#stardust-crusaders

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stone eagle
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I guess that makes sense

elfin dune
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its forshadowing

fallow hollow
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Is it just me that preferred the part 3 art style over part 4

foggy sierra
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I liked both

tepid shard
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Part 3 had the horrible pillow shoulders and the most angular of faces.

fallow hollow
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There was just something about part 3 idk wut

tepid shard
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It's a style I really don't like.

fallow hollow
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it just seemed natural to me I guess

foggy sierra
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Can we talk about how 17 year old Jotaro looked like a grown man, and how 40 year old Jotaro looked 17

tepid shard
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He made a deal with Prosciutto and Alessi.

fallow hollow
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Facts lol

near starBOT
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@fallow hollow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

foggy sierra
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Nice

fallow hollow
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So one thing I don’t get is how exactly dio got Jonathan’s body in part 1

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I mean he was a head and the ship exploded and shit like wut

foggy sierra
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He probably escaped Jonathan’s grasp, then cut off Jonathan’s head using his weird ass tendrils, then attached himself and went into a coffin cuz he could

near starBOT
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@foggy sierra, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

foggy sierra
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Oh Yeet

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dabs

fallow hollow
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Eh I guess lol

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Oh shit I forgot about his laser eyes

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Oh yeah I think it was that

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lol ye

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Lmao

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I feel that dio being a vampire made him essentially a bit less of a threat in part 3 due to the sun

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Woulda been cool if they gave him a way to conquer the son like kars did but eh

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Ye true

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It was kinda funny though if u think about it dio staying in the same place for 45 eps of part 3

near starBOT
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@fallow hollow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

fallow hollow
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But it hyped us up even more making him seem like a god in a way in terms of power

hardy beacon
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Part 4 would have been awful if it used part 3 artstyle

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And u could probably say the same in reverse

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They don't exist in a vacuum

frosty meadow
wintry rampart
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can i put a screenshot i just took in here?

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

weary turret
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sure

wintry rampart
jaunty palm
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go ahed mistur joestr

near starBOT
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@jaunty palm, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

hardy beacon
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this has probably been answered many times

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but what was the deal with Dio and Jotaro randomly starting to fly at the end of part 3?

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it's just fun?

wintry rampart
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yes

last coral
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It was supposed to be their stands leaping

hardy beacon
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but like

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Dio carried the road roller not his stand iirc

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or did they use teamwork lol

wanton turret
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Sometimes dio himself is enough

last coral
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Uhh

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Araki: he's a vampire too

wintry rampart
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Dio vs Alucard's release form

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I just finished Stardust Crusaders last night.

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I had stop watching Jojo awhile ago, but started back a few days ago and really enjoyed it

hardy beacon
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Dio vs Jotaro is amazing

wintry rampart
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It is.

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I grew to love the stands during the second part of Stardust Crusaders. At first, I was not too into the concept, but it got better for me and I enjoy the stands now.

hardy beacon
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pretty much the same feeling

stone venture
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I was into Stands almost immediately, likely cause I enjoyed SMT Online and Persona.

wintry rampart
stone venture
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What kind of music would you play with this?

wintry rampart
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play me some of that jumping musik

stone venture
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Has to be Mariah Carey xD

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I'm thinking...Vision of Love.

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It has a kind of..Egypt feel too xD

wintry rampart
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Her debut single, nice choice ArakiThink

stone venture
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Well, SDC was set/written before 1990ish, limits the options.

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That's why Ocean Man can't be Joot's stand, since it wasn't made until like 1996

crimson jewel
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hold on wtf

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every episode is cannon?

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i couldve swore oingo boingo is a filler

wanton turret
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every episode is canon yes, in the sense that none of them are anime-originals

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there's no reason to make filler episodes anyways

stone venture
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It's not long enough to NEED filler.

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Filler is mostly used in anime that are ongoing along with an anime, not one that has had a mange for 30+ years.

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So Manga has time to make more.

crimson jewel
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@stone venture ohh

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so manga came out long before anime

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and finished

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but wtf is oingo boingo brothers lol xD

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theyre like a joke

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and damnnn anubis is sexy asf

stone venture
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They are. Also Oingo Boingo is the band of Danny Elfman...you know. the guy who writes music for Tim Burton?

crimson jewel
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idk

stone venture
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Oingo Boingo is the band that made the 'pedobear' song xD

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"LIttle Girls" xD

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Yeah, Persona Battles more like ;D

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Well, killing either works. So attacking either works if you're a Stand, but not if you're the user.

last coral
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Imagine if Joseph used projectiles with Hamon

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bUt oNlY sTanDs cAn dEfeaT sTandS

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Don't start with this line

stone venture
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Using Hamon with projectiles was Caesar's thing.

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As bubbles. Since water conducts hamon, Metal and such do not, unless you're touching it.

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It's why the Clackers had a string attached xD

last coral
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The clackers would work on Dio

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Since it kinda explodes

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It won't work anymore after he gets hit though

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Since his body was weaker it would deal more damage

empty cedar
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hey i wanted to ask, is dio in part 3 as strong as cars or just mask vampire?

stone venture
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Kars would eat DIO for breakfast. And would still be hungry.

empty cedar
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then why is joseph having so much trouble with him xd

stone venture
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Because Joseph isn't 19 anymore and not right after training with Hamon. He's lazy, remember?

empty cedar
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yeh but stands are more powerful than hamon or am i stupid

stone venture
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Depends on Stand and Hamon user though.

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It's not about pure power, it's about how smart/creative you are.

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Look at D'Arby sr. No one threw even a single punch and yet he was able to take down people.

empty cedar
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darby sr.

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?

stone venture
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Daniel D'Arby.

crimson jewel
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LOL

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EPISODE 31 IS THE BEST XD

empty cedar
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lol

near starBOT
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@empty cedar, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wintry rampart
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Lma

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Lmao

wintry rampart
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Why didnt they just beat up Darby

neat fable
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Cuz gay

last coral
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It was too late I think

tranquil radish
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no one can just deflect the emerald splash

last coral
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They just knew he was a stand user when somebody's soul got trapped

wanton turret
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because if they beta up darby, it could risk him breaking the chips by force, or the souls stay as chips

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since his ability is specifically to either win/lose in gambling

last coral
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He said it himself that they'll stay as chips unless he's defeated through gambling

wanton turret
neat fable
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Yikes

worthy cedar
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no

wintry rampart
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He can drive back

weary turret
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oh well

gritty coyote
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They stole Arabia Fats's water and left him in the middle of the desert

tranquil radish
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he was fat af too

timber hearth
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i kinda dont understand why dio had to yell to the world to stop time

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like he stopped time even without giving the order

wanton turret
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for dramatic purposes

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and flaunting off his power

tranquil radish
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because just saying ZA WARUDO isn't enough

stone venture
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Because DIO is a drama queen.

light meadow
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rooooodarollerdaaaaa

granite blade
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while araki, in japan was writing phantom blood, jotaro and dio fought in cairo with their stands

gritty coyote
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All the evidence I need to prove that jojo is gay is already in front of me. 1) They're all super Extra Like That™

light meadow
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which jojo 🤔

gritty coyote
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Yes

stone venture
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Well, Wamuu and Santana...And Jouta both have 2 dads.

gritty coyote
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Well the jouta thing isnt canon so I dont count it

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But the pillar men thing is legit

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About what?

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Oh that

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I cant read into words

stone venture
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I wasn't serious about Jouta, just pointing it out, that both in canon/out of it, you have 2 guys raising kids. xD

gritty coyote
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At the very least there's a case to be made about rampant bisexuality.

stone venture
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There's a case to be made that sexuality isn't visible from JoJo char behaviour/appearance. Look at Joseph, he married a woman, despite being just as Extra as Caesar.. Especially with his crop top and lesbian mom jeans

gritty coyote
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Like I said, bisexuality.

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let me have this

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That's the nature of fandom, my friend

light meadow
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so lets revive this topic

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where does jotaros hat end

stone venture
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More people ship Jotaro with Kakyoin too, but then, JoJo's doesn't really give women much of backstory/personality beyond being someone's love interest :/

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But eh.

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A lot of females are just there to be...females, not characters.

gritty coyote
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That's a story for another day

stone venture
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Well, technically, you can see all first 6 JoJo's in the Opening of part 1.

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But yeah.

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Worse.

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When chars get a backstory JUST before they die. Like..no..Why?

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Make me care about them as their story unfolds, not when it's about to end.

weary turret
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jotaro's hat is part of his body

stone venture
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Maybe he glued a wig to it, made from his own hair.

gritty coyote
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Jotaro dyed his hair the specific shade of black that the school caps are made of

weary turret
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Araki: Yes, it's true.
Shoko: Is it? Why is the cap a part of his head?
Araki: Well, because he never takes off his cap.
Shoko: The cap is part of his body?
Araki: Right.```
wanton turret
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says he never takes it off
the hat literally falls off in the first episode and chapter

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Araki why you lyin

weary turret
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and in the n'doul fight, and in the d'arby the gamer fight

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probably more i'm forgetting

stone venture
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Jotaro also took his hat off to psyche out D'Arby.

weary turret
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yeah

stone venture
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To make it look like it was important...and it worked xD

weary turret
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Araki: Yes, it's true.
Shoko: Is it? Why is the cap a part of his head?
Araki: Well, because he never takes off his cap.
Shoko: The cap is part of his body?
Araki: Right. When drawing Jotaro, I felt it was OK to combine him and his hair since he never takes it off.
Shoko: That's a unique idea.
Araki: Indeed. By doing so, Jotaro looks more elegant. I want readers to recognize him from the back, not just his forefront.
Shoko: So he isn't actually wearing a cap. The cap is completely part of his body.
Araki: That is right. 
Shoko: Only Araki-sensei could come up with such an idea. It's me who wants to use Rohan's stand to see inside of Araki-Sensei's imagination.```
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there's the whole thing

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he's actually more talking about why he's drawn like that

stone venture
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There's probably a Stand for that.

crimson jewel
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So you are telling me.....a high school punk with friends...fought an immortal genius level vampire that lived over 100 years with an army of expert assassin...and won?

wintry rampart
crimson jewel
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seems legit

odd galleon
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What if a tiny drop of blood falls into his pp?

timber hearth
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I like the fact that jojo characters can get shot or beaten to death multiple times and still be alright bu Kakyoin need to sit in a hospital cause water scratched his eyes for nearly an entire battle in egypt arc

wintry rampart
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lol, yeah.

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Joseph got stabbed in the neck and his blood drained, but after one blood transfusion, he is alright.

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lol

tranquil radish
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its kakyoin was worrying as he may not be able to see Jotaros mom again

arctic trail
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the total madlad milf hunter

weary turret
tranquil radish
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legal in japan

wintry rampart
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fave band Sting

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I bet he banged all his slays to Fields of Gold

wintry rampart
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I felt so bad for Iggy.

tranquil radish
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araki + dog = oof

wintry rampart
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yea

foggy sierra
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Kakyoin did you lay this egg

molten pecan
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Jotaro is the best jojo

near starBOT
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@molten pecan, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

crimson jewel
tepid shard
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Worst part of Part 3, hands down.

crimson jewel
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@tepid shard ya its bs

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stands are always adults

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Death 13 stand is an adult

tepid shard
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No, I meant the worst as in.

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I fucking hate it.

crimson jewel
wintry rampart
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worst part of part 3 was Death 13, imo.

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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Tho than again, maybe you are right

tepid shard
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Death 13 didn't torture as many children.

wintry rampart
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oh, that is why you hate it.

tepid shard
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That's a reason other people may hate it.

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It's the most relatable one.

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I like Death 13 because it deals in dreams which is cool.
And Alessi's age regressing ability disgusts me because of a certain few scenes.

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And also because what the fuck.

wintry rampart
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Alessi's episode was just kind of meh, imo.

tepid shard
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Not meh, it's the only episode of JoJo that makes me uncomfortable.

wintry rampart
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I guess so.

meager light
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iggy's death was terrible

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araki's stand is that he gets an extra year of life for every anime dog he kills

meager light
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What is that?

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The OVA?

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Someone told me Iggys death was worse there so I didn’t watch it

junior garnet
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SP really has nothing under that loincloth huh

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Iggy's OVA death is brutal

meager light
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Jotaro’s hat turned iggy into a man dog

hardy beacon
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who da fuck decided "lallli hoooo" was a thing people said?

junior garnet
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*loli hoe

meager light
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I can’t let my guard down around araki

near starBOT
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@meager light, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

meager light
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Every single dog I see is always dead. I can’t care for any of them

hardy beacon
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the jobros are in danger too

meager light
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Literally one of the best anime’s because not every character has thick plot armor

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They die when you least expect them to

hardy beacon
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yeah but you expect them to die

meager light
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But then they don’t

hardy beacon
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you expect someone to die

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someone you like dies in each part

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I think

meager light
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No?

hardy beacon
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we can't spoil beyond 3 in here

meager light
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I’m only on diamond so take everything with a grain of salt

hardy beacon
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part 1 It's uhh Jonathan and his dad before that

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part 2 caesar

meager light
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Oh

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I thought u meant main character

hardy beacon
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no

meager light
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I got u

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Caesars death came out of nowhere

hardy beacon
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Joseph and Lisa Lisa slow af outside

meager light
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But so far Joseph is my favorite JoJo

hardy beacon
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yeah he's clearly the most fun

meager light
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Jotaro is just op. As soon as theme starts playing you know he won lmao

hardy beacon
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yeeeeep

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and someone like Avdol doesn't even get an episode to themselves

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or a main fight

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he just double dies

meager light
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I mean he was out for like 10 episodes

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But yeah even the dog got an episode lol

hardy beacon
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yeah and when he came back he didn't get to be awesome

meager light
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He walks into the mansion and just dies

hardy beacon
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most fights were solved by ora ora

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and a few battle of wits

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with the Darby bros

meager light
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Those episodes were great

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The Darby ones were the best in the season imo

hardy beacon
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at some point I'll rewatch part 3

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I kind of went through it quickly

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maybe will try to rank em

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I agree those were good ones

meager light
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I started watching on Thursday lmao

hardy beacon
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lol

meager light
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I thought Jotaros arc was 24 episodes

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Then there was battle in Egypt

hardy beacon
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lol

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yeah I was curious about that at first

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part 3 drags and is episodic

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so it's considered a weaker part by some

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despite how iconic it is

meager light
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I thought that it was weird that it was episode 22 and Dio hasn’t shown himself

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Oingo boingo was also good

near starBOT
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@meager light, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

hardy beacon
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yes

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and I'll always remember Hol Horse sticking his finger up Polnaref's nose

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yes!

meager light
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Do u think his watch was fast because of zaaaa wardoooo?

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That’s one thing that stuck out

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Or would it just be coincidence?

hardy beacon
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I don't remember well enough to say

junior garnet
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On the note of Part 3 dragging

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it only really drags in the anime

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In the manga, it's shorter than Part 4

hardy beacon
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I've only seen the anime so fair point

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I loved reading 5-8

meager light
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Did they add extra parts? Or just make scenes longer?

hardy beacon
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so at some point I'll go check 1-4 of the manga

junior garnet
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152 chapters compared to 174

meager light
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Because there definitely wasn’t a need for them to make everything 2 parts

junior garnet
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They mostly extended scenes

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A lot of shit was drawn-out

meager light
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Literally every enemy stand had 2 episodes even the old hag

junior garnet
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Same techniques you see to fit as little content as possible into a 22 minute episode in One Piece, except on a smaller scale

meager light
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Also one thing I don’t get

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Is the weird ratings they give to stands

junior garnet
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Yeah ignore those they're bullshit and mean nothing

meager light
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Lmao

junior garnet
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They were only introduced in the manga in Part 5, so for the Part 3 and 4 animes Araki went back and gave ratings to all the Stands Actually he might've done it in an artbook idr

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He gave SP all As

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And then decided that Part 3 enemies weren't allowed to have As because they weren't supposed to measure up at all or something

meager light
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Loool

junior garnet
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And A gun with fully controlled bullets has an E in precision

meager light
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Yeah it was weird

junior garnet
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Once you get to like Part 6 most of the stats don't even have definitions for some of the Stands because they can be abilities a lot

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So sometimes a stat for one category will be "null" "infinite" or "doesn't apply"

meager light
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Lmao

crimson jewel
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D'arby is cool 😮

weary turret
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Death 13 says "Lali-ho" cause it's a reference to Dragon Quest 1

wintry rampart
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First the D'Arby episodes,
then i just saw the Hol Horse and Boingo eps

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jojo is flawless

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i kind of hope hol horse gets more episodes, but i think that was his last

wanton turret
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sorry to say, hoingo really is his last episode

wintry rampart
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noooo

weary turret
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rip cowboy man

wintry rampart
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hes such a good character though

weary turret
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at least he survives the part

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got off better than a lot of villains

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Araki Said that a big reason was because he was too similar to Polnareff yeah

wintry rampart
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good point
....not that id mind 2 polnareffs

weary turret
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and also he was never intended to replace abdul

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polnareff did let him off easy in cairo because abdul turned out to have been alive

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i think part of it might have been that a controllable bullet missed any vital areas

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just say something like "i did it on purpose because i, hol horse, am not a dick" and everyone could be like "wow he's not a dick. lets all go kick dio's ass"

meager light
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Battle in Egypt definitely has the worst op right?

dim light
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all the ops are amazing

meager light
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I like the beginning

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But then it just turns into something weird

dim light
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its art

meager light
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All the ops are good but I think battle in Egypt is the least good

dim light
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its just taste really

weary turret
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you are watching jojo's bizarre adventure

dim light
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listen to it

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a few times

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and mind is changed

tribal quest
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some ppl have different opinions

meager light
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What is your ranked list for the ops?

tribal quest
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i love chase, i don't like sono chi no sadame as much as the others

hollow socket
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Chase deserves more love

dim light
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i dont have a ranked

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they are all #1

frail cedar
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End of the World is one of my favorites. Better than Stand Proud imo

near starBOT
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@frail cedar, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

timber hearth
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So what did Holy do after stardust crusader

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Did her stand just disapeared

opal quiver
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Essentially

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Perhaps Araki will expand upon that eventually

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But probably not

meager light
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Why did Holly’s disappear but not everyone else’s?

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Even ||Josuke|| kept his. But holly didn’t

timber hearth
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If i had one dollar for every character that disapears in jojo history i would be Bill Gates

weary turret
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holy was fundamentally incompatable with a stand

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with practice, she might have been able to manifest it again

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in a more useful way, probably

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but it has become dormant and she doesn't have any actual use of it

meager light
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So she still technically has it?

near starBOT
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@meager light, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

weary turret
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it makes more sense if you read the later parts

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yes. she can see stands

meager light
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Ah ok

weary turret
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there's no reason to think it would disappear entirely

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it wouldn't make sense

cloud plank
wanton turret
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Aww cute

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Iggy in irl

weary turret
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iggy look out cream's coming

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oh my god

gleaming bobcat
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dies

jolly wagon
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Iggy is definitely one of my favorite characters

tepid shard
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He's not good until Petshop.

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Which that's from.

weary turret
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he's a funny asshole dog from the start

jolly wagon
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i have so many screenshots

near starBOT
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@jolly wagon, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

jolly wagon
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He eat the lollipop

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What about the ass sand?

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any good iggy merch

spring ravine
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tmw there’s no chat of iggy pictures

frail cedar
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DM me iggy pics

spring ravine
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DM me iggy pics

frail cedar
spring ravine
frail cedar
meager light
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iggy looked like a normal ass dog until jotaro's hat attacked him

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i cant trust araki at all. every animal i see i've got to be wary of

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can't let iggy 2.0 if there is one get me

weary turret
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fresh jojo theory: jotaro's hat mutates whatever touches it

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jotaro wears it and it melts into his head

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iggy touches it and he becomes a fucking puppy

foggy sierra
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Jingle Bells, Dio Smells, Kakyoin laid an egg

worthy cedar
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stand proud sucked

frail cedar
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stand proud is 800% better when the instrumental is ken's theme instead of the actual instrumental

wintry rampart
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i finally saw the YES YES YES YES episode

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it was better than i thought itd be

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...

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ora

neat fable
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👏

wintry rampart
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is vanilla ice a wordplay or something?

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hmm

weary turret
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vanilla ice is a 90s rapper actually

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ice ice baby?

wintry rampart
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ohhh now i get it

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tbh im starting to think a lot of character references are going over my head

weary turret
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they're more or less all references, so probably

meager light
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fuck vanilla ice

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he killed the best character in the entire show

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but almost everything in jojo's is named after a band or a song or an artist

wintry rampart
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Vanilla Ice is cool, but at the same time 😔 he deserved getting his ass kick.

Funny thing is, that was at the moment when I was like "Man, I guess they really tone down on the main characters deaths in this season"

wanton turret
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Vanilla Ice and his stand is also a play on words

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Vanilla Ice Cream

dire ledge
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J. Geil, the man with two right hands, the user of a stand named after the Hanged Man Tarot card. The album cover for the J Geils Band's album Centerfold has a man hanging upside down like the card and the members wearing clothes with stains shaped like a right hand on them

wanton turret
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wow, this is actually pretty deep lmao

dire ledge
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This is my hobby now lol

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Finding deeply hidden references

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thanks

wanton turret
#

great work, i never knew about that wang chan one and that was hella deep

dire ledge
#

Haha thanks

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Araki introduced me to so much good music

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Just for fun, name something from Jojo named after a musical reference and I'll try to find connections

wanton turret
#

hol horse i guess, i like hol

dire ledge
#

Good one

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Well, he is named after Hall and Oates, their most famous song is "Private eyes" which is...kind of a stalker song really. My theory is that the lyrics are what inspired the first episode he appears in and the power's of J Geil/ Centerfold's stand as he keeps jumping through reflections in people's eyes in the episode.

odd delta
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Devo can fuck his stand

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This is important information I'd like all of you to know

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Goodnight

dire ledge
#

Considering that the only part of Devo that remained intact were his genitals as Polnareff explained, it would make sense

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lmao

odd delta
#

Devo's stand can piss, which means it has basic anatomy

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Which means that it probably has a penis or ass

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So Devo could fuck it

wanton turret
#

how about we not have this topic

dire ledge
#

Haha, sorry

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It was kinda random

odd delta
#

It's an important topic but I suppose we can change if need be

ancient mirage
#

yea hi im new to the server and i have a consperasy

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about jotaro

dire ledge
#

hmm?

odd delta
#

let's hear it

ancient mirage
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you know in the begining of stardust crusadors wwhen jotaro is i jail

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how did he get all the stuff to the jailcell ?

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well what i think is that jotaro has always ben avalible to stop time

dire ledge
#

I think it was kind of confirmed really

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He just needed to learn to perfect it

odd delta
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I don't see how he could both leave the cell and get the things to the cell without having a hole in the wall during timestop, as his timestop lasts 2 seconds (presumably as that's what it goes down to when he forgets how to perfect it), I see it to be more of a:
Object goes past cell, Star Platinum yoinks it and gives it to Jotaro

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Because if he knew how to timestop he'd probably already know that he had his stand, and therefore wouldn't need to shoot himself.

dire ledge
#

My theory is that all super fast stands like Star Platinum/The World have the potential for such time manipulation, but that since even the ultra fast Star Platinum can only do it for a split second, stands that are just a little bit slower than it will never really be able to unleash that potential

ancient mirage
#

ok that makes sense

odd delta
#

Right, but Silver Chariot was confirmed to be faster than Star Platinum, yet he wasn't able to time stop or do anything aside from just stab fast.

ancient mirage
#

ok

dire ledge
#

I mean, SP is super perceptive, I'm sure he could easily open the cell and take the stuff

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Jotaro could have left at any moment but decided not to

odd delta
#

Yeah, that we know, he didn't want to leave because of the scary spirit inside of him, being spooky & all.

dire ledge
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He could pick the lock with ease that's what I'm saying

odd delta
#

Yeah, I suppose. But since Jotaro never leaves the room, how could SP get the stuff? His range is 5 meters.

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If he tried to leave, the cops would be like "yo" as he doesn't time stop, per say.

dire ledge
#

Araki probably thought that SP was too overpowered and gave him a small range later

ancient mirage
#

one thing im mad at is that they did not meat silver chariot in part 4

near starBOT
#

@ancient mirage, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

wanton turret
#

that's a spoiler

ancient mirage
#

ooh sry my bad

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my exuse is that im new

odd delta
#

I mean, he's mad that they didn't encounter it, not much of a spoiler there, just a little complaint.

dire ledge
#

I wish Hermit Purple wasn't so underused in part 3

odd delta
#

I wish all of the sidekick stands were actually used to their full potential.

ancient mirage
#

silver chariot is by far the coolest stand of all time just saying

dire ledge
#

Meh too short

odd delta
#

Nuh-uh.

dire ledge
#

lol

odd delta
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Ebony Devil exists.

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By far my favorite enemy stand.

ancient mirage
#

wow thats cool

dire ledge
#

Dark Blue Moon has the most beautiful design imo

odd delta
#

Dark Blue Moon was cool.

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A stand I'd like to have would have to be d'arby's Osiris

near starBOT
#

@odd delta, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

odd delta
#

shut up robot @near star

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:(

dire ledge
#

You know what I hate about that stand? It's only super powerful in water, but it doesn't let it's user breathe underwater and the user has to be near because it's range is poor

odd delta
#

It's a neat stand, not a big fan of the fight per say, but I like the design.

dire ledge
#

Osiris is cool, but it doesn't have a mind reading power like his counterpart

odd delta
#

His older brother, young d'arby

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Or was it actually that the younger was called young, and the older called the elder?

dire ledge
#

You know what I'd like to have? Strength/Wheel of Fortune (pretty much the same stand) Imagine being able to take any object and bind a stand to it and have that object evolve into a super good version of it?

near starBOT
#

@dire ledge, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

odd delta
#

Tenore Sax is probably the strongest enemy, to be honest.

dire ledge
#

Like take an old computer and use the stand on it and you get the most powerful gaming machine in the world

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Tenore Sax still gives me nightmares

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I thought the crew wouldn't beat it for a second

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😉

odd delta
#

I too thought it was gonna be a party wipe happyjon

torpid oar
#

People really saying F Mega heat

quiet shadow
#

j-j-j-j-jAGUArs

tribal quest
#

tf oh that's a baseball is trash

#

f-mega is clearly better??? fake gamers

wintry rampart
undone sinew
#

delet this

granite lagoon
#

does anyone have a link to Avdol's them FIRE OF SOUL from the medley of stardust?

#

i dont want a cover i wnat the original without all the other songs

meager light
#

Listening to the English dubs pronounce the Japanese names is always hilarious

#

Kakyion is cock eu ween

weary turret
#

7th stand user is good if you like classic-style rpgs and SDC

#

yeah there's neat things like that too, but it's still very much an RPGMaker rpg

#

oh yeah i love em

#

not for everyone tho

wintry rampart
#

Tower of Grey in the school

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Or wait

#

That was the first one

#

Just jjba

weary turret
#

what

#

anyway the music's jammin too i forgot

#

oh yeah! forgot about that

wintry rampart
#

thats it, jjba is bs

#

part1 with the hamon glider
part2 with the hand scene
and now polnareff isnt actually dead!?

#

i mean

#

im glad hes alive, and jojo bs is awesome

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but how did iggy save him

weary turret
#

jojo's always been blatantly and openly bs lol

wintry rampart
#

oh well, jojo is jojo

granite lagoon
#

Would be a pretty useless stand

last coral
#

If only Joseph maintained his BT iq, fighting exp and mastered hamon

last coral
#

Probably looks like Straizo when he fought Joseph, or at least almost as young. Since he was a Hamon master for years already, even before he met Jonathan

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Straizo was 70-ish at that point I think

#

But lookin like 30s

#

That's not Straizo

wintry rampart
#

Yes it is

last coral
#

Wait wat

wintry rampart
#

I was confused too when I saw him like that in the manga

#

He got even younger when he became a vampire

last coral
#

Straizo has long hair

wintry rampart
#

And got long black hair

#

We know he does

#

But he didnt have it until he turned into a vampire

last coral
#

Was the BT Straizo without vampirism had that low screentime I didn't notice he had short hair at some point

wintry rampart
#

Yes

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He had like

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3 minutes of screentime

#

Then he got even younger

last coral
wintry rampart
#

Because that's how stone masks and hamon work

last coral
#

Still

#

He still had a lot of hamon within those 3 mins

#

He one shotted a lot of hamon masters

#

Joseph with vines was nowhere near

wintry rampart
#

Joseph stopped practicing hamon as far as we know

#

Also I prefer old Joseph's early design

#

From the first part 3 arc

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Or the last part 2 arc?

#

Idk

#

He had a cooler beard

last coral
#

He lost his tricks, which made up a lot for his lack of mastery before he met lisalisa

#

Last episode of BT

#

They had to change it for the art style of SC

#

Sadly

wintry rampart
#

The old Joseph we needed

wintry rampart
#

...

#

when joseph and avdol fought the magnet stand user

#

how did joseph get up to attack at the end

#

the scene showed his hand in a drain with him floating up somehow

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i didnt get it

weary turret
#

he wasn't standing still; he was using all of his power to hold onto the grate so that he could smash into mariah and abdul at the right moment

wanton turret
#

Smash abdul zoomeyes

weary turret
#

i would

granite blade
#

i wish jotaro's grandfather had his own part

#

he would fit as a jojo

weary turret
#

lol what would he do? fight super-vampires?

wanton turret
#

Same, we coulda known what happened for him to get a robot hand

#

If only we had that kind of part..

weary turret
#

ah well

last coral
#

What kind of battles?

#

As bizarre as sending cars to outer space?

wanton turret
#

Now that would be bizarre

#

Almost as bizarre as having a friend that uses bubbles for combat

#

Not that we know of such friend at all

odd geyser
#

I love this. just everyone fantasizing about Joseph having a bizarre adventure and a tendency to battle

near starBOT
#

@odd geyser, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

wintry rampart
#

I dont know any part with that name

calm furnace
#

Ok so i discovered a thing

#

During the egypt hen op

#

It shows how every crusader dies

#

Yeah il

#

Ik*

river coral
ornate merlin
#

Oh no

rugged relic
#

Anubis is an object-bound stand, right?

weary turret
#

yes

rugged relic
#

So some poor soul without a stand could wield it huh?

weary turret
#

three poor souls without a stand have wielded it

rugged relic
#

Ah

#

I haven't watched SC in a long time, my memory is pretty rusty

weary turret
#

presumably, some agent of DIO leaves it laying around in that town in egypt

#

a farmhand named Chaka picks it up, and tries to kill polnareff

rugged relic
#

Ahh

#

I remember it now

weary turret
#

polnareff takes it with him, and eventually a barber named Khan touches it and gets possessed

#

and after jotaro busts a part of it off, a kid picks it up and gets possessed

rugged relic
#

We watch Chaka get possessed and massacre some people

weary turret
#

including his own father

#

:(

rugged relic
#

:(

#

"Yo this sword looks pretty sweet, we can sell it and make some money"

#

Famous last words

gusty path
#

does jotaro do 5s ts in sc or was it just stated that he could

junior garnet
#

Since DIO counts to 11 and then can't move, and Jotaro stopped time as soon as DIO stopped, that means DIO could move for 2 seconds in Jotaro's time like how Jotaro could move for 2 seconds in DIO's time

#

As Jotaro's time remains stopped after those 2 seconds, we know that it was more than 2 seconds. I don't think we get a specific length stated, though.

wintry rampart
#

i finished part3, but there was no episode about kakyoin an an egg iirc

#

is it manga exclusive or something?

junior garnet
#

It's

#

There's a group called CLAMP

#

They wrote and published a fanfic called JoJo's Bizarre Married Life

crimson jewel
#

if he dies to sunlight he should be dead rigt here

#

right here

junior garnet
#

This is before he was a vampire

wintry rampart
#

yea it was a slow transition

crimson jewel
worthy cedar
#

wtf dialogue right there

robust carbon
#

Nani

foggy sierra
#

R.I.P. Iggy

#

Also I forgot that dude existed

crimson jewel
magic reef
#

Fuck I was too slow

crimson jewel
#

youre too late, wew lad

fast pilot
#

So where does Jotaro's hat finish and hair start

magic reef
#

Yes

weary turret
#

the hat is part of his body

foggy sierra
#

Also that’s a part two meme

wintry rampart
#

I wonder, whos that Senator guys name who drove Dio around Egypt?

#

The one who drove on the Sidewalk and killed multiple people

crimson jewel
#

HOLD UP WTF

#

SINCE WHEN CAN DIO AND JOTARO FLY?!

weary turret
#

eh

#

his name was senator wilson philips

#

an odd name for an egyptian government official but jojo has never really had sensical names

weary turret
#

why would he be in egypt

#

i don't see why he would be a US senator

weary turret
#

i don't think there's any source saying he wouldn't be an egyptian senator

#

well actually, did egypt have a senate in 1989?

gritty coyote
#

I pretty sure I recall him screaming "I AM A US SENATOR" at Dio at some point

#

He might be in Egypt for diplomatic reasons

#

(Idk why they'd send a senator instead of an ambassador tho)

weary turret
#

i don't think he ever specified his country of origin

wintry rampart
#

did holly lose her stand after p3?
and what was her stand, anyway? it looked similar to hermit purple

#

do i find out later?

#

It wasnt a stand

#

because the jojos never lost theirs

#

wdym

#

She was unable to get a stand so she got a disease instead

weary turret
#

it was a stand. it went presumably dormant but it still exists

vernal pendant
#

it was a stand

wintry rampart
#

It was a stand disease hybrid

#

i wonder what it did

#

oh well

#

Nothing

#

It did nothing

#

wouldve done i mean

weary turret
#

it was some kind of untouchable vine

#

it's explained a bit more in a future part

wintry rampart
#

gotcha, thanks

weary turret
#

worst stand in practice

#

best stand in theory? maybe

muted iris
#

ORA

timber hearth
#

Remember that time when Silver Charior was able to cut the air itself

#

And that time when the emperor bullet was able to dodge that fast sword

autumn dragon
#

Remember when they said people get killed by their own stands if they're not strong enough

wintry rampart
#

@autumn dragon that's still a thing????

#

OOPS

#

Part 3

#

Fuck fuck fuck

#

Ok I deleted my spoilers

autumn dragon
#

meme

crimson jewel
timber hearth
#

Jojo friday today

crimson jewel
#

so I finished part 3

#

it isnt explained on how people get their stands power

#

how can DIO give people stand power by just being alive lol

pine mist
#

dio 'gave' people stands by getting one himself, which because of family roots means everyone closely related to jonathan got a stand

#

he didnt just give random people stands, only joestars and kujos

#

and how other people get their stands is explained at a later point

lucid hound
#

but when DIO die the offspring born after that get nothing right?

pine mist
#

yes, since it was only DIO getting a stand that triggered it in everyone else

wintry rampart
#

Can Jotaro use Hamon?

granite blade
#

there was once where i was genuinly about to skip part 3 because it was long af, but after finishing part 4 i watched through it and it was good

#

just that some minor villains were kind off boring at times and stalled

rocky swallow
#

I think Jotaro probably has the potential to use hamon but nope, he's never used it in canon

granite blade
#

jotaro using sunlight yellow overdrive

last coral
#

If Jotaro learned Hamon

#

Dio would die in no time

rocky swallow
#

Sunlight Yellow Overdrive-powered ORA ORA ORA

last coral
#

Oraora with Hamon sfx

wintry rampart
#

instead of using his wishes to look cool, why didnt avdol wish to know about dio's stand?

#

the only rule was that a wish couldnt be undone, right

last coral
#

I thought it was only a sick one-liner

#

If my memory serves right

wintry rampart
#

yea thats what i mean

#

but instead of that

#

like, they couldve gotten information out of the stand before beating it

last coral
#

It's risky I guess

wintry rampart
#
  1. know about dio's stand power
  2. know where dio is
  3. [i doubt the stand could kill dio, prob too weak]
last coral
#

The stand twisted the wishes

wintry rampart
#

well yea

#

true

last coral
#

Even though it did grant the wish

#

Also

#

For the plot

#

Yea

wintry rampart
#

yea, every wish backfired except polnareffs first one

last coral
#

Polnareff had 2 I think, both screwed up

#

Lmao

wintry rampart
#

lol

#

yea that makes sense, you got me

last coral
#

It's not about the stand

#

It's about the user

#

Still disappointed Hamon got nerfed so bad

last coral
#

Caesar controlled a woman

#

He almost killed Joseph by reflecting spiked pastas

#

Hamon bubbles

#

Hamon for heals

#

Zoom Ora would be dope

#

Dio knives atk but with hamon

#

No I mean, the Crusader team doing something like that

granite veldt
#

hamon isn't useless against living things. with the right amount, it can kill or stun a human (like how Susie Q. would have died if she took a direct hamon punch or how Joseph knocked out the pilot when Speedwagon was getting kidnapped).

#

also, Jonathan controlled a snake with his hamon so that it would attack its master, remember Doobie?

last coral
#

Oh right

#

It can stun humans

#

How many times did SP to Ora an enemy user to death

#

Even Jonathan can do it

#

Oraing the enemy user to death

granite veldt
#

also, Caeser used hamon to end Mark's misery.

ocean mauve
#

Rip

last coral
#

Rip Mark

#

Not enough screentime

dim light
#

amazing

granite veldt
#

doesn't detract from the fact it has other uses.

#

i would assume so as well because hamon would have killed Susie Q.

river coral
#

am i the only one who heavily dislikes that end of the 70's video

#

I just think it doesn't fit at all

vernal pendant
#

yes

wintry rampart
#

@river coral

#

Im with you

#

butchered both 'got to be real' and sono chi no sadame at the same time.

round gorge
#

!rank

near starBOT
river coral
#

uh

#

wrong channel?

calm solstice
wintry rampart
#

DIO lived for like 130 years and never once drove

last linden
#

Think about how Dio saw everything

#

Everything changed from when he was a kid

meager light
#

wasn't dio underwater for like 100 years

#

how would he know how to drive?

#

also he could only come out at night and would read a shit ton

meager light
#

is it just me or is za warudo's sound effect great

weary turret
#

it's good

coral radish
#

no i love it

mental pasture
#

ye boi

coral radish
#

i need to change my name

#

yes there

last coral
#

dubstep fart + clocks ticking

misty sundial
#

you expected a "but it was me Dio" joke but it was me Dio

bright python
#

U are big laugh funny man

bright python
#

Wrong part m8

odd geyser
copper topaz
rugged relic
#

Guys I don't remember Part 3 that well, can someone remind me how Kakyoin and Polnareff met DIO?

#

Did they go to Egypt at some point before the events of Stardust Crusaders?

weary turret
#

kakyoin was on vacation in egypt with his parents

#

i don't really remember polnareff's reason... i think he was in egypt hunting down j. geil

rugged relic
#

Ahh J Geil makes sense

weary turret
#

i mean it makes sense, and i think they made the right choice... but it still feels kinda goofy

timber hearth
#

The most dangerous thing that Jotaro did in part 3 was flying the same plane as Joseph after they deafeated Dio

meager light
#

iggy sounds like danny devito dafuq

hardy beacon
#

hesa Newyorker

meager light
#

eh makes sense

#

but its goofy as fuck for a dog

meager light
#

honestly the saddest moment for me

#

the music and everything

#

😦

meager light
#

the way araki pulled a 180 on iggy's character and then killed him is the worst part

#

yeah could see the premise in that for a couple of episodes but not like an entire season

wintry rampart
#

YOOO

#

JOJO IS DEAD AVDOL IS DEAD KAKYOIN IS DEAD IGGGGGGGYYYYYYYY

#

THIS ZA WARUDO SHIT IS TOO MUCH

#

@wintry rampart Joseph

#

Jojo II

#

YOOOOO

hollow socket
#

Hehehe

wintry rampart
#

THIS EMOTE FIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPENING

meager light
#

Turning 17 in less then two weeks! So pumped to finally get to journey to Egypt with my grandpa, my best friend, a frenchman, a fortune teller, and a dog and fight a vampire who stole my Great-Great Grandfather's body with a punchghost of my very own <3
#justgirlythings

copper topaz
#

josepHHM josukEEH hmm

languid epoch
#

Anyone else support the "star platniuns true ability is to grow and change"theory?

last coral
#

Same types of stands and descendant

#

I follow thee

#

Unless we're told how long Dio timestops are without taking his Vampirism into consideration

#

Since Jotaro has 2 secs I think

junior garnet
#

Jotaro stops time for more than two seconds at the end of SDC.

#

Because DIO can move in two seconds of Jotaro's time before he gets stopped. Since DIO gets stopped at all, Jotaro has more than two seconds

#

We're not given a specific number here, though

last coral
#

The time stops aren't even accurate in the anime

#

They talk longer than the seconds they mentioned

#

It must be stated and let's just assume that's how it works

junior garnet
#

The time stops are measured by how much time you have to act

#

So if you stand around talking, you're not acting on anything, so that doesn't eat up your time

copper topaz
#

dio has a max of 10 seconds, and jotaro has a max of 5, dont they?

junior garnet
#

It's commonly believed Jotaro does 5, but we don't get a number

#

Pre-Joseph succ, DIO had 5

#

post-succ he had 9

weary turret
#

but by the time he road roller'd jotaro he could do 10

junior garnet
#

No

#

Jotaro can move for 2 seconds in DIO's time

#

DIO can, presumably, move for 2 seconds in Jotaro's time

#

Since DIO counts 11 seconds then stops moving, DIO stopped time for 9, then Jotaro stopped time immediately afterwards, with DIO continuing to move for 2 seconds before Jotaro had full control.

wintry rampart
#

The stand proud song makes me nut

jaunty moon
#

Hey guys, I just realized something

#

If Holly couldn't handle her stand due to her not having the fighting will or whatever, then how the hell could a baby have a working stand? Of course the baby is a genius, but is that really enough for it have it's own stand?

weary turret
#

explained better in later parts

languid epoch
#

@jaunty moon Holly is,sad to say,spoiled and devolped it late in life. Shiza was probably born with her Stand like kakyoin or avdol.

languid epoch
#

Theory: khunum technically has no form it's part of oingos body.

wintry rampart
#

oingo boingo

#

I think khnum just looks like the actual deity

#

just like anubis looks like well anubis

languid epoch
#

Why don't we see it then? It might be like Metallica. It's bound to oingos body

wintry rampart
#

true

#

we dont see t h o t either

weary turret
#

many stands have no physical form

wintry rampart
#

most importantly, why is telence d'arby's stand (atum) the creator deity and the most powerful egyptian dety in ancient egyptian mythology but relatively weak within jojo

languid epoch
#

Ra is tbe Creator. Atum-ra technically

wintry rampart
#

according to the myth, atum creater other egyptian deities by jacking off

#

there was nothing before atum

languid epoch
#

Ra is the Creator. Atum-ra technically

wintry rampart
#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atum
"In the Heliopolitan creation myth, Atum was considered to be the first God, having created himself, sitting on a mound (benben) (or identified with the mound itself), from the primordial waters (Nu).[6] Early myths state that Atum created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut by spitting them out of his mouth.[7] To explain how Atum did this, the myth uses the metaphor of masturbation, with the hand he used in this act representing the female principle inherent within him.[8] Other interpretations state that he has made union with his shadow.[9]"

Atum (/ɑ.tum/, Egyptian: jtm(w) or tm(w); Coptic ⲁⲧⲟⲩⲙ Atoum), sometimes rendered as Atem or Tem, is an important deity in Egyptian mythology.

near starBOT
#

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

wintry rampart
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theres a lot of myths about it

languid epoch
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Isn't he and Ra the same person?

wintry rampart
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he is associated to ra

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atum was the evening sun
ra was the morning sun

languid epoch
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Ah ok. So,parts of one deity.
I wonder what Tenor Sax looks like?

weary turret
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as far as we know, it has no physical form

tranquil kiln
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n'doul: literally appears 2-3 minutes before the encounter with the crusaders
jojotubers:

neat fable
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Same lmao

languid epoch
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Anyone mind helping me with editing Arabia fats tv tropes page?

near starBOT
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@languid epoch, Your Gangstar cred is now level 12 !

neat fable
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Who?

languid epoch
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The Sun's user. It's understandable you don't recognize him.

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I just help adding 2 sentences to his sheet.

languid epoch
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Would anyone like to know what I would like added?

weary turret
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sure

languid epoch
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Under "wearing a flag on your head" put " it could just be Astonishingly Appropriate Apperance (with link to page). Since,to this troper,it kinda looks like the sun."

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Sound good to add?

weary turret
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yup

languid epoch
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Thank you. I'd do it myself, but I don't know how to link to pages.

weary turret
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my computer's dead... hrm

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i'm not sure where i left the charger... i'll add it in a bit

languid epoch
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Ok. Thank you very much.

wintry rampart
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looking back, silver chariot never dual wielded his blade like in the op 2
he kind of did with the blade stand, but it wasnt the same sword

wanton turret
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That was the OP's way of foreshadowing it

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Instead of just showing he'd he holding a different sword

flat dock
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Just finished watching the lovers part 1 and 2...

damn.

weary turret
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ora

hollow socket
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Steely Dan must be invincible if he could survive that ora rush

weary turret
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we don't actually know if he did tbf

wintry rampart
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Yes we do.

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He lived according to Araki.

weary turret
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dota

copper topaz
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OH GOOOOD

crimson jewel
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what I really dislike about part 3 is that

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would be funny if theres jojo part 3 abridged

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make Jotaro strangely addicted to caesar salad

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and then Joseph start crying whenever Jotaro eat

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Jotaro: eating
Joseph in the background: CAESARRR!!! KILL! KILL KILL KILL!!! KILL ALL PILLARMEN!

wintry rampart
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the same guy who killed 4 deities almost died from an escalator

crimson jewel
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theyre not gods

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just superhumans

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pillar MAN

vagrant ledge
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hello

crimson jewel
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Pornhub: Muslim guy stick to old grandpa from behind

worthy cedar
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Do you not have anything better to do.

wintry rampart
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unorthodox indeed

gusty path
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juice wrld more like jotaro sp: wrld

copper topaz
near starBOT
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@copper topaz, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

wintry rampart
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yeah same Smile

odd geyser
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I love how star platinum has such precision it's main "ability" is to throw a random barage of punches

worthy cedar
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bro did you see how he drawed tho

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thats why his precision is high

odd geyser
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no, it's because he can catch a f***in bullet

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I'm just pointing out that Jotaro doesn't understand he's wasting energy "if that's how stands work" and a small bit of time. instead focusing the punches on weaker parts of the body would help in efficiency

wintry rampart
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jotaro could've made a lot of money out of reviving heart attack patients since his star platinum can make hearts beat again

near starBOT
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@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

odd geyser
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yeh but araki forgot

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omg

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especially (spoilers for DiU)

solid bane
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well it's good that jotaro decided to follow his passion

near starBOT
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@solid bane, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

odd geyser
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oh sh*t these might be considered spoilers ||well there are probably lots of dolphins dying in JJBA because araki forgot|| ok, fixed it

unreal fern
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Yeah

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And he actually was trying to make Santana good

near starBOT
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@unreal fern, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

wintry rampart
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Jotaro likes to punch

junior garnet
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He was trying to gauge Santana's personality

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There's a big difference between messing with your enemy to see their temperament and making panty jokes and doing dumb handshakes while the enemy's primed to kill you

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I don't remember that. Might be dub-only

solid bane
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stands have different abilities, some yet unknown
know that stand users are coming after them
one member starts acting weird out of nowhere, without any precedents
"lol he be crazy lmao stop acting weird lul stay focused"

wintry rampart
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it wont happen, but hopefully araki makes a part 11 or whatever that somehow has hol horse

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but good, so he can stay in more than 1 or 2 episodes

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well like

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i said 11 because i have no clue how many parts are made yet

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on p4 ep 7 rn

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as far as i can tell, theres at least 8

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bullseye

junior garnet
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I misread that as "bullshit" for a sec and was a bit confused

orchid veldt
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my friend is finally on the last episode of Part 3

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I can't wait for them to see ROADA ROLLER DA

neat fable
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Lol

last linden
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So

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I uh

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Finished part 3

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I cried

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A lot

neat fable
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Understandable

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Would you like to talk about it?

ocean mauve
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Go watch part 4 reeee

neat fable
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Lol

last linden
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It's 10:37

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I'm not gonna start P4

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Oh lord

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Iggy actually made me cry

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Kakyoin made me ball

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Avdol made me shed a tear

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I hate Dio and Vanilla Ice

neat fable
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Kakyoin is my bf ;-;

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I'm really sad that he died

untold elm
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This part of jojo was the best

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Bring back jotaro plx

tepid shard
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Read the manga.

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He's there.

neat fable
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Kek

lone fiber
wanton turret
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Hey uh

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Spoilers???????????

copper topaz
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how is this spoilers?

wanton turret
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You're talking about things tha happen after this part

copper topaz
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shit sorry

neat fable
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We didn't discuss any spoilers but alright

copper topaz
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isnt he only there for cameos pretty much?

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i havent finished 5 and 6

neat fable
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I haven't read the manga, so I couldn't say

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I'd recommend asking in the corresponding channels for a more in depth answer

orchid veldt
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My friend wants an explanation for why Joseph isn't a vampire, what do I tell them

wintry rampart
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Araki forgot

orchid veldt
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how can Araki forget this was something Araki did in the moment and even acknowledged the possibility

tepid shard
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Simple.
He's a Hamon Warrior.

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He's got Hamon in his blood canceling the vampire.

wintry rampart
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yeah. that.

last linden
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So about Za Warudo

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Like

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Why did it get stronger the more Dio was connected to Jonathan