stardust-crusaders

[lusty karma]

yea and?

we arent spoiling anything, so who cares

fuck, i mentioned jolyne and ermes earlier

yea

and?

[meager spade]

[lusty karma]

thats literally the most minor of spoilers

it barely even qualifies

[meager spade]

"like jotaro married a woman"

[lusty karma]

really?????

thats not even a plot point for anything, it just ecplains the existance of the part 6 jojo

[meager spade]

there's a part 6?

[lusty karma]

...?

y-yeah?

i know you know

seriously, saying the name of the (eventual) main antagonist and the fact that jotaro got married doesnt spoil bloody anything

hell, i knew about kira before inwatched part 4 and its my favorite fuckin part now

[meager spade]

some people don't and i think you should respect people going in blind

[lusty karma]

dude

come on

his name could practically show up in a back-of-the-book synopsis

and seriously, jotaro gettimg married, that really doesnt fuckin matter

[raw condor]

is it really a spoiler to know there are multiple parts?

[meager spade]

no,

[raw condor]

ok good

[lusty karma]

in fairness thats not really the point

[near star]

@lusty karma, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !

[raw condor]

eh I could see that @meager spade

[lusty karma]

no it isnt thanks mee6

[raw condor]

@lusty karma i came in blind that's all

[meager spade]

and it's important to let that happen

not just try to equalize everyone's experiences

[raw condor]

i just saw the "is there a part 6?" and people arguing and I assumed what happened

It's a little difficult sometime

[lusty karma]

fair

come to think of it

if someone knew absolutely nothing about part 4, hearing kiras name would mean nothing

[raw condor]

I mean yea

He could be literally anyone

[lusty karma]

they'd see the episode/chapter tile "yoshikage kira wants to love a quiet life" and think "oh yea, i think iveheard of this guy"

[meager spade]

still there is 0 reason to mention it in here

[lusty karma]

there kinda was given the then-current convo

[meager spade]

or to mentION THE EXACT EPISODE NAME

alright i'm out

jotakak and every other queer ship is good, you're all just weak to gay shit

[lusty karma]

OH MY GOD IT IS A CHAPTER TITLR FOR FUCKS SAKE

AND JOTARO LITERALLY SHOWED NO ROMANTIC ATTRACTION TO KAKYOIN

[raw condor]

First of all

Kakyoin deserved better.

Second of all

[lusty karma]

SAYING THE NAME OF THAT CHAPTER/EPISODE MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

BY YOUR STANDARDS THEY SHOULDNT EVEN KNLW THE PARTS NAME FFS

[raw condor]

A spoiler is literally telling a part of the story that could ruin the experience for someone

Like

[lusty karma]

saying (sticking with part 3) kakyoin dies or sumn

[raw condor]

"yo dio fuckin gets his ass kicked by jotaro in part 3" to someone who doesn't know anything about it.

[lusty karma]

like in that exact wording

[raw condor]

That would ruin someone's experience.

[lusty karma]

i mean, thats how i'd say it

[raw condor]

Not the title of an episode or throwing a random name out there

[meager spade]

anyway, AvPol is good too!

very good and cool

[lusty karma]

i can kinda see avpol

anyways

[raw condor]

Although I see that if you're talking about for example Battle Tendency you should probably stick to talking about battle tendency

AvPol?

[nimble lynx]

Dont mind me, just watchin' the shitshow

[raw condor]

you forgot the drinks

[nimble lynx]

No I didnt

[raw condor]

oh damn ok

[lusty karma]

if someome were goin in blind, ep/ch names and the name of a character mean nothing hi sean out of context

[nimble lynx]

Hey Jen

[raw condor]

Yea it wouldn't

They might start assuming shit

[lusty karma]

honestly i was somewhat partially spoiled about the third bomb and i still love part 4

[raw condor]

but not really a spoiler

So is good

I got spoiled that Dio fuckin dies in part 3 and still enjoyed it

I wanted to see how it happened.

[lusty karma]

to me, thaf isnt even that big a deal

[nimble lynx]

[SPOILER ALERT!] Polnareff dropkicks Kars to save Morioh in Golden Wind

[lusty karma]

thats like saying handsome jack dies at the end of portal w

OMG I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN

also *morioh

[nimble lynx]

I can spael, iz fien

[raw condor]

As a matter of fact, I didn't want to watch Stardust Crusaders because of the amount of episodes it had, I asked my friend to spoil me something if I was right, I asked him if Dio came back and he told me he did in part 3

So boom

Spoilers aren't THAT bad

(sometimes)

[meager spade]

i mean look

ofc you can see avpol

[lusty karma]

it depends tho

[meager spade]

polnareff fought avdols flaming cock with his giant sword

[raw condor]

If you're like me they get you all curious like how tf does Jotaro beat this reincarnation of Satan

[lusty karma]

im not sure if i shoould clap for you or block you for that

[raw condor]

@meager spade kinky.

[meager spade]

smile

[nimble lynx]

Honestly before watching JJBA, I saw small snippets of footage from part 3, and for some reason my dumbass mind thought that the plot of JJBA is that it circled around one guy, that Jonathan survived and somehow got flung into the future and became alot more gritty and pessimistic and got a neat hat

Somehow my stupid brain thought that JJBA was gonna be Samurai Jack with punching

[lusty karma]

i wish thats what happened omg

that sounds fuckin amazing

[nimble lynx]

IKR, and then at the end of part 1 I was just like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhaW4KU3ehw

[meager spade]

first thing i really saw on jojo was either Mother's Basement OP reviews

or a Phantom Blood reviwe

and both of them said "all the protagonistsa are related in some way to the characters in part 1"

and i'm like alright

[lusty karma]

what would be a spoiler is this
🚪 👦 💣 👱

[meager spade]

so i don't remember having weird blind theories on jojo except for part 4

[burnt zodiac]

[meager spade]

[burnt zodiac]

🚪

[lusty karma]

i mean, it is written in emojis w/o context

[burnt zodiac]

true

[lusty karma]

ok that was pushing it

[nimble lynx]

Lemme see if I can do one

[lusty karma]

if its from 3 or earlier it doesnt matter

[junior garnet]

You can still have fun with it

Ooh, I've got one

[lusty karma]

fair

[mellow geode]

Delete spoiler ree

[junior garnet]

🚄
dojyaaa~n

[lusty karma]

if it doesnt have contsxt and its made with standard emojis it doesnt matter

even with what caro pu idk what the fuck that means

[mellow geode]

Perhaps

[nimble lynx]

🍦 🙌🏿 💂🏻 🐕

[near star]

@nimble lynx, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

[junior garnet]

That one's clever

[nimble lynx]

Thanks

[lusty karma]

[solar olive]

WRRRRYYYYYYYY

[junior garnet]

WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[solar olive]

WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[junior garnet]

Tsugini omae wa "WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!" to iu!

[lusty karma]

WRYYYYYYYYYYYY

[solar olive]

anyone wanna vc

[lusty karma]

no

[solar olive]

ok than

[lusty karma]

#off-topic-general

[mellow geode]

Holly is probably the biggest weeb in the series

[amber scaffold]

Wow, OVA Joseph is so badass

[wanton turret]

lol joseph's hair curls looks like it's mimicking that ol samurai dude out back

[amber scaffold]

What about Joseph x Abdul?

[weary turret]

abdul's too young

[scenic terrace]

Avdol*

[burnt zodiac]

**A-d-l

[meager spade]

abdul is correct

we take avdol too but abdul is more accurate, like buccellati

[fallen shore]

Avdol is too young?

[orchid veldt]

No Avdol is more accurate

[fallen shore]

Wait I can’t talk about Part 4 in here

[wanton turret]

both work, okay

Abdul, Avdol, whichever

not like y'all referring to some other character

[meager spade]

no i mean it's more accurate to what the name is supposed to be

[blissful patio]

Funny. I’ve got an irl friend named Abdul.

Perhaps he’s Avdol in disguise

[halcyon shadow]

Abdul is what it's supposed to be

It just can't be properly written in Japanese

[meager spade]

^

[scenic terrace]

But the pronunciation is more Avdol than Abdul in this case, so it makes it sound a little off

[halcyon shadow]

Yeah that's just the translation to Japanese

[meager spade]

porunarefu

[halcyon shadow]

Giorno=Haruno

[meager spade]

joruno even

also,

music reference,

paula abdul

[scenic terrace]

Makes sense

[amber scaffold]

@scenic terrace So "Joestar" isn't correct?

You use "Josuta"?

My favourite JoJo is Josefu Josuta

lol

[scenic terrace]

Well the Dub also pronounced it more like "Avdol" in places, So i was thinking it wasn't a Japanese pronunciation thing

[wanton turret]

i feel like, you totally did not get what they were trying to say

@ lism

[amber scaffold]

@scenic terrace I haven't watched the dub

so idk about it

If we use "Avdol" we should be straight and use "Jonasan Josuta" too

but whatever

[scenic terrace]

Nah

[amber scaffold]

It's you to decide

[halcyon shadow]

Zeppeli could also be to make it sound more Italian

[scenic terrace]

Let's spell it Abdul and pronounce it Avdol

[junior garnet]

^

[halcyon shadow]

But Avdol and Abdul are literally written and pronounced the same in Japanese

And one of them is a real name

[wanton turret]

Jonasan Josuta is the romaji

Abdul and Avdol are the actual names

[halcyon shadow]

Avdol isn't a real name

[wanton turret]

i mean names they use for him

[amber scaffold]

where

I mean, he is Arabian

[halcyon shadow]

The official translation uses Avdol

[abstract estuary]

he's black

[amber scaffold]

(or Egyptian)

[abstract estuary]

hes egyptian

[amber scaffold]

There's actual Arabian name "Abdul"

[wanton turret]

Avdol is used in ASB and Viz Media, while Abdul is in reference to the singer, and used in the Italian and French versions

[junior garnet]

Blueford hurts

[amber scaffold]

Talukus and Blufold*

[wanton turret]

lism what i'm trying to say was that, if you're gonna use Jonasan Josuta, then avdol's would be Mohamedo Avuduru

[abstract estuary]

yes^

[amber scaffold]

Oh

I got it

ok

[halcyon shadow]

There's a lot of inconsistencies with names throughout the series

[junior garnet]

There's an entire page on the wiki about it

[scenic terrace]

I think Avdol and Abdul is on a different level from the usual differences in pronunciation

[amber scaffold]

I use "Abdul" because my subs spell it this way

Also I'm not an English nor American

[wanton turret]

yeah avdol's romaji emphasizes on the 'v' moreso than 'b'

[halcyon shadow]

That's because they're the same in Japanese

[junior garnet]

アヴドゥル

[amber scaffold]

And the most European translation have "Abdul"

[halcyon shadow]

They don't have separate v and b letters

[wanton turret]

but either way, y'all stop trying to correct people like that, it ain't like we talking about some other avdol or abdul

[junior garnet]

See those markings next to the second and third characters?

[amber scaffold]

They even don't have a letters

[junior garnet]

Those differentiate bu and to from vu and do

アヴドゥル
Avudoru

[amber scaffold]

Has Araki ever written his name in English?

Not often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOKi6xQmBGM
why isn't it a SC anime ending?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqY4Y7-Az8Q
Something like that

[wanton turret]

just because

[meager spade]

walk like an egyptian is better

[halcyon shadow]

Because it's too hype to be an ED

[meager spade]

and it's better as a less agitated song for an ed

which is what eds must be

[halcyon shadow]

EDs are supposed to be transitioning you out of the hype mood from the show

[meager spade]

space dandy ed is one of my fave eds period

[wanton turret]

'hey everett'

[meager spade]

ez game

[amber scaffold]

I like Walk like an Egyptian very much

[junior garnet]

All the old paintings on the tomb; they do the sand dance, don't you know?

[amber scaffold]

And if they move too quick

[junior garnet]

OWAYO

[amber scaffold]

They're falling down like the domino

[junior garnet]

All the bazaar men by the Nile

[amber scaffold]

He got the money on a bet

[junior garnet]

Gold Crocodiles OWAYO

[amber scaffold]

They snap their teeth on your cigarette

[junior garnet]

Foreign types with the hookah pipes say
eh oh weh oh, eh oh weh oh

[amber scaffold]

Walk like an Egyptian

[junior garnet]

The Blonde waitresses take their trays

[amber scaffold]

They spin around and they cross the floor

[junior garnet]

They've got the moves
oh whey oh

[amber scaffold]

You drop your drink and they give you more

[junior garnet]

All the schoolkids so sick of books

[amber scaffold]

They like the punk and the metal band

[junior garnet]

When the buzzer rings
oh whey oh

[amber scaffold]

They're walking like an Egyptian

[junior garnet]

All the kids in the marketplace say

[amber scaffold]

oh whey oh

oh whey oh

[junior garnet]

Walk Like An Egyptian

[amber scaffold]

Walk like an Egyptian

[solar olive]

when both of my parents died of cancer

oh whey oh

[amber scaffold]

but your parents are alive, Kakyoin

you aren't

[junior garnet]

Hey remember that one time Avdol was J. Geil?

[amber scaffold]

No

It wasn't a mistake

It was a reference to the fight between Abdul and Polnareff

Because Polnareff thought that Abdul is his enemy

But

IT WAS ME DIO

[lusty karma]

i say avdol cuz thats what the crunchyroll subs say

[wintry rampart]

He's a cold-hearted snake. Look into his eyes uh oh. He's been telling lies. He's a lover boy at play. He don't play by rules. Uh oooh. Girl don't play the fool no.

C-c-c-cold hearted ooh aah ah c-c-c-cold hearted sssssssnake

[junior garnet]

"Girl don't play the fool"

Well, that's not a problem, because that's Iggy's Stand

[wintry rampart]

It's the song don't @ me

[junior garnet]

No girl can use it

[lusty karma]

if anything, avdol is better that polnereff's fate in EoH/ASB

[junior garnet]

?

[wintry rampart]

It's a song by Paula Abdul

[lusty karma]

his names in those were

Jean-Pierre and Jean-Pierre Eiffel

[junior garnet]

PFFFT

Jean-Pierre Eiffel

[wintry rampart]

Her other song I know is Vibelogy that goes like

[lusty karma]

even tho they still say polnareff

[halcyon shadow]

that was for copyright reasons

[junior garnet]

Well, yeah

[lusty karma]

polnareff is a name tho

[junior garnet]

VAs: "Jei Gairu"

Subs: Centerfold

[lusty karma]

i mean, center fold is a j guiles band song

[wintry rampart]

You got that Vibeology that v-i-b-e ology your body's pumped next to me you got that sensuality

[lusty karma]

so it works out

[halcyon shadow]

Oingo Boingo

Monyatta Zendatta

[junior garnet]

D A N O F S T E E L

[wintry rampart]

Yeah what did they do to Oingo and Boingo and why

[lusty karma]

like, zenyatta mondatta

[junior garnet]

That's not even close

That's one of the worst ones imo

[wintry rampart]

I don't get why they did that

[lusty karma]

when i heard zenyatta i thought fuckin overwatch

[halcyon shadow]

flaccid pancake

[lusty karma]

and idk about mondatta

[junior garnet]

There's an Overwatch reference in the dub

[lusty karma]

i mean, jotaro and mcree share a va, and vas have a part in writing dubs, so

[junior garnet]

Jotaro just straight-up says "It's High Noon" at one point

[wintry rampart]

Dude I can't wait for that one thing in part 6 being called like Untammed Field

[lusty karma]

ye

[wintry rampart]

well

[junior garnet]

I think it's during Dan of Steel, but I don't remember

[lusty karma]

at the end of the dio fight

[wintry rampart]

hello again

[junior garnet]

Oh

[wintry rampart]

i just came from a restaurant

BBQ Chicken And meat lovers pizza

sorry for off topic

[junior garnet]

Did they serve you 4 iced teas which you drank in a manly manner?

[lusty karma]

oh yeah

[wintry rampart]

i ordered 1

[lusty karma]

that scene

[junior garnet]

Or did you play a poker game for souls there?

[wintry rampart]

But i drank it the same way

oh there was a game alright

(Eat 5Pounds of Chicken in 40minutes and get 100Dollarss)

Entry fee:40

$$

[junior garnet]

The D'Arby fight would've been so much better if it were a speed-eating contest

[lusty karma]

the oddest name change ive only seen in the ps1 game is Iggy->Iggi

[junior garnet]

wat

[wintry rampart]

fun fact:my name is the same name as egypt man from jojo part3

[lusty karma]

str8 up, i can load up the iso

[junior garnet]

Wait, the PS1 game didn't have an official translation, did it?

[lusty karma]

idk

[junior garnet]

So wouldn't that be fansubs you have?

[wintry rampart]

wait can we go to #memes-and-images

this is off topic so ya know

[lusty karma]

hang on imma boot it up

[wintry rampart]

OFF TOPIC

[lusty karma]

yes, but its so different it barely matters

the stand sprites suck on the ps1 compared to arcade, but the huds are nicer

yea

[junior garnet]

Wait

Here are the name changes

Who tf is "Black Polnareff"

[lusty karma]

polnareff with anubis

[junior garnet]

And so Araki redesigned the robed woman as a belly dancer

for some reason

[lusty karma]

i love how mariah just got more h's

[junior garnet]

Wait a seconds

Young Joesph has an a next to his name

He was a boss, apparently

[lusty karma]

iggy still makes no sense

also, all these changes, yet they left speedwagon alone

[wintry rampart]

what's your full name?

this might seem like a random question

because it is

mi just wanna know how long they are

my name is really long

mohammed serwan abdulsattar raoff barazanji

man that's a long ass name

[lusty karma]

anyway...

the fact they didnt touch... anyone int part 1 is wierd

[wintry rampart]

it was a game that focused on part3 mainly

then again why isnt it competetive in the high leagues?

it requires so much skill and reading

yes there are weekly onlinetournaments

[lusty karma]

yea

to my understanding

i think thats it tho

especially with speedwagod, his is pretty obvious

[junior garnet]

I mean

There were like 10 characters in Part 1

[lusty karma]

true

[wintry rampart]

(speedwagod)

(speed wa GOD)

@junior garnet dont forget,no survivors

except dio

[junior garnet]

Speedwagon, Straits, Erina, Dio and Tonpetti all made it out of Part 1 alive

[wintry rampart]

i meant after part2

[junior garnet]

She wasn't named in Part 1, tho

[wintry rampart]

sorry i forgot to trext that

sge Existed in part 1 alright

[junior garnet]

Out of those who survived

Straits died early Part 2

We never got closure on Tonpetti

Speedwagon and Erina died at some point after Part 2 but before Part 3

And DIO died in 1987 in SC (retconned later to 1989)

[wintry rampart]

speedwagon 69 - volume 1

[junior garnet]

Hey, remember that whole "Joestar men live short lives" thing we got after George, Jonathan, and George?

And how it never showed up again?

Granted, after Part 2 they're not Joestars

Probably pretty young

It was the 1800s

Women married older men a lot

RIP to an absolute legend

Do we have the date or just the year?

[lusty karma]

the best damn nazi we knew

[near star]

@lusty karma, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

[lusty karma]

right? what heppened there?

[junior garnet]

I think the dubbing crew might've had some people angry at some of their worse accents (like Caesar) so they gave up accents altogether

[lusty karma]

really?

[junior garnet]

Either that, or they had too much trouble finding english-speaking voice actors from all of those different countries

[lusty karma]

part one was good, and they got the guy who voiced fucking numbah one from knd for joseph

[junior garnet]

Doing an English accent or an Italian one is easy enough, but doing an Italian or Japanese accent without coming off as extremely racist is difficult

[lusty karma]

they couldve at least kept joseph's

[junior garnet]

I really like Part 2 Joseph's dub voice

[lusty karma]

well, "do an italian accent" just means "be mario" at this point

[junior garnet]

And Wamuu's

And Kars'

I haven't heard enough of Esidisi's yet, though

[lusty karma]

i need to watch the part 2 dub

[junior garnet]

Same

[lusty karma]

not sure where tho

maybe gogo

ive heard joseph's voice and thats about it

[junior garnet]

Well I mean

When you get thrown into space by a volcano, it's reasonable to ask if your opponent planned it

Because that's not usually dumb luck

[lusty karma]

usually implies it can be

[vernal steppe]

That's why you ask

[junior garnet]

And that's how Joseph knew Kars would ask

[vernal steppe]

Q.E.D

[sullen oar]

About to start part 3

Where would you put part 3 tier wise

[wintry rampart]

In the tier

@sullen oar mute this chat until you finish and don't come around until you do

Tier

[halcyon shadow]

What

That's the dumbest way to release something

[junior garnet]

Only if it's being released to tell a story

The OVA was made to sell the manga

Like the quote says, it was for people who were already into the series

[fervent ivy]

I thought Joseph lost his accent after staying in the States for so many years

[junior garnet]

It does make sense

But why does Jotaro speak with an American accent?

[halcyon shadow]

Because he probably learned English from his mom

And she's American

[ruby sand]

Because old ova

[near star]

@ruby sand, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

[ruby sand]

Also it's said Jotaro doesn't speak English that well

[junior garnet]

No, we're talking about the anime dub

[ruby sand]

Because Matt McCree is like that sometimes

[meager spade]

asking anything but American accent from mercer

mercer didn't have to come out THAT white but by god he did

[ruby sand]

We wouldn't have high noon without it so I'm glad he did

[meager spade]

i'm so mad over that!

fuck that line

[junior garnet]

Defeats DIO at night

"It's high noon"

[meager spade]

"Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world."

[vernal steppe]

Would you have actually preferred "Draw, let's see who's the fastest gun in the west"

[junior garnet]

No

[meager spade]

absolutely

[vernal steppe]

Which I think was the sub line

And is unwieldy as hecc

[junior garnet]

I'd have preferred "You made one mistake, and that was pissing me off"

[meager spade]

i wAS GONNA MAKE AN EDIT WITH THAT LINE

[vernal steppe]

I thought he did say that

[junior garnet]

Wait when does he say it's high noon then

[meager spade]

AND NOW HE SAYS "dRaW yOuR pIeCe"

[vernal steppe]

When he walks up to DIO on the bridge I think

idk I try not to think about that fight too much

[meager spade]

i'm just mad over the draw your piece line

[junior garnet]

"I can stop time!"

"Well so can I"

"Boy, that sure is convenient for you"

[meager spade]

had he said "It's high noon, let's see who's the fastest in the west"

i'd be fine

[vernal steppe]

If they hadn't gone for a McCree line I would only have accepted a Clint Eastwood line

I was waiting for a good old "You feeling lucky, punk?" the entire part

[ruby sand]

That would have been sick

[vernal steppe]

Hoping some other gun guy down the line gets to say it

[vernal steppe]

I think they were saying "I'm glad he did that accent"

[hexed peak]

Why does jotaro's hat blend into his hair.

[wintry rampart]

why not

@hexed peak It DOES NOT

It is just a ripped hat

[fallen shore]

In this part

But in the future it’s less clear

[hexed peak]

Then how does it stay on his head

[junior garnet]

I think he has hair glued onto the hat

[fallen shore]

Now THAT is one of the great wonders of the world

[ruby sand]

The hat is his hair you fools

[junior garnet]

I dunno about you, but I am unable to take off my hair and put it on a TV

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4f3fed76df140482c4cfe03b0f4a13dc/tumblr_oyla8fvxWB1wah2aso1_1280.png

[remote skiff]

just put strands on a hat

[burnt zodiac]

Under his hat is another hat

He's actually bald

[lusty karma]

jotaro's hat is today's equivalent of bart and marge's hair

[ruby sand]

You aren't trying hard enough @junior garnet

[orchid veldt]

Rate DIO out of 10

[burnt zodiac]

11

[halcyon shadow]

Did anyone else think Abdul was was older than he actually is

[burnt zodiac]

"Late 20s"
yes

He seems like a 40s to me

[halcyon shadow]

Same

[weary turret]

official answer (seriously) is that the hat is a part of his body, but he can take it off

[mellow geode]

I‘d image it makes a wet peeling noise when he takes it off

[fallen shore]

10

[abstract estuary]

@halcyon shadow i dunno, all the main characters in Stardust Crusaders (excluding joseph) look like they're in their 20's

[near star]

@abstract estuary, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

[abstract estuary]

Kakoyin and Jotaro do not look 15

[halcyon shadow]

Pretty much everyone except Joseph looks older than they are to me

Oh

Polnareff too

[wanton turret]

of course joot and kak don't look 15

[halcyon shadow]

He looks ok

[wanton turret]

they're 17

(or was it 18?)

[abstract estuary]

Polnareff is 22 in part 3

[halcyon shadow]

He looks pretty close to that

[abstract estuary]

but he look like he should be 25+

nah 22 year olds don't look like polnareff

[halcyon shadow]

I mean

Human beings don't look like Polnareff

So much head

[wanton turret]

so much head, but nothign inside it

[solar olive]

except hair

polnareff has a bigger head than jacksfilmx

[scenic terrace]

White Etika

[near star]

@scenic terrace, Your Gangstar cred is now level 11 !

[solar olive]

French*

[fervent ivy]

Is it just me or does the line "The World is a Vampire" at the beginning of Bullet with Butterfly Wings sound like it inspired The World

even though it post dates SDC by like 8 years

[dire ledge]

Ok, this is gonna sound so fake, but I just came to comment the same thing. This is the weirdest coincidence ever.

my mind is oficially blown

[fervent ivy]

I always think about it so I had to get it off my chest

[calm solstice]

If it came out 8 years after sdc whos to say it isnt a reference?

[fervent ivy]

I'm not sure if Smashing Pumpkins read manga

that's why its such a great coincidence

[orchid veldt]

Was the OVA out yet?

[fervent ivy]

I think so

wait, it seems the ova wasn't released on DVD in North America until 2003

it may have been released on VHS in North America though but it doesn't say

[blissful ferry]

Guys

Wanna check real life stand?

[wanton turret]

@blissful ferry to #manga-jojokes p l e a s e

[lost valley]

I have a crush on polnareff for some reason

[wintry rampart]

I love to imagine random civilians looking at Hol Horse shooting his invisible gun

[wanton turret]

hol just finger guns and someone dies and the random civilians are like "what the actual frick"

[lost valley]

Lol I never thought of that 😆

[burnt zodiac]

he's heavy weapons guy

[orchid veldt]

Rate Polnareff out of 10

[fallen shore]

10

[meager spade]

8

[hushed adder]

Polnareff is great I'm glad Iggy gave himself instead. I hated Iggy >:((

[lost valley]

POLNAREFF IS 11 OUT OF 10!! >:”(

[meager spade]

this is like

half spoiler?

kinda

[lost valley]

I love him so much :”(

[hushed adder]

Oh should I delet

[wanton turret]

yeah kinda spoiler @hushed adder

[hushed adder]

Sori

[wanton turret]

it's fine

also it was a jojoke so it was the wrong channel either way

[hushed adder]

Yea I know but I thought it sorta related with what happened

[lost valley]

...but it was a star dust crusaders jojoke..

[meager spade]

with a polnareff design from a later part

[wanton turret]

jojokes take priority over parts, so if it's a jojoke, even if it's related to the discussion(though i doubt it adds anything to discuss), then it goes into the other channel

[lost valley]

So strict...

[wanton turret]

sorry..

[lost valley]

It’s okay

[meager spade]

it's so we don't flood the discussion channels with

well,

not discussion

[hushed adder]

My bad sorry

[fallen shore]

And he doesn’t come back until the DIO fight where he gets killed almost immediately

[vernal steppe]

Having little chats with it when he was alone

Reading it stories from his library

Maybe a bit too yandere for Dio

He held on to the rest of the skeleton so why not, for the sake of completeness

[late arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6UsDWEwtH0

dio is reading the quran

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/368574334396006401/505200803741696000/Blank_b148ccc2bb6085cf527c48c88bebd937.png

its actual canon confirmed by araki

[meager spade]

you know how problematic that was

[wintry rampart]

why does polnareff cuck himself with this fine ass piece

[wanton turret]

because priorities matter

[wintry rampart]

wut

he puts a pretty high priority on pussi tho

[wanton turret]

no i mean, if he hooked up with her then, he'd face the risk of leaving her behind because there's a big risk of him dying

[wintry rampart]

then he'd pass on the seed

and have his own stand line

like the joestars

ever consider that cucknareff 🤔

[wanton turret]

that's..exactly the point??????

[wintry rampart]

that he forever stays a cuck?

[wanton turret]

he wouldn't want to leave behind fatherless children

[wintry rampart]

joseph had no problem with that

best jojo confirmed

[wanton turret]

that's joseph, this is polnareff

two different people, in case you didn't notice

[wintry rampart]

but you can tell that jotaro is related to joseph

in their characters

[raw condor]

WRYYYYYYYY

[amber scaffold]

I think that DIO was reading something English when he was chilling in Egypt

[odd galleon]

He was writting his diary

[raw condor]

YO

I FOUND THE RAREST OF PICTURES

[weary turret]

GOOD jotaro pic

[deep lava]

You guys prefer Dio from Part 1 or 3?

[raw condor]

Part 1

Dio Brando > DIO

[weary turret]

feels more personal in 1 but feels like a more powerful force in 3

[deep lava]

True, since Jotaro and the gang didn’t know how much he affected Jonathan.

[raw condor]

Araki fucked up big time

1- The episode where Polnareff becomes a kid should've had Joseph instead of Jotaro, it was the perfect excuse to see Young Joseph once again.

2- You'd expect Speedwagon to tell his taled with Jonathan to Joseph but nope, none.

It would've made it more personal and interesting.

[weary turret]

to be fair

joseph was aware to some point of his family's history with DIO but he never really elaborated on it with his family past the first few chapters

[raw condor]

Still, maybe Speedwagon had a diary or a book telling his tells and how he changed for the better thanks to Jonathan

Maybe Old Joseph could've started to give a crap after seeing his daughter near death

[wanton turret]

maybe speedwagon already died at that point so like, no one's there to tell him about how dangerous DIO is

[calm solstice]

He died at 89

How old was he in p2?

Im willing to bet that speed is def dead by part 3

[wanton turret]

plus, there's not really much to add to how much of a menace DIO is other that the basics of vampirism and family generation abuse

[deep lava]

At the end of the day guys there are two sentences that sum up Part 3. Say it with me now.

[calm solstice]

Yare yare daze

[deep lava]

OH MY GOD!

Or Za Warudo.

[weary turret]

i agree: if that's what happened, it would feel like the character was only created to bring young joseph back

[wanton turret]

also skips the point of alessi being defeated by a kid

[deep lava]

He made a statement of not bringing characters back?

*for nostalgia

[wanton turret]

yeah

he said he didn't want to bring a character/s back simply for unnecessary nostalgia

[weary turret]

he said that he still liked the idea of joseph returning because he feels that it made sense that he would aid in the adventure to save his family

[wanton turret]

wait now i'm confused

i'm always confused

[weary turret]

big same

[wintry rampart]

I wonder how many people were introduced to JoJo by the Part 3 game and were confused out of their minds

[junior garnet]

I think it was the OVA

[wintry rampart]

It was, the second time was Viz’s release of the JoJo Manga and OVA from 2005-2010

Nope, JoJo’s Venture came out in ‘97.

the manga started with Stardust Crusaders (but had a summary of parts 1 and 2 iirc) in 2005 and ended in 2010.

the OVA dub might have been released in 2005-2006 if i recall.

[junior garnet]

I never understood why the knives continue to move for a short time after he throws them, but they all stop right before they hit their target.

Shouldn't they stop moving the moment he lets go?

[wanton turret]

maybe it's momentum?

[junior garnet]

Momentum shouldn't apply at all in stopped time, should it?

[wanton turret]

like dio threw the knives with so much power that they just move a bit even in stopped time

[junior garnet]

^^^^

[lament stump]

Sailor moon is a jojo reference

[junior garnet]

If they move for a while, why not do that?

@lament stump #manga-jojokes

[wanton turret]

maybe dio's just really sadistic

he likes to see jotaro flail around helplessly as he is bombarded with 100 knives

[junior garnet]

"Damn, I might actually lose this fight. I guess it's time for DRAMATIC FLAIR!"

Actually, that just describes DIO, doesn't it?

[meager spade]

caro

dio and the things he wears move in stopped time

so i'm assuming there is a leeway for things he touches as well

[wintry rampart]

Hey guys excuse me but

WHY THE FUCK DO PART1 AND PART3 DIO LOOK SO DIFFERENT

I MEAN LOOK AT THEM

[junior garnet]

Jonathan's body is different from Dio's body

100 years passed

[wintry rampart]

Ah yes I forgot

[meager spade]

dio went to the gym

way harder

[deep lava]

I like Patrick’s Dio. Aside from the Muda.

He should’ve used his vampire powers in 3.

[mellow geode]

His lazer eyes could‘ve cut off Jotaro‘s head pretty easily

[deep lava]

Did he lose them?

Or is it just an Araki forgot situation?

[burnt zodiac]

I guess he thinks it's a desperation tactic? 🤷

[deep lava]

Maybe due to arrogance he only empowers Stands.

[burnt zodiac]

Yeah something like that

[mellow geode]

Using knives to kill someone is pretty superfluous if you can just make them into a donut instead.

[weary turret]

according to araki, DIO lost most of his vampire powers with his old body

he used the laser eyes as just a head

but you could argue that it's him not being able to use his body to it's fullest potential

no, that just makes it make even less sense, so i decided to not mention that

[amber scaffold]

Lol

I've just imagined

Joseph: I hate Japan but I like my Walkman.
Joseph turns Walkman on
Jotaro: What are you listening, gramps?
Joseph: singing alone Holy Diver! You've been down too long in the midnight sea!
Jotaro: Gramps?
Joseph: Oh? It's DI... HOLY SHIT!

[wintry rampart]

YOU KNOW DIO IS IN PART 3

[amber scaffold]

yep

but when you come to the #battle-tendency, you should forget everything past part 2

[wintry rampart]

The outcome of Stardust would've been different if Dio changed his yee yee ass elf shoes

[meager spade]

i mean

he used them to kick kakyoin

for SOME REASON

[wintry rampart]

Lmaooo

[meager spade]

i think that's just because he's got to show how gay he is

[wintry rampart]

What was with kakyoin's T-Pose in the ova

[orchid veldt]

So fun fact

In the Stardust Crusaders video game

Everybody lives

Kakyoin, Avdol and Iggy do not die

[burnt zodiac]

Is that the one with the magic school uniform

[orchid veldt]

Yes

[burnt zodiac]

pfff what

[fallen shore]

Oh man that fucking SNES game

Fucking magic school uniform that DIO just has lying around his mansion that lets Jotaro moved through stop time

Yeah the RPG

Where half the fights take place while they’re still in Japan

[lone nymph]

What if Phil swift had a stand

[burnt zodiac]

his stand is "This Boat"
in america its "Watercraft"

[weary turret]

as far as i know, the sfc video game has multiple endings depending who lives through the whole adventure

abdul, iggy, and kakyoin don't necessarily live to the end. there's an ending with just one character probably

but, i've never played it all the way through myself, so i wouldn't know

[lone nymph]

My favorite ending is Hol Horse’s he becomes the leader of all

[near star]

@lone nymph, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !

[lone nymph]

Nicu nicu very niiicu Made In Heaven BOT

[wintry rampart]

Hello there

[orchid veldt]

Is it weird that I though Polnareff was gonna get with the woman from the Sethan arc?

[amber scaffold]

nope

it's ok

[eternal zodiac]

if i can say one thing

i like the scene in the dub where joseph puts together the worlds power

and that is about the only good thing i can say about the dub

[fallen shore]

You say this like the dub isn’t perfectly casted

[near star]

@fallen shore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 18 !

[meager spade]

casted, yes

[orchid veldt]

give me the best crackship in Part 3

[meager spade]

joseph and anyone

[fallen shore]

Kakyoin and Holly

That is the correct answer

[mellow geode]

Iggy and Polnareff

[fallen shore]

[junior garnet]

Kenny G. and Daniel D'Arby

[soft grail]

The Emerald Splash and deflection.

[fallen shore]

Hol Horse and respecting women

[weary turret]

Listen, Boingo. I am the nicest man in the world. I have girlfriends everywhere.

[lusty karma]

Anne and Forever

[meager spade]

i like how in every of those crakship things i specifically avoided pedo ships and abuse ships and y'all just

went for it

[lusty karma]

[meager spade]

like i hate y'all

[lusty karma]

in my defense i couldnt think of anything else that someone already did

[meager spade]

but why say that

[lusty karma]

coukdnt think of anything else

like str8 up, all the good ones were taken

[fervent ivy]

ok I"m gonna say it

I LOVED Dark Blue Moon

and its in my top 3 stands in part 3

used to be my number one favorite stand

[wintry rampart]

Sup

So there’s his buffet restaurant called ABC

In where I live (Erbil)

I saw about 3People ordering ice tea in a Special position (Just like how the crusaders do before they see Darby)

So I join and thy give me a weird look 👀

I just say Yare Yare daze then they understand and we recreate the whole scene

Then we smile and part ways

#feelsgoodman

[fervent ivy]

you met THREE people randomly in a restaurant who had also watched jojo?

In the middle east?

is jojo big over there?

[prisma lichen]

OH MY GOD

ALMOST NO ONE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WATCHES JOJO

ive convinced my friend to watch it

but hes still at part 1 episode 3

[fervent ivy]

keep him watching

[zinc pivot]

Don't you mean "bone hurting juice" ?

[prisma lichen]

how?

do i force him?

hes watching kuroko basket

so if i spoil him about that he loses interest in that

and goes to jojo?

[zinc pivot]

... no

just be patient

[prisma lichen]

too late i spoiled him

[zinc pivot]

whY?

[prisma lichen]

jk

[zinc pivot]

🤔

[rose solstice]

if you purposely spoil anyone about anything then you're probably a bad person

[near star]

@rose solstice, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

[blissful ferry]

Guys

Someone can make poster

For wheel of fortune

Arc

Like this

[rose solstice]

[wintry rampart]

Lol

But no one watches jojo in the Middle East

Is nonexistent

My best friend right now is a guy who watches SCP laboratory

You know that show it’s kinda nice

But I forced my friend to watch part1

He said he’s never watching it again

Because

Saaaad show oof

But those threee people were actually tourists so I wasn’t surprised

They told me they were from Poland

[prisma lichen]

hey

IM IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WATCH JOJO

[near star]

@prisma lichen, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

[lone hatch]

aight so the 2000 ovas were pretty mediocre and they had none of the charm that the manga or the 2014 anime has
but the fights were straight up better (except for hanged man fight) and the plot changes were cool (in theory)
it’s marginally more tolerable than season 1 of SC
It’s a 5.5/10 Vs a 5/10 tho so pick your poison
I’d rather just watch the 2014 anime and skip the episodes I don’t like

But the 1993 ovas? Fuck they’re actually really good
It retains the funny shit and charm from the manga and doesn’t have shit sound design like the 2000 ovas
Plus it doesn’t make the fights drag forever like the newer SC anime
It’s legitimately good

[sullen oar]

I gotta ask

I’m at part 5 of SC so far

I’m getting tournament arc vibes from it

Which I’m fine with but just wondering if anyone else gets that

Yeah

I havent seen spoilers dint worry about it

All I know is the silver chariot guy probably joins them judging by the intro

[meager spade]

part 5 of part 3?

OH

[sullen oar]

Yes

In Hong Kong

[meager spade]

EPISODE five

[sullen oar]

My bad haha

[meager spade]

steer away from this chat, my mans

[sullen oar]

Ok

[meager spade]

this is spoilers free

wait till you finish SC then unmute this place

[wintry rampart]

soooo

were gonna keep this roleplay alive?

my boots

[junior garnet]

Which are still "Araki does whatever he wants", but now slightly more excusable

[lone hatch]

I don’t get why people say that stands were some great cure-all remedy to hamon having BS powers when stands regularly pull shit out of their ass

[wanton turret]

because stands allow a kinda more valid excuse for their BS

"Because a Stand is dependent of the user's soul"

if the user's soul wants a punch ghost, go ahead, if it wants a flying stag beetle, sure

[meager spade]

no.

stop the roleplay

it was never funny

[junior garnet]

Are you telling me that people don't get trapped in giant bubbles amd have pigeons fly out of their mouths on a regular basis in Italy?

[meager spade]

they're just confused

[wintry rampart]

I'm reading the Part 3 manga and I just remembered that Dio had a stand similar to Hermit Purple at one point

iirc Araki planned to give Dio all the stands?

It'd be cool if The World was a combination of Star Platinum and Hermit Purple

[meager spade]

it sees the future and stops it from happe-NOOOO WAIT

[wintry rampart]

👀

What would have been cool for that concept is that Dio would use the Vine part of The World to hold someone together in the bonds of time

I can see that

[meager spade]

are we reading the wiki now

[wintry rampart]

why not just punch jotaro's balls?

no highschooler can whitstand a punch to the balls

especially one that cane break a water tank

with a human body (Milf hunter)

also explain how jotaro was 17 in part3

and wait its a part 5 spoiler nvm

sry

[wanton turret]

he is 17 in part 3 because he is?

jojo, in its entirety, has no sense of time

[junior garnet]

Part 3: *It is 1987"

Part 6: "DIO died in 1989"

[lone hatch]

bro ok i finished the 1993 ova series (which covers the egypt arc) and damn
the first half was better than the first half of the egypt arc in the new anime, easily
but the second half had wasted potential
the vanilla ice fight (which i only thought was decent in the first place) was ruined
if it was kept intact then i would prefer the ova series to the new one
but as for right now i have them both as 7/10
it should have been 7 episodes with a better vanilla ice fight, not 6 episodes with one that barely exists

[rose solstice]

if Star Platinum only unlocked time stopping when Dio used The World

then why didn't it unlock the countless other times Dio used The World

I know JJBA is notorious (pun intended) for plot holes but

that kinda annoys me

[lone hatch]

the OVA actually has an explanation for this!

[rose solstice]

👁 👁

explain

[lone hatch]

they say that thanks to kakyoin figuring out The World and telling Joseph, and Joseph telling Jotaro, Jotaro is now “aware of time stopping” and his brain can comprehend the world (the actual thing not the stand) when time is stopped

[rose solstice]

ah.

makes sense.

thank you.

[meager spade]

this is explained in the manga and in the anime as well.

it's explained through enya telling dio the best way to get used to timestop is to believe he can do it naturally

thereby, jotaro gets his 2 secs fast as well

[lone hatch]

I think he meant “how come jotaro didn’t get it when dio was stopping time all the other times before the fight”

[rose solstice]

^

[lone hatch]

like why wouldn’t he feel it when Dio was practicing

[rose solstice]

especially sense they can sort of "sense" him due to him having Johnathan's body

iirc

[lone hatch]

like when Dio makes Hol Horse freak out

when he appears behind him

[meager spade]

because you don't feel time stopped

[lone hatch]

of course there is the concept of “range”

[meager spade]

no one does

it only happened when that concept became a thing

after joseph dies

and the literal first time dio stops time after that, jotaro notices SP and the world's similarities and then twitches his fingers

[lone hatch]

so what you’re saying is when jotaro realized the similarities between SP and the world and found out about time stopping, he started to comprehend it

[meager spade]

yes

[lone hatch]

that is word for word what the OVA said

[meager spade]

sigh

it's what the anime and manga say too

this isn't the ova fixing anything

[lone hatch]

they didn’t explicitly state it out loud in either the DP anime or the manga

Dio spells it out for OVA watchers

[meager spade]

i'm fetching the links

[lone hatch]

no, you're right

i just opened up the manga

and dio does say that

in a less comprehensive way than the ova where he spends like 2 minutes talking about it

so its less memorable

but you are right

[meager spade]

https://youtu.be/WsuKs9WgQD4?t=70

hope you don't mind it's the dub

[fallen shore]

I don’t but people hate on the dub in here at least 4 times a week

[meager spade]

but if even the adapted dub has that dialogue

[lone hatch]

because people dont understand voice acting

[rose solstice]

heyy

[lone hatch]

and need to be fed into their brains that "dubs have bad performances dubs have bad performances shhhhhh"

[rose solstice]

remember that time DIO somehow manipulated gravity and stopped knives midair

[undone sinew]

the dub sucks ass

[rose solstice]

dub Jotaro is more of a cowboy than Hol Horse

and that's not okay

[meager spade]

nah

that's just your mccree speaking

[fallen shore]

I mean

Jotaro is based on Clint Eastwood

So that makes sense

[meager spade]

bloody harry clint

not all the other movies cllint

[rose solstice]

^

wait do you mean dirty harry

[meager spade]

no

bloody

his cousin

[rose solstice]

hm

[rose solstice]

I'm talking about a general accent

[near star]

@rose solstice, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

[rose solstice]

it comes with Jotaro being voiced by McCree

[rose solstice]

that is cursed

[lusty karma]

https://gogoanimes.co/category/jojos-bizarre-adventure-2000-dub

im just gonna leave this here

[fallen shore]

Ohhhhh boy

“It’s an enemy Stand”

[dense meadow]

@fallen shore is this steel ball run?

[scenic terrace]

@dense meadow Yes. It's Jotaro's first appearance in SBR

[dense meadow]

Very naisu Ceasar-Chan

[orchid veldt]

what's the worst fight in Part 3

[junior garnet]

The Sun

[dense meadow]

Best one is Vanilla Ice

[fallen shore]

I prefer D’arby the gambler myself

[dense meadow]

Both d’arbys are pretty good too

[orchid veldt]

D'Arby Elder has the better fight

D'Arby Younger has the better stand

[dense meadow]

^ this

[lone hatch]

i didnt like d'arby the gamer that much on my first run through

but i appreciated him a lot more the second time

there was just some wasted potential with some possible kakyoin character development that just didnt happen

d'arby elder is better tho

[meager spade]

gamer would be amazing because kak could actually prove he bested his fears-he loses

everytime kakyoin becomes a real character he loses or dies

even when he had a real, but twisted ideology vs jotaro

he got ora'd into blandness

[lone hatch]

instead of bringing up kakyoin's anti social background when he died

they could have done it when he fought d'arby

like wooooowww

[abstract estuary]

anyone notice that Old Man Joseph has the same exact hairstyle as Jonathan

[wintry rampart]

was hermit purple based on this

[lost valley]

I had a dream that my mom was dating dio, and I think he was the president, and he stopped time 3 times

[wintry rampart]

how would you know if he stopped time

[dense meadow]

He has surah purachinum

[amber scaffold]

and it was the main conflict of his dream

His mom loves DIO, but he hates her son

so she should decide

vampiric president DIO or her son Glorfindel

[half crow]

Exactly

[near star]

@half crow, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

[half crow]

Although I once had a dream where I was Old Man Joseph

[lone hatch]

what the fuck r u guys on and can i have some

[wintry rampart]

I'm super tempted to find a way to abridge the Stardust Crusaders manga

[amber scaffold]

Lol

Araki had to make DIO dive

Maybe mention, that his hobby is diving

Because DIO is the holy diver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhGEGIBGLu8

[wintry rampart]

True

the darby yes yes yes scene has to be one of the funniest scenes in the whole series

[soft grail]

When people argue that the Sun Stand could technically defeat DIO It only emits heat, not actual UV rays of the real Sun.

[wintry rampart]

why does jotaro flop in the baseball game on purpose?

[burnt zodiac]

DAE it's the sun tho

[wintry rampart]

does cream have a weaknes

holy shit

[unreal sage]

Yes

[wintry rampart]

what is it

[unreal sage]

It cant see if its in void form

And it damages vanilla ice while in void form

[wintry rampart]

if cream is going in a circle

but never overlapping the same path he went on

why doesn't pol roll into the path?

that was dug out

o jk

[meager spade]

because he's very injured

[wintry rampart]

he's too inured

[meager spade]

and it's not as slow as it looks

[wintry rampart]

does the stand ever get a name?

[meager spade]

bdsm shit

is how it's called

[wintry rampart]

it's like a bdsm hermit purple

no

[near star]

@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 8 !

[wintry rampart]

is dio using time stop here