then when they drink, rip them apart from the inside
#stardust-crusaders
edgy cipher
frail cedar
Maybe Daniel developed his first, then Telence Beehive Hair McShittyName said “ok but what if i just”
edgy cipher
i mean the gambler had stories of his stand from like
years before sdc
so it mustve been natural born right?
edgy cipher
because dio wasnt fished up until the start of sdc
frail cedar
yknow if Darby cheated some dude out of 8 tokyo estates why would he even be involved with Dio
edgy cipher
dio probably intimidated him into working for him
like "im gunna kill u if u dont do what i say"
like anubis
dio never payed the sword lmao
i dont think he payed n'doul either
frail cedar
i’d like to see Dio gamble against Darby for his service
edgy cipher
or polnareff or kakyoin
that would be pretty cool
like in ace attorney when zak plays poker vs phoenix to see if he wants to hire him
idk who's played aa here but
wintry rampart
smh dio used his charisma
“I fucking hate dogs and women are mere tools, join me 😎”
edgy cipher
what animal do you think each crusader likes the most between dog and cat
frail cedar
“nice hey wanna see my coin collection”
edgy cipher
joseph is a dog person
frail cedar
I can see Polnareff being a cat person
frail cedar
other dogs may remind him too much of Iggy ;-;
frail cedar
POLNAREFF NO
edgy cipher
SILVER CHARIOT
frail cedar
OH GOD OH FUCK HES GOT SILVER CHAIRPODS IN
wintry rampart
jotaro is a dolphin person
edgy cipher
dogs are probably more similar to dolphins than cats are
but cats eat fish, which are marine life
gusty path
where does it actually say that jotaro likes dolphins or sm i genuinely do not remember
wintry rampart
lmao
edgy cipher
yea a little
frail cedar
I think every crusader is a dog person except Kakyoin
worthy cedar
death 13
hasty kayak
Oh
Two stands that aren't tarots
Cream and tenore sax
What is the name of the guy with the face on the back of his head?
The vampire that worked for dio
Nukesaku
Thanks, me
No problem, me
edgy cipher
it was nukesaku
oh sorry i accidentally erased time and leapt past it before answering your question
edgy cipher
maybe he does
frail cedar
Nukesukesukesake
hasty kayak
No
edgy cipher
oh ok
frail cedar
I thought it was a shitty vampire thing
edgy cipher
ok
hasty kayak
He just displaced body parts
But I am really angry we didn't get a little screen for tenore sax
Like you know
A stats screen
Because cream got one
Even though they aren't a tarot
edgy cipher
which one is tenore sax?
edgy cipher
uhhhh
hasty kayak
And they hit a pillar and a guy was in it
edgy cipher
ohhh
hasty kayak
And the illusion went away
edgy cipher
i member that
hasty kayak
Kenny G
edgy cipher
what a shithead lmao
hasty kayak
You are saying he is a shithead...
Even though he only had a few seconds of screen time
edgy cipher
stats are bullshit tbh
hasty kayak
hasty kayak
I downloaded all of them
edgy cipher
its good to have
hasty kayak
In order
I am
Enraged
I moved them to a new folder
And they moved out of order
river coral
didn't really know where to post this but here's manga Jotaro in his anime colour palette
Tried to pay attention to as many details as possible
Only thing I couldn't change was the belt buckle
you mean these?
ancient mirage
When Jotaro fucking ends Dio https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/275431372774965249/557203618038546450/Acting_Rehearsal_FAIL.mp4
gilded flicker
how come in 2 seasons there were no stands, and at the start of the 3rd season there are so many fucking stands all over the world? Will there be an explanation for it? or is it the classic "not explained" power up added randomly? (I'm on chapter 11)
magic reef
calling parts seasons
raw hornet
because Speedwagon is a responsible waifu so there can't be new vampires to use the ripple on
when you introduce a new power out of nowhere you gotta spend a lot of time explaining why it wasn't there in-universe because not everyone can break the 4th wall
big oof
It's slightly different
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raw hornet
Well people probably didn't like the idea of just suddenly ditching hamon
in fact some people still don't
At least the relationship between the ripple and stands is now reduced to nothing but similar kanji
with hamon Araki learnt to use powers creatively. Adding that to the already diverse stands makes jojo more b i z z a r e
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raw hornet
nice
"ripple is the energy of the sun and life"
and so, Araki learnt how to stretch the limits of a vague definition
Oi that wasn't VA talk I'm just saying Araki can stretch limits real far, and I ain't even judging
solid bane
hamon is so limiting, i like stands because they make fights more interesting
raw hornet
Absolutely
It's like a one-part asspull
You spend an entire part about how everyone just magically gets a new ability to kill off the last vampire
solid bane
you can see the hamon influence on stands
raw hornet
It's even in the kanji I think
solid bane
every fight was just, hey i got the confidence and beat you
raw hornet
The OVA was made for people who already knew JoJo
I don't think it even intended to explain stands
last coral
Hamon bubbles, spaghetti spikes, stunning/controlling humans, walking on water like Jesus, etc.
frail cedar
stands are cool because they can literally be/do anything
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last coral
Hamon has a lot of potential
frail cedar
depending on the user
last coral
But you need training for stamina
frail cedar
Visually, hamon is also a lot more limiting than stands
you can just do so much more with the effects on a stand
last coral
Also ZOOOOOM PUNCH
raw hornet
Ripple definitely has potential, but if Speedwagon was smashing stone masks everywhere it defeats its main purpose
And uh...the OVA had a lot of weird things
frail cedar
and thus ends this villainous legacy forever
solid bane
the enemies would be creative but the fighting style would get stale
ancient mirage
when part 9 comes out i think ther are going to be stands with hamon
raw hornet
Wait what
last coral
It's still pretty good even without vampires existing
frail cedar
Avdol might, actually.
ancient mirage
hmmmmmm🤔
near starBOT
@ancient mirage, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
raw hornet
Yeah probably Avdol
frail cedar
He seems like he would be disciplined enough.
raw hornet
Polnareff and Kakyoin? Hell naw
frail cedar
Polnereff definitely not. He'd probably just use a normal rapier.
raw hornet
At most he would be given a little temporary hamon to infuse with his rapier
But really Polnareff would be a terrible ripple user
frail cedar
and with no stand, Polnareff gets decked out in half plate armor to fight
tepid shard
Hol Horse just uses a normal gun.
raw hornet
fighting with armor
SPACE RIPPER STINGY EYES
bye bye part 5 Polnareff
frail cedar
who uses the laser eyes in P3
solid bane
so if stands never existed or stand never exist
also that number of part polnareff is very odd
raw hornet
Dio not using vampiric abilities is the least "I'll do anything to win" thing ever tbh
solid bane
it's like it's alluding to something
frail cedar
Jotaro still has to be the main character. How does he contribute?
he doesnt seem incredibly compatible with rigid breathing practice
frail cedar
now that's a character arc
raw hornet
SUNLIGHT YELLOW OVERDRIVE
frail cedar
"learn hamon"
"no"
raw hornet
Ora cross split attack
near starBOT
@last coral, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
frail cedar
Jotaro uses hamon to hyperaccelerate his perception for a brief moment, enough to give him the sense that time is stopped
raw hornet
Maybe humans as well, to further the creative uses of hamon
solid bane
hamon can't hurt living things tho
frail cedar
caesar's bubble nearly suffocated joseph
raw hornet
uses hamon to melt icicle to drop it on somebody's face
frail cedar
lungs are vital for hamon users
last coral
It can stun people
raw hornet
That probably will work
raw hornet
And consider this
last coral
Part 9 leaked
raw hornet
So for final battles we'll have things like Kars' OP ripple
last coral
You heard it here first
supple warren
well, if your ripple is strong enough, you can use it to melt stuff
you just need, Pillar Man levels of ripple
and Caesar did use ripple to "kill" Mark
last coral
You might even do the hamon wave Kars did if mastered enough
solid bane
hamon is so confusing
frail cedar
kars was only able to do that because he was a super mega ultra invincible vampire: over heaven
frail cedar
Jotaro learning hamon from Joseph leads to him picking up a few of his grandpa's tricks
raw hornet
That is true
supple warren
yep
last coral
Hamon can manipulate objects/beings when in physical contact
frail cedar
Jotaro: "Your next line is; 'Impossible! Jotaro, you stopped time???'."
Dio: "Impossible! Jotaro, you stopped time???"
Dio: 
last coral
I think it's the most basic explanation
Joseph blocked bullets using hair with hamon
He haven't received training yet
That too
raw hornet
I suspect there were tons around him
but oh well, Dio was destined to get Jojo's dong
So we can joke about Jojo being gay
Well he did stall Dio's return
last coral
Until SC? Yes
raw hornet
For me it reminded me of Revan back when the Old Republic was a thing
he couldn't kill the Sith Emperor but managed to stall his galactic conquest by decades
so yeah, efforts weren't exactly in vain
Jonathan is underrated tbh
true true
but look at OVA Dio and admire Jonathan's huge Joestar family jewels
rich totem
gotta love the abridged
rich totem
yeah, maybe someday antfish will have time / motivation
Was one of my fave things back in the day
There was no anime and the ova's were boring af
The sdc ones extremely dated tho
Still alot of good lines here and there
idk I just remember watching it recently and some of the jokes were like clearly from their time lol
The McDonald's Muslim jokes dont hit as hard anymore imo
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@rich totem, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
rich totem
His mirror world vid is still hella good even today
😰
The vanilla ice coming out the hole bit still gets me
"What ze fuck"
wintry rampart
i wonder what jotaro's dad would've thought when he found out that his wife was nearly going to die and his son went on a trip to the other side of the world to save her and save the entire world along the way
rich totem
They probably kept him in the dark like suzi
edgy cipher
i dont see why
they kept suzi in the dark cause they didnt want her to worry
but theres nothing to worry about when sdc is already over
and holly has been saved
rich totem
Yeah, but its just like needless worry
edgy cipher
idk couples talk a lot
i imagine holly would be like "hey honey i almost died"
"our son is such a good kid"
rich totem
We know holy is the type to not worry others tho
She won't bring it up if she knows itll bother someone
edgy cipher
i suppose
solid bane
i think papa kujo left holy for good
rich totem
Worst fear: holy's being cheated on
solid bane
with her personality i'm afraid that might be the case
rich totem
Probably cause it's not very jojo
edgy cipher
idk
rich totem
The 2000 one has different character sheets
of course she'll look slightly diff
As much as like hayama's drawings, I really dont like how they translated to the ova
edgy cipher
same
rich totem
Kishida's episode was the best one imo, just cause he overrided hayama's designs
supple warren
oh def, imagine n'doul fighting in the city
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@supple warren, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
supple warren
good luck with all the ambient sound
edgy cipher
n'doul is my favorite non-main character of part 3
so cool
the crusaders + dio
n'doul?
hes blind
he probably couldnt hear iggy
edgy cipher
idk star platinum can throw things fucken hard
so iggy probably flew a lot faster than the anime makes it seem like he did
junior garnet
Like how DIO vs Jotaro lasts like 5 minutes but the anime makes it seem really long
solid bane
dramatic effect
edgy cipher
ichibyou keika
junior garnet
three minutes go by
solid bane
9 seconds were like 1 minute
last coral
HOHO
solid bane
2 minutes i'd guess
junior garnet
I think my favorite part is when you hear him say 1-7 all right after the other with nothing happening
But then you realize that him saying "ichi byou kei ka" takes like 3 seconds
old bramble
React to this message with 
if you believe kakyoin shouldn’t have died or 
if he should have
solid bane
edgy cipher
it was necessary for the plot for kakyoin to die
old bramble
Someone else could have
edgy cipher
he died so that the crusaders could discover the secret of dio's world
junior garnet
He could've been knocked unconscious instead of dying
old bramble
Yeah!
edgy cipher
but wheres the stakes dawg
junior garnet
But then DIO would've failed to kill anyone
old bramble
Then pull a joseph
junior garnet
DIO would have a kill count of 0
junior garnet
And then VI would be more threatening than DIO
junior garnet
Although, tbf, VI still killed a man AND a dog
edgy cipher
because he needs to be a menacing villain
old bramble
OID
junior garnet
And DIO only killed a teenager
junior garnet
Shhhh
edgy cipher
...who was then brought back to life
old bramble
Okay fine I relate to Kakyoins backstory more than I should
edgy cipher
listen i love kakyoin
junior garnet
We're only talking about main characters that stay dead
edgy cipher
but he's gotta die
last coral
He ordered a human to run over people at the sidewalk
edgy cipher
junior garnet
@old bramble You have an invisible friend no one can see?
old bramble
Yeah even that
edgy cipher
oh sure when kakyoin says that hes a badass
but when i say that
i get called a schizophrenic
ok
hasty kayak
Why is it death 13?
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junior garnet
Death 13 was because "Death" is a stupid Stand name, and "Black Death" was taken
last coral
JoJo just used the tarot concept early
junior garnet
As opposed to "Hanged Man", "Emperor", etc being fine without colors
Oh fuck I can't say that, it's a spoiler
To DIU!
hasty kayak
No, I mean why the number
I get why the tarot cards
I mean yeah
But the lovers 6 also sounds cool too
junior garnet
Yeah, it's21
Because The World is the last one
I know Fool is 0, Star is 17, Death is 13, and World is 21
hasty kayak
Also
The sun could actually beat dio
Like fuck think about that
One of his followers could fucking beat him easily
solid bane
i'm sure they had flesh buds on them
solid bane
besides do we know if the heat is equal to the actual sun?
modest dove
i think the stand itself isnt the real sun just heat produced from the stand
solid bane
well it's not like the thing affects the whole planet
modest dove
hamon works cuz it uses energy from the sun itself and the sun works cuz its the sun
but the stand doesnt use the real sun, just heat
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modest dove
plus we got to take into account dio prob knows how the stand works and could stop him if he tried to use it against him
maybe yeah that's why the crusaders didn't notice, they thought it was just the sun
yeah dio was really smart keeping himself locked away w/ ppl guarding him
wintry hull
hasty kayak
Imagine the jotaro and Kakyoin fight to a non stand user
Jotaro is just flying around while Kakyoin is playing with his puppets and all of a sudden the room explodes.
junior garnet
Imagine Jotaro vs DIO
Two guys are fighting
Then all of a sudden there's a steamroller
Then the blonde one EXPLODES IN HALF
hasty kayak
And moving from place to place in a blink of a eye
hasty kayak
And a guy is flying through the sky and hits a water tower
And then a clock explodes
Damn I love that clock
solid bane
i find it weird no one has yet documented the stands
hasty kayak
You would just see a guy moving in a room
What about people looking at the gang on strength?
Would they just be floating?
hasty kayak
Yeah I know
junior garnet
And Anne
hasty kayak
I just wanted to be special
junior garnet
Strength is a physical Stand
hasty kayak
But I fucking hate Kenny G and Vanilla Ice
Their stands are weird
Not even tarots
Also jotaro's mom's stand
solid bane
unnamed btw
hasty kayak
Yeah
But they aren't even tarots
You can tell since there aren't tarot's left
Also
Kenny G has a stand
No, because irl ones have been taken up
That is why they made the 9 Egyptian ones
Also
Tenore Sax is Kenny G's
junior garnet
Not the beginning of music references, though
hasty kayak
Um no
junior garnet
The first music reference is named character number 4: Dio
Also, all tarots have been taken
Avdol couldn't have fought any Stands while separated from the group
The whole point was that DIO didn't know he was alive
There are 22 Arcana
Each Stand is based off of one of those
hasty kayak
The major arcana
hasty kayak
Because they have the minors too
junior garnet
Also, the "minor Arcana" are glorified playing cards
foggy sierra
Because Araki
junior garnet
The Star card has many similarities in meaning and fortune-telling to The World card
solid bane
a flexing scuba diver
opaque barn
I mean, Dio spent 100 years underwater, that's hella diving
edgy cipher
dio's stand should've been called diver down
hasty kayak
Yeah
And give the name the world to cream
You know
Cream should have been the devil
It would look much better
Because
Fucc this thing
hasty kayak
Devo?
edgy cipher
ebony devil's user
hasty kayak
She is a little flesh bud
edgy cipher
yea but like
hasty kayak
That grows into that
edgy cipher
how does she attach to you
hasty kayak
By physical contact
edgy cipher
does the user have to touch you?
hasty kayak
Well
edgy cipher
i remember her fight i just dont really remember how she works
edgy cipher
the user's or the target's?
hasty kayak
And so she used it to make a flesh bug to eventually become a puppet
The user
Since that is a piece of her
And that would explain how she disguised herself
All of the stands have reasonable explanations
cough cough Anubis
edgy cipher
anubis is cool
hasty kayak
Anubis is just a fucking sword
That is their fucking stand user
Actually, looking back on it, it would make sense
Just stab a object with the arrow
The sun is just a giant fire ball
edgy cipher
the sun is a deadly lazer
solid bane
not anymore there's a blanket
odd field
weary turret
Empress grows on joseph once he gets nena's blood on him
wintry rampart
I’m very early on, but why do Holly and Joseph have very similar stands while Jotaro has a very different one? Did Jotaro’s father have a stand? If so, was that stand similar to Jotaro’s current stand?
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wintry rampart
That’s weird lol, I just made it to stardust and it was really bugging me.
rocky swallow
By similar Stands, do you mean the fact that both Holly's and Joseph's are plant-like?
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hallow iris
He wasn't born with a stand I don't think ??
fallen rune
wintry rampart
sometimes
i miss times
when stand abilities was simple
like in stardust crusaders
solid bane
My theory is that they both have similarly personalities
And since jotaro is a tough snacc his stand is different
weary turret
they appear similar but it's difficult to say if they actually are similar stands, since holy is incapable of properly manifesting hers
clear raptor
actually
dio and jotaro share the same stan d
they both do have the same personalities
easily pissed off
somehow smart
and even dio said it
solid bane
Angrily bad and angrily good
clear raptor
TW and SP are the same stand
mortal pollen
Are we going to ignore the fact that dio used an ability similar to hermit purple
weary turret
we do not have 24 hour discussion on it if that's what you're asking
wanton turret
also yes we're going to ignore that cuz araki probably did too
rocky swallow
I've seen "Za Warudo is Jonathan"
frail cedar
some people think Star Platinum is Jonathan’s ghost
he said “uh oh dio if i die my ghost is gonna haunt you”
and then he’s killed by star platinum
something like that, yeah
hallow iris
but stands aren't ghosts
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frail cedar
He didn’t beat Yellow Temperance. He just beat the shit out of Rubber Soul
i mean it’s a fun theory
hallow iris
It doesn't have much evidence to back it up
hallow iris
he's purple ?
hallow iris
not rlly I don't see it
didn't they say that stands are basically representing the soul?
sweet aspen
weary turret
the theory is more or less bunk
wintry rampart
Araki and his toilet humor
Can we clarify what was with DIO possessing a version of hermit purple or was it just Jonathan's stand but after DIO was in control it was officially The World?
weary turret
it was a stand ability that manifested in DIO around the same time The World did
he manifested it because his body is jonathan's from the neck down
wintry rampart
But after DIO was fully in control the stand was gone leaving just The World?
solid bane
with a time stopping ability why would you need ropes
wintry rampart
It was vines
solid bane
same thing
wintry rampart
Drink Piss
weary turret
we don't know how it works, aside from being similar or possibly identical to hermit purple
wanton turret
to attack joseph, who covered himself in hamon, or jotaro whose expertise is close combat, from afar
weary turret
hermit purple channels the ripple
i know! i'll attack him with hermit purple
weary turret
HP is too slow for SP's fast and precise movements
wintry rampart
DIO uses knife
solid bane
there's a toaster on the pool how do i get it
oh i know
let me use an electrical wire
weary turret
also, DIO expresses his distaste for the stand during the fight
calls it weak and stuff
wanton turret
but also, in regards to this, woulda been cool if araki added those thorny vines on The World's design, instead of scrapping it altogether
weary turret
when i was first reading jojo, i thought he developed the world from his hermit purple
i don't think that really makes sense though
wanton turret
what doesn't make sense?
weary turret
HP2 developing into TW
solid bane
later on you know how he got the world
weary turret
shh
wanton turret
i just wish araki re-referenced hp2 in the world's design
like his gauntlets being wrapped in vines or something
weary turret
Araki Said(tm) that The World was actually the first stand he ever designed
it would be neat though
wintry rampart
is it possible that Dio got Hp2 from jonathan, but also got the world, giving him 2 standos
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@wintry rampart, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
weary turret
yes, that's more or less what happened
wintry rampart
so we can assume that jonathans stand wouldve been a variant of josephs
weary turret
no, we can't
weary turret
jojo a-go!go! has it worded specifically
"it's an ability that DIO manifested because his body is jonathan's from the neck down"
DIO manifested HP2
if jonathan had his own head on his body, who knows?
weary turret
damn enya shot him?
wintry rampart
i think he was in on it
weary turret
not if you only need one tiny wound
some faceless servant shot him
they changed it in the 2013 anime
wintry rampart
oh
weary turret
nope
he just only remembers her as a country girl
i feel like DIO may have had enough respect for jonathan to track down her grave
as part of his establishing his stand network to keep tabs on the remaining joestars
when DIO was running around for 3 years, doing stuff
and yeah like that
by SDC he knows all about jonathan's 3 descendants
good thing there were 3 delicious dudes there to wake him up as the sun sets
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hallow iris
that would honestly be so cool and something he would probably do??
he would see it as a trophy
at least that's what I believe
modest dove
feel like dio would pull a shakespeare and hold onto jonathans head and talk to it or smthing
hallow iris
I love that
both of those sound like something he would do
I think it's cool honestly
modest dove
its a fresh take on the succing vampires are accustomed to wish he explored the vampires more
hallow iris
Dio just doesn't seem like the kind of person to put his mouth on some nasty ho
lmao
modest dove
honestly he didnt even hunt ppl for blood they just threw themselves at him
wintry rampart
DIO is bi
hasty kayak
@frail cedar You know why he wasn't buried? Because his head is in the ocean and his body was burnt to a crisp because it belonged to dio
weary turret
what? they chucked his body into the sunlight at the end
ancient sun
yare yare daze
ancient sun
why did araki write a horny monkey into this
solid bane
how else would you know it's a bizarre adventure
ancient sun
it's not bizarre it's just gross
bizarre is Stroheim showing up out of nowhere every 5 goddamn minutes
🤷
supple warren
the monkey is literally from a movie
a very famous movie
the same scene even
may contain nudity
be careful
apart from perhaps the main cast
every villain is basically based off a movie
oh yeah, true
polnareff is based off the princess bride
down to the motivation
and the same speech against J Geil
"my name is inigo montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die"
swap father for sister
Lovers = Fantastic Voyage probably
no idea where high priestss would be from thou
wintry rampart
k
last coral
@wintry rampart I meant he starts to underestimate people when he reaches this part
If he didn't he'd take down Jotaro quickly
If that was Jonathan using Star Plat, he wouldn't hesitate if he had the personality from PB
He's scared of Jonathan that much to end him quick
He literally said he'll test the strengths of both of their stands
He says The World seems superior or something while doing so
The magnet thing was confusing
Shouldn't all living and non-living stop during timestop
last coral
Ohh
Since SP has timestop capability, his movement works together with the things he touches to a certain extent during The World's
worthy cedar
What would SC be like if monologuing wasnt a free action
orchid veldt
if Hol Horse did become part of the group in Part 3
which fights do you think he'd be the most prominent in?
viscid quartz
Y’all ever wonder what was Vanilla Ices reaction to discovering that his stand can vore him
frail cedar
Hol Horse sniping Kenny G would have been pretty funny.
wintry rampart
woah
wintry rampart
Cause everyone knew DIO is too strong for them
solid bane
either knew that or flesh budded
wintry rampart
And Hol Horce attempted to kill DIO just because he wanted treasures and stuff
hallow iris
@viscid quartz I've actually thought about that before
copper topaz
jesus christ i forgot the whole child polnareff cleaning scene
vernal steppe
I'd call that a low point
Although I thought the idea was cool
Including the animators
copper topaz
i really don’t like this episode compared to the oingo boingo or mariah episodes
vernal steppe
Araki has to cater to the 12 year olds, what can you do
copper topaz
jojo is the young adults category isn’t it?
vernal steppe
From what I've read they aim at 12-18
But god knows that doesn't make seinen "mature"
Pretty sure shonen literally means boy
Also maybe it's just the film age ratings I've been brought up with but 12-18 is quite a range of content
copper topaz
yeah it is
near starBOT
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copper topaz
18 year old is way more mature than 12 year old
vernal steppe
Like Shonen Jump can contain anything from Spiderman to Game of Thrones
opening a random page must be like Russian roulette
copper topaz
wasn’t death note in shōnen jump with naruto and dragon ball?
vernal steppe
Death Note was in Jump Force so I guess it was in Shonen Jump
copper topaz
yeah
vernal steppe
Kids were made of tougher stuff back then
It's also sort of funny that they would censor or cut that stuff in the anime
But the manga is fair game
Maybe because it's black and white and not moving
copper topaz
didn’t they also say fuck and shit in the manga?
i remember one part with jotaro yelling “shut the fuck up”
copper topaz
you can say fuck once in a pg-13 movie iirc
vernal steppe
Once Upon a Deadpool explains what you can say I think
copper topaz
wasn’t stroheims nazi outfit removed in eyes of heaven
supple warren
yep
copper topaz
there was a locker in resident evil (2??) named jojo
copper topaz
yeah
vernal steppe
JoJo references everything and is referenced by everything. It's a beautiful cycle
near starBOT
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supple warren
vernal steppe
Level 6 on such a beautiful moving quote. So perfect
supple warren
Dalsin's stretch ability is based of Zoom Punch
i've actually seen the interview where they mention those
it's in some artbook from streetfighter iirc
copper topaz
copper topaz
is it the one where she says “i now see why you aren’t famous”
or popular
or whatever
ocean mauve
The one with the tea club
and the white haired girl
And she was encouraging to skip parts
To part 4 to be popular
copper topaz
well i finally got past the alessi episode jesus christ that went on way too long
ocean mauve
Where have they reached with 4?
copper topaz
^^
copper topaz
isnt that just part of the color changes that jojos had for a while
copper topaz
oh jesus not that
ocean mauve
Oh god no
vernal steppe
ALWAYS that
copper topaz
reminder that the same company who animated jojos bizarre married life animated one punch man as well
and no game no life
vernal steppe
Woah that was a real animation? I need that
copper topaz
married life?
vernal steppe
Yeah
copper topaz
i’m trying to find it
“CLAMP IN WONDERLAND is a series of animated music videos produced by Studio MADHOUSEW and AnimateW.
As part of the promotion for the event, the first features characters from Clamp's previous works created between 1989 and 1994. A sequel was released later on encompassing even more characters from the Clamp universe up to 2006. Both were released to DVD on October 26, 2007 as Clamp in Wonderland 1&2 1989-2006 (BCBA-3143).
Within the first music video, a younger Jota and Charmy Green, along with an older Jota, can be seen at the end right before the credits.”
serect ur cer
vernal steppe
Oh wow thank you
copper topaz
CUCKYOWEN
copper topaz
let’s go bois boutta finish part 3
near starBOT
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copper topaz
ROAD ROLLER DA
hallow iris
I loved part 3
copper topaz
i just finished part 3
tepid shard
Now you can get to the good stuff.
tawdry roost
i've heard jojo part 3 described as kinda 'monster of the week' and i dunno if i want to watch 50 eps of that, is there a list somewhere of which eps are lame and skippable
wintry rampart
That is correct. The formula for the most part is using a new villain of the week.
There are more important parts in which characters develop like || The Hanged Man || and there are also lesser fights like || Alessi ||
tawdry roost
what % of episodes could be skipped without affecting my enjoyment of the rest of them
maybe that's not quite the right question, since you could conceive of a plot-light episode that is highly enjoyable by itself
near starBOT
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wintry rampart
yeah that is true and you will miss a lot of small things
but if you do want the necessary eps that I can recall from a couple minutes of thinking here they are
tawdry roost
also i will watch any episode that has a frame that's been turned into a meme
wintry rampart
I don't recommend skipping eps at all despite it being a drag at points. If you do however you should definitely watch eps 1-5, 10-11, 14-15, 21-22, 25-26 (35 and 36 aren't necessary but you should watch them no matter what I think), and then 38-48. There might be more so someone should correct me
well with memes then...
pretty much every episode
tawdry roost
which one is 'i can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer'
wintry rampart
that's pretty late in part 3
tawdry roost
in the 38-48 range?
wintry rampart
yes
tawdry roost
is your list https://www.reddit.com/r/StardustCrusaders/comments/6dgz34/which_episodes_of_stardust_crusaders_can_i_skip/dlr2pk2/ plus 14, 15, 35, 36?
wintry rampart
that list seems fine but I don't know why they would leave out episode 14 and 15, considering what happens
but yeah. it seems fine if you wanna skip episodes
but don't skip :)
tawdry roost
could i watch eps 6-9 and use them as an indicator of whether or not i can skip the later 'skippable' ones
wintry rampart
like if you watch what is on that list, you will miss that meme
and sure. do that
tawdry roost
i haven't seen that one before
i don't think
replace 'turned into a meme' with 'turned into a meme well-known outside of jojo-specific communities'
wintry rampart
only "normie" jojo memes I know are the "It was me Dio" one and the "I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer"
but the Kakoyin lick is a pretty well known
or when Joseph and Abdul cuddle 
you'd miss that
tawdry roost
i'm not actually sure if i've seen https://i.redd.it/v7lxg4tww8n21.png more than once, but i want to see it in context
wintry rampart
that specific image is from the Mariah fight
In short: I can think of a meme for almost every ep. Just watch the start, if you hate it then just watch the eps that you think are necessary
tawdry roost
which ep would that be
tawdry roost
? i was asking which ep the mariah fight is
tawdry roost
i guess i did binge HxH in a few weeks
while also working and school
pray i never get into one piece
wintry rampart
one piece is good if you ever do watch it :) but there are like 5 minutes of recap at the start of every episode which is 😴
tawdry roost
i think that was part of why i dropped naruto after like 150 eps
probably shouldn't've since that's into anime-only filler territory
could've skipped
but i couldn't find a good point to start to get the end of the first part in
pine mist
don’t skip any of SC. the episodes are skippable and I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t a drag
but the final fight is mostly worth it
wintry rampart
^
and even some of the fights in between are still great
or at least have a few good moments
pine mist
I was slightly bored for a good chunk of SC, but I would never wish I skipped any
static knot
I wonder if Jotaro ever fought any sea animals with stands in his job
solid bane
probably used it to restrain them
static knot
I meant like the animals had stands themselves
Like a bunch of sharks with a shared stand or something
near starBOT
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solid bane
if that were the case that'd be a big yare yare daze moment
gilded locust
I hate part 2 so much
hallow iris
what do you hate it ?
weary turret
it;s not hugely interesting and unfunny
vernal pendant
part 2 is really amazing since you just come from part 1
weary turret
characters were bland and ending sucked
orchid veldt
hmm that seems like an incorrect statement
weary turret
villains were okay tho
orchid veldt
WAMUU IS THE GOAT
weary turret
hell yeah
weary turret
what did they even fuckin do? cheat at cards and kick the nearest pigeons and girls around
okay i'm exaggerating a bit. i did like part 2
but it's probably my least favourite part
vernal pendant
only thing part 1 does better is the ending outside of that part 2 is way way way better
weary turret
i liked jonathan a lot better
vernal pendant
weary turret
joseph sexy tho
orchid veldt
Jonathan is still one of the weakest Jojos if not the weakest
people exaggerate how bland he is cause Jonathan is truly endearing as a character and has a lot more to him than just being "a gentleman" but regardless the other Jojos are just a lot more fun to watch
weary turret
it's really his whole tragic hero thing that gets me
everything jonathan wanted was more or less unattainable
when he got what he still could have, dio shows up and kills him
idk it really got to me
royal bear
granite blade
dont make me cry smh
wintry rampart
Oingo Boingo are the best minor villains of part 3
because they have at least some humanity in them
topaz igloo
the gorilla is the best
topaz igloo
same thing
topaz igloo
i only knew the stand name
wintry rampart
Stand powaaa
edgy cipher
COCKYOWEEN
wintry rampart
Oh no xuxkoin just went to Dunkin
edgy cipher
america runs on kakyoin
wintry rampart
Cherry Jam Donut
edgy cipher
the dub is pretty bad imo
matt mercer is okay
i like when he says
"its high noon"
but thats about it
wintry rampart
You're about to be crushed to death by a steam roller of a vampire that just killed your friend and the reason why all this suffering is happening
copper topaz
GOOD FRICKING GRIEF
edgy cipher
jotaro without the yare yare daze just isnt jotaro
whenever i watch part 3 dub its just
jesse mccree
copper topaz
NEXT TIME I SEE HIS FACE IM GONNA BEAT IT INTO THE FRICKING GROUND
wintry rampart
But what is Jotaro without his hat?
copper topaz
IM GOING TO ROLL OVER YOU
wintry rampart
If this was a wild west movie
copper topaz
ova english dub
narrow juniper
An oil tanker for you
copper topaz
THATS KAKYOINS HIYEHAPHANT GRIN
10 year olds when they do their own dubs by voicing the subs
copper topaz
good fricking grief
narrow juniper
Hol horse and D'arby are the best minor villains from part 3
foggy maple
here's your receipt keep the freakin change
wintry rampart
SHUT UP! Jotaro asserting his defiance to THOTS
copper topaz
virgin licklicklicklicklicklicklick < chad rerorerorerorerorerorerorero
solid bane
licklick sounded creepy and rerorero was weird
wintry rampart
Araki is pretty aware of THOTS
foggy maple
oingo boingo
wintry rampart
Cannot agree on Hol Horse since he is just a meme character tbh. Him trying to betray Dio was nice though. 1st D'Arby is the best minor villain in part 3, that I can agree on.
Mr JOESTAR
copper topaz
i might watch the english dub in full for the meme
narrow juniper
^
wintry rampart
Out cheating the player
narrow juniper
He's my favourite fighter
copper topaz
best part was d’arby having a fucking heart attack
wintry rampart
Never knew someone would just have a mental breakdown in a middle of a card game
copper topaz
why the fuck
near starBOT
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copper topaz
he didn’t even say it in japanese
wintry rampart
Read the Manga
all prayers are answered
Wasn't hol horse originally going to become a jobro but araki decided it became too crowded
ya
copper topaz
hol horse op lol
wintry rampart
Also he's abilities and personality were too similar with the crusaders
Imagine Pol and Hol comradery against vanilla ice
Also
Infinite ammo
And telekinetic bullets
Oh yeah
MUHAMMAD AVDOL
That would have been really awkward
I'm sure that would refuse Hol Horse
Or might let him in
After they beat the shit of him
I can't believe araki did that to us with avdol
solid bane
kill him, comes back, kill him again
foggy maple
HELL 2 U
near starBOT
@foggy maple, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
wintry rampart
Engrish is gud
That's like if shizah survived wammu just to die again
Throw another rock
Who'd win? Thousands of years old perfected monster killing techniques with modern improvement or One Rocky boi
We can not ignore Iggy's sacrifice
foggy maple
iggy should have survived
copper topaz
i honestly didn’t like iggy that much
his entire character was just about farting on people’s faces
wintry rampart
The only arc I kind of dislike in sdc is the one with kakoyin and death 13. Everyone treats kakoyin like he's stupid and they haven't met weird stand users before.
foggy maple
him and polnareff coulda been bros 😭
copper topaz
alessi arc