jojolion

[formal jetty]

😔

That is my big complain with p8 till now

It changes too many things

I hope it actually gets better at that

[formal jetty]

Does it?

[old marlin]

No

Speaking for Araki he probably stopped using plunder because he wanted to keep it more simple and in line with regular Jojo escalation

The bubbles remain tho and as much as I'd like the ability to make a return they've been used really well throughout the part

no main villain
tooru

Thanks Araki

Tooru obv aint running the business behind Rokakaka research but there's no way JJL's gonna continue after this fight like with Damo

[formal jetty]

Tooru?

[old marlin]

My bad I didn't read that uou weren't caught up

[formal jetty]

Before ch67 or after?

Oh

Np

[barren bough]

i mean it is pretty obvious JJL is in its end game

[old marlin]

Exactly, what I was getting at is if people try to say Tooru ain't the main villain at this point they're just wrong

Jobin getting sidelined is the worst but oh well

[hard meteor]

what are you talking about,its absolutely gonna continue after this fight,theres an entire ongoing plotline that hasn't been resolved yet and way to many mysteries in the part that haven't been answered yet

[runic adder]

Bruh do people really think caato and mystery man have no significance

And that jojolion would really end so unsatisfying?

[minor ore]

We still don't know what the plane door is for

[runic adder]

yes we do

its a calamity

we dont know what will happen(i doubt yasuho will die, or joshu)

[minor ore]

Yes but what's going to happen? Will it hit yasuho or Tooru?,

Man I don't want yasuho to die

[runic adder]

why tooru

[minor ore]

Sorry joshu*

[runic adder]

i really dont think she will, shes the narrator and all

[hard meteor]

Most likely tooru,or the plane door misses entirely

[minor ore]

I honestly had a stroke when joubin almost flushed her down the toilet

[runic adder]

or nkc is actually useful for once

[minor ore]

ALSO PLEASE BRING JOBIN BACK

[runic adder]

haha that was making me panic as well

when she lost an arm i was like wtf

[minor ore]

Yeah when she was snatched Joshu's hand... Most satisfying shut ever

Shit*

[runic adder]

joshu was hilarious the whole time

he was just punching himself and trying to redeem himself

and the idiot somehow messes it up by wanting to reverse it

[minor ore]

At this point he cannot redeem himself. Honestly he is disgusting

[lost slate]

Unfortunately, Jobin's dead now

[runic adder]

yea i doubt he will be redeemed

which is what makes his character so great

hes just a comic character, i dont think that will change

if he got redeemed he couldnt be one of the best higashikatas anymore

[minor ore]

He could have been a better main villain than tooru

[minor ore]

Actually yeah. I agree

[runic adder]

theres still the chance hes alive

i think overall hes a better villain than tooru but tooru has an insanely good story arc

a fight between jobin and josuke wouldnt be super interesting

[near cedar]

It'll hit Iwasuke

[runic adder]

it would never

iwasuke will never die

[minor ore]

I hope it does

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[minor ore]

Ugly dog

[near cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[runic adder]

bruh wtf

you arent cool anymore

iwasuke slander is not tolerated in this server

[minor ore]

Okay now that we have come to josuke
I just want to say I don't understand his new ability

Huh

[near cedar]

Spin go brrr

[runic adder]

understandable

if you dont want to know the complications of it

[minor ore]

Dogs in JoJos always die so I stopped getting attached to them

Isn't it above knowledge right gappys bubbles

[runic adder]

josuke cant control the bubble, its essentially shooting out mini-cream(the stand) and can explode
its like a stray cat almost

[runic adder]

its above logic yea

cuz its a paradox

[minor ore]

So can it beat ger?

[runic adder]

its infinitely thin and doesnt exist yet can still affect things

[runic adder]

we have no idea

but most likely

[near cedar]

GER is above logic

[runic adder]

yea but iwasuke isnt a normal dog

[minor ore]

Oh

[near cedar]

At least to me

Cuz like GER resets shit even tho it doesn't actually turn back time

[minor ore]

But what does mamezuku mean by "its ability can go further reality "

[near cedar]

No idea

Yet

[runic adder]

because it transcends logic

for all we know, its just a bubble hopping in and out of existence

because this bubble is so mysterious

[minor ore]

Also mamezuku was literally the best character. Rip

[runic adder]

i have no doubt we will know more about it soon

[runic adder]

yea his death was sad

so quick as well

[minor ore]

So it's not properly explained yet?

[runic adder]

its like, 3/4 explained

[minor ore]

Thank god I thought I was being stupid

[runic adder]

its still confusing, even to the characters

and i really feel like there needs to be some explanation with rai, like how tf did he immediately know how the bubbles work

[minor ore]

Yeah like a lot is going on. Then there's Tooru like "GIVE ME THE PLANT YASUHO". Where he can go around and take it himself lol

[runic adder]

even if he was a zeppeli and all(which is still a big if) its hard to imagine he knows exactly how the bubble works

[hard meteor]

yeah we need some answers regarding rai

[runic adder]

rai is like, 70% chance a zeppeli

[minor ore]

His backstory seemed rushed too

[runic adder]

i mean, his backstory was given twice

so unless the orchard was ransacked twice, it was retconned

[minor ore]

But still felt incomplete

[runic adder]

because more of it will be explained lol

the mystery of jjl isnt finished

rai's backstory was "Complete" when he first gave it, in chapter 70-something

but with WOU, we have to know why the rock insects attacked the orchard

even if rais a zeppeli, why would the rock humans attack zeppelis

spin isnt like hamon where its fatal to rock humans

so i dont think rai is fully done, more will be explained after his death

[near cedar]

I mean technically spin is fatal to anyone if used for attacks ;p

[minor ore]

There's a theory that rai can be a zeppeli???

[runic adder]

"lungs are vital for hamon users"

[runic adder]

yea, he mentions the spin

[minor ore]

....now that I think about it he does have the zeppeli traits

[runic adder]

he died

thats a pretty zeppeli trait

[minor ore]

The deaths were so fast
What about kyo

[runic adder]

good thing he wasnt immediately introduced as a zeppeli, thats a major death flag

[runic adder]

yea it feels so fast

i want to believe theres something more to the deaths

but like, hot pants also happened

araki has killed minor characters off in mere panels without a second thought before

[minor ore]

I have a feeling we will have another fucked up ending to this.

[runic adder]

i think the whole WOU arc will end in the next 2-3 chapters

we know it ends before the harvest at least

[minor ore]

I like how he just kills of characters like they meant nothing. Since ceaser actually. Right after they die the other characters seem to have forgotten them

Hate*

[near cedar]

Kakyoin Zeppeli confirmbeded?!

[runic adder]

confirmebeded indeed

[near cedar]

There now I can't fail to read sarcasm cuz I'm the one that did it xD

[minor ore]

Nah he just some milf

[runic adder]

yea i dislike it but a lot of characters do get just deaths

[minor ore]

Hunter

[runic adder]

its just some characters get really crappy deaths

[near cedar]

He isn't

That meme is bad

[runic adder]

eriksonn, master sarcasm detector

[runic adder]

ofc it is its a jojo meme

[near cedar]

There's a few that are funny

[runic adder]

yea, most of em are manga memes tho

[near cedar]

And then the ones that are beaten to death

[runic adder]

every animated part has jokes beaten to death

[near cedar]

And their corpses are paraded around

As if it's the "funnies shit i ever seen"

[runic adder]

i hate like half of r/shitpostcrusaders with a passion

i never want to see OI JOSUKE again

[near cedar]

Oi Josuke, this meme is dead, please stop, let it die

[runic adder]

we need to redo OI JOSUKE, but with rai instead

[near cedar]

XD

Oi Josuke I just dropped your gf off the lift so she can be bait

Ain't that neat

[runic adder]

oi josuke the death order is switching to me-oh no those bubbles are getting close

[near cedar]

Why don't you peruse some bitches instead

Or however that goes

[runic adder]

insert wonder of u with drip image here

[near cedar]

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to post my friend's drip emote

[runic adder]

i just have an emote of that guy from breaking bad falling down but he looks like wou

unfortunately nitros run dry for me

[runic adder]

call me wonder of u
cuz these bitches cant stop pursuing me 💯

[near cedar]

And the bitches are all Yanderes

[runic adder]

oh no

i dont want that

i dont get the love for yanderes

why would someone want a mentally deranged girlfriend

people like that dont even exist ffs

[near cedar]

People like that exist

The yandere I mean

[runic adder]

yea and they should get therapy

[near cedar]

True

[runic adder]

theres a girl at my school that tries to act "yandere" or some shit like that

its just so cringey

[near cedar]

How's she do that

[runic adder]

idefk

shes like 13

[minor ore]

yanderes are literal psychopaths

[runic adder]

but massively obsessed with anime

[glossy wedge]

wth why do all these people look the same and have the same name, weird

[runic adder]

yes exactly

[minor ore]

how do you even act like a yandere without breaking the law

[runic adder]

they shouldnt be idolized at all

[minor ore]

“ganders” autocorrect be like

[runic adder]

lmao ganders

[near cedar]

Not all of em brake the law I don't think

[minor ore]

either way it’s still being a psychopath

[runic adder]

you dont have to kill people or something but you're still incredibly toxic to be a yandere

[near cedar]

JoJo sets a foundation for modern Yandere
Also JoJo has a pretty damn tame Yandere in comparison to other ones that exist

[minor ore]

“hm yes I will act like yukako from jojo’s bizzare adventure I will be very likeable”

yukako was one of the first ever yanderes iirc

[runic adder]

im still mad that koichi chose to be with a girl that fucking kidnapped him and tortured him

[minor ore]

exactly

[near cedar]

Meh

[minor ore]

she did get better but like

she was gonna put him on an electric chair

[runic adder]

she didnt really do anything to get better
she just...got better suddenly

she did a complete 180 lmao

[barren bough]

koichi the simp

[runic adder]

yukako's the simp in this situation

[minor ore]

yukako is the simp here

legit kidnaps koichi to be with him

[near cedar]

She did get better, stopped trying to kidnap him

[runic adder]

yea but she decided to do a 180 and not be a mentally insane person

[wet bear]

Atleast it developed into a healthy relationship

[kind owl]

@wet bear, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[runic adder]

like she just got immediately better because she got beat up by koichi

i mean, she didnt really get beat up

[minor ore]

imagine koichi was the same height as yukako

[near cedar]

Also she does actually love him, like almost every other yandere, they just can't do that normally for whatever reason

[near cedar]

She didn't, she was still crazy

[minor ore]

weird how JJL version of yukako isn’t a complete and utter psycho

[wet bear]

How tall is Yukako

[near cedar]

Just decided to make sure to make Koichi not hate her

[runic adder]

i wouldnt count yandere as real love

[minor ore]

however

love love deluxe

[runic adder]

karera is pretty cool

[minor ore]

why is that her stands name

[near cedar]

It is, most of the time

[minor ore]

love love deluxe
like araki was not trying with that one

[runic adder]

yukako is only like 10 cm taller than koichi

[minor ore]

canonically

[near cedar]

Just very very fucked up

[minor ore]

in the manga and anime she’s drawn so much taller

[runic adder]

i think so?

because koichi is exaggerated for effect

he is the height of a toddler

in actuality hes not that short

[minor ore]

like koichi is actually just below average height

[runic adder]

yea but like, they dont really care about the persons feelings at all

[minor ore]

he’s the same height as Levi

[runic adder]

they just have an obsessive desire to be with them

[runic adder]

lol

[minor ore]

Wait we talking about Danganronpa now?

Cool

[runic adder]

no

[minor ore]

I saw kokichi and flipped

[near cedar]

Yes

Usually cuz that person is the only one who showed em kindness at least in all the stuff I've watched

[runic adder]

you've developed an expert knowledge of the human psyche from anime

im impressed

[near cedar]

not sarcasm?

[runic adder]

sarcasm levels off the charts

[minor ore]

That is some high level respect though

[pure creek]

🍆💦
___

[kind owl]

@glossy wedge, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

Genius

[golden latch]

The movie gave him his actual height, right?

[runic adder]

the live action?

[supple totem]

Hey. It's me that claims myst man is kira

People say that myst man looks nothing like kira

[serene hazel]

hello im new to jojos i want to start the anime but in what order the sites are confusing can u tell me

im sooooo confused

[zenith blaze]

The order of the channel names

[supple totem]

You can watch all on kiss anime

[hard meteor]

Cause he doesn’t

[serene hazel]

ik but i watcn in animedao

tell me

[supple totem]

He doesnt but i still think myst man is kira.
Remember how anasui used to be a girl??

Or trans

[serene hazel]

ora ora ora ora

muda muda muda muda

tel me tel me tel me

[hard meteor]

he wasnt either of those things it was just a design that araki scrapped AND his newer design came way later into the story

[exotic rune]

Annasui had a bust though🐼

[serene hazel]

telllll me please

y no one help

[supple totem]

Its prob same case with myst man

[hard meteor]

kira appears literally the next chapter after flashback man

[exotic rune]

u need sites?

[hard meteor]

theres no way araki completely redesigned him in a months legth

it wouldnt make any sense

[supple totem]

Explain why gappy is looking at myst man in his flashback

And not josephumi or kira

[serene hazel]

noo i need the order to watch

[exotic rune]

oki

[kind owl]

@exotic rune, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[serene hazel]

what is Hamon

[exotic rune]

you'll know

[supple totem]

I think ive argued about myst man about 4 times on this channel lol

[serene hazel]

okie dokie

[serene hazel]

wel..

[serene hazel]

y cut tat 2

[kind owl]

@serene hazel, Your Hamon Rank is now level 1 !

[hard meteor]

you realize this is my favor of my point right,josuke sees mystery man because its AFTER josufumi and kira died,keep in my mind kira was already dead and buried under josuke

or

its some sort of spirit vision

[sudden nymph]

They are the ova’s they are basically a worse version on stardust crusaders it’s the same story just with different animation

[hard meteor]

either it is not an early kira design

[supple totem]

Gappy didnt exist when he talked to myst man. Kira and josephumi was both underground

[exotic rune]

1.Phantom blood(usually part 2 is included in it if u r watching from anime sites)
2>stardust crusaders
3.Diamond is unbreakable
4.Golden wind

[serene hazel]

thx my friends

[supple totem]

Gappys first saw the sky when yasuo pulled him up

[serene hazel]

time to ora ora and muda muda

[supple totem]

So either myst man dug gappy up and burried him again

Or

Araki did an oopsie

As a normal human being sometimes does

[sudden nymph]

Tomorrow is the day

[supple totem]

Brb gotta eat

[hard meteor]

what,the man in the vision is clearly josuke you can tell by the hat,hes been under the wall eyes for 3 days in universe so its defiently possible flashback man could've seen or if he didn't see him he could've appeared as a vision

[sudden nymph]

Where is my Joshu milagro man ova

[serene hazel]

hm where can i get free manga

[supple totem]

We will know the truth when jojolion ends

[sudden nymph]

@hard meteor what’s the site again I forgot

[supple totem]

I mean i wouldt complain if araki brought him back

[hard meteor]

mangasee,mangaenlo

[supple totem]

But for now i stick to my believes

[zenith blaze]

https://manganelo.tv

[serene hazel]

ok!! thx

[sudden nymph]

Manganelo has extremely inappropriate ads btw

Like most manga sites have inappropriate ads

But they are another level

But if you don’t care about that go ahead

[zenith blaze]

Not that bad

[supple totem]

[hard meteor]

chapter 5

chapter 6

this guy is not kira lol

[supple totem]

Well hes not coming back

[hard meteor]

how do you know

[sudden nymph]

Also if mystery man was Kira Gappy would have recognized him once he saw Kira in the picture

[supple totem]

How do u know hes not an early version

[hard meteor]

multiple obvious reasons

[supple totem]

Well i also have reasons to believe why he is so

And i have stated them

[hard meteor]

1. josuke would've recognized him in the next chapter which he doesnt

2.He looks NOTHING like kira

[supple totem]

Then why did gappy and not josephumi see him

[near cedar]

wtf is the order on that site lol

[hard meteor]

3. the flashback was from josukes pov kira wouldve already been dead

and buried under him

[supple totem]

So if he already was burried

[sudden nymph]

Oh yeah it can’t be Kira since Gappy is there

[supple totem]

How could he see him

[near cedar]

wut

[sudden nymph]

This guy is trying to argue mystery man is early Kira

[near cedar]

If he was Gappy would recognise him

[supple totem]

Araki did oops. But good point

[hard meteor]

its not an "oops"

[supple totem]

It is oops

[sudden nymph]

Bruh that’s not a good point

[hard meteor]

its tWo different people

[supple totem]

U just said ur own point wasnt a good point

[sudden nymph]

No I’m talking about your it’s just a oops rebuttal

[minor ore]

Jojolion is such a mind frick. You except to tell me ||the main character is a combination of two dudes and one happens to be yoshikage Kira ||

[supple totem]

Araki has drobbed so many things in the past

[hard meteor]

like what

[supple totem]

Oh boy

Remember how golden experience had that ability

[near cedar]

Star finger, star suck, Life senses berserk because evedently that also works on stands cuz somebody posted a pic of him saying Black Sabbath is slowed

[supple totem]

Where if anyone hit its life creation the damage would go to them

[near cedar]

Damage reflection not being used cuz it wouldn't be interesting

That's all i can think of

[supple totem]

Remember how u needed to breathe to use ur stand

[zenith blaze]

Isn’t Kira jotoro

[hard meteor]

no

[supple totem]

Remember when josuke was buff

[near cedar]

...

Art style

[hard meteor]

what

[supple totem]

What else hmmm

[sudden nymph]

That wasn’t breathing Jotaro was staring to pass out that’s why

[hard meteor]

thats just an artsyle change lol

[near cedar]

changing art style is not a dropped concept

[supple totem]

Just explain to me how myst man could talk to two people underground

That was seen

[hard meteor]

He didn’t talk to two people?

[supple totem]

ON THE GROUND

[hard meteor]

He wasn’t talking to josuke at all

[near cedar]

What in the fuck

[hard meteor]

He just looked at him

[sudden nymph]

Wtf is myst man

[near cedar]

mystery man silly

[sudden nymph]

Oh

[supple totem]

u get the point metal

[near cedar]

your point makes no sense

He didn't talk

[hard meteor]

^

[sudden nymph]

You can’t use something that hasn’t been explained yet as a dropped plot point

[supple totem]

Well how tf did he look to prople that was fusing underground

Use ur head

[hard meteor]

What

[near cedar]

What two people

[hard meteor]

He looked at him after the fusion was already done

[supple totem]

Omg use ur head i said

[viral plume]

Kira and josefumi, I imagine

[sudden nymph]

Gappy wasn’t in the ground when Yasuho found him

[hard meteor]

Yes josuke wasn’t fully buried under the ground

[supple totem]

Kira and josephumi was fusing underground

[near cedar]

Wait wait wait

[supple totem]

HE WAS

[hard meteor]

No he wasn’t

Lol

[near cedar]

So if you are saying mystery man is an early Kira, and you are saying Kira and Fumi were fusing with him looking how in the fuck does that prove he's Kria?

[supple totem]

We litteraly see him submerged in ground in damo fight

Want proof???

[near cedar]

Yes

Prove mystery man submerged

[supple totem]

Dw ill find it for you

[sudden nymph]

Imo you can’t use anything from a unfinished story as a dropped plot point because it’s NOT FINISHED

[near cedar]

That is a fact

You can't say "this was dropped" when it could come back

Look at Kyo Kei

People said she was retconned

She came back

[hard meteor]

Very true

People are too quick to call any and everything retcons

Mystery man is just another example of a character we haven’t seen that will more than likely reappear

[near cedar]

what's your point with that image

[zenith blaze]

Uhh

[sudden nymph]

cough josefumi birthmark cough

[zenith blaze]

Kira is already the au of Kira but is he also an au of someone else

[sudden nymph]

What

[near cedar]

he's not Josuke

[supple totem]

Dont mind the adds

[hard meteor]

Ok

[zenith blaze]

Not talking about josuke

[hard meteor]

How does this prove anything

[near cedar]

Those are Kira and Josuke fusing underground yes

What's that prove

[supple totem]

If u remember our conversation

[zenith blaze]

Kira Is the son of holly so…

[near cedar]

i meant to say Jotaro, he's not

[supple totem]

I wanted to prove they are underground

[zenith blaze]

Hmmm

[supple totem]

Where its all dark

[near cedar]

Congradufuckinglations that doesn't prove Mystery man is early Kria

[supple totem]

Fully submerged

You cant proof hes not

You cant proof araki did an oops

[hard meteor]

Yes they where underground,but as you can see in chapter 1 josuke came back to the surface of the ground and 3 days passed by at that point

[supple totem]

Now can you

[near cedar]

Yes you are correct big lad, you have no proof Araki fucked up

[supple totem]

AND I HAVE NO PROOF HE DIDNT

Did he or not

Let me tell you

[sudden nymph]

Imagine saying anything in a story is a dropped plot point when the story isn’t even finished yet

[supple totem]

You dont know if he did

[near cedar]

He didn't

[supple totem]

I already told you it isnt certain

[sudden nymph]

Mystery man is early Kira
Proof: trust me bro

[supple totem]

While you believe your assumption is correct

[near cedar]

The assumption is correct

[sudden nymph]

Because your assumption doesn’t make any sense

[supple totem]

Myster man isnt early kira:
Proof: trust me idiot

[hard meteor]

No

[supple totem]

Then use ur brain to undetstand it

[near cedar]

We are

you aren't

[hard meteor]

The proof is that josuke doesn’t recognize him,he doesn’t look anything like Kira,and that he was buried under josuke

[near cedar]

He being Kria

In that sentence

[sudden nymph]

Bruh we literally gave you multiple reasons why it can’t be him and the only thing you said is “Araki did a oops” which proves you suck at debating because that is the worst excuse ever

[supple totem]

Remember when kakyion could fucking slice jotaros leg by painting

[near cedar]

No

[hard meteor]

He couldn’t

[near cedar]

That was Hirophan's tentacle

[supple totem]

That sure changed quickly

[hard meteor]

That was hierophant

The painting was for dramatic effect

[supple totem]

DID YOU SEE A TENTACLE?

[hard meteor]

If it wasn’t he wouldn’t have thrown it away immediately

[mystic finch]

😋

[hard meteor]

Well it might’ve been a emerald shard

[sudden nymph]

Kakyoin literally destroys the painting to show that the painting did nothing

[hard meteor]

Either way it was his stand

Not a dropped ability

[supple totem]

I doubt it

[sudden nymph]

Bruh

[supple totem]

I really do

[hard meteor]

Ok that’s on you then

[sudden nymph]

Kakyoin literally destroys the painting to show that the painting did nothing if the painting was magic Jotaro would have died there from the painting breaking

[supple totem]

Sure

[near cedar]

the point is that we don't see it and wonder wtf

It's called dramatic flair

[supple totem]

So

Dayas leg

[near cedar]

wha

[supple totem]

Was that also a tentacle??

And josukes secret healing ability?

[hard meteor]

Those two instances aren’t comparable

One is very clearly the use of a stand ability

[sudden nymph]

How does that prove the painting was a dropped ability

[hard meteor]

The other is left an open mystery

[supple totem]

Well its a fuck up no matter how u look at it

And still a myster with no answer

[hard meteor]

no?? It could’ve been a hint for something that’ll come up later

[sudden nymph]

Maybe because it’s a mystery

[hard meteor]

This part isn’t even done yet

[supple totem]

When did it come? What did it hint to???

[near cedar]

IT'S NOT OVER YET

JJL isn't over

[supple totem]

I KNOW

[sudden nymph]

You can’t use something as a dropped plot point if the story hasn’t finished yet

[near cedar]

Are you dense

[hard meteor]

I said it could hint to something in the future

[supple totem]

ARE YOU?

[supple totem]

I mean the closest thing is paper moon king

[hard meteor]

Maybe, maybe not

[supple totem]

So mayby?

[near cedar]

well you said this, so clearly you think it's a fuck up even tho it hasen't come back Y E T

[supple totem]

Mayby mayby not exactly

[sudden nymph]

You can’t use something as a dropped plot point if the story hasn’t finished yet

After the story is over you can

[supple totem]

I mean. I might be wrong

[near cedar]

You

[hard meteor]

“Might”

[near cedar]

a r e

[supple totem]

Not

Assuming anything for certain

Because as you said

Jjlion

Isnt

Done

So lets see

[kind owl]

@supple totem, Your Hamon Rank is now level 10 !

[supple totem]

If myst man or dayas leg

Gets explained

[sudden nymph]

I love how you are using stuff that aren’t dropped plot points and not the real dropped plot points like How Giorno can’t use his ability in his legs in the notorious big fight even though he did earlier.

[supple totem]

An ability in his legs

[minor ore]

He just wasn’t feeling it that day sorry

[sudden nymph]

No I’m saying he can use his life ability through his legs

[near cedar]

Calling something that might be set up for a future plot point a dropped plot point IS incorrect because you are unable to know so it's just a mystery not dropped

[sudden nymph]

But in notorious big fight he can’t for whatever reason

[supple totem]

I guess that because that is what evidence points to

[near cedar]

There is no evidence

[supple totem]

Like is myst man the true final boss?

Like diego

[visual fiber]

https://youtu.be/wWUvUROKXyc

[supple totem]

Is he coming or not

[runic adder]

That would be stupid

[supple totem]

I K

[runic adder]

I think mystery man is an ally of josuke

[near cedar]

Katoo tho

[runic adder]

Otherwise why would mystery man have met josuke

[near cedar]

Could be in a Diego role

[runic adder]

Kaato could totally be final villain

[supple totem]

Myst man is josukes scandinavien cousin

[sudden nymph]

A lot of people think it’s Johnny’s son they both have similar cloths

[runic adder]

Clothes?

We barely see his clothes

[sudden nymph]

Yeah sorry

[runic adder]

And how would Johnny’s son be alive

Josuke had to have met mystery man inside the wall eyes

[supple totem]

What hair color did goerge have?

Wait

Nvm

[runic adder]

Hair color isn’t even canon

All we can infer is hairstyle

[supple totem]

Ye thats why i said nvm

[sudden nymph]

People that believe in this theory believe he has become the guardian of the wall eyes

[supple totem]

Mb

[runic adder]

I really don’t see how that would be

There’s nothing that says wall eyes has a guardian

If devils palm didn’t I see no reason why the wall eyes would

Johnny didn’t entrust anything to his son

[sudden nymph]

I’m not saying I believe in this theory I’m just conveying what other people think

[runic adder]

Yea yea ik I’m just giving my two cents

[supple totem]

Would be cool if myst man had something to do with the wall eyes

[runic adder]

Certainly the man is connected to the wall eyes

[runic adder]

He has to

Josuke was the one in the flashback

[supple totem]

But thats where johny brakes that theory

[sudden nymph]

Other people think he’s a ghost now or something

[supple totem]

He caused the wall eyes

[runic adder]

It’s possible

[hard meteor]

Yeah that’s likely

[runic adder]

Given how Kira and josefumi were both dead, it would be kinda stupid to just have mystery man alive and reveal all the answers to josuke

[rocky charm]

None of Jojolion is real it's all just Kira having a fever dream while trapped under a bunch of rocks

[runic adder]

But that’s just speculation

For all we know mystery man is the final villain

And for some reason didn’t kill josuke in the wall eyes

[rocky charm]

4 more years of Jjl

[tough shell]

yo does anyone know if there is a way to buy the tickets with USD for the jojo event

[supple totem]

I cannot imagine what myst man could be. This is why i have a hard time seeing him returning

[runic adder]

Why wouldn’t he return

[supple totem]

Who is he

[runic adder]

He is incredibly important

[runic adder]

We don’t know yet

[supple totem]

Is he important

[runic adder]

Yes

Very

[supple totem]

Mayby he was

[runic adder]

Even if we don’t know anything about him, his very existence brings up a huge plot point

Josuke was in the flashback

[supple totem]

Idk its hard puzzle piece to fit

[runic adder]

That Is HUGE for jjl

[runic adder]

There’s a lot of pieces we don’t see yet

[rocky charm]

There was a pic of Josuke, but that doesn't necessarily mean it WAS

[supple totem]

Most is explained. Give example

[rocky charm]

It could've represented Kira but LOOKED like Jousuke because artistic license

[sudden nymph]

Wait is the event today because of time zones?

[runic adder]

How Kaato fits in, rokakaka origins, wall eyes origin, mysterious baby, doctors true goal etc

[runic adder]

Nah still tomorrow lol

[runic adder]

That’s possible

[sudden nymph]

I’m not familiar with Japan’s time zone that’s why I asked

[runic adder]

Yea I get it

[supple totem]

The baby looked alot like doobie wah user.

Im not saying he is

[runic adder]

Just convert 16:30 jst to your time zone

[runic adder]

Aisho is just 29 years old

And, the baby had jewelry on him

[rocky charm]

Aisho says he's 29

[runic adder]

Once we see a person with identical jewelry, we will know it’s DaBaby

[rocky charm]

But is Akefu Satori really 89 years old? I can't believe it!

[supple totem]

When was that article from?

[runic adder]

I know I sound like a broken record, but 89 years old?

[hard meteor]

1901

[runic adder]

Same day Johnny died

[rocky charm]

#jojolion message

[supple totem]

Doesnt rock human sleep like 50 years

[rocky charm]

Here's the mystery list

[supple totem]

Or

They did

[hard meteor]

even by rock human aging aisho is fairly young(compared rock humans like poor tom) he most likely wasnt born in that time period

[supple totem]

Araki actually changed how they grow

[rocky charm]

The sleep for 50 years thing was just like

[supple totem]

Polnareff and jotaro arrow expedition doesn't match up with part 3

[rocky charm]

Naps, right?

[supple totem]

When did part 3 take place?

[rocky charm]

Now we know how they're made, but that doesn't change the nap thing

Part 3 initially took place in 1987, later retconned to 1989

[supple totem]

Ah

[runic adder]

Caroniver that just doesn’t look like Kira to me

[hard meteor]

it depend on what timeline you follow but 1987-1988/1988-1989

[rocky charm]

I said that it might REPRESENT Kira but LOOK like Jousuke because artistic license

Had we even seen Kira by that point?

[runic adder]

If Kira was there we should have seen that one curl

[supple totem]

Remember joshus hair?

And his eyes

[minor ore]

explosive spin?

[runic adder]

That’s true but I just don’t see why Araki would do that

[hard meteor]

we saw what he looked like in the chapter after this

[supple totem]

When did joshu change

[elder narwhal]

I was pinged?

[kind owl]

@elder narwhal, Your Hamon Rank is now level 3 !

[rocky charm]

It's Jousuke's memory, which means it should be in First Person. There's no reason he should be able to see himself in the memory, so he's probably just filling in his own face, not knowing he should have a different face.

[runic adder]

Or it’s just for the viewers effect

[rocky charm]

Yeah

[hard meteor]

true

[supple totem]

Mayby

[runic adder]

The thing is that, josuke retains no memories from Kira or josefumi

Unless the mystery man is for some reason the most important thing to Kira it’s weird mystery man would be the only person he sees

[supple totem]

Kiras daddy?

[runic adder]

Lol

[rocky charm]

That's a valid point

[runic adder]

[rocky charm]

It seemed like we might get occasional flashbacks throughout the part, with Jousuke "remembering" things

But then none happened after this

[runic adder]

Yea

[hard meteor]

Right

[runic adder]

Weird retcon but it’s possible

What if arakis trolling and he’s just putting mystery man in as a “josuke 4 savior” reference and we never see him again

Lmao

[hard meteor]

So either this was a super important memory or a spirit,or a guy josuke saw in real time

[runic adder]

Wouldn’t a spirit appear before josuke tho?

Also did the mystery man steal josuke clothes?

[supple totem]

HAHAHA

[hard meteor]

He was naked in the vitamin c flashback

[supple totem]

[hard meteor]

Idk why he has clothes

[grand marsh]

mystery man is johnny as a rock human

[runic adder]

Could just be retcon yea

[runic adder]

Dude he got crushed by a rock

No way Araki would let us see Johnny’s hair

[grand marsh]

he uhhh

he uhhh did an equivalent exchange with a rock

[supple totem]

Holy revival reincarnation power

Jesus 2

[runic adder]

Johnny becomes Jesus confirmed

[supple totem]

Could it be

Johny fused with jesus?

Long hair

[runic adder]

I don’t think it’s possible to damage the corpse parts

They are pretty much invincible

Johnny would also need a new locacaca

[supple totem]

Johny almost tore the hand off in civil war ark

[runic adder]

Which is something only josefumi made

[hard meteor]

Plus the corpse was taken back to American

[supple totem]

Ah

Its been 100 chapters and there is manu unresolved plot points

[runic adder]

So?

A lot of plots have also been resolved

[hard meteor]

^

[supple totem]

Can you blame a guy when he says its not gonna return

[runic adder]

The manga ain’t over until the final panel

[runic adder]

Dude we didn’t get the return of invisible bubbles for 100 chapters

[supple totem]

Had we even had them before

[runic adder]

It was in chapter 1 and not mentioned again until the very recent chapters

[hard meteor]

Kei,invisible bubble,wall eyes,the government agents in morioh,ojiro a whole bunch of shit came back recently

[junior coral]

I'm waiting for the SBR anime smh

[minor ore]

@everyone

[supple totem]

You did an oops

[runic adder]

Gov agents got resolved recently?

When?

I may have been speedreading the wou arc lol

I didn’t even know government agents in morioh was an issue

[hard meteor]

They weren’t resolved completely but 99 showed that Lucy was connected to them and that they had ties to the spw oil company

[runic adder]

Ah that doesn’t really surprise me

Lucy would make an awesome government agent

[minor ore]

When google maps becomes girl

[elfin tangle]

Glad Lucy became a badass company agent after what she went through

[runic adder]

It’s what I expected, she has a lot of great skills

Even as a 14 year old she was really useful

[crude estuary]

just launched up tabg

the first thing i found is a shovel

[rocky charm]

I can't wait for Jojolion to get animated and for someone to turn Johnny Joestar getting rock disease + crushed by a rock into the next incessant "bad thing worse thing" meme that gets reposted for months in end

[runic adder]

You might have to wait for a bit

[tight hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGoIsxS3JJI

[runic adder]

Crazy my beat = bloody stream

Such a shame it was never an opening

[teal brook]

That's a really dope intro

[tight hill]

crazy my beat should have been the second part 2 opening

[junior coral]

okay

[tight hill]

we only got one : (

[tight hill]

OKAY

[runic adder]

It was only like, 19 episodes

It would be a bit weird to fit two ops in

[rocky charm]

New CODA song every episode

[runic adder]

Yes

[runic adder]

saddest moment in jojolion

[hard meteor]

[runic adder]

i cri everytim

does gappy count as a teen?

josefumi was 19 but some of the body is kiras

[teal brook]

I'd say he's

a Baby

🗿

yeah, I'd count him as a teen tho

[hard meteor]

id say say hes mostly a teen

[heavy ledge]

hes just been born so he baby

[elfin tangle]

baby

[teal brook]

bebe Josuke

also, is it josuke or jousuke?

[hard meteor]

josuke

[teal brook]

this translation I'm reading is always Jousuke

that's probably not a good sign

[humble arrow]

He’s confirmed 19

[minor ore]

The translation is fine. The "ou" represents a long "o" sound. The official spelling of his name would of course be "Josuke", though.

[humble arrow]

I want Kaato back

[teal brook]

yeah, it's really weird how they mistranslate that

aren't you Kaato

[humble arrow]

I named myself after her

[minor ore]

It may be intentional, so that the reader better understands the pronunciation.

But I do think they should have just went with the official spelling.

[humble arrow]

That’s like calling joot Joutaro

But I feel like Jousuke would help different from this one

[runic adder]

its not entirely confirmed, thats just what josuke claims he is

[humble arrow]

Ah

[runic adder]

but yea i would count gappy as 19

i dont see a reason that would really change in-canon

[frozen charm]

The jojo event is actually gonna anounce an iwasuke ova

It serves as the backstory of iwasuke

[runic adder]

genius

[heavy ledge]

araki claims he is 19 so imma believe him

"estimated"

[teal brook]

He really likes young fellows as main characters 🤔

WAIT A MINUTE 😲

[minor ore]

No

[teal brook]

[minor ore]

Don’t do that

[runic adder]

yes, usually teenagers ARE more relatable for a shonen genre

[teal brook]

look how young he is!

oh I see

[minor ore]

Wasn’t Johnny like 20

[hard meteor]

19

[minor ore]

Ah

Close enough

[teal brook]

[runic adder]

thats why i thought jonathan died at 29 earlier was cuz johnny also did

[teal brook]

araki makes young characters to keep his youth 🗿

[runic adder]

like, yknow, jonathan is fated to die in both universes

[elfin tangle]

Joseph?

[teal brook]

🗿

he looks um...

at least in his late 30's 🗿

[grizzled pilot]

josuke is, for all intents and purposes, nineteen

or otherwise, five months or so old

[minor ore]

yooo 106 was leaked

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Hamon Rank is now level 5 !

[runic adder]

Yo fr?

I doubt this early it would be leaked

[minor ore]

it’s another joshu filler arc

[runic adder]

Lmao we need that

Desperately

[dusty kindle]

hi jojolion

[minor ore]

Hey

[dusty kindle]

i have came to tell you that the next stand will be ||gangnam style||

[runic adder]

I can’t wait

It’s iwasukes stand isn’t it?

[teal brook]

omg

gangnam style

[hard meteor]

Milagro man part 3

[runic adder]

I wouldn’t mind another joshu filler arc tbh

[teal brook]

hmmm

[runic adder]

Only if it was 1-2 chapters tho

[teal brook]

did he ever lose the money stand?

I forgot

[patent merlin]

he beat the money guy

[runic adder]

Yea he fused a dollar to the bottle

[minor ore]

the leaf that cut his finger was actually a dollar with the milagro man curse

[runic adder]

So the guy accepted the money and become milagro man again

[minor ore]

which gave the curse to joshu who will then give it to tooru to kill him

[teal brook]

oh yeah that's right

thanks lads :))

[runic adder]

Such a joshu move, he doesn’t even attempt to end the curse just hand it back over

[teal brook]

yeah lmao

[barren bough]

next chapter joshu hair flashback

[minor ore]

Finally

[lethal jasper]

joshu got struck with a terrible calamity

[runic adder]

anyone got that one image of the damokan group

im tryna make a screensaver

they're doing a funky pose together

nvm found it

[frozen charm]

Tsurugi

[runic adder]

tsurugi - yotsuya confirmed

this one is also swag

[runic adder]

damo is ew but josuke is fresh

[lethal jasper]

damo is fresh but josuke is ew

[minor ore]

Cold as fuck

[teal brook]

Vitamin C was so scary to me

just making you completely vulnerable to attacks and having to watch as you are left to do nothing, that terrifies me

😨

[white pasture]

since p6 araki has been making 19yr old

perfect fit for an MC age

[humble arrow]

[sudden nymph]

Why are there so many new members I guess that’s a good thing but why now

[white pasture]

Jolyne

[dusty kindle]

Jolyne

[runic adder]

the scene with norisuke was so intimidating

damo pulled a 180 in character presence and it was so great

[teal brook]

man got a yen bill and folded it and made him bleed

[white pasture]

norisuke or diavolo

whos more valid of a dilf

[teal brook]

ugh, gives me the chills

hmmm

norisuke

[white pasture]

fish swimming in him too 😭

[teal brook]

lmfao

yeah I forgot about that scene

[runic adder]

hmm diavolo looks better but norisuke is just a chad

[teal brook]

exactly

[hard meteor]

Norisuke

[zenith blaze]

@

Moody blues: sent addition

[runic adder]

wish we saw it more

its such a cool design

[zenith blaze]

Yea

[runic adder]

we saw it with the ojiro replication but that wasnt really the stand

just the jigsaw pieces

[teal brook]

"it's like showing your pp"

or something I forgot

[near cedar]

Everybody has an asshole, but you don't go showing it to other people

[runic adder]

my favorite explanation for stands

[ember light]

wise words

[runic adder]

that ideology on stands is interesting,i wonder where it like, stemmed from

cuz if you have a talent, usually its good to be proud of it and show off

especially when your whole family has that talent

the higashikatas dont always seem like a closed off family

[true walrus]

if everyone has that talent then its not really a talent

[runic adder]

yea but like, if everyone in your family can sing really well, its not like you're all the same

or if you are all artists

it applies moreso to stands since the majority of stands are unique

[near cedar]

They don't all have the same stand so that point doesn't stand

[runic adder]

it doesnt even really apply to talents in general

[pseudo garnet]

it boggles my mind how it's been going for ten years and isn't even close to finishing

by the time it finishes dp will have animated sbr

[split tide]

Damo is the man.

Even though he killed my boi Kira.

[near cedar]

That's an assumption

We don't know how close to done it is

Main villain is being fought right now

With 1 possible extra fight

Also Karera showing up again to exist and probably die

[runic adder]

that would really suck

kei already got a really stupid hot pants-level ending

karera deserves better

[runic adder]

welllll

theres kaato, but theres the possibility of just one more fight i feel like

too many mysteries just for kaato to show up and say "final villain lul" and kill jobin or smth

im very hyped for kaato tho

she definitely has a large role to play

[near cedar]

I mean Jobin's pretty damn dead

[minor ore]

I really hope jobin comes back. Great character

[zenith blaze]

Eww

[runic adder]

i really wanna hope

jojo characters have survived intense blood loss before

is it possible for jobin to use speed king to instantly cauterize his wounds?

[zenith blaze]

I hope not

[runic adder]

why not?

i feel like unless kaato sees jobin his character would be very wasted

kaato could see jobin and like, get super mad at josuke or smth idk

[zenith blaze]

Lol

[runic adder]

but for jobin to just die to wou and thats it, thats such an anticlimactic end to the best villain in jjl

[rocky charm]

Could Joubin be classified as an anti-hero?..... Or maybe an anti-villain?

He's definitely not a straight villain

[runic adder]

hes definitely more anti-hero

[runic adder]

thats what makes him so great

because jobins intentions are noble, and he does care a lot about his family

[zenith blaze]

One eyebrow isn’t great

[rocky charm]

He only directly antagonized Jousuke once, and even then it was just because he wanted a cool beetle fight

[runic adder]

but he is willing to do whatever it takes for his family

[runic adder]

he seemed like such an edgy nerd in that arc lol

[rocky charm]

Besides that he's a Funny Valentine type who's working hard to get what's good for "him" and "his family"

[runic adder]

yea but FV had no qualms with sacrificing innocent people

[rocky charm]

But def not as bad as FV

[runic adder]

jobin doesnt want to sacrifice anyone if he doesnt have to

he didnt want to kill norisuke but it was the only way for him to keep moving forward

he loves tsurugi and mitsuba very much, but he is not actively trying to cure tsurugis disease

[rocky charm]

Joubin's killed what, 2 people? Ojirou and his gf? Anyone else?
... I seriously typed that not thinking about Norisuke

[runic adder]

lmao forgot best dad

[rocky charm]

OK then 3 people

But killing your dad who also happens to be Norisuke is like

-50 Karma

So basically he killed 52 people

[runic adder]

i mean, norisuke might not be dead
im just saying, its a LOT for one arc to have this many dead characters

[rocky charm]

Oh, THAT'S why WoU killed Joubin near instantly. Karmic retribution for killing one of the only good dad's in Jojo

[runic adder]

oh that actually makes a lot of sense

good thing jobin died a relatively gore free death

just became a human fountain

[rocky charm]

"relatively gore free"

[runic adder]

by gore levels i mean like, planet waves or damo type shit

[rocky charm]

Fair

[runic adder]

not what happened to jobin

because with jobin, its totally possible hes alive

[rocky charm]

It really is crazy how we had NO main character deaths up until now (like in Part 4)

But now during the final arc we have 4

[runic adder]

yea everything is happening at once

i mean, we did have two character deaths before the part happened

[rocky charm]

A slight step up from Funny Valentine killing 3 in the final arcs

[runic adder]

yea wou really outshining em

[rocky charm]

But still doesn't beat Part 6 killing Anasui, Hermes, Jolyne, and Jotaro all in a row

[runic adder]

haha but they come back

their souls are still technically there?

[rocky charm]

Because WoU is a much longer arc than Made in Heaven

[runic adder]

by my philosophy they are dead tho, they dont have the memories of the past part

[runic adder]

definitely

its longer than cmoon + mih

ok so hear me out here
wou might only have 3 deaths

the flashforward confirms 2 things: norisuke is alive or jobin is alive

[rocky charm]

If we go by page count, WoU is longer than the last several SO arcs put together

[runic adder]

haha yea

i consider like, donatello-mih the final arcs

maybe heavy weather

[rocky charm]

Chapter count ALONE puts it at more than Pucci, but these chapters are also double length

[runic adder]

yea

bit unfair to the other parts

[rocky charm]

Holy fuck SBRverse finales are crazy

Wonder of U is longer than Phantom Blood

[runic adder]

so like i was saying here, if jobin was really dead, why wouldnt tsurugi check up on jobin first? they have a much greater attachment to jobin than norisuke

[runic adder]

oh damn lmao

[runic adder]

yea, and part 6 was pretty great too

[runic adder]

in the case norisuke is dead and jobin is alive, then the flashforward makes sense

[rocky charm]

I was referring to the finales being l o n g, not necessarily to the quality (they are though)

[runic adder]

oh i get it

[rocky charm]

But yeah, the flash forward seems really confusing with current events

[runic adder]

yea i mean, sbrverse in general is just l o n g

[runic adder]

yea, i think the emphasis on ckb is a very good factor to what goes on

[rocky charm]

We'll just have to wait till June to see what actually happens in the Rokakaka harvest

[runic adder]

but why daiya would steal their memories is a bit strange

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what???

we're like 40 min from the harvest? right?

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The flash forward is mere minutes before the Rokakaka, and even if Tooru dies now they still need to wrap up some more before we get to the Higashikatas

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true but thats like, oh damn thats less than 4 chapters lol

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I can easily see Tooru dying, plane door falling, and Jousuke returning to the house taking 2 chapters

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didnt realize how close june was

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yea thats ez

tooru dying is a bit cheap
every rock human up to this point associated with the doctors or damokan has died right after they were introduced

but its impossible for josuke to somehow keep tooru alive and get answers from him

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Chapter 5 guy could be a researcher who helped make Locacaca 6251

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hmm thats possible

but i dont see why we need another researcher

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Provide some exposition in a post-WoU "epilogue" arc like High Voltage and Rolling Stones

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locacaca 5251 could just be made by the doctors we already know

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Reveal he's Diego's grandson

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lmao

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an epilogue arc would probably have kaato as the villain there

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... great grandson?

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if dio has MORE kids in this universe ima flip out

he had more than enough in the ogverse

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I don't see why Kaato has to be a villain.

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why would she be a hero

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Unless she's like a temporary villain who blames Jousuke for Joubin's death and only needs to be calmed down

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but like, shes very distanced from the family