#jojolion

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minor ore
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Yes, Mrs.Araki and his eldest son Adolf

spark dagger
minor ore
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Oh shiver me timbers

vocal gust
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You can have both

spark dagger
minor ore
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No you cant

spark dagger
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ye you can

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bring your family into the cramped cartoon room

minor ore
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No cause he has a "no girls allowed" policy

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The deep manga state is pushing the narrative that Araki hates drawing jojo and wants to quit and they are 100% correct

spark dagger
minor ore
spark dagger
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ah ok

hard meteor
minor ore
vocal gust
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Just don't release as frequent as he has been boom

minor ore
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Is that another way to say big ups

spark dagger
vocal gust
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why would we get a part 12

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I mean do you feel like if jojolion ended it would be the last jojo

minor ore
spark dagger
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rollback

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time between part 7 nd 8

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the like 3 generations within

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or 4

minor ore
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Very sadge :(

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Not wholesale chungus 100

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Joshu poggers??

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Joshu popchamp

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Pop

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He is a man of culture, take this gold kind stranger

nimble bough
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Thus spoke Rohan Kishibe best part

analog skiff
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Sadge is a twitch emote I think

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Anyways

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Neat bit of theming I just realised

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Probably already been said but

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Blue Hawaii looks like a headless chicken

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And the ability makes its victims run like a headless chicken towards the target

mental quartz
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galaxy brain araki

crisp vigil
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a lot of jojolion colored stands are blue? i like them but when i first was reading jojolion i was mixing up doobie wah blue hawaii thefuckisthis

fierce schooner
crisp vigil
analog skiff
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That's like a belt buckle

fierce schooner
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Also anyone else hate how most stand these days show up for like, one panel?

analog skiff
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True

crisp vigil
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me when space trucking

analog skiff
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I wish stands were more sentient honestly

fierce schooner
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It seems like most stand's designs don't really play into their abilities.

near cedar
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Me when Nut King Call for most of the manga is absent

fierce schooner
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Honest that's one reason I love WOU

near cedar
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WoU was cool

fierce schooner
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The stand probably had more screen time than the actual user

analog skiff
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Like last truly sentient stand I can remember is under world early on?

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WoU is tooru talking through it

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I guess milagro

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But that doesn't talk or anything

near cedar
analog skiff
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I guess C Moon actually if not counting solo stands like milagro

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Or was there one in part 7 I forgot?

near cedar
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I

analog skiff
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Hey ya

near cedar
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Ummm

fierce schooner
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I wonder if we will ever get a sentient stand buddy like FF

crisp vigil
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king nothing is somewhat sentient
although it still follows commands Sus

analog skiff
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Hey ya then

near cedar
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It's automatic

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Iirc

analog skiff
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Yeah but it doesn't talk or emote

crisp vigil
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sugar mountain should just be on a timer

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i love that stand

fierce schooner
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I think Stands are like domestic animals in that they have their own thoughts, but they perform best on their utility

analog skiff
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I always believed that early in a basic punch ghost's discovery it's sentient for a bit becoming non-sentient soon after

near cedar
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I wonder what'll happen on the last chapter

analog skiff
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With my main evidence being spice girl and under world

fierce schooner
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Maybe it's like a split personality thing?

analog skiff
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Well idk overall

lusty rampart
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its subconscious on first appearance

near cedar
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Spice Girl was Trish talking to herself I think

fierce schooner
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The stand is actually just a part of the user conscience, and they just slowly merge as they develop

analog skiff
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Under world was weird because it seemed to be talking separate from Donatello and acted pretty different

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Early on

fierce schooner
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Actually I always thought if White Snake stole a disc and inserted it into another person the personality of the stand's previous user rubs off on the person he inserted into when I was reading it.

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It isn't

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But that would have been interesting

crisp vigil
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i think it would be the other way around

fierce schooner
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Like imagine if Pucci had the balls to remove his own disc and put it into another person to escape

crisp vigil
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maybe if whitesnake gave a stand that didn’t fit, eventually that stand would mold into the user’s ideal version
but it would take time

analog skiff
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I just think it is how it ia

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How it is

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Wait

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How tf did f.f stand work

crisp vigil
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super intelligence and cooperation

analog skiff
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Like I wonder what the stand disc used on them originally did

fierce schooner
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She can increase the size of her boobs

kind owlBOT
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@fierce schooner, Your Stand Rank is now level 8 !

crisp vigil
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took over a human body

fierce schooner
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don't forget that

analog skiff
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No i mean like how did the stand disc make f.f get her abilities

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What type of stand would give a plankton colony that

shrewd reef
analog skiff
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If it stays the same stand

analog skiff
crisp vigil
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not really ability, it’s just how plankton work i assumed

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but they’re smart

near cedar
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And the plankton developed Foo Fighters

analog skiff
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Didn't he throw specifically a stand disc inside?

crisp vigil
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strength in numbers 💪

near cedar
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I am not 100% sure, it's been a while and I'm purposely forgetting most details for when I watch the anime

analog skiff
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Main villain stands give me headaches

near cedar
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Well not forgetting, more like storing in a mental vault

spark dagger
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memory and stand discs

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2 discs

analog skiff
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I wonder what the stand was then

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Considering that the stands seem to stay similar

near cedar
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Eyesight

analog skiff
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At least going by Gucci man and nothing suggesting the opposite

spark dagger
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like hot water

crisp vigil
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boiling water

near cedar
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The boiling water was a stand

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Ability

analog skiff
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Imagine being the boiling water stand person

spark dagger
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or killing yourself

analog skiff
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What a terrible life

crisp vigil
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i wonder how the original user used the boiling water

analog skiff
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I assume it was like they were also immune to the boiling water originally idk

spark dagger
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they bouled water in the toilet

analog skiff
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But then why would f.f get hurt

spark dagger
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hot shit

crisp vigil
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give people 3rd degree burns :kiranutt

spark dagger
near cedar
analog skiff
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yes

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Like Jolyne and star platinum

crisp vigil
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plankton die easier

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they’re baby sized

spark dagger
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but there is an exact and lower temperature

analog skiff
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Gonna stop talking now

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Getting a headache

spark dagger
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wait what

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why are you guys talking about so in jojolion i got confused in where i was

crisp vigil
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we can

spark dagger
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ight

analog skiff
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I was talking about sentient stands

spark dagger
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ye same we can talk about jojolion in so but we gon get bannned

analog skiff
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Except that's spoilers

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Talking about SO in jojolion isn't spoilers unless someone is a part skipping nonce

minor ore
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(And that's good)

worthy heron
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Someone send that copium pic pls

hard meteor
worthy heron
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My her

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Hero

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Get rid of this fucke slowmode jesus christ

sinful bramble
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How long is it

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Literally 2 seconds

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That’s so short that it doesn’t matter

fierce schooner
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All it took was 2 seconds for Jotaro to be killed by Pucci

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I think

worthy heron
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If it doesnt matter why is it there

sinful bramble
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For all the countless reasons that a chat may have slowmode?

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If someone wants to spam something against the rules/explicit evey second, then they can’t

fierce schooner
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Why have slow mode when everyone here is, figuratively speaking, slow

worthy heron
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So why is it only this chat that has a slowmode?

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If it was to stop spam every single channel would have it

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You could argue that when the final chapter is dropped or the couple days before a slowmode is probably better due to the influx of people that would be in this chat

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But spam clearly isnt their intent behind the slowmode

sinful bramble
crisp vigil
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there’s like 4 of you atm

sinful bramble
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Plenty of chats have slowmode in this server rn

crisp vigil
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parts 1-5, and 7 are free

worthy heron
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Oh wow like 7 of the 40 chanels have slow mode

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Some of them for reasonable spam stoppage probably like jojokes and memes and cute animals

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Others cause of bigger population like general spoilers, jojo overall, general no spoilers and hype coming with the anime for part 6

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If 2 seconds is as irrelevant as you said why isnt it in all the channels?

minor ore
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It's not that deep tbh, the staff just don't really care about removing slowmode lmao

worthy heron
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Other slowmodes are 5 and 10 seconds

minor ore
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They have more important stuff to do like uhhhhhhhhhhh

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uhhhhhhhh

crisp vigil
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like tell you to not spam h

worthy heron
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I know its not that deep but the way they replied to me was annoying so now im arguing 👍

magic sandal
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Hato can walk on fucking walls and kick barrage with heels

worthy heron
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She's a model she been prepared

magic sandal
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True

crisp vigil
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she’s gotta have that legwork

worthy heron
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Runway queen

crisp vigil
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non-goth abbachio

near cedar
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except when it kinda does

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And when it gets even crazier the slow mode gets longer

worthy heron
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No lie let me handle it fr

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I'll take care of it

sinful bramble
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It wouldn’t be a particularly easy job

worthy heron
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Maybe for you

steady mural
kind owlBOT
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@steady mural, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

white beacon
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It's because this is the only currently running part of jojo's manga, so a whole lot of discussion regularly happens here, and with many discussions also comes many heated talks, staff aren't always available so this helps to at least try and mitigate the mudslinging

sinful bramble
worthy heron
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Nah not ke

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Me

white beacon
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I'd honestly would loooooove(sarcastic) someone to be able to handle jjl when it is even just almost as at it's worst, considering they don't even listen to mods until someone has to get muted or something

worthy heron
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Lemme get the iron hammer I'll take care of this fr

near cedar
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That's an understatement

white beacon
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Not to be mean but you haven't even been in this server for like, a month

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You're severely underestimating this channel

worthy heron
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Lmaoo nah im just playing

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I'll see when the new chapter comes how bad it'll get lol

white beacon
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So just take it from us who have actual experience and a lot of time spent here because we actually care, don't put yourself up too much

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Downfall of many jjl readers being too high on their horse

worthy heron
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Lmaoooo

near cedar
worthy heron
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You'll see me in like 4 channels max man im not tryna associate with too many of these mfers ahaha

sick igloo
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Jojolion is the best part

mossy cloak
near cedar
celest nest
white beacon
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I didn't say anything about jjl

mossy cloak
sinful bramble
white beacon
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I'm talking about the readers of it

flint blaze
sick igloo
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The ending is gonna be important but even if the ending isn’t amazing I’m still gonna say jojolion is 10/10

mossy cloak
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Getting pursued

celest nest
sick igloo
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As long as the ending is decent and not like terrible

sick igloo
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Fr

mossy cloak
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was on chapter 70 3 days ago and on 109 yesterday

sick igloo
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Lol

mossy cloak
worthy heron
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Nothing is 10/10 bro

mossy cloak
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We'll see

flint blaze
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No

sick igloo
mossy cloak
near cedar
worthy heron
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You dont even know what that word means bro

near cedar
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Nothing is peak fiction*

sinful bramble
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10/10 doesn’t necessarily mean perfect, to some people it just means that they’d fully recommend something

mossy cloak
worthy heron
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You should

sick igloo
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What’s wrong with me saying jojolion is a 10/10?

flint blaze
worthy heron
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🤨🤨

flint blaze
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Round up

quasi geode
sick igloo
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Anyways who’s ur favorite character in jojo

mossy cloak
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Do we know each other

quasi geode
mossy cloak
flint blaze
mossy cloak
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Jotaro too yeah

quasi geode
sick igloo
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Imo Josuke 8

quasi geode
sinful bramble
mossy cloak
sick igloo
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WoU is so goated

quasi geode
sick igloo
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WoU is the best stand ever

mossy cloak
quasi geode
sick igloo
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Bruh jojolion is so nice

quasi geode
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Sad that it’s ending tho

sick igloo
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True

mossy cloak
sick igloo
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What

mossy cloak
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The stand

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Boingos stand

quasi geode
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Oh that one

kind owlBOT
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@quasi geode, Your Stand Rank is now level 4 !

near cedar
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Thoth is a bad stand

quasi geode
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Dio imo is one of the weaker Jojo villains

mossy cloak
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True

near cedar
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DIO/Dio is my favourite villain

flint blaze
mossy cloak
sick igloo
kind owlBOT
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@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 4 !

flint blaze
sick igloo
mossy cloak
sick igloo
mossy cloak
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Ohhh okay

near cedar
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DIO/Dio, Pucci, Valentine, Kars, Kira, Tooru = Diavolo

quasi geode
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Oh yeah forgot diavalo

worthy heron
flint blaze
sick igloo
worthy heron
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Kira that low is insane

flint blaze
worthy heron
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Word

sinful bramble
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Valentine=Pucci > Kira > DIO/Dio > Tooru > Kars > Diavolo

quasi geode
near cedar
sick igloo
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Imo Tooru and Funny Valentine is the best villains

fierce schooner
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So what does WOU's power have to do with Tooru's character thematically?

flint blaze
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  1. Kira
  2. Valentine
  3. Pucci
  4. Diavolo
  5. Dio
  6. Tooru
  7. Kars
flint blaze
sick igloo
sinful bramble
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Tooru first coming in 75% into the part doesn’t help

fierce schooner
mossy cloak
fierce schooner
quasi geode
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Kinda weird

sick igloo
near cedar
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He wants to rule it

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And what's wrong with wanting to rule the world

quasi geode
near cedar
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That's basically the same thing Tooru wants

flint blaze
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he wants peace of mind

quasi geode
flint blaze
fierce schooner
near cedar
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He wants to be above the rich by making them need his product so that rock humans can be above everyone

quasi geode
sick igloo
near cedar
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part 3

sick igloo
near cedar
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DIO's idiology is introduced in part 3

fierce schooner
near cedar
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The Heaven plan is about peace of mind

fierce schooner
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Because I have no idea what a world ruled by rock humans would be

white beacon
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part 6 just adds another layer, so to speak

quasi geode
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But Pucci feels like he is doing what Dio did but better

sick igloo
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Tooru wants to put rock humans on top of the societal structure and arguably some of the doctors want to use the plant for medicine

fierce schooner
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Like I guess if rock humans ruled the world more people would be assholes

sick igloo
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I like toorus character and I like how he opposed Gappy thematically

flint blaze
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not like Dio is gonna start ranting his ideology to people he views as food, hence why it's mainly expanded upon in p6

near cedar
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I don't give a damn about themes if i am not enjoying the rest of the stuff

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Same reason part 5's thematically ness does nothing for me

flint blaze
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however, it is introduced in p3 through the "peace of mind" speech

fierce schooner
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I mean Tooru's endgame felt really vague

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Everyone wants to rule the world, what makes him special

flint blaze
quasi geode
sick igloo
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The thing about Tooru I found amazing is that at first he was just a regular guy, and then slowly you start to realize he caused everything in every new chapter you see how he manipulated new people, first you see the head doctor with holly, then you see mamezukus dads funeral, then you see him with yasuho as a child, like slowly you start to see everything he created

flint blaze
near cedar
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Idk about the themes but i've found plenty of holes in part 5 fights

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So some of the fights aren't well written

quasi geode
sinful bramble
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I never liked the end of the White Album fight

mossy cloak
sinful bramble
near cedar
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I like the end of the White Album fight, tis neat

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I like most of the fight

sick igloo
# fierce schooner Everyone wants to rule the world, what makes him special

Well the reason why he’s doing it is because he was devoid of any mother figure as a child, it literally states that rock humans mothers abandon them at birth in chapter 99 and they only have a wasp to take care of them or soemthing which explains why he’s trying to reach out to the wasp at the end

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And also Tooru wants to be remembered by the world that was his whole point of his speech to caato in chapter 107

near cedar
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I also like how Gio is like, let's go in the water, he can't freeze all of it

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Starts freezing the water

near cedar
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Gio: OH FUCK THAT WAS A BAD IDEA

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I don't like the snowboard thing, it looks cool buuuut given previouly established powers Mista should die while trying to make it

flint blaze
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ghiaccio is who i think of when i remember that la squadra was supposed to be the best of the best, man was virtually unstoppable

near cedar
fierce schooner
near cedar
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Since Mista tears grass up, living grass, he should die, but he doesn't

sick igloo
fierce schooner
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!w tooru

mental ridgeBOT
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JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Tooru (透龍(とおる), Tōru) is the main antagonist of the eighth part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, JoJolion, as well as the seventh main antagonist of the series overall.

magic sandal
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I'm half way done with jojolion I'm on chapter 60

mossy cloak
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Oh fuck

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Don't scroll up please

sick igloo
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Also Tooru literally made Josuke lmao

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He expiremented on holly which prompted Josefumi and Kira to search for the fruit which ultimately ended up with them fusing and becoming Josuke

hazy plume
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Okay I changed my mind

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Josefumi si not only a badass.. he has a cool name.

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His name has grown on me now

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He still has a shit cut tho.

white beacon
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so it opens up the idea of arkai just making up any possible random scenario in the past that we have had no prior knowledge about at all, shoehorning tooru in it, and we'd be fine with that

fierce schooner
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Wonder Of U as the main villain >>>>>>>>>> Tooru as main villain

white beacon
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heck, araki didn't even utilize the yasuho hairclip rockbug idea into tooru being in yasuho's past

worthy heron
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Araki forgot about a loose emd 6 years later and made a note to give Tooru the credit

kind owlBOT
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@worthy heron, Your Stand Rank is now level 13 !

near cedar
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We should have been told something about Memezuku's father before

minor ore
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You're just jealous you don't have a pompadour fresh from a toaster

near cedar
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it's an afro

minor ore
flint blaze
# near cedar By which i mean the retconned damage reflection

didnt know what you were talking about but i looked back at the fight. Giorno accredits damage reflection as the creature trying to protect itself. He also says something about it "not being loyal to him yet" implying he can control when this ability is used. In the case with the tundra grass, grass has no will of its own so it should only be controlled by him. This also means it cannot protect itself

near cedar
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No right

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Why'd a tree reflect 3 Freeze then

worthy heron
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A tree might

flint blaze
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pretty sure trees have the will to protect themselves or at least make decisions, i dont think grass does

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at least tundra grass which is the type giorno made

near cedar
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what

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what is the logic of "this plant has a will but this one doesn't"

flint blaze
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trees are far more complex than grass

worthy heron
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Does it need to be conscious will to defend itself

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Plants do have a defense mechanism but i wouldnt call it a consious effort

flint blaze
near cedar
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Pretty sure he can't control a creature he just made

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Hence "this frog is not loyal to me yet"

dire furnace
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^

minor ore
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Doesn't grass like, have entire defense mechanisms when it realizes it's being cut

minor ore
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I'm pretty sure if trees are "conscious", grass should be too

flint blaze
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it just smells and that's lawn grass

flint blaze
near cedar
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so can a tree apparently

minor ore
flint blaze
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the difference between tundra grass and lawn grass?

white beacon
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tundra grass is more complex, because it can live in harsh environments

minor ore
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Yeah but, what's the difference above just physical characteristics? We're talking about the will a plant has when it realizes it's being "hurt" and I'm sure tundra grass has its own too.

flint blaze
near cedar
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Why would a plant that has a "will" of it's own be more loyal then a frog

flint blaze
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Do you believe the tree had a will?

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I'm not making the claim it had one, anymore

minor ore
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Also, does the damage reflection thing only somehow apply to plants and animals? Since parts of Giorno's body should be invincible if it applies to anything created by GE.

near cedar
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well it defended itself did it not

mossy cloak
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Bro what is this discussion fucking hell

flint blaze
near cedar
flint blaze
near cedar
flint blaze
near cedar
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If he could use this damage reflection strategically then he would, or else he's an idiot for not even trying to strategically use one of his most powerful abilities

near cedar
flint blaze
brave parcel
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Even if it was not forgotten its is just totally stupid how doesn't take advantage of such a powerful ability

flint blaze
near cedar
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So you are saying Gio is just stupid and doesn't ever use that ability

flint blaze
worthy heron
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Giorno is a himbo 🔥🔥

flint blaze
near cedar
worthy heron
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Ehh bot himbo huh

near cedar
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When Cioccolata was gonna punch him

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Instead of punching him first

flint blaze
near cedar
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have an animal ready

worthy heron
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If i had that ability id be suited up in plant armor bro

near cedar
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And block his punch with a frog

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or some shit

brave parcel
minor ore
flint blaze
near cedar
flint blaze
near cedar
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he didn't

flint blaze
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he did

minor ore
brave parcel
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what fight

near cedar
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Leaky Eye Luca isn't a fight

flint blaze
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it was a fight, short one though

near cedar
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K lemme rephrase what M said then

brave parcel
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youre joking right holy shit

near cedar
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Write more fights where it's used

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Not just 1 and done

junior coral
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What’s happening

brave parcel
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mf was not even a stand user

junior coral
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Leaky Eye Luca was an encounter rather than a fight

near cedar
flint blaze
near cedar
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Yes i said Green Giorno on purpose

junior coral
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Oh yeah watch Hamon Beat

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He explained it in his debunking araki forgot video

near cedar
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No

minor ore
# flint blaze it was a fight, short one though

Not really. The basic definition of a fight is "take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or weapons". Luca just attacked him once, Giorno didn't have any reason to fight back nor did either of them struggle throughout those... 2 minutes?

brave parcel
junior coral
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I ain’t remember what he said so

near cedar
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Did he explain why Mista is still alive tho

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Cuz Mista killed Gio's tundra grass

junior coral
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“Still” Alive?

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Grass can’t defend itself

near cedar
junior coral
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Hm true

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Araki forgot then ion know 🤷‍♂️

near cedar
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I'd more assume Araki got rid of it cuz he couldn't think of another fight to use it in or just retconned it cuz he thought it was too stronk

brave parcel
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He literally trew that ability of gio in the trash, most araki forgots are just bullshit but this one is true, it was giorno strongest ability and he just doesn't take advantage of it

brave parcel
near cedar
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I don't think he forgot

flint blaze
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giorno has 4 fights. Black sabbath where it wouldnt work, ciocolatta where he purposefully wanted to torture that guy, diavolo where it'd feel cheap and ruin requiem, babyface where he had no chance to use it

near cedar
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He is involved in plenty of fights

flint blaze
worthy heron
#

Black sabbath is such a good song

brave parcel
#

It is

worthy heron
#

st/st/st is black sabbaths best trio

near cedar
#

Black Sabbath is a good band

flint blaze
worthy heron
#

Having a self titles combo of song album band name is sick

near cedar
#

White Album, Man in the Mirror

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Clash and Talking Head to an extent

worthy heron
#

Ye Black Sabbath is a great band one of the best

near cedar
#

Could have tossed an animal to Bruno when Bruno went to fight Secco

flint blaze
flint blaze
near cedar
#

While White Album was away and distracted by Mista i'd say he was far enough to make something

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Like an animal that lives in the cold

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Idk a fuckin pengu

hazy plume
#

Holy shit Josuke really went full force

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Mf this is how Jotaro should be punching his enemies, smh.

hard meteor
#

goatsuke

mossy cloak
minor ore
#

Tbh, the anime adaptation should've outright just tried to find a way to replace the two damage reflection scenes with something. I understand that it's difficult, but considering that this ability is never paid attention to again, plus the fact that Diavolo steps on one of the scorpions when fighting GER, is just unnecessary drama

mossy cloak
hazy plume
minor ore
#

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about lol

mossy cloak
#

Oh

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Oh now I get what you were saying my bad

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I agree with you

minor ore
#

Tfw can't use joshuthumb emote anymore

hard meteor
#

vitamin c was peak easily the best arc

minor ore
near cedar
hazy plume
mossy cloak
#

yeah exactly why didn't he just read part 8 instead of waiting for the anime smh my head

hazy plume
#

Goddamnit anime only’s

near cedar
#

Lmao

brave parcel
minor ore
#

What happened in 100

hard meteor
#

rai got bodied

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and go beyond was introduced

minor ore
#

best stand ability less goo

vagrant elbow
mossy cloak
minor ore
kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Stand Rank is now level 7 !

vagrant elbow
nova kite
#

which scanlations are better? hi wa mata noboru or dog park

dire furnace
sick igloo
hard meteor
#

yah

sick igloo
#

Tooru is peak antagonist

silk pumice
#

W

junior coral
#

Cap

silk pumice
hard meteor
#

i aint reading that lmao

junior coral
#

Oh good lord

nova kite
#

there's no dog park scans on mangadex for a good amount of the chapters, and some chapters are missing english translations entirely

silk pumice
junior coral
#

Paragraphs of headcanons

nova kite
#

is there a better source for jojolion scans

sick igloo
silk pumice
nova kite
silk pumice
junior coral
#

Black and white chapters go up to 109

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You can’t find them ??

silk pumice
#

Go on mangadex

junior coral
#

Dogpark doesn’t upload to mangadex I don’t think, at least not now

sick igloo
near cedar
hard meteor
#

same

silk pumice
junior coral
#

No one is reading that

minor ore
nova kite
near cedar
#

Not only is Tooru not the best villain I've ever seen

junior coral
#

HiWa whatever does them then if Dogpark doesn’t

near cedar
#

He's not even the best in JoJo

sick igloo
nova kite
#

on mangadex some chapters are missing english translations or chapters entirely

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in BW

junior coral
#

The biggest L is that you need to link a Google doc to us to prove he’s a competent villain

minor ore
#

🥱

sick igloo
#

W

silk pumice
#

It's so long lmao

junior coral
#

Capping out your ass

sick igloo
#

Exactly

minor ore
#

Haters....... keep pinging..... im bouta cum........

sick igloo
hard meteor
#

mf trying to use a google doc as proof

silk pumice
silk pumice
junior coral
sick igloo
minor ore
#

Anyway

junior coral
#

Like I said no one wants to read it

junior coral
#

I’m not reading fanfiction

silk pumice
#

POV: me and @sick igloo soloinh

nova kite
#

is there a better source?

hard meteor
near cedar
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If i need to read a character analysis to understand/like a character, instead of getting it from the story, that's a bad character

sick igloo
dire furnace
#

it shouldn't take someone trying to explain the character to you with mostly headcanon for a character to become enjoyable

dire furnace
#

Tooru is mid

junior coral
#

Erik spittin

sick igloo
dire furnace
#

i mean headcanon

near cedar
#

You can't win when Green Giorno and i agree

sick igloo
#

Everything is there, there’s literally proof for everything

near cedar
silk pumice
#

Tooru perfectly describes the negative aspects of humanity

junior coral
#

Green Giorno and Erik combo means that you are wrong so

dire furnace
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like people using some other guys motivation but because "Tooru is the boss" its his too

sick igloo
#

Toorus motivations are literally all there but y’all will ignore it

dire furnace
#

whats his motivation

minor ore
#

Anyway, Joshu amirite

junior coral
#

Tooru discourse worse than Joshu discourse now

sick igloo
#

@silk pumice look at these bozos lmao

silk pumice
kind owlBOT
#

@silk pumice, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

hard meteor
sick igloo
junior coral
#

JoJo fans with half a brain explaining why the feller with a quarter the screen time as other villains is peak writing

silk pumice
#

Fine lemme get a snippet of the doc

sick igloo
dire furnace
#

i shouldn't need to read a doc , tell me what Toorus motivations are

minor ore
#

JoJolion channel when

junior coral
#

No one wants to read it you incels oh my god 😭😭

sick igloo
junior coral
#

Motherfuckers using fanfiction to prove their point 😭

junior coral
silk pumice
#

Josuke, a man who was born without memories, who cared for Yasuho, and tried to discover his own identity. A man whose bond with his mother was so strong it transcended across lifetimes. The strength of that powered his journey and gave him motivation to continue to create miracles that could overcome the curses placed in the town of Morioh. A man who is truthful and never deceits anyone. A man who thinks no matter what memories he might have, the bond created will “go beyond” his memories. Tooru, a man who died holding on to his last memory, who manipulated Yasuho, and stole the identity of another, whose bond with his mother was never established, so he could never have any true feeling of love, had calamities like “curses” plague morioh. A man who is a trickster and deceived the world. A man who values memories and believes that they are the only thing that holds importance and ultimately completes a person. And Josuke, a man that was trying to be compassionate to others, just ultimately led to his own greed while Tooru, who was greedy, was about to lead a new future for Rock Humans. Both born out of the ground, shaped by the world around them in 2 separate ways.

junior coral
#

Too long didn’t read

silk pumice
#

That's the whole point

sick igloo
#

Bro if u ain’t gonna read it don’t call it fake

hard meteor
junior coral
#

I’m not interested in fanfiction

sick igloo
#

None of this is remotely a stretch

junior coral
#

Use your words buddy

silk pumice
#

Tooru is an Ubermensch

near cedar
silk pumice
#

There

near cedar
#

Etc

#

Tooru just appeared

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Did stuff, killed people

silk pumice
#

@near cedar he was foreshadowed multiple times lol

near cedar
#

died

dire furnace
junior coral
near cedar
sinful bramble
silk pumice
near cedar
junior coral
sick igloo
hard meteor
dire furnace
#

Tooru was Diavolo done worse

junior coral
junior coral
sick igloo
junior coral
#

No it wasn’t lol

#

Big lies

hard meteor
#

no,it really wasnt

silk pumice
#

Lemme OVERSIMPLIFY

sick igloo
mossy cloak
#

Tooru killed Johnny josta

hard meteor
#

nah

dire furnace
hard meteor
#

leaf stand killed him

near cedar
silk pumice
#

Tooru is an Ubermensch, What is an Ubermensch? The Übermensch represents a shift from otherworldly Christian values and manifests the grounded human ideal. The Übermensch try to make this world better by creating their own values than what people abide by the Judeo-Christian moral value. And that is what exactly what Tooru does, it is like he is doing something bad right now to benefit the future of Rock Humans, his moral value is that he must do everything to topple society and let rock humans prosper

sick igloo
junior coral
#

Not reading that

silk pumice
sick igloo
#

Y’all mfs are so dumb to the point where you won’t read something that explains his character and then call him bad

kind owlBOT
#

@sick igloo, Your Stand Rank is now level 5 !

near cedar
#

Did

silk pumice
#

@sick igloo W I'm getting brain dmg

mossy cloak
sinful bramble
dire furnace
silk pumice
sick igloo
near cedar
#

Did you just try to prove Tooru is a good character with Friedrich Nietzsche bs

minor ore
#

some people are definitely failing english here

#

Tooru peak villain but fr this is getting boring

dire furnace
hard meteor
#

what

dire furnace
#

see what i was sayin bout headcanon ?

near cedar
dire furnace
sick igloo
minor ore
#

"Sorry honey, not now, I have a JoJolion channel debate to win."

near cedar
#

Valentine is talking about sending bad luck away from him into other places

sick igloo
dire furnace
#

why are you using an explanation of Love Train as a calamity foreshadow 💀💀

near cedar
#

I doubt Araki planned Tooru in SBR, he doesn't think that far ahead lol

mossy cloak
#

Tooru has the holy corpse (2021)

near cedar
#

He brings bad luck to them

hard meteor
#

using someone elses ability to somehow prove another persons ability mattered in that time period lmao

minor ore
#

its not a matter of planning ahead its a matter of connecting future events to past events

dire furnace
#

Tooru stans are a sad breed fr

junior coral
#

Really

dire furnace
#

im aware

silk pumice
sick igloo
#

You guys are actually mentally ill bro

#

L

dire furnace
#

but that doesn't connect the flow of calamity to whatever Valentine was doing

sinful bramble
silk pumice
#

L

sick igloo
#

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

silk pumice
#

LLLLLLLLLLLL

dire furnace
#

bad luck existing doesn't make them related

mossy cloak
#

This is actually sad

near cedar
#

Stop spamming

sinful bramble
#

Shut

near cedar
#

Oh fuck trying to tell em lmao

mossy cloak
#

Can you shut the fuck u

minor ore
#

this has gone out of hand

hard meteor
#

what jjl cope does to a mf

dire furnace
#

Toorus entire character explained in a simple post

minor ore
#

honestly i don't give a shit abt character if i enjoy it i like it and i do enjoy wonder of u as a stand

junior coral
#

Tooru fanfiction I was sent a few weeks ago

dire furnace
#

this shits funny tho 💀

kind owlBOT
#

@dire furnace, Your Stand Rank is now level 13 !

hard meteor
near cedar
#

they left

dire furnace
junior coral
#

You should read some of it it’s the worst shit I’ve ever heard

mossy cloak
minor ore
#

🥱

junior coral
#

It doesn’t make sense

flint blaze
dire furnace
# flint blaze Why

if you have to grasp at straws to add depth to something its meaningless , you can't force a motive.

flint blaze
#

Ah, misinterpreted what you meant

dire furnace
#

its all good

cunning vapor
#

that mf spittin

#

tooru > all villains

minor ore
#

No more

#

Fuck JoJo villains they dont exist anymore

heavy ledge
#

tooru slander again

#

smh this chat

frail marsh
#

who is the jojolion antagonist

cunning vapor
#

Goatru

spark axle
#

araki

cunning vapor
#

steel ball run villain is

#

Funny midlentine

light acorn
#

Best villain

light acorn
frail marsh
#

ok

#

whats his stand

light acorn
#

Wonder of u

frail marsh
#

o right

#

ye ik

#

what it does?

heavy ledge
light acorn
#

Or somehow makes lame stuff dangerous? I guess

#

Like rain

#

Basically you vs the universe

dire furnace
light acorn
frail marsh
junior coral
#

Tamaki Damo

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Is JoJolion’s main villain

hard meteor
#

based and true

eternal meteor
# frail marsh what it does?

if you try to pursue or attack Tooru, then anything bad that can happen will. example: you think about attacking Tooru so a nearby biker crashes into you and you break your arm

flint blaze
#

wonder of u solos

brave parcel
frail marsh
#

i thought sbr antagonist is diego

hard meteor
#

no

light acorn
light acorn
frail marsh
light acorn
#

Hato is irrelevant

light acorn
frail marsh
#

ok

hard meteor
frail marsh
#

is diego a minor antagonist then

light acorn
#

Yeah

frail marsh
#

like the hitman team

light acorn
frail marsh
light acorn
frail marsh
#

ye

kind owlBOT
#

@frail marsh, Your Stand Rank is now level 2 !

frail marsh
#

wait

#

i thought la squadra was the bodyguard team

junior coral
#

Awesome Space Trucking sculpture

#

They used my full body edit as a reference! So cool!

frail marsh
#

no that was MY full body edit

frail marsh
#

@flint blaze what is ur pfp

#

is it initial d

flint blaze
#

no

#

it's an inverted pic of some manhwa

light acorn
#

You sure we read/watches the same anime?

frail marsh
#

waaait

#

hitman team = risotto's team
bodyguard team = bucciarati's team

light acorn
#

Yes

frail marsh
#

yes

#

so what did i say wrong

hard meteor
#

you said the hitman team was the bodyguard team

cunning vapor
#

Diego a primary antagonist not the main

frail marsh
#

but I thought la squadra was the italian name for brunos team

hard meteor
#

nah

frail marsh
#

then what is it?

cunning vapor
#

bucciarati tema

#

team

frail marsh
dire furnace
#

Bucci Gang

frail marsh
#

but on Team Bucciarati (ブチャラティチーム Bucharati Chīmu), also called Squadra Guardie del corpo (護衛チーム Goei Chīmu, lit. "Escort Team" or "Bodyguard Team"),

light acorn
#

La squadra wants to kill bosu and bucci gang wants to protect bossu(at first)

minor ore
#

They don't want to protect Diavolo tho

#

They just have a mission to fulfill, which is bringing Trish to the boss. I doubt they would really care if he was killed right there and then before they even got to him.

#

With Abbacchio, he outright says that he only cares about following Bruno's orders.

#

tooru my beloved

#

thats a shroom

#

Hundreds seethe over this man

near cedar
minor ore
#

I just realized that tsurigi is a pretty clear trans metaphor

#

Shut up

#

Forced to live as the opposite gender he really is

minor ore
#

Why

#

You're being cringe

minor ore
#

I love how we call Tsrugi a baby even tho he’s 10 years old

minor ore
#

He was forced to live as a girl despite being a guy

gritty dawn
#

SHUT THE FUCK UP

minor ore
#

Wait are you serious-

#

You’re saying this about jojo-

#

You are aware what show this is right-

#

And that araki is an open supporter of the lgbt community?

#

JoJo isn't a LGBT manga. Just because there are a few gay characters

#

Like 2 right

quasi oak
minor ore
#

It isn't

gritty dawn
#

wtf are trans metaphors

quasi oak
#

Idk

minor ore
#

A metaphor of a trans character despite them not being trans- aka a more subtle way of telling a trans story

#

Guys Jobin is a trans metaphor

#

He isn’t

#

Araki subtlety added his trans subplot during the Summer Vacation arc

minor ore
quasi oak
minor ore
#

Ngl I can’t tell if you guys are homophobic or I just came up with a shitty Theory

#

._.

#

Who cares

#

Jojorion

#

I care

#

Oh

#

:/

#

Damn sucks to suck then sorry

minor ore
heavy ledge
minor ore
#

Oh shit

#

You right

vocal gust
#

helo it is I Jojodoss welcom to jojo's top 10 totally not heterosexual characters

minor ore
#

Oh wait a minute

#

me realizing why I related to josuke ._.

heavy ledge
#

dont ask these ppl about it they cant relate

minor ore
#

Aight

#

True that broski

heavy ledge
#

also idk why kq-another one bites the dust is still unbanned since they were absolutely rude in every argument ive seen of them and now they are also acting transphobic

#

while my dude liam is still in jail

minor ore
#

😔

#

I will quote George Orwell

#

Srs tho they should be banned

near cedar
vocal gust
minor ore
#

??????

#

How am I Horny rn

heavy ledge
#

yea idk how to phrase it, they havent been warned?

minor ore
#

They haven’t been warned but should be

near cedar
#

oh don't worry imma ask the ones with more power then I to deal with this

vocal gust
#

Which couple in jojo is the gayest

minor ore
#

Hmmm

#

We counting ships, or only canon

vocal gust
#

Is it Joseph and Avdol

#

I can not think of any

minor ore
#

Giorno and mista

rain drum
heavy ledge
#

Generally there are no ship talks here because then its another endless argument

vocal gust
#

I feeel like that could be real but idk if araki was ever explicit in anything

kind owlBOT
#

@vocal gust, Your Stand Rank is now level 9 !

vocal gust
#

Only sex scene I can think of rn is Poor Tom someone help

worthy heron
#

kira photos part 8?

heavy ledge
#

I wish those were dr kiras pics

rain drum
#

c'mon gaius

minor ore
minor ore
#

And the two blokes who fucked above the rock cuck

vocal gust
vocal gust
minor ore
#

Gracias

#

I was crossing my fingers for a Dolomite appearance later down the line

#

Since he was the only rock man they spared

flint blaze
sinful bramble
#

So we won’t see him unless it’s a flashback

near cedar
#

They should have killed him

vocal gust
near cedar
#

No

#

Idc what somebody has been trough, killing innocent people is not good

#

And Dolomite got many of em killed

#

Including kids

minor ore
#

Didn’t Dolomite give them information though? Josuke was willing to spare Urban Gorilla for info but Rai told him no

near cedar
#

Death to Dolomite

minor ore
vocal gust
# near cedar Death to Dolomite

The whole stand killing people is why he should not be free, like yeah controlling a baby is no chill, but the thing is he knew the least about what was going on with his fellow species. He was fucked over until he had nothing left, not even arms or legs, jobin was the one who told him to do it so if anything he takes more of the blame, thats how it works

#

right? lmao

near cedar
#

Jobin told him get rid of Josuke
Dolomite asked you don't have an issue with me killing him or collateral damage right?

sinful bramble
#

They both deserve blame

near cedar
#

Meaning he's willing to commit collateral damage

minor ore
#

I would commit collateral damage for a bucket of chicken fuck y’all sayin

vocal gust
# near cedar Meaning he's willing to commit collateral damage

Sure yeah, gotta say though not the worst of the rock humans. If I remember correctly he knew that the only reason he was still alive was because he knew nothing about the operation, meaning there's a chance that he could have been considering his own life in danger

#

He also cooperated with Jousuke and yasuho just give him life in prison

#

Stone ocean but with Dolomite part 9 confirmed

minor ore
#

Dolofortnite

vocal gust
#

Dolomite
Dolite
Doit
Dio

minor ore
# minor ore

I love the fact that literally every fucking panel with Rai's face visible in it has him with the "did I ask tho" expression 24/7

#

Even when he's just a bunch of apple peels

flint blaze
#

Bruh

hard meteor
minor ore
#

how can i laugh at this there's no red circle

sinful bramble
minor ore
#

🤝

haughty dirge
#

Gappy best jojo

#

I probably spelt it wrong

sinful bramble
#

You didn’t

light swift
minor ore
#

||i know which part I'm eating first||

#

||Obviously the eyes||

dense tundra
#

We allowed to send pics from the manga

hard meteor
#

yes

dense tundra
#

I understand that they are beyond logic but can someone go a little more in depth

#

Like do they still exist?

kind owlBOT
#

@dense tundra, Your Stand Rank is now level 1 !

dense tundra
#

And also is it the spin or explosion doing the damage

minor ore