and other small cults
Yeah like a person who has cult of gappy as their name
#jojolion
young meteor
hollow hornet
minor ore
ok Historia
young meteor
Ok uuh hmmm
minor ore
Hey don't insult the gappster!
bleak heron
Tooru
hollow hornet
lost slate
joshu
young meteor
Gappy
sudden nymph
Joshu
young meteor
I have it too, but idk where it is now
bleak heron
Hmm
ember light
I should have started a giorno cult in the speedwagon channel when I had the chance
sudden nymph
That’s great
minor ore
young meteor
There's an edit of Charles Diavolo too.
ember light
minor ore
cursed
Charles jobin would be good also
pls stop
Jobin doesn't even look feminine like wtf
He's got a bitch face with jumbo lips
and a wife
wait nvm
Ex-wife
sudden nymph
What? @minor ore
minor ore
You know what I'm talking about...... You saw how joshu looks at her........
near cedar
Eh?
hard meteor
huh
sudden nymph
I don’t think she will Mary joshu
faint rivet
ayy slow mode is gone
near cedar
Yey
bleak heron
Eat the rokkka
minor ore
And who is she to resist temptation? To be seduced by the holy joshu himself...... Such an honor is. . . .. .. . .. . . .. Unimaginable
near cedar
Who tf
hard meteor
yeah shes devoted to jobin to the point of almost||killing yasuho in a toilet||
sudden nymph
People that are unholy
sudden nymph
With her new nose she does kind of look like a witch
near cedar
Aight I'm bringing the Cleansing Flamer
minor ore
She must take the messiah's blessed seed...... Only then will she be cleansed.......
young meteor
At first glance, I thought Mitsuba was a clown
sudden nymph
I just looked at jojokes and now I regret my life choices
young meteor
Fuck autocorrect
minor ore
I just looked at jojokes and now I regret my life choices
@sudden nymph different people enjoy different things
young meteor
Ahh, thanks for the warning
inland oyster
Not in this server
minor ore
I love dio vs jotaro memes in 2020!
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 17 !
sudden nymph
I never said you couldn’t enjoy it what?
inland oyster
young meteor
Haven't checked jojokes in a while
inland oyster
None is allowed to disagree
minor ore
The only jojokes you are allowed to laugh at is those wonder of u gifs on tenor
near cedar
Y art thou loading a gun
minor ore
I never said you couldn’t enjoy it what?
Every critique against the council means death
hollow hornet
hard meteor
Ftr getting ready to cleanse jojokes
young meteor
Do you want to meet that person?
minor ore
Yes!!!!
I am gonna be honest
Inb4 it's wew
those wonder of u gif memes are worse as the dio jotaro memes
Nah not at all
But then again i haven't been on here much to see them at the height of their use
near cedar
The only good WoU meme I've seen is WoU walking saying it's going to beat you to death
minor ore
That sounds... Terrible
sudden nymph
It was great shut up
minor ore
I like the wou gifs because i genuinely don't get the joke on most of them
young meteor
Wew lads tbh made those gifs?????
minor ore
But they all have a common theme
near cedar
A meme where the joke is not understandable is stoopid
minor ore
I did get the joke on the jacob satorus one
Satoru......
Same name!
This one is hilarious and i don't know why
sudden nymph
Popsicle sticks
near cedar
I did get the joke on the jacob satorus one
It has an annoying child singer in it, instant dislike
sudden nymph
They are back
young meteor
Because it's accurate
sudden nymph
Oh no
minor ore
Comparing these gifs to jotaro vs dio is just dumb though! The wou gifs are completely unpredictable and new, wheras dio vs jotaro is literally the same exact shit for 5 years
And dio vs jotaro memes last for minutes
sudden nymph
Popsicle sticks could beat the moon
minor ore
Compared to the wou's single digit seconds....
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570347967324749844/773895612848144413/Screenshot_20201105-135909.png
This one is my favorite for now
winter ridge
minor ore
Still far :(((((
sudden nymph
Oh no
minor ore
Joshu uses his nut king park
Also wtf isn't the fusing thing what the wall eyes do?
I thought the new rokakaka just heals you for free and the fusing was the wall eyes
What was all that lemon and tangerine business in the first chapters for.........
hard meteor
Its still the wall eyes
minor ore
Yeah but fusing was proven to be the wall eyes' doing
Maybe the fruit just fuses in a different way like not combining DNA or stands, but that just seems needlessly confusing
And also pointless since the fruit just does what the wall eyes did for generations
hard meteor
Does it? I mean the fruit didn’t really fuse anything it exchanged joshus arm for yasuhos
minor ore
It was grown on a new branch and gained new properties
Ohhhh wait was the branch from the wall eyes?
That could explain a few things.....
I don't see the big deal about the new fruit honestly
And shouldn't it have revived kira?
Literally tore off joshu's arm
While he screams
True.... Going back to kira and josefumi..... It could have swapped josefumi's life for kira's
But it didn't
It just gave him severe amnesia
So maybe swapping with a corpse wipes your memories because the brain is dead
like the old one could've taken a piece of his brain and he would've died on the spot
You're thinking of locacaca
The fruit juice can never kill
But it's just a regular rokakaka otherwise
I guess the new fruit doesn't have the rock stuff anymore
Now it just removes shit instead of making it rock
Seems like a downgrade
Like mitsuba would be a noseless zombie looking lady if they used the new fruit instead of locacaca
She wouldn't have that epic sex nose that jobin loves :(((((
Oh god you're one of them.....
Blocked and reported for online bullying
upper knoll
he is RIGHT
minor ore
They might be the same in japanese but this is english goddamnit!
minor ore
First off let me start by saying roka is more fitting than loca because it makes things.... Rock..... Roka.....
Durrrr but theheh japanese r !!!
upper knoll
🤪
minor ore
None of you have any sources other than uhh uh uu u chapter 89 he writes loca 627190!!!!! On the bottle!nn
Yeah because the shit in the bottle is locacaca
minor ore
You ever buy medicine? They change names
minor ore
Ask your propaganda overlords who feed you this "locacaca" garbage
The damn jjl hivemind strikes again
PRODUCT
THANK YOU
Locacaca is the COMMERCIAL PRODUCT FORM of rokakaka
upper knoll
but wasnt the regular fruit dealt to people making it also a product
wasnt there a deal with it made before doobie wah fight
heavy ledge
what on earth is going on here
minor ore
Any other theories are false propaganda by fake intellectuals willing to dilute the average jojolion reader's mind
but wasnt the regular fruit dealt to people making it also a product
It's still rokakaka because it's the fruit
And it wasn't commercial it was some shady side gig
upper knoll
true true on that part
minor ore
Fake intellectuals will ruin jjl i swear
upper knoll
elitism bad... . . .
minor ore
DEMANDING TO CALL THE FRUIT LOCACACA IS PEAK ELITISM
This shit's even worse than "jousuke"
upper knoll
idk both might be locacaca its ok if you use roka and loca to seperate fruit and liquid versions
Makes it clearer to some
minor ore
Better than remembering a number
upper knoll
anyway did you get the invite to the joshu server
minor ore
Nah it turns out there is no big joshu cult
faint rivet
junior coral
Locacaca 6251 is the name of the drug
minor ore
NO
faint rivet
rokakakakaka froot
minor ore
"Locacaca is real, TV said so"
sudden nymph
Dododdoddede
upper knoll
who watches TV anymore man
faint rivet
mfw locacaca
upper knoll
Actually bad argument, I did 2 days ago
minor ore
Locacaca is the medicine!
faint rivet
yeah
sudden nymph
@faint rivet do you think popsicle sticks could beat the moon
minor ore
Companies often change the name when making a drug
faint rivet
as in the Dark Blue Moon from part 3? probably
sudden nymph
No the actual moon
faint rivet
and as in the real moon? probably
faint rivet
D8C but without the c
faint rivet
do do do do de da da da
heavy ledge
but the rokaka makes ppl rock bc its not compatible with humans isnt it
sudden nymph
I just call them popsicle sticks
minor ore
Honesty way better name than doremifoastlol do
minor ore
Anyone who spells urban guerilla's pet name correctly gets free nitro
upper knoll
Well I havent taken my time to learn how to pronounce do do de da dodo odoa
heavy ledge
just sing the song
faint rivet
doremifasolatido
minor ore
Do do do
De
Da da da
faint rivet
doremi fasolatido
upper knoll
Doremifasolati do
faint rivet
yeah that's it
minor ore
John doe
junior coral
Loccocaca means crazy shit in Spanish I think idk
upper knoll
The actual song goes Doremifasolasi do I think
junior coral
People think that’s what it’s called
upper knoll
theres a catch at the end of the first word
anyway I have no idea how to say dodo oddodododododo odededdes name properly
faint rivet
doremifasolati do is the pet's name
minor ore
Bruh
upper knoll
d8
minor ore
Do do do
De
Da da da
upper knoll
doo de da da da
faint rivet
De do do do de da da da
upper knoll
do do do de da da da
minor ore
Yay!
minor ore
Roll for initiative
faint rivet
upper knoll
binding of isaac reffie?
minor ore
Nah d&d reffie.......
upper knoll
wtf....
minor ore
D100 moment 🥴
faint rivet
im looking at the comments on the video and i have only seen one comment that isn't about jojo
upper knoll
jojo fans
faint rivet
it's actually a pretty good song ngl
minor ore
Nothing will ever top people storming some random unknown metal song because it was called endless calamity
minor ore
Or awaking 3 leaves' weird ass flute
minor ore
But honestly i can see araki being into weird flute music, besides the name is way too specific
faint rivet
i think he just needed another name with "king" in it
minor ore
It still needed to be a reffie
upper knoll
King Crimson's first album had some flute pretty sure
thats probably what Araki was listening to when it comes to KC
minor ore
I just looked closely at your pfp
I thought it was some badass star wars gasmask but it's a black guy
upper knoll
kanye west gaming
faint rivet
its kanye
faint rivet
but i would guess araki was listening to King Crimson's Epitaph since he named 2 stands after the song and artist
faint rivet
ok Epitaph is kinda depressing so i don't think he was listening to it while creating the stand
ok this song is actually really good
wait holy shit it's 8 minutes long
upper knoll
Well its prog rock
ember light
epitaph is amazing
and my favorite song from that album
it sounds like a person's funeral
upper knoll
well epitaph is that writing on a person's tombstone so yeah it fits
https://open.spotify.com/track/6QgkSqu0r3KkuiKkzmQo3Z?si=oD6DKrq6SGmU5qtF1MU7cg listen to the live ver doe, has better vocals imo
minor ore
Funerals sound like footsteps and sobbing
Doubt that's in the song.........
Sometimes they sound like sex if you live in Ohio
faint rivet
That's... Troubling
sudden nymph
what is the most wasted stand in jojolion
ember minnow
king nothing
sudden nymph
I see where you are coming from but I think i might say walking heart
ember minnow
my brother did draw king nothing once
faint rivet
does walking heart only apply to Hato's heels? or can she extend other body parts
inland oyster
we don't know
near cedar
We never will know
minor ore
Her Stand's description specifies her heels, so I'd say it's probably just her heels.
faint rivet
lame
zenith tangle
Lol
grizzled lava
or this part
pulsar yoke
jojolion
noble haven
- Shuck could have handled it better
- I don’t think this makes him a shit person I think it was just a bad decision
- That comment is honestly kind of rude he says he didn’t call shuck sexist but let’s be fair he was obviously hitting at that
- I wouldn’t be surprised if that was hamon beat
@sudden nymph
old comment but he's not really a shit person moreso as just a bad content creator in the Jojo fandom
sudden nymph
Some of his videos are good and others are bad imo
@noble haven
Like his stone ocean video was garbage
But I liked his stand tier lists
minor ore
All the jojo youtubers are garbage and have way too much power over public opinion
ember light
watching a jojotuber isnt something you should do to copy their opinion but unfortunately I think a ton of people do that
I just watch them when I want a different perspective on something or just want to be entertained
not so that they can make up my opinion for me
minor ore
Same, until i discovered how massively influential they were over opinions in the community
Why watch it when i can just hear it from some random fan
minor ore
i just like xfort chapter reviews
they’re just something simple to throw on while you’re eating or doing the dishes lol
Remember how everyone was suddenly like "duhhh king crimson isn't confusing!!!! D4C is super complicated bro.... Who shot johnny and stuff......."
ember light
why did you watch the video then
restive epoch
I didn't
minor ore
Xforts chapter reviews get more views than the manga
restive epoch
the title literally was "josuke's spin"
ember light
oh
hard meteor
rip
minor ore
I hate chapter 100 so much
So much for a celebration of JJL
Especially that spin twist
Almost ruined josuke for me
ember light
youre complaining about it when we dont even know what it is yet
youre just assuming that its THE spin
minor ore
It's A spin
minor ore
It's yet another final minute upgrade
ember light
we've literally known about it for years
ember light
bro
minor ore
Yeah and i hated it then too! I was hoping araki would forget about it
ember light
thats not confirmed
inland oyster
It could literally not be anything else
ember light
it could be
that they spin
but not THE spin
Im just saying JoJolion is impossible to predict
inland oyster
Rai is referring to a very general concept.
minor ore
Spin varies from person to person iirc but it's still the same thing
hard meteor
its THE spin if it makes you feel better its probably just gonna be a bonus ability
restive epoch
I trust that araki has a decent explanation for why he has the spin in upcoming chapters
minor ore
Like gyro's spin is not johnny's but it's still the same power
inland oyster
A power within each stand? That’s the spin
minor ore
I just absolutely detest this last minute upgrade shit
ember light
Im just saying, his balls are actually made of those spinning things, that doesnt mean its gonna be anything like what we saw in part 7
minor ore
Especially when it's done with one of the most flexible and entertaining powers in the series
ember light
I just absolutely detest this last minute upgrade shit
@minor ore we've known for years
simple kraken
Ok I'll just see where it goes because I don't really like it eather
inland oyster
Jojolion bro’s is the JJL streak over 😮?
minor ore
Hoped he forgot about the concept
ember light
also the only time that a protagonist got an ability at the very last minute that wasnt established or foreshadowed before(in the manga) was in part 3
simple kraken
part 7 and 8 are far more tied together than the other parts
minor ore
Even with foreshadowing it's bad
Because it turns into a fundamentally different power
Which sucks because S&W is one of the most fun and flexible powers in jojo
I don't doubt he could somehow defeat satoru with even base S&W
Giving him spin is just a cheap get out of jail free card
simple kraken
how could he defeat wonder of u with base soft n wet though
hard meteor
He most likely can’t hence the new ability
faint rivet
simple kraken
wonder of u is simply overpowered out the ass it's on lovetrain level
minor ore
True but he had a good thing going with the invitation stuff
And mamezuku managed to get in for an execution regardless of HD's OP power
Kinda fumbled it though
hard meteor
Not even kinda,he got fucked up
simple kraken
like most jojo deaths lmao
kind owlBOT
@simple kraken, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !
minor ore
When the hole in his head was revealed... That shit was powerful
That hit me hard...
If he just dropped dead it would be such a memorable moment
But then he gives a massive speech with a hole in his head and stomach
minor ore
He talks to josuke
Lectures him about spin
It's like if when gyro dies he tells johnny exactly what he needs to do to kill valentine
sudden nymph
I know I’m a little late to this but the only jojotuber I love is a scrub for hire
faint rivet
i kinda like xforts ig
minor ore
Xforts just seems like he does it out of love and passion
minor ore
Seems like a cool guy irl
But i don't like his content too much
I think meti brings the best points in his videos
faint rivet
meti is good
minor ore
But god i just hate how he single handedly made everyone hate blue hawaii
faint rivet
i don't hate blue hawaii
sudden nymph
Shuck tries to combine memes and meti type videos and it’s very hit or miss
minor ore
I can't count how many times i saw BH hate
sudden nymph
Why?
minor ore
Because the amount of times is very numerous..... . . ...., , , ,... , , ,., ,..,.
sudden nymph
no what points did he give
minor ore
That it doesn't make sense and is inconsistent
And that josuke could have escaped the baby at the end
Completely overlooks what that scene means!!!!
faint rivet
honestly i think meti is my favorite jojotuber mainly because he does a variety of series, not just jojo
minor ore
BH is the most stressful and terrifying arc in the manga for me, the only one that made me actually nervous while reading
It just never stops
There's no breathing room
faint rivet
and i know shuck has some konosuba stuff or something but i don't care about konosuba
ember light
yeah it never stops
that doesnt make it exciting
its not fun to watch Josuke run away on repeat for a whole arc
faint rivet
i enjoyed the blue hawaii arc
minor ore
Being stressful makes it exciting wtf
ember light
it not stopping doesnt make it stressful
minor ore
Maybe you're not invested in josuke then....
faint rivet
it's the only bit of jojolion manga i own
ember light
its just boring to to watch him do the same thing for an entire arc
ember light
thats not enough to make it stressful for me
like I said not stopping doesnt mean anything if we're doing the same shit
faint rivet
yeah i have a volume of ultra jump and it's got blue hawaii part 2 in it
minor ore
Well it was pretty terrifying for me, but then again i got way too immersed in JJL at the time of reading
faint rivet
now if i could read japanese, i could be able to read this chapter whenever i want
minor ore
BH is my favorite arc because manslaughter with a shovel
faint rivet
at least it came with a sick josuke pouch 😎😎 😎
ember light
what about it is so good
minor ore
It shows that josuke is human
ember light
yeahn
faint rivet
Very cool pouch
ember light
despite hitting a woman with a shovel earlier in literally the same arc without thinking twice
it doesnt matter if it feels out of character
minor ore
Only as a last resort
minor ore
He tried talking to her many times, knocking her out and even going out of reach
ember light
hitting the old woman didnt even make him feel sad
minor ore
Because he knew she was dead already
And if he didn't hit her he'd be too
With a baby it's different because... It's a baby!
ember light
babies dont have more value than other humans bruh
minor ore
It's not about value!
faint rivet
dang the pouch is barely too small to hold my phone
minor ore
Babies are the epitome of innocence....
ember light
that means nothing
minor ore
He can't bring himself to bring harm to it
ember light
I wouldnt want to kill someone else over a baby
they're both human
thinking that a baby deserves to live more than other humans because it looks innocent is stupid
minor ore
You think about stuff way too logistically
ember light
bruh what does that even mean
minor ore
I dunno what the word is but i bet you'd kill the dude in the trolley situation
ember light
ad hominem moment
minor ore
Mathematical??
ember light
what
minor ore
I forgot the word
ember light
methodical?
minor ore
Like uhh... You put usefulness and value over feelings
Which is pretty good most of the time
ember light
I dont know what youre thinking of then
minor ore
But in josuke's case putting feelings over logic makes him more human
He can't bring himself to hurt a baby, he's flawed but in a human way
He knows it's dead already but he just can't
So he slowly accepts his death
ember light
so he cant bring himself to kill a baby because it looks innocent, but he can do this to some helpless old lady without even a strong facial expressing
kind owlBOT
@ember light, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 39 !
minor ore
Like i said he didn't instantly execute her
faint rivet
idk about you guys but i think this pouch is really cool
ember light
theres nothing there to indicate he is feeling for her as he does that
minor ore
He tried to talk several times, tried to knock her out and tried to escape, but she just hitting her head against a wall and finally got to him
He had no feelings because it's a corpse
Same with the mail delivery boy, josuke was just horrified at that and tried to get away, the worst he did was knock him off his feet so he can get away faster
ember light
so hes okay with pounding a shovel into the corpse of some old lady without feeling bad about it
that makes him seem less human
while at the end its trying to make him seem more human
minor ore
Yeah because she's already dead and is trying to kill him
minor ore
Yeah everyone would if she was teying to kill you, also she's already dead
ember light
ok, so he can do it because he has to
minor ore
Josuke already exhausted every option available
minor ore
Because it's a baby
sudden nymph
The worst fight In jojolion is schott key change my mind
minor ore
Bruh i never met someone who hates babies this much
faint rivet
schott key was bad but i wasn't really feeling paper moon king either
minor ore
People generally don't feel very well about killing minors! Especially babies!
ember light
I hate kids actually
faint rivet
grr i am a kid
minor ore
Soldiers kill all the time, but ask them if they'd kill a child soldier with no second thought
faint rivet
well a young teenager actually but still
ember light
yeah almost like those soldiers have been trained to be able to kill adults
and not kids
thats also
not based on anything
unless you can show me
where soldiers were asked to kill a kid
faint rivet
can we just agree that babies are dumb stupid idiots that get everything for free
ember light
sure whatever
faint rivet
none of them even attempt to get a job
ember light
I hate kids so I guess that means babies too
faint rivet
i bet they don't even pay taxes smh
minor ore
That'll change when you get kids eventually!
Everyone pretends to hate babies until they grow up
faint rivet
loafous ykw i understand you
ember light
Im not getting kids lol
faint rivet
i really don't like children
i want kids, but i'll until then i don't like the childs
ember light
I seriously doubt that but ok
minor ore
Mark my words!
faint rivet
i just gave my dog head scratches because she's a good girl ❤️
ember light
I'll talk to you when Im 30
faint rivet
blue hawaii i think
ember light
yep
minor ore
Good fight, josuke commits manslaughter with a shovel and steals a bike
faint rivet
what a guy
hard meteor
Chad jojo
faint rivet
this is why he's my favorite jojo
faint rivet
my tier list is:
- Josuk8
- 4suke
3-7. Everyone else is great - Part 3 Jotaro
minor ore
Same tbh, he's got the depth of johnny, the compassion of josuke4 and the sadistic tendencies of kira
Favorite jojo, maybe even favorite character
faint rivet
and he likes large fries
minor ore
Not fried chicken :((((((
ember light
- Giorno
- Jotaro
- Johnny
- Gappy
- Josuke
- Joseph
- Jonathan
- Jolyne
hard meteor
jotaro over johnny,idk about that
minor ore
Jolyne is one of my favorites, so is jotaro
faint rivet
you got my respect for putting giorno at the top doe
ember light
thanks bro
minor ore
I never got the love for johnny
ember light
people can not like Jotaro if they want
faint rivet
yeah he's less of a jojo than gyro is
ember light
but I can relate to him more than any other jojo
and I do think he gets very good development after part 3
though I still loved him in part 3
minor ore
I don't mind reserved characters but he's just unlikable, even if it's intentional
hard meteor
i relate to johnny his struggles feel real
ember light
I don't mind reserved characters but he's just unlikable, even if it's intentional
@minor ore unlikable?
faint rivet
he is much better after part 3, but when ranking characters i judge them based on their own parts
minor ore
Also johnny is a rich kid which i despise
hard meteor
bruh what
ember light
they are both flaws
thats like the point lmao
Johnny was an insufferable bitch at the start
hard meteor
"rick so bad" fuckin bruh
noble haven
wtf
minor ore
I said i know that's the point!
noble haven
active chat
minor ore
Unlikable is still unlikable
faint rivet
impossible
ember light
I dont understand how Jotaro is unlikable
minor ore
Oh not talking about jotaro
ember light
you can tell that he cares a bunch about people
minor ore
Johnny
minor ore
Jotaro is really good
hard meteor
hows johnny unlikeable though,other than being a dick in a flashback i dont see it
minor ore
Especially his evolution through the parts
faint rivet
like i said, he's better after part 3, but in part 3 his main trait is that he's badass and very powerful
noble haven
Johnny develops insanely
minor ore
He's a dick all the time, and usually has nothing interesting to say
ember light
in part 3 I can understand if you dont like Jotaro but he still appeals to me a lot
faint rivet
and i just have a dislike for part 3 in general, so anyone in it is automatically brought down
ember light
he hides his true feelings and pretends to not care
I enjoy that a lot in characters
but it doesnt make them amazing
noble haven
Might just be me but I think Jotaro's development was shown in between the lines during the end of Part 3 and it's way more shown in part 4 and 6
faint rivet
part 4, part 6, and hell even part 5 jotaro are much better
minor ore
I don't think it was even a thing in part 3's manga
hard meteor
He's a dick all the time, and usually has nothing interesting to say
alright youre defiantly capping,the return to zero speech,literally everything in the civil war fight
noble haven
You can clearly see how he cares about Joseph and one of my favorite lines from him was when he talks about the journey during the end
minor ore
Part 4 and 6 definitely leaned in on that angle though
noble haven
I don't think it was even a thing in part 3's manga
@minor ore
No it was
ember light
he definitely develops so much more in later parts than part 3
minor ore
Part 3's most emotional character is polnarefd
noble haven
It was when the hospital guy tells him it's impossible to revive Joseph but then Jotaro tells him something about nothing is impossible or something along these lines
faint rivet
if we're counting all of the parts he's in, he's a pretty decent jojo. But in his respective part, i don't like him
noble haven
either way it was a pretty cool line
minor ore
Seems like generic shonen motivational badassery stuff
ember light
Jotaro says something like "Im tired of people telling me things are impossible"
minor ore
Ehhh... Seems to me like he said that because of all the weird shit he was suddenly exposed to over the course of a month
faint rivet
Yeah that's believable
minor ore
I'd take part 3 jotaro over jonathan any day
minor ore
Yeah they changed a lot of stuff in the ova i get why you don't prefer it
noble haven
yeah and the artstyle sucks
minor ore
But the animation quality is just superb
ember light
ova wasnt meant to be a direct adaptation
it was for people who were already fans of the series
minor ore
And jotaro is blue!
ember light
I can understand why they would change things
ember light
Satoshi Kon in a genius and the ova adds a lot to the final fight
if you dont like the artstyle I think thats just you
minor ore
The changes to fights are better imo
noble haven
Nah the artstyle kinda pp
minor ore
They go by much more quickly
noble haven
either way manga most superior
faint rivet
minor ore
Wait are you talking about the 2000s one?
noble haven
early 90s
minor ore
Dio and kakyoin looked weird but the rest was solid
noble haven
Jotaro looked weird
minor ore
Only on the final episode
noble haven
Also is it me or is the part 3 colored just really bad
the colors feel unusual as fuck at times
minor ore
Part 1-3 colored is disgusting
Part 4-6 colored is basic and not exciting
Part 7 colored is really good
Part 8 colored goes WILD
They seem to be doing a ton of color switching which is just fantastic
noble haven
part 8 colored kinda good and kinda bad
faint holly
Agreed
noble haven
I like b&w part 8 more than colored personally
minor ore
It's bad at first when they're trying to figure out what they want, just like in 7
noble haven
part 7 colored is way superior imo
faint holly
For sure. The color team went ham on part 7
minor ore
Did the colorig team change for 7-8?
Doesn't seem like the same handiwork
Especially comparing late part 6 to early part 7
noble haven
overall jojo is better experienced in b&w except for maybe part 7 and some people would argue part 7 is even better b&w
minor ore
Honestly i think 8 is better with colors, and i only read up to doobie wah part 1 in colored
No colors beyond that were available at the time
But the stuff they do later is just jawdropping
faint rivet
i read up to i think blue hawaii in color which i think is where it's stopped currently
minor ore
I caught up to b&w jojolion somewhere around when mamezuku was revealed
Been waiting monthly ever since
faint rivet
i caught up to b&w at chapter 100 😔
ive only had to wait for one issue
well now two
noble haven
not for me
faint rivet
jojo was my first manga, so i wanted to read it colored because it was the most like comic books here
noble haven
I also like to experience manga in the way that the creator intended it to be
unless the creator himself says "this way is better than the original way"
faint rivet
and so i read as most as i could in color form until i had to switch over
noble haven
that's why I don't like most remakes
minor ore
Also b&w is good because there's something deeply satisfying about seeing scribbles for shading
noble haven
and because araki's art is good lol
minor ore
sometimes it's ugly
minor ore
Bodies still look wonky at times
faint rivet
minor ore
What araki nails really well though is motion
ember light
araki fixed most of his weird body proportion shit he had going on after the first few parts
faint rivet
his worst work was with carne and that's just because of character design
luckily he died after being in like, 3 panels
minor ore
What i mean with bodies is they look stiff when it's just skin
noble haven
No araki's art is mostly good
minor ore
It's noticeable on joshu
minor ore
His arms look like those of action figures
noble haven
Nope looks fine to me
noble haven
Nope too
faint rivet
his early work was a bit rough, but it was his early days in manga making so it's excusable
noble haven
Still looks fine
minor ore
Fine but not as good as some others
faint rivet
minor ore
Like gappy ALWAYS looks good because his clothes are a bit baggy, perfect for folds which araki is perfect at doing
faint rivet
faint rivet
everything looks good
minor ore
I'm interested in going deep into what makes it look good
faint rivet
araki's work was put in the louvre for a reason
minor ore
Most people look at faces but there's a shit ton more going on
Like the environment drawing in JJL is out of this world
noble haven
Indeed
minor ore
Trees, landscapes and even buildings all look so real
I'm trying to find good examples of what i mean but mangadex is so slow lately
But generally characters with more clothes look better since araki's clothing folds are amazing
Every illustration is brimming with motion and it's best shown on the clothing
Plus the arms look like twigs
He never got over the sausage arms
bleak heron
Araki can color Rohan bout not any other Jojo parts
sudden nymph
Do you guys think les filluis or whatever could potentially allow Gappy to use the infinite spin since they were created from it
near cedar
The wot?
sudden nymph
I’m pretty sure I was close somehow
But I know I didn’t say it 100% right
I mean it might make since
Since they were created from the infinite spin they might have infinite spin energy
I just feel like they weren’t fully used and were kind of just forgotten about it was the most pointless battle in jojolion ( although it wasn’t the worst fight)
The only other way to use the infinite spin without horse would probably be to use already existing infinite spin energy
simple kraken
True
faint rivet
Les Feuilles is how it's spelled
kind owlBOT
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faint rivet
Hell yeah
viral plume
I mean, that theory hasnt actually ever been proven @sudden nymph
Its a theory that has a nice basis for itself, but thats it, a theory, there is no statement in part 8 that confirms or denies that Les Feuilles was made through the infinite spin
junior coral
That’s a good one
junior coral
🤨
kind owlBOT
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sudden nymph
@viral plume is there any official backstory for it
viral plume
No, its just "shakedown road has a stand, deal with it"
sudden nymph
I’m sorry but I’ll just head canon that it’s made by the infinite spin because that doesn’t make any sense
inland oyster
Why would it be the spin? Ain’t it more logical for the corpse parts to grant stands
sudden nymph
I guess it could be but wouldn’t the corpse just grant everything a stand then
inland oyster
No?
It would just be Jesus fucking with Johnny because Jesus is an asshole
viral plume
Dude, we got Sugar Mountain Spring, which is a tree with a stand, I find it completely possible that the walleyes or the bitemarks just affected a tree and we gots les feuilles
sudden nymph
Well as much as the tree thing is weird it is a living being
viral plume
Exactly, I dont think its that much of an issue
sudden nymph
I just don’t believe the corpse would grant a non living thing a stand
This is the first time we saw a non living thing with a stand (that’s canon)
viral plume
Well, I repeat, sugar mountain spring
sudden nymph
That’s the trees stand it is weird but trees are living life
viral plume
Ye, just like Les Feuilles
sudden nymph
A road isn’t alive
viral plume
Well, it very much seems to be connected to the tree, because they only move under the leaves
inland oyster
It’s not the road it’s the leaves
viral plume
Ill go grab the arc
sudden nymph
So apparently it has no user and is a natural phenomenon
Which just wants me to say it was created from the spin even more
Of course there is no proof it was created from the spin but that’s my only explanation for why it’s there
The holy corpse hasn’t shown to grant a stand to nothing
@viral plume
It does say believed but usually when araki says that it means it’s true
viral plume
I mean...yes, its believed to be of no stand user, thats an insanely vague description. But we know its done through leaves, which leads me to believe its tied to the tree
Mabye even to the entire plant network, because there are multiple trees in the area
viral plume
I mean...I will be more confident in saying mine has more credence to it, since we already know of sugar mountain spring, while yours relies allot on coincidence of Johnny galloping through that specific street
sudden nymph
Well if you don’t take vauge descriptions into account then why do you believe the tree is the Stand master of sugar mountain
If I’m remembering right it says the tree is probably the user
viral plume
Thats exactly why, I am utelising a previously shown phenomenon of stands in the sbr universe and applying it here, since it very much seems tied to it
sudden nymph
But using your argument the tree isn’t the user of sugar mountain because it’s extremely vauge
@viral plume
Also sorry I didn’t respond sooner was in a car going somewhere
And sugar mountain isn’t a phenomenon because it has a user
Why would araki hint that it’s doesn’t have a user if it has a user
That makes no since
The description is vauge because it’s not 100% confirmed that’s the case but obviously there is a high chance because araki specifically stated it might have that
If the stand goes a completely other direction with the stand why include that it’s believed that it doesn’t have a user
And also the leaves when they come down are dead or close to death so how could they be the user if they are dead or almost dead
near cedar
The stands only appear under the leaves
And don't they mention the trees/leaves being the user a bit later
sudden nymph
Yeah them appearing under the leaves are just that an ability that’s the stands specific ability you have to step on the leaves
If it was something like them being the stand of the leaves don’t you think he would at least hint at it in the description instead of hinting they have no user
@near cedar and no they don’t
near cedar
If it was something like them being the stand of the leaves don’t you think he would at least hint at it in the description instead of hinting they have no
Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't
Idfk what he thinks
sudden nymph
I can understand just not hinting at it but why would he hint at something completely different
This guy is saying because the description is a little vauge that just means it’s not true
minor ore
Les feuilles is the street's stand!
sudden nymph
It’s never stated that it is I thought it was but it isn’t @minor ore
minor ore
Maybe it was just the wind
sudden nymph
But why
near cedar
It's not the street's stand, it can be the tree's stand
minor ore
But why only the trees on that specific street
It's way simpler being the street's stand
sudden nymph
I could be but araki is obviously hinting at something else if you use that argument you shouldn’t believe the tree is the user of super mountain because it says probably @near cedar
minor ore
I'm not even sure it IS a stand
sudden nymph
It’s stated it’s a stand
minor ore
So was earth wind and fire
sudden nymph
No it said it might be
minor ore
IIRC it said it was a stand but the guy couldn't see stands
So just because something is said to be a stand doesn't necessarily mean it is
sudden nymph
Show me where’s it stated to be a stand
sudden nymph
Ok
minor ore
I just like to think there's random spots around the jojo world with supernatural activity, makes it seem more mysterious
near cedar
There are
This isn't one of em
The stand appeared after Johnny died there with Jesus' corpse iirc
simple kraken
the walleyes are a devil's palm equivalent
Well basically
The corpse has the power of infinity and fortune I think
And people get stands from that
sudden nymph
@near cedar if you believe that the leaves or trees are the stand then you shouldn’t believe that sugar mountain’s user is the tree because that’s ignoring vauge information and it’s stated it might be the user
It is never stated it is the user 100%
minor ore
Sugar mountain's user was daiya
simple kraken
Big brain
sudden nymph
That panel specifically says it is believed that les fielles doesn’t have a user and sugar mountain is stated that the tree might be the user if you don’t take arakis vauge information then you are being a little bit of a hypocrite
At least If you believe sugar mountains user is the tree
near cedar
Sugar mountain can't have anything else being the user
The people in it are trapped
Nothing else can be the user
sudden nymph
But it never says it is the user it says it might be the user
Technically another person off in the middle of no where could be the user and have no idea it could be a stand that acts on its own like Rolling Stones
Superfly is a electrical tower with a stand in it so technically the tree could be the stand
But I don’t believe that
But with your logic it could be
young meteor
Sugar Mountain is Daiya => Daiya is a rock human.
faint rivet
wowza
sudden nymph
I know it’s a long argument
young meteor
viral plume
I guess in this case I would apply accums razor: it says the tree might be the stand, ill take that explanation over something ooga booga like a far away unconsious stand user.
inland oyster
Sugar mountain doesn’t have a user doe huh
Can anyone just pull one of them Araki books that explain the stands?
viral plume
I dunno, I have been away playing DS3 and getting creamed in pvp, I just saw that big comment tower from CEO
sudden nymph
I agree with you for sugar mountain but that’s what you are doing with les fuilles you are just saying this information is vauge so I’m going to say it’s something entirely else
@viral plume
viral plume
That to me? Or the other bois?
sudden nymph
You and erikson
viral plume
Yeah, I guess its just the stand of the road, I can concede that
Its a really really really weird one
sudden nymph
You believe it’s user is the leaves but it hints at that it doesn’t have a user im saying with that logic you shouldn’t believe sugar mountain’s user is the tree
Ok sorry I already started typing that and I didn’t want to stop
viral plume
Well, in sugar mountains case it cant be anythign but the tree
sudden nymph
Read what I said earlier it potentially could
viral plume
While with Les Feuilles...I have no clue whats going on with that one
Given the information we have, accums razor, its the devils palm itself thats the stand user almost
Also, vegans gay btw
near cedar
Superfly is a electrical tower with a stand in it so technically the tree could be the stand
That has a human user wut
viral plume
Also, KQM, whats that?
viral plume
I dont wanna get deleted
sudden nymph
I’m saying technically the tree could be the stand itself
I don’t believe that but I’m saying it could
viral plume
And I think with every comment I have given, I agree and that has largely been my point
This really is an interesting topic
sudden nymph
I like it too
@near cedar why is the tree the only possibility it could potentially be a stand like Rolling Stones that acts on its own with your logic on les fuilles
near cedar
He said that, I was just saying what I remember understanding and what I remember is that the bastard tree/leaves are probably the user because the damn Saint corpse did it's shit mear them
sudden nymph
That is his argument
viral plume
My reason why I thought it could be the trees was because the stand hid under the tree's leaves, I thought the stand possibly came from the tree itself as the leaves fell from the trees
sudden nymph
Yeah if you bothe believe it could then that argument still works
near cedar
... yes I agree with the argument... I'm not using the logic your talking about tho
viral plume
Poggers
sudden nymph
Yeah if you say you think the leaves are the stand then that argument works as long as you believe the tree is the user of sugar mountain
near cedar
That is indeed what I've been saying
sudden nymph
Yeah so that argument I made works
near cedar
The Tree is the user of Sugar mountain, the tree is the user of idk the name
viral plume
I think the theory of les Feuilles being created through the saints corpse, when Johnny did that equivilant exchange, is an interesting one, but im going off of the assumption that its from the wall eyes, joshu theorised that aswell in the arc
sudden nymph
near cedar
I think the theory of les Feuilles being created through the saints corpse, when Johnny did that equivilant exchange, is an interesting one, but im going off of the assumption that its from the wall eyes, joshu theorised that aswell in the arc
He did?!
sudden nymph
If you don’t believe this then you shouldn’t believe the tree is the user of sugar mountain
near cedar
Damn I don't remember Joshu theory
sudden nymph
But how
viral plume
Devils palms are really fucking weird bro
sudden nymph
But you need to be by the wall eyes
How did the wall eyes bite nothing and or the street and or the leaves of shakedown road
sudden nymph
I’m going to stick with what was hinted at in the official description
viral plume
Thats fine, we are moreso discussing the original activation/creation of the stand
And I think thats becuase of the wall eyes
sudden nymph
Maybe it doesn’t Matter since they are never going to come back
sudden nymph
Let’s face it they probably won’t
viral plume
No- NO, dont speak your lies to me, you devils spawn
sudden nymph
The only reason they would come back is if they were made from the infinite spin
Why would they come back if they did nothing
viral plume
I mean...they didnt really do nothing, its because of the way people act there because of the stand that Joshu got Nut King Call
sudden nymph
Well not nothing
Sorry I worded that wrong
I just don’t see why they would come back if they weren’t made from the infinite spin especially since we are in the endgame
viral plume
In all seriousness, I agree, I feel like we only could have les feuilles come up if we somehow get it revealed that the wall eyes the bitemarks and les feuilles were all explained together
Possibly done through that initial equivelant exchange from johnny with the corpse
supple totem
les feuilles what is that
faint rivet
shakedown road's stand
sudden nymph
It’s literally just French for leaves
sudden nymph
Are you having a stroke?
faint rivet
probably
sudden nymph
Can soft and wet still do the crafting thing we see it do in the flashback
hard meteor
if you mean the thing with the branch,than nah i think that was something only pre fusion soft and wet could do
faint holly
Chapter 102 coming out 2 weeks from now, right?
hard meteor
Yeah
willow crystal
primal lintel
amazing
faint rivet
Absolutely phonomenal
minor ore
starts part 8
regret
faint rivet
trust me bro it gets weirder
faint rivet
part 6 was awesome what're you on about
but trust me on this
jojolion get's much weirder and more confusing
restive epoch
idk the 4 balls is probably one of the strangest elements of jojolion
proper hinge
I’m now used to your name colour.
faint rivet
mine?
proper hinge
Yes.
restive epoch
maybe i'm just desensitized to the rest of it
faint rivet
at least the 4 balls somewhat makes sense
near cedar
when i started part 6 everyone said it’d get better
That's because part 6 is great
vernal portal
Part 6 is my favorite, I mean the writing is terrible, but the characters, concepts, and atmosphere is wonderful. When I think a back to it, the whole vibe is just amazing.
hard meteor
what was that first part bro 
vernal portal
Part 6 is my favorite
kind owlBOT
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hard meteor
the one after that
hard meteor
even with that the writing was good for the most part
vernal portal
The Maximum Security arc. Need I say more
hard meteor
Meh the fights weren’t that bad
Survivor and yo yo ma I can understand, but dragons dream and planet wives where alright
faint rivet
planet wives
vernal portal
Well, it my favorite part as well, so I can't say I dislike anything else, except alot of emporio in the beginning and almost very end.
It just felt kinda forced to me.
sudden nymph
The maximum security arc had one of the actual few araki forgot moments
near cedar
What is it?
sudden nymph
Planet waves being originally named Earth Wind and Fire