Doctor woo to jobins’ second child
#jojolion
minor ore
real geyser
I used my bubbles to steal your baby and your virginity
minor ore
Y’all know I’m right though
real geyser
Oh God now I imagine a fetus sized soft and wet Buble
winter ridge
thats why he doesnt ask out attractive women like a boss
real geyser
I'm gonna talk abt part 3 rn but is the audio cd drama ver better ova version or anime version of the road roller sound desgin (games too)
minor ore
Good luck finding someone who’s heard it. Try the SC channel
real geyser
Where Is it
urban kelp
When is the next chapter?
minor ore
new chapters usually come out around the 18th or 19th of each month
in japan
Part 6 reference
this it is written ''Stone Ocean''
I don't think a lot of people have noticed
white beacon
Trust me, a lot of regular jojolion readers have noticed it
winter ridge
@minor ore maybe u arent there yet but there is another p6 reference when holly is writing down stuff on her arms because she keeps forgetting
minor ore
interesting, also had another reference ''SBR '' earlier
hallow sigil
The SBR canonically happened in the same universe though.
hallow sigil
I missed that
lost slate
It's during Born This Way iirc
minor ore
P3 is also referenced
analog skiff
JoJolion writes "evil for the sake of evil" characters really well
Damo Tamaki is awesome
Urban Guerilla is funny af
Doctor Wu is also great and menacing
Poor Tom is kinda eh tho
winter ridge
i love poor tom just being a straight up bastard
analog skiff
And he is one of the smarter villains
winter ridge
dr wu fits with the song pretty well too "are you crazy? are you high? or are you just an ordinary guy?" :p
analog skiff
Tbh Doctor Wu makes me think of Rykiel's body at the end of sky high when jolyne was unable to tell his location
analog skiff
Not his death
Near the end of the fight he fucks up her optics
So his body looks like Dr. Wu's stand
As she only sees parts of his location
winter ridge
oooh i kinda remember that yeah
wait he did something with heating up specific organs to cause issues right?
by having the rods fly around?
analog skiff
No no he removed body heat
winter ridge
ohhh REMOVED
analog skiff
Which is needed to maintain body parts
Basically his ability is just to disable parts of the body
winter ridge
i thought he was like proto-speed king for a sec
analog skiff
If you removed all the stuff about rods and body temperature lol
analog skiff
Same
P8 is top
Although after rewatching some part 5 stuff
While I still don't really like part 5
I kinda miss its type of stands
JJL stands are fun af but they are all pretty much basic murder machines
Even if they are used well
Also talking about part 5 after rewatching it
||Best argument for plunder not coming back is Giorno's damage reflection||
||Wasn't retconned but was never used again either even though it could have been||
simple kraken
josuke uses plunder less because he finds out more about himself
crackhead theory
I don't actually remember when he uses it
But if it works out it works out
analog skiff
Last time he uses it is born this way
simple kraken
Maybe in the recent arc too
analog skiff
Going now and eh I doubt it
hallow sigil
He just put out a bunch of bubbles
winter ridge
yeahhh
there seems to be a running thing in jojo:
stand is introduced and it can do a few things really well, but if it reappears it just does one of those things or a simplified version
examples:
Soft and wet and Gold Experiecne as you said,
Whitesnake
Silver chariot
Magicians red
the hand
where there arent really "contradictions" but just "why didnt they do that ever again"s
simple kraken
Yeah
winter ridge
oh yeah, yasuho's "make a choice" thing on her phone
simple kraken
Yep
Now that I think about it, most of wonder of you and endless calamity haven't really been fighting, have they
It's mostly been figuring out head doctor
And moving the pieces into place
I can count at least 33 chapters in which josuke hasn't fought
I might be misremembering though
minor ore
Josuke : Oi Senpai , what you talk about on my hair ?
Josuke 8 : Oi Senpai , what you talk about on my identity ?
simple kraken
I wanna see his hair so bad
simple kraken
What if Tooru was a stand being controlled by another person
And jjl went on for another 60 chapters
gilded stream
haha araki would
winter ridge
Tooru is actually Holly stand
young meteor
Then, who's the stand user?
young meteor
We've been trolled by Araki all this time.
minor ore
young meteor
Sharpy got nitro again.
minor ore
God bless Madelie
analog skiff
What even was up with Paisley Park's choice thing
gilded stream
it just works
gentle venture
glad jojos still use the secret technique
dark plank
Nigerun fuckin' Dayo
zenith tangle
@minor ore i don't know if you noticed it but Kaato has a similar hair style to Jolyne from part 6
dusty kindle
low walrus
kira 😍
low walrus
im still convinced johnny became a saint corpse
i can elaborate if u want but its pretty spoilers for a later stand
low walrus
JJL late chapters spoilers:
||the head doctor's stand attracts misfortune to an incredible degree, just like how the holy corpse repels misfortune to the same degree||
minor ore
glad jojos still use te secret technique
@gentle venture that’s beautiful. Joseph lives on even in other universes
Amen
hard meteor
joseph is eternal
white beacon
||the attracting of disasters is more closely similar to Ticket To Ride, rather than Love Train, from what I understand||
minor ore
Huh interesting
near cedar
Joseph in this universe is not Joseph from og universe
minor ore
And cheats
lost slate
6 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion
minor ore
7
winter ridge
😳
ebon rampart
vocal mason
Damn i forgit there were titties in the Fun Fun Fun fight
near cedar
Lmao
restive mortar
this sounds like stone free but with extra steps
kind owlBOT
@restive mortar, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
restive mortar
lol
near cedar
It ain't Stone Free
winter ridge
its pretty similar i think
but jolyne couldnt do the thing where she like, disconnects her upper arm from her forarm to make a slingshot, right?
she could just "send it out"
and also doggy style cant do the thing where it spins togetehr into the humanoid form
winter ridge
ahh yeah true, since like the more she does it the more vulnerable she is too
yeah id definite say DS is a 'sequel'
low walrus
stone free could do that disconnect thing i think
dawn pond
hollow hornet
restive mortar
is it a rule of stands that clothes are treated as body parts?
gilded stream
@restive mortar pretty sure it just applies to Doggystyle's peel ability
and maybe some others
restive mortar
then why are diavolo's clothes also unaffected by his ability just like him?
gilded stream
? I don't follow, could you elaborate
restive mortar
diavolo's ability makes everything follow epitath except him
but his clothes also don't follow epitath
minor ore
IQ: 400
Diavolo and his clothing probably count as a single entity in erased time. Perhaps similar to how Valentine never uses his clothing to traverse dimensions.
restive mortar
oh ye
and how valentine's clothes don't apply to the rule of 2 things from different dimensions get destroyed
so it confirms that clothes count as part of the user in term of stands
rugged frigate
Damn if they didn't imagine two naked Funny Valentines every time he meets himself from another dimension
Hmm
Imho the most badass panel from JoJolion
simple kraken
Yeah I absolutely love that panel
rugged frigate
And can anyone explain tf is that thing
He put in the ground during fight
Is that a Rock pet?
minor ore
Yea
simple kraken
de do do do de da da da
rugged frigate
Also damn genius Rokakaka - Locacaca creativity 100
simple kraken
insect made of popsicle sticks
rugged frigate
Doremifasolasi Do xd
Star Platinum: The World Epitaph & Wet Cream C-Tusk in Heaven Monsters' Door Breaker Done Crazy Diamond Cheap Bites the Dust Requiem Alternate Universe
simple kraken
that stand looks ridiculous but is one of the most powerful characters ever with all of its powers
rugged frigate
Poooofff
simple kraken
Can stop time, speed up time, rewind time, has infinite rotational power, can literally just reset to 0, can rewrite people, can turn into dino, steal things, heal things, has access to different dimensions, and if it has lovetrain it can redirect all misfortune
Also gravity
simple kraken
Ball breaker ages people right
rugged frigate
I guess
minor ore
Everyone is talking about the doctor approaching Gappy, but IMO Gappy waiting for him there is just as cool as far as panels and scenes go
simple kraken
gappy is just a badass in general
Moreso than jotaro imo, jotaro just comes off as edgy
near cedar
Nah lmao
minor ore
I’m still a little disappointed that Kira got bodied so hard during the Vitamin C arc
near cedar
I can agree to that
Agree to disagres
Kira D:
Kira bad guy: takes many many chapters to beat
Good guy Kira: dies
simple kraken
I think that the amount of time kira was there for was perfect
vocal mason
Kira is dead but he lives on in josuke
kind owlBOT
@vocal mason, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 18 !
simple kraken
supple and moist
vocal mason
Still waiting for it to be revealed rhat josefumi is Josephs son
simple kraken
It's hard to know now
vocal mason
The birthmark might honestly be a mostake though
minor ore
yeah the birthmark isn't drawn consistently
i guess we'll only find out once it all ends
simple kraken
yeah it was a mistake
vocal mason
Also araki once gave the birthmark to lisa Lisa in a recent drawing
simple kraken
Josefumi is a jojo in name and kira is a jojo in blood
That's probably what araki was going for
hard meteor
Makes sense
near cedar
I love that panel of Josuke
vocal mason
I tried explaining part 8 to my best friend who's on part 5 and when i said Holly's son was Yoshikage Kira he was incredibly confused
heavy ledge
I tried explaining part 8 to my best friend who's on part 5 and when i said Holly's son was Yoshikage Kira he was incredibly confused
@vocal mason the problem is that people spread the word that the characters are actually counterparts and people believe they are the same people when i fact its just the name and some stands, they are their own characters
and they dont stop they just keep telling animeonlys that the characters are counterparts
so they are confused even more
azure canopy
they're pretty much jojo references
heavy ledge
Yeah but they still think sailor kira is a bad guy just because of the name
simple kraken
he's not a bad guy but he did drive ojiro insane
heavy ledge
Ojiro is an ass he deserved it
heavy ledge
He saw ojiro torturing a woman
winter ridge
what are you talking about kira was his best friend
heavy ledge
Who wouldnt be pissed
hard meteor
kira and ojiro are weird like he hates him enough to blow up his face on sight at a noodle shop but told him everything about the rokakka branch
winter ridge
i was kinda kidding, i think its a coping mechanism for whatever weird trauma kira caused
vocal mason
what is confusing about SBR-verse is The World and Killer Queen showing up, so its cemented in people's minds that they are the same characters, just altered names
heavy ledge
That best friend thing is confusing. If he is your best friend why would u wait 3 days to kill him w snakes and shit
winter ridge
in the margin it says something about how "he thinks kira is his friend for some reason"
or "despite this, he views kira as a good friend"
vocal mason
Kira didn't think anything of Ojiro he just liked bullying him
winter ridge
yeah ojiro is just traumatized
also wtf why bully just a random surfer dude what is wrong with kira like ????
heavy ledge
I think he thought ojiro was weak. And kira didnt like weak minded ppl. That is why he said all that monologue of the sea and the land
winter ridge
fuckin kira lmao
winter ridge
also:
morioh high school girl's who left shigechi to die have a counterpart
its the girl who let her mom die in the pool
because she was on her phone
simple kraken
jjl should have a blue sky in the anime
heavy ledge
guys do u think karera faked that pic whith kira and josefumi=
restive mortar
photoshop
kind owlBOT
@restive mortar, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
winter ridge
they talk about her like she is somewhat acquainted but not like great friends iirc
hard meteor
it doesnt help the fact that shes super sketchy and somehow knew about the plant
heavy ledge
Kira says he investigated her
Well when she met josuke she told him they might have kissed, josuke turns her down and she looks disappointed too
Karera main villain confirmed
burnt quiver
honestly i think araki just didnt know how he wanted sbr!kira to act
thats why he came off as a psychopath in the first few arcs lol
like i genuinely think he just threw away that characterization
dawn pond
frozen charm
Head docktor
frozen charm
Yo what if josuke has a piece of the corpse
Like a small piece was left behind in Japan
Like the piece of the spine
Idk
Wacky theory time
It was where the fusion happened and why the wall eyes are a devil's palm
Hmmmm
minor ore
Since when are the wall eyes a devil’s palm? That would explain the Higashikata family having stands, but I’d assume that’d be genetic like with the Joestars
frozen charm
Idk
The wall eyes being a devil's palm is just a theory
But it makes since for stand users like oriojo or kakeria
I cannot spell their names
minor ore
But they had stands before getting involved with the higashikata’s or Gappy/Josefumi/Kira
minor ore
The house Ojiro lived in as a kid had Wall Eyes formed there, and Ojiro had his ability as a child.
Daiya also fell into an area that later formed Wall Eyes, she got her Stand after falling into there.
The places that have Wall Eyes seems to have special properties to begin with, even before the actual walls sprung up before the earthquake.
minor ore
It's Gappy/Josefumi
Kira is dead
Also am I the only one who doesn't believe that Kira is
AU Jotaro?
Josefumi has just as strong a case as the Jotaro-reference-itis
white beacon
That's probably because of the Corpse's influence with the land when Johnny brought it to Japan
Like it blessed the land or something
minor ore
Yeah
white beacon
Or (and I dislike this theory) it's where Johnny was buried and he became a saint
minor ore
The rock that killed Johnny became an Over Heaven stand.
Josefumi has just as strong a case as the Jotaro-reference-itis
Like I was saying, though.
Josefumi's father is Sadafumi Kujo, who can be inferred to be the SBRverse counterpart of Sadao Kujo.
And his mother has the kanji for Holy in her name.
They're pretty equal in my eyes.
Just has me wondering if an SBR Jotaro will show up eventually.
Though it probably was just supposed to be Josefumi.
Since I doubt Josuke will take back his previous identity.
willow holly
Isn't SBR Jotaro split into Kira and Kyo...?
Kira has Jotaro's "i don't give a shit" attitude, and Kyo has his fashion sense.
minor ore
Well, that's what I was saying I disagree with.
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
minor ore
Since Josefumi's father is Sadafumi.
And his mother has the kanji for Holy in her name.
hard meteor
hes like a mix between part 4 josuke and jotaro
minor ore
Josefumi got robbed though
he really deserved more development
unless we count Gappy
but one thing that confuses me about Gappy is
everyone who says that Kira is his mental inhabitant
where is that stated
hard meteor
we hardly knew him and he was already gone 😔
minor ore
what chapter
interesting
then it would mean Josefumi didn't fail
and Kira isn't just a balless corpse
hard meteor
chapter 17 and 18
minor ore
Oh she says Josefumi and Kira's minds are fused
Then whoever said Kira was the mental inhabitant was wrong
just the standard fusion like everything else
tuff
They really ran an opp on Kira
rip bozo
heavy ledge
Also am I the only one who doesn't believe that Kira is
@minor ore we dont talk about that in this house
and it is not true that kira doesnt give a shit about everyone because he was really soft towards yasuho when he didnt even know her
he just gives a shit about his job, he cares about his mom and josefumi
i dont think kira is inside gappy's mind tho because his "brain" was already dead when he ate the rokaka, his dna is
simple kraken
There are definitely josefumi mental characteristics in gappy
winter ridge
we know there are going to be main villain stand "hard and dry" which pops bubbles and gives things to people
gilded stream
@burnt quiver Kira’s characterization was never thrown away, it was a red herring put in by Araki.
It works well because we previously associated Yoshikage Kira with the one in part 4 and that part 8 Kira shares some hobbies. Everything leading us to believe Kira was a murdering psychopath came from Ojiro (who is insane himself).
minor ore
He's still a bit of a jerk, though.
lost slate
Emporio became a fan of the Seiten Birdies, who knew
white beacon
After being taken in by Irene and Anakiss, they moved to Japan as it is Irene's Dad's home country
minor ore
After being taken in by Irene and Anakiss, they moved to Japan as it is Irene's Dad's home country
@white beacon
Yes, but you see hehe readjusts glasses the SBRverse does not take place after Part 6's ending hehe
ocean mirage
*adjust glasses, making it glare
ACKSHUALLY
minor ore
Day 54 of saying fuck tooru until jobin gets revived
simple kraken
Next chapter very soon
We will hopefully see what happened
Unless it is de do do do de da da da part 1 of 7
gentle venture
hopefully yashuo does something next chapter she's been dying longer than the rokakaka is being harvested for
simple kraken
well it's not like she can just stop dying
unless joshu puts her arm back on or something
That might help a little bit
gentle venture
she is very reliable
simple kraken
Can even joshu do that
minor ore
Or you know the fight between joshu and tooru
Or not cuz tooru is hiding
Pussy bitch
gentle venture
hopefully jobin didn't get a offscreen death
minor ore
white beacon
I doubt araki would do a Hot Pants on jobin
minor ore
Honestly yeah he's been developing this character for so long it would be a waste to throw him off like that
(and it would pain me)
quartz pawn
white beacon
On the 19th
tepid nebula
17th-19th
gentle venture
so what is josuke's group called in this universe?
bright hedge
low walrus
@wary haven can i get the new jojo's lion role
burnt quiver
god i love jojolion
lost slate
5 days till the Harvest of the New JoJolion
young meteor
There will be Joshu instead
deep jasper
Joshu real main protagonist?
minor ore
yeah
gentle venture
yes joshu would destroy everyone
burnt quiver
tooru almost has enough for a full moveset
joshu is already a playable character in JJEOH
gentle venture
wow an army of sheer heart attack
burnt quiver
if i were to choose 5 new characters to bring from jjl:
- kira yoshikage
- jobin higashikata
- tamaki damo
- yotsuyu yagiyama
- tooru / akefu
i would also love josefumi but that’s literally just josuke 8
but less powerful
hard meteor
he can be an alt with some added dialouge
hard meteor
yeah i dont want another part 3 part 4 jotaro thing where its literally the same caracter and the same moves with a slower time stop
burnt quiver
god that was silly
i’d be okay with kira tho cuz there are some minor differences in KQ8 and it’d basically be an Alt World Diego situation
maybe
hard meteor
yeah 8 kira could work
minor ore
Hmm, I don't really see the Head Doctor's Stand, as of now, really fitting into a fighting game
remote heath
I like how the differences are: Stray Cat+Killer Queen, and multiple SHAs in various sizes
near cedar
we need a new jojo game now
@burnt quiver no
Not until the part ends
And give da game to somebody who won't give it the All Star Battle treatment or the EoH treatment
JoJo deserves the HFTF treatment again but with all da parts in it
hard meteor
^ this cc2s gonna fuck it up again
chilly bobcat
What was so bad about the game itself
hard meteor
story mode sucked
chilly bobcat
Is online laggy for you guys
low walrus
just dont like fighting games
hard meteor
my main issue is the lack of combo variety and the executable attacks are super short
runic schooner
|| its just a dream|| endings are shit
hard meteor
and characters are nerfed to shit
runic schooner
yeah
in stopping time you can hit once with jotaro
||and you dont even get any new moves when you go over heaven||
hard meteor
he just goes "same type of stand" and boom dead everything back to normal
near cedar
EoH is a fighting game that doesn't let you play with 3 of your friends while sitting on a couch
That's what's wrong with it
No local multiplayer is the thing i viscerally hate about that damn game
burnt quiver
@near cedar @low walrus @chilly bobcat thats just the tip of the iceberg as far as problems w EoH
near cedar
It's enough that i never wanna buy it
burnt quiver
ive bought it and i have a platinum trophy in it
i have reasonable grounds to talk shit on it lol
the biggest thing is it lacks content beyond characters
burnt quiver
like u got a load of characters but the unique DHAs are arguably the coolest part of it and there arent a lot of great ones
well no
thats wrong
there are some fantastic ones, my favs being Johnny & Gyro, Josuke & Old Joseph, Giorno & Dio, Jolyne & Jotaro and Okuyasu & Josuke
and u get a lot of costumes
but there are hardly any stages, the battle system itself is clunky and it seemingly refuses to explain shit to you
the story mode is a travesty already but it doesnt help that it just misses every opportunity for cool interactions - jonathan and johnny and both josukes have a part in the story where they have to work together and neither of them even once mention that they have the same names
they dont do anything with the interactions outside of pre battle & post battle blurbs
burnt quiver
oh shit youre right
yeah that one was cool
Heritage for the Future is the only jojos game that i would consider competitively viable, ASB is close though
its still clunky but its much closer to a competent fighting game - EoH is just really messy albeit fun to mess with
near cedar
ASB is not very balanced
Ngl tho
Played as Kak vs Jotaro against my friend
That was fun
I ran away and splasshed him to death
heavy ledge
but less powerful
@burnt quiver he took down aphex bros injured while gappy almost didnt make it so i dont rly think he would be less powerful
(sorry for coming out of the blue)
burnt quiver
@heavy ledge youre right, less powerful isnt the right word - Josefumi's S&W has less utility than josuke's though (considering the new soft and wet can make its bubbles explode)
worthy wyvern
Are ya pursuing son?
near cedar
Yes
dawn pond
Tell us what you think about our tier list
Here’s the criteria
SS could beat ultimate kars instantly or really easily
S means it could beat ultimate kars situationally and/or it might take longer than usual
A means could match up with Star Platinum
B means it’s above average stands
C means it’s average powered stands
D means weak stands
E means the stands are just utility stands or very weak or situational stands
And F means that the stands are so bad that they harm the stand user
serene pasture
How does Schott Key Number 1 harm the user?
minor ore
I don't think GER, Green Grass of Home, and Made in Heaven could take on Ultimate Kars
serene pasture
why is Ultimate Kars the criteria for these
minor ore
GER doesn't have the physical feats, but Kars will never be able to harm Giorno. Stalemate here.
serene pasture
He's completely irrelevant
hard meteor
green grass of home is c or b tier
made in heaven could probably give kars a run for his money
minor ore
Idk, it doesn't seem to have the offense to really harm Kars.
burnt quiver
what is it with this discord and the circlejerk for kars lmfao
minor ore
^
near cedar
So MiH is useless against him
serene pasture
MIH can strike at the speed of light, and Kars' strongest weapons, both ultimate and not, are ligjt
near cedar
What's Whitesnake gonna do to Ult Kars?
hard meteor
oh whitesnake is fucked against kars
near cedar
GER can't beat Ult Kars that's a stalemate
burnt quiver
because i don’t think koichi or alessi are on the same level as stone free
let alone paisley park being at B
near cedar
Harvest is stronk
minor ore
burnt quiver
you just didn’t get to see it cuz he died so quick
near cedar
Also D4C can actually beat Ult Kars fairly easaly
Wait what would C-Moon do
Pucci would be safe
burnt quiver
MILAGRO MAN IS A 
burnt quiver
who did this list???
near cedar
Can't beat Ult KArs
burnt quiver
parts of it are hella accurate and other parts are milagro man being A
hard meteor
heavens door? i mean in theory he could get kars to not attack rohan
near cedar
That's a stalemate tho cuz it can't kill him
burnt quiver
heavens door is completely busted
near cedar
Ain't it?
hard meteor
right he wouldnt win but he wouldnt be able to loose either
burnt quiver
and then just punch him
near cedar
What's the thing on the Tier list next to Cream? to the right
hard meteor
thats made in heaevn
minor ore
Idk, maybe he could just write "I will never think again" and that's practically a dead person. (not exactly though obv)
near cedar
Lmaoooo
burnt quiver
why stop there
near cedar
Yes is correct
burnt quiver
he could literally just write “i will die when exposed to oxygen”
near cedar
LMAOOOOOO
burnt quiver
like straight up, there are several stands that could realistically just no sell a god
near cedar
Chariot Requiem cannot kill Ult Kars but it can put him in a position where he can be killed
I.e. soul swap
And then just kill the person who became Kars
minor ore
lol just swap his soul with a fly
burnt quiver
the problem with stand tier lists is they’re all useful on different scales
hard meteor
Tusk act 4 could beat him
burnt quiver
also did anyone notice how notorious BIG is placed at A but cheap trick is placed at F
that’s so funny to me
both of them kill their user
and work posthumously
minor ore
Super Fly has a better chance at "defeating" Kars than some of the A tier ones
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 16 !
hard meteor
midelrs in A tier.....
dawn pond
anymore critisism
kind owlBOT
@dawn pond, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
serene pasture
dawn pond
cheaptrick should be in actively harmful
dawn pond
I think star platinum would be in most useful in most situations
serene pasture
It’s SP without Time Stop
It can’t do much outside of combat
Like, help you jump higher? Reach further? Draw super good?
dawn pond
i mean, star platinum is pretty precise
serene pasture
So are a lot of other humanoid stands
The benefits SP provides are all pretty generic, its only outstanding feature is its combat capability
minor ore
Wait, what does "useful in most situations" imply?
winter ridge
im guessing "useful outside and inside of combat"
minor ore
Since stuff like Made in Heaven have pretty niche purposes
serene pasture
Both everyday life and in combat
I put MIH up there because it basically lets you have an extended version of epitaph, you already know everything that’s gonna happen to you. Even if the story’s themes are against that, you can’t deny it’d be super useful
dawn pond
what does useful means as opposed to very useful? How are you differentiating these?
@serene pasture
serene pasture
It’s just how i feel about them, really
minor ore
fate can't be changed though
serene pasture
I mean, yeah, but it’s still pretty handy to have
Now that i think about it i should’ve put Mandom in Very Useful in Most Situations
minor ore
I guess I can see the appeal in it, but I don't see how it would be "handy." Like, you know you're going to get into a car accident, but there's nothing you can do about it.
But I can see why some people would prefer to know.
white beacon
This is a JoJolion's
raw steppe
How's Dragon's Dream that useful? Remember it's a neutral entity
Thoth is pretty much useless, why do you need to know what's gonna happen if destiny can't be changed anyways?
serene pasture
Remember when it predicted that the bus they were in was gonna crash?
Well, that they were going to board
But they survived because of that
white beacon
Cringe, I think you might have posted your category list in the wrong channel
Cuz it woulda fit more in jojogen
serene pasture
I know, sorry for that, but so did Rafa
white beacon
Maaan....................... Fuck
minor ore
Does jobin know about the fetus-
hard meteor
nah he was more focused on the nose
minor ore
No but fr lmao
hard meteor
i dont think she actually told him about the fetus it might come into play later in the story
kind owlBOT
@hard meteor, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 15 !
minor ore
Interesting
simple kraken
Yeah
But then again, araki just fucking disposed of diego
Like it was nothing
Jobin is diego but done better
hollow hornet
🚆 
hollow hornet
jobin but with highway star
frozen charm
Slow king
faint gust
King Everything
minor ore
I've never heard anyone say Jobin is better than Diego. I really like Jobin, but better than Diego?
That's saying something
faint gust
well depends on what you mean by better
a better person? a better character? and if so is it visually? in personality? ability? goals?
simple kraken
I think jobin is somewhat of the equivalent of diego
In storytelling
That's what it feels like to me, at least
And I just like jobin better
Gappy and Jobin are both after the same thing, like Diego and Johnny but I think jobin has been far more involved in the story in general
And I like jobin's character better. Ability wise, Diego is better, design wise I prefer jobin, personality I like jobin, and goals wise jobin is better to me, his goals are far more relatable
odd needle
How tf does soft and wet work?
simple kraken
The biggest issue with jojolion: soft and wet
It "steals thing"
s
But
No definitive parameters have been set as to what it can and can't steal
supple totem
It can steal physical properties
And mayby thoughts too???
Wich isn't physical
But mayby is?
It can steal
sharp cipher
5 days until Joshu beats Tooru to death
young meteor
Not yet
winter ridge
holy shit wait
i just realized that yasuho is definitely also a counterpart to kakyoin specifically
kakyoin was depressed and really lonely, and he helped jotaro to save his mom
because he felt comradery and something to live for and aspire to
thats exactly what yasuho has done
im having a harded time comparing her to koichi actually, other than that she didnt start out with a stand
simple kraken
True, but I think araki's definitely done stuff like this on purpose
7 and 8 are basically araki looking back on jojo and then doing what he wants in a different and better way
Part 8 has taken the small town mystery elements of part 4 and elevated them to a whole other level
winter ridge
yeah
i think the fact that a lot of characters share the same name lends some evidence to him referencing older parts in structure as well as just their individual points
like josuke being motivated to save his mother from a disease is nearly identical to part 3 and yasuho's relation to that is also very similar
like you said though its definitely not 1:1, but she has a LOT in common with kakyoin
simple kraken
Except done better imo, Holly has much more plot relevance and actively helps the protagonist in whatever way she can
heavy ledge
josefumi is just like yasuho, bad parenting, abandonment. they wanna help the main jojo
that is why gappy and yasuho get on well too
minor ore
Day 55 of saying fuck tooru until jobin gets revived
burnt quiver
jobin is either dead or dying and he deserves worse than what he got
him dying is mercy
fuck jobin
loud lintel
Nah Norisuke isn't dead
low walrus
norisuke is dead
young meteor
He hurt the best dad.
low walrus
u dont just have ur arm cut off untreated for a week and live
even with jojo blood
thats too much goin out
near cedar
His arm ain't cut off tho
remote heath
“We won’t let dad die”
low walrus
maybe he did this hidden technique known as "lying"
remote heath
Idk how people think he’s dead when Jobin literally said that
low walrus
like how funny valentine's actions were not "those of "justice""
remote heath
Did you know that Jobin actually cares about his family?
near cedar
I mean you aren't [wrong] cuz we saw that flash forward of Norisuke with a severed arm but we don't know is what we saw the [truth]
Yes i did just mark those words
Like the manga does
low walrus
jobin cares about his family but he would kill a fucker
remote heath
Not his dad though
Unless it was absolutely necessary
He just had to knock him out there
He hasn’t killed anyone who haven’t deserved it
near cedar
Ojiro deserved it
remote heath
Yee
low walrus
didnt he try to kill yasuho
remote heath
We don’t talk about that
gilded stream
what? Jobin severed Norisuke’s arm when he did the finger boom thing
near cedar
We never said Jobin wasn't an ass
remote heath
Plus that’s him devolving more into insanity
gilded stream
not that
low walrus
if it wouldnt draw suspicion to him he wouldve fucking killed yasuho
remote heath
As things are getting closer he’s getting more desperate, Yasuho wasn’t close to him nor was she family so he felt it didn’t matter if she dies
He’s getting desperate
low walrus
you said he's only killed people who deserve it
low walrus
he literally says
remote heath
Yes this is the first time he’s actually doing something terrible
remote heath
Which is good character development
low walrus
no
minor ore
Yeah???
low walrus
he doesnt because he doesnt want his dad to get suspicious
minor ore
Y'all reaching so hard lmao
minor ore
WHERE HE JUST NEEDS THE TOOTH LMAO
low walrus
if norisuke wouldnt get suspicious he would kill yasuho
low walrus
youre the one trying to deny the words that were written in the manga
and you say i'm reaching?
gilded stream
to the person who said Norisuke didn’t have his hand severed
remote heath
Ouch
minor ore
Lmao rip
remote heath
Blood means nothing in the JoJo universe
low walrus
jobin stans really grasping at straws to say that actually murdering people is good and justified
gilded stream
@remote heath yeah not wrong
low walrus
how dense are you
gilded stream
this is why Part 8 Kira is the biggest bitch in the jojo universe
low walrus
he says he wants to kill yasuho but it would make norisuke suspicious
gilded stream
has a measly liver cut out, dies
low walrus
source:
remote heath
this is why Part 8 Kira is the biggest bitch in the jojo universe
@gilded stream Take that back you heretic
gilded stream
yet people over here spewing blood fountains and stay winning
minor ore
And he also says that his that as long as he recovers the tooth the job is done
minor ore
Fuck sake
gilded stream
it’s cool
low walrus
ah well we'll find out if hes a good one or a bad one in like 2 months
loud lintel
Still, norisuke can't die or at least not yet
low walrus
yeah
gilded stream
norisuke is probably dead
low walrus
i agree
remote heath
Nein
minor ore
And the fact that he knows he's doing evil shit still contradicts wtf he's doing
gilded stream
i think it’s way too late for fake out deaths now
remote heath
Contradclicts
minor ore
Lmaoo
low walrus
me and the boys when we turn on creative mode in minecraft
minor ore
Didn't jobin say we cant let dad die?
low walrus
jobin could have lied
burnt quiver
yes
gilded stream
I think he’s lying
loud lintel
Yeah
remote heath
I think Jobin was just making an excuse for himself as to why he wouldn’t kill Yasuho
minor ore
We can only hope he ain't lying
burnt quiver
i don’t think he was lying, i think he was gonna give his dad the fruit too
as well as his son
low walrus
until we see proof of norisuke being alive inside the bodybag we gotta assume hes dead
gilded stream
hours later in the flash forward norisuke is still lying in the body bag
remote heath
me and the boys when we turn on creative mode in minecraft
@low walrus I was just about to say that before I saw the actual text lmao
Also Happy Birthday
low walrus
ty
burnt quiver
but he’s still a prick for attacking his dad in the first place
minor ore
@low walrus HAPPY BIRTHDAY
loud lintel
Ain't you saying he isn't dead?
low walrus
i think itd be better if jobin just.... dies
minor ore
I'm coping
low walrus
he goes through all this effort just to get fucked over
remote heath
Honestly Jobin being the main villain would fit so fucking well
minor ore
Man he's really a great character he can't just die
low walrus
not by any of his enemies
gilded stream
happy birthday
burnt quiver
i will piss on jobins grave
low walrus
but by fate
minor ore
wojack sad face meme
loud lintel
Happy birthday
remote heath
He’s just trying to save his son, but doing terrible stuff in the progress which he knows is terrible
remote heath
Better than Kars and Dio
gilded stream
If Jobin dies now it’d be pretty fitting
low walrus
but you cant deny jobin doing all this awful stuff just so he can watch his son grow up then fucking dying anyway would be poetic as fuck
remote heath
Mans just trying to save his son
loud lintel
Ikr, a villain with good intentions is always the best
minor ore
Better than many villains honestly
gilded stream
right after his speech about how he doesn’t believe in luck
he gets killed by dumb luck
minor ore
He got killed by dumb luck??
remote heath
but you cant deny jobin doing all this awful stuff just so he can watch his son grow up then fucking dying anyway would be poetic as fuck
@low walrus Why does this remind me of “He later died of a cold”
minor ore
LMAO
loud lintel
It's not luck it's a stand attack
burnt quiver
yeah he was pursuing
low walrus
kill your dad so you can see your son grow up without having to die
die anyway
burnt quiver
not luck at all
gilded stream
it appears to be dumb luck to him at least
burnt quiver
jobin isn’t a bad character but he’s a massive hypocrite
gilded stream
not that HD functions on luck
loud lintel
Lmao
low walrus
head doctor functions like love train i think
gilded stream
but it plays a factor in the misfortune
remote heath
Fuck Tooru
remote heath
His stand seems cool as fuck though
loud lintel
Yes fuck im
gilded stream
to be honest I liked Jobin more when he wasn’t a primary antagonist
mostly because I felt the story didn’t necessarily need one
minor ore
I hated how his whole funny happy go lucky boy vibe went away
That's kinda why I like em
low walrus
thats his arc
he wants to treat life like a carefree adventure but is forced to undergo hell to try and save his kid
minor ore
He said Happy Aha to Serious cut the cameras
near cedar
Every day is summer vacation
gilded stream
funny jobin > scary jobin
loud lintel
I mean his child is dying.....
remote heath
I like how they both show the different sides of him, like the funny side seems like it’s something to fool his family and the serious side is a depressed man who’s son could die any moment
remote heath
^
minor ore
He's also hot which fits with all JoJo main villains
minor ore
😍 👏 ❤️
loud lintel
I agree, though valentine isn't hot
remote heath
Take that back
minor ore
I hate valentine alot but he is hot
Every villain is
Idk how araki does that but he does
remote heath
loud lintel
Idk that scene with Lucy was kinda..ya know
remote heath
To some he is
low walrus
4!kira is not
remote heath
Some people are very attracted to Kira
loud lintel
Kira is the hottest
remote heath
Some people are attracted to David Bowie
minor ore
Who isnt
near cedar
Kira is literally David Bowie
remote heath
Kira Part 4 isn’t my type but he’s still hot
low walrus
remote heath
Kira Part 8 though
near cedar
You know who else is hot
minor ore
Lemme say it again every main villain is hot
remote heath
Poggers fish
near cedar
@minor ore @remote heath these two people < 
loud lintel
Especially kira
low walrus
pogger fish
he is pogging
remote heath
remote heath
Erik I’m underage
near cedar
The funniest shit
loud lintel
It was epic
near cedar
Not the shaved eyebrow itself
minor ore
HE LOOKED SO WEIRD WITH NO EYEBROW
near cedar
His reaction to it
gilded stream
pretty big plothole that it regrew quickly after
near cedar
Is what gets me
minor ore
JEFFERY STAR LOOKING ASS
gilded stream
think I might drop jojolion because of it
remote heath
pretty big plothole that it regrew quickly after
@gilded stream I mean, JoJolion takes place for two years
Tsurugi was 9 when it started
Now he’s 11
gilded stream
we need to gauge the time between Jobin shaving his eyebrow and his reappearance then
gilded stream
otherwise I can’t sleep soundly thinking about his fast growing brows
minor ore
Do they even change their outfit
remote heath
Nope
loud lintel
Only mitsuba did
remote heath
Literally they wear the same thing for 2 years
minor ore
He was 32
near cedar
I forgot that too xD
loud lintel
Norisuke is 61....
remote heath
Wtf
near cedar
Nobody in JoJo looks their age xD
minor ore
They work the same way araki's growing up process works
minor ore
Kaato better show up soon
near cedar
For some reason I thought you meant Mitsuba
@remote heath so did i xD
minor ore
Mitsuba is 33 now I think
near cedar
For like half a second
languid hatch
i mix up kaato and mitsuba a lot
remote heath
I like how we got a glimpse of her stand and that’s literally it
Storing things in cards
near cedar
Needs saving
minor ore
KAATO YOUR SON BRO
near cedar
Kyo had a nice stando