Jojo and doesn't wanna share with Capcom
potent rivet
Classic Bandai
keen dagger
Im playing it on retropie via arcade cabinet
Just need to order the parts
I have the exterior
vagrant pilot
I never saw much about a lawsuit, just a regular ol' 'capcom doesn't own the licence anymore, let's delist'
Was HFTF the first piece of Jojo media to make it stateside?
worthy cedar
ah well
keen dagger
How do i get over kakyoins death
potent rivet
Ask Polnareff
keen dagger
Aslong as polnareff is alive. Im happy
sacred socket
I'm starting SC, can't wait to see what comes of it
keen dagger
Enjoy
sacred socket
Did he just scream at his mother and she accepted it!?!
near starBOT
@sacred socket, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
potent rivet
He's a real man
keen dagger
@sacred socket get out of this chatroom. You will be spoiled
potent rivet
But yeah, this chat can be filled with spoilers. So it's dangerous
keen dagger
Yea. Same with jojokes
potent rivet
If you do want to talk about things and aren't done yet, feel free to come in and mention the part you're at and people should be kind enough not to spoil. but It's still a risk
keen dagger
https://youtu.be/oG7jKUHsLfY this fucking song. It makes me sad
potent rivet
How JoJo keeps reinventing itself and staying fresh
All your questions will be answered by watching more of it
sacred socket
is this what people call a stand?
potent rivet
Yes.
sacred socket
Oh my
keen dagger
Get ready
sacred socket
dio is still alive omg
keen dagger
Part 3 is like 48 episodes
vagrant pilot
There's also an earlier and shorter adaptation of part 3, but it won't blend well with the anime and shouldn't be watched unless you've already watched/read stardust crusaders before
The final fight from the 1993 adaptation is really good though and I reccommend seeking it out after you finish season 2 and 3 of the anime
vagrant pilot
Yeah. The dub is truly bad, and is best watched only for laughs
It's also tough to get the final 3 dvds legitimately as they were recalled shortly after they debuted
keen dagger
Yea || iggys death was way more sad in the ova|| late part 3 stuff
vagrant pilot
In fact the entire company that dubbed the earlier adaptation went out of business not long after recalling the DVDs, which meant the part 1 movie never had a dub put into production (it took the OVAs three years after concluding to get a dub, and that was one year after the movie(
keen dagger
Oof
vagrant pilot
Yep.
keen dagger
But hey. Atleast theres good pfp material
sacred socket
manz got a pen in his eye
vagrant pilot
You watching it censored or uncensored?
supple warren
vagrant pilot
The most hilarious censor (not spoilers) is they censor Jotaro smoking because he's under the japanese smoking age
wintry rampart
LOL
wintry rampart
i had always wondered why the gore was blackened
potent rivet
thats about as efficient as blurring out genitals
wintry rampart
TIL
potent rivet
Japan sure is great at censors.
wintry rampart
and yeah, in that shot the ciggie and smoke is clearly visible cmon now
viscid quartz
That’s about as bad as Yu-Gi-Oh removing guns so people had finger guns instead
vagrant pilot
TV versions of anime usually have three differences: The animation is less polished, certain things are blacked out, and action scenes are dimmed due to epilepsy concerns
It was really fucking brief but 4kids put out an uncut dub of Yu-Gi-Oh, guns and all
viscid quartz
Normal footage? What is this heresy 
vagrant pilot
They dubbed (allegedly) up to the big final duel in season 1, but only released 9 episodes
They dubbed 12 for sure as the fourth DVD got so far as an amazon listing with final cover
potent rivet
that series is so cringy and poorly written and the dub makes it all even more noticeable
viscid quartz
My childhood 
vagrant pilot
I'd argue the first two seasons plus non-filler part of season 3 is fine
But in Japanese mainly. The manga is for sure better anyways
potent rivet
idk what a season of it is
potent rivet
but if you look at the bakura vs marik fight, its absolute shit.
vagrant pilot
Yeah, the anime was seriously held back by being an ad for the card game
junior garnet
tbf
vagrant pilot
The rules in the manga are totally different to the real life card game and it makes it a clusterfuck
junior garnet
The manga, starting withh duelist kingdom, was also all about the card game
potent rivet
"I have all the cards I need to beat you, the best strategy, but I'm gonna waste my cards, and play everything wrong because plot says you need to win"
vagrant pilot
trying to adapt it to the real life rules just doesn't work
junior garnet
However, Duelist Kingdom does not follow the rules at all
Everything after that does
potent rivet
children could play better than most of these "top duelists"
vagrant pilot
@junior garnet The main thing is the manga only did three major arcs after switching to all-cardgames
Which was fine IMO
Anime has lots of filler
viscid quartz
I always remember Twitch Chat freaking the fuck out and screaming “Rules?!” whenever shit happened
Good times
vagrant pilot
Is is not counting Yu-Gi-Oh R
potent rivet
Was Bakura vs Marik filler?
vagrant pilot
The anime is mostly good for cheesy and ironic stuff
@potent rivet The filler stuff is: The two VR arcs, the entirety of season 4, and the tournament thingy in season 5
potent rivet
just googled it. It's not. So that poor writing, poor planning ahead and plot armor is probably persistent through out the entire manga and this being card games, its even more noticeable.
vagrant pilot
The tournament filler is particularly badly animated iirc
junior garnet
Season 4 goes so off-model
vagrant pilot
Manga is different in many areas is the thing, and the rules were way, way different.
Even after season 1, the anime struggles in a lot of ways to make the results the same as the manga using real life card stats
Plus the manga sort of has a reason for card games being so apparently important, that being that any game can be played to wager souls and shit, they just always used card games after the first 7 volumes
But anyhow.
This is stardust crusaders chat so we may wanna take it somewhere else, or move back on the Jojo discussion
As for the censorship in Jojo, last time I checked Crunchyroll's stardust crusaders was censored
solid bane
👍
potent rivet
It's because smoking bad
harassment of girls has a chance of leading to more children and they're in need of that
viscid quartz
vagrant pilot
Japanese society:
"Smoking is badass!"
Also Japanese society:
"HE'S DONE WEED WE NEEDA LOCK HIM UP FOR LIFE"
I recall an actor from the Yakuza games a while back got removed from a game over vague accusations of using drugs, and the same thing happened again with a recent spinoff
Very touchy subject over there.
potent rivet
Yeah. People like to believe what they're told. Also being compliant
It is weird, especially considering the amount of cigarettes older generations can smoke in a day
or the amount of alcohol that people can go through there
vagrant pilot
For all Japan gets hyped up, there's a reason depression and suicide is such a big problem there.
wheat gazelle
yugioh > jojo
celest violet
N O
rose hinge
UM
vagrant pilot
I like both but nah
celest violet
He probably mixed them up
wheat gazelle
nope yugioh >>>>>>>jojo
at least the first one with the pharaoh. That one's awesome in dub I rewatch yearly
celest violet
This ain’t chief
wintry rampart
no comprendo
wintry rampart
wintry rampart
Question - has someone done something similar to this
so I know if to continue or stop dead in my tracks
worthy cedar
This is sinful
wintry rampart
hey I'm not up for skipping episodes either but I'd rather someone skip some episodes and watch the show than just not watch it entirely
worthy cedar
Sone people rather watch the entirety of jojo broski
wintry rampart
yea I kno man
i'm one o those
@wintry rampart Let's say there's a show you heard gets really good in the later parts
but the start is really bad
so you'd ask if you can skip something because you aren't enjoying it
worthy cedar
I endured it and kept watching
wintry rampart
(playing devil's advocate here, so we're clear)
worthy cedar
wintry rampart
@worthy cedar i know mate
but I have a bunch of friends who just gave up because a lot of it was filler
but cause parts 4 and 5 are much better
they should keep watching
yea that
keen dagger
Jojo is one of the only animes i got far in
It never got boring
Overrated opinion
Part 3 is the best part
cobalt coyote
Agree
keen dagger
Who is the best stardust crusader
potent rivet
Joseph
coarse ridge
Polnareff
coarse ridge
Joseph is great though
wintry rampart
yessssssssssssssss
potent rivet
that moment was gold
keen dagger
Power wise. Jotaro
potent rivet
I don't think I'll ever tire myself from hearing all the Oraoraoroaoraoaoraoraoraoraoraoraora ORAAAAAAA
wintry rampart
Rero>Ora
potent rivet
Same with Joseph's Engrish. It was all great
keen dagger
When u hear the music, u know shits getting real
coarse ridge
I want a spin off series where Anubis won and we just see his life as a sword
wintry rampart
so polnareff during part 4?
coarse ridge
Requiem is one of my favourite SC OSTs
potent rivet
no discussing anything beyond part 3 in here.
potent rivet
all good. thanks for deleting it so quickly
wintry rampart
worst part of reading the manga is not being able to listen to the ost ;-;
north obsidian
Ye good job on that
coarse ridge
Best SC stand?
north obsidian
Emperor lol
coarse ridge
Emperor is cool and very overpowered
north obsidian
I like the emperor cuz of hol horse
keen dagger
Hol horse is the polnareff of villians
coarse ridge
Yeah Hol Horse is amazing
north obsidian
I always liked his interactions with oingo in that arc
keen dagger
Judgement didnt make polnareffland so he sucks
north obsidian
I'll gladly take a trip to polnareffland
potent rivet
polnareffland is gone. It was Notre Dame
coarse ridge
Based on stands alone however, Death and Set are the coolest imo
keen dagger
I want to be a comic artist. That was always my dream since i was a kid. And dont make me some pathetic one either. I wanna be bigger than disney. Infacr, someday ill build my own polnareff land
Its sad that i memorized that part
coarse ridge
I feel like Arakis newest character should be a dog called Zeppeli and make it so it survives
wintry rampart
🤔
coarse ridge
Just to mess with people
wintry rampart
lmao
keen dagger
Ood
wintry rampart
Part 9 MC ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
wintry rampart
imagine if araki made a side story that was just part 1 but with dogs lmao
potent rivet
nah. Italian Greyhound
keen dagger
But what would danny be
noble condor
Sc should have been 1 season
noble condor
2 was too much it fucked the pacing up
wintry rampart
then read the manga
coarse ridge
That's not the animes fault
near starBOT
@keen dagger, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !
coarse ridge
They follow closely to the manga
potent rivet
Your stando powah has increased. Impressive
coarse ridge
Arakis pacing hadn't developed at that point
wintry rampart
makes sense
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
coarse ridge
Apologies
coarse ridge
I said something in the wrong chat, don't know if anyone saw
near starBOT
@coarse ridge, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
potent rivet
everyone's leveling up
keen dagger
Besides u
noble condor
So
keen dagger
🇱
noble condor
The pacing of the manga is the same as the animes?
weary turret
no
k
that's why the dub will never live up to the original
no english names which are usually cultural references being yelled out in japanese
junior garnet
Have you heard the test footage of Patrick Seitz going "ora ora ora"?
Basically, he's saying "muda muda muda" as if it were "ora ora ora"
When the two are said completely differently
That's why it sounds weird
vagrant pilot
I don't think the engrish is at all necessary. The dub just needed to match the enthusiasm, which I don't think they achieved.
rose hinge
build up is 💦 💦
vagrant pilot
By the way, what the fuck are the things on the sides of d'arby's face?
rose hinge
airport conveyor belts
potent rivet
I figured it was to give them an egyptian vibe
keen dagger
I thought it was like cyborg stuff
rose hinge
who hasn't it bugged
keen dagger
Non jojo fans
rose hinge
so plebs
keen dagger
Yea
keen dagger
Ohhhhhh
vagrant pilot
Yeah, thanks.
I noticed something cool as shit when looking through google images today
keen dagger
If u could kill off and revive one pt 3 sc, who would it be
potent rivet
It makes more sense on DIO's butler than the gambler though. Araki probably added it to D'arby the gambler after the fact to make it clear they're related
vagrant pilot
Dio's pose here in the OVA using The World is the same as the pose when he became a vampire
Oh, and that's a good question
keen dagger
Personally. Id kill off joseph and revive kakyoin
keen dagger
Well i cant do my homeboy polnareff
rose hinge
you
vagrant pilot
KILL POLNAREFF TO BRING IGGY BACK
rose hinge
ok fuck Iggy
vagrant pilot
You heartless bastard HE'S A DOG
rose hinge
an annoying dog*
keen dagger
Iggy didnt have much screentime
vagrant pilot
Not if you watch the superior OVA experience
keen dagger
That question was a mistake
vagrant pilot
Look at this good, pure boy
rose hinge
oh my shit
keen dagger
OH GOD HE HAS AIRPODS
keen dagger
HE CANT HEAR US OH FUCK
vagrant pilot
OH MY GOD
keen dagger
God its more sadder in the ova
vagrant pilot
Yep
rose hinge
oh shit he got demolished
vagrant pilot
It's worse because the OVA keeps iggy as a normal dog with no redesigned face or talking
So it's like, this poor boy didn't deserve this
keen dagger
He died to save my homeboy. F
rose hinge
just deserts
potent rivet
It's no different than a pimp defending one of his girls.
vagrant pilot
He got his just desserts from vanilla ice & cream 
keen dagger
Prove to me polnareff isnt the best sc
vagrant pilot
Not even relevant
Just edge for the sake of edge smh
What are exclamation marks supposed to mean anyways? Reaction wise
potent rivet
that you got caught
rose hinge
I just use it as like, I agree/emphasizing
rose hinge
what have you seen?👀
wintry rampart
Polnareff isn't the best. But I cannot think of a reason why he is bad, besides him being dumb sometimes. And every time he tried to go to the toilet a stand battle happens 🤔
vagrant pilot
Usually for agreeance I see this used
potent rivet
the toilet parts were great
rose hinge
too hasty
wintry rampart
toilet parts were really toilet humour and weren't funny (humour is subjective yada yada but I didn't like it). He's okay and he did get an arc so I can't say much about him
rose hinge
@vagrant pilot I blame being Apple scum/text modifiers
he did have some sweet sweet character development 💦
vagrant pilot
Lol
I haven't properly gone thru part 3 in full so idk the toilet scenes
I just saw the pig one though, oh my goodness
wintry rampart
Kakoyin final battle was cool and vs death 13. Otherwise he is bland and boring. Avdol, nothing at all really. He simply existed to lead them to Egypt. Polnareff got an arc, he was aight. I liked young Joseph more than old Joseph but it was nice to see him return. Iggy kinda got an arc where he changed from being a tsundere and started to care. Jotaro is pretty bland but I didn't really mind that for reasons. SC did make some good memes though but the characters weren't anywhere near as strong as other parts.
potent rivet
Jotaro's awesome in JumpForce
rose hinge
I kinda wish Joseph did more "your next line" ...😬 👀
potent rivet
If you're into the series that are featured in the game, ya. I'd wait until It's on discount though. I don't think there's any anime/manga game that's worth full price
vagrant pilot
The friggin face
@potent rivet Heritage for the future disagrees
That game was about as good as any fighting game out there
potent rivet
I meant more in recent years. Anything from the last generation & current gen of consoles.
not 20 years ago. lol
It's fun, ya. But I dislike how a lot ofthose games have an online focus that feels kinda tacked on.
On topic, I like the theory that Joseph always had Hermit Purple, and that it was how he was doing the "your next line" trick.
celest violet
We need a new 2D JoJo game that is balanced!😤
rose hinge
omgeee
vagrant pilot
I mean not every jojo thing gets loved sadly
To be honest it's a bit depressing how little most fans care about anything pre-anime
celest violet
EOH story mode wasn’t anything special to be honest with you
vagrant pilot
It seems the big influx of anime fans by and large only care for the anime
junior garnet
^
vagrant pilot
I like them all.
junior garnet
A lot of anime fans refuse to read manga
Just n general, not Jojo
A friend of mine watched Soul Eater a long time ago
And I wanted him to read the manga
BUt he doesn't like manga
vagrant pilot
Like if even a quarter of fans asked for the PB movie we'd have enough demand for an official release I'd bet
celest violet
Manga are great
vagrant pilot
Same for an OVA re-release
vagrant pilot
We barely got the manga until 2015 as well
celest violet
Bless that man then
junior garnet
So hopefully I can get him to read the infinitely better Soul Eater story
vagrant pilot
Soul eater i liked until the ending and it was like "what the fuck is this? You call this an ending?"
junior garnet
Anime or manga?
junior garnet
Yeah
||The final fight against Asura was shit||
It was all so rushed
||And also Death City Robot||
wintry rampart
it requires a lot less attention to watch an anime compared to reading a manga. That's why I think less people tend to read stuff like jojo
celest violet
It’s difficult to decide...
vagrant pilot
Plus it feels like they cut an episode and put the remnants in the end credits
The second seasin is 1 episode short of the usual 13 eps iirc
To be fair the manga starts off rough
junior garnet
Tbf, not the first time Bones did that
celest violet
Wait are you guys talking about Soul Eater?
vagrant pilot
Briefly
junior garnet
They also did it with FMA 2003
vagrant pilot
How so?
junior garnet
And they've done it with a lot of anime
vagrant pilot
Also FMA 2003 is good tho
junior garnet
Having 51 episodes instead of 52
I liked FMA 2003
But Arakawa's story is much better
junior garnet
Plus, a lot of animes have 12 episode seasons rather than 13
She did like 2003
A lot of people love 2003
I think the ending and CoS were bad, though
It felt super good up until the ending arc was really rushed
vagrant pilot
But as for the manga, the main issue is that although the story and characters are good, the execution starts off rather poor
junior garnet
The stray cat thing is from Omakes and Yonkomas
vagrant pilot
The nice thing about FMA '03 is instead of using filler (only once) or halfassing it, it full-asses its own story
junior garnet
Same with TINY MINISKIRTS
vagrant pilot
Lol
junior garnet
It depends on how you define filler
vagrant pilot
Filler can be good if they don't interrupt a big arc and if it's good
celest violet
#memes-and-images please
junior garnet
I think filler is "anything major that happens that never gets brought up again or has ramifications"
vagrant pilot
I'm glad jojo never had to do filler in any of its adaptations tho
In fact the opposite happened with the OVAs
junior garnet
Because they waited until the 25th anniversary to start the anime
celest violet
There are some filler scenes and on VA though
vagrant pilot
In fact every adaptation started after the manga version was completed
Wait why tf would golden wind have filler?
It's been done for ages
junior garnet
I always prefer shorter self-contained stories
vagrant pilot
As much as I love the OVA i still agree the manga or anime is best to watch/read firsr
junior garnet
Which is why things like One Piece and Hunter X Hunter don't appeal to me
celest violet
“Cough”One Piece and Naruto “Cough”
junior garnet
Fun fact
vagrant pilot
I don't like One Piece as an anime but I love it as a manga
celest violet
Hunter x Hunter doesn’t have filler
junior garnet
Though, tbf, this was like 6 years ago
vagrant pilot
I read some in high school and I too remember nothing
junior garnet
I also read the first ~60 volumes of Bleach, I think?
I remember vague stuff up through Deicide
And nothing after
vagrant pilot
I need to save up for more of the hardcover manga
It does depend. I think a TV show isn't nearly as good a format for long runners as comics
junior garnet
coughcougchborutocoughcough
junior garnet
I've heard that the One Piece manga is much better
But the anime would probably not be dogshit if they did something like what Bones does with MHA
vagrant pilot
It fucking is.
junior garnet
Instead of covering less than a chapter each episode
vagrant pilot
Yep
junior garnet
We moving to off topic?
vagrant pilot
For the non SC discussion yeah
I just wish the anime had been more polished
Part 1 has it the worst but up to SC has problems with fluidity and motion imo
junior garnet
I'm so upset that Netflix has the TV version of Parts 1 and 2 rather than the Blu Ray
vagrant pilot
Part 1 probablynhas it the worst because it's slavishly faithful to the original panels. The problem is Phantom Blood's art is kinda shit
@junior garnet The subs are also dubtitles
junior garnet
"kinda" shit
Where's that last time we see Zepelli
Dubtitling is weird
Like
Dio goes "bye bye" in English
And the subs are just like
"ciao"
vagrant pilot
I dunno why they couldn't do the engrish in english
I think they really can, they just need to be okay with hamming it up
vagrant pilot
The mispronunciation to me isn't the appeal of say joseph's engrish
It's how he just goes for it full force
vagrant pilot
HORY SHETTTTT
rose hinge
HOLY SHIIIT
celest violet
SERECT UR KUR
junior garnet
Became ONCE MORE, THE WORLD!
vagrant pilot
ERF MAYGAH
potent rivet
How Hollys name was picked "Mr & Misses Joestar, It's a girl!"
Joseph: HOOOOLY SHi-"
Suzie Q: "I love the name Holly!"
junior garnet
"Serect your kur"
They have to match lip flaps
Do your lips continuously move while you say "woooooorld"
It's why people think about matching syllables
junior garnet
Like "Watashi wa Eru" (6 syllables) means I am L
rose hinge
the woo :O ooo :o ooo :0 rld
junior garnet
To match the 6 syllables, the dub says "I'm the one known as L"
vagrant pilot
I cant find the dub rn but whis was the world in the ova
Said very quickly rsther than drawn out
Also. Forced high noon joke
junior garnet
The OVA dub has my favorite voice acting fail
"An oil tanker for you" sounds completely robotic"
potent rivet
Those OVA animations are amazing
vagrant pilot
The Dio VS. Jotaro episode of the OVA is maybe the single best Jojo animation
I'm really sad none of the fight scenes from the same studio's Phantom Blood movie are viewable
junior garnet
Release 👏 the 👏 movie
vagrant pilot
DO IT
near starBOT
@vagrant pilot, Your Stand Power is now level 12 !
junior garnet
DO IT BROLY
junior garnet
He says "cowboy standoff" or something in the Japanese
vagrant pilot
He's very sickly, green even
junior garnet
But the phrase "high noon" was explicitly placed in the dub
Oh I thought you were making a Vic Mignogna joke
Yeah
Cause Jotaro's based on Clint Eastwood
vagrant pilot
That works too but i'm referring to funimation/toei's latest fuckup, green tinted broly movie
junior garnet
Oh, yeah
vagrant pilot
Yeah if clint eastwood was a bigger doofus than he already is
daring vine
gamers
near starBOT
@daring vine, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
junior garnet
rise up
daring vine
dose jotaro sleep in his cool guy hat 🤔
daring vine
f u ck the yaoi artists were wrong
potent rivet
that does not look like jotaro
junior garnet
Yes it does
daring vine
but dosent it fall off when the blind water guy almost hits him 🤔
junior garnet
Modern drawins of Jonathan and Joseph are weird
He also takes it off against Terrence T D'arby
daring vine
oh yeah wtf
potent rivet
Looks like someone else. Is that what Jotaro looked like in the manga?
daring vine
araki be like yeah guys its apart of him
vagrant pilot
That's Jotaro redone in the style of parts 7-8
junior garnet
Araki's artstyle has evolved
vagrant pilot
The hardcover Jojo manga has lots of those redesifns
junior garnet
That is how he draws now, and that's how he draws Jotaro
vagrant pilot
These covers have a shitton of the redesigns
They aren't redesigned in the manga itself tho, only for the covers
rose hinge
avdol what the hell
daring vine
how do you guys feel about people shipping jojo characters? asking for a friend
rose hinge
JOTOKAK
vagrant pilot
Funnily enough Zeppeli's colours in the redesign are closer to the movie than any other version
vagrant pilot
Joseph and Caesar is basically canon anyways
daring vine
pppfff i just got into bl/yaoi rn IM SO HAPPPY
junior garnet
But they hated each other on and off through the part
And Joseph fucked a different Italian
who was a woman
vagrant pilot
Haven't you ever heard of TENSION
rose hinge
if by "hated" you mean "had immense sexual tension"
daring vine
im new to the whole shipping this so this is really exciting
junior garnet
I love all those times where Araki talks about how he doesn't control what he writes
Like he says "I ended up drawing a lot of things I didn't want to draw"
daring vine
lol
vagrant pilot
The back of Jojonium 1 has dio carrying Danny 
junior garnet
And "You'd think I control what my characters do, but oftentimes they do things against my will"
Like
The fuck
Is something possessing Araki
DOES HE WRITE JOJO OR IS IT AN EVIL SPIRIT
celest violet
ARAKI FORGOT ONCE AGAIN HOW TO DRAW PAST CHARACTERS
junior garnet
It's weird
daring vine
its the work of an enemy stand
vagrant pilot
Also, joseph got that blond ova hair
junior garnet
Caesar
vagrant pilot
No someone non jojo related
vagrant pilot
Yeah
junior garnet
Clint Eastwood
vagrant pilot
Also it looks like he refined Jotaro's redesign a lot between that ckint eastwood art and the Jojonium
Also no
I can actually recognize Jojonium Jotaro as being Jotaro facially
junior garnet
He might have drawn that other Jot during Part 7
When he had that horrible same face syndrome
rose hinge
enough
rose hinge
is anything really questionable post-rero
vagrant pilot
True tho
I'm debating on waiting til i can afford the part 2 and 3 jojoniums or watching the anime right now
Psssh
Get outta here kiddo
Kakyoin s 2 cool 4 skool
rose hinge
how many kids do you know paint their enemies pre-battle
vagrant pilot
OVA kakyoin is too much of an edgelord for thst tho
Dyed his hair black and got sunglasses
rose hinge
before or after his eyes got fucked
vagrant pilot
I swear noriaki sounds like a food name
I honestly wonder if Jojo will ever actually have the balls to include non-straight characters
Also yes please
rose hinge
wdym, Joseph and Jotaro are def
near starBOT
@rose hinge, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
vagrant pilot
I mean non joke legit gay characters
vagrant pilot
Because ofnthe way japan is culturally if a manga/anime has gay characters it's almost always an explicitly gay manga/anime
rose hinge
but explicitly lgbt would be neat for suresies
junior garnet
Love Live isn't a gay anime
vagrant pilot
There's pretty much no such thing as lgbt people in an otherwise normal show in anime
Which is unfortunate
potent rivet
not everything needs to be lbgt
rose hinge
hhhhh
junior garnet
No but he's saying
vagrant pilot
Ofc it doesn't, but having zero presence or visibility ever??
rose hinge
Literally such a small percent is lmaooo
potent rivet
Especially when it would do nothing for plot/story/character development.
junior garnet
That a series is either ALL GAY or ALL STRAIGHT
vagrant pilot
Not everything has to advance the plot
junior garnet
Being gay doesn't have to do major things for the character
It's just part of who they are
potent rivet
It's like when games decide "hey this character is gay". It ends up being so that people can look at the character and say "oh i relate to this" and that's dumb.
vagrant pilot
It can just be a thing that's there
junior garnet
And you act like it wasn't obvious Dumbledore was gay
rose hinge
bc the way she did it just seemed so queer bait-y and wth
vagrant pilot
That I get because it seems like a copout for the latest movie where she teased dumbledore and his gay crush were in the same movie
But then it was never brought up
rose hinge
if you don't make the character 1-dimensional and "gay" isn't their entire personality then it should be fine
junior garnet
You can't look at that and say they're straight and then turn around and talk about Joseph x Caesar
It's because Jojo fans love gay
potent rivet
because the people who are into "shipping" are weird.
junior garnet
Sorry, anime fans love gay
vagrant pilot
I mean suzie q is pretty underdeveloped iirc
rose hinge
I mean Caesar had infinitely more screen time
vagrant pilot
I can't remember a thing about her
junior garnet
There's probably more Ed x Ling out there than Ed x Winry
rose hinge
and also bc what @junior garnet said
celest violet
She appeared in SC
vagrant pilot
I've never known Ed x Ling was a thing
vagrant pilot
Bleh
junior garnet
They interacted like 50 times
vagrant pilot
I dintnbrowse lots of fanfic
celest violet
Who knows what would happen If she didn’t appear on that
rose hinge
I mean he showed up to his own funeral literally already married
vagrant pilot
Also he wssnt in 2003 right?
junior garnet
And it was always "I know you're in there Ling, come back to us"
vagrant pilot
Thats 9 years of fanfic without him
vagrant pilot
*6 years
junior garnet
Because Xing doesn't exist in 2003
It's unfair to say 6 years without Ling, since online translations for the manga were still a thing
vagrant pilot
That's not to mention what his dub VA thunks of gay shipping
junior garnet
Plus I think we started getting the manga in 2005 or 6?
rose hinge
like "before I let my friends know I'm fucking alive, lemme go to the altar"
vagrant pilot
Anime fans usually make up the gkut of fans in the west
junior garnet
Vic doesn't hate gay shipping, he hates when people bring him yaoi and ask him to sign it
vagrant pilot
Tis a joke mostly
potent rivet
he thought people knew he was alive but Suzie forgot to tell them
vagrant pilot
LOL
rose hinge
that's reasonable
junior garnet
He doesn't have any official stance on gay shipping other than "No, I will not sign it"
vagrant pilot
I knowwww
I just like to joke
his first role ever was vega though and he's gay as fuck for himself
rose hinge
ok but also trusting a woman you just met to get in contact with your loved ones
Joey, wyd
vagrant pilot
Lol
potent rivet
he spent a month with her during his training arc, then another 3 weeks after that.
potent rivet
He hit on her, He protected her and saved her life, then promised he'd see her again.
vagrant pilot
I wonder if Joseph X Wamuu is a thing
junior garnet
She was just the sexy Italian maid Joseph jacked off to
vagrant pilot
👀
junior garnet
Oh, yeah
celest violet
We saw ||Jotaro‘ wife|| for like one panel
potent rivet
She was his maid for the month too.
junior garnet
They're two characters of the same gender who have a positive interaction
So of course they got shipped
vagrant pilot
That's because Jotaro just needs something to hide his dolphin fucking
celest violet
What even was her name?
vagrant pilot
Mrs. Notadolphin
celest violet
Mrs.||Jotaro Kujo’s wife||
potent rivet
thanks.
vagrant pilot
I love wamuu but that ship is so weird
celest violet
Ur Welcome
rose hinge
go off @vagrant pilot
vagrant pilot
Go off what
celest violet
Joseph is Gay for Kars
vagrant pilot
Where the fuck is this from
rose hinge
who isn't
vagrant pilot
I may find the wamuu ship weird but i amnsaying right now it's better than disgusting joseph/kars
rose hinge
lmaooo
vagrant pilot
The worst ship: Santana/Anyone
junior garnet