jojolion

[strange hamlet]

They just know au diego, twau and gyro

[minor ore]

And Funny Valentine

And tusk act 4

[minor ore]

Tbh I doubt people know Diego that well outside of the people who actually read the part

At best people just know he’s Dio but in sbr verse

Its usually Johnny, gyro and funny valentine who they know and thats about it

[strange hamlet]

johnny, gyro, FV, TA4, and pizza mozzarella is what they know

[sweet dune]

Johnny being crippled (nothing about his character), Gyro, Valentine, Diego/AU, LT, TA4, Pizza Mozarella, "Who Shot Johnny is confusing", D4C, Spin/Steel balls, is as far as their knowledge of part 7 goes

part 8 is just 4 Balls, WOU, Rokakaka (but not how it works) and thats it

[strange hamlet]

also the large fries song

[sweet dune]

they dont even know it

No one outside of actual readers know about the large fries song

[strange hamlet]

I think the only people who know rokakaka are yba players

[sweet dune]

any roblox jojo game players

[bleak magnet]

eh the roka only appears in YBA im pretty certain

but lots of people who play roblox jojo games also play YBA so

[sweet dune]

ABD

ABD and YBA are the most popular roblox jojo games

excluding AUT

[bleak magnet]

oh ok

[sweet dune]

they spread quite alot of misinformation

[spark current]

Nah

[bleak magnet]

LV?

you mean LT right

not the stuff from undertale

[sweet dune]

yeah my bad

[sinful bramble]

I can’t count how many times people here have had to explain how the Locacaca works

All because of those games

[tame plover]

by locacaca do you mean the rokakaka fruit, the compound thing or the grafted

[sweet dune]

aint Locacaca the name of the organization

[strange hamlet]

What does the rokakaka do in the games

[sinful bramble]

Any and all of them
I’m taking about the people who think it does what it does in YBA

[sweet dune]

reset your abilities

[sinful bramble]

Which is something to do with gaining stands

[strange hamlet]

ah

[tame plover]

im pretty sure the medical version is called locacaca - x numbers

[kind owl]

@tame plover, Your Stand Rank is now level 16 !

[sinful bramble]

6251

[tame plover]

ye

[sweet dune]

yeah so its called Locacaca

dont know where the R came from

[manic lark]

shush

[manic lark]

translations problems i guess

remember in Japanese, there is no clear difference between L and R

[bleak magnet]

oh yeah

[strange hamlet]

Roblox players when they find out the locacaca doesnt actually reset your abilities

[minor ore]

i have a hard time believing people who never read part 8 know about the rokakka the rest is understandable tho

[sweet dune]

cant they just make a massive New Locacaca farm by grafting it a shit ton in the higashikata Garden

[minor ore]

its in yba?

[strange hamlet]

And other games

[minor ore]

i've never played a jojo roblox game

[bleak magnet]

and ABD

[minor ore]

and ima keep it that way

[bleak magnet]

i used to play roblox jojo games all the time

[sweet dune]

ABD used to be actually fun
YBA is not fun

[bleak magnet]

now i only do so occasionally

i came back to tf2

[strange hamlet]

I used to play yba and i stopped

[minor ore]

is it even worth it at this point?

[strange hamlet]

no

I stopped playing roblox in general

[bleak magnet]

the balancing is bad and i swear most people play only for the skins

[minor ore]

don't they have multiple bs requiem stands in the game (excluding the canon ones)

[strange hamlet]

They have King crimson requiem iirc

[bleak magnet]

only non canon requiem is KCR

[sweet dune]

YBA has KCR, and for some reason SP the world is a requiem

[minor ore]

💀

[bleak magnet]

they also have TWOH

[minor ore]

Why is star platinum: the world a requiem?

[sweet dune]

theres also Made in Heaven requiring Corpse Parts for some reason

[minor ore]

wtf

they on crack

[bleak magnet]

there's no other way to get it

they're just lazy

[minor ore]

bruuuuuh

[strange hamlet]

Does it have Jorge Joestar stands like C-Moon ultimate requiem

[bleak magnet]

the story is just part 5 2: electric boogaloo

and you have to do it 4 times

[minor ore]

bruh

[bleak magnet]

considering i have 4 alts for yba, i've done it... 12 times

16

im dumb

i can do maths

[merry wraith]

Why does jojolion not have spin?

[bleak magnet]

it does sort of

[strange hamlet]

It does

[merry wraith]

Bruh at least hamon was in 2 parts, sorta 3

[bleak magnet]

soft and wet bubbles

[merry wraith]

Later on or what?

[strange hamlet]

Yes

[merry wraith]

The string spinning?

[bleak magnet]

yeah

that's spin

[merry wraith]

Plant appraiser?

[strange hamlet]

Have you finished JJL?

[minor ore]

imagine

[merry wraith]

I mean we have no evidence, plus that's a pretty lame use of it

[merry wraith]

Nope

[bleak magnet]

they have no jjl stands

[minor ore]

trash game

didn;t they recently add stone free

[bleak magnet]

better than most roblox jojo games

[bleak magnet]

yes

[minor ore]

it took them too long to add best stand

[bleak magnet]

it's balanced

[strange hamlet]

At least they dont have the goofy Jorge Joestar stands

[merry wraith]

Yba counts all evolved stands as "requiem"

And that's not a bad thing

It's a video game thing

[minor ore]

trash

[bleak magnet]

made in heaven ultimate requiem

made in heaven... faster..

[strange hamlet]

C-Moon ultimate requiem

[minor ore]

thats it?!

[strange hamlet]

Whitesnake ultimate

[bleak magnet]

idk i dont read jorge joestar

and it's not in yba

[merry wraith]

They have to categorize the stands for video game purposes

[sweet dune]

ABD atleast has Soft and Wet

[merry wraith]

Plus iam not a yba player really

[minor ore]

categorize deez nutz

[merry wraith]

Best JoJo game is either hftf or all star battle

[bleak magnet]

based

[minor ore]

true

[strange hamlet]

True

[merry wraith]

The ultimate JoJo game has not been made yet tho imo

[minor ore]

you don't mean all star battle r do you?

cus it is anything but ultimate

[merry wraith]

No

[bleak magnet]

all star battle u

[merry wraith]

Asbr is just asb remade

I am hoping for something better

[sweet dune]

remastered

[strange hamlet]

ASBR hates jojolion

[merry wraith]

No it doesn't, JJL doesn't have that many fighting characters, that's all

[bleak magnet]

yeah i mean how would you put wou in a fighting game

[sweet dune]

and they are adding Prosciutto and mariah

[bleak magnet]

make all of the attacks counters?

[minor ore]

asbr loves giving us more lame goated part 3 characters like pet shop and mariah

[strange hamlet]

idk bad RNG or smth

Lmao

[merry wraith]

Mariah has shown to be able to translate into a fighting game character, prosciutto idk, but it ain't no norisuke

[bleak magnet]

Jobin would be cool ngl

[strange hamlet]

Yea

[merry wraith]

I will not look at anything about tooru

Haven't met him yet

god is it hard to resist tho.

Thanks guys

Appreciated

[bleak magnet]

it's not hard to resist if you can't see

[sweet dune]

JJL has a good amount of Fighting Characters
Josuke, Kei, Kira, Joshu, Yotsuyu, Urban Guerilla, ||Doctor Wu||

[strange hamlet]

What chapter are you on

[bleak magnet]

kira8 would be just kira... different

[merry wraith]

Chap 76

[strange hamlet]

ok

[bleak magnet]

kind of like jotaro3 and jotaro4

[merry wraith]

Wrapping up ozone baby fight

[sweet dune]

Dr. Kira would be kira but better

[bleak magnet]

fair

[merry wraith]

I don't think we need multiple jotaro's

[bleak magnet]

infinite sheer heart attack

[strange hamlet]

Kira but more op

[sweet dune]

no where close to that

[minor ore]

yeah

[merry wraith]

And I wouldn't want Kira8 honestly

We already have 2 Kira's in ASB for example

[bleak magnet]

cool character, not a cool fighting character

[merry wraith]

And that's about all we need

[bleak magnet]

5 Dios in EoH

[sweet dune]

Dio, DIO, OH Dio, who are the other 2

[merry wraith]

And I think that's great, base Kira and stray cat+BTD kira

[minor ore]

4

part 1 dio, part 3 Dio, Diego and AU Diego

[merry wraith]

OH is lame bs

[bleak magnet]

arguably diego and diego au

[bleak magnet]

heaven dio

[merry wraith]

So it's only 2 dios really

[bleak magnet]

not playable but still exists

[strange hamlet]

OH dio

[merry wraith]

And Diego is his own separate character.

[minor ore]

oh yeah

i always forget about him

[merry wraith]

Don't disrespect Diego.

[minor ore]

the lamest Dio

[merry wraith]

It's only really 2 dios and that's all we need

[minor ore]

midgo

[sweet dune]

common mando L

[strange hamlet]

Uncommon mando L

[minor ore]

but its true

[merry wraith]

I shall not reply to this comment since replying might require use of heavy language.

[minor ore]

imagine not beating the president

[merry wraith]

(joking obv)

But why the hell would you hate Diego??????

Peak mf

I love diego

[minor ore]

i'm just kidding

Diego is amazing

[merry wraith]

Thank you 🙏

[strange hamlet]

One does not hate Diego

[minor ore]

it takes skill to hate Diego

[strange hamlet]

even au diego is cool

Dino diego is better tho

[minor ore]

literally in my top 3 jojo antagonists

[merry wraith]

A jojo fighting game should be 2 characters tag team

Like Mvc infinite or bbctb

[minor ore]

true

[merry wraith]

I can imagine chariot requiem switching the souls of your 2 characters 🙏

[minor ore]

also nothing to do with his character but

Diego has one of the coolest character designs in JoJo imo

[strange hamlet]

Hottest male character in jojo imo

[minor ore]

hmmmm

idk

thats a tough one

DIO exist

[merry wraith]

I think I agree

[minor ore]

and DIO is really hot

[strange hamlet]

DIO is hot but he's no Diego

[merry wraith]

Diego still wins for me (my opinion is not that viable tho, iam straight)

But from what I can tell

Diego is hotter

[minor ore]

hmmm

[strange hamlet]

you dont have to be gay to think that Diego is hot

[minor ore]

i'll give him close second

DIO >

[merry wraith]

It's easier to judge when you are attracted to that gender

[strange hamlet]

Well yea ig

[merry wraith]

Based

[minor ore]

true

[sinful bramble]

True

[manic lark]

i finally know where Joshu's yee-yee-ass EoH render's pose is from

[tame plover]

very much not the same pants lol

[merry wraith]

Not the same, jolyne swag goes harder

[sinful bramble]

Nah he used Nut Beyond to make them the same

[minor ore]

Jolyne got drip

[strange hamlet]

so true

[fluid light]

Fr

[flint blaze]

Dio no question

Diego counts as dio

[clear edge]

Neither

Best character clearly is koichi

Like he's so mfing reliable

This server has a serious case of the homos

[strange hamlet]

Diego >>>

Not cap

No cap

[celest quiver]

Best panel

[strange hamlet]

Disagree

[celest quiver]

What is it then?

[strange hamlet]

If we're talking about jojolion then yea

[celest quiver]

Oh well i was

[strange hamlet]

okay

Definitely best panel in part 8

[celest quiver]

I have no idea what the best panel could be in all of jojo

[strange hamlet]

There are a lot of peak panels

[celest quiver]

Maybe ta4 breaking d4c love train barrier

[celest quiver]

Bruh💀

[strange hamlet]

Lmao

[celest quiver]

No way

[strange hamlet]

We are connected

[celest quiver]

Yep

[clear edge]

The final pinky nail

[celest quiver]

Wouldnt it hurt johnny when he just shoots nails?

[clear edge]

Good question

Maybe?

I mean he uses it pretty often for it to hurt

[celest quiver]

This could be the best manga panel in jojo

Why didnt i think of this

[clear edge]

It's the kono Dio da panel

[celest quiver]

This is better

[clear edge]

Or

Pizza mozzarella

[celest quiver]

What about 7 days of the week?

[clear edge]

Naw the meme panel of Johnny saying he has a bug bite fetish

[strange hamlet]

This panel is beautiful

[celest quiver]

Gyro has the best manga panels tbh

[celest quiver]

This to

[clear edge]

This is the best manga panel

[strange hamlet]

Also this

SBR and SO have the best panels fr

[crisp vigil]

This and Emporio w/WR goes hard asf

[strange hamlet]

This panel is good

[celest quiver]

I wish it was in colored

[strange hamlet]

I like the colors in this panel

[celest quiver]

OMG

[crisp vigil]

Lineart >> color

[strange hamlet]

B/W is peak

[celest quiver]

I JUST FOUND A PART 8 FAN OPENING

Its goodbye morioh on YouTube

[strange hamlet]

The Crazy My Beat one?

Nvm

[celest quiver]

And sfx is on description

[bleak magnet]

b/w >> coloured

[strange hamlet]

There is a really good part 6 opening

[celest quiver]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xcTwV3yhbYY&feature=share

[strange hamlet]

Part 7 is probably the only exception

[bleak magnet]

it's called STONE OCEAN by ichigo from kishida kyoudan and the akeboshi rockets

[bleak magnet]

true

[strange hamlet]

😡 😡

[celest quiver]

Wow i just saw it and it looks like it should be in the anime

[strange hamlet]

Nah but fr, there is a really good fanmade op for part 6

[celest quiver]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rjbQblnl-As&feature=share less go i found the sfx

[strange hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97j9eqyDvOg

This is a really good fanmade op

[bleak magnet]

traitor's requiem (eng ver.)

sounds nice and completely original

[strange hamlet]

It's copypasted but still

The visuals are really good

[celest quiver]

Yeah its pretty nice

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YXexSXix3zs&feature=share wow this had me blown away

[strange hamlet]

This one slaps though

I think I would like Holy Steel more if it didnt use manga panels

[celest quiver]

Yeah

I love the way that it foreshadows joubin burning down the orchard

[strange hamlet]

It could work as an ending song for jojolion

[celest quiver]

Wouldnt it be better as a op

[strange hamlet]

eh

It doesnt feel like an op

[real locust]

I literally love the fanmade intros to this part

[strange hamlet]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGoIsxS3JJI

this is definitely my favorite one

[minor ore]

I love the made in heaven part when the opening speeds up

It was surprisingly done very well

[strange hamlet]

same

also the part where Jotaro stops time is so good

[chilly sail]

agreed

[frozen cobalt]

Absolute banger

[merry wraith]

On god, we take that shit seriously

[minor ore]

Nah

Theres good shit out there

[sharp dune]

beautiful

[strange hamlet]

This is also beautiful

[placid swift]

shueisha accidentally spilled their giant wheelbarrow of money onto part 7 color

[strange hamlet]

That explains a lot

[placid swift]

they hit peak with part 6, late part 7 and early part 8 color

[strange hamlet]

They had about 5% of their money left for jojolion

[placid swift]

the more peak the story, the better the color

that's why part 6 always has good coloring and part 8's color dropped off after the middle

[strange hamlet]

genius

[median ridge]

i liked stone ocean's colored

[frozen cobalt]

Bro?

[thorny coral]

5*

[noble fjord]

I just finished reading Jojolion

And I feel empty

[sinful bramble]

Welcome to the club

[noble fjord]

At least now I can't get spoilers

[bleak magnet]

jojolands spoilers: giorno dies

[quaint imp]

Now it's time to read phantom blood because that manga is actually way better than the anime

[noble fjord]

NOOOOO

[quaint imp]

That shit underrated

[noble fjord]

I do read the part 1-5 manga once in a while

It is fun to read

[bleak magnet]

there are things in the manga that aren't in the anime

which i enjoy finding

[sinful bramble]

Haruno resurrects him

[bleak magnet]

oh ok

[gritty wolf]

Besides Joshu and Tooru, who else would be good in all star battle r? (Idk I just wanted to ask for some reason, ummm just impatiently wait for the game to come out)

[sacred dove]

How

[sinful bramble]

Hato, but people are gonna say “nooo she’s irrelevant and her stand is boring”

[bleak magnet]

josuk8

[sinful bramble]

And idk maybe Jobin and a rock human or two

[gritty wolf]

I’d say Rai (obviously), Yotsuyu, Damo, Jobin

[kind owl]

@gritty wolf, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak magnet]

yotsuyu

[gritty wolf]

Nooo cause I actually agree

And for some reason if even possible, and just for fun, I wouldn’t mind seeing Kira and Josefumi for some reason

[quaint imp]

I just want Rai in the game

[gritty wolf]

Honestly

[quaint imp]

He can do some cool shit with doggy style

[sacred dove]

Isnt doggy style kinda meh?

[gritty wolf]

Truee

[quaint imp]

Wait what?

[gritty wolf]

Yeah but it would be interesting

[quaint imp]

Doggystyle is based

[sacred dove]

fair

[quaint imp]

Jobin though yeah he also needs to be in the game

[gritty wolf]

It’s kinda like a yukako thing ig, like it’s different but it can still work well. Idk, or something on the lines of that

[gritty wolf]

Yup

[quaint imp]

Tsurugi should be apart of his moveset

[sacred dove]

fair tho yukako stand was pretty damn powerful doggy style is just weak peeled skin that grants the user extra evasion

[gritty wolf]

Knowing there’s really only 1 spot left and technically 3 more dlc, imma cry if part 8 don’t at least get 2-3 new characters

[quaint imp]

It's not weak though

[gritty wolf]

Ig but still

[sacred dove]

I know

[quaint imp]

He was strangling poor tom

[gritty wolf]

Same with SBR

[sacred dove]

Eh

[sinful bramble]

Also he turned his arm into a projectile launcher

[quaint imp]

Yeah

[sinful bramble]

By projectile I mean cutlery and shit

[gritty wolf]

Tbh tho, I think they might do another dlc pack sometime

[quaint imp]

The fork launcher

[sacred dove]

gun is better

[quaint imp]

He also turned his arm into a long sharp metal wire when he tried to attack WoU

[sacred dove]

??? show me a pannel

[quaint imp]

What?

[kind owl]

@quaint imp, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

[quaint imp]

That was right before he died

He was strangling WoU

[sacred dove]

just show me the pannel dude

[quaint imp]

Doggystyle haters smh

[sacred dove]

I just don't see the hype for it

[sacred dove]

Intresting still meh

[minor ore]

true

[hard meteor]

its true tho

[tame plover]

the thing about hato is that she is pretty lame and not relevant to the story

[hard meteor]

Like most characters in 8

[sharp dune]

who's hato again

[strange hamlet]

!w hato

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Hato_Higashikata

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Hato Higashikata

Hato Higashikata (東方 鳩, Higashikata Hato) is a secondary ally featured in the eighth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJolion. Introduced early in the story, she gains significance in the "Hato Brought Her Boyfriend Home" story arc and becomes a temporary ally in Walking Heart.

[sharp dune]

ah

ty

[tame plover]

heel extending bitch

[sharp dune]

lmao

couldnt have said it better

[flint blaze]

Should be an emote ngl

[alpine trench]

:disgustedwou:

[sacred dove]

True expect for jobin, gappy, and yashuo and kai or rai forget his name was pretty useful too

[tame plover]

yasuho?

[sacred dove]

Yeah that

[tame plover]

she doesn't have a fighting stand

or any fighting abilities

at all

[sacred dove]

Her stand can kinda fight also she did help gappy when he had amnesia

[hard meteor]

legit only 3 characters in 8 were useful to the plot

[kind owl]

@hard meteor, Your Stand Rank is now level 11 !

[sacred dove]

True

[tame plover]

her what can what

also again, literally no fighting moves

[sacred dove]

It did have to use objects to even cause damage

[tame plover]

what

[sacred dove]

Yeah paisley uses things like metal poles or whateves to attack people

[tame plover]

like a single time

and she was just poking a guy

[sacred dove]

All im sayin is paisley park does have combat but its just that its weak

[tame plover]

no it doesn't

[safe moth]

Part 9 when

[bleak magnet]

late this year

[frail ginkgo]

Part 9 bro

[bleak magnet]

or beginning of next

[frail ginkgo]

Idk about that

[bleak magnet]

i just said it lol

[safe moth]

Ok what about full part 6 anime

[frail ginkgo]

Fall

[safe moth]

Not limited to Netflix?

[bleak magnet]

i don't know everything unfortunately, but if i had to guess maybe end of 2023

actually wait

[bleak magnet]

more than 2023

[frail ginkgo]

Yeah maybe idk

[safe moth]

No

[sweet dune]

around next year

3rd batch

[safe moth]

?

[frail ginkgo]

I feel like dropping a part nine would be a bad idea while trying to do animations

[sweet dune]

what

[bleak magnet]

why?

[frail ginkgo]

Idk

It feels like either the manga or the anime is gonna be rushed

[bleak magnet]

why would the manga be rushed

araki has plenty of time

[hard meteor]

why would the anime or manga be be rushed

[frail ginkgo]

Mmmmh

Idk

[sweet dune]

araki has no involvement with the anime

[hard meteor]

its like 3 parts away 💀

[bleak magnet]

david productions finished parts 6, 7 and 8 anime in 1 day...

[frail ginkgo]

There also hasn’t been any teasers for a part 9 to my Knowledge

[safe moth]

What does the latest part show

For the anime

[sweet dune]

well all we know is that its still in the planning stage

[frail ginkgo]

Yeah so I feel like it’ll take longer than a year

[sweet dune]

part 6
the second third will be all of ultra security ward arc + Sports Maxx

[bleak magnet]

most parts take longer than a year

[frail ginkgo]

Maybe 1.5 or 2

[bleak magnet]

especially the recent parts

(to finish)

[frail ginkgo]

Yeah

[safe moth]

Is that the uh survivor arc

[kind owl]

@safe moth, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

[bleak magnet]

yea

i think so

[sweet dune]

Survivor, Dragons Dream, YoYoma, Green baby, Whitesnake the pursuer

[flint blaze]

Yeah but isn’t David production helping write the manga or something

[safe moth]

Ok

Yo yo ms was so close to being yo ma ma

[bleak magnet]

it could be in the localised name version

but that's unlikely

[celest quiver]

What is the best jojo opening and ending

[sinful bramble]

No they aren’t

It’s just that

Many characters in Part 7-8 are references to Part 1-6 characters

This can go as far as them sharing the same name

But ultimately

It’s a reboot, a new continuity, one step away from being an entirely different series

There’s no correlation between 1-6 and 7-8 at all

@minor ore

[tame plover]

No?

Bro literally put a little attention to the family tree and you see how wildly different they are

[sinful bramble]

^

[sweet dune]

they aint

[light swift]

Read closely

[sweet dune]

fr

gave us some peak stuff

[thorny coral]

do you think yoshihiro and holly joestar would have got along in original universe

be besties even

[sweet dune]

Excuse me what

[sweet dune]

An immature woman and an old man who hates his son
Maybe not

How is that related to holly and kira

I meant the holly and kira marriage....

Dad is related to holly but by a little

True i guess

[sweet dune]

they arent connected

[hard meteor]

The family tree more or less disproves they’re connected, nowhere does it list irene or jotaro anywhere even though it takes place in the same year

No? Nowhere is it implied The reset changed the entire course of history,even if this was the case this doesn’t align with the time periods,and again Irene and jotaro are not listed as family members in current time

Why wouldn’t he if Irene alluded to him existing

Ireneverse it would be a jotaros equivalent, sbrverse its Kira

Why wouldn’t he be, where is it implied the bloodlines were swapped, why would Ireneverse jotaro get a different mother

From the fact that puccis influence doesnt go back to jotaros early life,from the ending in part 6 we are given the implication puccis influence was removed from the world seeing how weathers equivalent is alive and jolyne isn’t a delinquent,since jotaro is born about 2 years before Pucci I don’t see how his death would rewrite his entire family line

[lucid locust]

Jolyne and Jotaro were dead tho

The Irene verse is just the original universe minus Pucci

Johnny and Gyro have nothing to do with the reset, they’re from a completely separate continuity

Jonathan is still Jonathan, Caesar is still Caesar

The SBR verse is a completely new, and completely separate continuity with nods and vague inspirations from the original universe cause that’s what Araki wanted to do

[hardy trench]

isnt the lives of everyone that was killed by pucci different as well

[hard meteor]

But if you’re logic is that sbr is tied to the Ireneverse why is she not listed

[hardy trench]

theyre not obviously

[quaint imp]

So who would be Jotaro's grandfather in the ireneverse?

[hard meteor]

What

[quaint imp]

Damn wtf lmao

[median ridge]

Annasui is not a killer,hermes' sister is alive,weather never went through that awful shit,and jolyne lived a happy life without going to prison
And jotaro is with his family and foo fighters doesn't exist

Yeah

[hardy trench]

im sure foo exist shes just

[median ridge]

Yeah

[hardy trench]

a bunch of plankton in a river

[sweet dune]

whats confusing is how has pucci influenced Anasui and ermes lives

[hardy trench]

who knows

[hard meteor]

Yeah that part doesn’t really have an answer

[sweet dune]

Unless Pucci knew Sports Maxx before Gloria died

[median ridge]

That's the most reasonable explanation I can think of

[sweet dune]

then that leaves Anasui

[hard meteor]

What about anasui though Pucci wasn’t involved in his life

[sweet dune]

like there is no answer aside from headcanons

like one could make up a theory that pucci knew the guy who cheated with anasuis GF

what

[lucid locust]

Jojolion and Stone Ocean both take place in 2011, where’s Jotaro or Irene then?

[lucid locust]

Neither are even mentioned

[quaint imp]

Emporio is going to come back in part 9 and just die within like 2 chapters just like Kaato

[sweet dune]

How is that related to Anasui

[hard meteor]

What are you talking about bro 💀

[sinful bramble]

You mean Romeo?

[strange hamlet]

??????

[median ridge]

But why would he tell the guy to cheat with anasui's girlfriend? Or am I misunderstanding your point?

[sweet dune]

idk

[hard meteor]

Nothing suggests Ireneverse is ten years after

None of the characters look any older

[sweet dune]

somehow Hamon and Pillar men ceased to exist and were replaced with Spin and Rock humans

[median ridge]

But when the first univere reset happened,jolyne was still in prison and met her father

[lucid locust]

“The town of Morio-cho appears in Parts 4 and 8, but they're in parallel worlds, so they aren't linked in time or space. The two Josukes would never meet each other normally.” A statement by Araki for JoJo ASB

[sweet dune]

ok but that doesnt explain what happened to the Pillar Men and Hamon

and where tf did rock humans, Spin, Saints corpses come from

[median ridge]

Did I stay up too long or are you just not making sense at all rn

[lucid locust]

You’re claiming it’s the same as the Ireneverse which it clearly isn’t

[sweet dune]

ill take it if they are in a really distant multiverse
but they definately are not in the same universe

[hard meteor]

I don’t get where you reached this conclusion,there is nothing that proves Johnny is Jonathan’s equivalent not only does that not make sense, it would mean that his family line is the main one so I have to ask again why isnt Irene there if they are the same universe you have not answered this question

[strange hamlet]

perhaps both

[hardy trench]

ok so admitting this, you admit theyre in two different universes

[sweet dune]

and johnnys dad is George II

[hardy trench]

so your entire point earlier has been disproven by yourself

nope there is

[lucid locust]

Bro they’re two separate universes within JoJo, so yeah call it a multiverse idgaf lmao

[hardy trench]

araki literally said theyre in two different universes

all you need

[hard meteor]

Irene not being there is proof against the first one

[hardy trench]

ok?

[hard meteor]

Different universes of his own world

[hardy trench]

and theyre still in 2 different universes

ok, a multiverse means theyre in 2 different universes

ok?

[hard meteor]

And there’s no valentine in the main verse

Why bring that up then

[sweet dune]

are dimensions and universes the same thing

[lucid locust]

This whole multiverse thing isn’t a huge breakthrough, it literally means there’s different universes in JoJo

[quaint imp]

So Valentine does exist in the ireneverse?

[hardy trench]

no

[hard meteor]

No

[median ridge]

No

[hardy trench]

ok but whats your point here

[quaint imp]

Damn true

[hardy trench]

theyre different universes you just said it yourself, araki said it

literally everyone here is saying it

what are you holding on to

yes

theyre set in different universes

[lucid locust]

There’s minor differences but it’s not relevant so they’re essentially the same thing in this case

[hardy trench]

yes a multiverse means theyre in different universes

great job you proved our point

[sweet dune]

i honestly thought Dimensions were just parrel versions of one universe

[quaint imp]

The main universe and the sbr universe aren't even in the same multiverse smh

[hardy trench]

probably not no

no theyre not araki said they arent

[median ridge]

Patch,please stop making things more complicated and just accept the fact that it's different universes
If you wanna believe something then you do you

[hardy trench]

araki said theyre in two seperate universes, multiverse or not

there is no possibility of it being in the same universe

[sweet dune]

how about we accept the fact that its 2 different stories not set in any multiverse

[hardy trench]

now you can ask yourself if its in a multiverse or 2 completely different universes with no corrolations

but saying theyre the same universe is a lie

[lucid locust]

Ok drop the multiverse thing, the essentials are that the Ireneverse and the SBRverse are two separate things

[lucid locust]

As stated by this

[hardy trench]

part 7 verse does

[sweet dune]

the SBR multiverse

[hardy trench]

and like weve stated before, ireneverse is not the same universe as sbr verse

[sinful bramble]

This conversation is gonna fry my brain

[hardy trench]

so its completely possible that they are not the same universee

[strange hamlet]

Same

[sweet dune]

already has fried mine

[hardy trench]

who said they cant?

no one can prove it, this shit is all a theory my man

[lucid locust]

Saying there’s more than one universe isn’t anything new, in terms of the universes within JoJo there’s a multiverse. You’re arguing with nothing.

[hardy trench]

youre saying this as if we have all the information on multiverses but no, some dude in his moms basement mad the entire idea in the first place

yeah you can

[strange hamlet]

Just like every jojo theory

[hardy trench]

yeah they do exist in a different universe because they arent canon

[median ridge]

I didn't expect anyone to make a multiverse theory ever that is complicated,when in reality it's really fucking simple

[hardy trench]

you can because its the seventh part

[sweet dune]

Jojo part 7 wasnt even called jojos when it started

[hardy trench]

and thats whats happening here actually

you just proved your point

it isnt the same story, however it is still part 7 as it is the seventh part in the jojo franchise

thats why its literally called jojos bizarre adventures

because its a jojo part and the seventh one at that

[lucid locust]

Games aren’t canon so they don’t count, we have the Ireneverse (formerly the original universe) the SBRverse and the AU’s Valentine visits that’s it.

[hardy trench]

yes it would

[strange hamlet]

Jojo fans like making bullshit convoluted theories

[hardy trench]

there is no correlation by the name sake of a part and the universe its in

its called part 7 because get this

its the seventh part

it has NOTHING to do with the universe

[median ridge]

Why do you not get araki saying that its not connected

[hardy trench]

just because it is the SEVENTH part in the jojo franchise

yes it is still jojo, and no, there is no proof it all exists in a multiverse

sbr verse has a multiverse, that is confirmed

[sweet dune]

and here i thought the nasuverse or marvel discussions were confusing and stupid sometimes

[hardy trench]

but irenverse has no proof of it being linked to sbr verse

honestly I dont see why you cant understand this its quite simple

nope

its his ability

[lucid locust]

That’s a soul thing not a universe thing

[strange hamlet]

I thought nothing could be more stupid than GER arguments

[lucid locust]

His soul is trapped in the death loop

The deaths are essentially convoluted dreams

[hardy trench]

honestly its quite simple

there is no proof of correlation between ireneverse and sbr verse

simple as that

[lucid locust]

They don’t exist within reality

Here let me break it down

[hardy trench]

nope

that is simply not true

the reason I disprove their lack of relation is now get this

because araki said they arent related

[median ridge]

The only thing you are lacking is not understanding made in heaven's ability

[hardy trench]

breakthrough I know

and

because no prove of ireneverse having been connected to a multiverse

[lucid locust]

The Ireneverse, the SBRverse and the SBR AU’s are all canon universes that exist within the property of JoJo, we don’t know how the multiverse works but in terms of existing within JoJo you can call it a multiverse. That’s it, it doesn’t actually affect anything.

[hardy trench]

is it a possibility? maybe, but we did see that in sbr verse the multiverse was very similar, and all the universes had slighter variations

the shift between ireneverse and sbr verse is major and wouldnt make sense as just an "alternate"universe in the multiverse

[lucid locust]

No

He was actually trying to show off that because of ASB they can meet each other but that’s irrelevant to the conversation

[hardy trench]

its actually not that deep

[lucid locust]

This conversation doesn’t need to be had, it’s really not going to affect anything

[hardy trench]

any jojo argument ever

now maybe and this might be a wild call here

araki likes to make references

like I said

its actually not that deep

[lucid locust]

It’s called a reference 💀

[hardy trench]

its just a fun call back

[median ridge]

Omfg, I am losing braincells

[hardy trench]

like omg, do you remember avdol?

do you remember stroheim?

araki does thats why hes making them again in a different universe

yeah youre getting it

[lucid locust]

DIO exists within Jump Force therefore they must be in a connected multiverse 😱😱😱

[hardy trench]

ok now

there is no reason for correlation to mean it being in a multiverse

things are similar sometimes

Im sure some mangas share similarities with eachother, dont mean theyre all int the same grand animeverse or some shit

[lucid locust]

Jesus fucking christ

[hardy trench]

its just because

[strange hamlet]

i've already lost all of mine

[hardy trench]

taking inspiration from things you find fun is well

fun

and araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work for new characters

thats true

but like we established earlier, this is a completely different universe

[lucid locust]

Bro this is insane

[hardy trench]

there is no connection to the 2 universes

so you could very much treat it like a new manga, because it has a new universe with a new story

yeah and ok now this may sound crazy

[lucid locust]

People make JoJo references irl therefore JoJo must exist within a multiverse of this world 😱😱😱😱

[hardy trench]

but did you realise that part 7 was very similar to the earlier parts of jojo?

[sweet dune]

did you know that there are people who can have the same name as you?

[hardy trench]

because get this, araki likes to take stuff from his earlier parts

bam

thats the entire fucking argument man

it does

because

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

because

[hard meteor]

No

[hardy trench]

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

[median ridge]

Then can you please explain why strohiem and avdol are in the same place in 1891

[hardy trench]

because

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

[lucid locust]

God Patch I’m trying to be nice but man are you saying some shit

[hardy trench]

you can see part 7 and 8 as a celebration of jojo, taking a lot of cues from earlier parts. fans of course will love this, and it makes it appealing to go to after making a new universe

because get this

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

ive actually said it quite a few times now patch

not too hard to read it

[hard meteor]

The ending were like Jobin and Kaato dies and josuke just moves on about holly dying to eat cake? I’m not sure where fate is tied to that

[hardy trench]

now they do actually

because

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

[sweet dune]

stands in both universes are very different though

[hardy trench]

and stand were a great idea that worked well commercially

bam

its all about the money baybeee

there is no proof of this

youre just saying things

the reason they are similar

and now say it with me

araki likes to take inspiration from his earlier work

[sweet dune]

the jojo games arent canon

[hardy trench]

the jojo games arent canon why are you using them as proof

no

because there is none

[median ridge]

Patch Then can you please explain why strohiem and avdol are in the same place in 1891

[hardy trench]

there is no proof for it, youre just making shit up

[sweet dune]

mf trying to turn jojo into a nasuverse type situation

[hardy trench]

why do you want this so badly man

[crisp vigil]

i’ve never seen such a relentless yet stupid mf

[hardy trench]

most sane people wouldve just stood up and left

[strange hamlet]

Lmao

[hardy trench]

now see just because its similar, doesnt mean its actually a multiverse

[lucid locust]

No, they’re not, cause Araki didn’t make them

[hardy trench]

and funnily enough, there is no proof of a multiverse

youre just making shit up that it exists

meanwhile, no proof 🤷

come back to me when you get some evidence my man

nope

I know about multiverses actually

and if there indeed was a multiverse, yes, it would work like that

however

there is no proof of a multiverse

[strange hamlet]

b-b-but D4C!!!!!!!

[sweet dune]

so Breaking Bad is in the same multiverse as spongebob

[hardy trench]

true

in sbr, there is a multiverse

but its condensed into just the verse of sbr

in sbr they also explained that the multiverse had minimal changes

drastic ones such as ireneverse or the fighting games wouldnt make sense

not too hard to understand the words coming from the manga actually

ok I actually know what youre going to pull up now and one word

not canon

[median ridge]

Guys,remember when the chat wasn't talking about multiverses?
Good times

[hardy trench]

most of these cross overs are now get this

not canon

[strange hamlet]

twoh-

[hardy trench]

if you asked the character cloud from final fantasy 7 if he fought mario while steve from minecraft spiked him with a diamond pickaxe, he would say what the fuck are you talking about

because now get this

these cross overs are not canon

[median ridge]

It technically would be cannon,if dio completed his plan

[sweet dune]

Fan Theory

[lucid locust]

Bro

[hardy trench]

its alright

im finding this enjoyable

great news for them !

this however

[strange hamlet]

mf linked a fan theory 💀

[hardy trench]

does not imply jojo in the theory at all

so like I said

[light swift]

Poop files

[hardy trench]

youre just making shit up

[sweet dune]

real shit

[median ridge]

I agree

[hardy trench]

also this theory is fucking stupid

[strange hamlet]

true

[hardy trench]

this dudes point is that some actors are in the same shows

[sweet dune]

its like saying Persona is part of the Yakuza multiverse because they had a yakuza themed outfit pack

[hardy trench]

but with completely different roles

wow

this dude has not heard of a thing called casting before

[lucid locust]

Earth multiverse 😱😱😱

[light swift]

That logic is funny pmao

[hardy trench]

at this point you just trollin lmao

[median ridge]

I miss ger debates now😔

[hardy trench]

there is no way you believe this shit

[sweet dune]

man has read too many theories

[strange hamlet]

An actor being in multiple different shows? Impossible

[median ridge]

What...

[hardy trench]

well good for them

[strange hamlet]

TWOH debates are better than this

[hard meteor]

stopped taking him seriously when he brought up multiverses,at this point its clear hes just messing around

[hardy trench]

cross overs are funny

and even if

even if all this was true right

how the fuck does this include two seperate jojo universes being together

[sweet dune]

id disagree
its been a while since we had a debate thats not the same shit

[hardy trench]

just because one universe does crossovers, does it mean theyre together? no

phinease ferb and spiderman did a crossover

[strange hamlet]

well this is a new kind of debates at least

[hardy trench]

is that canon?

no

[sweet dune]

bri ish teeth

[median ridge]

But atleast the twoh and ger debates are actually jojo related

[light swift]

I think ger and goku should kiss

[hardy trench]

ger would uh

still win tho

by being the better kisser

[light swift]

Ok pause

[hardy trench]

hes a passionate lover frfr

[median ridge]

Okay they are trolling 100%

[light swift]

[strange hamlet]

I can't take this person seriously anymore

[light swift]

BRAKIN BA

[sweet dune]

who tf is Tommy Westphall

[median ridge]

I think that's too much trolling for today don't you think patch?

[hardy trench]

now whats funny is that

sometimes

other tvs shows like to appreciate other shows by

making a funny reference

[light swift]

Aching bad

[hardy trench]

like for example showing a bag of blue meth, or making a joke involving a character from that show

[median ridge]

Where jojo

[hardy trench]

im sure that if you asked the writer of unbreakable kimmy schmidt if they were connected to arrow they simply would say no

because get this

its a fucking reference

it has a name

a reference

no it doesnt connect everything

no theyre not in a multiverse or universe

they are

making a reference

[median ridge]

Answer this question,where jojo

[kind owl]

@median ridge, Your Stand Rank is now level 11 !

[sweet dune]

ok this debate has officialy gone to a shithole

[strange hamlet]

yes

[median ridge]

4 more levels and I get hermes

[lucid locust]

Sometimes i miss the “The Hand can just swipe itself” type debate, those are more fun than this lmao

[strange hamlet]

"Guys, trust me, my theory is 100% true!!!"

GER debates are better than this

[median ridge]

Tracking it is not the answer,where is jojo in this paragraph

[hardy trench]

I think this is funny

[median ridge]

I don't see any jojo related shit here

[strange hamlet]

where jojo

[hardy trench]

its pretty easy to just completely get this guys point destroyed and he just switches to another

"well we dont know if ireneverse are in the same universe or a multiverse"

we do

"well we dont know if theyre in a multiverse or not"

we know theyre not

"well other shows do it so they must do it too"

no

[sinful bramble]

I took an entire shower and this conversation is still going

[hardy trench]

"has to be"

thats your entire point

it just HAS TO BE like this

but what if and now listen up

it just doesnt have to be like that

because

it isnt

yeah because its a funny fighting game that isnt canon

key word

isnt canon

[strange hamlet]

but multiverse!!!!!!!!

[median ridge]

How do you even come up with this theory

[hardy trench]

sure it has its own universe ill give you that

but is it connected to a multiverse? no

its a fucking video game, not based on reality

its like this because it wants to be

[strange hamlet]

by watching WAY too many theories

[hardy trench]

it doesnt have to be connected and it doesnt have to make sense

its a show about fighting ghosts

and breathing to kill vampires

[median ridge]

No,this theory is boss level shit

[hardy trench]

not everything has to make sense !!!

[median ridge]

Because it doesn't make sense

[hardy trench]

but it doesnt matter because its a fucking videogame !!!

[strange hamlet]

the final boss of confusing dumb theories

[chrome vale]

TIL Akufu IS Wonder of U. I thought it was just another dude who the stand superimposed himself onto, but that ghost can actually shapeshift!

[hardy trench]

it doesnt make sense !!!

what are you talking about

it doesnt make sense because it doesnt have to be

youre trying to connect everything that doesnt need connecting

the jojo games arent canon, as they are seperate from the manga

no, theyre not connected by some multiverse bull shit

theyre just seperate

"but how do they have the same characters"

because get this, its a video game, and it isnt real

this is all theoretical

no proof

no evidence

no nothing

you got nothing

[strange hamlet]

source: trust me pls

[hardy trench]

he just ignoring me cus he know im right

[strange hamlet]

thanks sherlock

[median ridge]

You can honestly just believe what you want I won't judge you,but if you act like that vegan teacher,and convince people by force of your beliefs Is pretty shitty

[hardy trench]

me when I talk about baseless facts on the internet

bro the "connections" are the same actors appearing in different shows there is no fucking connection

its called having multiple people appear in multiple shows

youre honestly just an idiot and I really dont want to say this because its demeaning but its true

ok and lets say they did

lets say goku met naruto

lets say they lived happily ever after and kissed

[sweet dune]

can we get a mod to wipe this entire channel so we can abandon the topic

[median ridge]

Bro Ryan Reynolds acted in another movie! That means dead pool and free guy are connected!!!!

[hardy trench]

this still wouldnt be canon

because naruto or goku never refer to it ever again

[sweet dune]

unless the author says its canon then its canon

[hardy trench]

its a fanservice crossover episode

[median ridge]

Yes please

[strange hamlet]

please ping one

[hardy trench]

alr ill wait 20 years for your theory to be true... part of it because this still has nothing to do with jojo

[median ridge]

This is the most shitty topic i have ever seen

[hardy trench]

listen, just using examples of things being a certain way, doesnt mean everything is a certain way

have you seen gintama?

[strange hamlet]

i'd rather argue with dbz powerscalers

[hardy trench]

that shit is FILLED with references and "crossovers" between different animanga

and none of it is actually canon

[median ridge]

Okay,who gives a shit
It's not jojo related

[hardy trench]

its a goofy show

its fun

crossovers are fun

theyre not real

or canon

the way some medium is, is the way the creator wants it to be

yeah there is a game shonen jump universe

[alpine trench]

infinite universes don't equal infinite possibilities, it's weird to me that people in this server don't get it when this factor is what allows Steel ball run plot to work

[hardy trench]

does this connect all the manga with each other?

no

it does not

[sweet dune]

theres a universe where this shitty 1 second joke is actually canon and is connected to another universe

[hardy trench]

because the game universe is seperate

[quaint imp]

So is jump force canon to dbz?

[hardy trench]

not a multiverse, SEPERATE

[hardy trench]

nope theyre seperate

[alpine trench]

it doesn't, there are infinite numbers between 3 and 4 none of them are a 5

[median ridge]

Not jojo related,I won't take it as a fact

[alpine trench]

this is common sense

[hardy trench]

so your entire point is because its like this in one show, its like this in all of them

just because one guy was a terrorist, doesnt mean all guys are terrorists

THINGS ARE DIFFERENT

[quaint imp]

Rick and Morty right, Araki wrong

[hardy trench]

wow thats crazy, my point still fucking stands

[median ridge]

Patch that's enough trolling for today

[hardy trench]

just because its in a billion shows, doesnt mean its in all of the shows

like honestly, its not that fucking hard to understand

one example doesnt contaminate the other samples

youre joking

because

[quaint imp]

Is Akiyama in the JoJo universe?

[hardy trench]

the guy that made jojo

lives

in our world

its as simple as that

BUT IT IS A FUCKING FICTION

its about fighing vampires

[sweet dune]

uhh
Jolyne kick barraged westwood
Akiyama Kick barrages people
akiyama is in the jojo universe

[hardy trench]

its all based in fiction

you cant just apply real world logic

[strange hamlet]

but it is

[hardy trench]

thats not how it fucking works

[median ridge]

[hardy trench]

we wouldnt be able to, because we dont have interdimensional trave

man the loops you are jumping through

[strange hamlet]

Patch i think that's enough trolling

[hardy trench]

applying real world logic to jojo makes no sense because jojo makes no sense

its a show where people fight with stands and turn bananas into guns

[median ridge]

At this point i don't know if they are trolling or not

I hope they are

[hardy trench]

how the fuck can a sane human being say "well what if real world"

well there is no if, because it doesnt work like that

[strange hamlet]

Something tells me they're not

[median ridge]

Jojo is fucking fiction,which means it can be whatever fucking thing it can be
It's that simple

[hardy trench]

well no because none of those have anything to do with jojo

we are talking about jojo

you are such a fucking idiot man not even funny