All of our heros were set on saving holly and everyone else was set on killing our heroes
#stardust-crusaders
calm solstice
im sick of ur shit chris
remote skiff
how sick of it
calm solstice
Like a solid ebola
calm solstice
Like an 8
remote skiff
daaaaaaamn
fossil locust
Can we talk about jotaros magic hat?
stone wren
It’s a hat that matches his hair and backside ripped out
His hair is a parasitic organism that latches on his hat so it doesn’t fly off mid flight
faint raptor
simple dagger
proud cypress
feral shadow
yare
inland pumice
good animation
fossil locust
Araki mentioned that he wanted jotaro to have a iconic silhouette, so the hat was for aesthetic purposes at first.
Maybe the hat is a stand
frosty ridge
maybe jotaro's hat is that universe's original rock animal. only instead of rock, it's a flesh/hair animal.
keen ivy
proud cypress
if the english dub kept star platinum's japanese oras it would be 100% better
in my opinion
ornate merlin
The dub’s Muda was faster, but less pronounced
small garden
anyone got a clip so I can hear it?
proud cypress
it makes sense for them to have the same voice actor, but i just prefer the original voice
soft grail
Overall the English dub is pretty good. Nothing has been changed too drastically.
lone hatch
I hate how it’s inconsistent between the first season and subsequent ones
What I mean is they removed the memorable hammy accents
Sure, it’s not too big a deal
Everyone is new in part 3 besides Joseph and we can say that Joseph simply lost his accent
But Dio lost his too
Wtf
Also it would have been amazing to have a French accented Polnareff say “they got his eyes”
wanton turret
dio's been living for 100 years, i think that puts him in the same situation as joseph
also note that dubbing needs quality and clarity, sure a french accent would be nice but maybe it'll slur a few words/sentences in some moments
that and/or they just got the best dubbers they can irrespective of accent
uncut vault
why does dio have a mansion in egypt when it is almost 8000km from atlantic ocean to egypt ?
wanton turret
a trivial question but i'm guess it's for no particular reason at all
smoky geode
moora
remote skiff
why not IT'S A ROAD ROLLER
lone hatch
@wanton turret yes because in a coffin he's going to reteach himself english
soft grail
Plus it's not like they gave Jotaro a Japanese accent. So why make everyone else have one?
frosty ridge
Still sad they didn't give Polnareff a french accent. Or have him voiced by the Spy's VA
lone hatch
jotaro not having an accent doesnt have to do with anything
jotaro having a japanese accent wouldnt have added onto his character at all, he's just supposed to be the quiet tough guy
the supporting cast of stardust crusaders, especially polnareff, could definitely have benefited from having the accents
tho i supposed kakyoin wouldn't have an accent either just to be consistent with jotaro not having one in this hypothetical accented part 3 anime
near starBOT
@lone hatch, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !
soft grail
Accents or not, the voices are still pretty good. But I get what you mean.
fiery spear
real talk, if the World touched sunlight would Dio burn up? like if he was in the shade, but had to grab something with the World, could he?
lone hatch
only if it’s the stand The Sun
fiery spear
if a stand user was a vampire or Pillar man, would their stand have the same traits as their user?
stands transfer damage, but biological discrepancies?
fiery spear
still something worth mentioning
sonic quest
If I recall, Vanilla Ice actually burned up where his Stand touched sunlight.
uncut vault
Why didnt joseph use hamon to keep the water in the glass in darby fight
wanton turret
because his hamon control isn't as good as what it used to be so there's a high risk of the whole glass spilling over?
hybrid geode
you can see hamon, right?
would probably create ripples in the glass while it's being held in
wanton turret
and since joseph thought of using that (gum/cotton??) trick instead of hamon, that would tell that he himself knows how bad he can mess it up with hamon
wanton turret
because hamon can affect stands too? i mean, it was seen with empress, though one would argue that it worked that time because empress has oil on her and that she was wrapped with hermitp purple which can amplify hamon
yeah
hmm, i guess
but for dio you'd also have to consider that the world is a close-range stand and close-range stands usually have a 1:1 damage ratio from stand:user
charred cobalt
says who
wanton turret
says me!
charred cobalt
forgive me sir, i had no idea!
smoky geode
i mean, humanoid stands share damage with their user 1:1. so dio gets an equal and opposite reaction every time he punches
i think so
wanton turret
yeah it did
lone hatch
thats cuz jotaro is tough guy dude
warm storm
jotaro dgaf
calm solstice
@lone hatch #manga-jojokes
orchid veldt
was browsing one of the Jojo volumes at a book store and saw a very interesting comment from Araki
"Hermit Purple is a visual expression of hamon."
remote skiff
So Hamon is purple vines
lone hatch
yes
soft grail
Hermit Purple, including Jonathan's variation, are the Stand embodiment of Hamon. Araki even said that if the Crusaders traveled back in time and met Young Joseph, they would see Hermit Purple covering his body.
teal halo
Hey yall
Just a question
If
whenever star platinum punches does jotaro receive damage in the fists too
i mean he punched those hard as diamond teeth
and a few doors
wanton turret
jotaro does recieve damage, but only if star platinum also gets damaged
faint raptor
Star Platinum is very durable
wanton turret
so like, SP punched those diamond teeth but, like, didn't get damaged cuz he super stronk
rocky swallow
And that was only because SP itself got damaged
wanton turret
exactomundo
wanton turret
probably not since jotaro somehow precisely hit dio at a point where his whole body would shatter
or luck but we don't talk about luck
soft grail
Nope. With Joseph's blood, DIO was able to fully recover and utilize Jonathan's body. Extra Joestar blood=more recovery.
uncut vault
the only reasaon why jotaro didnt die i guess that dio kicked with his leg that jotaro cut it off once and he crippled them when he stopped the time
plush star
Skipping parts is a sin 
lone hatch
Skip the first 2/3 of this part cuz it’s garb
feral shadow
First episode is good
soft grail
I negate that argument with Hol Horse and Polnareff.
calm solstice
never skip episodes smh
wintry rampart
No OnE cAn JuSt DeFlEcT tHe EmErAlD sPlAsH
calm solstice
ornate merlin
NOONE CAN JUST DEFLECT THE EMERALD SPLASH
smoky geode
"no u"
tame plume
we talking about egyptian gods in History Class LOL It Was JoJo References.. .Amazing how Egypt made jojo referejces before even jojo itself 😳
soft grail
I remember that in my Ancient World History class, we were talking about the Egyptian gods as well. Apparently, there's over 169 gods in Egyptian mythology.
ornate merlin
DIO DIDNT DO ENOUGH
soft grail
What got me is that there's a god named Yams in Egyptian lore.
ornate merlin
OH NOOOO
tame plume
nah we didn't talk about the ones specifically in jojo
everyone was pronouncing them very wrong though, not even that JoJo gets the pronunciations 100% correct but they called osiris "os isis"
soft grail
But there's an R right in the middle of it.
tame plume
but it is next to isis
so they see os and see isis next to it so they assume they are The Same
za ambulanco
wintry rampart
I think I got it: Avdol, Kakyoin, and Iggy weren't in half of Part 3 so we wouldn't get so attached. But that plan didn't work out so well 
orchid veldt
honestly people say Part 3 is bad a lot but tbh
I still really love it despite its flaws
sure it has some weird bumps like
Wheel of Fortune
or Empress
and other arcs
and having weak characters like Avdol or Kakyoin
but what is there that's good is brilliant
ranging from the great fights like Hanged Man or Geb
to amazing characters like Polnareff or Hol Horse
and it's still important to remember this is what fundamentally changed the anime and manga industry forever
sure Part 2 got the better concepts rolling with how fights play out
but with the unique powers and structure of Part 3 that made it popular
it's what gave us so many things we have today
and for that Part 3 is a solid part even with its flaws
lone hatch
I still disagree
75% of the stands are just dull and boring to watch, and it doesn’t help when the protagonist is one of the worst I’ve seen
Sure, I can thank Part 3 for creating stands and paving the way for godlike shit like Diamond is Unbreakable, and I won’t deny that there is more good than bad once you get past D’Arby senior, but despite the pretty high highs, overall I think the part has really embarrassing lows and it doesn’t help that season 1 is where 90% of those lows are
it’s boring stand after boring stand after boring stand with that first half
soft grail
D'arby senior was more of a mental battle than a physical one. That's what made the arc so interesting and unique.
lone hatch
Yea, I might have worded that part badly
He’s good, I meant starting with him is when the part actually becomes enjoyable
I don’t think he’s particularly great but he’s one of the better parts of SC
soft grail
For me, the low parts would be Anne, Wheel of Fortune, and the Sun.
orchid veldt
I think it's basic just based on opinion
when you look at the fights I feel
that
Tower of Gray, Dark Blue Moon, Empress, Wheel of Fortune, Sun are bad fights
Strength, Yellow Temperance, Jotaro vs. Avdol, Avdol Vs. Polnareff, Ebony Devil, Death 13 and High Priestess are alright fights
and Hanged Man, Justice, Lovers, Judgement, Geb, Oingo and Boingo, Anubis, Bastet, Sethan, Hol Horse and Boingo, Horus, both Darby fights, Vanilla Ice, The World (debatable) are all great fights
the good still outweighs the bad here imo
halcyon river
dark blue moon has a pretty cool design but in the battle it didn't seem to do much
A
small garden
Literally can't remember half of these stands
lone hatch
for me every single thing you labeled as "alright" besides death 13 was pretty bad and a good chunk of the "great" fights were pretty bad to me as well
orchid veldt
can you specify which ones?
lone hatch
justice was bad, geb was bad, anubis was bad, hol horse and boingo was passable but not great, sethan was passable but not great
horus and the world were both actually really good
both darby's and vanilla ice were good enough as well
those are like the only 4 ones i liked from the entirety of part 3
wanton turret
yeah it actually is
since khnum's pretty much just the face and nothing really else
ornate merlin
-5
orchid veldt
okay I have to defend Geb
Geb is an amazing first Egypt fight
and one of the first genuine threats that the Crusaders face
I also quite like Justice it's a creative stand and I quite like the fight that goes with it, even if Star Platinum EATING THE STAND is stupid, but I think it's a good kind of stupid tbh
Anubis was also great
not only was a unique and interesting stand
but we got to see Jotaro x Polnareff
steady mulch
Geb was a good fight, one of my favorites of P3
lone hatch
i think it's accurate
soft grail
He was pretty much the main character.
remote skiff
polnareff is our god
terse hawk
Why does kakyoin stop using his ability to control other people?
why is jojo so inconsistent
remote skiff
because araki
soft grail
Yup. Araki even said it himself that he doesn't have a great memory.
Perhaps if he took notes on what he wanted to do in the future of the story, JoJo would be less inconsistent.
orchid veldt
well clearly that happens at some point
cause there's on particular part that I'm positive doesn't have a single plot hole or ARAKI FORGOT moment
(you know which one)
soft grail
How did Centerfold shield himself from the rain without an umbrella?
undone pine
I think what he was doing was slashing the rain with his stand to move them out of the way
Just imagine this: it’s during the Anubis fight and Star Platinum just throws that fucker into the atmosphere and hits Kars.
orchid veldt
I've finally gotten my friend to watch the first episode of Stardust Crusaders
this should be good
lone hatch
OH NO
orchid veldt
OH YES
small garden
a group of buff men fight buff vampire, because he's back now.
brisk laurel
I want to but can't say you're wrong
leaden pewter
chad
near starBOT
@leaden pewter, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !
worthy cedar
Egypt arc was better than the first one .
Just seeing DIO get a road roller from nowhere, Beautiful.
unreal sage
Debatable
worthy cedar
Which beatup was worse
Alessi Beatup
Steely dan beatup
Vanilla ice beatup
Or DIO's time stop beatup
orchid veldt
probably the ones that involve actual death
smoky geode
Which is none. Since they weren't killed during the beatup
wintry rampart
alessi got the team rocket treatment, that's always fun
soft grail
Steely Dan cause 3 whole pages of ORAS.
wintry rampart
F - (Every other DIO follower who isn't listed)
if that ain't the truth i dont know what is 
i'd make a new tier below F for alessi though
remote skiff
unwilling projectile tier
orchid veldt
well Alessi was at least somewhat of a threat I guess
soft grail
Wait...The senator driving DIO is A-Tier?
orchid veldt
uh
he just wasn't
DIO BRANDO
he was just missing what made him interesting in Part 1
wintry rampart
i understand hating your father, but brando is a pretty cool name
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !
lone hatch
jotaro not being an F in the tier list
amber scaffold
Araki lost a chance to bring young Joseph using Alessi
But his chapter was a bit cringy
worthy cedar
Part 3 should had removed the filler on the anime.
It just felt too long
i assume it would be like
3-5 eps shorter
worthy cedar
...
You're joking right?
Some animes remove the filler from their mangas. Just like how in part 1 they removed joanthan eating chocolate int he anime
amber scaffold
:)
unreal sage
Yeah lol, how would they cut half of the fights?
small garden
put it in windows movie maker and make it 2x speed
unreal sage
Thank you chris for your intellectual and innovative ideas
small garden
you could also completely removes those parts between fights where they talk about stupid shit.
wanton turret
yeah they can't cut out the fights entirely, since there's already a pre-established tarot card theme so they gotta show them all
orchid veldt
Tier list for Part 3 stands
This is opinion based and hoe much I like the stands
Not a power level tier list
amber scaffold
It is the very important character development moment
quick kestrel
@orchid veldt ok finally I mostly agree
amber scaffold
But the biggest problem in Stardust Crusaders is that Araki forgot that Erina took along coffin at the end of PB, so DIO wasn't able to stay inside it for 100 years.
amber scaffold
And "there is second compartment" thing only makes it weirder
orchid veldt
She let it drift back into the ocean
amber scaffold
yep
orchid veldt
Not really
amber scaffold
But how she didn't notice, that Dio Brando took Jonathan's body and hided into the second compartment?
quick kestrel
I'm surprised from the 90's until the part 3 anime nobody on any of the production staffs noticed
amber scaffold
OVA just ignores this thing
wanton turret
people back then weren't as nitpicky as you guys becaus all they cared about before was macho men doing macho things, coolly, with ghosts
amber scaffold
But JoJo is not about macho men doing macho things.
near starBOT
@amber scaffold, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !
silk aspen
FUN FACT (posting this in part 3's chat so i don't spoil it to any non-crusaders in the part 2 chat): you can see hermit purple behind joseph in bloody stream. going more in-depth, araki confirms in a conference that basically, joseph has always had hermit purple more or less
wintry rampart
oh worm
amber scaffold
@silk aspen "your next line is" is just a hermit purple, I think
Opening creator has wryyyyyd the mango
cosmic rivet
When people say Kakyoin is best character
calm solstice
wintry rampart
i realized a couple days ago that in the first part 3 op, besides the five shooting stars which represent the group, the one that comes in later on the far right is iggy. it's cool they foreshadowed him even before the second season.
amber scaffold
There is Hermit Purple at the second opening
The first opening briefly shows all the JoJo of this universe
wintry rampart
oh yeah i saw his devilman op one, i like how in-depth he goes with the OPs
amber scaffold
Anime was created with true jojo love
They even made a Joestars' star apperar at the PB and BT
PB — Phantom Blood
BT — Battle Tendency
@wintry rampart There was no star until the 3rd part of manga
Jonathan's and young Joseph's one is only anime
From Battle Tendency anime
feral shadow
now rero my cherries buddy
faint raptor
You might wanna delete that
near cosmos
@unborn kiln No slurs and no memes in discussion chat
wintry rampart
l
small garden
@blazing tartan What does this have to do with part 3
blazing tartan
Well it's Araki reading "Kakyoin did you lay this egg ?" 
wanton turret
it's not though?
amber scaffold
===
started at the #phantom-blood
Stardust Crudaders 2nd op is very straight when you are talking about song.
Because they literally singing about everything
First they sing that it is the last season of 3rd part
Then they sing that tarot cards are gone and we have 9 Egyptian gods
There are some lines about Star Platinum's overpowerness
Then it is the reveal of ZA WARUDO
near starBOT
@amber scaffold, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !
amber scaffold
Smth like "Story began when time had been stolen from them"
And the visual part shows us the clockwork and clocks (Za Warudo) and desert (Egypt)
So op is very spoiling
I've finished
lusty karma
yeah
cuz the world doesnt actually show up untill it's revealed
plus going in blond, who's gonna know what that line means
also, for the tarot thing, going by my experiences, i didnt expect the egyptian god stands
i already knew that we had gone through every single tarot card
and for how OP splatinum was, i mean, its the stand of the main character, logic would dictate its pretty damn strong
amber scaffold
I've just reawtched stardust anime
And the ending of the season 2 is a bit too lazy
lusty karma
oh for sure
amber scaffold
because they've just oraoraed minor villain who we even didn't see
lusty karma
and plus the way they defeated dio was just... cmon
amber scaffold
Dio just forgot about his left part of body weakness
lusty karma
yeah, but it jsut feels kinda anticlimactic imo
amber scaffold
Also anime shows them flying just because
lusty karma
because anime
amber scaffold
In manga they are jumping
lusty karma
yea with stand leaps and shit, and i guess the initial rise could be the impact of jotaro and dio's punches worked enough like mini stand leaps
smoky geode
"dio kicked with his bad leg"
lusty karma
really both of his legs were fucked
mellow geode
I guess that's the problem with super overpowered villains.
amber scaffold
When I was first watching Za Warudo part of that op it was scaring
mellow geode
Like Dio had almost no weaknesses barring that injury
lusty karma
yeah that and the sun
mellow geode
Yeah true
amber scaffold
Atomic explosion at the 12 am will kill DIO
mellow geode
amber scaffold
Even if he can survive the atomic explosion it will blow away the building he is in.
lusty karma
better ending: jotaro drags out a fight long enough for the sun to rise. dio orealised the plan and flees into the shadows, but jotaro then uses SP:TW to freeze time and punch him in such a way that dio would land/fly into direct sunlight
ornate merlin
Sono chi no kioku having part of it set in a desert could represent ‘the sands of time’
lusty karma
true
amber scaffold
@lusty karma better ending: Joseph teaches Jotaro how to make a simple hamon punch
lusty karma
that shouldve happened as well
like, in general
why didnt joseph at least try to teach jotaroo hamon
amber scaffold
Because Jonathan lost only because he can't just punch Dio Brando without being frozen
But Jotaro could stop time and overdrive his face
lusty karma
exactly
hamon seemed to deter dio from just muda-ing the utter shit out of joseph
oh yeah
amber scaffold
But in fact hamon is muda at the most of part 3 and all parts after.
mellow geode
Honestly that‘d be a better ending
near starBOT
@mellow geode, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !
mellow geode
It‘d tie the part to both of the previous parts
Like it would start with hamon and end with hamon
amber scaffold
No
He said that he can't touch Joseph when he is protected with hamon Hermit Purple
oh
trim lance
unborn kiln
Dio with peachette crown on
lusty karma
it looked good for the time, but i definitely prefer the modern adaptation
plus sliver shariot looked damn good
lone hatch
stardust crusaders OVA>poorly paced stretched out 48 episode anime series
it skipped all the boring shit
near starBOT
@lone hatch, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !
lone hatch
i havent read the manga and while its probably better than the stardust crusaders TV series (tho thats not exactly a high bar), it still has the same boring ass stands that i hated
feral shadow
The aesthetic of the ovas just rub me the wrong way
calm solstice
insert mod telling you to go to #manga-jojokes or #memes-and-images
velvet mantle
calm solstice
twas referencing the "insert the entire server screaming oh no and holy shit"
mellow geode
How do we handle spoilerinos in #manga-jojokes tho
north obsidian
you can spoil in there if i remember correctly since the memes spoil crap
calm solstice
yeah jojokes spoils every part
amber scaffold
I've just got a bizzare theory
Maybe Joseph has lived for so long because he got some Jonathan's blood at the end of Stardust Crusaders
amber scaffold
Jonathan has the strongest hamon potential. Hamon makes you live longer
When Jotaro took blood from DIO's body and transfered it to the Joseph
weary turret
physical blood from jonathan's body
weary turret
delete spoilers pls
eternal zodiac
crystal lion
wanton turret
the jojoke was already removed
wintry rampart
Me every time i see someone using the discord white theme
north obsidian
I like the gas tank a bit
junior perch
DIO needed more blood to generate more vamp essence to override the Ripple in Jonathan’s blood
mellow geode
Seems counterintuitive to take joseph‘s blood at all then
junior perch
He didn’t know about Zeppeli’s fate
OG Jojo had enough Ripple for like 12 men
Because Zepp was packing
So that’s why DIO grafted to OG
And found out the hard way Ripple lingers on
I’d say it’s like the amount he could use
I’m sure he had more but couldn’t access it due to that hole in his neck
I always thought he could either only save Erina or heal himself
And he chose to nobly save his waifu
From getting Wang Chunned tonight
reef dagger
i guess hamon user blood nullifies the effects of vampire blood?maybe that's why Joseph didn't become a vampire when he received DIO's blood and the reason DIO couldn't use laser eyes and freeze
mellow geode
Hamon would be some great stuff if it can revive people from being brain dead
reef dagger
Zeppeli or other hamon masters probably could
but weaker hamon users like Joseph probably couldn't
mellow geode
Maybe DIO's vampiric essence healed the cells and then the hamon purified said essence out of his system.
mellow geode
I think the main theory is that Jonathan's stand is this hermit-purple type thing that Dio uses
lone hatch
Nah bruh obviously it’s that he has access to all the Joestar stands and actually za warudo is just him copying Star Platinum but better and he’s just copying hermit purple but better there which is why he doesn’t need to break a camera
😎
I can do anything better than you?
feral shadow
I mean the reviving of Joseph makes no sense
Did I already rant about this?
Dios blood turns you into a vampire
Why would there be latent hamon in Joseph's body and how would that counter vampire blood replacing your own
The blood literally gives shape to his body again
not that I want Joseph dead or anything but wth
winged lintel
If you watch part one theres a kind of vampiric essence that causes vampires
Hamon eliminates that
When joseph starts breathing again the hamon fills his lungs and body and wipes out all of the vampiric essence
Now usually this wouldnt work but because josephs blood was the one taken most recently it was able to be transfused back to him
feral shadow
But if it's in his bloodstream and being pumped rapidly to bring him back to life
And he can't even generate hamon yet
feral shadow
And it heals him so the effects clearly go through
orchid veldt
but I just really really want them to get to The Hanged Man fight
feral shadow
One of the few good early arcs
orchid veldt
yeah, I know
the early arcs aren't bad on a first watch
but once you see later arcs
and compare them to early arcs
you realize how much the early arcs suck
just not at first
feral shadow
Sure
soft grail
No, Vanilla was a vampire. If he was a zombie, then he would have been craving flesh. Also, the zombies technically don't die to sunlight.
wanton turret
when you're decapitated, you still have a super small bit of life left(i think cuz blood is still pumping from the neck down) so yeah ice was a vampyr
lethal fog
Hamon is implied to be life energy incarnate
I guess you could think of it as
The sun supplies energy to living things
And hamon conducts through organic material
The undead are by definition adverse to life energy
Which for vampires translates to an inability to be in direct sunlight
This idea gets kind of retconned in part 2, but the essential premise stands
wanton turret
is it bad that the only thing i understood from that was "stands"
wintry rampart
Hamon is the soul in the Bible incarnated "nephesh". The Greek concept of the soul "psyche" is manifested as a stand.
feral shadow
Let's just not try to make sense of hamon and lead a happier life
orchid veldt
especially since Caesar says it doesn't work on stone, even though his grandfather used it on some stone a frog was on top of
ornate merlin
Because there was no frog to conduct the hamon
blissful ferry
Lol
dull yew
orchid veldt
It can also ORA instead of MUDA
weary turret
it can use Star Finger. thats the difference
orchid veldt
Also it is unconfirmed if The World can eat stands
unreal sage
proud cypress
blissful ferry
Select your kawr
But how Darby younger has a game with ps graphics?
It’s motherfucking 1987!
strong edge
Amine
mellow geode
He's a gamer so epic that he can transcend time
lone hatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maaupg55uAk
best song from this part
uneven copper
Iggy best crusader
silk matrix
Polnareff has best hair
uneven copper
Iggy is a dog
silk matrix
Polnareff is a sexuality
uneven copper
Iggy is a dog
silk matrix
Polnareff is a sexuality
uneven copper
Iggy goes woof woof
silk matrix
I come out as Polnareff sexual
If you think any crusader is better you have the big Polnaphobic
uneven copper
you have the big cynophobia is you don't like iggy the most
silk matrix
you have the big polnaphobia
north obsidian
Iggy more like bad dog
silk matrix
Thank you
north obsidian
silk matrix
someone who agrees that iggy is worst
silk matrix
Polnareff>Everyone in ZA WARUDO
uneven copper
Can we take a moment to appreciate the best doggo of them all
..Danny
you were taken from us too soon
silk matrix
Truly
silk matrix
I have a million Alexas all playing Despacito for Danny
uneven copper
THIS IS SO SAD
silk matrix
Kakyoin is second best crusader
uneven copper
ew
silk matrix
Kakyoin is sexy
uneven copper
well he only wants to fuck mommys
silk matrix
I may be a straight male but damn I'd have a threesome with Polnareff and Kakyoin
uneven copper
again boi
silk matrix
No he doesn't
uneven copper
Kakyoin only fucks the mommies
uneven copper
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silk matrix
Opening 4 is the bess
uneven copper
Opening 2 is best
silk matrix
Opening 3 sucks muda muda mudick
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silk matrix
Cool
uneven copper
I can't wait until you see chase
everyone hated that thing until hipsters started liking it because everyone else hated it
I'm one of those hipsters
uneven copper
woah
silk matrix
Y
mellow geode
Jotaro is just an unfeeling cyborg
He does nothing but punch
Polnareff actually had a character arc
quartz vault
iggy best boy fite me if you disagree
mellow geode
Iggy falls right into the uncanny valley
He‘s got a man‘s face of a dog‘s body
It gives me a heccin spook
uneven copper
@quartz vault is right
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uneven copper
yay
quartz vault
congratulation
solemn iron
quartz vault
kakyoin might not have personality, but he had memes
quartz vault
ova iggy does not give fucks, tru
uneven copper
Also I like how the ova adapted the second half of part three before the first half
quartz vault
that sounds like some monogatari-level garbage airing order
quartz vault
monogatari is a light novel series that's been adapted into an enormous anime series, and yea it was aired in the dumbest order
uneven copper
I don't think part 3 is very well suited to be a movie
Because the part is just the gang going and fighting villains with different stand powers
It doesn't have much of an arching story other than "Get Dio"
I think its much better suited in episodes and chapters
weary turret
not to be off topic, but wasn't monogatari aired in like almost exactly the LN order
lone hatch
iirc it was aired exactly in the LN order except Kizu was waaaaay later for some reason
small garden
Yesterday I learned why The World looks like he's about to go scuba diving.
Up until this point I had no idea and just thought it was some odd design
calm solstice
I figured it was because dio was stuck in the ocean for over 100 years
blissful ferry
Ahahha
wintry rampart
i think episode 3 is not in order
help
and i agree with ''ova iggy>anime iggy''
north obsidian
Iggy bad in my opinion
wintry rampart
is the granpa from part 3
the jojo from part 2
if yes
WHY ISNT HE USING HAMONE
WTF
wintry rampart
im on episode 5
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wintry rampart
well
ending of episode 4
wait
jojo 1- Joseph
Jojo 2- ?
Jojo 3 - Jotaro Kujo?
unreal sage
Hamon can fry your senses @wintry rampart
wintry rampart
Well that will be the name of my baby
when i have it
Jonathan
😄
oh
so i should not spoil it to my self
ooooh
well im sad now
its not a spoiler
kinda
proud cypress
makes sense, hamon was kind of bland
wintry rampart
take that back
calm solstice
its less that hamon was bland and more that it was underutilized
wintry rampart
awit
wait
convert the awnser for me
does the forehead guy stick with them
like in the ova
wintry rampart
silver dude
wintry rampart
yes
proud cypress
just keep watching
proud cypress
bizarre
wintry rampart
stand proud?
weary turret
hamon can manipulate the movements of things
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amber scaffold
I've just realised that every single character from the first opening died.
weary turret
i mean it WAS a hundred years ago
amber scaffold
In the opening there is JoJo, Dio, Erina, George Joestar and some cops
Everyone died on screen
(Is it spoiler for the PB?)
(Like, reader supposed to think that Dio is dead at the end of PB)
wanton turret
this is part 3 chat, it's fine cuz dio dies here anyways
amber scaffold
I know
proud cypress
did the manga foreshadow the world's power as much as the anime did?
smoky geode
No because araki changed what his power was mid-way. His original idea wa that it had all the tarot stand's powers, but that would be too OP
weary turret
DIO using, like, Emperor would have been great
"I have to get closer if I want to kick your ass"
"Jotaro! Eat lead!"
blam blam blam
unreal sage
I didnt know dio became a fucking cowboy
weary turret
spoilers sorry
weary turret
yeehaw
proud cypress
yeah, handcannon
weary turret
yeehaw
brisk laurel
ree
winged lintel
I made Avdol the sub-leader of the Joestar group. He was the assistant to Joseph, the 2nd JoJo and navigator of the group. I wanted him to be someone that everyone could count on, due to his strong sense of duty and loyalty. Since his job was to prove that Joseph was telling the truth when he told Jotaro about how DIO had come back to life, I wanted him to have some kind of past with DIO in Egypt, so I gave his hair and clothes ethnic touches.
At the time, lots of people, including me, were interested in Egypt, as the 'birthplace of civilization,' so I think Avdol's appearance really fit with the times.
I killed him once in India, because I'm always trying to keep readers from getting bored with the same pattern. I also wanted to add some reality to the story by having someone get sacrificed. I thought it'd be great to add in an episode where they lose a team member. I didn't intend to erase him forever, though.. But I thought it'd be too easy if he came back to life immediately, so I wanted to prepare a flashy comeback that readers would be able to accept. When I draw JoJo, I never plan out the small things. In the end, I managed to bring Avdol back just before they reached Egypt, but I never planned that beforehand. It was just an idea that came to me while drawing. Now that I think back on it, since I killed him once, I probably should have made him more important in the story. Of course, these thoughts all come to me after I've already finished the story. Making the story center around Avdol would have been very adventurous at the time (Laughs); Even in the character popularity polls, I don't think he was ever in any of the top spots. Everyone just wanted to see Jotaro fight... Also, drawing Magician's Red was a bit of a struggle for me.
Being able to control flames is something that people always put in movies and manga, and in the end, it's just about burning things up, so it end it becomes a pretty all-powerful ability. I think in terms of JoJo, flames and poisonous gas have become off limits for me. If I had made a story centered around Avdol, I probably would have explored his relationship with his father, his upbringing, and his family. I'm pretty sure it'd become a mature story that wouldn't really fit in Shonen Jump. (Laughs).
Did Avdol get younger?
He was always meant to be in his late 20s. He may look a bit older, but that also happens a lot with soldiers in real life. People with a lot of experience get tough faces.[6]
@vast crow
vast crow
@winged lintel nice, thanks
winged lintel
I can like the page with all the jojonium interviews as well if youd like
Theres some interesting stuff in there
I really love the relation between hamon and stands
wanton turret
this looked so confusing at first, i thought it was joseph's POV, then DIO's, then Hol's
delicate kraken
wanton turret
spoilers please
wintry rampart
w
wanton turret
please move these to the respected parts or to #other-artworks
wanton turret
don't worry you won't, unless you do somethign ban-worthy, just keep in mind what you post here that may contain spoilers for future parts
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wintry rampart
the cunt with the sea stand is just Hulk Hogan
wintry rampart
B R O T H E R
orchid hare
He’s cuter
wintry rampart
OVA Iggy is best iggy
terse dawn
ova iggy is literally just some old mans face on a poorly drawn dog
wintry rampart
SHUT
terse dawn
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
wintry rampart
😄
burnt zodiac
this is the best version of iggy
unreal sage
this guy is on tune
wintry rampart
Are you guys on crack or what
burnt zodiac
I am never not on crack
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terse dawn
i have special eyes.
orchid hare
Anime iggys face is weird
orchid hare
Lol
burnt zodiac
lol
wintry rampart
WTF IS JOJO
wintry rampart
i have a feeling that everyone on this server is on crack
ornate merlin
Don’t forget about boats too
weary turret
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burnt zodiac
OK I might have to promote that to best iggy
wintry rampart
who tf is kakyoing
burnt zodiac
Who the fuck is Jotaro??
proud cypress
?? wtf are joestars??
burnt zodiac
What's a Japan?
proud cypress
who is this star platinum guy and why does he keep following man with hat
why does grandpa can shoot purple spiderman web ??
weary turret
I see! So, you call this thing a "Stand", huh?
burnt zodiac
Why is the Devil following Mr. Anime aroynd??
if human evolve from monkey.. why is orangutang in boat?
Closest to chimps iirc but yeah
burnt zodiac
why Beethoven hate mr. Anime change his mind?
proud cypress
why do man in photo have pet fly
burnt zodiac
Why airplane???
rocky scaffold
why did Araki give the black guy a fried chicken stand?
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rocky scaffold
'thats fucking racists
proud cypress
why napoleon bonaparte stab firefighter
burnt zodiac
Okay I give up, who the fuck is Napoleon
orchid hare
Why dog is man?
burnt zodiac
Dog is car
proud cypress
whay Bird cold??? ice????,
burnt zodiac
why doesn't simon belmont just stake dracula?
proud cypress
why how does blind man see water where is????
weary turret
why cherryman eat insect
burnt zodiac
Where is Alucard?? This is the worst Castlecania
proud cypress
why babby make sleep???
burnt zodiac
why does santa get cancer
weary turret
why electrics turn ppl gay
proud cypress
why horse shoot Gun???? help
burnt zodiac
why mr anime clothes on water
proud cypress
why CAR TALK
rocky scaffold
why road roller?
burnt zodiac
HOW does DRACULA buy steamroller when no JOB?
no experience mians no job
interview mcdonalds?
7up??
Did Dio get a 7up sponsorship so he could buy knives and steamrollers?
calm solstice
@burnt zodiac #manga-jojokes please
burnt zodiac
Yeah that's probably what happened
like Dio cares about being a law-abiding citizen
aren't there like 2 characters who fit that description
wintry rampart
I mean there was probably like a construction site around
I mean the setting would imply so
Cause like it was a city and cities have construction sites yakno
Ooo
uncut garden
wintry rampart
It probably just idk flew away or whatever
Probably ended up in somebody's windshield and caused a traffic accident that killed a bunch cause that's the vibe I'm gettin
terse dawn
he ate it
terse dawn
tbh now that i think abt it
some of the ovas art was rly good
the effects on star platinum here look rly good with the transparency, hair, and glow
unreal sage
yeah its cool
orchid hare
I really like the way dio looked
terse dawn
i like dios design
aside from the lack of a crotch bulge
thats integral
ehh
i think seitz did better
terse dawn
i like to think that dio from the moment that he mastered control over jonnathans body to the moment he died, was erect
what do you mean pig
terse dawn
r u ok
unreal sage
india is a fucked up place in arakis head apparently
wintry rampart
wait
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unreal sage
dont ask questions you dont want answers to}
terse dawn
no
wintry rampart
good
terse dawn
wait in part 3
wintry rampart
its not a ceasar situation
unreal sage
bye
wintry rampart
Y'all really spoiled without a second thought huh?
burnt zodiac
if you want to ruin jojo for yourself then go ahead
unreal sage
i didnt
mellow geode
Huh, we never see kakyoin go to heaven
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mellow geode
I guess mormon jesus isn‘t too keen on MILF-hunters
wintry rampart
Made Kakyoin a better character
He was kind off the most bland in all of the gang
At first it was avdol, but when he came back and araki decided to change his character a bit, it made him more interesting so kakyoin became for me the most bland
But i love them all kind of equally
Except for the French Idiot and the Swollen Half-Japanese
Those two are the best
slim parcel
Does Cream's Void disintegrate objects or sends it to another dimension?
slim parcel
So Advol could've survived being sent to the other dimension
lunar musk
just without hands
slim parcel
But since his hands were left behind and eaten shortly after
He could've had a small chance of survival in the other dimension
lunar musk
he could be alive but thats assuming that the other dimension has air, gravity, or isnt just a vacuum that would kill him immediately
lunar musk
araki could always just say that cream sends things to the steel ball run universe
terse dawn
thatd
actually be really cool
like if at one point we saw avdol who's either adapted to the dimension or sad and fucking confused
lunar musk
just as a sort of handless beggar on the streets who would either play in as a cameo or maybe an important character in part 9
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slim parcel
Nice
lunar musk
gets back to original world: "oh boy i cant wait to see my favorite 17 year old high schoolers and dog
lunar musk
stands
slim parcel
Hallucinations?
orchid veldt
but like
terse dawn
imagine just walking along the road one day and a fucking chunk of dirt just pops out of fucking nowhere
orchid veldt
they've made incredibly clear that ghosts in Jojo are now hallucinations
slim parcel
A random Japanese symbol appear in front of you
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lunar musk
yeah that would just be so crazy if that happened in the jjba universe
because nothing that wacky ever happens
lunar musk
well the universe reset, but theres also the possibility where the universe didn't reset and an infinite other amount of universes soo...
weary turret
ghosts are undeniably real in jojo, but it's ambiguous as to whether or not the ghosts of the crusaders at the end of part 3 are
keep in mind that we saw joseph's spirit ascending to heaven and he came back
you could argue that he still died and all sure but still
wintry rampart
We saw the spirit tho so like :/
burnt zodiac
Ghosts weren't invented until 1994
Before then jojo had to imagine his own ghosts
Solved
wintry rampart
You're kinda memeing but I wouldn't write off the idea that the spirits were only seen by a character to create closure for themselves
burnt zodiac
True that idea actually has some currency so I'd better take it back lol
Maybe we'll get some clarification about the intricacies of souls vs spirits vs ghosts someday
wintry rampart
That theory also implies that since we don't know where cream sends what it swallows, Avdol might very well be alive
But what difference would it make? He doesn't really have a way of going back
burnt zodiac
What if Avdol got prosthetic hands and became the one dude from SBR 🤔
wintry rampart
I'm not at sbr yet so I have no idea what you mean but sure
Their hands weren't cut at the same place. Avdol pretty much lost his wholeass arms which also leaves him with no way to make the prosthetic hands
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wintry rampart
I mean he had a cool prosthetic in sc
But that and what you said is about it
I like to entertain the idea that Avdol could've ended up literally anywhere
burnt zodiac
Avdol telefragged his arms and they merged perfectly
wintry rampart
Honestly
Avdol could've ended up in a dimension just filled with exact replicas of his arms
burnt zodiac
he died in the opposite way of how he lived
in life: too few arms
In death; too many
true zephyr
Why is Joseph old ?
burnt zodiac
because it's been 50 years?
true zephyr
Doesn’t excuse it
burnt zodiac
also, Joseph is exactly the person who would half-ass Hamon?
true zephyr
I’ll be straight with you, fam. I typed that as a meme
burnt zodiac
To be fair, it would be out of character for me to not reply seriously to every possible question
burnt zodiac
I think he's dead
lone hatch
joseph's old because his life force was sucked out of him by araki so he could stay young
mellow geode
Araki needs to be stopped
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mellow geode
I'm glad you agree @near star
remote skiff
arakiman
hybrid geode
not as b u f f but he's still as immortal and fabulous
stable grail
How much does Jotaro actually weigh
mellow geode
Wow I‘m actually heavier than that hunk of meat
I would‘ve imagined he was 200 or more just because of all his muscle
stable grail
He’s 6’5 good lord is a slim weight for his height
wintry rampart
That's not that much weight
It doesn't make sense lmao
I would've predicted at least like 190 cause that guy is just very big dude
stable grail
Yeah and he’s 6’5 I’m pretty sure Jotaro must be a very skinny guy being 86kg
But he’s jacked to the teeth lol
proud cypress
nobody can just not deflect the emerald splash
wintry rampart
Pretty much
Tbh like i remember loving Stardust Crusaders but I barely remember what actually happened
burnt zodiac
Dio's Bone beat The World Over Heaven
stable grail
That’s ridiculous hahahahaha
vague spade
The stand that rewrites realites
stable grail
Araki went all out Jotaro fanboy on this one
proud cypress
im 99% sure that he meant physically strongest
stable grail
Yeah
wintry rampart
@wintry rampart i wonder how this town which was put under the spell of Enyabas Stand, would‘ve looked to non-stand users
Omg
We never found out if this is a stand visible to non-users
Imagine some people would drive by and just see some buff foreigners playing hotel room service with an old hag on a graveyard
The whole not being visible for non users rules has a lot of room for very funny situations
Omg jzjsjsjsj
Maybe people with hallucinations are just stand users
Ah yes this is my theory
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wintry rampart
They're all just crackheads
Imagine if dio pursuits his plan for world domination and he‘d do a perfect cell style of video announcement
„I AM A VAMPIRE AND I CAN STOP TIME, ALL GOVERNMENTS IN THE WORLD MUST LISTEN TO MY WILL“
What u mean
Like cell did in dbz, but instead of threatening world destruction, dio would have taken over a tv station for example and broadcasted to the world that he is their new emperor
Dio would have to move to scandinavia eventually
At least for the half of the year where it is always night
DIO should just live in the poles
He switches
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wintry rampart
So he's in one during Northern hemisphere winter
And in the other during Northern hemisphere summer
He‘d be the god of all penguins
proud cypress
blow up the sun @wintry rampart
wintry rampart
I mean until he became heavenly ascended
Then it wouldnt be a problem, if i recall right
Shhh
Spoilers
woven raft
Guys
I just realized
Theres another plot hole
Remember when joseph vs darby they did the surface tension thing? Why didnt joseph use hamon to keep the cup from spilling?
burnt zodiac
joseph doesn't care about hamon anymore
proud cypress
araki joseph forgot