jojolion

[quiet hare]

I didn’t even notice

[rocky charm]

But she doesn't seem to represent a specific character

It's a callback, but not an AU person

[quiet hare]

But isn’t this just a callback to diu

[minor ore]

Nope

It's a callback to 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6

Not like part 7 which is a callback to like

1 and 2

[quiet hare]

2 because of Joseph joestar

[minor ore]

No not really

[quiet hare]

And I also just saw a picture of ermes and enyaba. I know it might not be a callback but I thought it was cool

[minor ore]

Two because of rock humans being a pillar men parallel, also spin being like a hamon thing, and 3-5 have way way more references

And 6 is about caato

[quiet hare]

I don’t think about this too much

[minor ore]

3 because the world

[uneven tendon]

4 because fates worse than death

[minor ore]

fates worse than death isn't just a part 4 thing

[runic adder]

I didn’t even know it was named anything until now

[minor ore]

1- stuck on bottom of the ocean for 100 years
2- stuck in space until braindead
3- dead
4- taken away by hands
5- infinite death
6- beaten so hard he never existed

[runic adder]

Don’t forget magenta magenta who is also stuck at the bottom of the ocean

He may be stuck there forever if he’s not touched upon in part 8

[minor ore]

i was only doing main villans

unless

[hard meteor]

Kiras fate wasn’t that bad tbh

[true ore]

actually kira didnt die, he became kira again and worrks as a ghost

[runic adder]

Ye ye Ik but magent has one of the worst deaths for a minor villain

[hard meteor]

He gets to chill as a ghost for the rest of his life

[rocky charm]

He said "Taken away by hands"

[true ore]

ik but that wasnt his fate

[nocturne whale]

lol

[barren bough]

7 - shot

[minor ore]

with infinite spin

[rocky charm]

8- Collapse in a hallway after hairspray drained his blood

[true ore]

i cant see anything

my allergies are so bad my eyes barley work, even with my glasses

[minor ore]

weak

[runic adder]

all according to calamity

[signal mural]

Part 1 is absolutely not worse than death

[olive bobcat]

huh?

[minor ore]

What the fuck happened in part 7

unless dio has some kind of vampiric sleep

It was so fucking boring lmao

I forgot did FV kill himself

he got shot by infinite spin

[olive bobcat]

infinite spin

[minor ore]

And then what

and then got shot when he didn't want to pick up his gun

Ok

So Johnny killed him with his gun?

yes

but infinite spin is painful as hell

[uneven tendon]

But not as painful as Yasuho's rejections

[minor ore]

Tooru rejected yasuho actually

Boss chad

[uneven tendon]

She deserved the calamities for being such a bitch

I wonder why they split up in the first place

Maybe we'll see a flashback to that?

[runic adder]

are there any references at all to the kawajiris in part 8

[hard meteor]

Sadly no

[runic adder]

damn

[minor ore]

Tooru kawajiri

[runic adder]

hayato au when

hayato is the mystery man

[rocky charm]

Not yet

[runic adder]

yet

[olive bobcat]

inb4 toorus last name is kawajiri

[runic adder]

lmao

[rocky charm]

Tooru quits and goes home to bang his hot Shinobu wife

[runic adder]

do we know karera's last name btw?
not an important detail but i just forgot it

[uneven tendon]

Guys, what if Tooru's last name is actually Steel?

[rocky charm]

Sakunami

[uneven tendon]

He is Lucy's great-great grandson

[rocky charm]

Lucy Steel is a Rock Human /s

[runic adder]

cool cool

[uneven tendon]

Better yet: maybe Tooru's last name is actually Bucciarati?

[runic adder]

[hard meteor]

Aztec guy doesn’t count :troll:

[runic adder]

thats what people think is dio?

[gritty mauve]

@runic adder just wait a few years

[runic adder]

cringe

[rocky charm]

Stone Mask guy may or may not be Dio, in all honesty

He's next to Enya, but that's two different panels

And it would be weird to just have some rando there

[uneven tendon]

It was probably Dio, considering how much Araki likes that character

[minor ore]

Caato fans when they see the twist next chapter

[gritty mauve]

Enya is always with dio

[runic adder]

what twist will that be

are you a caatooru believer?

[gritty mauve]

so dio in all 8 parts

[rocky charm]

Enya is the Wang Chan of Part 3

[olive bobcat]

i believe in toto

[minor ore]

No, just tooru heals off of caato

And gets back up

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[hard meteor]

I believe in kaato not getting cucked(please araki I’m begging you)

[runic adder]

lol that would be so lame

[uneven tendon]

I believe in Caato kissing Norisuke

[runic adder]

just, caato shows up, gives no answers to anything

[rocky charm]

That would be hilarious

[runic adder]

and dies

[minor ore]

It would

[rocky charm]

Caato is here only to die

[hard meteor]

Ok based

[uneven tendon]

And the kiss wakes him up

[runic adder]

after what happened to kei im worried honestly

[rocky charm]

And then he screams "AAAH I'M IN PAIN" and dies

[minor ore]

[uneven tendon]

And he gets King Nothing Act 2, which is just as strong as Star Platinum

[minor ore]

I just want to piss off caatobros

[runic adder]

im not a caato mv supporter but i do want her to have a sizeable role and a good appearance, instead of another kei

[gritty mauve]

Are you a believer in the part 9 church?

[hard meteor]

Ye same

[runic adder]

inb4 caato does a sandman

[uneven tendon]

TBH I kind of want a Caato and Tooru fusion, it would be cool what Araki could do with both characters being merged

[hard meteor]

I don’t want another kei death bro

[rocky charm]

Guys what if Haato dies

Will anyone be sad?

[runic adder]

i think a jobin tooru fusion would be better

[uneven tendon]

Especially considering that unlike Josefumi and Kira, who were 2 male humans, Caato is a human woman and Tooru is a male rock human

[hard meteor]

Yeah she was hot

[runic adder]

i dont really think jobin and tooru fusion will really happen tho

[rocky charm]

Yasuho's hotter

[uneven tendon]

No

[hard meteor]

True

[minor ore]

Like ok "Aw haato died" ok then what

[uneven tendon]

Kei is hotter than Yasuho imo

[gritty mauve]

gappy gonna break fiction to bring her back

[hard meteor]

But hato got a dumptruck 🥴

[rocky charm]

Does

[runic adder]

if hato dies without every using her stand again that would be hilarious

[rocky charm]

Does Gappy care about Haato?

Have they even interacted outside of Vitamin C?

[runic adder]

gappy still considers the higashikatas his family

[olive bobcat]

a bit?

[runic adder]

i dont think he fully loves her but he would be a bit sad

[rocky charm]

Gappy only cares about Norisuke and Joshu, like a chad

[gritty mauve]

joshu a whole mistake

[minor ore]

Huh?

Not fucking again

[uneven tendon]

Flirting with big bro

[uneven tendon]

*Joshu is one of the best parts about Jojolion

[rocky charm]

Yeah that's a weird panel

[minor ore]

Dont

[frail haven]

If Kaato and Tooru fuse, will they forget everything?

[runic adder]

never realized how long keis hair was before

[minor ore]

Most likely

[runic adder]

its possible

[minor ore]

Or it could be random

[rocky charm]

kinda hot

[hard meteor]

Just some wholesome sibling bonding

[runic adder]

we dont know anything about fusion entirely

[uneven tendon]

Kei do be having that Joestar genes

[runic adder]

kira being dead could have been what caused the amnesia?

[rocky charm]

damn what a sexy woman

[uneven tendon]

Hotter than Holly tbh

[quiet hare]

I just finished all the current chapters of jojolion

[kind owl]

@quiet hare, Your Hamon Rank is now level 2 !

[runic adder]

we really just dont know why

[quiet hare]

One of the best parts I’ve ever read

[rocky charm]

Which Holly

[uneven tendon]

Both

[minor ore]

Nice

Its the best

[runic adder]

nice

[frail haven]

Remember the scenes from that one arc where there are upskirt shots of Yashuo for no reason?

[quiet hare]

My favourite was part 6 but part 8 is next

[rocky charm]

Doctor Wu

[frail haven]

"IM GONNA PUT ROCKS IN YOUR PUSSY!"

[rocky charm]

And that was because he was climbing in her panties

[uneven tendon]

Jojolion is good, but can it match Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe?

[rocky charm]

So not "no reason"

[frail haven]

I CANT BELEIEVE THATS IN THERE

[rocky charm]

Just a horrifying reason

[uneven tendon]

Doctor Wu is a strange Stand

[runic adder]

araki didnt really need to put those shots tho, or that part of the fight

[quiet hare]

Can it match jorge joestar

[uneven tendon]

It already did, with the first chapter

[hard meteor]

Can it much dmq?

[rocky charm]

You know what

Fuck it

[runic adder]

johnm1 preparing to send the same jjl gif for the 3000th time today

[rocky charm]

I'm gonna watch TSKR

[minor ore]

Ove sent this fucking meme like over 50 times

[runic adder]

both are fantastic memes

im glad i can actually find jojolion memes now

[uneven tendon]

TBH I'm still disappointed that Kei didn't have much going on than ''being rude but also loves her mom''

[runic adder]

yea kinda a missed character potential

[hard meteor]

Aren’t we all 😔

Legit came back just to die

[uneven tendon]

Especially considering how much we know about part 8 Kira

I could argue Josefumi also had this issue, to a lesser extent

[runic adder]

kira has way more personality than kei

[uneven tendon]

His personality wasn't very deep other than ''kind and chill but also depressed and lonely all the time''

[runic adder]

[uneven tendon]

He was a great character

Don't take this the wrong way

But we don't know a lot about him either

[hard meteor]

Yeah I see where you’re coming from

Kira got most of the focus out of those flashbacks

There’s a lot of vague area around josefumis life that we still dont Really know

[uneven tendon]

I also wonder why he felt abandoned his entire life, when his mother probably still took care of him after the drowning incident

[hard meteor]

I don’t think she did tbh

[uneven tendon]

I guess she stopped contacting him after he started to go to college?

[runic adder]

even if his mother still did take care of him im sure they werent very close

[hard meteor]

It’s possible she just stopped interacting with him as he grew up

[uneven tendon]

True, I just wonder on what he meant by ''I was abandoned my ENTIRE LIFE'', rather than just one terrible near drowning incident

[hard meteor]

Could be by other people

[runic adder]

i doubt he had many friends

[uneven tendon]

That's a shame, the guy had a lot of drip

[hard meteor]

Maybe he just had it rough growing up,didn’t have any friends,or anyone close to rely on

[runic adder]

indeed

and had a girl stalking him

dude should've been somewhat popular

[uneven tendon]

I'm wondering why it was just Karera and not his entire college

[runic adder]

just karera? wdym

oh that crushed on him

the haircut probably

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832163676093677568/832181784732762142/video0.mov Josefumi be like:

[uneven tendon]

He had an awesome haircut wdym

[runic adder]

he does but as we've seen with josuke 4 people dont appreciate amazing haircuts

[hard meteor]

TFW you’re dripped out but you have like one friend and a stalker

[runic adder]

and the friend is ten years older than you

[uneven tendon]

I think the reason I am bothered by the lack of info on Josefumi is because technically he IS Josuke

Most of the body is Josefumi's, and Kira died when fusion happened

[runic adder]

understandable

[uneven tendon]

Even Josefumi's status is ''reborn as Josuke'' whereas Kira is straight up dead

[runic adder]

well yea

if josefumi didnt get amnesia he would still be josefumi
well, thats mostly a theory

[uneven tendon]

Maybe we could somehow get more Kira and Josefumi flashbacks

[runic adder]

we dont know what happens with wall eyes

[runic adder]

i think we definitely can

but we're in the final stages of jojolion

[hard meteor]

I hope we can

[runic adder]

what would we even have left to uncover

the damokan group is done

[foggy gulch]

We only had some at the very start

[hard meteor]

Some extra characterization would be nice

[sudden nymph]

We still don’t know how he is in the family tree

[kind owl]

@sudden nymph, Your Hamon Rank is now level 33 !

[runic adder]

trio photo and josefumi birthmark are all that needs to be explained

and both of those could be explained without a flashback

[sudden nymph]

I’m pretty sure we all know how he is in the family tree but it would be nice to hear the official answer

[runic adder]

karera could shed some light on the trio photo(she probably will if she ever shows up again)

[uneven tendon]

Or if he even is in the family tree, and if the birthmark was a mistake or not

[runic adder]

joseph joestar did the funny again?

[uneven tendon]

Because chapter 105 seemingly retconned the birthmark

[sudden nymph]

I mean it makes the most sense

[runic adder]

yea

[uneven tendon]

I don't think we need another ''Joseph cheating'' stuff

[runic adder]

unless josefumi is somehow related to the 1901 baby

[heavy ledge]

hey

HEY

[runic adder]

which raises more questions than it answers

[heavy ledge]

STOP

[uneven tendon]

Hey

[sudden nymph]

Just a reminder that we never saw Johnny’s birthmark just because we don’t see it in a scene doesn’t mean it’s retconned

[runic adder]

yea like why bait us with all that

[heavy ledge]

YOU CANT ARGUE ABOUT THE BIRTHMARK TWICE IN A WEEK, CUT IT OFF

[runic adder]

if its just joseph cheating

[runic adder]

its better than a joshu discussion

[heavy ledge]

ITS TWICE PER MONTH

[runic adder]

enjoy this while it lasts

[hard meteor]

It’s either Joseph,the 3 other George kids in the family tree

[uneven tendon]

Joshu discussions are great, the people who discuss Joshu are the problem

[hard meteor]

OR

[sudden nymph]

If we change the word birthmark to something else can we do it

[heavy ledge]

lets go back to how awesome joshu is

[runic adder]

please lets not

i really just hate talking about joshu

[heavy ledge]

no, you are still discussing it

[runic adder]

unless its circlejerking

[hard meteor]

Or a descendant from johnnys daughter

[strange lava]

the wonder of joshU

[hard meteor]

That be pretty based

[uneven tendon]

Yes

[runic adder]

tattoo?

[heavy ledge]

lets make a list about awesome things joshu did

[sudden nymph]

I was thinking star but sure

[heavy ledge]

existing

[strange lava]

thanks for watching!

[runic adder]

1. change his haircut

[hard meteor]

2. Stood up to a villian

[runic adder]

no im saying thats an answer to josefumi

[heavy ledge]

defended yasuho twice

[sudden nymph]

3. Was gonna buy Josuke a 5 star meal with the stolen money

[heavy ledge]

is concerned about the big companies scamming customers

[hard meteor]

4.watched a pirates of the Caribbean movie

[heavy ledge]

johnny depp supporter

[runic adder]

5. doesnt believe in god

[heavy ledge]

cant math but is cool with it

[foggy gulch]

Always checks the expiration date

[uneven tendon]

6. Shamed his mother for being a child murderer who seemingly threatened his family

[sudden nymph]

6. He gave someone a stand that gives them infinite money

[heavy ledge]

theres plenty of reasons to like him

[uneven tendon]

7. Saved and helped Yasuho

[hard meteor]

8.payes a taxi driver extra

[uneven tendon]

9. Forgave Josuke in Shakedown Road

After he had every reason to hate him

[foggy gulch]

He is very merciful

[uneven tendon]

He is also very kind and protective towards his loved ones

[uneven tendon]

But that was the worst one

[sudden nymph]

10. He likes Red pandas one of the cutest animals

[foggy gulch]

(win)

[hard meteor]

11. Fish sausage enthusiast

[uneven tendon]

12. Outsmarted Millagro Man on his own

[sudden nymph]

13. Tanked a calamity

[heavy ledge]

three times

[uneven tendon]

14. Respected his siblings

[hard meteor]

14.was concerned for his nephews safety

[uneven tendon]

16. Cried over his dad

[heavy ledge]

despite his dad adopted a random sailor guy and took everything from him, joshu still loves his dad

[uneven tendon]

18. Despite preferring women with large breasts, he was still in love with Yasuho

And respected her

[sudden nymph]

19. Is a good Chaotic neutral character and the world doesn’t have many good chaotic neutral characters

[lost moss]

does WOU work if the stand is not activated?

[sudden nymph]

What do you mean

[lost moss]

like if tooru is not using his stand, does the calamity effect still work?

we see tooru constantly have his stand active throughout the whole fight

[sudden nymph]

He has to activate the stand in order for it to work

[runic adder]

2*

[indigo quail]

what song from other animes or just overall do you think would be good for jjl anime op

[lost moss]

wonder of U is pretty broken in fights, there are 3 ways to beat it:

1. Learn hamon or spin

[runic adder]

there is 1 way to beat it

have soft and wet: go beyond

[lost moss]

2. get tooru to deactivate his stand

[runic adder]

you cant get him to deactivate it

[lost moss]

3. get him to attack you and defend yourself

[runic adder]

even if you defend yourself that is not beating it

[foggy gulch]

Why would he deactivate it

[lost moss]

who knows bruv

[runic adder]

yea "deactivating it" applies to literally every stand user

[lost moss]

still a way to beat it

just extremely unlikely

now another question

[indigo quail]

[lost moss]

tooru mentioned "order of calamity" like there was a list

so if someone is pursuing him when there's already people who need to be affected by calamity first, could they get close?

[foggy gulch]

It just means what order the calamity is following, if the order is death then yeah you're gonna die.

[lost moss]

that doesn't answer my question

[indigo quail]

im not sure

[foggy gulch]

Probably not, but it might be a possibility

Because so far the only thing that's hit wou is josukes bubbles

[hard meteor]

They can’t,kei fro example wasn’t in the flow originally but when she launched the bubbles at wou she was dealt with immediately and the order continued

[lost moss]

idk how though

doesn't seem to make sense

he said they dont exist within this world

but we can see them

and they interact with the world

[hard meteor]

It seems like if you pursue at all you’re made first priority and the list continues like normal

[lost moss]

sounds a bit like tusk act 4

[foggy gulch]

The bubbles don't exist in this dimension of space, but still affect it, it's based on string theory.

[lost moss]

ah

thank you

[nocturne whale]

ngl Gappy's Determation is Unbreakable

[kind owl]

@nocturne whale, Your Hamon Rank is now level 8 !

[uneven tendon]

But he is not as determined as Tooru

[nocturne whale]

yes he is :V

[teal brook]

this is true.

[nocturne whale]

more because look at the calamity, he is taking

He is owning it, all to get a fruit

[uneven tendon]

He ate the last New Locacaca, the thing he wanted to gain money and power from, and tried to be healed through Yasuho

[runic adder]

yknow, i really like that tooru doesnt have crazy monologues and long speeches while in combat
once he literally got destroyed by go beyond he immediately did what he had to do and ate the fruit

and silently approached yasuho

hes an asshole but straight to the point

[teal brook]

he should've done that 😔

[uneven tendon]

Another reason Tooru is one of the best Jojo antagonists

[runic adder]

protagonists?

[nocturne whale]

what about Gappy

[uneven tendon]

Oops

Antagonists

[teal brook]

lmao protagonist

[runic adder]

lol

nah bro tooru main protagonist of part 9

we get a prequel set for tooru

[teal brook]

😲

[runic adder]

and his rise to power

[uneven tendon]

So yeah, Tooru is one of the best Jojo antagonists

[nocturne whale]

Gappy, determation is higer

[teal brook]

ehhh, there's not a lot to Tooru

[nocturne whale]

cough DIO

[runic adder]

yea pretty much, hes in the top 3 for me

[uneven tendon]

There is

[teal brook]

He just wants to sell the Rokakaka

[nocturne whale]

WHere do we rate Diavolo

[teal brook]

and stops anyone in his way

[nocturne whale]

He is rude

[teal brook]

wow.

[nocturne whale]

Because he wants it for money

[runic adder]

there isnt a ton of dimensions to his quest, he just wants the fruit to ascend the rock humans to the dominant race

so basically pillar men

[nocturne whale]

And Gappy wants it to heal someone

[uneven tendon]

I doubt Tooru wants the Locacaca just for money, even though he really does want to meet Bill Gates

[nocturne whale]

So, Basically Tooru is rude

[runic adder]

but its less about his motivations for me and more about his personality and great moments

[nocturne whale]

Acutally

[runic adder]

he does just want the locacaca for money, to take over the world

[nocturne whale]

I am thinking, Can the new roka bring people back

[runic adder]

people back from the dead?

[uneven tendon]

Yeah but we don't know WHY he wants power

[nocturne whale]

yeah

[uneven tendon]

It can't

[runic adder]

thats for every rock human as well

[nocturne whale]

as a exchange

[hard meteor]

Nope

[runic adder]

it could literally just be because they want to be the dominant species

[uneven tendon]

Nothing can bring you back from the dead

[runic adder]

as demonstrated with kira new locacaca doesnt bring you back

[nocturne whale]

Dam, Imagine if it worked on Johnny Joestar

[teal brook]

say bye to the guy in your pfp then 😏 (jk)

[uneven tendon]

He would still die

[runic adder]

[nocturne whale]

lo

he is a goner

[hard meteor]

low blow

[teal brook]

lmfao 😎

[nocturne whale]

the father and hkim

him*

Tooru is worst'

[uneven tendon]

I don't mind Tooru's motivations being money and power, I just think Araki has more tricks up his sleeve when it comes to Tooru

[nocturne whale]

Notice how every jojo wanted for power, or health to defeat a human

villians too

The Corse PArts

[runic adder]

same i dont mind tooru being a sorta one dimensional villain in his motivation

[nocturne whale]

Red Aja

[runic adder]

obviously theres gonna be more for tooru

[nocturne whale]

Dio's Diary

[runic adder]

he is not done yet for the story

[nocturne whale]

Dio's Bone

[runic adder]

not pucci

he only wanted power as a means to "help" humanity

[teal brook]

this is true.

[runic adder]

in his vision

[uneven tendon]

No, I mean that Tooru's motivations will probably be more fleshed out than ''money''

[nocturne whale]

If he gets a upgrade like kira, dio, and valutinue

[teal brook]

maybe

[uneven tendon]

By the time he's actually dead

[nocturne whale]

ACUTALLY

what happens when a rock human eats a roka

[runic adder]

like i said, its literally just establishing the rock humans as the ruling species

pillar men motivations

[uneven tendon]

We saw Iwasuke eat a Locacaca

[runic adder]

thats why he wants the plant

[runic adder]

we dont know

[teal brook]

ah yes requiem WoU where if you look at him you die immediately

[uneven tendon]

It saved him with seemingly no side effects to anything else

[nocturne whale]

If yassho, didn't eat it

She Could have it to Jobin and run

to jOSUKE

[runic adder]

yea yotsuya just randomly gave iwasuke a locacaca and it reverted him from stone right?

idk

[uneven tendon]

Yeah

[nocturne whale]

and Tooru, keeps the other one

[uneven tendon]

But considering Tooru wanted to use Yasuho to heal himself, I guess that was retconned?

[runic adder]

idk lots of retcons around that time so its probably an inconsistency

[nocturne whale]

there :V

[runic adder]

retconned what?

[nocturne whale]

funny how none died yet

[runic adder]

dude

at least 2 people are dead fr

norisuke and jobin are both maybes

[nocturne whale]

or get any spirts scences

[nocturne whale]

mc

[runic adder]

rai and kei literally got a spirit scene

[uneven tendon]

Technically Mamezuku and Kei did get ghost scenes

[runic adder]

we see their ghost hands touch josuke

[nocturne whale]

Important people

[uneven tendon]

But they are important

[nocturne whale]

:V

[uneven tendon]

Jobin and Norisuke are part of the family

The family is the main focus of Jojolion

[nocturne whale]

WAIT

Mamezuku died?

[runic adder]

bruh have you read jojolion

[hard meteor]

Yeah

[runic adder]

are you caught up?

[nocturne whale]

Yes

I just didn't see it

[hard meteor]

He got bodied by the bubbles remember

[uneven tendon]

Mamezuku isn't dead, just sleeping

He will only have one minor scar left from the encounter

[runic adder]

reading retention is at an all time low recently

[nocturne whale]

are you?

[uneven tendon]

He is

[nocturne whale]

:V

[runic adder]

yes i am

[nocturne whale]

I am too 😛

[teal brook]

No, Mamezuku's still aliv...

[uneven tendon]

Then why you didn't know Mamezuku was dead?

[runic adder]

cope harder

[nocturne whale]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-am-yes-i-am-gif-4799231

[teal brook]

shut uuuppppp

[uneven tendon]

Mamezuku ain't going to survive this

[near cedar]

He already died

[nocturne whale]

sure, if jobin is alive

[uneven tendon]

Yeah, I am trying to debunk him saying Mamezuku isn't dead

[nocturne whale]

He might have lived

It was a hit to the face

[near cedar]

We saw his ghost

[uneven tendon]

Jobin is probably gravely injured or dying

[nocturne whale]

pic?

[teal brook]

funny.

very. funny.

[nocturne whale]

0_0

[teal brook]

when was that?

[uneven tendon]

Chapter 104

After Tooru decided to leave the hospital after the bubbles slightly injured him

[nocturne whale]

sobs😫

[uneven tendon]

TBH I wish Kei was alive, considering how bad her death was

[hard meteor]

Same tbh

But ah well

[runic adder]

im fine with keis death i just wish it wasnt so sudden

i dont think there were a lot of directions her character could have taken

[nocturne whale]

that could be kira thp

[near cedar]

...

[nocturne whale]

tho

[near cedar]

No

[hard meteor]

Stop coping bro

[uneven tendon]

I hope Araki won't give us more Kei deaths, otherwise I think Jojolion might start to go downhill

[hard meteor]

Kira doesn’t have those arm Cuffs on his wrists

[uneven tendon]

I don't remember Kira being able to peel his skin or missing fingers

[near cedar]

Kira doesn't have hands that are unwound by Doggy Style

[uneven tendon]

I also wish Doggy Style's actual form did more

But the Stand itself was well used

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428584148651737091/834003673989382144/Screenshot_20210415-164435_Chrome.jpg What a great Stand

[nocturne whale]

Mummy

Gappy=Spongebob

[uneven tendon]

No, a chad Stand

[uneven tendon]

How

[nocturne whale]

Pink best friend

LIkes FIred Food

[uneven tendon]

[nocturne whale]

Has a sqaure behind

Tentacle Grouccy Friend

A father like boss

[uneven tendon]

[nocturne whale]

[nocturne whale]

lol

[spring wharf]

is go beyond a music reference

[olive bobcat]

yes

to go beyond by enya is the most likely reference

[edgy tiger]

Till next month then

[minor ore]

ok so joshu is a jojo

[olive bobcat]

huh

[rocky charm]

!w Higashikata Joshu

[minor ore]

since there is somehow a jo in higishikata and his name is joshu

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/Joshu_Higashikata

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

Joshu Higashikata

Joshu Higashikata (東方 常秀, Higashikata Jōshū) is a side character featured in the eighth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJolion.

[rocky charm]

Thank you Janet

[rocky charm]

There is no Jo in Higashikata

It's the "Suke"

[minor ore]

oh nice

i didn't know that

[rocky charm]

And the Shu can't be read as Jo

[barren bough]

tbh, i genuinely think if Josuke were to have more training with S&W:GB, he'd have a genuine chance at beating D4C:LT

[minor ore]

yeah since the spin is strong against jesus light beams

[runic adder]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[winter spade]

Technically that means josuke is the only jojo to have jojo in his actual name

Instead of it being a combination of the first and last names

[rocky charm]

Jonathan Joestar, Joseph Joestar, Giorno Giovanna, and Johnny Joestar all just use the first syllable of each word

Jolyne Cujoh is weird because it's the first and last syllable of her name

But Jotaro is the MOST Jojo

Kujo Jotaro

It's right there as you say his name

[minor ore]

he's a jojo only in japan

[lucid locust]

Doesn’t Gappy’s Josuke use different kanji meaning he technically doesn’t have a second Jo in his name or have I been misinformed

[sudden nymph]

I’m more upset with the actual death itself it doesn’t really make sense

[true ore]

im upset bout rais death

[junior coral]

the "suke" in both Josukes are different yes

[gritty mauve]

does anyone have an idea when jojolion is gonna end

[hard meteor]

Nope

[minor ore]

When tooru dies

[junior coral]

Nope

You really think all of the mysteries that have been presented to us that are still unanswered are just gonna be forgotten about when Tooru dies

[runic adder]

yes

[hard meteor]

Imagine lol

Multiple plot holes just never get addressed

[runic adder]

caato leaves tooru on the ground to die
part 8-fin

[runic adder]

cant wait for the bookseller mark to just never show up again

[true walrus]

never was a plot point

[edgy tiger]

What benefit would Kaato have for saving Tooru

Hope she doesn’t do anything stupid like that

[rocky charm]

Yeah, what D said

[edgy tiger]

If she wants to use equivalent exchange to save her husband/son then at least use it on someone with no holes in their body

[fleet river]

where exactly did jojo became a seinen?

[runic adder]

steel ball run, about 30 chapters in

im gonna make an estimate and say it was chapter 34 that it switched

[rocky charm]

!w SBR 34

[mental ridge]

https://jojowiki.com/SBR_Chapter_34
Not the correct result? Use !w page SBR 34 for a direct link or !w search SBR 34 for a list of all hits.

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia - JoJo Wiki

*Steel Ball Run* - Chapter 34

A Real Man's World, Part 2 (男の世界 その②, Otoko no Sekai Sono 2), originally Little Tomb on the Prairie, Part 2 (大草原の小さな墓標②, Dai Sōgen no Chīsana Bohyō 2) in the UJ release, is the thirty-fourth chapter of Steel Ball Run and the seven hundred eighty-sixth chapter of the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure manga.

[rocky charm]

Thank you Janet

24 was the first in Ultra Jump

April 2005

[runic adder]

so close

[junior coral]

!w SBR Chapter 24

[rocky charm]

taking a while

[junior coral]

wth

[rocky charm]

Apparently Discord is experiencing some issues rn

Bot must be collateral damage

[junior coral]

darn

So it looks like the last WSJ and UJ chapters are only a month apart

actually one day less than a month

but still

[fleet river]

hmh seems like the art didn't change immediately there

[junior coral]

it was chapter 24 not 34

[fleet river]

i replied to the wrong comment

[runic adder]

still got one digit right

[lean niche]

Where do you guys read colored jojolion manga? I'm reading on manganelo right now but the colored chapters only last until 59

[fleet river]

https://mega.nz/folder/KSRhXIRS#-HIg-SBOhGbP6Ej-aBnmbw

[winter spade]

You can download B&W individual volumes from here https://hiwamatanoboru.com////release-archive/jojolion/

[rocky charm]

Yeah, colored translation team stopped working a long while back

[edgy tiger]

Mangahasu has up to chapter 74 in coloured

http://mangahasu.se/jojos-bizarre-adventure-part-8---jojolion-official-colored-p41078.html

Watch out for the stupid ads tho

[runic adder]

adblocker

[hard meteor]

[lofty quail]

hello fellas >:)

tell me, who's your favorite JJL character?

why's that?

if I may ask

ahh oke

doggystyle is one of my favorite stands, even though it's pretty similar to stone free.

[winter spade]

I mean similar in concept but way different in execution

It’s much more integrated with rai’s movements

[sudden nymph]

Should I make a GioGio chat tierlist

[primal dagger]

Sure

[wind scroll]

I respect Tooru’s design and all but when you really look at him, he doesn’t really look like a villain

At least compared to the other main villains

[rocky charm]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-anime-serious-look-up-gif-12447667

Does this guy look like a villain

[primal lintel]

^

he doesn't fit the classical villanious look

do any of the minor villains look like villains

[rugged sun]

i think diavolo looks villianous

[primal lintel]

but yea the colors do throw me off tho

[primal lintel]

fair enough

[wind scroll]

Not really but as Kosaku

yes

[rocky charm]

A lot of them do, like all of them in Parts 1 and 2, Terunosuke, Damo, Oyecomova, and Risotto off the top of my head

[rocky charm]

https://tenor.com/view/part4-jojo-jojos-bizarre-adventure-kira-kira-yoshikage-gif-14453363

[wind scroll]

h a y a t o

[rugged sun]

h a y a t o

[hard meteor]

hayato

[torn ingot]

there are some things. some photos you can just hear

https://tenor.com/view/hi-justin-justin-hello-justin-gif-21002071

[nocturne whale]

HA YATO

[junior coral]

he's hot

she's hot

HE IS HOT

[edgy tiger]

Papa Meraaaryaryaaaaa

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojolion-speed-king-barriage-joubin-gif-19382980

[junior coral]

daddy

??

how did they think that was explicit

Anyway Yasuho in a black shirt 😭😭

[primal lintel]

man the art in jjl is definitely super pretty

cover colors are absolutely beautiful, probably better than sbr imo

that hurts me, but hey, each part does have its highs and lows

[junior coral]

oh absolutely better than SBR

[zenith tangle]

Gorgeous art

[nocturne whale]

And wet

[zenith tangle]

Bet

[nocturne whale]

[left ferry]

More like dry and hot.

[primal lintel]

i would forgive you for stanning mountain tim but you've also got childe in your pfp

[left ferry]

I'm only a stan for the hot cowboy part man, the pedo part stays disgusting even as a stan.

[primal lintel]

yea, i figured

it would be a really big problem if the whole pedo part was also included

[golden latch]

Lol what

Who we talking about

Mountain tim?

[left ferry]

Yeah.

[golden latch]

Damn

[junior coral]

Mountain Tim isn't a pedo because he says he'd protect Lucy

[golden latch]

Stanning a pedo tsk tsk

[primal lintel]

i dont remember who posted this but it is always at the forefront of my mind

[left ferry]

Let's face it, he is a pedo. Him giving Lucy flowers when they first met, the suggestion of him running away with Lucy was a big cringe moment.

[primal lintel]

and the fact that lucy is married

no means no, aight

[left ferry]

Well, at least the man stopped and didn't do a funny valentine.

[junior coral]

Bruh

[golden latch]

Something that always bothered me is how he called his stand a stand

Like stands were originally named because they stand behind the user

But neither his nor any other stand in sbr stands behind the user

[junior coral]

true

[golden latch]

So why/how did he come up with this name

[junior coral]

fate

[left ferry]

He basically stood up in the face of the devil's palm or something like that.

[hearty flower]

who is tim

[teal brook]

Oh remember, the giant Mountain? That's who he was

[hearty flower]

oh ok

hi tim

[teal brook]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-mountain-gif-6200016

there he is, say hello!

[hearty flower]

hi

[summer nova]

caato sus

[edgy tiger]

She leng so she gets a pass

[summer nova]

leng?

[hearty flower]

leng

[minor ore]

What is caato even going to do lol

Calamity still works

She cant kill tooru

[teal brook]

she's gonna throw cards and uhhh yes 🗿

[junior coral]

She had invisible cards not from this world

[teal brook]

I don't remember anything about her, I was honestly surprised to see her again tbh lmao

[true ore]

i hope kaato has rock insects in the cards

[teal brook]

lmao

[true ore]

Rock insect ova when?

like d7 hair clip and obladi oblada

they all have so much character and plot that could be expanded on

[sudden nymph]

Just wait until Tooru’s bears are revealed to be rock insects

That’s when we get the ova

I’m betting on it

[true ore]

yes lets go

[minor ore]

They have twin crazy diamonds

They heal tooru, joshu and fix the house

watch as jobin's whole bug collection just turns out to be rock insects

[uneven tendon]

What if Jobin actually got the beetles from Tooru, and he killed Kobin to take them back

[cosmic finch]

Who kobin?

[teal brook]

I am Kobin, how may I help you?

[uneven tendon]

What's up Kobin?

[teal brook]

lmfao

[chilly shard]

Less goooo

[white pasture]

Jooru or Tobin

[minor ore]

both are valid

[uneven tendon]

What about Noritooru?

Toorusuke

[minor ore]

hey this patch of snow looks a bit odd

shut up

literally shut up

[minor ore]

https://twitter.com/mono_art800/status/1383912431374589959

MONO ✪ (@mono_art800)

Tooru - L O G I C
#jojolion #jojolion106 #ジョジョリオン

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Twitter · Apr 18, 2021, 10:36 PM

[foggy furnace]

owonder of youwu

[uneven tendon]

[dreamy marsh]

guys...

[uneven tendon]

[hybrid moth]

4 testicles

[uneven tendon]

2 bitches pursuing

[foggy gulch]

Beaches and shores

[minor ore]

Picture this

[stark ocean]

hello

[minor ore]

a whole chapter about stag beetles fighting

[uneven tendon]

Does anyone agree that the Wonder of U arc is the most hopeless in Jojo?

[minor ore]

I like how everyone sends memes and art here
But mods don't say anything
Probably the coolest channel

Ko

[nocturne whale]

[nocturne whale]

No

[hearty flower]

lol adachi tooru

[minor ore]

Good news everyone

Araki can draw dogs

no he cant

lol

Wait

That was literally a picture of Norisuke with the dog

and discord autoblocked it

[hearty flower]

Thanks discord...

[minor ore]

I shit you not, I literally just clipped the bit where Iwasuke and Norisuke is

[edgy tiger]

Crazy how Kaato is that hot at like 50

[minor ore]

ROKC HUMAINE???

proof

[runic adder]

the power of hamon

[minor ore]

The power of Tokyo's tap water

[edgy tiger]

Nah Japan’s prison system was treating her right

They probably hired Chef Tonio too

[uneven tendon]

Joshu sitting there like a king

[hearty flower]

Caato is rog

[uneven tendon]

And Tsurugi looks adorable with that hat

Caato is very attractive, but she is a hoe

Loves bros like Hato, Yasuho and Kei

[minor ore]

I just realised something

What on earth happened to the beanie baby?

[uneven tendon]

From chapter 22?

[minor ore]

Yeah

[uneven tendon]

We don't know

[minor ore]

I pray they don't forget about him

[hearty flower]

What

[minor ore]

beanie baby

you mean drip baby

[uneven tendon]

Well he didn't matter that much in the first place, but I think Araki will touch on that baby soon

[minor ore]

poor choice of words.

[hearty flower]

WHO IS BEANIE

[barren bough]

beenie bitch

[minor ore]

I used to think that "Oh he's got the same hat as Aisho so maybe he grew up to be him"

it could have been tooru

But no jewellery

but 99 happened

[uneven tendon]

Yeah you're right, it sounds bad

[minor ore]

Yeah 99 throws Tooru out the window

and 106 INTO the window

[uneven tendon]

Araki will probably give us at least some info on that baby

Though the focus he got in the first place was odd

[minor ore]

That and the mystery man

is that da baby

[uneven tendon]

Also, can we get rid of the timer?

[minor ore]

Which I'm fairly certain is Damo at this point, but Araki didn't stick to the original design

[uneven tendon]

Chat is not that fast paced

I think mystery man might've been an early design for Josefumi tbh

[hearty flower]

It is when new chapters happen

This time they just didn’t remove it

[minor ore]

Also a theory I started is gaining traction

I am proud

[runic adder]

if that was the case then araki would have included a line to let us know mystery man was damo

[uneven tendon]

@minor ore

[runic adder]

josuke would have said something about knowing damo, if it was just a retcon

[minor ore]

lesss go

[minor ore]

Yeah that's the thing that keeps me hoping

[uneven tendon]

If it was Damo, then his redesign was much better than his original design

[runic adder]

DaOzone Baby

[runic adder]

definitely

mystery man looks sick but damo just has superior drip

[runic adder]

yea dw mystery man will show up someday

[minor ore]

Lol imagine if it's Josefumi's dad

[uneven tendon]

Unlikely

[runic adder]

interesting

[patent merlin]

It's your dad

[runic adder]

josefumi hasnt seen his dad as an adult tho

and it was either kira or josuke that saw the mystery man

not josefumi

its debated whether or not josuke was the person that met mystery man

cuz that opens a whole new can of worms

[uneven tendon]

Maybe mystery man was actually adult Tsurugi?

[minor ore]

It wouldn't have been Josuke because he wouldn't have any time to do that, right?

[uneven tendon]

A glimpse into the future

[runic adder]

why would tsurugi have light hair

[uneven tendon]

Dyed it

[runic adder]

we dont know

[minor ore]

I mean, unless Josuke lied about just waking up, which just makes him more unlikable

[uneven tendon]

Guys, what if mystery man is Tooru's father?

[minor ore]

That would be interesting

What do you guys think of the Karera is a rock human theory?

[uneven tendon]

Dumb

[runic adder]

since it appears to be josuke thats the easiest answer, unless its supposed to be kira but just artistic choice to disguise him as josuke for the readers

and josuke has amnesia, its possible the amnesia wasnt caused by the wall eyes but perhaps something before it

so he somehow met mystery man inside of the wall eyes

[runic adder]

doesnt make much sense

[minor ore]

It's also entirely possible that Josuke is misremembering things

[runic adder]

how does one misremember a person we've never seen before

and again, this all would have been touched upon if the mystery man was supposed to be damo

[uneven tendon]

Guys, I have another theory on who mystery man is

[runic adder]

unless araki really just forgot entirely and is a shit writer

[runic adder]

cool

[runic adder]

hmmm

you think hes...related to rai?

[uneven tendon]

I do

[minor ore]

Honestly

[minor ore]

stfu

I think Rai is a Zeppeli

[runic adder]

but why would a relative of rai's visit josuke?

[uneven tendon]

No, why would he know Josefumi?

[runic adder]

what?

thats not josefumi in the pic

josuke/kira is the one meeting the mystery man

[willow crystal]

It’s a MHA Reference 😂

[hearty flower]

Does wonder of u have an official color yet? Isn’t he red?

[minor ore]

the memory is josukes, this is either something that happened after the fusion and before josuke woke up again, or its a vision

[uneven tendon]

I have another theory on who mystery man is

[minor ore]

yes

Isn't it weird how Josefumi's body makes up most of Josuke yet he wakes up in Kira's clothes?

[uneven tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/834391458408431667/Flashback.png

[hearty flower]

God that color is so ugly

[runic adder]

it is possible its an artistic decision to make us think its josuke, but kira was introduced in the next chapter

[hearty flower]

When is that from

[runic adder]

so i think its unlikely

[uneven tendon]

Guys, maybe mystery man was actually Lucy Steel's son?

[minor ore]

looks fine to me

[runic adder]

a lot of people think it resembles jobin/norisuke

[minor ore]

It's 100% not Jobin

[runic adder]

jobin norisuke fusion has been a theory for a while

i very much doubt it

[uneven tendon]

Red suit Wonder of U is very cringe

[minor ore]

Remember that Jobin's initial design looked nothing like Mystery man

and he was in the same chapter as the family introduction

[runic adder]

ugh im like, disappointed in wou but fine with it but im mad they didnt try to do anything with D7

just slapped some boring wood color onto it

[hearty flower]

All I have seen is when he was not in witch doctor form and it looked really bad
I think that looks alright but him being more metallic with brass and silver coloring would look better I think.

[runic adder]

true

[hearty flower]

Lol witch doctor

Good phone

[minor ore]

whats this about

[runic adder]

who did she get a call from?

[minor ore]

also just to bring this back up
I think it's POSSIBLE for Karera to be a rock human but not part of the company

[hearty flower]

Then looking for the origin of the fruit

[minor ore]

I think they mean the stadium bit

[runic adder]

the morioh stadium is where jobin met the rock humans right?

[runic adder]

yea probs

[uneven tendon]

BTW guys, do you think Kira would be able to defeat D4C?

[minor ore]

and tsurugi says later "i cant go to the stadium alone, i need josuke"

no

[runic adder]

and he never goes to the stadium lol

interesting

probably just a scrapped idea for...aphex brothers? idk

[uneven tendon]

Remember when Araki forgot Daiya was evil, and now she is an innocent cute girl?

[minor ore]

it was mentioned twice and visited at least once, but from jobin

[runic adder]

ye

would be so cool to have a showdown in the stadium

[minor ore]

Nah, Daiya was just subconsciously into 4th cousins

[runic adder]

but i doubt thats gonna happen with the hospital/higashikata showdown

[minor ore]

obsessively so

[minor ore]

no, this seems way more important, because tsurugi mentions it twice and that is very important

it seems like something that will be solved

[runic adder]

interesting

[minor ore]

very soon

[runic adder]

well i dont think the stadium itself holds much value?

like what could it realistically answer

the rock humans dont own the stadium do they?

[minor ore]

we dont know

So what have we got so far?
Caato
Mystery Man
Mystery BABY
Stadium

Those are the 4 threads Araki has to solve

[runic adder]

aisho works as a security guard there iirc

[runic adder]

bookseller mark

rock disease

rokakaka origins

meditation pine

wall eyes

i feel like some of these can be left ambiguous

but a lot of them should be answered

also tooru's backstory

[minor ore]

Rokakaka has already been answered

same with Tooru's backstory

[runic adder]

origins
"new guinea" isnt much to work with

[uneven tendon]

What the marks on Obladi Oblada mean

[runic adder]

toorus backstory is literally just him emerging from the hive

[uneven tendon]

Nah there's still stuff we don't know about his backstory, like the formation of the Locacaca organization

Why he targeted the Mamezuku orchard

[minor ore]

New Guinea was chosen solely because it's the most unexplored place of the modern world
It makes sense for there to be little known about it

[runic adder]

ooh yea mamezuku orchard too

forgot that part

[uneven tendon]

What is the nature of his relationship with Yasuho

[minor ore]

Yeah that's a fair point

[minor ore]

animal footprints

[uneven tendon]

Chapter 102 gave us info on that, but we don't fully know

[runic adder]

yea i guess rokakaka origins could be left ambiguous like i said

out of all the mysteries thats the least pressing one

[minor ore]

Oh as for the Yasuho thing
I think he saw that she was friends with Joshu and saw it as an opportunity to get closer to the orchard

[uneven tendon]

Joshu?

He was like 2 years old when that happened

[runic adder]

well nothing is confirmed until we see his relationship with yasuho

[minor ore]

Remember that he and Yasuho were childhood friends?

[uneven tendon]

Tooru met Yasuho 10 years ago

[runic adder]

and why they broke up

[uneven tendon]

I think out of the 3 rock human relationships we saw so far in Jojolion, Tooru is the most interesting in that regard

[runic adder]

yea definitely

[minor ore]

But I'm saying that Yasuho and Tooru met again later and started dating AFTER Joshu and Yasuho had a friendship

[runic adder]

wait 3 relationships? we just saw aisho, tooru, and?

damo?

[minor ore]

Dolomite

[uneven tendon]

Because while he does like Yasuho to an extent and cherished his memories with her, he still tried to kill her because of his plans

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ohhh dolomite

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Yeah, Dolomite

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forgot he existed

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Dolomite should come back tbh

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i think thats less about their relationship and more just toorus personality

tooru wont stop for anyone to achieve his goal

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The goal of meeting Bill Gates

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Mhm. I think he was just using her to get closer to the orchard via the Higashikatas but got attached to her

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But he didn't MEET Yasuho when he attacked the Mamezuku orchard

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can someone find a higher qual

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why didnt he try to use hato if that was the case

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did you get this one from the pins?

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yes

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dang

then yea idk where to get higher quality

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When Rai's dad died, he was like 17, and Mamezuku was 31

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Probably was more convenient at the time due to his appearance

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31-17=14

And Yasuho and Tooru first met 10 years ago

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eh?

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It doesn't line up

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yasuho and tooru met at a different time than when rais orchard was attacked

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what doesnt line up

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they did not happen in the same year

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The form Wonder of U takes probably already looked like an old man

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yes

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That’s why he needed to steal Akefu Satoru’s identity later

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tooru just wanted an old man that fie the description

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That Tooru meeting Yasuho had something to do with him targeting the Mamezuku family orchard

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I don’t think Wonder of U can just turn into any old man he wants

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@minor ore

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thanks

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Wonder of U: can turn into every single old man ever

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I'm saying Tooru ages really slowly appearance-wise, so perhaps Haato looked too old for him
Or perhaps he grew attached to Yasuho due to helping him out with Akefu

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noo

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So it also turns into Joseph

Joseph is finally the villain, forshadowed by Araki in the end of part 3

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tooru was seeking out potential

he saw paisley park

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Hato is like 24 though

She's only 5 years older than Yasuho