jojolion

[dire furnace]

Josuke 8 is like 50% Jotaro 25% Kira and 25% Josuke 4

100% better Josuke

[minor ore]

So two Holys confirmed?

Double trouble for the milf lovers out there

[minor ore]

Gappy doesn’t really act like Jotaro

He’s much quirkier

[dire furnace]

i mean biologically

[minor ore]

Is he biologically Jotaro?

[dire furnace]

kinda

[minor ore]

He’s like, 25% Holy

[dire furnace]

and 25% Sadafumi

[minor ore]

Yoshikage Kira and Kei are biologically both Jotaro (I guess)

5% actually holy

Because of Johnny

[dire furnace]

Kyo is also AU Okuyasu

[uneven tendon]

But Johnny was the great great grandpa

[minor ore]

I don’t think it’s like that

[uneven tendon]

Actually, Kei's name is a reference to Keicho

[minor ore]

Considering Yasuho isn’t much like Koichi

[hard meteor]

Nijimura is a fake name

[dire furnace]

Saint Johnny next chapter

[uneven tendon]

And it follows the tradition of Nijimuras having big numbers in their names

[dire furnace]

ik

[uneven tendon]

Apparently Kei means 10 quadrillion

And the other Nijimuras also had a similar thing going on with big numbers as their names

[minor ore]

What if she’s really Njiimura dad

And she’s gonna turn into a horrific monster

[dire furnace]

she turned into a monster already

a spooky ghost 😱😱😱

[hearty ivy]

What if ||Josefumi and Joshu took the Rokaka||

[minor ore]

Huh

Josefumi is dead

And has been for the whole story

[uneven tendon]

Well, Josefumi isn't exactly dead

But he was reborn

[hard meteor]

What if Joshu turned into Jesus at the end

[uneven tendon]

Joshus

[brittle lodge]

what is

[minor ore]

Kira cells hit different and gave him amnesia

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

Then I suddenly wouldn't want a part 9 anymore

[hard meteor]

Good

[uneven tendon]

You shouldn't want one anyways

[hard meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[uneven tendon]

Best ending in all of Jojo

[minor ore]

What if I don't, but I just think it will happen

[uneven tendon]

Then keep being delusional

We don't need to keep hearing about it

[minor ore]

Cringe

[dire furnace]

what if

[minor ore]

What's wrong with wanting a part 9 anyways smh

[dire furnace]

Goku turned evil part 19

[dire furnace]

Araki is old

[minor ore]

So?

[dire furnace]

let him retire

[minor ore]

I'll gladly let him, but that doesn't stop me from wanting another part

[uneven tendon]

He shouldn't work more than he should just because a bunch of random people want something that isn't needed

[minor ore]

No one's stopping him lol

Tooru is just such a shitty villain to end off the entire series with

[uneven tendon]

Nah

Tooru is pog

[minor ore]

He’s ok, but he’s not the series finale villain

[dire furnace]

SPITTIN

BANGER

NOTHIN BUT FACTS

[minor ore]

Thanks for taking over as the bad guy of this chat

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 11 !

[minor ore]

You also seem like a joshuphobe

[olive bobcat]

people hate tooru? wack
hes cool

[uneven tendon]

Too many nontruthers

[minor ore]

I’m not afraid of Joshu, I hate him

[dire furnace]

Flashback man main villain

[minor ore]

I don’t hate Tooru, you just can’t end the series with him

[near cedar]

could be worse

[minor ore]

K

[minor ore]

I apologise for slandering Magenta before

[near cedar]

He's better then Diavolo at least

[minor ore]

Stone Ocean was the best ending for JoJo

@minor ore

Even if SBR was awesome

[dire furnace]

Pucci was a banger MV

[minor ore]

Doww doww doww bowww, boww bowww babababa

[hearty ivy]

I know, but if he did it pre Josuke

[olive bobcat]

SBR was mid

[dire furnace]

????

[minor ore]

Goddddaayyumm I didn't know you had this level of faxness within you

[minor ore]

But joshu doesn't know josefumi

[olive bobcat]

its the truth

[minor ore]

At least he didn't at the time

[dire furnace]

Stone Ocean pre Irene best ending

everyone dies

[minor ore]

Lol

[dire furnace]

thanks for watching

[hard meteor]

[minor ore]

I SEE TREES OF GREEN

[minor ore]

Don't you chat shit about my girl Irene

RED ROSES TOO

I SEE THEM BLUE

[hard meteor]

joshu haters me sick

[dire furnace]

AND I THINK TO MYSELF

[hearty ivy]

True

[minor ore]

WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD

[uneven tendon]

They went to the same college, perhaps they encountered each other on one occasion?

[hearty ivy]

Just imagine their personality if they merged

[uneven tendon]

Maybe Josefumi also met Donny Domino?

[dire furnace]

imagine

[minor ore]

What kind of fucking name is Donny Domino

[dire furnace]

Jooru

[minor ore]

Who names their kid that

[uneven tendon]

You forgot about the saint of part 8?

[dire furnace]

DODOS BIZARRE ADVENTURE

[hard meteor]

Apparently joshu knew who Kira was in chapter 101 but nothing on josefumi

[minor ore]

Foo Fighters I understand

Since it’s a Plankton

[uneven tendon]

Too many people forgot about him

[minor ore]

Let’s name our child, Donald Domino

[minor ore]

Donatello Domino

Holy Pizza of Morioh my ass

[hard meteor]

Donny domino peak

[dire furnace]

most underappreciated character next to Haruno Higashikata

[uneven tendon]

Exactly

[minor ore]

Forgot Araki’s fetish for italy which would definitely be included in the fanfic

“Voiced by Michael Cera”

[dire furnace]

i wish someone loved me like Araki loves Italy

[minor ore]

imagine that

“Donny Domino has the ability to ejaculate flaming hot pizza sauce, this attack has been shown to be capable of melting through flesh and bone.”

[uneven tendon]

Perhaps sometime later?

[minor ore]

https://youtu.be/_wcxbkJXZYc

I can only think of this

“Wally Brando”

[dire furnace]

i would but you like Tooru 😴😴

[minor ore]

it would be nice if it was wally from the dc universe so that he could have made in heaven

Is that Donny or one of his children

[minor ore]

That is Donny getting high

[minor ore]

That’s a grasshopper you fucking cunt

[true ore]

i think it might be Katydid

[minor ore]

I would eat a dolphin if it was legal

No

Sometimes I shit myself just for warmth

[minor ore]

Pretty pog ngl

• Joshu Higashikata

[minor ore]

😳

Good

FALL.

nice

i have something more cursed @minor ore

you won't beat me

Try me

Doesn’t shit in my cereal

Deadly Queen has no weaknesses...

ew

[near cedar]

Stop with the memes and random images

[minor ore]

Calm down, “Erik’s Son”

i have cursed r63

What a lifetime of being a discord mod does a mafucker

ye

[minor ore]

they can't rlly chill

Cops aren’t this anal

Scarface does not take this much cocaine

Carlito is not this mexican

Mainly due to the fact that Carlito wasn’t mexican

Understandable

[sage crag]

no

[minor ore]

yes

[heavy ledge]

Wake me up when amongus memes are funny

[minor ore]

youll be sleeping forever

[minor ore]

They're not, but the characters in the image look particularly funny in this one imo lol

[heavy ledge]

X doubt

But what it matters is to have fun objectively after all

[sage crag]

they're cool :/

[heavy ledge]

Does that sentence even make sense

[sage crag]

but repetitive

[sage crag]

what

[heavy ledge]

What it matters is that u have fun with it

[brittle lodge]

i guess we'll never wake you up then

[minor ore]

Holly is such a better character in jojolion

[hard meteor]

[minor ore]

She’s super wacky which I love

And also actually acts like a joestar

[uneven tendon]

?

[minor ore]

Wacky

acts like a joestar?

tf u mean

Well compare her in part 3 and part 8. She’s much more joestar like in part 8

[primal dagger]

How does one be more "Joestar-like"?

[minor ore]

Well, the way she writes down all the stuff she needs to remember for one

What does that have to do with being a Joestar

Idk it just seems joestar like

You're just making stuff up

lmao

[hard meteor]

TFW writing stuff down makes you a joestar

[minor ore]

bro i skipped an entire semester of school

kono joster da!!<L@E

[molten crane]

I made a video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs3hoWBzcUY

[crisp vigil]

i’ve never noticed that you were that channel

man am i stupid

good content though

[sinful bramble]

yes

[crisp vigil]

dw

[molten crane]

Lmao

Yes I Jojodoss run the YouTube channel called Jojodoss

[minor ore]

yo is that the popular jojotuber jojodojodoxx????

[crisp vigil]

no

couldn’t be

[atomic abyss]

as someone who knows nothing about JJL

soft and wet looks cool

later

[molten crane]

Yeah

[sinful bramble]

It looks cool because it is

[minor ore]

Aye

Its the birthday of the legend

[sinful bramble]

We know

[minor ore]

Why is everyone constantly licking eachother in Jojolion

Bruno licked Giorno, but he was supposed to be a creepy psycho in his first appearance

[heavy ledge]

Why not

[minor ore]

Everyone’s gay for Josuke

[mossy sinew]

This implies that Kei is a man lol

[minor ore]

Josuke is two dudes

He’s gay for himself

[mossy sinew]

Josuke is constantly tongue kissing himself because his tongue is made up out of two guy's tongues

[minor ore]

He must have a dreadful lisp

Huge tooth gap and two tongues

[heavy ledge]

Who wouldnt be gay for josuke tho

I woke up with the horny and it looks like its staying

[minor ore]

If DP don’t do Josuke’s lipstick

We riot

It definitely is lipstick

He has it in every panel

[uneven tendon]

Nah, I will welcome this change

[minor ore]

Him not having lipstick?

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[minor ore]

Why

Lol that would be horrible

As well as tooru or joshu not having it

And also eye shadow

[uneven tendon]

It would be horrible for him to not have it?

[minor ore]

Yes

[brittle lodge]

yes

[uneven tendon]

[minor ore]

What if we 😳 performed equivalent exchange

[last flint]

What yall fav bands mine are probably ac/dc or kiss

Or metallica

[hard meteor]

based metallica/acdc enjoyer

[last flint]

Wdym

Based

[hard meteor]

based just means you said something good

[last flint]

Oh ok

I like also rhcp

Well my playlist just says the person i am (aka a metal/rock fan ig)

[bright cape]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[last flint]

Ill check it out lop

Later*

[bright cape]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[last flint]

Oki

[brittle lodge]

Iron Maiden slaps

[minor ore]

Try Black Sabbath

[minor ore]

Some of my favs are Led Zeppelin, AC/DC and Queen

[last flint]

I dont like it as much but im trying to like it

[brittle lodge]

Sabbath also slaps

Heaven and Hell & Electric Funeral are my favorites by them

[minor ore]

yo nice

for me its Black Sabbath (the song) and Electric Funeral

[brittle lodge]

nice

based Electric Funeral enjoyer

[minor ore]

who else is good

Dio is good

[brittle lodge]

Dio is amazing

[minor ore]

yeah

really just

the best

[brittle lodge]

Rainbow in the Dark, Egypt, We Rock, and Wild One are my favorites

[minor ore]

good ones

Motorhead is also nice

[brittle lodge]

i only ace of spades

*know

but lemmy was pogg

[minor ore]

yeah

[brittle lodge]

he was the bassist for Hawkwind for a bit
which is also pretty poggers

[west stump]

Jomjolion :)

[minor ore]

didnt hawkwind have like

at one point hawkwind had 32 members

[minor ore]

:))

[brittle lodge]

lmao

[west stump]

Yall excited for the new chapter

[minor ore]

yea

[sinful bramble]

Yes

[minor ore]

less than 2 weeks

[west stump]

in 11 days

[sinful bramble]

Can’t believe it’s next week already

[west stump]

am i allowed to talk about jojolion spoilers here?

[sinful bramble]

Yes

[west stump]

||Cant wait to see what the result of tooru and the little rat boy colliding||

[minor ore]

you'll have to spoiler tag any new new stuff from the chapter in 11 days but you can talk about anything you want rn

[west stump]

oh

[minor ore]

naw i said in 11 days!

[west stump]

Oh lol

i thought u meant the most recent

[minor ore]

nah nah

but yeah idk

something will go wrong

[sinful bramble]

I joined this server like 2 months ago, but I still don’t know, how long do we need to spoiler tag things from new chapters?

[west stump]

cant wait to see him die

[sinful bramble]

A day?

[west stump]

maybe

[minor ore]

tooru will probably not die from this if araki wants to make josuke see tooru again

[digital cargo]

whats soft and wet

you know what i mean

[brittle lodge]

bruh

[tame plover]

A fire song from Prince

[brittle lodge]

yes

[digital cargo]

thats what am talking about

[crisp vigil]

to keep the jojo name around daiya should've nicknamed josuke "jojo"

[barren bough]

a banger song from the definitive best musician

[molten crane]

Gonna be karera

[crisp vigil]

that would be nice too

[kind owl]

@crisp vigil, Your Hamon Rank is now level 15 !

[dire furnace]

deez nuts

[digital cargo]

thats what am talking about

[minor ore]

Fuck Daiya

[pure charm]

Fuck daiya

[uneven tendon]

Fuck Daiya

[hard meteor]

Fuck Daiya

[mossy sinew]

Duck Faiya

[minor ore]

Is this what you have to resort to

Can't handle opposing opinions

[prisma oxide]

Fuck daiya

[true ore]

Fuck Daiya

[drowsy hill]

You guys wanna fuck Daiya? 🤢

[hard meteor]

Fuck Daiya

Not like that lol

[prisma oxide]

I simp AU trish

[minor ore]

🧢

[hard meteor]

No cap

Hato is WAY better

[prisma oxide]

And hotter

[minor ore]

This thread is projection of you guys' pervy hatred 😔

[minor ore]

[obsidian jacinth]

YES!

[obsidian jacinth]

like, projection from fate?

[prisma oxide]

I only simp Trish reimi and shigeci (sometimes hato)

[true ore]

[prisma oxide]

Well most of the time hato

[minor ore]

I knew it. This server is just opposite land. Ppl just say stuff that's obviously incorrect

[brittle lodge]

[prisma oxide]

Its an opinion

[minor ore]

Cap

[hard meteor]

And it’s true lol

[obsidian jacinth]

read chap 107

mmm

[prisma oxide]

If you don't like it you can get out

[minor ore]

Is it even possible to be attracted to Hato

[prisma oxide]

Yes

[obsidian jacinth]

read chap 107

[prisma oxide]

She's pretty

[obsidian jacinth]

mmm

[prisma oxide]

And nice

[minor ore]

Or I can stay here and slander you for it :)

[hard meteor]

[prisma oxide]

And needs a man that truly loves her

[hard meteor]

Imagine not liking hato

[prisma oxide]

She's been taken advantage of and she needs someone to love her truly

[minor ore]

Aight I've obviously heard it all at this point, so uhh

[prisma oxide]

And that's what the hato stans are for

Okay byee

[minor ore]

That awkward moment when you say bye and they're still there

[elfin tangle]

Fuck Daiya

[olive bobcat]

fr

[minor ore]

She never even did anything that bad bruh. Like I can understand you wouldn't wanna lose a memory, but it's not the craziest thing in the world. You guys are acting like she's the one who shot Johnny

[brazen pawn]

off topic but

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-fans-jojolion-new-jojolion-new-jojolion-chapter-jojolion-fans-gif-21213789

[drowsy hill]

"Guys, DIO never even did anything that bad, bruh. Sure, killing hundreds, if not, thousands of people is bad, but it's not the craziest thing in the world. You guys are acting like he's the one who shot Johnny."

[minor ore]

That's probably the worst false equivalence I've ever seen

[drowsy hill]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-gif-20184012

[minor ore]

I'm not. I'm perfectly fine 😂😂

You're just shit at debating

[drowsy hill]

Using emojis sounds

Definitely crying

[winter spade]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-the-chip-chips-chip-eating-chip-man-eating-three-chips-gif-18885184

[drowsy hill]

Imma just go back to not thinking

[minor ore]

Lol wtaf are you even on

[hard meteor]

It’s almost like people don’t like the fact this character tried sexuality assaulting the mc and nearly destroyed what little memories he had

🤔

[minor ore]

Oh God, I just realised something

That we live an a society and that's getting in the way if you seeing things in its truest light

!w soft and wet

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Soft_&_Wet
Not the correct result? Use !w page soft and wet for a direct link or !w search soft and wet for a list of all hits.

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Soft & Wet

Soft & Wet (ソフト＆ウェット, Sofuto Ando Wetto) is the Stand of Josuke Higashikata, originally belonging to Josefumi Kujo, featured in the 8th part of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, JoJolion. It is a humanoid Stand with a mechanical and sailing theme to its appearance. It can create bubbles that will steal properties and objects.

[minor ore]

rape isnt bad what is consent? ive never heard of it

[minor ore]

Scans?

[minor ore]

she takes all of his memories and while his mind is altered and he can barely remember a thing she manipulates him into sleeping with her

Josuke found her attractive and decided that he wanted it. That's literally consent

She didn't force him to do anything

There wasn't even an implication of anything. Josuke had the choice to do whatever

[winter spade]

Only after a majority of his memories were removed

[minor ore]

Ok and?

[winter spade]

We know for a fact his goal didn’t involve sleeping with or engaging with Daiya

[minor ore]

Since when does sleeping with girls have to fit in with your life goals?

[winter spade]

Since he was already pushing to try and discover the source of the stamp on the rail of the steps up to Norisuke’s private room

[winter spade]

The point is clear that only after Daiya removed enough of his memories where he was unable to remember what he was doing or what he wanted to do was where he showed attraction towards Daiya

We even see right after he gets his memories back that he admits he hates her and doesn’t want to sleep with her

[minor ore]

Okay, so he showed consent. I understand

[minor ore]

In other words, his opinion of her changed after their encounter

[winter spade]

It’s even made clear that josuke makes sure to establish boundaries with Daiya after the fact

[minor ore]

if you got a girl drunk and then she wanted to have sex but didnt before then would that be consent to you

[minor ore]

That's not in any way the same thing

[winter spade]

Romantic encounters are only truthful if the other person is willing to participate without the manipulations of a memory removing stand

[minor ore]

And I'm sure I can find that in an official document somewhere right

if you have to manipulate someones MIND to get them to have sex with you thats not consent

[winter spade]

That’s the main lesson josuke establishes with Daiya after that arc

[winter spade]

Hmm?

What are you babbling on about?

[minor ore]

She only removed some of Josuke's memories of her. In other words, he was willing to have sex with a Daiya that he knew less about. Meaning he would've done the same thing before he knew about her stand. It's consent

[near cedar]

What... terrible discussion did I just walk into now

[minor ore]

someone arguing daiya isnt a rapist lol

[near cedar]

Ah

So idiocy

[minor ore]

or that she didnt even do anything wrong

yes idiocy

[winter spade]

Which she did

[minor ore]

as usual

[minor ore]

[winter spade]

She’s the antagonist of that arc for a reason

[near cedar]

What, you defending a rapist

[minor ore]

He literally gave consent and initiated it

[winter spade]

Only after his memories were removed

Which you seem to continue to ignore

[minor ore]

he didnt initiate it whats wrong with you

god

she starts it

[minor ore]

Meaning he'd be in the same state of mind as before gaining those memories in the first place

[near cedar]

After getting memories erased and being told bullshit by her

[minor ore]

no he isnt in the same state

[minor ore]

He gets on top of her wtf

[winter spade]

It’s explicitly the opposite

[minor ore]

Yes, he is. His memories are the same in both cases

[winter spade]

Again you seem to ignore that

No they aren’t?

[minor ore]

no the memories are not the same

[winter spade]

Did you read the arc lol

[minor ore]

In what way

did you read the arc?

Daiya is an awful person

[winter spade]

In that josuke doesnt want to engage with Daiya, he just wants to see what’s inside norisuke’s room

[minor ore]

Thanks for your nothing-input once again

[minor ore]

fuck daiya

[minor ore]

This means nothing

it does mean something

[winter spade]

He only engages with Daiya once she literally starts ripping his memories out of his head and makes sure to force him to participate in romantic activities with her

[near cedar]

@minor ore oi, no nsfw emotes

[minor ore]

Are grown women who fuck little kids fine because the kid was on top?

actually refute his points stop saying "no thats not how it works"

[minor ore]

It's an eggplant, but whatever

[minor ore]

im starting to see why this guy is on thin ice

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 13 !

[winter spade]

It doesn’t have to literally show genitalia to be nsfw lol

[minor ore]

would you view that emote at work?

Yes

[winter spade]

Do I have to say it again?

For like the third time?

Lol

[minor ore]

infront of your boss

thats something called statutory rape

[near cedar]

It's nsfw, because of what the emote is implying, if it was just an eggplant it'd be fine, but it is not

[minor ore]

I wasn't responding to you...

[winter spade]

Hardly matters

You’re making the argument

[minor ore]

so he can respond

[near cedar]

What do you mean by this

[minor ore]

I was clarifying that kind of situation they were suggesting

[minor ore]

well yes thats what they mean

@minor ore right?

But it doesn't even matter, since Josuke is an adult and can consent

hes UNDER INFLUENCE OF A MIND MANIPULATING STAND

[near cedar]

That's not the point of that

[left ferry]

Josuke was blackmailed into sex which counts as rape man.

[minor ore]

why is that so hard to understand I dont get it

[winter spade]

If he’s in the state of mind to consent

Which he isn’t after he has a majority of his memories removed

Especially the one of Yasuho

Which, if you remember correctly, he had just tried to call

[near cedar]

If Daiya was a dude and Josuke a chick I'm sure they'd be singing a different song

[minor ore]

yeah lol

[left ferry]

Society.

[winter spade]

[minor ore]

So I'm guessing you'd make the exact same fuss if someone had sex while being affected by a stand that makes your mind less horny, or one that makes you get better sleep at night. There's clearly differences in what "mind manipulating" can mean. You're making false equivalences and generalisations that aren't applicable

[winter spade]

CKB is explicitly mind manipulation tho

[minor ore]

his memories have been manipulated so yes its applicable

[winter spade]

That’s

That’s the point of the stand lol

[minor ore]

Not really, since Josuke is literally in full control and had every reason to be able to decide what he wanted to do. He got on top and decided to do it

no he is not

did you read the arf

arc

chapters 8 and 9 are where this shit happens

did you read it

[near cedar]

Ugh

[minor ore]

I literally went back and reread it to be sure

I swear you are trolling rn

[near cedar]

Defending Daiya is cringe

Just stop the cap

[minor ore]

Nice rebuttal

[near cedar]

It's a fact

Defending a rapist is cringe

[minor ore]

you say that like youve made a good argument once

No rape occurred

[near cedar]

Yes it was only attempted

[minor ore]

Even though I've been doing that the whole time

"I only tried to rape her guys its ok"

[near cedar]

Still bad

[minor ore]

In what way did she force Josuke to do anything

[near cedar]

You lying to yourself if you think that

[left ferry]

People who refuse Daiya is a rapist gotta step back and go touch some trees 🤺

[winter spade]

Every reason to decide what he wanted to do? Did we forget about this?

[near cedar]

Everyone in this chat answered this question several times

[brittle lodge]

someone being a dumbass?

[left ferry]

Daiya defender

[brittle lodge]

ew

[minor ore]

What does any of this have to do with rape???

[winter spade]

It’s not really an argument if you just continue to ignore our points lol

You’re just finding an excuse to complain

[minor ore]

Taking away memories doesn't force anyone into anything. Try again

[near cedar]

You can't read

Learn to read

[minor ore]

the biggest dumbass ive seen so far

[near cedar]

Then read the arc

[minor ore]

I asked how he was forced. That was your reason

legitamently read the arc

[near cedar]

That is the reason yes

[minor ore]

I did. No rape

you have to have skipped it or something

[winter spade]

You stated he was entirely within his own state of mind and could make decisions to consent or not on his own. This is my counterpoint of literally showing him not being in that state of mind

[minor ore]

there is no way you are this oblivious

[near cedar]

Learn to read, attempted rape occured

[minor ore]

His state of mind is the same as when he didn't have those memories to begin with

[minor ore]

Based on?

[winter spade]

Considering he just tried to get away from the situation and call someone for help, only to have that memory removed and then engage with daiya on a romantic level

[brittle lodge]

are you blind as well?

[minor ore]

this has to be ironic

[minor ore]

Nice argument

theres no way

[winter spade]

It’s not though

[minor ore]

there is no way this isnt ironic

[minor ore]

Because why

this is an elaborate troll

[winter spade]

That just doesn’t make any sense lol

Probably a bait

Tbf

[brittle lodge]

this has to be an elaborate ruse

[hard meteor]

has to be

[minor ore]

its got to be

[near cedar]

Ah yes the girl he likes and tried to call, memories of her being ripped away from him, and then Daiya saying they are together, that's not manipulating him huh?

[minor ore]

nobody is this ignorant while reading jojolion

[near cedar]

Lies

[minor ore]

refutes your argument
"I must be getting trolled"

[near cedar]

You have not

[minor ore]

true lol

[near cedar]

Refuted anything

[minor ore]

didnt this guy get muted for defending rape earlier?

[minor ore]

So obviously this discussion is about nothing, since I haven't provided a counter to anything by your logic

[winter spade]

You need to have an actual argument to refute any of our points lol

[near cedar]

You haven't

You've ignored facts

From the story

[minor ore]

So obviously this discussion is about nothing

[near cedar]

Nah it's about somebody who simps an attempted rapist and must justify her because he can't accept what she tried to do

Like every Daiya defender ever

[minor ore]

She didn't rape him in any definition of the word

[winter spade]

Since you made it about nothing, yes

[minor ore]

Oh, so I guess when I scroll up, I'm just reading jumbled words

[near cedar]

See that is my point, you can't read, because I didn't say she did I said she attempted to

[minor ore]

Can you explain how she would've done so

When Josuke was getting ontop of her

By his own will

[near cedar]

^

[minor ore]

he wasnt acting by his own will

[minor ore]

LMAO WHAT

Who's will was it then??

[near cedar]

He wouldn't do it by his own will if his memories were all there

[minor ore]

he called for HELP and then she removed his memory of who he was calling

[minor ore]

So he would've done the same before he acquired those memories. I see

oh my god this has to be a troll

its like talking to a wall

[minor ore]

Refute the argument

but the wall is spouting gibberish the entire time

Obviously your intellect isn't even on the level of that wall

[left ferry]

They have to be br*'ish no way this has to be somebody who country's law consist of a woman being able to rape a man.

[minor ore]

Since you can't understand

Not once has anyone been able to disprove that Josuke would've done the same before getting those memories. So the entire argument is baseless. Thanks for all your concessions

yes we have

you just dont listen

Tell it to me

he was trying to escape and only after having his mind altered by CKB did he want to do anything with daiya

[summer nova]

they literally did

[summer nova]

to this

[minor ore]

I swear man

If your entire point is that he only did it because he didn't have those memories, there is literally no reason you can logically assume he wouldn't have done the same BEFORE having those memories as well

yes there is cause he attempted to escape the house

are you listening

When

or just saying shit

DID YOU READ THE ARC

I'm asking which point did he tried to escape. I didn't say that didn't happen

[summer nova]

daiya literally spelled it out here lmao

the only reason why josuke continued was because of the memory manipulation

[minor ore]

All this proves is that had Josuke met Daiya first, he would've had sex with her lol

[summer nova]

the fuck

[minor ore]

I can't even make this simpler. Lack of memories doesn't take away your ability to give consent

Like there's no reason to believe that

[summer nova]

what do u think that the ability to give consent is?

[minor ore]

If you're going by the lawful definition, being an adult who isn't drunk or intoxicated or being forced

[summer nova]

no that's not true

thats just one example

can u give an actual definition

[minor ore]

I asked for a reason to why you would believe otherwise

[obtuse smelt]

is themost active chat and im jsut part 5

[left ferry]

Ayo get back in the anime chat this discussion has a bunch of spoilers for the early arcs

[minor ore]

@obtuse smelt are you just trolling us 😂

[obtuse smelt]

yea a think

[minor ore]

Fucking hell lol

[summer nova]

@minor ore
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/consent-to-treatment/capacity/

"A person lacks capacity if their mind is impaired or disturbed in some way, which means they're unable to make a decision at that time.

Examples of how a person's brain or mind may be impaired include:
[...]

• dementia
• physical or mental conditions that cause confusion, drowsiness or a loss of consciousness
  [...]

Someone with such an impairment is thought to be unable to make a decision if they cannot:

• understand information about the decision
• remember that information
  "

Well, well, well...

[obtuse smelt]

wut

[left ferry]

I said get back #jojo-anime-discussion

[summer nova]

why?

oh its directed to someone_

[minor ore]

"which means they're unable to make a decision at that time". Josuke was perfectly capable

[left ferry]

I was mentioning someone_, they said they were still at part 5

[summer nova]

you're skipping over dementia and physical or mental conditions that cause confusion, drowsiness or a loss of consciousness

the major symptom of dementia is loss of memory

you're not going to argue that california king bed doesnt remove memories huh

[minor ore]

I'm literally just witnessing people who are entirely too stubborn in their beliefs to even let my objective way of looking at the situation influence their hated of the character. This is so pointless and frustrating. Just get over yourselves. Not you though@summer nova you've been very respectful

[minor ore]

Dementia is very damn different to having a specific few memories removed through a supernatural ability

[summer nova]

do you think that the NHS would include a supernatural ability that removes specific memories in that list?

ofcourse not, this is unrealistic

[obtuse smelt]

why people love jojolion

why is te mos aktiv

wi

whgi

whi

[summer nova]

the principle is that the participant's mind must not be disturbed in some way

[obtuse smelt]

[summer nova]

as they explained in the first sentence

[obtuse smelt]

freak oof koishi

[minor ore]

The point is that dementia is an ongoing illness that causes constant confusion and affects your mental state throughout your day to day

[summer nova]

which is what california king bed did to josuke's brain

[obtuse smelt]

OMG i dont understand nothing

[summer nova]

the point is that dementia disturbs the mind in some way making the victim unable to make an informed decision

the same principle applies to what happened to josuke

[minor ore]

Yes, at all times

[summer nova]

no

"at that time"

[minor ore]

Josuke simply forgot something. That's very damn different

[summer nova]

it literally says "at that time" in the definition by the nhs

[minor ore]

Why can't you see that dementia will affect you at all times in all situations

[summer nova]

"A person lacks capacity if their mind is impaired or disturbed in some way, which means they're unable to make a decision at that time."

[minor ore]

Yeah, he forgot something for good. That's not an impairment of decision making

[summer nova]

i'm talking about the principle

[summer nova]

it is

it removes information

important information too

[minor ore]

Not constantly

[obtuse smelt]

ur dicussion looc so mature

[summer nova]

what do you mean by "not constantly"?

[obtuse smelt]

idu

[summer nova]

that is not a requirement for something to be rape

[minor ore]

Ikr. You wouldn't expect that around here

[obtuse smelt]

wut

im not englich

koishi

[summer nova]

someone could be drunk on alcohol and only have those effects temporarily, but that doesn't mean that they're able to give consent

[minor ore]

Dementia will always affect you wherever you are. You will be confused a lot. That's why it impairs your decision making. If you forget one or two things randomly, I'm pretty sure you still retain your ability to make decisions

[obtuse smelt]

drunk? alcohol?

[summer nova]

do i need to pull up the quote for the third time?

[obtuse smelt]

im too youg for this

[summer nova]

yare yare daze

how old are u someone_ lmao

[obtuse smelt]

yare yare dawa

[near cedar]

Oh it's still going? Good so I didn't spend like 20 minutes rereading cringe

[obtuse smelt]

i hav... i think 5 or 3 idk

[heavy ledge]

man just drop it

[minor ore]

You need to explain how forgetting something one time removes your ability to make decisions as an adult human being

[obtuse smelt]

wut im not english

[near cedar]

Daiya being a creep #1

[summer nova]

no i don't

[summer nova]

and i'm not going to elaborate as i dont want to pull up the quote for the third time

or fourth idk

[obtuse smelt]

jojolion not look so good

[minor ore]

Imagine being unable to win a debate

[minor ore]

Still not seeing attempted rape

[obtuse smelt]

dont spam that pretty illegal

[minor ore]

Damn, still no rape

[minor ore]

Yet again. That's tough

Fourth time lucky I guess

[obtuse smelt]

wut josuke8 rape someone!?

[heavy ledge]

man josuke is so fucking cute

[summer nova]

it's useless, killer queen's definition for rape is very reductionist and they're cherry-picking pieces of the argument by taking them out of context instead of criticizing the argument as whole

[heavy ledge]

get out of here please dont be cringe

[left ferry]

NO DAIYA RAPED HIM DON'T GET IT MIXED UP

[obtuse smelt]

pls explain me

[hard meteor]

no quite the opposite actually

[heavy ledge]

read the manga

[left ferry]

GET BACK IN #jojo-anime-discussion

[obtuse smelt]

no you

[left ferry]

Read the manga when you're older

[minor ore]

There's no way you can convincingly state that Josuke's ability to make decisions was impaired when he decided to get on top of Daiya

[obtuse smelt]

is the one chanel alive

[summer nova]

and conventionally ignoring important details too

[hard meteor]

get out bruh

[near cedar]

Doesn't help I can't post the pics of Daiya pressuring Josuke to say he likes her, discord saying it's explicit lol

[obtuse smelt]

gn

[summer nova]

yes, there is no way I, or anyone else, can convince you at this point

and it's not because of your arguments

[heavy ledge]

lets put it this way, if theres someone very drunk asking you to sleep with them, would you agree to it even knowingly they are not fully under their capabilities of reasoning?

[left ferry]

Goodnight, have a great day tomorrow

[summer nova]

so I concede

[minor ore]

Asking him if he thinks she's cute is attempted rape now. What a world

[heavy ledge]

if your answer is yes, you are an asshole

which is more or less what daiya was doing

[minor ore]

You have to explain how his ability to make decisions was impaired. Forgetting something doesn't automatically mean you have dementia and are confused all the time

[summer nova]

already did but you ain't reading

did it multiple times

gave u a reputable source

[left ferry]

He's confused, Daiya altering Josuke's current thought of trying to escape to "hey she's pretty cute"

[summer nova]

and there was no rebuttal

not even a flawed one

[minor ore]

So you're saying I can't disagree with your assessment of that source and how you linked it to the situation...

[summer nova]

you can disagree with the assessment of that source, but u didn't do that

[minor ore]

You can't apply that definition to this situation

[summer nova]

i gave u the benefit by asking you for the definition

but you werent able to give a definition

so i looked up what the nhs defines consent to be

[minor ore]

I don't see the issue with that

Even then, when I gave a quick definition, you disagreed

So idk what you're trying to say

[summer nova]

that was not a definition

it was an example

for very limited cases

[minor ore]

Right. Well as I said, I was fine with using the definition you provided

[near cedar]

Daiya defenders

They don't listen

[summer nova]

indeed, that's why i said just now that u didnt criticize the assessment of the source i gave

[minor ore]

I said that you can't apply that definition to the manga and conclude that attempted rape took place

[heavy ledge]

theres so much sexual tension in the air

[summer nova]

yes i can

https://tenor.com/view/cope-gif-20111689

[minor ore]

Why does tension always have to be sexual bruh wtf

[near cedar]

What?

[heavy ledge]

oh wait you didnt ignore me this time

[minor ore]

Even though Josuke was perfectly capable of making decisions

[heavy ledge]

i asked u something and you were so focused on following pjotrs arguments i though u only had eyes for them @ kq btd

[near cedar]

Thought that was said to me for a sec

[lucid locust]

Lmao

[near cedar]

Was about to be confused x2

[minor ore]

Dementia is listed as an example of decision-making impairment, not memory loss. Curious. Could it be that amnesia isn't applicable to "decision making being impaired"?
I rest my case

[heavy ledge]

ikr

they ignored me again, it is definitely sexual tension

[lucid locust]

[near cedar]

Rests his case lol

[heavy ledge]

[minor ore]

[woeful sluice]

Y'all

[minor ore]

Gappy isn’t the best jojo

But he’s the most interesting

[near cedar]

Hm?

[woeful sluice]

Wpuld daiya vape

[kind owl]

@woeful sluice, Your Hamon Rank is now level 16 !

[woeful sluice]

Ayyyyyyyy

[near cedar]

Who knows

[woeful sluice]

Make a decision

[near cedar]

Nah, I don't think I will

[woeful sluice]

Coward ;P

[near cedar]

No

I just don't give enough of a crap about Daiya to think about it xD

[drowsy hill]

Daiya defenders are just horny

[minor ore]

She’s 16

[drowsy hill]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-and-and-okay-gif-20619947

[minor ore]

That’s gross as fuck dude

[drowsy hill]

How's that my problem?

[minor ore]

Horny and CORRECT

[minor ore]

"daiya is so based bro it wasnt rape bro believe me josuke wanted it bro i wish i was josuke"

When you can't accept that a man wanted his dick wet without being forced

[light swift]

the shota came out that card stack

[winter spade]

To imply josuke is so weak as to chase after any underage ass he sees is kinda cap ngl

[minor ore]

It happened in the story

Josuke would never catch a case for a mid female species member like daiya

Yasuho, however

[minor ore]

stop

[hard meteor]

accurate representation of yourself

[minor ore]

Sorry, I didn't hear a valid refutation

[winter spade]

Far too busy squeezing into the clown car

[minor ore]

Sorry to hear that

[olive bobcat]

sugar mountain girl is just the cooler daiya

[winter spade]

I know it must be hard living with corncob syndrome but I’m sure you manage

[minor ore]

Bad joke

[winter spade]

Sorry to hear that

But you have to be easier on yourself next time, ok?

[minor ore]

Still not hitting 😔 you gotta work on your material. Rather than car practice

[heavy ledge]

Josuke thinks bros before hoes and its proven right before love love deluxe starts, so all the discussion is pointless

[minor ore]

Well also

He did follow Rai's orders like a dog

Rai is based

"This woman is annoying, let's leave"

How many more chapters of part 8 are there going to be?

We don't know

A couple more

I say around 20

[light swift]

...dude rai is based

[trim willow]

Kei is jotaro

[uneven tendon]

[elfin tangle]

Too useless and shafted to be Jotaro.

[uneven tendon]

The only thing Kei shares with Jotaro is a hat

[lusty rampart]

When you realise the Born This Way & Paisley Park arc hits all the story beats of the Nijimura Brothers arc of Part 4

and thats why she got the nijimura name

[uneven tendon]

Nah, it was an alias

[lusty rampart]

well yeah i mean out of story

[burnt quiver]

and a traumatic head injury

[near cedar]

^They're right you know ^

[hardy trench]

ayo why is mitsuba in such a weird dress

why would anyone wear some see-trough shit

[lusty rampart]

its fashion honey you wouldnt understand

[minor ore]

^^

[hardy trench]

also is it normal that they refer to him as Uu instead of wu?

because I thought his name was wu

[near cedar]

wait they do what

I remember it being Wu

[hardy trench]

they call him uu in the manga im reading

[near cedar]

Interesting

[uneven tendon]

Apparently Araki likes to write his name as Woo

[near cedar]

Either my memory is shit, or it wasn't like that where i read it

[hardy trench]

it might be because of the fact that im reading it in Japanese or that im just reading it wrong

but it def looks like uu

[near cedar]

oh you are reading in Japanese?

Neat

[lusty rampart]

yes japanese its Ū

[hardy trench]

yeah, im trying

[minor ore]

!w doctor wu

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Doctor_Wu

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Doctor Wu

Doctor Wu (ドクター・ウー, Dokutā Ū) is the Stand of Dr. Wu Tomoki, featured in the 8th part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJolion. It is a pure ability Stand that allows Dr. Wu to decompose himself into small particles.

[minor ore]

its read as 'woo' isnt it

[hardy trench]

in english probably

[minor ore]

Doctor WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Doctor who

[brittle lodge]

Doctor UwU

[trim willow]

Head docter

[brittle lodge]

docter

[trim willow]

Yes docter

[brittle lodge]

no

[trim willow]

Yes

[brittle lodge]

doctor

[trim willow]

Docter

[minor ore]

I was referencing the show doctor who

[hard meteor]

Docter

[brittle lodge]

but also

Doctor UwU

[trim willow]

Yes docter

[minor ore]

Doctor OwO

[brittle lodge]

Doctor TwT

[minor ore]

Doctor AwA

[brave geyser]

Doctor Wu

[brittle lodge]

Doctor >w>

[minor ore]

docter

[brittle lodge]

docter

[trim willow]

Yes docter

[brittle lodge]

why docter?

[hardy trench]

did mitsubasa have her stand before the wu fight?

[minor ore]

Ok I’m completely caught up on jojolion

Hmm how much arcs do you guys think are left

[hard meteor]

Yes all the higashikatas develop their stands from the wall eyes

[olive bobcat]

id say probably 10-15 chapters?

[minor ore]

Hmmm

I think tooru is about to get a power boost

[tame plover]

He seems half dead right now

[olive bobcat]

i think toorus about to fucking die

[tame plover]

Must be a hell of a boost

[minor ore]

Yeah I think the rock disease is gonna make him stronger

[hard meteor]

“Power boost”

[minor ore]

Also I think he needs more development, we still know barely any thing about him.

[olive bobcat]

hopefully we get an FV style on-death flashback

[hard meteor]

If he was gonna get a boost it would’ve happened far earlier at this point josuke can just shoot from the phone and the fight would be over

[tame plover]

So paisley parks can move whatever thru a screen or just josukes bubbles because they are “nothing”

[minor ore]

At this point "FV" is a trauma trigger

[hard meteor]

It looks like only the bubbles

[uneven tendon]

It's possible Tooru will be healed or something

But idk about power boost

[light swift]

By what

Bruh

Ya not gonna say the rock disease right?

[light swift]

Okay fine, there's a possiblity.

What does the rock disease do again? Distort the persons shape right?

[hard meteor]

Yes

And slowly kills them

Tbh I don’t see the likelihood of it happening

[light swift]

Yeah

[hard meteor]

It’s more likely it causes a major chage in tsurugi and starts the process of the flash forward

[light swift]

Imo tooru is fucked

That's it, i don't see him getting out of this at all

[near cedar]

He's fucked but not defeated yet

He'll probably do something this chapter and then potentially die

[west stump]

@uneven tendon I think Tooru is very overrated in the jjl community

[uneven tendon]

No he isn't

A lot of people regard him as mid

[west stump]

He is def a great villain but he is kinda bland imo

[uneven tendon]

When he isn't

Nah

Also, his story isn't done yet

[west stump]

he has a great backstory but he doesnt seem very special

[uneven tendon]

He's pretty special

[minor ore]

ooo heroic caato ❤️

[uneven tendon]

One thing I don't get though is why when Tooru talks about Caato's murder he says it happened 15 years prior

When it actually happened 20 years prior

She was arrested 5 years later when they found the bully's corpse

[hard meteor]

I think araki just mixed up the dates

Since it should be 20 years

[uneven tendon]

He does confuse Tsurugi's age being 10 and 11 quite a bit

The anime will probably change Tsurugi's birth year to 2001

[west stump]

He may have only found out about it when it was discovered and she was arrested

[uneven tendon]

The corpse was already decomposed though

[west stump]

Or araki messed up a bit but either way i dont think its too deep

[uneven tendon]

It definitely wouldn't be considered as recent for the time

[west stump]

Also back to the thing i was saying I just feel the overall of sbr is better than the overall of jjl

[kind owl]

@west stump, Your Hamon Rank is now level 6 !

[west stump]

like breaking each thing down

I think sbr and JJl have a tie in main cast

both are amazing

I feel sbr had better fights and I also think the villain was better in sbr

and minor villains in sbr were better

[uneven tendon]

Nah

I can see better fights and better villain

[west stump]

Nah for what? If you say everything its cap

[uneven tendon]

But a lot of the minor villains in SBR weren't great

Like the Boom Boom family

[west stump]

only bad one i can think of is boom boom family

and even then I can remember them still

[uneven tendon]

Mrs. Robinson?

[west stump]

Jjl has a bunch of dookie minor villains lol

[uneven tendon]

[brittle lodge]

aphex twins couldve been better

[west stump]

there are some good ones but still

aphex twins were a let down

but it was funny how Josuke dealt with them so easily

[hard meteor]

Aphex twins are the only real bad ones

Aisho,damo,yotsuyu, dr wu,poor Tom all solid minor villains

[west stump]

Poor tom?

i disagree

[junior coral]

Poor Tom is mid

[uneven tendon]

No

[junior coral]

He’s a funny guy but not all that great

[west stump]

Dr Wu is ok

[uneven tendon]

Poor Tom is chad

[hard meteor]

Poor Tom was based smh

[lucid locust]

Poor Toms chase scene boosts his arc alot imo

[uneven tendon]

''Ok''

[west stump]

yeah

”ok”

[uneven tendon]

[lost slate]

dr wu is pretty funny

[uneven tendon]

Not everyone can be Donny Domino or Haruno Higashikata

[west stump]

Also im just gonna be honest i can usually respect peoples opinions but how tf did someone like phantom blood more than sbr

[lost slate]

"i never fail"

fails

[sudden nymph]

Plot twist he was trying to die therefore he didn’t fail

[brittle lodge]

yes

[sudden nymph]

@west stump I was lied to I see no message

[brittle lodge]

lied too

[minor ore]

lied too

[minor ore]

I definitely think blonde is diavolo

[brittle lodge]

wot

[minor ore]

watt

[sudden nymph]

Diavolo was born with pink hair

[lucid locust]

[sudden nymph]

He didn’t dye it

[minor ore]

i honestly dont know what they even meant

i honestly what they meant

no pasta no

AH TOO LATE

yes pasta yes

[lucid locust]

I honestly what they even meant

[minor ore]