#jojolion
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do not disrespect the mans family
Oh shiver me timbers
You can have both
yEs
No you cant
No cause he has a "no girls allowed" policy
The deep manga state is pushing the narrative that Araki hates drawing jojo and wants to quit and they are 100% correct
why he got 2 girls then
*no girls allowed at the office
ah ok
big sadge
Not really
What’s a big Sadge
Just don't release as frequent as he has been boom
Is that another way to say big ups
but if that happens we gon get part 12 by 2150
why would we get a part 12
I mean do you feel like if jojolion ended it would be the last jojo
Its the reddit way of saying "very unfortunate"
Reddit lingo lmao
Very sadge :(
Not wholesale chungus 100
Joshu poggers??
Joshu popchamp
Pop
He is a man of culture, take this gold kind stranger
Sadge is a twitch emote I think
Anyways
Neat bit of theming I just realised
Probably already been said but
Blue Hawaii looks like a headless chicken
And the ability makes its victims run like a headless chicken towards the target
galaxy brain araki
a lot of jojolion colored stands are blue? i like them but when i first was reading jojolion i was mixing up doobie wah blue hawaii 
There is a tiny head on its crotch
it’s the ideal human form
That's like a belt buckle
Also anyone else hate how most stand these days show up for like, one panel?
True
me when space trucking
Yes
I wish stands were more sentient honestly
It seems like most stand's designs don't really play into their abilities.
Me when Nut King Call for most of the manga is absent
Honest that's one reason I love WOU
WoU was cool
The stand probably had more screen time than the actual user
Like last truly sentient stand I can remember is under world early on?
WoU is tooru talking through it
I guess milagro
But that doesn't talk or anything
It also was there for longer then almost every other stand in the part I think
I guess C Moon actually if not counting solo stands like milagro
Or was there one in part 7 I forgot?
I
Hey ya
Ummm
I wonder if we will ever get a sentient stand buddy like FF
king nothing is somewhat sentient
although it still follows commands 
Hey ya then
Sugar Mountain kinda
It's automatic
Iirc
Yeah but it doesn't talk or emote
I think Stands are like domestic animals in that they have their own thoughts, but they perform best on their utility
I always believed that early in a basic punch ghost's discovery it's sentient for a bit becoming non-sentient soon after
I wonder what'll happen on the last chapter
With my main evidence being spice girl and under world
That's kinda horrifying
Maybe it's like a split personality thing?
Well idk overall
its subconscious on first appearance
Spice Girl was Trish talking to herself I think
The stand is actually just a part of the user conscience, and they just slowly merge as they develop
That sounds about right
Under world was weird because it seemed to be talking separate from Donatello and acted pretty different
Early on
Actually I always thought if White Snake stole a disc and inserted it into another person the personality of the stand's previous user rubs off on the person he inserted into when I was reading it.
It isn't
But that would have been interesting
i think it would be the other way around
Like imagine if Pucci had the balls to remove his own disc and put it into another person to escape
maybe if whitesnake gave a stand that didn’t fit, eventually that stand would mold into the user’s ideal version
but it would take time
super intelligence and cooperation
Like I wonder what the stand disc used on them originally did
She can increase the size of her boobs
@fierce schooner, Your Stand Rank is now level 8 !
took over a human body
don't forget that
No i mean like how did the stand disc make f.f get her abilities
What type of stand would give a plankton colony that
wait wat was f.f again?
If it stays the same stand
Foo fighters
I think Pucci juat gave the plankton intelligence
And the plankton developed Foo Fighters
Didn't he throw specifically a stand disc inside?
strength in numbers 💪
I am not 100% sure, it's been a while and I'm purposely forgetting most details for when I watch the anime
Main villain stands give me headaches
Well not forgetting, more like storing in a mental vault
At least going by Gucci man and nothing suggesting the opposite
like hot water
Imagine being the boiling water stand person
or killing yourself
What a terrible life
i wonder how the original user used the boiling water
I assume it was like they were also immune to the boiling water originally idk
they bouled water in the toilet
But then why would f.f get hurt
hot shit
give people 3rd degree burns :
plankton die from high water temperature
I think that person could actually control it, but stands in discs are sorta dangerous cuz it's not yours so it doesn't always have your best interests in mind
So do humans
Actually true
yes
Like Jolyne and star platinum
but there is an exact and lower temperature
wait what
why are you guys talking about so in jojolion i got confused in where i was
we can
ight
I was talking about sentient stands
ye same we can talk about jojolion in so but we gon get bannned
Except that's spoilers
Talking about SO in jojolion isn't spoilers unless someone is a part skipping nonce
This channel is essentially a better overall discussion that you unlock as a reward for completing JoJolion.
(And that's good)
Someone send that copium pic pls
If it doesnt matter why is it there
For all the countless reasons that a chat may have slowmode?
If someone wants to spam something against the rules/explicit evey second, then they can’t
Why have slow mode when everyone here is, figuratively speaking, slow
So why is it only this chat that has a slowmode?
If it was to stop spam every single channel would have it
You could argue that when the final chapter is dropped or the couple days before a slowmode is probably better due to the influx of people that would be in this chat
But spam clearly isnt their intent behind the slowmode
It isn’t?
there’s like 4 of you atm
Plenty of chats have slowmode in this server rn
parts 1-5, and 7 are free
Oh wow like 7 of the 40 chanels have slow mode
Some of them for reasonable spam stoppage probably like jojokes and memes and cute animals
Others cause of bigger population like general spoilers, jojo overall, general no spoilers and hype coming with the anime for part 6
If 2 seconds is as irrelevant as you said why isnt it in all the channels?
It's not that deep tbh, the staff just don't really care about removing slowmode lmao
Other slowmodes are 5 and 10 seconds
like tell you to not spam h
I know its not that deep but the way they replied to me was annoying so now im arguing 👍
Hato can walk on fucking walls and kick barrage with heels
She's a model she been prepared
True
she’s gotta have that legwork
Runway queen
non-goth abbachio
Because JJL chat has no chill
except when it kinda does
And when it gets even crazier the slow mode gets longer
It wouldn’t be a particularly easy job
Maybe for you

@steady mural, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !
It's because this is the only currently running part of jojo's manga, so a whole lot of discussion regularly happens here, and with many discussions also comes many heated talks, staff aren't always available so this helps to at least try and mitigate the mudslinging
And likely for you too
I'd honestly would loooooove(sarcastic) someone to be able to handle jjl when it is even just almost as at it's worst, considering they don't even listen to mods until someone has to get muted or something
Understandable cause this chat boutta go crazy whole week before the new chapter comes too
Lemme get the iron hammer I'll take care of this fr
That's an understatement
Not to be mean but you haven't even been in this server for like, a month
You're severely underestimating this channel
Lmaoo nah im just playing
I'll see when the new chapter comes how bad it'll get lol
So just take it from us who have actual experience and a lot of time spent here because we actually care, don't put yourself up too much
Downfall of many jjl readers being too high on their horse
Lmaoooo
JJL is fire
So high on their horses that they are floating above the horse
You'll see me in like 4 channels max man im not tryna associate with too many of these mfers ahaha
Jojolion is the best part
Indeed
Not in my opinion
sup wou
Sure but what's the relevance of this reply to my message
I didn't say anything about jjl
if Araki releases a banger ending (idk how with one chapter) I'd have to agree
I agree, but next chapter could shift things since Part 8 and 7 are very close for me
I'm talking about the readers of it
No
Fair enough
Yooo same
The ending is gonna be important but even if the ending isn’t amazing I’m still gonna say jojolion is 10/10
lmao
As long as the ending is decent and not like terrible
same I love jjl
Fr
was on chapter 70 3 days ago and on 109 yesterday
Lol
yeah but I don't get the point of 109
Nothing is 10/10 bro
We'll see
No
It was definitely planned out from the beginning I can say that at least
the rating connoisseur entered the chat
that is an opinion thing
You dont even know what that word means bro
Nothing is peak fiction*
10/10 doesn’t necessarily mean perfect, to some people it just means that they’d fully recommend something
I honestly don't care
You should
What’s wrong with me saying jojolion is a 10/10?
Easier to say 10/10 than 9.5, 6, 7 etc
🤨🤨
Round up
Excuse me
Anyways who’s ur favorite character in jojo
Nice to meet you too
gyro or Rohan
Probably Jotaro
Jotaro too yeah
Diego Brand
Imo Josuke 8
Idk people think your wou
He’s quite bland in Part 3, but I like him a lot more in 4-6
my wou
WoU is so goated
Yea bro
WoU is the best stand ever
I've heard that someone in boruto has the same ability
Fax
Bruh jojolion is so nice
Sad that it’s ending tho
True
Tohth
What
Oh that one
@quasi geode, Your Stand Rank is now level 4 !
Thoth is a bad stand
Dio imo is one of the weaker Jojo villains
True
DIO/Dio is my favourite villain
oingo boingo
But Dio is so iconic
How would you rank every villain then
@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 4 !
very rare I see one of you, Dio is unappreciated tbh
Imo he’s my least favorite
Even above Kars?
Yeah I think Kars is overhated
Ohhh okay
DIO/Dio, Pucci, Valentine, Kars, Kira, Tooru = Diavolo
Worst Dio then Kars. Then Tooru then Pucci Then Valentine and my favorite is Kira
Oh yeah forgot diavalo
Whats the different DIO/Dio here
- Tooru
- Valentine
- Pucci
- Kars
- Dio
- Diavolo
- Kira
Imo from best to worst, Tooru, Valentine, Kira, Pucci, Diavolo, Kars, Dio/DIO
Kira that low is insane
So based
in power, not character
Word
Valentine=Pucci > Kira > DIO/Dio > Tooru > Kars > Diavolo
The problem with Dio he is so like stereotypical like I want to end the world cliche
part 1 and 3 which i always put together because i don't rank part 1 and 3 DIO seperetly
Imo Tooru and Funny Valentine is the best villains
So what does WOU's power have to do with Tooru's character thematically?
Tbh idk
- Kira
- Valentine
- Pucci
- Diavolo
- Dio
- Tooru
- Kars
part 6 flips that entire idea though, he's not just like that
Wdym like it’s basically a curse on whoever pursued it similar to how the whole story has dealt with the curse of the higashikata family
Tooru first coming in 75% into the part doesn’t help
Bruh you are his stand how do you not know this
- Valentine
- Kira
3.Pucci/Tooru - Both Dios
5.diavolo - kars
That has nothing to do with Tooru specifically.
he doesn't wanna end the world
While he wanted to make death and fate no longer equal
Same thing
That's basically the same thing Tooru wants
he wants peace of mind
👍
It’s a boring cliche that is in a lot of fiction
execution matters more than premise
Wanting to rule the world means nothing if it doesn't effectively change the status quo
He wants to be above the rich by making them need his product so that rock humans can be above everyone
True
I feel like Tooru has a much cooler ideology about memories and Dio’s ideology was introduced in like part 6 after he was the villain
part 3
he does though, the heaven plan
Nah his whole heaven thing was in part 6
DIO's idiology is introduced in part 3
it was foreshadowed in p3
Oh I thought he was talking about Tooru
Peace of mind, part 3
The Heaven plan is about peace of mind
Because I have no idea what a world ruled by rock humans would be
heaven is in part 6 yes, but his ideology is also in part 3
part 6 just adds another layer, so to speak
But Pucci feels like he is doing what Dio did but better
Tooru wants to put rock humans on top of the societal structure and arguably some of the doctors want to use the plant for medicine
Like I guess if rock humans ruled the world more people would be assholes
I like toorus character and I like how he opposed Gappy thematically
not like Dio is gonna start ranting his ideology to people he views as food, hence why it's mainly expanded upon in p6
I don't give a damn about themes if i am not enjoying the rest of the stuff
Same reason part 5's thematically ness does nothing for me
however, it is introduced in p3 through the "peace of mind" speech
I mean Tooru's endgame felt really vague
Everyone wants to rule the world, what makes him special
so you didnt enjoy it but you do realize it was well written
Not really
The thing about Tooru I found amazing is that at first he was just a regular guy, and then slowly you start to realize he caused everything in every new chapter you see how he manipulated new people, first you see the head doctor with holly, then you see mamezukus dads funeral, then you see him with yasuho as a child, like slowly you start to see everything he created
hes a rock and he has op stand
Idk about the themes but i've found plenty of holes in part 5 fights
So some of the fights aren't well written
True
I never liked the end of the White Album fight
hmmmmmmm
why
Giornos theme go brr
Boring tbh
Well the reason why he’s doing it is because he was devoid of any mother figure as a child, it literally states that rock humans mothers abandon them at birth in chapter 99 and they only have a wasp to take care of them or soemthing which explains why he’s trying to reach out to the wasp at the end
And also Tooru wants to be remembered by the world that was his whole point of his speech to caato in chapter 107
I also like how Gio is like, let's go in the water, he can't freeze all of it
Starts freezing the water
Snowboard
Gio: OH FUCK THAT WAS A BAD IDEA
I don't like the snowboard thing, it looks cool buuuut given previouly established powers Mista should die while trying to make it
ghiaccio is who i think of when i remember that la squadra was supposed to be the best of the best, man was virtually unstoppable
By which i mean the retconned damage reflection
Really? I thought not having a mother was a reason for all rock humans being apathetic, how does that play into his motivation. Also why have a double identity of the head doctor if he wanted to be remembered by the world?
Since Mista tears grass up, living grass, he should die, but he doesn't
Because he wanted to hide behind the facade of the head doctor even though deep down he was scared of his own death and demise which really shows in chapter 108
!w tooru
I'm half way done with jojolion I'm on chapter 60
Also Tooru literally made Josuke lmao
He expiremented on holly which prompted Josefumi and Kira to search for the fruit which ultimately ended up with them fusing and becoming Josuke
also how
Okay I changed my mind
Josefumi si not only a badass.. he has a cool name.
His name has grown on me now
He still has a shit cut tho.
the thing about this is that, other than the holly thing, these are things we had no prior knowledge about at all, and are introduced to us during tooru's long arc. it's like it's saying "oh did you know, x thing happened in mamezuku's past, and coincidentally it's caused by the main outside character during this arc"
so it opens up the idea of arkai just making up any possible random scenario in the past that we have had no prior knowledge about at all, shoehorning tooru in it, and we'd be fine with that
Wonder Of U as the main villain >>>>>>>>>> Tooru as main villain
heck, araki didn't even utilize the yasuho hairclip rockbug idea into tooru being in yasuho's past
which he really should have
Araki forgot about a loose emd 6 years later and made a note to give Tooru the credit
@worthy heron, Your Stand Rank is now level 13 !
We should have been told something about Memezuku's father before
No
You're just jealous you don't have a pompadour fresh from a toaster
it's an afro

didnt know what you were talking about but i looked back at the fight. Giorno accredits damage reflection as the creature trying to protect itself. He also says something about it "not being loyal to him yet" implying he can control when this ability is used. In the case with the tundra grass, grass has no will of its own so it should only be controlled by him. This also means it cannot protect itself
Does a tree have a will of it's own
No right
Why'd a tree reflect 3 Freeze then
A tree might
pretty sure trees have the will to protect themselves or at least make decisions, i dont think grass does
at least tundra grass which is the type giorno made
trees are far more complex than grass
Does it need to be conscious will to defend itself
Plants do have a defense mechanism but i wouldnt call it a consious effort
in the case of the frog defending itself, it was a conscious action the frog made on its own. You could either say the tree has a will to protect itself but the grass doesn't or that Giorno made the decision to use damage reflection with the tree
Pretty sure he can't control a creature he just made
Hence "this frog is not loyal to me yet"
^
Doesn't grass like, have entire defense mechanisms when it realizes it's being cut
it makes a smell
I'm pretty sure if trees are "conscious", grass should be too
it just smells and that's lawn grass
because the frog can make conscious decisions
so can a tree apparently
What's the difference
the difference between tundra grass and lawn grass?
tundra grass is more complex, because it can live in harsh environments
Yeah but, what's the difference above just physical characteristics? We're talking about the will a plant has when it realizes it's being "hurt" and I'm sure tundra grass has its own too.
I guess I'll take a new point. I think that Giorno made a conscious decision with the tree and not with the frog.
Why would a plant that has a "will" of it's own be more loyal then a frog
Also, does the damage reflection thing only somehow apply to plants and animals? Since parts of Giorno's body should be invincible if it applies to anything created by GE.
well it defended itself did it not
Bro what is this discussion fucking hell
and I'm saying it's possible Giorno was the one that did that?
Zero refuses to accept Araki threw Gio's creation's damage reflection ability in the garbage
separate organisms, pieces of giorno's body aren't separate
He doesn't control his shit when he just made it
your reasoning for this is that it should've killed mista when he tore up a bunch of grass when that doesnt make much sense
If he could use this damage reflection strategically then he would, or else he's an idiot for not even trying to strategically use one of his most powerful abilities
Yes, it reflects damage, Mista is killing the grass, he should die
the reason he wasnt able to control the frog was because it was a separate organism that could make its own conscious decisions. It wasnt even around at the beginning of the altercation.
Even if it was not forgotten its is just totally stupid how doesn't take advantage of such a powerful ability
and that's dumb, I don't think araki would make a decision like that. Hence I'm bringing up another way giorno's ability can be interpreted.
So you are saying Gio is just stupid and doesn't ever use that ability
how could he have used the ability in other fights
Giorno is a himbo 🔥🔥
the two arent synonymous
Force the enemy to harm a plant or animal
Ehh bot himbo huh
bring up a specific scenario
have an animal ready
If i had that ability id be suited up in plant armor bro
bruh make moss grow all over your body, it would reflect all of the damage
Write a fight for it
he wanted to hurt ciocolatta, ciocolatta was probably the only side villain that he wanted to feel the same pain he'd have diavolo feel. Simply getting killed would suck
even better
already did
he didn't
he did

what fight
Leaky Eye Luca isn't a fight
it was a fight, short one though
K lemme rephrase what M said then
youre joking right holy shit
What’s happening
mf was not even a stand user
Leaky Eye Luca was an encounter rather than a fight
Arguing about Green Giorno's damage reflection ability being tossed away after the start
had no idea you needed to be a stand user for a fight to be considered a fight
Yes i said Green Giorno on purpose
No
Not really. The basic definition of a fight is "take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or weapons". Luca just attacked him once, Giorno didn't have any reason to fight back nor did either of them struggle throughout those... 2 minutes?
i think fight needs to have combat, i don't think a shovel hit is a fight
I ain’t remember what he said so
that's combat
fair enough
Tree reflected 3 freeze
I'd more assume Araki got rid of it cuz he couldn't think of another fight to use it in or just retconned it cuz he thought it was too stronk
He literally trew that ability of gio in the trash, most araki forgots are just bullshit but this one is true, it was giorno strongest ability and he just doesn't take advantage of it
i think too op tbh, or just hard to implement in fights and keep track of
I don't think he forgot
giorno has 4 fights. Black sabbath where it wouldnt work, ciocolatta where he purposefully wanted to torture that guy, diavolo where it'd feel cheap and ruin requiem, babyface where he had no chance to use it
He is involved in plenty of fights
possible, i dont think araki would retcon it simply bc it's too strong
Black sabbath is such a good song
It is
st/st/st is black sabbaths best trio
Black Sabbath is a good band
what are some more that i forgot
Having a self titles combo of song album band name is sick
Ye Black Sabbath is a great band one of the best
Could have tossed an animal to Bruno when Bruno went to fight Secco
he states that he couldnt make anything with white album, i dont think it would have been useful in man in the mirror though
that'd be weird but sure. Incredibly underused ability, I'll accept it
While White Album was away and distracted by Mista i'd say he was far enough to make something
Like an animal that lives in the cold
Idk a fuckin pengu
Holy shit Josuke really went full force
Mf this is how Jotaro should be punching his enemies, smh.
goatsuke
Vitamin C Arc is so fucking good
Tbh, the anime adaptation should've outright just tried to find a way to replace the two damage reflection scenes with something. I understand that it's difficult, but considering that this ability is never paid attention to again, plus the fact that Diavolo steps on one of the scorpions when fighting GER, is just unnecessary drama
The Scorpion scene is actually anime only
Facts
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about lol
Tfw can't use joshuthumb emote anymore
vitamin c was peak easily the best arc

Jotaro is more chill then Josuke
Don’t care, Jotaro needs to take a page of the clearly superior Jojo. 😎
yeah exactly why didn't he just read part 8 instead of waiting for the anime smh my head
Lmao
Everyone after reading Jojolion 100:
What happened in 100
best stand ability less goo
Debatable
One centimetre
@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 7 !
which scanlations are better? hi wa mata noboru or dog park
terrible take
godparks
Nah
yah
Tooru is peak antagonist
W
Cap
Anyone who disagrees, just read this Tooru analysis https://docs.google.com/document/d/18MqmAy2-mBqWPXfSbG317ry_VdYnEAQBB2LU8siiduI/edit?usp=drivesdk
Analysis on Tooru/ Composite for every analysis made on himTooru’s upbringing Tooru is a rock human, they are abandoned by mothers by birth and are left in the wild, where they hang on to a wasp and essentially take over the colony, they then grow up spontaneously at 17 years of age killin...
i aint reading that lmao
Oh good lord
there's no dog park scans on mangadex for a good amount of the chapters, and some chapters are missing english translations entirely
No wonder lmao
Paragraphs of headcanons
is there a better source for jojolion scans
How is it a headcannon
💀💀how it headcanon
preferably in black and white
Idk
Go on mangadex
Dogpark doesn’t upload to mangadex I don’t think, at least not now
He does
Bruh Tooru is the best villain why do you think anything he does well is a headcannon lmao
I disagree to the highest degree
same
Capping out your ass
Just read this https://docs.google.com/document/d/18MqmAy2-mBqWPXfSbG317ry_VdYnEAQBB2LU8siiduI/edit?usp=drivesdk
Analysis on Tooru/ Composite for every analysis made on himTooru’s upbringing Tooru is a rock human, they are abandoned by mothers by birth and are left in the wild, where they hang on to a wasp and essentially take over the colony, they then grow up spontaneously at 17 years of age killin...
No one is reading that
JoJolion muted
he does, but not for all the chapters
Not only is Tooru not the best villain I've ever seen
HiWa whatever does them then if Dogpark doesn’t
He's not even the best in JoJo
L
The biggest L is that you need to link a Google doc to us to prove he’s a competent villain
You don't need a google doc to prove Tooru is the best villain, he just is.
🥱
W
Cuz I can't even fit it
It's so long lmao
Capping out your ass
Exactly
Haters....... keep pinging..... im bouta cum........
Bro you just mad Tooru negs your favorite villain in writing
mf trying to use a google doc as proof
Bro without images deadass it's 4 pgs of pure peak
It got the whole analysis there?
Mangadex isn’t up to date cause it’s been hard to use. Got taken down by hackers a few months ago and lately it’s been slowly getting easier to use
That’s your only defense lol you didn’t even read it
Anyway
Like I said no one wants to read it
Tooru is dookie butt
I’m not reading fanfiction
ah, that sucks
POV: me and @sick igloo soloinh
is there a better source?
W
and? why would i
If i need to read a character analysis to understand/like a character, instead of getting it from the story, that's a bad character
Cuz maybe u won’t have bad takes anymore
it shouldn't take someone trying to explain the character to you with mostly headcanon for a character to become enjoyable
^^
Tooru is mid
Erik spittin
What the hell do you mean headcannon lmao
Thing is.. there is none
i mean headcanon
You can't win when Green Giorno and i agree
Everything is there, there’s literally proof for everything
it's too powerful
Tooru perfectly describes the negative aspects of humanity
Green Giorno and Erik combo means that you are wrong so
like people using some other guys motivation but because "Tooru is the boss" its his too
You don’t even make sense bruh
Toorus motivations are literally all there but y’all will ignore it
whats his motivation
Anyway, Joshu amirite
Tooru discourse worse than Joshu discourse now
@silk pumice look at these bozos lmao
Ong bruh
@silk pumice, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !
not reading an entire essay based on headcanon is a bad take?? jojolion copers are something else
Read the doc before you hate on it smh
JoJo fans with half a brain explaining why the feller with a quarter the screen time as other villains is peak writing
Fine lemme get a snippet of the doc
Tell me how it’s a headcannon please
i shouldn't need to read a doc , tell me what Toorus motivations are
JoJolion channel when
No one wants to read it you incels oh my god 😭😭
Braindead people explaining why more screentime = better character
Motherfuckers using fanfiction to prove their point 😭
Proof that you are brain dead
Josuke, a man who was born without memories, who cared for Yasuho, and tried to discover his own identity. A man whose bond with his mother was so strong it transcended across lifetimes. The strength of that powered his journey and gave him motivation to continue to create miracles that could overcome the curses placed in the town of Morioh. A man who is truthful and never deceits anyone. A man who thinks no matter what memories he might have, the bond created will “go beyond” his memories. Tooru, a man who died holding on to his last memory, who manipulated Yasuho, and stole the identity of another, whose bond with his mother was never established, so he could never have any true feeling of love, had calamities like “curses” plague morioh. A man who is a trickster and deceived the world. A man who values memories and believes that they are the only thing that holds importance and ultimately completes a person. And Josuke, a man that was trying to be compassionate to others, just ultimately led to his own greed while Tooru, who was greedy, was about to lead a new future for Rock Humans. Both born out of the ground, shaped by the world around them in 2 separate ways.
Too long didn’t read
That's the whole point
Bro if u ain’t gonna read it don’t call it fake
my guy if you need a google doc essay to get your point across thats already a bad sign,something like that shouldnt be needed for proving a point about a character
I’m not interested in fanfiction
None of this is remotely a stretch
Use your words buddy
Tooru is an Ubermensch
yes the character being around longer, let's us learn a lot about them, learn their motive, see them do cool stuff a lot, set them up as very menecing, let us grow to love/hate them
There
@near cedar he was foreshadowed multiple times lol
died
omg Tooru has memories ? 😱😱😱 i was so wrong he is the best MV
So now you’re just lying lol
coper logic
That does not make his character any better
He comes in 3/4 into the part
Poor tom?
he "shows up" as a shadow like twice i think
That is not foreshadowing
Just oversimplification to ignore his character
like a third into the story lol
Tooru was Diavolo done worse
Bro even ARAKI ignores his character
True
Actually the calamity itself was foreshadowed in SBr
no,it really wasnt
Lemme OVERSIMPLIFY
When
😈😈
Tooru killed Johnny josta
nah
it literally wasnt ???
leaf stand killed him
Hell no lmao
Tooru is an Ubermensch, What is an Ubermensch? The Übermensch represents a shift from otherworldly Christian values and manifests the grounded human ideal. The Übermensch try to make this world better by creating their own values than what people abide by the Judeo-Christian moral value. And that is what exactly what Tooru does, it is like he is doing something bad right now to benefit the future of Rock Humans, his moral value is that he must do everything to topple society and let rock humans prosper
Yeah it was lol
Not reading that
Too long
It's like 5 sentences you must be a level F not to understand this
Y’all mfs are so dumb to the point where you won’t read something that explains his character and then call him bad
@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 5 !
Did
@sick igloo W I'm getting brain dmg
No it was cristiano ronaldo
Not understanding ≠ not wanting to read
no it wasnt. fortune was the focus of SBR , it has nothing to do with what calamity in JJL is
Calamity is a form of fortune😭😭
This making me lose brain cells I swear
Did you just try to prove Tooru is a good character with Friedrich Nietzsche bs
some people are definitely failing english here
Tooru peak villain but fr this is getting boring
????
what
see what i was sayin bout headcanon ?
WWW
son put down the copium
how in the hell is that foreshadowing calamity
"Sorry honey, not now, I have a JoJolion channel debate to win."
Valentine is talking about sending bad luck away from him into other places
And Tooru is about sending bad luck from other places to people attacking him
why are you using an explanation of Love Train as a calamity foreshadow 💀💀
I doubt Araki planned Tooru in SBR, he doesn't think that far ahead lol
Tooru has the holy corpse (2021)
he doesn't send bad luck from other places
He brings bad luck to them
using someone elses ability to somehow prove another persons ability mattered in that time period lmao
its not a matter of planning ahead its a matter of connecting future events to past events
Tooru stans are a sad breed fr
Really
Calamity is just misfortune
im aware
Naw u just don't understand his character
but that doesn't connect the flow of calamity to whatever Valentine was doing
What
L
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bad luck existing doesn't make them related
This is actually sad
Stop spamming
Shut
Oh fuck trying to tell em lmao
Can you shut the fuck u

this has gone out of hand
what jjl cope does to a mf
Toorus entire character explained in a simple post
honestly i don't give a shit abt character if i enjoy it i like it and i do enjoy wonder of u as a stand
Tooru fanfiction I was sent a few weeks ago
this shits funny tho 💀
@dire furnace, Your Stand Rank is now level 13 !
Lmao
they left
if it takes THIS to try and explain why a character is good then that character isn't that good by default
You should read some of it it’s the worst shit I’ve ever heard
wait what where
That's actually impressive if what he said makes sense
🥱
It doesn’t make sense
Why
The video, full of reaches so long they’re insane
if you have to grasp at straws to add depth to something its meaningless , you can't force a motive.
Ah, misinterpreted what you meant
its all good
who is the jojolion antagonist
Goatru
araki
Tooru
Wonder of u
the reader
If you try to pursuit it or the user or think about pursuing them it creates endless calamities to kill you
Or somehow makes lame stuff dangerous? I guess
Like rain
Basically you vs the universe
Damo
What
What
based and true
if you try to pursue or attack Tooru, then anything bad that can happen will. example: you think about attacking Tooru so a nearby biker crashes into you and you break your arm
wonder of u solos
i thought sbr antagonist is diego
no
The guy who got folded by a character with no less than 30-50 minutes of screen time🗿
What?
So, Tooru?
someone told me that
The person who said that was buggin
ok
not really lol
is diego a minor antagonist then
Yeah
like the hitman team
Shut up
ok
You mean la squadra?
ye
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They used my full body edit as a reference! So cool!
no that was MY full body edit
no
Bro they were trying to overthrow the boss
You sure we read/watches the same anime?
Yes
you said the hitman team was the bodyguard team
Diego a primary antagonist not the main
oh
but I thought la squadra was the italian name for brunos team
nah
then what is it?
Risottos team
o
Bucci Gang
but on Team Bucciarati (ブチャラティチーム Bucharati Chīmu), also called Squadra Guardie del corpo (護衛チーム Goei Chīmu, lit. "Escort Team" or "Bodyguard Team"),
Hey man we dont make the rules
La squadra wants to kill bosu and bucci gang wants to protect bossu(at first)
They don't want to protect Diavolo tho
They just have a mission to fulfill, which is bringing Trish to the boss. I doubt they would really care if he was killed right there and then before they even got to him.
With Abbacchio, he outright says that he only cares about following Bruno's orders.
tooru my beloved
thats a shroom
Hundreds seethe over this man
@minor ore JoJo memes go in #manga-jojokes
I just realized that tsurigi is a pretty clear trans metaphor
Shut up
Forced to live as the opposite gender he really is
How??
I love how we call Tsrugi a baby even tho he’s 10 years old
no he is not
He was forced to live as a girl despite being a guy
SHUT THE FUCK UP
Wait are you serious-
You’re saying this about jojo-
You are aware what show this is right-
And that araki is an open supporter of the lgbt community?
JoJo isn't a LGBT manga. Just because there are a few gay characters
Like 2 right
Who says that its and LGBT manga?
That doesn’t mean there can’t be trans metaphors
It isn't
wtf are trans metaphors
Idk
A metaphor of a trans character despite them not being trans- aka a more subtle way of telling a trans story
Guys Jobin is a trans metaphor
He isn’t
Araki subtlety added his trans subplot during the Summer Vacation arc
Tsurugi never expresses discomfort in the fact that he has to dress like a girl for his first 14 years or so

Ok fair
Ngl I can’t tell if you guys are homophobic or I just came up with a shitty Theory
._.
Who cares
Jojorion
I care
Oh
:/
Damn sucks to suck then sorry
Bruh
tbh you can also apply josukes self discovery story with ones own question of identity
helo it is I Jojodoss welcom to jojo's top 10 totally not heterosexual characters
dont ask these ppl about it they cant relate
also idk why kq-another one bites the dust is still unbanned since they were absolutely rude in every argument ive seen of them and now they are also acting transphobic
while my dude liam is still in jail
I don't think they were banned ever
go to horny jail
yea idk how to phrase it, they havent been warned?
They haven’t been warned but should be
oh don't worry imma ask the ones with more power then I to deal with this
Which couple in jojo is the gayest
Giorno and mista

Generally there are no ship talks here because then its another endless argument
I feeel like that could be real but idk if araki was ever explicit in anything
@vocal gust, Your Stand Rank is now level 9 !
Only sex scene I can think of rn is Poor Tom someone help
kira photos part 8?
I wish those were dr kiras pics
c'mon gaius
Go to real jail 
Jobin and Mitsuba kinda
And the two blokes who fucked above the rock cuck
Dio and Pucci

Totally forgot about those good memory damn, dolomite really is just still out there
Gracias
I was crossing my fingers for a Dolomite appearance later down the line
Since he was the only rock man they spared
Either one of those two actually gay couples in p5
He got retired I think
So we won’t see him unless it’s a flashback
They should have killed him
Okay he shouldn't be left free but I dunno about killing my boy Dolomite. Hasn't he been through enough
No
Idc what somebody has been trough, killing innocent people is not good
And Dolomite got many of em killed
Including kids
Didn’t Dolomite give them information though? Josuke was willing to spare Urban Gorilla for info but Rai told him no
Death to Dolomite
Wait he was?! Fuckin idiot
The whole stand killing people is why he should not be free, like yeah controlling a baby is no chill, but the thing is he knew the least about what was going on with his fellow species. He was fucked over until he had nothing left, not even arms or legs, jobin was the one who told him to do it so if anything he takes more of the blame, thats how it works
right? lmao
Jobin told him get rid of Josuke
Dolomite asked you don't have an issue with me killing him or collateral damage right?
They both deserve blame
Meaning he's willing to commit collateral damage
I would commit collateral damage for a bucket of chicken fuck y’all sayin
Sure yeah, gotta say though not the worst of the rock humans. If I remember correctly he knew that the only reason he was still alive was because he knew nothing about the operation, meaning there's a chance that he could have been considering his own life in danger
He also cooperated with Jousuke and yasuho just give him life in prison
Stone ocean but with Dolomite part 9 confirmed
Dolofortnite
Lmao
Dolomite
Dolite
Doit
Dio
I love the fact that literally every fucking panel with Rai's face visible in it has him with the "did I ask tho" expression 24/7
Even when he's just a bunch of apple peels
Bruh
how can i laugh at this there's no red circle
There needs to be a red circle
🤝
You didn’t
We allowed to send pics from the manga
yes
I understand that they are beyond logic but can someone go a little more in depth
Like do they still exist?
@dense tundra, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !
And also is it the spin or explosion doing the damage
the fusion of Josefumi's soap bubbles and Kira's explosives creates the Go Beyond spin (however, all the bubbles are string, even those that aren't launched by Go Beyond)
they exist, just not within the scope of ordinary physics and logic.



