Is the necklace that Oldseph wear in the trip to Egypt the same one as Caesar’s or is that a coincidence?
#stardust-crusaders
wintry rampart
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, you just advanced to level 5 !
novel coyote
It looked like the red stone embedded in it to me
languid stag
Could be
supple warren
I don't think it is
in the manga it changes design from ending of part 2 to part 3, and both are cleary very different from the Aja or Caesar's
same thing kinda happens in the anime
during part 2 ending scene, it's a green stone
while in part 3 it's a red one
lone nymph
We can talk about the ending right or no
scarlet heath
yes
you can talk about spoilers in the right chat
how it works is like
if you're talking in part 3
you can talk about parts 1-3
in part 4
1-4
lone nymph
oh
scarlet heath
it kinda makes since
lone nymph
yeha
scarlet heath
since you need to know about part 1 to understand part 3
lone nymph
I still don't understand why did Dio kick with his bad leg
lone nymph
If Dio kicked with his left leg then what would/ve happened if he kicked with his right
lone nymph
maybe
plush star
You can be left legged and right handed
lone nymph
or it's the leg that healed first after he got launched
near starBOT
@lone nymph, you just advanced to level 1 !
scarlet heath
it's more common to be the same with both
like if you're right handed you'll kick with your right
I mean
it is possible he's just left legged
cunning jolt
dio's just dumb.
lone nymph
Yeah
lone nymph
Dio even said the left half of his body wasn't completley under his control
and then he always used his left leg
I just don't get it
supple warren
he didn't have control of the left half of his body before drinking joestar blood
once he drank Joseph's, he got literally high as fuck
supple warren
theorically there's no such thing as "bad side" once he drank the blood
well, his stand exploded
his stand exploding means his soul exploding and him as well
supple warren
star platinum's hand also cracks and bloods comes out of jotaro, but the world cracks first
scarlet heath
tbh I need to rewatch SDC
languid stag
That brings up a question
Do all vampires get high from different blood or just DIO on joestar blood
scarlet heath
I think because he was using Jonathans body
so it was the jojo bloodline
like, regular blood is good for healing
lone nymph
that or just you choose which bloodline makes you high
supple warren
yeah, i'd say it's more a DIO x Joestar thing
scarlet heath
but using the bloodline of the body you're using can be insane
supple warren
blood does help to regen thou
scarlet heath
because Dio was adopted
supple warren
but for example Straizo, he was a "Normal" vampire who got blown to literal bits and still regenerated
scarlet heath
they were brothers but not blood brothers
languid stag
My favorite sdc fights would probably be DIO's and Darby older's I would like to know other peoples top 2 as well
ocean valley
When Dio and Jotaro stop time, are they technically that much older then the people outside of stopped time as in, if Jotaro and somebody born at the exact same time as him were to stand side by side and Jotaro stopped time, would Jotaro technically become older?
languid stag
I'd say yes because they move freely so they'd be that much older but unless it's a DIO who trained to Oblivion it wouldn't be noticable
ocean valley
Then again, dio doesn't age right?
languid stag
Ooh yeah
scarlet heath
or was it because he healed more
languid stag
Yeah he trained it from a moment to 5 sec than the Joseph blood made it 9( I think)
scarlet heath
so it is true that jojo bloodline makes him overly powerful
but I think he got too cocky
and too excited
languid stag
Yeah but he had kept his own body than I think he would be able to get straight to 9 or higher , right? It was Johnathan's body that him weaker
near starBOT
@languid stag, you just advanced to level 5 !
ocean valley
Imagine if he also drank Jotaro's blood
languid stag
Eyyy the preistess now
I want to see that
Do you think the Darby brother's could collect animal souls , I think so because Iggy and the strength guy have stands but we never see it so
normal path
Hey question: do you feel the Stardust crew is a balanced team?
normal path
In terms of roles and abilities
languid stag
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm , I'd say good they have good range , close up , joespeh , honestly they are just missing a healer
normal path
BTW, any insight as to why Hol Horse is popular?
wintry rampart
He’s cool
normal path
Is there something acceptional about him?
wintry rampart
He’s hol horse
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, you just advanced to level 1 !
wintry rampart
He survived the old hags stand
That controls people by the slightest contact
He was supposed to join the Crusaders
That would have been cool
Emperor is also just a really cool stand
“Your friend’s murderer joined the party!”
lol
normal path
I’m guessing no team of good guys is ever the same
normal path
Well they don’t always have the dynamic the Stardust crew has
normal path
Oingo Boingo?
wintry rampart
Yeah that
It was such a cool idea
They didn’t do anything directly bad that the crew would know about
They could have joined
Y’know, besides like, trying to kill them
But as far as I remember the crew didn’t know
normal path
So I’m basically thinking about the Stardust Crew in terms of them having American counterparts. Kinda sorta
normal path
Yeah. THOSE guys
I mentioned it in Jojo OCs
Basically redesigning the ripoffs from that one shot into legit Jojo characters
normal path
The challenge is taking what Diesel gives us in terms of stands and then redesigning/redoing them to be legit Jojo characters
Some of the main characters don’t get a chance to show off a stand before they’re cut down
That’s why I was asking how the Stardust crew team balance was like
wintry rampart
Did anyone else find the part with young polnareff and set uncomfortable
silver wind
I don't see how it wouldn't be uncomfortable.
wintry rampart
This is a thought I’ve had for a while now
So you know how stand users feel what their stands do
So if star platinum nuts
Does jotaro nut too?
calm solstice
I dont think star platinum has genetalia
wintry rampart
Are you certain?
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, you just advanced to level 2 !
calm solstice
also this might be a thing for the nsfw chats
calm solstice
I mean we've never seen a stand with parts?
its fine
heck you need a certain rank to even see the nsfw chat so you probably didnt know about it
just ask a mod to be kira's assisstant
wintry rampart
Sp’s loincloth covers it
calm solstice
yeah, but the world didnt have any clothes on and you still dont see anything
wintry rampart
Very tight pants
calm solstice
and since they're supposedly the same type of stand
wintry rampart
Oof
languid stag
That's a good question , example if a stand eats a water melon does the user also feel like they ate a water melon🤔
near starBOT
@languid stag, you just advanced to level 6 !
lone nymph
what if star platinum punched jotaro in the face would it hurt or no
wintry rampart
If star platinum gets hit in the groin area would jotaro get punched in the balls or behind them
lone nymph
Jotaro would get hurt
wintry rampart
Duh
lone nymph
I'm getting this from Scafe but just look at death 13
languid stag
The answer is yes
Kakyoin controlled death 13 and threatened to make it decapitate itself
So a stand can hurt itself and user
languid stag
Death 13 only got defeated cause of bad luck really
wintry rampart
There is no such thing as luck in jojo
It's called outsmarting
woeful rose
velvet mantle
was this screenshot taken with a kfc bucket?
woeful rose
no i used my toaster
velvet mantle
Jokes aside, I forgot that Joseph says this
woeful rose
it's a pretty fantastic quote
wintry rampart
Accurate
sacred otter
- insert vore joke here *
prime turtle
languid stag
Why does Cream have destructive power B? It's power is erasing things from existence and Vanilla Ice killed more stardust crusaders than DIO
river coral
My friend, who has never watched/read JoJo, just said to me: "Kakyoin is alive and DIO is a lie."
wanton turret
maybe it's not regarding it's ability, but rather, punching mechanics
like if Cream punched you normally, no abilities, he'd hurt you with a ranking of B
wintry rampart
Power rankings are a but weird for the most part
But yeah I believe that ranking is in terms of physical strength
And araki didn’t start stand stats til like part five so he went back and did them for three and four and uuh
He’s kinda notorious for being forgettful
So that might’ve done something to it
wanton turret
i bet araki just did stands stats for major chars and everyone else was on random stat generator
wintry rampart
He never did stand stats during the days he made the stands, he did much later I think when the anime released
So it was guess work that's why they are so wrong
calm solstice
I thought they started stats in part 5?
wanton turret
that explains why SO has stats
ocean valley
Is there actually a reason that Kakyoin licks Cherries (the fruit kind) like he does? Or is it just a gag?
plush wyvern
no
near starBOT
@plush wyvern, you just advanced to level 4 !
plush wyvern
mostly a gag, but also to emphasize that yellow temperance was doing something that kakyoin usually wouldn't do and made him feel disturbing
and when jotaro finds out that the actual kakyoin does that he's a bit disgusted
wintry rampart
Polnareff was overuse in part 3 in everyone's opinion yes or no?
You mean like, he got too much screen time?
Or?
Polnareff’s bizarre adventure
I liked him pretty much though. He was funny and his fight with the Devil was nice.
I liked him too he’s my favorite from the part
Also he steals Kakyoin's theme song several times.
Also Kak.
🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒🍒
Polnareff just has too many fights I love his stand but Kakoyin should of had more fights.
sly lance
Remember when DIO got hit in the head by SP and he felt dizzy and woozy and sick, human feelings?
What if SP had a bit of Hamon in it from Jotaro, not enough to hurt DIO, but to awaken the Hamon in DIO's body and make it reject his vampiric essence a bit, enough to impair him?
wintry rampart
What if Joesph dies but gives Jotaro the last bit of hamon and then Jotaro could beat Dio?
What if parts 3 and 5 had endings that weren't complete bullshit?
I mean Giorno literally-gets banned
plush wyvern
what if dio didn't skip leg day
silver wind
You're not including part 2's bullshit ending?
wintry rampart
But srsly only Phantom Blood had a normal fight at the end. Others, well...
Yeah, Part 2's ending was the ONLY bad thing about it.
I loved it.
*I mean I loved the part, not the ending
True that!
*Holy shish am I starting to sound confusing
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, you just advanced to level 2 !
wintry rampart
Ey, wot is this "level" bot?
I feel like ending a JoJo part is the hardest thing to do.
plush wyvern
well araki did It 7 times so it shouldn't be too hard
wintry rampart
Just make a normal fight at the end but with more action and emotions, dammit.
Shush! I'm on Stone Ocean rn!
Hyped up as hell for SBR tho.
plush wyvern
m8 It's not a spoiler that stories end
wintry rampart
I'm still on part 5.
An end of a story is a spoiler too, y' know.
@wintry rampart Wich chapter?
(The characters were good. Trish was useless 10/10)
6
wintry rampart
Star Platinum literally crushes DIO’s skull inwards; a little dizziness and a headache seems pretty minor. That being said, DIO and Za Warudo was shown to be more powerful than Jotaro and Star Platinum in every aspect (power, accuracy, time stop, healing), so why does his shin just shatter at the end and kill him?
cunning jolt
Because logic
wintry rampart
Dio couldn't heal his leg faster or stop time to heal when Jotaro was blind by Dio's blood.
near cosmos
That leg was cut off and it didn’t heal enough on time
balmy solstice
because his left side was still weak?
wintry rampart
But he just mf. SHATTERED TO PIECES!!! Like WOOSH!!!
It at least might have been like, his leg broke or something.
I choked when I watched that ending. Probably the biggest disappointment in the series 10/10.
supple warren
well, it was his stand that kicked, not himself, it destroyed his stand which is basically his soul
himself doing the kick probably wouldn't explode him
wanton turret
if it was dio himself who kicked then his leg woulda prolly just ripped and then heal
normal mica
How did Jonathan's body become so hot
wanton turret
are you trying to say jonathan's body isn't already hot?
silver wind
Almost being on fire probably helped
normal mica
True
balmy solstice
is it just me or does star platinum smile more often in the manga
north obsidian
Yeah I've seen them smile in the manga a lot
supple warren
the anime did a big ass disservice when it comes to that
velvet mantle
wanton turret
that one scene where dio has a fuckin collar
plush star
kinky
velvet mantle
my DIO figure has the collar
thorn roost
hes so pretty
languid stag
Reached the 2nd opening in part 3 in my rewatch and I'm struggling not to name all the little things as they fly by that show up later because I talk to myself enough as is
calm solstice
Eh do it, no harm in talking to yourself jf no one else can hear you
languid stag
Eh good point
wintry rampart
Spoilers!
When you realise Jotaro technically killed his great great great grandfather
Jotaro is a good boy don't ruin his image for me
Wellllllll
wintry rampart
I shall remain in pleasant denial
languid stag
But he's not a gud boi he foots the bill
plush star
he is very angeri boi
wintry rampart
Shhhh I'm not listening lalala 
wintry rampart
So Dio took Jonathan’s body, and Jonathan still alive.
What?
Jonathan’s just a tiiiiiny bit dead
pulsar tusk
actually it is said in part 3 that his body is still alive and that his body is resisting Dio, which is why he isn't able to use all his vampire abilities and why Jotaro and his crew have their stands
wanton turret
but by the time dio "succed the blood of Joseph Joestar" he was now in more or less full control of the body
wintry rampart
wintry rampart
Fact of the matter is , it isn't Dio's body it's Jonathan's but I do agree that he must have fully assimilated it as his when he sucked Joseph dry
Thanks Jriibz that's why he is the mark of a star on his body.
wintry rampart
No problem
wanton turret
Jotaro used the alias Qtaro when writing his name in enyaba's guestbook. Why Qtaro of all things? Because his grandma's surname is Q. Suzie Q IS HIS GRANDMA
wintry rampart
plush star
illuminati confirmed
wintry rampart
My brain is melting
wintry rampart
If a stand can breath could it theoretically learn hamon?
plush star
Well the user would have to know hamon instead of the stand
rugged gulch
I don't think so. Hamon is about blood and flesh and living beings
near starBOT
@rugged gulch, you just advanced to level 4 !
plush star
some stands have blood
wintry rampart
Surely star platinum could learn it
rugged gulch
There are no consistency to stands
wintry rampart
I mean joseph uses hamon with hermit purple
rugged gulch
Most probably can't learn hamon but im sure a few technically could
plush star
But hermit purple is the manifestation of hamon
It's like what it would look like as a stand
plush star
but the whole point of it is that it is hamon
rugged gulch
It's not really that the stand knows Hamon. It's more Joseph uses hamon and channels it through his stand
pulsar tusk
no, the point of it is that it's a stand, hermit purple is defined as a tarot based stand, that just so happens that with it being a vine, it can have hammon focused through it
near starBOT
@pulsar tusk, you just advanced to level 3 !
wintry rampart
We know star platinum can breath as well because he uses that freaking super succ at one point
supple warren
doesn't necesserely means he can use Hamon thou, neither of George's could use hamon
in fact, Joseph's father died exactly because he couldn't use hamon
supple warren
not everyone can learn
Willian said Speedwagon would never learn hamon, only 1 in every 100k people have the potential
wintry rampart
Alright but assuming the user had potential and learnt how to use hamon, the stand itself could also use it, right ?
supple warren
and apparently, the shittier your life was, easier it's to learn hamon
rugged gulch
I do remember reading somewhere that it tends to skip every other generation. Don't quote me on that though
supple warren
i'd imagine the stand could channel hamon, but not just use from within
like, Hermit Purple is used more than once without hamon
it's only sometimes that he does channel hamon through it
wintry rampart
But isn't there a chance there could be another hamon users so why no more hamon users?
pulsar tusk
yeah like, the user could force hamon to flow through the stand, like joseph with hermit purple, but the stand itself probably couldn't do it as they aren't alive on their own accord most of the time
supple warren
probably ^
rugged gulch
I'd believe that
I'm thinking way too hard about this
woeful sleet
i cri
novel coyote
That song makes me an emotional baby
manic crown
Same
velvet mantle
Where did DIO find and recruit Mannish Boy
Did he just find a baby and gave it a stand or what?
wintry rampart
Let me just shoot this baby with an arrow real quick
wintry rampart
^Not referring to part 4.
But, that aside, where did DIO get the idea of hiring someone with The Sun as a Stand to work for him?
He’s literally a vampire.
pulsar tusk
maybe it's actually secretly genius, because having that person work for him could let him keep the sun away from him
wintry rampart
But...
DIO: Your stand. Show me.
Arabia: Uhhh... sure.
Arabia: Za Sun.
DIO: WRYYYYYYYYYYYYY
DIO: dies
pulsar tusk
except he can tell what their stand is through his hermit purple he got from jonathan's body, which lets him see into people's hearts, and technicly see what their stands are, it's never really shown that Dio directly saw each stand of the people he hired
calm solstice
pretty sure he wouldnt hire someone if he didnt see their stand
or at least got a description
because hermit purple cant detect stands, its never shown
wintry rampart
DIO has Hermit Purple?
near starBOT
@wintry rampart, you just advanced to level 6 !
calm solstice
DIO has a version of hermit purple due to jonathans body
or something
I know he can summon blue vines
rugged gulch
Ya originally Araki wanted Dio to have "every stand" but changed it after he showed Dio using Hermit Purple
so Dio has The World and Hermit Purple
wintry rampart
Hermit Blue.
calm solstice
I know near the beggining of the anime dio uses his own version of hermit purple to take a photo of the gang
keen ivy
wow that wouldve been op
pulsar tusk
Jonathan's body had a hermit purple but it was attatched to his body, DIO obtains it and uses it in a way that let's him see into people's hearts and manipulate them into his favor
calm solstice
implying the world isnt already OP
wintry rampart
the world is literally better than star platinum in every way
dio loses
pulsar tusk
and hence why "development potential" is a stand stat
keen ivy
i thought dio lost cuz he got too cocky with being so powerful, then jotaro finally learned to counter him
wintry rampart
9 seconds<2 seconds?
Besides, DIO dies via his Stand getting punched in the shin.
Like, once.
rugged gulch
Yea basically Dio was just going crazy with power and not really thinking
Jotaro just punches real hard and wins
pulsar tusk
that, and that star platinum was able to gain the ability to stop time, and let Jotaro escape frozen time
rugged gulch
🤷
pulsar tusk
so he outsmarted DIO, and also got a bit of counter ability from his stand developing
rugged gulch
Ya basically
wintry rampart
DIO: gets skull bashed into pieces I have headache.
DIO: Stand gets punched in the shin Oh no.
rugged gulch
The punch just disabled him long enough to get killed by the sun
pulsar tusk
well that's because his leg was already injured, so the world had the injury as well, so it was vulnerable
rugged gulch
He would still have healed after a few seconds
wintry rampart
I thought he healed by drinking Joseph’s blood.
rugged gulch
Vampires just heal fast
pulsar tusk
yeah, but he attacked too early for it to heal, so the world took the damage, and shattered
calm solstice
But i guess that made him vulnerable because double joestar body
Joseph blood and johnathan body
rugged gulch
The real question is why didn't he use his ice touch and eye lasers he had in part 1?
wintry rampart
^
rugged gulch
Or did he lose them by taking Jonathan's body? I dunno
wintry rampart
Why doesn’t he become a head again like in part 1?
pulsar tusk
his vampire blood hadn't fully mixed into Johnathan's body because it was rejecting him, so he lost his vampiric abilities
wintry rampart
That... actually kind of makes sense.
rugged gulch
I'll buy it
pulsar tusk
only one he kept was regeneration, and even then that was massively slowed down by the human blood
plush wyvern
couldn't he have used them when he got joseph's blood
wintry rampart
But he still became Ultimate DIO through drinking Joseph blood.
He didn’t regain his abilities?
pulsar tusk
well, yes, he got stronger with Joseph's blood, but Joseph isn't a vampire, so it actually technically would have diluted the vampire blood even more and made his vampire abilities work even less
wintry rampart
Why does he get a power up at all.
rugged gulch
Especially with the two people's blood being Hamon userts
can't be good to a vampire
wintry rampart
“I drink Hamon blood, and now I can stop time for 9 seconds.”
plush wyvern
i think he said he needed the blood of a joestar in order for to fully gain control of johnathan's body
rugged gulch
So Joseph's blood made his body stronger but his vampire powers weaker
pulsar tusk
it's because joestar blood is powerful, so drinking/absorbing it not only speeds up his healing, it also buffs him up
also yeah pretty much
rugged gulch
Plus The World is way stronger than his vampire abilities. I'd focus on that too
near starBOT
@rugged gulch, you just advanced to level 5 !
plush wyvern
and also how did punching dio's leg make him split in two
wintry rampart
The World should be weaker than DIO, because The World split and DIO wouldn’t have.
Because his body is stronger.
pulsar tusk
it was that his leg already got hit, so when he hit the world's leg, it hadn't healed much for DIO, and even less for the world since the world is not a vampire and just a stand, so their heal rates aren't equal, and so hitting the world's leg while it was vulnerable made the rest of the body shatter
rugged gulch
plus Dio is probably much sturdier than the average human
keen ivy
weird stand science
near starBOT
@keen ivy, you just advanced to level 5 !
rugged gulch
The World does have an A in durability but a Star Platinum punch to a damaged leg will probably do it
wintry rampart
I thought only Stand injuries translated onto the users, not the other way around?
plush wyvern
nothing makes sense in part 3
near starBOT
@plush wyvern, you just advanced to level 7 !
rugged gulch
You're right
wintry rampart
Nice.
rugged gulch
but that won't stop us from trying damnit
wintry rampart
Star Finger was never used again... just realized that.
pulsar tusk
or sucks air up really fast
rugged gulch
that too
wintry rampart
E a t H i e r o p h a n t G r e e n
rugged gulch
S T A N D V O R E
plush wyvern
big boi eat cherry licker
wintry rampart
Very good.
rugged gulch
Star Platinum doing anything but staring angrily is weird
wintry rampart
Are Stands self-aware? Because Star Platinum catches that one bullet in the beginning.
pulsar tusk
most humanoid ones are sentient, and often have personalities separate from their user
rugged gulch
Like everything in JJBA, depends on the stand
Echoes Act 3 was able to have conversation
So it was very much sentient
wintry rampart
Yeah, that was who I was thinking of.
plush wyvern
cheap trick, sex pistols and spice girl are just a few of sentient stands
rugged gulch
Other stands like Hierophant Green or The Hand never talk and never do anything unless their user wills it
plush wyvern
I think it's If u can't control ur stand then they become sentient
pulsar tusk
though, Kakyoin does state that Hierophant Green does have somewhat of a personality, it's agressive
rugged gulch
That's true. It doesn't have a mouth as well
wintry rampart
What about the canvas ability?
rugged gulch
Maybe Hierophant Green is super chatty
rugged gulch
I literally have no clue how that worked. Maybe he used a little emerald splash to cut Jotaro's leg and was just using the canvas for style points?
plush wyvern
I think that was his marionette ability
rugged gulch
I dunno
wintry rampart
Oh yeah, Kak controls Hierophant with a marionette in the beginning.
rugged gulch
For like 10 seconds. Hierophant also had those weird horse legs in the manga
but only once
plush wyvern
no I meant like hierophant green controling other people
like, he probably used hierophant to cut jotaro from the inside
pulsar tusk
I believe the marionette thing was done just to make it look creepier, just for him to try to freak out Jotaro a bit
near starBOT
@pulsar tusk, you just advanced to level 4 !
plush wyvern
I wish the marionette thing was an ability in heritage for the future
wintry rampart
See, there’s the theory of Kak using Emerald Splash, but Star Platinum’s extreme precision should have negated that.
silver wind
Why?
wintry rampart
Star Platinum automatically defends Jotaro. Star Platinum is fast enough is stop a bullet at point blank. Jotaro would have at least been able to see Emerald Splash, though maybe not deflect it.
Cuz no one can deflect the Emerald Splash.
cunning jolt
as everyone did.
pulsar tusk
it may have just been that neither Star Platinum or Jotaro saw it coming or had any reason to really expect it
wintry rampart
I guess that makes sense... Kak could’ve just slit his throat though.
No more Stardust Crusaders.
pulsar tusk
but where's the fun in that
wintry rampart
DIO could’ve killed the whole crew if he would stop sending in his assassins one at a time to be defeated.
Where’s the logic in this?
Anyways, I just feel like Kakyoin had a lot of character potential that was never realized.
velvet mantle
novel coyote
oh hey its my son
near starBOT
@novel coyote, you just advanced to level 31 !
novel coyote
aw shit
velvet mantle
congrats
novel coyote
my son leveled me up
wanton turret
didn't dio send out his assassins cuz he was still getting used to the jonathan's body so he can't exactly fight at full power?
and remember that probably half of the users sent out to take down the crusaders almost succeeded, so in a way, dio was exerting less effort to kill them by proxy than to kill them himself
wintry rampart
Yeah John Smith there is a flashback of him using the world for the first time so his power need to channel but it took alot of time.
formal jetty
novel coyote
Hey. Please try to keep memeing and regular chat out of discussion chats, there’s general and spam for that
velvet mantle
dab
plush wyvern
dabbing so hard you lose ur right arm
velvet mantle
bold badger
Woah
wintry rampart
@river coral I mean polnareff with speedwagon hat
river coral
ah alright
near starBOT
@river coral, you just advanced to level 7 !
wintry rampart
God this is great but it also needs to stop
languid stag
Cya
wintry rampart
I HATE BUT LOVE IT
cunning jolt
Hey can you guys put JoJokes in #manga-jojokes
languid stag
Ok
manic crown
Why is that a thing
neon saffron
Vay amk turk var
manic crown
Oha
neon saffron
Aga yalnizim saniyodum
manic crown
Lol
novel coyote
What is going on
keen echo
eager arrow
how can his hair form perfect cylinders like those?
calm solstice
Lotta gel
manic crown
True
novel coyote
black hair magic
wintry rampart
I habe a question b0ss
keen echo
b0ss
wintry rampart
Dio said with enough time, lol, he would be able to use The world for as long as he wants. Do you think it'd be possible and if so wouldn't he be too OP
wanton turret
yes that would be the case, since during the battle against DIO, his time-stop during gradually lengthened, had he not been defeated and had lived on, he would reach a point where the duration would be well beyond minutes, perhaps even hours
wintry rampart
I see
languid stag
If he had not been defeated we get eyes of heaven, is that a spoiler thing I can't say ?
wanton turret
not necessarily since EoH spans all parts and isn't canon, so long as you keep details hidden, i suppose
wintry rampart
I doubt we'd get EOH
wanton turret
um, if you're talking about getting the english version of the game, then we already do have it
oh wait oh okay okay
well actually, the plotline of eyes of heaven is pretty much DIO not being defeated in SC, so yeah what venom said
supple warren
the game does take a few liberties with certain rules and plot points however, and plain ignore certain things in order to make characters interact with each other
wintry rampart
It's really dumb though
If you put it algebraically , Dio has X power, adding a coefficient to X power hence X to the power of how long Dio stops time will give him Y power, the reality warping
Doesn't make sense
languid stag
I think reality warping comes with this message has been removed for part 6 spoilers I guess not sure how far in the story you learn of it
wintry rampart
Yes but isn't stopping time warping reality?
wintry rampart
I know about the part 6 spoiler thing of the (redacted)
Well time warping reality does seem believable
warm gorge
timestop makes sense and isn't really reality breaking
part 5 is more messed up
shadow plume
Yall
What if,DIO actually possessed Jospeh after the blood transfusion?,And succeeded on pretending to be him
north obsidian
Jotaro would maybe have gotten beaten since he was actually kinda weak
shadow plume
And judging by that,Dio would still have Za Warudo
north obsidian
Maybe even hermit purple?
shadow plume
But that would mean the events of part 4 and part 5
Also yes due that jonathan had a similar stand
vague spade
sacred otter
The dub dio for ova is actually fun and I like him
wintry rampart
No Takehito is better
mint forge
lethal fog
Jotaro is the monk
wintry rampart
Agree.
wintry rampart
It's hard to choose which is my favorite.
buoyant kindle
Someone who is more familiar with the part 3 soundtrack than I am
what are all the varaints of the stardust crusaders theme?
plush wyvern
what do you mean
buoyant kindle
there's several songs in the soundtrack that have the main melody of stardust crusaders, like the song
wintry rampart
The chill one is travelers who rest
buoyant kindle
yeah
wintry rampart
Mostly with iggy in season 2
buoyant kindle
I know there's also the Stardust Man Appears in Part 4
but I think there's a couple more
wintry rampart
buoyant kindle
yeah I have it pulled up thanks
near starBOT
@buoyant kindle, you just advanced to level 2 !
buoyant kindle
oh boy
A Party of Stardust is another
I've just discovered
from when he bluffs against D'Arby
piano
wintry rampart
Why do people hate Jotaro so much
I mean his attitude make the fight scenes much more interesting
wintry rampart
Yeah
wanton turret
he's cool when he's pulling one-liners and just acting all cool like that
but other than the fights he's pretty much background, pol takes over
frozen flame
I love all the crusaders
Kakyoin's calm and honorable attitude makes him my favorite
Polnareff's my second favorite, I like him both when he's joking and when he's serious
Jotaro is great, especially in fights like the Lovers and D'Arby Elder where he outsmarted the enemies
calm solstice
what about avdol though
wanton turret
who?
plush star
arms
unreal sage
Avdol
languid stag
Only memorable avdol moment pre death was the "yes I am!" because jojokes
plush wyvern
which death
languid stag
the second one
near cosmos
Wait, there are memorable Avdol moments post death?
wanton turret
yeah, like those scenes where his arms are being shown
near cosmos
Wait, there are memorable Avdol moments post death?
plush star
There's "YES, I AM"
unreal sage
yes
bold badger
Theres the lion king moment he had with pol
warm gorge
thank you for summarizing part 3 ending
wintry rampart
Wait one more thing Za Warudo.
You forgot
Angry Jotaro
I'm the one who stopped time...
calm solstice
angery za warudo
wintry rampart
angery toki wo tomare
novel coyote
Take it to spam, y'all
river coral
I made the Za Warudo time stop sound effect my notification ringtone
From now on school will be a lot more fun
unreal sage
Hell yeah
wanton turret
if only you'd ever get notifs
wintry rampart
Awaken as ringtone.
wintry rampart
wanton turret
god that is so fucking hilarious
dio just likes to randomly shout things out of the blue like that
DIO: screams road roller
DIO: speech about his triumph
DIO: screams stand power
wintry rampart
DIO had literally every chance to kill Jotaro if he would stop making speeches.
wanton turret
he's that full of himself
sweet aspen
an OIL TANKER FOR YOU
wanton turret
Crush! To death!
novel coyote
#manga-jojokes @wintry rampart
sacred otter
I thought it was CRUSHED TO DEATH
bold badger
It’s a steam roller!
viral rover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HscyTzQXYWA this is so cool
wintry rampart
But imagine how awkward it would be if DIO couldn’t find a road roller.
wanton turret
he'd find an alternative, like an oil tanker for jotaro
sacred otter
AN OIL TANKER FOR YOU
viral rover
OIL TANKER DA
wintry rampart
To be honest, how the fuck did Star Platuim copy The World but dumb down?
I know that their stands are similar.
wanton turret
one of the other theories is that DIO's true power is to copy and better the stands of the living joestars, so time stop is supposedly originally SP's power but still latent while the World is DIO's copy of SP and already unlocked time stop.
velvet mantle
I believe it isn't exactly the same. I think star platinum is so precise that he can become super quick and it ends up looking like he has stopped time
plush star
why this channel
river coral
what
plush star
why post that in this channel
plush star
oh
river coral
so i quoted the guy who said "Awaken as ringtone." so it was clear what I meant
at least, it was supposed to be clear
but oh well
shadow plume
Fucking babies am i right?
First you think they're all that cute but once ya go to sleep it tries to fucking kill you
wanton turret
every single parent in the universe: nods
warm gorge
im the manga star platinum and jotaro look more savage and they look very similar
wintry rampart
Manga is better
river coral
Manga doesn't have Stand Proud
wintry rampart
Well
unreal sage
He has a point
near starBOT
@unreal sage, you just advanced to level 5 !
velvet mantle
unreal sage
I have a question
Why did dio’s boots evaporate?
Were they made out of vampires or something?
narrow juniper
unreal sage
Also his bracelets
cunning jolt
Dio himself evaporates. Like his whole body
And I'm pretty sure since the sun is like hellfire to vampires, it caught fire and just poof. Dust.
unreal sage
yeah but were his clothes and bracelets also part of him?
wintry rampart
Shhhhh it’s fine
bold badger
Also in the final fight
Dios leg gets cut off
When he drinks the blood of a bystander, his clothes heal
🤔
void flame
It just works man lmao
wintry rampart
unreal sage
Oh
wintry rampart
Why couldn’t they just shoot UV lights at DIO like they did with the Pillar Men?
unreal sage
Yeah
brazen cargo
void flame
Damn
full plaza
is this a MEME IN THE JOJO DISCUSSION CHAT
unreal sage
Idk
full plaza
l can't tell
unreal sage
Search it
cunning jolt
It's an actual video
full plaza
OH WOW
unreal sage
God damn
warm gorge
its very true
kakyoin could have easily tried to attack dio, but he aimed for the clock instead
also the journey isnt kakyoin's buisness but he tags along anyways
some have said its becasue he wants to MILF jotaro's mom
unreal sage
Yeah
Kakyoin chose the better option, cause if he hadn’t, jotaro would have probably lost
cunning jolt
@night knoll Jojokes go in #manga-jojokes. Not discussion channels.
Tired of saying it.
sweet aspen
sacred otter
Ezgif
dim sierra
Remember that time Jotaro broke the 4th wall during the pre-egypt story
sweet aspen
no
wanton turret
he did?
scarlet crag
Wheel of Fortune fight I think
near starBOT
@scarlet crag, you just advanced to level 35 !
scarlet crag
YEY
languid stag
Ye
void flame
Star platinum or the world? Who's the actual strongest
dim sierra
@wanton turret it was when he was fighting wheel of fortune. It looked like he burned to death, to which the stand user of wheel of fortune said “Part 3 is over!” and Jotaro turns up behind and says that if part 3 was over, who would be the main character
void flame
Lmao
wintry rampart
What if Za Warudo doesn’t stop time but it actually takes time off the end of your life to add to the current time and that’s why Jotaro gets so much older.
This was the part where they did it.
void flame
Wow
wintry rampart
Za Warudo is stronger in every aspect.
calm solstice
what?
takes off time to add to your current time?
isnt that what just happens normally?
void flame
Can you explain @wintry rampart
wintry rampart
Like, you know how you age normally in stopped time, right? So it’s taking time off the end off your life and inserting into the current time.
In DIO’s World, part 2, I think, Za Warudo was showned to be more precise and more powerful than Star Platinum, as well as having a longer time stop effect. Za Warudo was also shown to be just as durable as Star Platinum, only weak in DIO’s left knee (Still doesn’t make sense). Also, combined with the fact that DIO outclasses Jotaro in all aspects, the most important being regeneration, Za Warudo and DIO are the strongest.
Really, the only advantage that Star Platinum has over Za Warudo is plot armor and the ability to move during an enemy’s stopped time, which Za Warudo was never shown to be able to do.
charred cobalt
I thought the only reason Dio couldnt move in jotaro’s stopped time was due to Dio using all of his 12 seconds up when he smashed Jotaro with the roadroller
warm gorge
doesnt dio have longer timestop due to him having superhuman stamina as a vampire?
charred cobalt
Well he continued to improve it as he gained more power through his use of joestar blood
But that’s where his weakness lies, he improved it sure but it didnt improve fast enough
void flame
Yeah and he wasnt at his peak vampire when he absorbed Joseph blood he was still 30% of his former vampire self
If dio was at his full strength withbjonathan body jotaro would have lost
languid stag
Honestly fait hates DIO so I could see even if that did happen something stupid would happen like "we've been fighting for so long the sun is up again" but logically yeah with more %vampire he would have won
void flame
Would dio be able to beat anyone with the world if he was 100% vampire?
void flame
Cant the world protect him by covering the light?
languid stag
Would the world be weak to uv lights 🤔
plush star
Qraki? 🤔
unreal sage
Lol
calm solstice
Dont blame the man for his typos, some people have big fingers and small screens
plush star
I know, it just reminded me of Qtaro
calm solstice
True
novel coyote
can we talk about Hol horse please
chilly inlet
Always
novel coyote
Perfect
So I’m kinda sad he never became a crusader like he was meant to, it could have made for a really interesting twist
Don’t get me wrong, I fucking love Avdol a ton, I just think Hol Horse would have been a neat addition
chilly inlet
That’s very true
But I think some of the reason why he was left out was because he was too similar to polnareff
But yeah it would have been awesome if he ended up joining the main gang
novel coyote
Their fight was hilarious
chilly inlet
Absolutely
cunning jolt
reminds me of the joke of hol saying he doesn't speak croissant
cunning jolt
I have it somewhere on my phone, to be dug up.
chilly inlet
I probably do too
novel coyote
It’s one of the top posts if you look up Hol horse on tumblr I think
chilly inlet
But I’ll be impossible to try to find
novel coyote
Never forget
chilly inlet
An icon
near starBOT
@chilly inlet, you just advanced to level 2 !
novel coyote
God himself
chilly inlet
The true god of the jojo universe
novel coyote
Also my cowboyfriend
velvet mantle
He appears in the deep of night, you feel the smelly warmth against your neck, and all you hear is a soft "pardner"
chilly inlet
aaaaa
cunning jolt
found it
novel coyote
sky that is too lewd
cunning jolt
also don't give billion the beginning to a fanfic
novel coyote
I mean I already have gay self insert Hol horse fic
chilly inlet
Oh?
cunning jolt
Also in jojokes
velvet mantle
It's not lewd if he just vanishes before you get to see him
novel coyote
He watches over me
chilly inlet
And in our hearts
novel coyote
I’m honestly really close to buying a framed photo of Hol horse
novel coyote
So I can stare into his pretty blue eyes while I fall asleep
cunning jolt
excuse me, dirg
novel coyote
Yeah this may be a surprise to you, dirg, I’m gay
lethal fog
Ew, thats also gay
novel coyote
Holy shit why didn’t you tell me
velvet mantle
lethal fog
Ew, thats sky
velvet mantle
DIRG I SWEAR TF
lethal fog
Fuck isnt a deity
velvet mantle
sacred otter
pardner
sacred otter
nice emote
novel coyote
mmmmmmm
scarlet crag
velvet mantle
He looks like he is taking a snapchat selfie but feeling very nervous about it
novel coyote
blease
velvet mantle
I didn't say it was a bad thing lol
novel coyote
velvet mantle
It's ok scafe, I remember retaking so much snapchats before actually hitting send
novel coyote
Honestly same
cunning jolt
i dont take snaps of me anymore lol
novel coyote
I rarely do
cunning jolt
idk why tho because you're cute af
velvet mantle
I usually have my hand over my mouth or something dumb
wintry rampart
What happened to all the Hamon users, like that one Tibetan temple with the Hamon monks? Did they just all die out?
cunning jolt
Araki dropped Hamon after two.
wintry rampart
._.
north obsidian
Hamon was kinda meh
velvet mantle
hamon is a technique used to fight the vampires/pillar men and whoever had phantom blood
cunning jolt
Hamon was never used again after the one time in three.
north obsidian
I really didn't even find it that interesting
sacred otter
it was pretty plot convenient
wintry rampart
It was pretty BS at times (fusing falling icicles into a rope), but it was a cool concept.
Jonathan shouldn’t have been able to use Hamon after getting knocked to the bottom of the lake but whatever I mean
tRaPPEd AiR bUBbLes.
NO
void flame
What would jonathans stand be like
north obsidian
yep
void flame
The same exact
wintry rampart
Proto-Hermit Purple.
cunning jolt
But also, The World is only because of Jonathan's body fusing with Dio
wintry rampart
Wait, really? They said that?
void flame
So then wouldnt the world be jonathans stand?
cunning jolt
Jonathan himself would have hermit purple.
The World came from DIO and Jonathan's body fusing.
And the joestar blood getting stronger.
There's a spoiler for part 4 in what I wanna say, so I won't say it.
void flame
Say it in the part 4 chat then please
unreal sage
Yes
bold badger
Is holly's stand a tarot card?
wintry rampart
technically though
it resembles a reversed hermit
as in holly is dying alone and the whole deal with the reversed hermit is to die alone
wintry rampart
Well, that escalated quickly.
languid stag
Byotiful
void flame
I seen bunch of times araki said it himself
Isnt silver chariot much more faster than star platinum without his armor
wintry rampart
Yeah. Chariot could cut light.
void flame
Chariot fastest stand in stardust crusaders?
warm gorge
i guess, but you cant be faster than one who can move faster than time
other than timestop abilities, chariot could be the fastest
with all armor off
wintry rampart
Chariot cut Hanged Man (speed of light) with armor on (he did know the path he was going to take though).
wanton turret
yeah that part was more of in the realm of anticipation and planning rather than an actual contest of speed
void flame
Lets say the world doesnt use time stop
And silver chariot with out its armor
Whould silver chariot win
velvet mantle
The world without time stop is just star platinum without time stop
SP beat SC and anubis at the same time
so...
wintry rampart
Punchy ghost op
void flame
Sp beat sc and anubis cuz plot if abubis find out he can remove armor sp would lose
Badly
velvet mantle
SP beat the world cuz of plot
topaz dagger
hey a cursed thought for those who've seen hetalia : jotaro, polnareff and kakyoin as the axis trio
full plaza
ohhh my god
topaz dagger
delete me please i
full plaza
l'm imagining them so ooc just because of my personal ships lmaoooo
topaz dagger
i saw this art of the three of them and the caption was "unstoppable trio" and i thought BTT but then realised they'd be more suited for axis?
full plaza
yes
topaz dagger
i mean.. their personalities would be kind of different from the aph axis and the dynamic would be a little different but..
it kinda fits
and now i have no other choice but to draw this
ok but.. if they're axis, then who would be the allies 👀
full plaza
maybe some of dio's guys?
topaz dagger
hm.. i can't really see any of them as the allies though @full plaza
america i'd put as jonathan, tbh..
england as maybe young dio..? maybe?
france... well.
russia is also pretty hard
and china?? cryptid son? who
full plaza
l have no idea
topaz dagger
can we agree that joseph is spain though and caesar romano @full plaza
short ore
full plaza
yes
calm solstice
The deadliest bounty hunter in the world
novel coyote
velvet mantle
billion im gonna steal that and make it an emote
novel coyote
PLEASE
novel coyote
No ones hurting me what are you on about
feral trench
Hi
wintry rampart
DIO’s Assassin’s: “Hey, we need to kill the Crusaders; should we gang up on them all at once and fucking destroy them?”
DIO’s Assassin’s: “Nah, we gonna take them one-on-one.”
a few episodes later
DIO’s Assassin’s: “oh shit”
Vanilla Ice: n00bs
wintry rampart
Did ice do more than Dio did in both parts?
calm solstice
Well are we going on kill count?
because DIO killed hundreds
main character wise DIO killed a jojo, almost killed a second jojo, killed kakyoin,
wintry rampart
Yeah but Dio killed weak humans
calm solstice
there's also Dire
wintry rampart
At least ice killed people who poses a threat
calm solstice
I think he killed tom petty?
warm gorge
DIO could have killed literally all the crusaders
calm solstice
yeah he took out kakyoin, put joseph on a death bed that was brought back by BS
he killed jhonathan
wintry rampart
I guess Dio did do more
near cosmos
Pillar Men = Even deader
cunning jolt
too bad part two's trash and doesn't deserv be a part
near cosmos
Part 2 is great
cunning jolt
I hate part two
near cosmos
Joseph >>>>>>> Josuke
wintry rampart
Fight me Scafe
cunning jolt
I WILL
wintry rampart
MEET ME IN THE PIT
unreal sage
It’s better than part 3
warm gorge
part 2 has sad moment
near starBOT
@warm gorge, you just advanced to level 7 !
wintry rampart
DIO: in stopped time, trying to decide whether to just fucking kill Polnareff or carry him down the stairs then run back up and assume a pose
DIO: whee
So yeah, DIO could’ve killed all the Crusaders but he was just... DIO.
novel coyote
Dio lives for the drama of it all
wintry rampart
DIO: I can stop time for 5 seconds.
Also DIO: talks for 2 minutes in stopped time