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#jojolion
burnt quiver
serene pasture
if araki says emperor has no limit then it has no limit dude
near cedar
It's a close quarters assassination stand
minor ore
Lol no
near cedar
Yes
minor ore
Nope
minor ore
Still no
burnt quiver
brubrhurhbuhrb
cinder fern
this man was that same dude from the kars discussion
near cedar
Ik
near cedar
Holy crap I thought it was the other Josefumi lol
near cedar
And I see a different pfp and realize it's a different person
heavy ledge
Im the only josefumi in the server ig
cinder fern
how would Doctor Wu work as a protag stand
near cedar
Are you the one who's pfp was a very nice looking art of Funi
heavy ledge
I just painted another fumi and changed my pfp
near cedar
OH XD
Lmao u thought we got another Josefumi fan into the server who also set their name as his
Cuz I didn't realize you changed it lek
near cedar
He's cool af
Only others i'd consider truly good for mcs are Schott Key N. 1 and maybe Doctor Wu
Wait what
Schoot Key n. 1 is shit alone I'm pretty sure
serene pasture
I mean
serene pasture
maybe i just like my stands nerdy and kinda weak, but i think it could be really cool by itself
thorn marlin
Schott Key no. 2 vs Purple Haze
near cedar
A weak stand can't really beat any main villain stand
cinder fern
bruh in what world does purple haze not win
serene pasture
why do you think end-game powerups exist
hard meteor
those are usually given to decent stands
cinder fern
or funny my stand works like yours
near cedar
Who needed it cuz they were great but still too weak to beat the villain
That wasn't really endgame
It was used in N'doul
Well that scene was added in the anime
cinder fern
wait when in Ndoul i forget
near cedar
But I'm assuming Araki had input
cinder fern
you mean when he’s standing behind ndoul
near cedar
When Geb and Star Platinum go to hit each others user the screen distorted
And Gen kinda stops for a half a second
Geb*
Which Star Platinum uses to smash N'doul's chest
I can look for the vid if u want
cinder fern
please do
near cedar
Anyway imo Star Platinum time stop makes complete sense, cuz DIO and Joseph both have a similar stand with the same ability so Jotaro and DIO having similar stands with similar abilities makes sense imo
Kk gonna go find da vid
near cedar
Slow it down at the 42 seconds
burnt quiver
def an easter egg
not necessarily canon
the whole concept is that time isnt actually slowing down
theyre moving absurdly fast
for short bursts of time
near cedar
No time stops
burnt quiver
no
near cedar
It's magic
near cedar
It doesn't need to make sense
burnt quiver
ive never been wrong
near cedar
Idfc
near cedar
Your theory doesn't interest me
cinder fern
it could possibly be it manifesting early but
cinder fern
if its even legit a thing he obviously isn’t aware
it could just be cool animation too
near cedar
He wasn't aware yes
burnt quiver
i also think that hermes could theoretically stop time but doing so would kill her after the time stop
near cedar
I think the purpose was to foreshadow time stop for the people who were like "okay but why all of a sudden"
burnt quiver
because the only way she could do it is if she like
removed a sticker from herself or something
and then for a split second it would stop time
near cedar
If time stop was fast movement somebody would monologue about it
burnt quiver
literally so much of jojos is deliberately unexplained
and if they are explained, theyre explained waaaaaay later
i dont see why this is any different
i see the time stop the same way i see soft and wet
burnt quiver
sorry not the same way i see soft and wet
the same way soft and wet is described
soft and wet doesnt make bubbles, per say
it makes threads that rapidly shift around
making it look like bubbles
this is canon btw rai explains it
i think its a similar concept with The World
The World doesnt stop time, instead the speed of the user is increased to such an extent that theyre moving faster than the progression of time
this is ultimately just my own theory, and there are some inconsistencies (such as the knife throw actually stopping) - but i chalk most of them up as dramatic fluff
minor ore
Diego mentions that Tusk is able to move in the world of stopped time because of its power over gravity. That line wouldn't make sense if super speed was the result of "stopping time."
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 20 !
hard meteor
what about the oxygen tanks
burnt quiver
wdym
hard meteor
weren't those there so dio could breath in stopped time
burnt quiver
i honestly dont know when that happened
minor ore
They aren't different rules though, JOJOVELLER explains that Diego's Stand is just like Dio's Stand, with the timestop duration being shorter.
burnt quiver
I wasnt aware of that
near cedar
Technically the time stop is the same 5 seconds
near cedar
The Oxygen tanks are a reference to Holy Diver
burnt quiver
yeah i have no idea where the oxygen tanks even show up tbqh
minor ore
Dio can stop time for about 9 seconds, Diego can stop it for 5.
burnt quiver
eriksonn dio's "default time stop" isnt anything
he wasnt able to stop time for five seconds at first
minor ore
The length of stopping time is directly connecting to how well Dio is adapted to Jonathan's body, that's what was stated in JOJOVELLER.
burnt quiver
the first time the gang encounters him he happens to be able to stop time for 5 seconds
minor ore
Since he was better adapted to his new body, that was his new timestop length
burnt quiver
yeah
burnt quiver
I changed my mind
burnt quiver
The World Diego stops time with speed too
I have no evidence to back my theory up
But ill figure out some convoluted way to
Goodninght
frozen charm
Da world Diegos horse also moved so
minor ore
Jotaro's timestop length was correlated with his use of it, different from Dio.
near cedar
I fail to see why they'd decide to make it different
But okay then
Seems weird is all I'm sayin
minor ore
I guess, but that's the explanation Araki decided on.
near cedar
Oh well
minor ore
It makes sense to me because Joestar blood was the only way to completely adapt to Jonathan's body, which in turn would allow him to be in his prime.
But it's JoJo, things can be wacky
near cedar
Wonder how accurate his statement about eventually being able to go up to a minute was
Cuz DIO says that at sooome point in the fight
I can't remember exactly when tho
cinder fern
tbf it IS Dio talking
crude umbra
minor ore
I don't really want to get into this discussion, but no, D4C could not go to the universe we see in 1-6
@lost slate too late, you're in it, and he could
proper hinge
No.
minor ore
Yes.
lost slate
why are you responding to a message that i said like 5 days ago
This discussion is long over
simple kraken
it was an ultra specific stand ability that only allows the user to see messages from 5 days ago
cedar relic
I’ve been re-reading Jojolion and falling in love with it all over again
The Vitamin C arc is goated 
heavy ledge
Taste
near cedar
D4C can't go to the original universe because it is shown to only go to parallel universes
proper hinge
.
grizzled pilot
no spam
near cedar
I'm saying they were spaming
minor ore
Day 81 of saying fuck tooru until jobin gets revived
proper hinge
What happened to Norisuke being overprotective or something of josuke like telling Ayacucho she was banned but then being totally fine?
minor ore
Who tf is ayacucho
near cedar
Yasuho
minor ore
Fucking ayacucho lmfao
minor ore
Context probably
grizzled pilot
oh yah i gotcha
minor ore
why are you responding to a message that i said like 5 days ago
@lost slate because the injustice of your opinion could not be ignored
near cedar
Yea but Winter is correct so what injustice you are on about idk
minor ore
There are an endless amount of alternate dimensions/timelines, therefore if D4C searched long and hard enough, he'd find one that's just like the 1-6 universe, just not the actual same one, but still pretty much the same
near cedar
The parallel dimensions all have the same people in them
Those people are just slightly different in some cases
He wouldn't find one where Diego got a stone mask that doesn't exist in this universe and became a vampire
minor ore
You don't know that. Different events can lead to different people being born, and at different times
We don't know for sure there's no such thing as vampires, or stone masks, or that there was never a possibility for such a thing to exist
tepid nebula
No he wouldn’t
tepid nebula
So far Araki made it clear parts 1-6 and 7-8 are completely their own
minor ore
Ummm yeh? It's obvious
tepid nebula
Clearly but not to the person above
minor ore
damn
tepid nebula
Lmfao I don’t mean to sound harsh tho
loud lintel
Day 4 of saying fuck Tooru until Joshu kicks his ass
minor ore
Lmfao I don’t mean to sound harsh tho
@tepid nebula Nonono ur good
that's the most polite way to say it
tepid nebula
Lmao thanks
dapper patrol
Day 5 of saying fuck Tooru with Diavolo’s lice
minor ore
So far Araki made it clear parts 1-6 and 7-8 are completely their own
@tepid nebula that has nothing to do with the point I made, but ok
proper hinge
It does it means it’s in a completely different unreachable universe in a place D4C can’t reach ‘cause D4C goes to parallel universes not alternate so it can’t get to 1-6 universe,
Also why is everyone talking about this on jojolion chat instead of SBR?
minor ore
Day two of saying fuck Tooru with yoshi cage and Diavolo's lice
@proper hinge my point is that there's bound to be a far off world that D4C can reach that would be pretty much identical to that of the original universe, in a sea of endless alternate worlds
I wouldn't be "the same one" per se, but it would be identical
near cedar
That's impossible
This universe doesn't have Pillar Men
So nobody to make the stone masks
proper hinge
Sadly there’s also no Rohan.
near cedar
There is no parallel universe in these parts that can be identical to the og
Because if it's identical to the og then it stops being a parallel universe
As we saw with Valentine whenever he switched the events currently playing out were very similar on every universe
And the characters were always the same
And a parallel universe will always be almost identical to the "base world" where the Corpse is
Cuz it's parallel
If it's identical to parts 1-6 universe then it's not a parallel universe to the base world where the Corpse is
That's an alternate universe
Which D4C cannot go to
inland oyster
Didn’t Jonathan technically die of blood loss
near cedar
Didn't he die of choking on his blood cuz his windpipe was severed
I don't remember exactly what part of the neck Dio perforated
inland oyster
I don’t think he’d be speaking or acting so calmly with his blood choking him
near cedar
This is anime
inland oyster
I think he cut his arteries
near cedar
I wouldn't put it past anime to do that
He could still use Hamon if his arteries were cut
Cuz breathing
I think
inland oyster
I think he said something along the lines of using the remaining Hamon he had because he couldn’t breathe
faint gust
it's probably just in his head saying that
minor ore
to Erina
faint holly
frozen charm
Ok
mystic pier
to Erina
@minor ore there have been plenty of times when jojo characters talked to each other with thoughts
especially giorno and bruno
minor ore
If it's identical to parts 1-6 universe then it's not a parallel universe to the base world where the Corpse is
@near cedar all the alternate realities Valentine visited were very similar to his own, because that is what was the most convenient for him, but there's no established rule that any dimension he visits can't be extremely dissimilar to his own, with the most extreme example being Diego having The World, rather than Scary Monsters
kind chasm
ys
minor ore
It's alternate universe
mystic pier
tbh though the universe where diego had the world is already extremely different
because there is no way anyone could even compete with him in that world
he'd already have everything
valentine, johnny and everyone else would just be scrubs to him
kind chasm
head
mint gyro
I feel like Valentine could put up a good fight
lost slate
8 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion
minor ore
Then it's not a parallel universe
@near cedar explain how tf that works in your headcanon
Wtf
mystic pier
I feel like Valentine could put up a good fight
@mint gyro dio with the world, no problems with sunlight and no jotaro = god
hard meteor
meh Johnny still managed to destroy his leg, and valentine isnt easy to kill
mystic pier
everyone is easy to kill when you have the world
diego wasn't even that murderous though tbh
he left everyone alive
not just the alternate diego either
the alternate diego was more evil than the original though considering how he got all rapey with lucy
lost slate
alternate diego is just a horny diego
hard meteor
hes diego but without anything that made the original likeable
kind chasm
yes
minor ore
@mint gyro dio with the world, no problems with sunlight and no jotaro = god
@mystic pier But as a human, there’s no room to improve the Time Stop duration. Plus, vampirism is wayyy better with The World. It’s literally the best combo ever. The reason DIO lost in the first place is cause that fucker decided to attack with the weaker side of the body. I don’t blame him for it since he believed that his head and body now are one and finally can cooperate but we know that ain’t 100% true in the end
mystic pier
he doesn't really need to improve it in a world without jotaro though
minor ore
But who knows man. There might be super fast Stands out there in his world
Stands can be anything
mint gyro
I was thinking that Valentine seems to be able to scrape by and replace himself, even when heavily damaged.
But I do think that Diego would win that fight
minor ore
AU Diego?
mint gyro
Yeah, AU Diego
minor ore
Kill the Stand
mint gyro
D4C seems like it has a more versatile power, but it couldn’t overpower The World
minor ore
To make sure
near cedar
And as Diego said instant death is probably the solution to D4C
Kill the Stand
Yes
Chop of the stand's head to make sure
minor ore
Nothing can truly conquer The World after all
near cedar
Even better
minor ore
Unless u have another The World that is
mystic pier
or star platinum
mystic pier
made in heaven is far superior too
minor ore
Jotaro could’ve kill Pucci at that time right? But dude decided saving his daughter is better than saving the universe with billions of families and innocents
So in a way The World reign supreme
near cedar
MiH once it gains enough speed and Pucci can just hide till it does
Can beat TW
Easily
mystic pier
but pucci managed to move when jotaro stopped time
near cedar
@near cedar explain how tf that works in your headcanon
@minor ore To your original universe, a parallel universe would look the exact same most of the time, except one thing has changed, it could be anything, it could be that a someone flipped a penny in a different way, or it could be as big as having a different president
An alternate universe is a completely different universe that has no correlation to your own
minor ore
But still, if I can recall, Jotaro could’ve kill Pucci then and there
near cedar
This is a parallel universe and an alternate universe
But still, if I can recall, Jotaro could’ve kill Pucci then and there
@minor ore let me repeat myself, Pucci could have just hidden till the speed was big enough
And
mystic pier
pucci wouldn't have gone near jotaro if he could kill him though
mystic pier
so even if jolyne wasn't there pucci would still win he'd just wait
minor ore
What Anasui did again?!
near cedar
Put Diver Down in everybody
mystic pier
^
near cedar
If they took any damage
It'd all go to Anasui instead
So Pucci had to get close and kill him first
mystic pier
so basically when pucci attacked jotaro or jolyne that would be the chance to get him
but then pucci used jolynes stand to stab them
near cedar
And when he starts going so fast that you couldn't even see the water he goes trough move then you can't stop time in time to kill him cuz you won't even realize he's next to you
minor ore
minor ore
OVER HEAVENNN PEW PEW PEW
near cedar
Doesn't exist
minor ore
I bet they’ll just go with Over Heaven anyway if DIO managed to achieve it
hard meteor
its also kinda lame compared moh,dio barely uses it effectively in story mode
minor ore
@minor ore To your original universe, a parallel universe would look the exact same most of the time, except one thing has changed, it could be anything, it could be that a someone flipped a penny in a different way, or it could be as big as having a different president
An alternate universe is a completely different universe that has no correlation to your own
@near cedar that's your own made up explanation. I see no reason why D4C can't go to a universe where there's so many small changes (an insurmountable amount) to the point where he's in a world like ours, or Jonathon's or whatever
I mean if he use it effectively, everyone would be dead
Lol
near cedar
That's the definition of a parallel universe
minor ore
@near cedar that's your own made up explanation. I see no reason why D4C can't go to a universe where there's so many small changes (an insurmountable amount) to the point where he's in a world like ours, or Jonathon's or whatever
@minor ore Bruh it’s logic
...
near cedar
From somebody who is into facts about those
minor ore
@minor ore Bruh it’s logic
@minor ore what does that even mean
Pinged the wrong person
mystic pier
even if you say the parallel universes can only have 1 difference, that 1 difference could lead to a million differences which makes your argument redundant anyway
heavy ledge
For how many days have you guys been arguing over d4c
hard meteor
its not possible, d4c isnt the type of stand that can travel to part 1-6 its only parreles within its own universe
near cedar
For how many days have you guys been arguing over d4c
@heavy ledge not specifically us it's like a bunch of different people seeing KQBTD say their headcanon and then saying how D4C works and then the argument begins
minor ore
For how many days have you guys been arguing over d4c
@heavy ledge It’s ok man. It’s understandable. At least they ain’t arguing on how King Crimson works even though it’s simple as fuck
near cedar
Somebody said something like 5 days ago and KQBTD pinged them just to restart the argument
hard meteor
king crimson wouldve been way worse lmao
minor ore
How so?
near cedar
its not possible, d4c isnt the type of stand that can travel to part 1-6 its only parreles within its own universe
@hard meteor yes but what the person is trying to head canon here is that it can go to a parallel universe of it's own that's exactly how part 1-6 is
hard meteor
they arguemnts around it
heavy ledge
Just hug guys the only way is to solve this is to ask araki himself
minor ore
King Crimson works is one of those thing that is actually very fucking simple but once you think more of it, u starts getting confusing for no reason even though u know what it is already and soon it’ll make u crazy
Ok now I’m getting confuse again about KC
Fuck
astral widget
minor ore
Ok but like. U get shot, but u cut the time when the bullet goes through u so like when u see the future. U see yourself dead or what? Omg I shouldn’t think much
minor ore
Oh ok thank god
heavy ledge
Skip ads
mystic pier
Kc is weak anyway
near cedar
Strongest part 5 stand that isn't a Requiem
mystic pier
Nope
minor ore
Hmmmn
heavy ledge
Do star platinum and crazy diamond contain themselves when punching?
Its for science
near cedar
Risotto could fight it cuz Doppio was using it
Bucciarati attacked during a cooldown when he couldn't skip time yet
And that did barely anything
It can cleave a man almost in half
near cedar
He landed a hit
minor ore
Talking about the last Polnareff fight
near cedar
Cuz he didn't know Polnareff had a method of telling when time skips
Then when he did know he slaughtered him
minor ore
You gotta give Polnareff props tho. Even Diavolo was impressed. Almost killed him
near cedar
Anyway GE, Spice Girl and Sex Pistols would be screwd against KC
They could probably hurt him a bit
minor ore
What is Polnareff trying to do when he tossed himself up? He’s gonna fall down back to Diavolo and probably die anyway.
mystic pier
Purple haze would slaughter diavolo
near cedar
Haaaaaa
minor ore
Was it an action out of panic?
hard meteor
idk i thought he was panicking
minor ore
Diavolo would just cut time when he got the virus and throw something lethal at Fugo
near cedar
What's Purple Haze gonna do use it's virus and miss with it cuz of time skip
And all the light would make it fade away fast
mystic pier
Diavolo can’t do anything against purple haze
near cedar
Yes
minor ore
idk i thought he was panicking
@hard meteor yeh I think it’s an action out of panic
near cedar
He can avoid getting the virus
minor ore
He was like fuckkkkk
near cedar
By skipping time
minor ore
YEET
near cedar
And moving away
hard meteor
like you said he wouldve fell down regardless
near cedar
I think Pol wanted to get the arrow the fuck away from Diavolo
mystic pier
The moment he gets close to fugo he’d get it
minor ore
Yeh he will lol. Diavolo literally cut the time when Polnareff is falling @hard meteor
And spray them blood
near cedar
Throw something at him at the end of time skip after moving to a hiding place behind him
Or throwing blood on Fugo's eyes during TS
mystic pier
If you want to go with that then fugo doesn’t have to get close to him either
If you want to go with that then fugo doesn’t have to get close to him either
If you want to go with that then fugo doesn’t have to get close to him either
near cedar
Since the virus can't touch him during Time skip since he can't be touched by anything
He'll skip out of any virus before it reaches him
He can see the future
He can see it coming skip time blind fugo go behind him thorw a fucking street sign at his back and kill him
Throw the sign after time skip ofc
minor ore
Diavolo’s Stand is literally the word Redemption lmao
He can literally change future
OP
near cedar
Epitaph sees him dying to the Haze virus? Skip
Getting shot? skip
Etc
Fugo wouldn't be of help
Especially since Giorno Mista and Trish were all close by
kind owlBOT
@near cedar, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 49 !
near cedar
And you know Fugo won't sacrifice his allies or put em in danger if they are that close
mystic pier
You’re overestimating diavolo
near cedar
How
mystic pier
Even Bruno managed to cut him
mystic pier
You think fugo would fight him stupidly?
near cedar
Cuz if he sees something bad in Epitaph while KC is on cooldown then he's fucked
mystic pier
Fugo was supposed to be the smartest
minor ore
Star Platinum would make Part 5 wayyy easier. Golden Experience Requiem would make Part 6 wayyy easier. Lol
near cedar
Yes i think the part 5 cast would let Fugo fight him alone
Cuz they can't help
And then Diavolo would just gank him
Cuz he only needs 1 time skip to murder you
GER couldn't do shit to MIH
Pucci doesn't need to attack
And GER reverses hostile actions and attacks to 0
So Pucci would just need to run away
mystic pier
you can say he only needs 1 timeskip to murder you
but that didn't happen at all against bruno
near cedar
He killed him
mystic pier
not in his first timeskip
near cedar
Bruno was dead the moment he was gut punched, he was dying from it
Diavolo was monologuing
noble haven
Diavolo’s Stand is literally the word Redemption lmao
@minor ore No it's King Crimson
near cedar
But against Fugo, who he knows if Fugo was to get a hit like Bruno did he'd die instantly he wouldn't fight him stupidly
minor ore
Killer Queen > King Crimson
minor ore
No
near cedar
Killer Queen would probably also lose to KC
Ah you blow me up? Let me just skip over that and surprise you
winter ridge
i still feel like BTD is absolutely a requiem, just the concept before it was fully fleshed out
like it follows bascially everything a "real" rquiem would do
inland oyster
That’s a fair assessment but in canon it’s not the same
quartz loom
Okay, so, help me understand soft and wet.
Could it in concept heal someone?
Because when the bubbles pop,
They take something
So could it take away the aspect of someone being injured?
mystic pier
wait for soft and wet requiem
inland oyster
It has to be physical I suppose
It could heal someone if say. The bubbles are used to stop the bleeding, or take the away the flow of gravity to stop the bleeding.
slow grail
Ok i think I caught up with the story
kind owlBOT
@slow grail, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
slow grail
This shit wildin
minor ore
what if daiya is the descendant of Sugar mountain
mystic pier
the girl or the stand?
minor ore
the girl
winter ridge
daiya is a tree
near cedar
Sugar Mountain girl was a ghost kind of wasn't she?
serene pasture
No, she was an actual girl
near cedar
Anyway the in canon things Bites The Dust needs to be a Requiem, the stand being pierced not the user, the stand needs to look completely different, it must have a whole new ability that is overpowered af, and the stand needs to keep the arrow that makes it a Requiem on it or inside it
It is missing all of those
deep jasper
BTD is canon is probably more similar to achieving Heaven than Requiem stands
since as far as we know
Requiem stands aren't permanent and are entirely based on the strongest desire that the person using that specific arrow has
near cedar
Heaven requires a whole slue of different things
near cedar
Maybe
deep jasper
since BTD is permanently an ability that never goes away
near cedar
Well somebody will one day hear about this text and misunderstand what you meant
deep jasper
oh thats true
near cedar
And we gonna get ppl calling Btd a heaven stamd
deep jasper
lol
near cedar
That's a joke that will hopefully never become true xD
deep jasper
hopefully
low walrus
btd is actually pretty similar to a requiem
chariot requiem was the way it was because polnareff's soul wasn't strong enough to fully manifest it and GER still keeps a similar design to GE
near cedar
Not similar
low walrus
they all have the power to fuck with souls
near cedar
It's pretty different
minor ore
Chariot Requiem did fully manifest
near cedar
It just went batshit cuz Polnareff wasn't alive to control it
That's not souls that's time
The other two specifically do souls
low walrus
you could stretch it
deep jasper
not really
low walrus
i still dont think btd is a requiem tho
deep jasper
the only thing similar between BTD and requiem is the initial set up
near cedar
But even that is still different
deep jasper
Kira and Pol and Giorno had strong desires to be carried out
near cedar
Polnareff got the same ability twice
deep jasper
but they get two different things
serene pasture
Why does the jojo fandom feel the collective need to argue about requiem
low walrus
its just a gimmick
near cedar
Even tho he wanted the hell out of Italy the first time he got Requiem
low walrus
i doubt itll come up again
deep jasper
because requiem is intresting
near cedar
Why does the jojo fandom feel the collective need to argue about requiem
Some people can't understand Requiem so others explain it
deep jasper
I still look for ways for GER to be beaten since I absolutely hate it
deep jasper
having just 1 way to beat GER would make it a way better stand storywise
near cedar
Firstly well never see GER again
deep jasper
good
deep jasper
It Does????
serene pasture
Requiem can't be interesting if it doesn't exist as a concept
near cedar
It was just the most
low walrus
ger would be beaten by love train
near cedar
Specific ass
deep jasper
I don't think so
low walrus
and tusk act 4 if caught off guard
serene pasture
"oh god i wonder if Gappy will achieve Love Train"
deep jasper
GER doesn't have anything that'd stop it since "revert to zero"
near cedar
Requiem can't be interesting if it doesn't exist as a concept
What.... it exists
No no hear me out here
near cedar
Nobody could attack Chariot Requiem
deep jasper
GER activates without Giorno knowing
near cedar
They beat it by not attacking it
minor ore
He would just nullify the action of shooting the nail bullet, thus its effects wouldn't occur.
low walrus
yeah but
deep jasper
it would literally stop the spin before it starts
low walrus
ok fair
near cedar
They beat it by attacking a sun behind your head
deep jasper
same
serene pasture
Imagine thinking Requiem is a type of stand and not the name of one stand passed down onto another
low walrus
what
deep jasper
what
low walrus
Imagine thinking Requiem is a type of stand and not the name of one stand passed down onto another
@serene pasture what
near cedar
So GER might have some ultra specific weakness that you'll never think of in a million years
deep jasper
lol that is fair Eriksonn
minor ore
A Requiem is a type of Stand transformation though
tired narwhal
I will die in the hill of Infinite Spin>GER
deep jasper
but so far it feels like no matter what GER couldn't be beat
serene pasture
You heard me. Chariot Requiem is just THE Requiem and GE inherited its name
near cedar
That's
low walrus
ger cant be beat BUT
deep jasper
huh?
near cedar
Stupid
low walrus
if you convince giorno to kill himself
then you win
so thats ur strategy
if u really wanna beat ger
deep jasper
GER reverts your convincing to zero
serene pasture
It's better than arguing day and night over if BtD is a requiem because of a meti video
deep jasper
low walrus
meh
tired narwhal
GER is cringe, Tusk act 4 is based
low walrus
if you convinced him slowly over months
the fuck is ger gonna do make those months not happen?
inland oyster
Tusk act 4 can’t beat GER even if it can’t stop infinity
serene pasture
half of the stuff that's said about requiem comes from an outdated meti video
deep jasper
wdym?
inland oyster
- The nails are still as fast as they normally are. Which have been shown to be dodge-able.
- Johnny can still be reverted.
serene pasture
like, i dunno, that it's actually a type of stand?
low walrus
tbh tusk act 4 is requiem tier, if araki wanted it to be a requiem he couldve
-manifested from an intense desire to defeat valentine
-looks different from act 3
-could say it "spins souls into alternate dimensions" if you wanted
requiem is a type of stand
serene pasture
when is the concept of a 'requiem stand' ever adressed in universe? It's always THE Requiem, not A Requiem
inland oyster
Your requiem theories suck
serene pasture
stands evolve in similar ways to how GER did all the time, but there's not such thing as just a requiem
minor ore
What else do you want to call the transformation? This just seems like semantics.
low walrus
[citation needed]
deep jasper
bro
serene pasture
I mean, so do the ones about the rest of the fandom
low walrus
yeah the name "requiem" was just a thing polnareff made up
deep jasper
Stands do not just get so godly powerful that theres literally no weakness
low walrus
but the evolution is real
deep jasper
Tusk act 4 requires specific techniques and is still beatable without any ground breaking power
deep jasper
Timestop is beaten by thinking ahead of the guy time stopping
Bites the Dust was beaten by a kid and plant
low walrus
almost beaten
tired narwhal
If anything, if Araki wanted to GER to lose to a paralitic penguin he can
deep jasper
lol still
you know thinking about the name stands
howd it get adopted in SBR-verse?
inland oyster
Why not
low walrus
why not
deep jasper
in part 3 they're called stands cause they stand next to you
low walrus
fate i guess
serene pasture
Mountain Tim mentioned the name for the first time
deep jasper
even if all stands aren't humanoid
deep jasper
I guess Mountain Tim came to the same conclusion as Avdol
tired narwhal
Stand concept: A stand that dont stand but sit
deep jasper
This must be the work of an enemy Sit user
low walrus
how many stands are there
need a number
166
ok
stand idea
a stand that has every stand power but only 1/167th of their strength
itd still be busted because it has wonder of u
someone even tripping over every time they try to pursue you would be god tier
deep jasper
how would 1/167th CheapTrick work?
low walrus
your back kinda hurts for a sec
deep jasper
then you lose your stand?
minor ore
1/167th of Tusk 4's power would be infinity, busted.
deep jasper
1/167th of GER
low walrus
give it tusk act 3 and gold experience normal
and silver chariot normal
it only gets 1 harvest
or does it get a swarm of harvest at 1/167th the size?
🤔
near cedar
stands evolve in similar ways to how GER did all the time, but there's not such thing as just a requiem
Yes there is such a thing as just a Requiem
a stand stabbed by an arrow and then the arrow crawls into the stand and the stand becomes God/demi-God levels of op
heavy ledge
Mood
zenith tangle
Hoping for something big in this months chapter
proper hinge
How many days ‘til next chapter?
mystic pier
8?
minor ore
i still feel like BTD is absolutely a requiem, just the concept before it was fully fleshed out
@winter ridge finally, someone with some credibility
I mean
the stand wasn't exactly pierced
because it was kira who got stabbed
but this also means that Kira could intentionally stab himself with the arrow and become stronger than Gold Experience Requiem, probably
mystic pier
kira's already stronger than any human
kind owlBOT
@mystic pier, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
frozen charm
Kira isn't stronger than me
Bro if I was in part 4 Kira would be dead even before he could kill Remi
I'd use my stand star platinum: the world act 4 bites the dust over heaven requiem love train
forest dune
Well no
low walrus
sorry i think you mean
forest dune
Lemme do it for u
low walrus
STAR PLATINUM: THE WORLD: ULTIMATE: ACT 4: FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE: SHEER HEART ATTACK: OVER HEAVEN: REQUIEM: BITES THE DUST: LOVE TRAIN: GENTLY WEEPS: HEAVY WEATHER: OVERDRIVE
proper hinge
Made in over heaven.
forest dune
Star platinum : requiem act 4 overheaven bites the dust alternative universe vampiric harmonic ultimate life form
low walrus
you said what i did but worse
forest dune
No xd
low walrus
yes
forest dune
Urs doesn't make sense
low walrus
and yours does?
forest dune
Yep
low walrus
here lemme break it down for you
low walrus
so are mine
frozen charm
Heavy weather is the stand
forest dune
Ik
low walrus
STAR PLATINUM (stand name)
THE WORLD (upgrade to star platinum)
ULTIMATE (denotes stands used by kars in jorge joestar)
ACT 4
FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE (denotes diego's THE WORLD)
SHEER HEART ATTACK
OVER HEAVEN (denotes a stand achieved by DIO OVER HEAVEN)
REQUIEM (denotes stands evolved via the arrow)
BITES THE DUST
LOVE TRAIN (d4c's upgrade from the holy corpse)
GENTLY WEEPS
HEAVY WEATHER
OVERDRIVE (as in, (x) overdrive like hamon)
it's stand suffixes
WHITE ALBUM: GENTLY WEEPS
forest dune
Sheet heart attack
low walrus
WEATHER REPORT: HEAVY WEATHER
forest dune
Love train
low walrus
KILLER QUEEN: SHEER HEART ATTACK/BITES THE DUST
forest dune
Gently weeps
low walrus
wow
forest dune
White album
forest dune
Nice
frozen charm
No I can't type
frozen charm
forest dune
Smh
low walrus
so LOVE TRAIN is a suffix
frozen charm
Love train is the power of the corpse
low walrus
ticket to ride is the corpse's stand
forest dune
On d4c
low walrus
LOVE TRAIN is an upgrade bestowed by the corpse
forest dune
Not on star platinum the world
frozen charm
So basically they have the corpse
forest dune
Maybe u are
low walrus
DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD "SUFFIX"
forest dune
Idk
frozen charm
Star platinum the wart
low walrus
IM NOT SAYING STAR PLATINUM ACTUALLY HAS LOVE TRAIN
forest dune
Im sorry :-; I'm brain dead for not knowing the exact definition of suffix
frozen charm
The hand
forest dune
Every transformation
forest dune
Bruh
low walrus
so im listing the suffixes
low walrus
?????
low walrus
ok youre trolling
forest dune
Mine is viable in jojo universe
low walrus
what?
forest dune
Urs is literally just not
proper hinge
No u.
low walrus
you're saying vampiric harmonic over heaven bites the dust star platinum the world is viable
forest dune
Valentine is already a midget
low walrus
you're telling me
forest dune
Well yeah mine actually makes sense
alpine gyro
The corpse gets you a Ticket to Ride the Love Train
low walrus
i never claimed mine could make sense in the jojo universe
frozen charm
No
forest dune
Shhhhh
low walrus
i just said all the stand suffixes
frozen charm
Part 9
forest dune
I do not care.
frozen charm
Based
alpine gyro
how the fuck could star platinum get bites the dust?
frozen charm
Stand fusion new rokakaka
frozen charm
That's how
alpine gyro
Rokakaka more like Rocaca get it like poop haha
low walrus
:babyrage:
low walrus
buddy no offense but please learn english before getting in debates
frozen charm
Bro this argument is getting really dumb
alpine gyro
the fuck are they even arguing about
forest dune
Well it's not even an argument anymore
low walrus
despite the fact i never claimed it was viable in the jojo universe
forest dune
Shut the fuck up
low walrus
@alpine gyro i said all the stand suffixes
frozen charm
Post joshu
low walrus
and hes mad its not "canon compatible"
low walrus
like no shit STAR PLATINUM: THE WORLD: ULTIMATE: ACT 4: FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE: SHEER HEART ATTACK: OVER HEAVEN: REQUIEM: BITES THE DUST: LOVE TRAIN: GENTLY WEEPS: HEAVY WEATHER: OVERDRIVE isnt actually canon
forest dune
I just do not fucking care
alpine gyro
stand suffixes? What like the abilities or extra titles they get?
forest dune
Now be fucking quiet
low walrus
the extra titles
low walrus
forest dune
Nice haircut
frozen charm
Joshu is hot and sexy
low walrus
he says KILLER QUEEN: SHEER HEART ATTACK
alpine gyro
oh
low walrus
so i'd say it is
alpine gyro
okay well I've been proven wrong
frozen charm
Doppio sucks
alpine gyro
HOW DARE YOU
forest dune
😔
low walrus
wait fuck i forgot epitath
forest dune
I see how it be
alpine gyro
He's better than Diavolo
low walrus
STAR PLATINUM: THE WORLD: ULTIMATE: ACT 4: FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE: SHEER HEART ATTACK: OVER HEAVEN: REQUIEM: BITES THE DUST: LOVE TRAIN: GENTLY WEEPS: HEAVY WEATHER: OVERDRIVE: EPITATH
alpine gyro
and that's not just because I wanna fuck Doppio shut up
forest dune
Wait no
alpine gyro
hold up
low walrus
hes pretty
low walrus
but also bastard man
frozen charm
No
low walrus
ill wait
frozen charm
Fuck doppio
frozen charm
All my homies hate doppio
low walrus
he is a drug lord that kills kids
alpine gyro
FUCK DOPPIO
low walrus
its a low bar
alpine gyro
IN THE BUSSY
frozen charm
He killed abbachio
low walrus
when do we start
frozen charm
No
alpine gyro
Abbachio was gonna off himself soon anyways
frozen charm
🔏
low walrus
sorry bro id have cakey blues as my first choice but hes not available
frozen charm
🔏
forest dune
Star platinum :the world : bites the dust : Epitaph : bad company shit idk : requiem : over heaven :
All I know
Xd
low walrus
yeah
forest dune
I forgot name
low walrus
its called bad company
forest dune
Smh
low walrus
thats the stand
alpine gyro
Aerosmith is the plane, Mr. Smith is the pilot
low walrus
YEAH ITS CALLED BAD COMPANY
forest dune
The tank and plane and stuff
alpine gyro
isn;t that weird?
low walrus
THE ARMY IS THE STAND
forest dune
Smhhhhhh
frozen charm
Good company
low walrus
worse company
forest dune
Yes
alpine gyro
the army is the stand
low walrus
ive got something important to say
frozen charm
No
forest dune
low walrus
in jorge joestar funny valentine has a son called "funnier valentine" and a grandson called "the funniest valentine"
this is real
forest dune
Where do I read it
low walrus
bdog your profile pic looks like pucci facing down and to the left
alpine gyro
I don't see it
frozen charm
forest dune
How
low walrus
hes facing away from us and down and to the left
alpine gyro
It's a crocodile with sunglasses
forest dune
Bruh
low walrus
and the white bit is part of his eye
forest dune
Pucci do be looking like a crocodile