fuck d7
#jojolion
coral moss
analog skiff
^ @ruby river
coral moss
all my homies like d8
ruby river
the problem is the dumb name
bright hedge
People say stuff like D8 bad and then the fight is gonna be sick in the anime
inland oyster
But on a serious note
bright hedge
In 2045
minor ore
Maybe the jojolion were the friends we made along the way
analog skiff
if d8 didn't exist rai would have zero reason to attack the head doctor and get killed
inland oyster
I think it’s short and dynamic
tepid nebula
Still hate it tho
inland oyster
Just okay
deft flume
Part 8 Spin? Pog time?
tepid nebula
But the monthly wait is part of that
ruby river
Not really
analog skiff
also yeah lloyd lmao
noble haven
lmao this magicedge dude is seething incredibly
ruby river
I’m still mixed about spin in part 8
tepid nebula
Reading it all at once it’s probably fast as f
analog skiff
bitch the fight IS d8
inland oyster
Jojolion’s pacing is kind of messy with monthly release
minor ore
bro why didn't mamezuku just use spin THIS WHOLE TIME
coral moss
this is likely one of the first parts that people are reading as it comes out tho
maybe sbr for some people
minor ore
HE COULD'VE DONE THAT BUT NOOOOOO HE HAD TO GET JOSUKE SHOT
deft flume
Part 8 having stuff from my fave part? This is truly a poggers moment
ruby river
@minor ore cause he fucking didn’t knew
tepid nebula
He may know of soon
coral moss
he only realized the spin stuff after the bubbles shot him
deft flume
“or maybe it's like hamon where stands are all just super hamon and soft & wet's bubbles actually do use SOMETHING like the spin to work”
tepid nebula
Spin* but he may not know how to utilize it like that
crude umbra
from the start he already knew which is cool, also got this cool shot while re-reading
ruby river
he only got the base concept when getting to know how josukes bubbles function
he doesnt knows how to utilize it
bright hedge
I doubt Rai actually knows spin, his wording implies that he figured out that it was spinning that did what happened to him
Not as if he recognized it
inland oyster
I should really reread the HD arcs
ruby river
^
tepid nebula
Not unheard of that he may know what it is tho
analog skiff
https://twitter.com/julienforts/status/1295818719617318918 while i prefer d8 this is funny af
Twitter
tepid nebula
jojo characters are very knowledgeable
coral moss
idk he says the phrase "the spin"
tepid nebula
It wasn’t it was just short lol
bright hedge
coral moss
im sure there's more mamezuku ass in the future
analog skiff
head doctor with a gun
minor ore
sob are you sure
analog skiff
head doctor with a gun
inland oyster
Why doesn’t WOU use its Kars blades to attack
coral moss
wou is a lil bitch
ruby river
Also
minor ore
^
minor ore
WOU is like that annoying cousin
bright hedge
The crucified teddy bear signifies jesus dying at the cross corpse coming into play confirmed 
minor ore
who tries to kill anyone who approaches them
coral moss
if i were there, i would simply beat wou and win
inland oyster
Does WOU’s clothes mean we’ve been seeing it naked for most of the year
ruby river
Since calamity and wou existed ever since rai was a kid
coral moss
wait yeah how old is tooru
ruby river
does that means that tooru is a pedo?
bright hedge
Pfft
inland oyster
summer nova
YOOOOOO
minor ore
maybe 1000 years
summer nova
THAT CHAPTER WAS AMAZING
bright hedge
That's not where I thought you were going ahahaha @ruby river
inland oyster
Naked stand.
Naked stand.
minor ore
now i have nudes of Wonder of you
ruby river
@bright hedge is that good or bad
kind owlBOT
@ruby river, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
icy bluff
Alright I changed my mind about spin not coming back.
minor ore
it's coming baaaaack
hard meteor
highschool
minor ore
yea maybe
summer nova
THE 「FLOW」 VS THE 「SPIN」
coral moss
why in the hell did tooru go to high school
ruby river
Yeah high school
icy bluff
I don’t think it’ll be the same as Jonny and Gyro’s spin though.
deft flume
ngl wonder of u kinda cute here 😳
minor ore
he just wanted to lern
coral moss
he had to learn that we live in a society 😦
minor ore
"Kids, today we're gonna learn about rock humans"
Tooru: "Oh f u c k"
icy bluff
I think he’s going to use it to negate WOU’s “flow”.
bright hedge
Well people will probably start to question why this old man isnt dying at some point @coral moss
coral moss
but he isn't the old man
he's looked like he does for a long time
actually my man runs a hospital
minor ore
The old man and tooru control the stand right
coral moss
he definitely needed to go to school
inland oyster
There is no old man
bright hedge
I know but the stand has an official position as the head doctor, people will probably question how this man is still alive when hes been there for like another 20 years lmao @coral moss
ruby river
@minor ore old man doesn’t exist
minor ore
...there isnt
hard meteor
the old man IS tooru
minor ore
the
crude umbra
is josuke's bubbles blowing rai's head a new thing?
minor ore
o
tepid nebula
technically
Rock human don’t age relative to humans so Tooru could still have been considered a teenager
bright hedge
So he gets his diploma then becomes the head doctor himself when "akefu retires"
ruby river
and tooru is at least 50 years old imo
coral moss
that's big plays
kind owlBOT
@coral moss, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
coral moss
except that he will still look like a teenager
icy bluff
This chapter lowkey makes me think that Rai is the Jobro because he’s dying.
coral moss
rai's been dying for most of his appearances
tepid nebula
Yasuho is the job to
analog skiff
tepid nebula
Jobro*
coral moss
yeah a real weirdo
inland oyster
True...
minor ore
inland oyster
It’s all true...
crude umbra
i thought paper moon guy was the jobro
icy bluff
@analog skiff Very convincing.
bright hedge
@analog skiff I mentioned that however I think that surely it wouldve been mentioned in the rai flashback already
coral moss
tsurugi's been antagonistic for a bit
hard meteor
tsurugi? hes bound to be an atagonist
crude umbra
Spin
bright hedge
So either rai isnt dying just yet and him being a zeppeli is being saved for later or he just isnt
minor ore
i want to beat tsurugi to death
ruby river
Rai despite being introduced lately IS the jobro
tepid nebula
Tsurugi for part 9 antagonist? Hmmm
tepid nebula
It’s Yasuho, on paper, she has 10x more of a “partner” pairing than Rai
minor ore
mamezuku last attack ? I say Spin wdym
ruby river
imagine an antagonist with not an “op force” stand
tepid nebula
Recently not much so tho
minor ore
did Yashuo get out of the toilet...
crude umbra
why rai has a hole in his chest tho
coral moss
yasuho got saved by joshu
ruby river
Bubble
minor ore
ok good
inland oyster
Wonder what she’s doing
tepid nebula
So none
minor ore
going to jail again
coral moss
it looks like rai rips open his own chest or something
tepid nebula
Even if Jobin was framed as the main villain he’s still pretty OP
coral moss
ofc he's just tearing his shirt, but it looks like that
minor ore
Did he get donuted?
icy bluff
Maybe Rai can repair himself by spinning the lines in his chest.
Similar to what Jonny did to walk.
tepid nebula
Sleeping in her hammock @inland oyster
bright hedge
@inland oyster planning her entrance speech as main villain duh
minor ore
Has anyone in Jojolion died
coral moss
no main characters yet
minor ore
except kira
icy bluff
Yes
inland oyster
Yes
tepid nebula
Many rock humans
minor ore
oh yeah the rock humans
tepid nebula
Brutally
inland oyster
Kira and Josefumi didn’t technically die I think
They merged together to form Josuke
tepid nebula
Kira dead
minor ore
yasuho got saved by joshu
@coral moss no Joshu listening to Jobin instruction so something's going to happen with yasuho but no saved i guess
bright hedge
All the rock humans except yotsuyu who's basically dead
coral moss
well yasuho isn't in immediate danger
tepid nebula
What?
bright hedge
Right
tepid nebula
Joshu literally said he’s going to help her
minor ore
Yashuo is gonna go home
tepid nebula
Joshu already ignored Jobin instructions
minor ore
why were they spitting asbestos again?
coral moss
d8
minor ore
she's been drowning for a long time
hard meteor
jobins on his own lmao
inland oyster
It’s the ability
hard meteor
hes not gonna help him at this point
bright hedge
why were they spitting asbestos again?
@minor ore D8s ability
minor ore
what a strange ability
tepid nebula
Joshu said*
inland oyster
Jobin’s very dead ngl
minor ore
thanks
tepid nebula
He’s getting the hot pants treatment
coral moss
i wonder how jobin and co are going to tie back into this
tepid nebula
God forbid
coral moss
obviously jobin got very hurted
minor ore
Good news is, the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show a median latency of forty-four point six years, so if you're thirty or older, you're laughing. Worst case scenario, you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face.
inland oyster
They’re gonna beat WOU and we’ll go back to the Higashikata house
minor ore
@coral moss Joshu don't know Jobin passed so I think he saves him
bright hedge
i wonder how jobin and co are going to tie back into this
@coral moss kaato 👏 main 👏 villain 👏
inland oyster
Jobin main villain
tepid nebula
Anything is off the table now but I just cannot see Kaato at this point
minor ore
tsurugi that little fucker is the main villain
icy bluff
Soft and Wet has an A in development potential so maybe ch 101 will show us a stand evolution.
inland oyster
The flashback guy irritates me so much
coral moss
i hate that people keep bringing him up
ruby river
They’re gonna beat WOU and we’ll go back to the Higashikata house
@inland oyster yes or they’ll go to the higashikata house while fighting wou
tepid nebula
What about the baby with the Jewels
minor ore
why?
inland oyster
COME ON ARAKI, TELL ME WHO HE IS
analog skiff
flashback guy is actually an enemy stand from a real life person
minor ore
Why mamezuku talking about rotations / Spin ?
analog skiff
who acts like wonder of u, every time we mention him part 6 anime gets delayed another day
inland oyster
He noticed the bubbles spin
minor ore
SBR reference ?
bright hedge
Yall who are doubting go watch aeonstars latest video, obviously it's not gospel and could easily be wrong but I dont think kaato is off the table by any means
ruby river
@minor ore cause he noticed how bubbles spin
inland oyster
What
minor ore
nvm
tepid nebula
U not slick 👀
minor ore
kaato?
bright hedge
It at least narratively makes sense for kaato to become a main villain, whether she actually will...who knows
ruby river
kaato’s stand though
minor ore
Next chapter Soft and wet Act 2 Reveal
tepid nebula
Wait is it on the table or off the table
minor ore
15 years in prison... sounds familiar
isn't that the number of years Jolyne was supposed to be in prison
bright hedge
Just watch the video damn it 😂 @tepid nebula
coral moss
do we know what kaato does besides cards
tepid nebula
@bright hedge Tooru is one thing
icy bluff
I feel like Kaato only exists to explain Jobin’s backstory.
tepid nebula
No I mean the saying
icy bluff
I could be wrong tho.
minor ore
bro Jolyne and Kaato have to be related somehow
coral moss
off the table means it's no longer an option
bright hedge
Go watch the video 😤
inland oyster
I think one of my favorite parts of Jojolion is how little Josuke and Johnny are related.
tepid nebula
But yeah Tooru is one thing but it can’t be Kaato at this point
Ohhhhh I see @coral moss thanks
ruby river
Please let’s not make random connections @minor ore
minor ore
how the fuck is it kaato
inland oyster
Every other part deals with it’s the Joestar family legacy but Josuke’s dealing with rock people
coral moss
there's never been a red herring villain in jojo
minor ore
It's a shame we haven't seen what's going on with the higashikata property 😔
15 years can't be a coincidence
maybe next chapter
tepid nebula
So yeah
bright hedge
@minor ore go watch aeonstars latest video, again I'm not saying its gospel I'm saying it's a possibility
kind owlBOT
@tepid nebula, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 11 !
tepid nebula
Tooru is one thing but it’s been TOO long for Kaato
Unless Jojolion is like 170 chapters
minor ore
how is kaato a main villain
icy bluff
When the story goes back to the higashikata’s I think Joshu will get a stand evolution because he has an A in development potential.
minor ore
what did she do
coral moss
development potential is the fakest stat in jojo
summer nova
YO IMAGINE IF ARAKI PULLS OUT QUANTUM MECHANICS OR STRING THEORY NEXT CHAPTER
coral moss
he talked about string theory already once before i think
minor ore
Why are u talk about 15 years of prisons? i'm confused @minor ore
tepid nebula
She doesn’t even meet the qualifications imo
summer nova
he talked about string theory already once before i think
@coral moss not really
tepid nebula
Not one
bright hedge
Please go watch the video @tepid nebula
icy bluff
I think Joshu is going to fight Tooru to save Yashuo.
tepid nebula
other than characterization
summer nova
it has only been mentioned before that gappy's bubbles are strings
tepid nebula
I will @bright hedge
summer nova
but string theory itself hasnt been mentioned
minor ore
I think Joshu is going to fight Tooru to save Yashuo.
@icy bluff good though
Jolyne was supposed to be in prison for 15 years and Kaato was in prison for 15 years now maybe there isn't a connection I just wanted to point it out
bright hedge
Its just a reference @minor ore
minor ore
yes
coral moss
also how did kaato go to jail for 15 years for murdering a child
tepid nebula
They found the body
minor ore
there's so many things Araki is leaving out I gotta be sure
tepid nebula
And traced it
coral moss
yeah but 15 years
tepid nebula
She killed and buried a kid : /
inland oyster
Just tell me Araki. Who’s the mystery man
tepid nebula
She could have gotten life
coral moss
nah im saying that she probably would have gotten life
minor ore
@inland oyster The mystery man was Speedwagon all along
tepid nebula
Ohh
bright hedge
Remember kaato went to the stone ocean prison as well @minor ore
tepid nebula
Yeah idk lol guess that’s just how much she got
coral moss
i mean jolyne got 15 for alleged manslaughter
summer nova
what if the mystery man are the friends we made along the way?
bright hedge
They're just referencing part 6
minor ore
@bright hedge she did
tepid nebula
There were other counts on top of that tho
minor ore
waaaaaaaaait
coral moss
i guess it was a hit and run
simple kraken
Mystery baby can't be a rock human
tepid nebula
Like hiding the body, lying, etc.
coral moss
who's mystery baby again
simple kraken
The beach bany
bright hedge
who's mystery baby again
@coral moss baby who washed up on the motion shore 100 years ago
minor ore
@coral moss tooru is the mystery baby
coral moss
oh right
minor ore
actually tooru is all the babies
tepid nebula
I thought it was Tooru pre 99
minor ore
The mystery BABY is the mystery MAN
@inland oyster what
tepid nebula
After chapter 99 it just don’t make no sense
minor ore
kinda
tepid nebula
Unless there’s more to Toorus case specifically
minor ore
After? you mean after chapter 1
summer nova
@coral moss tooru is the mystery baby
@minor ore that is impossible, rock babies are like a centimeter or two big
bright hedge
And tooru is not the beach baby we saw toorus upbringing last chapter
inland oyster
My theory about the baby is that it isn’t meant to be explained. It was just to show how weird the environment was with Johnny’s corpse
minor ore
...yeah
summer nova
and when they turn 18 they rapidly grow in like a single day
coral moss
yeah it hasn't been resolved yet
inland oyster
Do we know what caused the rock disease
minor ore
So wait what do you mean?? tooru isn't a rock human?
tepid nebula
No he is
bright hedge
Theorised relationship between a rock human and normal human @inland oyster
tepid nebula
The bling bling baby most likely isn’t tho
coral moss
that baby wasnt tooru
bright hedge
Which ties into Kaato
tepid nebula
If he’s even still a plot point
minor ore
bling bling baby
inland oyster
It can’t be that since Rina got it while she was married
The disease started after Johnny transferred it to himself I believe
How she caught it is the question
coral moss
rina had the disease though
tepid nebula
Lmfaoooo
coral moss
the disease can't have started with johnny
inland oyster
It started to get passed down after Johnny transferred it to himself
The circumstances behind Rina’s rock disease aren’t similar to the rest of the family
tepid nebula
I thought Johnny ended the disease on his bloodline
coral moss
but then he died while taking the disease from george
it's genetic, but it can't have come from johnny
inland oyster
The first born gets the disease when they turn 10-12 and someone has to go through equivalent exchange to save them.
tepid nebula
11
minor ore
12
hasty heart
89
minor ore
desease? by johnny? make no sense , u mean higashikata family
limber yarrow
||lol spin is back|| chapter 100
minor ore
isn't it by johnny
hasty heart
im still confused
tepid nebula
Johnny ended it
hasty heart
wtf is rai talking about at the end
minor ore
ay Johnny's wife was a higashikata
robust ibex
speen
tepid nebula
That’s why Kira never had it iirc
minor ore
||lol spin is back|| chapter 100
Soft and Wet act 2 confirmed : )
limber yarrow
true
inland oyster
How did Rina catch it though?
hasty heart
and were those bubbles just strings spinning faster than those that make normal bubbles so were invisible and did loads of damage?
inland oyster
And why are her circumstances different?
coral moss
no one knows how rina got it
cinder fern
my favourite part of jojolion is when paisley park does the CHOOSE BETWEEN thing
fallow nexus
Aren't all of his bubbles spinning strings
tepid nebula
Maybe it was cuz it originally effected children
hasty heart
well yeah but these special bubbles in chapter 100
minor ore
oh right
bright hedge
Theres a big theory that came from one of the higashikatas having a relationship with a rock human
hasty heart
just kinda appeared
inland oyster
I guess Rina sexed a rock human?
hasty heart
lmao rock human std
tepid nebula
I mean anyone* but after Johnny used the corpse
minor ore
This all just leads to a dead end
coral moss
no one knows
inland oyster
Ok ok ok hear me out
tepid nebula
It started affecting the first borns m
minor ore
Araki hasn't finished the fucking story
inland oyster
What if
minor ore
Get ready for 100 more chapters
limber yarrow
basedpark does it again
bright hedge
I guess Rina sexed a rock human?
@inland oyster it said only male humans have produce offspring with a rock women not the other way around so it was one of the Norisukes
limber yarrow
i love godpark
coral moss
danny is a rock human
minor ore
huh
hasty heart
his translations in this chapter are confusing
coral moss
the little white rat
inland oyster
We got 100 chapters over the course of 9 years
inland oyster
Danny was a rock animal
minor ore
little fucker killed johnny's dad
inland oyster
Confirmed
tepid nebula
Brothet*
coral moss
definitely didnt do that
fallow nexus
He's the main villain of JJL
tepid nebula
Brother* not dad
coral moss
i miss nicholas 😔
limber yarrow
imagine if danny was the main villain
coral moss
that's why his childhood was so fucked up
tepid nebula
I thought Nicholas was boutta be a mean brother when he first appeared
grizzled pilot
what if joseph joestar (JJL) fucked a rock human
fallow nexus
Josuke also had a sister
tepid nebula
But he was actually a real one through and through
coral moss
nicholas is the nicest relative to a joestar in the whole series
grizzled pilot
joseph joestar (BT) married two pillar men, after all
tepid nebula
He was a GOAT fr
coral moss
except maybe tomoko ig
minor ore
Diego: It's free real estate
tepid nebula
Holly too
coral moss
oh yeah holly is goated
inland oyster
Joseph Joestar had an affair and that’s how Josefumi happened
fallow nexus
George II
tepid nebula
It’s kinda implied Diego may have had a hand in Nicholas death
grizzled pilot
its Up To You
sturdy fossil
hewwo
tepid nebula
@coral moss yep
grizzled pilot
hewwo
minor ore
What if Josuke was a rock human
sturdy fossil
is it allowed to talk about the new issue
coral moss
yeah
grizzled pilot
sure is
minor ore
He did look rock hard near yashuo
sturdy fossil
ok
minor ore
alright im out
inland oyster
Is there an explanation for the bite marks from the early chapters?
grizzled pilot
no horny in my good and pure JJL channel
minor ore
Yeah
coral moss
bite marks == effects of wall eyes/ devil's palm
minor ore
Is there an explanation for the bite marks from the early chapters?
@inland oyster iwasuke
grizzled pilot
and no, not really. there's plausible theories going around though
minor ore
yeah Joshu fucking bit him
hasty heart
chapter 1 joshu is clapped
sturdy fossil
okay okay so
"the thing josuke was hiding, in other words, the thing dragging out the calamity. Was this right? These soap bubbles were pulled to the surface. They're only floating there, but some of them were mixed in with the things spinning at high speed!"
tepid nebula
I wonder how he would have looked if Araki expanded on that design
sturdy fossil
wht the fuk did araki mean by that?
hasty heart
yeah my brain just imploded when i read that
coral moss
uhh
tepid nebula
Cuz he had hair on the sides and slanted eyes
hasty heart
not sure if thats a very good translation on dogparks part
inland oyster
wht the fuk did araki mean by that?
@sturdy fossil It might be a mistranslation
coral moss
i think "the things" is either intentionally vague or a bad translation
tepid nebula
there was another concept with Joshu and it looked like he had DISCOs hair
grizzled pilot
its unclear in the original, i think
minor ore
the thing obviously refers to "the thing"
grizzled pilot
thats a pretty uncharacteristically scuffed translation if that's not the case
hasty heart
just gotta wait for hi wa
coral moss
the 1982 film "the thing?"
hasty heart
has more detailed translations
minor ore
the thing
minor ore
ayo the t h i n g is moving at h i g h s p e e d s
minor ore
NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST TAKE SPIN FROM PART 7
haha spin go woooooosh
sturdy fossil
So the doctor is saying the soap bubbles were, like, slowing the flow of the calamity?
inland oyster
Yes?
sturdy fossil
thats kinda what I get taking in consideration what mamesuku says after about spin of good fortune or whatever
cedar relic
Wait so since Dogpark translated this chapter first, does that mean Kewl isn’t doing it anymore?
kind owlBOT
@cedar relic, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
minor ore
maybe
inland oyster
Kewl is still doing it
cedar relic
In the future or is he doing this chapter still?
minor ore
out of context it sounds like "the soap bubbles from your bath are slowing the flow of the calamity"
hasty heart
how the fuck does a spinning string prevent misfortune
inland oyster
The spin brings fortune
fallow nexus
spin
hasty heart
how
inland oyster
It just does
hasty heart
since when
fallow nexus
It just works
minor ore
hard to imagine this all started because a mouse killed someone's brother
inland oyster
Since SBR
hasty heart
if thats the case ima be really disappointed cus that literally is 'it just works'
sturdy fossil
but then what does he mean they were pulled to the surface?
and that some of them were mixed with the "things" spinning at high speed?
like what
coral moss
well it really started when a platoon got killed in the desert
minor ore
it's like King Crimson Requiem
inland oyster
The spin is kinda funky so I won’t question it too hard
minor ore
Things make even less sense
hasty heart
i thought the fundamentals of spin was gravity?
minor ore
no it's ball
coral moss
well we might learn more about the specifics
hasty heart
gravity has nothing to do with fortune lol
coral moss
but yeah it's gravity
minor ore
you throw and something wicked happens
frozen violet
Is he dead
hasty heart
ffs gravity again
coral moss
idk the infinite spin could pass through love train
minor ore
it's the golden ratio
inland oyster
Spin is related to a number of things and there’s some weird stand magic in there
hasty heart
thats cus it had some fuckery to do with like being gravity which persists through dimensional barriers
inland oyster
We’ll wait for the explanation
frozen violet
I really hope toruu isn't the main villain because this fight isn't great
hasty heart
so did josuke never actually have a stand he just had some weird spin ability
coral moss
i don't think he's talking about seeing stands
minor ore
no he had a stand for sure
hasty heart
well tf is he talking about then?
coral moss
it's hella vague
hasty heart
his donut hole?
minor ore
ok I mean Josuke's bubbles are circles
minor ore
circles with lines
hasty heart
araki about to hit us with string theory + spin
minor ore
ok circle made out of lines
frozen violet
They're not spheres
minor ore
I just stole friction from the ground
fallow nexus
They're actually steel balls
frozen violet
It really do be like that
frozen violet
Another word for steal
fallow nexus
Josuke be plundering calamity
frozen violet
Pirates plundered shit
minor ore
Like I can understand stealing friction from the ground but what??? SpiN??????
hasty heart
😮
inland oyster
It’s the retconned ability to remove properties from things
minor ore
do bubbles actually spin
hasty heart
nah
coral moss
these ones do
inland oyster
Josuke used it in the early chapters
hasty heart
unless theyre spinning
minor ore
ok here's my theory
frozen violet
I mean since they're spinning he can use them as blades
minor ore
Josefumi had the same stand as Josuke but he didn't have the line balls
minor ore
When he merged with Kira, Kira's spin changed the bubbles
coral moss
did kira have spin
frozen violet
Wait Kira's spin
inland oyster
No
minor ore
well
coral moss
i don't think killer queen had any sort of spin
minor ore
Kira was a descendant
coral moss
and it isn't genetic
inland oyster
It’s not genetic
frozen violet
You need training
minor ore
fuck's sake all my theories are wasted
frozen violet
It's not like Joesphs hamon
frozen violet
Is mamezuki dead tho
minor ore
alright how do you know they're not genetic
coral moss
well johnny used spin
sturdy fossil
mixed in with the things spinning at high speed
inland oyster
Because it isn’t
hasty heart
pretty sure steel balls arent genetic
frozen violet
Because they don't have a healer and he got donuted
sturdy fossil
cant get over that line lmao
hasty heart
johnny only got it cus of the corpse parts
coral moss
wekapipo just learned it
hasty heart
hamon isnt genetic either
frozen violet
Anyone can learn spin
inland oyster
I still like these panels so much
coral moss
well joseph had genetic hamon from jonathan
inland oyster
Hamon is genetic
hasty heart
lol snake mamezuku
minor ore
Josuke didn't learn spin
hasty heart
no its not
coral moss
but you can get hamon from other people e.g. zeppeli
bright hedge
star finger moment
hasty heart
hamon is a breathing technique
inland oyster
And it’s also genetic lol
frozen violet
You can transfer hamon
winter ridge
why does this say September 9th on it???
hasty heart
yeah they can 'give' the energy to you but thats not genetic
its literally not genetic
winter ridge
like there is a box, saying "september 9 2020"
coral moss
there's a reason why hamon died out
frozen violet
But Johnny didn't get a final spin
minor ore
h o w did josuke get spin
minor ore
that's why im tryna theorize
inland oyster
Apparently Hamon ‘gene’ can affect how good you are at it.
George didn’t train but had the potential.
Joseph didn’t train but was able to manifest it.
minor ore
but every one i make gets shot down
frozen violet
I don't think it's spin
bright hedge
he didnt he always had it, his stand ahs always been like that @minor ore
since the beginning
frozen violet
I think he just didn't understand how his stand worked and now he can try something new
coral moss
he didn't gain a new ability
bright hedge
he might do now that he knows its different
coral moss
yeah he can probably do something wacky now
bright hedge
from what he originally thought
frozen violet
Try digging with the bubbles
minor ore
it doesn't make any sense
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 29 !
bright hedge
but yeah its not like his stand has a new inbuilt ability though
inland oyster
He’ll learn a new technique
coral moss
johnny did dig a hole with his nails
frozen violet
Scooping people's flesh out with the bubbles
grizzled pilot
hamon is stupid and makes no sense and basically a completely different power in parts 1 and 2
frozen violet
Like he kinda did to mamezuki
coral moss
hamon is no good
inland oyster
YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT IS A BUILT IN ABILITY??
PLUNDER
coral moss
haha i made a leaf glider with my hamon
calm talon
I wonder if we’ll see the return of the golden ratio
minor ore
Hamon wasn't that bad
winter ridge
he just plundered rai's body
minor ore
it just needed more work
frozen violet
It can be creative
inland oyster
Hamon’s very convenient for the plot
frozen violet
It reminded me of nen
coral moss
it actually blows my mind when people say they like hamon more than stands
frozen violet
Yh because Rai is in his 20s
It would be weird to plunder someone 10 years older than you
hasty heart
@coral moss they the kind of people to say ‘but can he beat goku’
winter ridge
i know ive brought this up before but
coral moss
it sorta makes sense for people going through part 3 for the first time
frozen violet
Hamon is cool tho
winter ridge
HOW can the bubbles be so terrifying when before its shown that they act like little squishy balls, not like The Hand or Cream or smth
hasty heart
^^
minor ore
they can steal things
coral moss
the bubbles have been shown to destroy stuff
winter ridge
but only when the pop
hasty heart
they’re just spinning fast lol
winter ridge
they are always spinning fast tho
frozen violet
They can take your ability to breathe away
minor ore
they can steal your virginity
hasty heart
yeah but like
winter ridge
thats what the bubles are, every bubble spins fast
hasty heart
they’re spinning REALLY fast
frozen violet
And put it in a cute little ball you can't open
inland oyster
The bubbles have been shown to be able to carry things IIRC
winter ridge
yeah
bright hedge
coral moss
the spin did like grind peoples faces off
bright hedge
been spin since the beginning @minor ore
inland oyster
Also they’re not super hard. Just spinning really fast because of the calamity
winter ridge
they have never been shown to just obliterate people like that
hasty heart
wait
coral moss
calamity
hasty heart
i dont remember rai saying ‘like mine’
minor ore
Spin just fucking sucks man
frozen violet
I mean people are more scared of the hand and cream
inland oyster
The calamity’s able to make things go extreme
bright hedge
they have never been shown to just obliterate people like that
@winter ridge it was a calamity, rain has never been able to pierce someones skin either
hasty heart
like his what? does he have spin?
lost sage
possibly
coral moss
his strings
minor ore
like golden ratio? get that math outta here
coral moss
also i assumed that mamezuku had spin because he mentioned it
bright hedge
like his what? does he have spin?
@hasty heart hiis string, josukes stand is string, so is rais
coral moss
and then made his string spin
minor ore
throwing balls? i'll throw something at your balls
frozen violet
He's got stone free
inland oyster
I’m waiting on the other group to translate
hasty heart
stone free but f l a t
coral moss
hey it might not be just stone free anymore
minor ore
What was his stand again
inland oyster
My guess is that it’ll be more clear
coral moss
doggystyle lmao
bright hedge
and what does he peel into @hasty heart
hasty heart
Peelings
bright hedge
frozen violet
He never got his fingers back
hasty heart
Hehe
bright hedge
minor ore
"Hey Gyro, can you teach me spin?"
"Fuck do you want dumbass? no fuck you im not teaching you shit"
part 7 end
minor ore
wait really
frozen violet
Johnny just pestered gyro
bright hedge
where were you when part 7 is end
gyro called me on the phone
part 7 is end
no
frozen violet
😔 😔 😔 😔
lost sage
river pike
Hello
hasty heart
I WANNA SEE WHATS HAPPENING AT THE HIGASHIKATAS ARAKI
river pike
How are you
bright hedge
im good hbu
river pike
I am alive
bright hedge
just enjoying summer vacation
river pike
oh cool
inland oyster
Screw the Higashikata’s
bright hedge
university only starts for me in october so im chilling
inland oyster
I’ve been waiting on this fight for 6 months
river pike
What are you studying
bright hedge
data science and analytics
river pike
Nice
bright hedge
the D8 fight seems to be pretty divisive, i really liked it
i think itll become more popular if part 8 ever gets animated
river pike
Are you a fan of Drwho @lost sage
inland oyster
Also important to note that it feels badly paced because of the monthly release
signal swan
hasty heart
Bruh
kind owlBOT
@hasty heart, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !
hasty heart
like what’s the situation with jobin, norisuke, joshu and yasuho, what’s tooru doin
river pike
life is pain
@signal swan correct
hasty heart
Bread in french
inland oyster
Jobin - Crushed by pot, Dying.
Noriuske - Unconscious.
Joshu - Has the rokaka and wants to help Yasuho.
Yasuho - No arm, dying.
Tooru - Moving on the Higashikata house to get the rokaka.
winter ridge
when was he crushed by pot? i thought he just was stabbed and bleeding out
hasty heart
he got stabbed by the aerosol can tube then slipped and the pot pushed it further in
near cedar
hasty heart
? yeah he did he slipped over and the rokakaka pot fell onto the tube and pushed it further in
solemn kindle
day ruined
hasty heart
Yup
bright hedge
Also important to note that it feels badly paced because of the monthly release
@inland oyster
minor ore
Damn
solemn kindle
WE DIDNT EVEN SEE THE ESTATE
hasty heart
(cham)pagne
solemn kindle
60 DAYS TILL WE SEE THE ESTATE
hasty heart
it’s gonna be a mega chapter tho
minor ore
I wonder what Araki is doing when he’s not making chapters
solemn kindle
probably sleeping
bright hedge
this x100, its like recent arcs of one piece that people say have bad pacing, when you read some of these long running series all together as opposed to weekly or monthly its much better pace wise
minor ore
That’s a mood
solemn kindle
mangakas are overworked man
minor ore
Yea it’s pretty stressful
frozen violet
I would hate to be a mangaka
inland oyster
frozen violet
It'd would make me hate drawing
minor ore
If only there was a system in Japan that allowed mangakas to have more freedom
frozen violet
I don't think that's possible
inland oyster
I’m thinking of rereading the whole HD arc to get a better experience
minor ore
The thought of being a mangaka is terrifying
frozen violet
The fans would get pissed and demand more and the companies would lose money since it might take a while to get something out
Which sucks
It's really not fair to the mangaka
minor ore
It’s a really good thing Araki switched from weekly to monthly
mental quartz
RIP all the Joshu stans wanting his redemption this chapter hahaha
frozen charm
inland oyster
Now Erik. Let’s not come to crazy conclusions
frozen violet
I don't think he's using the spin
inland oyster
It’s dangerous to assume that Rai is somehow a descendant even though it lines up well
frozen violet
I think he just didn't understand how soft and wet worked
So now he can use it better
lost sage
satoru akefu is typing
limber yarrow
bruh
inland oyster
limber yarrow
i hope in next chapter joshu nuts
analog skiff
hi wa mata is out
inland oyster
Link
analog skiff
this makes 10x more sense
also sadly hi wa mata removed the teenager hd
this also makes 10x more sense
100x even
gilded stream
i liked that HD copypasta though
frozen violet
For chap 💯 of a manga it was a bit of a let down
lost slate
new jjl is out???
frozen violet
Yh
analog skiff
yeah since ages ago
frozen violet
Don't scroll up
gilded stream
@frozen violet disagree, this chapter was huge
inland oyster
This is still a lil confusing
analog skiff
i recommend you check both hi wa mata and dogpark
hi wa mata is more accurate but dogpark has more personality, as per the usual
analog skiff
no they're translators
frozen violet
Oh lmao
analog skiff
who both did 100 and had their own takes on it
inland oyster
“There are a few**,**containing objects you are making spin at high speed.”
Did they forget to put a comma smh
analog skiff
although tbh the only improvement dogpark has over the hi wa mata is this
frozen violet
I guess I read dogparks
inland oyster
Yeah HWM made a lot more sense
analog skiff
the hi wa mata is way less confusing
gilded stream
@inland oyster no that's grammatically correct?
analog skiff
i don't get why people act like dogpark is godlike when he really is super unclear compared to HWM
inland oyster
Yeah WOU just talks like a boring villain
gilded stream
it's the same thought
analog skiff
dogpark has more personality but for smth like jojolion
i'd say making the story actually clear is more important than full personality, sadly
simple kraken
so they both have their pros and cons
frozen violet
Maybe I'll read chap 99 and 100 with hwm
lost slate
yoooooo
analog skiff
yeah do that
inland oyster
Yeah it’s the same thought. They just forgot a comma lol
lost slate
that chapter is really good
analog skiff
at least 100 for HWM is significantly more clear
minor ore
Hello
frozen violet
Hi araki
minor ore
Hi
dire furnace
100 is out ???
kind owlBOT
@dire furnace, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
noble haven
hi wa mata is more accurate but dogpark has more personality, as per the usual
@analog skiff Facts
HWMN makes it more accurate in exchange for alien dialogue
frozen violet
Yh don't scroll up
inland oyster
It’s better to read both
minor ore
100 is out ???
@dire furnace yeah man its been out for a while
noble haven
So pick your pick
dire furnace
ok thanks
gilded stream
i sound it out with the comma, but it just doesn't sit right with me so I guess
analog skiff
that's a good way to put it tbh
dire furnace
gonna read it now
limber yarrow
i guess both of them are based
noble haven
I won't read HWMN's chapter since I already read Dogpark's and understood what happened
inland oyster
Kewl’s just being petty
cinder fern
alright huss
cinder fern
who is lpc
minor ore
Seems like a jojo theorist
analog skiff
also the HWM says that de do do do entered the room before and knows the layout
which now makes me imagine doctor wu playing around with his funky stick pet
simple kraken
I got that from dogpark too
analog skiff
lmao
lost slate
i got that impression with dogpark's translation
analog skiff
eh to me it was kind of unclear
lost slate
man this chapter was really good
analog skiff
it was just not directly stated
inland oyster
Dog park’s still good despite needing to be more clear
analog skiff
yeah something with the personality of dogpark but the clarity of hi wa mata would be godlike
inland oyster
Right now I just want to understand this
cinder fern
@analog skiff NO THE WAY YOU WORDED THAT
DOCTOR WU PLAYING AROUND WITH HIS FUNKY PET STICK
inland oyster
Ignore the spinning part
analog skiff
what?
gilded stream
reading HWM's translations feels so dull
dire furnace
ok im back , GAPPY HAS SPIN ?? IT WASNT FORGOTTEN ???
gilded stream
but i understand it at least
river mortar
hwm is a lot more boring but it makes a lot more sense
analog skiff
i'm more confused by this than anything
lost slate
gappy has spin
inland oyster
What is the HD talking about?
lost slate
that's rai
inland oyster
Like the bubbles are affecting the calamity somehow?
analog skiff
it's not the HD, it's rai talking about the string
river mortar
also in hwm it didnt refer to it as The spin so im confused
analog skiff
is the string a stand or what the hell is he talking about
inland oyster
I’m talking about the panels I posted lol
dire furnace
gappy has spin , S&W ; Act 2
lost slate
He's probably talking about Josuke's ability
gilded stream
@inland oyster HD believes Josuke hid a string in the bubbles and was spinning it with intent of hitting HD
when in reality the string is the bubble
dire furnace
Gappy has Ticket To Ride Requiem
analog skiff
actually no i think jeaton
noble haven
who is lpc
@cinder fern member here
analog skiff
i think there were actually objects inside the bubbles
but it was small bits and bobs
inland oyster
OH I SEE
dire furnace
Josuke spins right round baby right round
gilded stream
@analog skiff that's just hair
inland oyster
Alright that’s clear. The bubbles were there to spin fast and hit the HD when he tries to get close
analog skiff
yeah but it flies out of the bubble when it pops
why tf would there be hair in the bubble otherwise
noble haven
Again
Rai Mamezuku (Rai Zeppeli) is actually a Zeppeli because it was a said that a rumor that the Zeppeli's had moved to another country and became different people, so here the Zeppeli's moved to Japan and changed their name to Mamezuku
inland oyster
That’s Rai’s hair
analog skiff
i am rart
dire furnace
is this gonna lead to Josukes stand evolving ??
tired narwhal
Josuke is a Top
noble haven
it tells me it's explicit
gilded stream
alien talk
analog skiff
this is completely fine imo
what's so confusing
i understand the alien talk complaint a little
but this isn't confusing
inland oyster
“These soaps bubbles are what were showed themselves.”
gilded stream
@inland oyster it's in relation to what I explained earlier
analog skiff
yes, they did show themselves?
gilded stream
the bubbles with "high speed objects inside" hitting Rai were what HD assumed to be the calamity
analog skiff
what's so confusing about that?
inland oyster
I’m talking about the grammatical error
gilded stream
oh yeah
inland oyster
What were showed themselves
inland oyster
Oh nice
inland oyster
Gn
gilded stream
you too
hard meteor
Gn
faint rivet
Dang I tried to get to chap 100 by now but I'm still on Ozone Baby's Pressure
simple kraken
everyone dies on chapter 100
analog skiff
yo mom's the main villain
minor ore
EVen I die on chapter 100
simple kraken
pucci comes through a portal in time and resets the sbr universe
analog skiff
ant pucci*
minor ore
Pucci lays an egg causing the universe to implode
If you ever need a way to end part 6 use this
gilded stream
what does this panel apply in HWM
minor ore
in what?
gilded stream
the HWM translation of chapter 100
minor ore
ohh
gilded stream
does this imply WOU is not Tooru's Stand?
minor ore
Idk to me it looks like a bad translation
gilded stream
dogpark translation is different and follows the line of HD still being just a stand, but he's also notorious for having bad translation
grizzled pilot
since when lmao
gilded stream
have you not been following the latest chapters?
dogpark translations are unclear as hell
hard meteor
Not really
inland oyster
Me and my stand ability
hard meteor
That lines from hmwn
serene pasture
Honestly i kinda like how dogpark characterized WoU in this chapter more than how HWM did it, it actually seems like rai made a big move and took tooru off-guard, since he breaks his composed act and starts talking normally, rather than maintaining the act all the way through like a robot
gilded stream
Not really
@hard meteor act like we weren't trying to figure out what even happened earlier when the chapter dropped
inland oyster
HWM honestly makes more sense
gilded stream
HWM has much more clarity but robs emotion from it
inland oyster
And I wish some hybrid between dog park and HWM was a thing
serene pasture
The HWM one just seemed like he intentionally didn't cause a calamity or something and let Rai get close, then taunted him and struck him anyway. The dogpark one makes it seem like WoU got caught off-guard and Rai's failure to remain composed was what maybe killed him. Get what i mean?
inland oyster
Yeah definitely
inland oyster
My strat is to just read dog park to get a more proper emotional understanding and HWM if there’s something I didn’t understand about the events
serene pasture
Also i'm pretty sure this chapter confirms Aeonstar's guess on what WoU's real trigger is, the whole 'trigger is what you believe it to be' thing
inland oyster
?
Rai’s family was affected by the calamity’s flow and they had no idea it was even a thing.
serene pasture
Good point
proper hinge
Josuke learns the spin confirmed.
drowsy fog
Confused HD is precious
inland oyster
WOU’s heavily implied to be reliant on pursuing
So how did Rai’s family get affected?
serene pasture
I was mostly referring to how in both versions the HD is thought to be like a fraud, or that he's constructed based on Rai and Josuke, 'you made Wonder of U' n stuff
Also you could argue that the insect that Rai saw was the trigger for the calamity but who knows
inland oyster
That was Rai’s assumption which got him beaten
serene pasture
It wasn't directly though, it was just Dododo De Dadada
inland oyster
Did he? He just went after the bug, not WOU
grizzled pilot
well, i'd say that was the implication that the doc was involved in some way
that's also why he turned up at the funeral
serene pasture
The hd may have been involved by just planting it there
inland oyster
Did Rai’s parents know something 👀
serene pasture
It's not like a mountain hunter would end up in an orchard or whatever naturally
inland oyster
When we got that backstory my understanding of it was that Tooru planted it there to kill Rai’s father
So I think there’s definitely something we don’t know about his parents
serene pasture
I think it was mainly cause he wanted the land they had, rock humans are very attached to that
inland oyster
Mmm it’s weird
grizzled pilot
no, she wasn't actually targeted by the stand, i think he's just saying that rei's life sucks and all his parents are dead and that he is at least partially responsible for it
serene pasture
or maybe he just did it for fun, "haha look Wu, imma go plant some random ass bug in this guy's house and hopefully kill him"
inland oyster
I don’t think so. HWM implies that the flow of the calamity itself caused the death of his parents.
So does dogpark
grizzled pilot
i don't think that's what actually happened, though
restive rose
is villain of jojolion kars traveling through a worm hole and crash landing into the alternate universe yet??
inland oyster
Yes
restive rose
ive waited 4- no 5 thousand years for this