jojolion

[tepid nebula]

I’ve read some people say Tooru will get killed before the final fight

[supple plaza]

Also we gotta remember that Tsurugi is still glitching the fuck out

[tepid nebula]

I doubt it fr

The way he’s being built up he’s def main villain tier

[toxic narwhal]

Apparently tsurugi will be fine

[supple plaza]

I think everyone here keeps forgetting the flash forward

[tepid nebula]

^still wonder how it’s gonna go fr

[supple plaza]

Tooru will likely not die

[toxic narwhal]

I will never forget that sneak peek at the future

[gilded stream]

The Wonder Of You stuff has gone on way too long for it to be a minor villain

[tepid nebula]

Exactly

[supple plaza]

But he will likely be pushed away from the Higashikata household

[tepid nebula]

It’s going to be D4C length at this rate

[gilded stream]

this is the annual long main villain stand arc

[tepid nebula]

past it even

[supple plaza]

Maybe he will steal the fruit and <PURSUE> Josuke himself

[toxic narwhal]

Why would he pursue josuke?

He just wants the rokakaka

[supple plaza]

Fair point

[toxic narwhal]

He gets that, he wins

[supple plaza]

He/HD don't really want to KILL HIM specifically

Remember the whole speech he made about accidents and returning home

[toxic narwhal]

Wait wait wait

[gilded stream]

I just want to see what new ability Tooru’s stand can pull out

[supple plaza]

He's likely also referring to himself

[toxic narwhal]

Does HD cause calamities to those who pursue tooru as well?

[gilded stream]

because it has no current offensive capabilities

[toxic narwhal]

Considering hd is tooru stand

[supple plaza]

@toxic narwhal Yes

We already saw that

[toxic narwhal]

We saw

?

[tepid nebula]

If we go off previous accounts

[supple plaza]

With Jobin

[tepid nebula]

He highly likely will

[supple plaza]

Bursting into fucking flames the moment he sees Tooru last xhapter

[toxic narwhal]

I mean jobin

JOBIN

[tepid nebula]

But then again as parts went on stands got less physical

[toxic narwhal]

Was chasinf the hd

[supple plaza]

But it was adter seeing Tooru

[toxic narwhal]

Idk

[supple plaza]

I just fucking realized

[toxic narwhal]

This theorizing stuff is hard

[supple plaza]

The Josuke vs Akefu fight

Is a fucking yugioh battle

[toxic narwhal]

Explain

[supple plaza]

"I summon Soap Bubbles in defence position!"

[toxic narwhal]

I summon rock insect in attack position?

[supple plaza]

"I summon De Do De Da in attack position, negating your soap bubbles!"

[toxic narwhal]

Isnt it de do do do de da da da?

[tepid nebula]

Mamezuku pulls out a glock 9

[supple plaza]

As they both literally sit across eachother

[craggy plume]

scatman confirmed

[supple plaza]

One noclipping through the fucking wall

[toxic narwhal]

By the way

De do do do
De da da da

Really

That name is something else

[gilded stream]

D8

[toxic narwhal]

Like, this is next level stuff

[supple plaza]

Anyway I insist

This fight is a yu-gi-oh fight with no cards

[toxic narwhal]

Meh

Jojo battles are weird enough

Them turning into yugioh isnt very impressive at this point

[supple plaza]

Araki still got it

Hundreds of chapters later and his inane bullshit is still fresh

[toxic narwhal]

His bullshit is still bullshit

Hope he never changes

Speaking of which

What will be the traditional final asspull of jojo this time?

[tepid nebula]

I wouldn’t call them asspulls cuz they’re usually foreshadowed before

But probably something with the new tokamaks

Tokamaks

Rokakaka

[toxic narwhal]

They still kinda asspulls

[tepid nebula]

Most aren’t

[toxic narwhal]

Like, you just CANT beat the villains without them

[tepid nebula]

That wouldn’t necessarily make it an asspull tho

[gilded stream]

it's not an asspull if you expect an asspull

[toxic narwhal]

You ruining my fun here friend

Let me call them asspulls

Cmon

[tepid nebula]

Lol my bad then

[gilded stream]

they are asspulls though

[kind owl]

@gilded stream, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

[toxic narwhal]

You know you want to call them that too

[gilded stream]

araki said himself in an interview

"yeah i asspull"

[tepid nebula]

Lol

[toxic narwhal]

Seems legit

Well then

I feel it will have something to do with joshu

Because, as we all know, joshu is the true protagonist

Part 8 is just his origin story

[tepid nebula]

He puts a screw in Josukes brain unlocking all his memories and KQ fusing both SW and KQ into something new

[toxic narwhal]

Isnt that what SW is already though?

[tepid nebula]

That can rewrite existence with bubble bombs

[toxic narwhal]

Perfect

Im kinda happy we dont have final villains with time powers now

[tepid nebula]

True but it’s more so Josefumis stand

Yeah I like these new ideas

If that is the main villain stand which seems highly likely at this point

[serene pasture]

S&W evolution gotta be string theory related

that is the law

[toxic narwhal]

The law

[serene pasture]

nothing to do with KQ preferably

[supple plaza]

You know something weird i want

I want Tooru to parallel Kars

[toxic narwhal]

HUH

[serene pasture]

Valentine kinda almost did that tho

[gilded stream]

Valentine already did that

[supple plaza]

And evolve/power up his own body rather than the Stand

[gilded stream]

oh

[supple plaza]

Not that part

[serene pasture]

kars kinda sucked tho

[tepid nebula]

I want it to be it’s own thing too tbh

[serene pasture]

i doubt anyone wants him back

[toxic narwhal]

Kars is cool

But let him stay frozen

[gilded stream]

kars is slept on tbh

[serene pasture]

in comparison to everything else he suck

[tepid nebula]

He ain’t coming back at this point

[toxic narwhal]

Who knows

[supple plaza]

Like maybe the New Rokakaka will evolve Tooru to a new lifeform

[toxic narwhal]

Maybe jorge joestars turns cannon

[supple plaza]

Capable of....i have no fucking clue

[serene pasture]

Tooru doesn't want the new rokakaka for himself though

[toxic narwhal]

And suddently lots of kars come from mars

[supple plaza]

But i guess something that surpasses even the HD

[serene pasture]

he wants it to turn it into a medicine

[tepid nebula]

Who knows the

[supple plaza]

@serene pasture he might use it if he's desperate

[tepid nebula]

Tbh*

[serene pasture]

at least that's what we know

[toxic narwhal]

All we know is that shits weird

[serene pasture]

Nobody knows what the new rokakaka can do yet though

[gilded stream]

im calling it, once Tooru powers up he gets a flat-top

[supple plaza]

We know it can fuse humans together

[serene pasture]

the josuke fusion was because of the wall-eyes, not the fruit

also it removes your memories

[supple plaza]

We don't know what it can do to Rock Humans

[serene pasture]

not exactly desirable

[toxic narwhal]

Ah, the wall eyes

[serene pasture]

haha the wall eyes were forgotten

[toxic narwhal]

What caused them again?

[serene pasture]

johnny's ass probably

[gilded stream]

@serene pasture it was because of the fruit and wall eyes

[supple plaza]

Is Tooru the weird baby that washed on the shore?

[serene pasture]

probably

[kind owl]

@supple plaza, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[toxic narwhal]

Who knows

[serene pasture]

i'm betting he was a rock human holy child or something similar

[supple plaza]

Rock Humans can live a long ass time

So it wouldn't be unthinkable

[gilded stream]

what color lipstick will he get when he powers up though

[serene pasture]

that'd explain the jewelry

[tepid nebula]

If wonder if they’ll bring that back up

[supple plaza]

....i just realized

[tepid nebula]

How would it explain it?

[supple plaza]

Is Tooru

The Rock Human Jesus

[toxic narwhal]

They aint bringing bite marks back, thats for sure

Rock human jesus...

[supple plaza]

👀

[toxic narwhal]

The hell is that

[supple plaza]

I have 0 proof

[toxic narwhal]

Does he give stand powers or something

[gilded stream]

araki will reveal the bitemarks were from tooru chomping on them

[supple plaza]

Other than luck / karma manipulation

[toxic narwhal]

The karma stuff is a lie

[supple plaza]

But fuck it

Tooru is Rock Jesus now

[toxic narwhal]

This is straight up reality manipulation

Karma got nothing to do with it

[gilded stream]

no karma definitely plays a factor

[supple plaza]

I mean Love Train also manupulated reality

[gilded stream]

Josuke and Mamezuku get off relatively fine when the calamity strikes

but Jobin got true combo'd

[toxic narwhal]

Do elaborate

[civic flame]

jobin gets vibe checked

[supple plaza]

More bad karma = worse shit happens

[tepid nebula]

They work a lot similar

[gilded stream]

Josuke's and Mamezuku's stuff was just minor inconveniences

[tepid nebula]

Remember when Gyro got a small cut on him

[civic flame]

do you guys believe jobin is dead?

[gilded stream]

of course it kinda gets progressively worse

[tepid nebula]

That changed into a giant gash across his chest?

[supple plaza]

@gilded stream i mean Josuke literally almost died

[toxic narwhal]

This karma stuff seems like the fate stuff from the og universe

[tepid nebula]

This stand works the same way

[civic flame]

since his wiki hasnt changed yet + norisuke iv wiki got changed to unknown

[toxic narwhal]

Hope it gets forgotten

[gilded stream]

then Jobin having murdered 2 people gets fucked up by hairspray

[supple plaza]

And was only save by Lokakaka

[tepid nebula]

Fate and Karma are very much different lol

[gilded stream]

of course Josuke kills people

but he's the jojo so he can't die until the end

[toxic narwhal]

Theyre both philosophical stuff shoved in for reasons

[supple plaza]

Why would it get forgotten

[gilded stream]

fate and karma are not philosophical at all

[supple plaza]

Karma and luck has been a theme since Part 7

[toxic narwhal]

And they lead to unnecessary studies of events in jojo, and that gets me weirdly pissed

[supple plaza]

And fate since like

Parr 1

[tepid nebula]

Shoved in?

[supple plaza]

Fate literally is enforced in all of JoJo

[gilded stream]

my favorite instance of luck was Jolyne beating Rikiel

[toxic narwhal]

Lets please not do this

[simple kraken]

It's definitely karma

[tepid nebula]

Since at least part 4 Araki has been making commentary on fate

[supple plaza]

@tepid nebula more like Part 3 AT LEAST

[tepid nebula]

I mean nobody’s starting anything it’s just not shoved in like u say lol

[supple plaza]

With Dio being the fated enemy of the Joestar linesge

[simple kraken]

The head doctor was talking about how "even if someone leads a perfect life there will still be missteps" or something

[toxic narwhal]

I think its shoved in

[kind owl]

@toxic narwhal, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 10 !

[supple plaza]

@simple kraken that was Tooru

Head Doctor's speech was about something else

[simple kraken]

same thing >:)

[tepid nebula]

As each part went on Araki got more and more philosophical/deeper about subjects such as those

But he didn’t just stuff it in just because

[supple plaza]

About how people on long travels are most prone to accidents on the return uome

*home

Which still makes me wonder

Is Tooru also on a long journey?

[toxic narwhal]

Unknown, unclear, maybe

[supple plaza]

Was he talking about himself too?

[toxic narwhal]

Probably

Most likely

One word response

[supple plaza]

Plot twist

[gilded stream]

i just want to see more of the Popsicle Tower

[supple plaza]

Rock Humans come from the underwater city of Atlantis

[simple kraken]

de do do do de da da da

[supple plaza]

Tooru is trying to save his specied by getting the New Rokakaka fruit

[gilded stream]

araki has no limit to what rock animals and rock insects can be

[toxic narwhal]

Are rock humans even in danger?

[gilded stream]

you have the dog, the tank, the hairpin, and the popsicle building

[toxic narwhal]

Like, we havent seem any who werent involved in the rokakaka stuff

[supple plaza]

It's stated they can't comprehend or integrate in human society

@toxic narwhal yes we have

[toxic narwhal]

We have?

[supple plaza]

Blue Hawaii

[toxic narwhal]

That guy was helping the guys

[supple plaza]

No

[toxic narwhal]

Also, he was a rock human?

[simple kraken]

Nah jobin got his help

[supple plaza]

He was completely unrelated

[toxic narwhal]

Well...he still was involved, just on the other side

Again, he was a rock human? Didnt he suffer an accident or something?

[supple plaza]

He was a random rock human that tried to integrate in society, but calamity brought his own Stand to kill his girlfriend and disfigure him

@toxic narwhal both

He was 100% a rock human

[gilded stream]

he was a rock human yeah

i just love everything about the blue hawaii arc

[toxic narwhal]

Must have missed a page then

[supple plaza]

It was stated before in the part how Rock Humans x Human relationships almost always turn to shit

[tepid nebula]

She didn’t die

[supple plaza]

His backstory solidified the lore

[toxic narwhal]

Man, rock humans are weird

[tepid nebula]

He tried to save his girlfriend cuz she was running near an electrical fence i believe

She was blonde

[supple plaza]

His own Stand did that

[tepid nebula]

But she ran off and he got electrocuted and got all his body parts blown off

[supple plaza]

He said they should "go to heaven"

[tepid nebula]

Did it?

[supple plaza]

Yep

Unwillingly

But it happened

[tepid nebula]

Oh

[kind owl]

@tepid nebula, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[gilded stream]

my favorite thing about part 8 is how stupid the stands are and how cool the fights are

[supple plaza]

I mean jokes aside

Jojolion is fucking dark

[gilded stream]

yeah

[toxic narwhal]

For jojo standards, it is

[supple plaza]

Yasuho almost gets kidnapped and raped in the same arc

[gilded stream]

that was paper moon king

[tepid nebula]

We’ll tell by the ending

[supple plaza]

almost, thanks to Paisley Park

@gilded stream the car dudes

[toxic narwhal]

Paisley park, the ultimate gps

[gilded stream]

oh mb

misread

[supple plaza]

It was a while ago

[toxic narwhal]

Also, does pasley park still have those choices?

[supple plaza]

Maybe?

Never really had a chance for them to ve relevant

[gilded stream]

paisley park is the most confusing stand

it can do anything but not really unless it feels like it

[supple plaza]

Paisley Park has more been used for espionage than anythinf

[toxic narwhal]

It can kinda influence the universe, apparently

With those "choices"

Sadly, that shit doesnt happen anymore

[supple plaza]

By the way

[gilded stream]

favorite stands in the part gotta be Nut King Call and Soft and Wet though

[supple plaza]

All main villains vs Head Doctor

Who wins?

[toxic narwhal]

Kars
Funny with love train

Dio

[gilded stream]

Head Doctor vs Funny would be an infinite loop no?

[supple plaza]

Nah, Dio's bad karma would cause him to like

Implode without reason

[tepid nebula]

depends if calamities can hit DIO in time stop

[toxic narwhal]

lets leave karma and other bullshit out, please

[supple plaza]

It's lirerally how it works

[tepid nebula]

Part of how^

[toxic narwhal]

Karma is weird and non scientific

[supple plaza]

You can not lije it

...

so are stands

[tepid nebula]

Exactly lmfao

[toxic narwhal]

STANDS ARE SCIENTIFIC DAMMIT

[tepid nebula]

Dragons Dream?

[toxic narwhal]

Respect the feng shui logic

[supple plaza]

Love Train is literally powered by Jesus

[toxic narwhal]

Its all science

[tepid nebula]

Bohemian Rhapsody?

[toxic narwhal]

Material jesus

Not spiritual religious jesus

Its different

[supple plaza]

How

[gilded stream]

it is spiritual religious jesus

[supple plaza]

It's literallt jesus

Miracles and all

[gilded stream]

the whole premise is that the corpse parts are holy

[toxic narwhal]

But its in AMERICA

[supple plaza]

Yeah

[tepid nebula]

Explain the science

[supple plaza]

Cause it's based on

Mormon belief

[tepid nebula]

Behind making hitting an umbrella stand

Blow ur legs apart

[toxic narwhal]

Its science, i dont have to explain crap

[tepid nebula]

Exactly

[supple plaza]

No that's kind of the point of science

[tepid nebula]

cuz it’s not scientific lol

[toxic narwhal]

I decide the science dammit

[supple plaza]

Anyway

[tepid nebula]

But yeah

[gilded stream]

what about Thoth and King Crimson?

[tepid nebula]

Love Train could come close

Love Train seems to be the hard counter

[toxic narwhal]

Dio can stop time, i dont think the calamities go through time

But hey, who knows

[supple plaza]

I geniuenly don't think any main gillain can beat Head Doctor head on

[tepid nebula]

All of them would get close

But a calamity would hit them right before

[gilded stream]

Love Train and Head Doctor cant really do anything to each other though

[toxic narwhal]

Only if they pursue the doctor though

[gilded stream]

Head Doctor directs misfortune while Love Train redirects misfortune

[tepid nebula]

Well we don’t know if he can use a calamity to stop an attack

he probably can but we don’t quite know

[toxic narwhal]

Non pursuit equals non attack

[supple plaza]

Head Doctor is basically only a slightly less powerful version of GER

[toxic narwhal]

Not really

[supple plaza]

Only instead of rewriting time to a single point

It makes it so the fucking universe is out to get you

Making it a hard counter for like

[toxic narwhal]

Thats a REAL stretch there pal

[supple plaza]

99% of Stands

@toxic narwhal HD can cause raindrops to be as strong as bullets on the target

It can rewrite past events to lead up to the target's demise

So long as they're pursuing him

He's literally unbeatable

[toxic narwhal]

HD can rewrite events?

Since when

[supple plaza]

Remember the reporter?

[sturdy falcon]

Narrator: He wasn’t

[kind owl]

@sturdy falcon, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

[supple plaza]

Akefu convinced the reporter he was 'pursuing' him

[toxic narwhal]

Yes?

[hallow sigil]

I think it's more that the stand only works when the person knows or acknowledges they're in pursuit

[tepid nebula]

He can’t

[hallow sigil]

The reporter was pursuing a story.

[tepid nebula]

He just 400 IQ assumed

[supple plaza]

The ability activated and rewrote the past to make it so the reporter touched the Rokakaka fruit

And touched his face

[toxic narwhal]

HUH

[hallow sigil]

I don't think he rewrote the past

[tepid nebula]

And amplified when he got the confirmation he’s being pursued

[hallow sigil]

He just guessed good

[supple plaza]

Which exchanfed his pimples for his fucking brain stem iirx

[toxic narwhal]

I call bullshit

[supple plaza]

Which is not even how Rokakakas are supposed to work

[kind owl]

@supple plaza, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[toxic narwhal]

All this crazyness aside

[hallow sigil]

Yeah it was weird that the effect happened so late

But I don't think that proves he's rewriting history or something

[toxic narwhal]

HD attacks the pursuier

[supple plaza]

@hallow sigil the rewriting is not on the concept of pursuiy

But on the effect

[toxic narwhal]

But can it defend the user?

Like

[supple plaza]

HD literally has ultimate defence

[toxic narwhal]

The pursuier may be suffering a calamity

[supple plaza]

That's the point

He can't directly attack

[toxic narwhal]

But he could attack HD while that happens or something

[supple plaza]

He needs to goad people in attacking him

Which is what he does to Josuke

[toxic narwhal]

Pursuing, not attacking

[supple plaza]

In this case it's the same thing

A frontal assault is a pursuit

[toxic narwhal]

Remind me when that happened

Little confused here

[supple plaza]

Literally this chapter

[tepid nebula]

Who knows tbh

[hallow sigil]

Joshu would beat the HD any day

[tepid nebula]

We’ll never quite know unless we see someone attack Tooru

Or actually throw an attack that isn’t just a rush that already misses

[supple plaza]

This is why Josuke has been sitting on that chair for real life months

[toxic narwhal]

Like

[hallow sigil]

And with the same pose even

[supple plaza]

He realized he can't fight him directly no matter what

[toxic narwhal]

I get HD activates from an attack

[supple plaza]

He needs to goad the HD into a trap

[toxic narwhal]

But it doesnt protect the user from an attack

Just attack the pursuier

[supple plaza]

Nope

It protects tlTooru too

[hallow sigil]

So far from what we've seen, it does lethal amounts of damage.

[supple plaza]

Again, it happened to Jobin

[hallow sigil]

Even for simple pursuit.

[supple plaza]

Just by him looking at Tooru

[toxic narwhal]

We considering HD and Tooru are the same or not?

[supple plaza]

Again, HD literally makes the enviroment extremely deadly

We know that already

It amplifies damage

[toxic narwhal]

But it cant defend

[supple plaza]

That IS the defence

[toxic narwhal]

I know

[supple plaza]

He just makes the pursuers dead

[toxic narwhal]

But lets consider someone DOESNT die from calamity

And SOMEHOW attack the user

[supple plaza]

More calamities happen till they die

[toxic narwhal]

It wouldnt be protected

But that attack would land

I get its unlikely

[supple plaza]

Kind of hard yo do that if you're mangled and on the ground

[toxic narwhal]

I know

[supple plaza]

Again, only way to beat it is through trapping it

No other way

[toxic narwhal]

Im imagining a scenario where that is possible

[supple plaza]

At least as far as we know

Again if HD comes to YOU

[toxic narwhal]

Shit, HD is weird

[supple plaza]

Nothing happens

Which is why he has to rely on tricking people into 'pursuing' him

And using rock animals as weapons

[toxic narwhal]

I know that

[tepid nebula]

He could be able to use calamities to defend him tho

[toxic narwhal]

@tepid nebula we didnt see that yet

[supple plaza]

Think if it this way

[toxic narwhal]

So im considering it cant

[tepid nebula]

^^ yep but it might be a possibility

[toxic narwhal]

I know

[supple plaza]

Akefu/HD has max defence but no attack

[toxic narwhal]

Just going off the chance it cant do that

[tepid nebula]

But seeing as how OP it’s ability is

U might be right that it might not have as much defensive capabilities other than that

[supple plaza]

Again, the calamities are already defending him

[gilded stream]

HD uses rock insects to attack

[tepid nebula]

Main villain stands usually have a weakness

Yeah but I mean like to stop an actual attack coming at him

[toxic narwhal]

The calamities are only attacking the pursuier

Not defending the user

[tepid nebula]

Like a bullet/projectile

Or debris or fist, etc

[supple plaza]

The gun jams

[gilded stream]

@tepid nebula the weakness ends up usually being the main protagonist power up

[supple plaza]

Or explodes in your hand

[gilded stream]

inb4 plunder is used to remove the bad luck

[tepid nebula]

I mean a more practical one before that

TW has limited range

[supple plaza]

Also HD can literally noclih through walls so uuuh

[gilded stream]

villain stands don't exactly have weaknesses

[tepid nebula]

KQ needs to touch

[hallow sigil]

Yeah how the fuck is he moving actually

[tepid nebula]

KC has limited range

[gilded stream]

only one I can think of is KQ

[tepid nebula]

WS needs to be close

[hallow sigil]

Does he just go from point A to B with the maximum trippiness?

[gilded stream]

KC and TW make up for limited range with their abilities

[tepid nebula]

D4C needs to be between 2 objects

[supple plaza]

Like his noclipping is not standard Stand noclipping

It's another ahility

[toxic narwhal]

Wouldnt all stands no clip anyway

Since theyre, well, stands

[tepid nebula]

they’re broken but they they do have shortcomings if very small

[supple plaza]

He can bring physical objects through walls

Such as his clothes

[tepid nebula]

Well it’s a strange rule

[supple plaza]

And the rock insect

[tepid nebula]

Some stands can clip some can’t

[supple plaza]

Even if his clothes counted as parts of himself

[gilded stream]

diver down's ability is he can clip

[supple plaza]

D8 absolutely does not

[tepid nebula]

^^

[supple plaza]

I swear HD gets more abilities the more chapters we get

[tepid nebula]

Maybe HDs stands weakness is that he has no physicals

[supple plaza]

That's already confirmed

[hallow sigil]

Araki spends 95% of each part trying to come up with an even more confusing main villain stand.

[kind owl]

@hallow sigil, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

[hallow sigil]

And I bet this isn't even the main villain

[tepid nebula]

It is?

How?

He’s gotta be no one else has had this much build up or length of an arc

I mean how was it confirmed*

[hallow sigil]

We still have Tooru vibing

And way too many loose ends overall

Though tbh Araki forgets sometimes lol

But I don't feel like this is really the last boss yet.

[supple plaza]

Tooru is HD

Or rather

HD is the Stand

This as far as our current info goes

[tepid nebula]

When was it confirmed he has no physicals tho

[supple plaza]

Guys read the chapter pls

[gilded stream]

Tooru is definitely final boss material

we got a copypasta and a longass stand intro arc

[tepid nebula]

Imagine if/when he’s beaten and everyone’s chilling and Jobin survives/heals up comes out and just starts fucking with everyone

[ember light]

soft and wet's things on its head got way bigger after it was shown on the first chapter cover

[serene pasture]

Soft and Wet had a number of small redesigns

The panel just before that one had like, discs on its hips

[ember light]

it seems Araki likes to change designs slightly a lot throughout parts

[serene pasture]

later on its torso becomes more heart-shaped, its shoulderpads become longer, and it gets a tiny ball on its neck

[white beacon]

StarPlat had pants

[elder matrix]

can soft and wet steal the ability to use your stand?

[gilded stream]

probably

[serene pasture]

Hell no

If it could Jojolion would be over already

It'd be like stealing your soul

[elder matrix]

its only temporary

and its not stealing the stand

its stealing your ability to use it

[white beacon]

It """""potentially could""""" but we don't know exactly how s/w will develop so it might not be able to in the course of the story

Daiya can steal the memory of your stand

[elder matrix]

im pretty sure it could

I mean your stand is there you just cant use it.

[young meteor]

Then, he could've steal HD stand ability.

[minor ore]

Stealing stand abilities is stupid

[serene pasture]

Whitesnake bad

[elder matrix]

maybe he could steal abilities

[young meteor]

AU Whitesnake

[white beacon]

Dude the fight with pucci and jolyne and he takes out her stand disc just enough so that she can't use it

That was the sickest fight

[minor ore]

Josuke has 4 testicles

Enough reason to read Jojolion

[elder matrix]

can soft and wet use the stuff hes stole?

or no?

[white beacon]

He can

[minor ore]

Oi i dont want to see josuke steal standos

[elder matrix]

ah ok so hes not just worse heavens doaaaaaaaar

[serene pasture]

At this point Soft and Wet hasn't stolen something that could be 'used' in the way i assume you're talking since the CKB arc

[white beacon]

Such as stealing the sound of a light switch clicking, and then moving to the ceiling later to simulate the sound

[serene pasture]

Now he just grabs objects and like, tosses them or moves them around

Wait no, he did it in Beetle Tendency also

[elder matrix]

stealing somones will to live omegalul

imagine

[serene pasture]

That's stupid

Soft and Wet doesn't seem to be able to affect the mind

[elder matrix]

I STOLE

[minor ore]

Survivor best Stand

[elder matrix]

YOUR HETROSEXUALITY

[minor ore]

Soft and Wet sounded so kinky

[white beacon]

Survivor would be awesome if you're someone who enjoys pure chaos

[minor ore]

Its a prince so its supposed to sound kinky

Ye who doesn’t enjoy chaos here and there

[white beacon]

Just let it out in a public space and brawls ensue

[minor ore]

Use survivor in a kindergarten

Lmao

[white beacon]

That's redundant

[elder matrix]

survivor kinda is op in its own way

[minor ore]

Ye

U can be the king of chaos

[white beacon]

Or do the kids in your guyses kindergartens not bring baseball bats..?

[bleak skiff]

Good evening fellow jojo lions

[elder matrix]

jsut bcs you cant really do anything

to stop it

like thats a reason heavens door is so overpowered, even if it diddent have the writing ability

or hell even the reading

its just

"youre instantly unconscious"

op as hell

[minor ore]

We dont play baseball here.We play cricket

[frozen charm]

I am going to pursue the head doctor

[young meteor]

You're going to be the next victim

[gilded stream]

It probably can steal stands

the reason it not being used?

same reason as not taking away eyesight from every antagonist

plot convenience

[hallow sigil]

Stand name: U Got That

Head doctor throws off the coat to reveal chiseled abs and a banana hammock

[young meteor]

Head Doctor's real name is Ricardo Milos

#manga-jojokes please

[elder matrix]

me or them >.>

[young meteor]

You

I didn't know that :/

[lost slate]

The Inchou is actually an Inchou

[young meteor]

I didn't know that either. :/

[daring bear]

._.

[hallow sigil]

I wonder how many more real life months Josuke will continue posing in that chair.

If he ever leaves he should take the chair with him, it's a good posing chair.

I looked at the HDs movement again and: what

I somehow missed the first time that he phased into the reflection on the pillar, appearing on the escalator reflected into it.

He isn't just noclipping.

[crude orchid]

WAOAOOAAAAOAOHHHH

THE DOCTOR THAT IS A STAND

[hallow sigil]

WAOAOOAAAAOAOHHHH

LIIIIVIN ON A PRAYER

[white beacon]

Josuke should put the chair in a bubble and bring it like that when they leave

For convenience

[grizzled pilot]

homestuck

[white beacon]

What

[grizzled pilot]

its a power to store a chair away and bring it out when its convenient

[white beacon]

Did you just call Kaato's stand as Homestuck?

[hallow sigil]

Speaking of which where the fuck is Kaato?

I get that Araki has completely forgotten about Kyo

But where is Kaato throughout all of this?

[tepid nebula]

We won’t know till they redebut

[hallow sigil]

I mean he remembered Ojiro

Though that entire revisiting of him felt like a big "hey listen here assholes I don't forget everything"

[tepid nebula]

Maybe they’ll come back in the arc after this one

This one seems like build up so

[hallow sigil]

Yeah I don't think the HD (at least currently) is the final boss.

I naively we get another 15-20 ish chapters to really wrap everything up but we'll see

Worst case would be if the ending was rushed or there were loose ends... then again JoJolion has been running for nearly a decade now...

[tepid nebula]

That’s possible

Lmao it’s actually possible it might be done on 20

In*

We’ll see

I see 25-30 max if it really goes on and wants to tie everything up tho worst case scenario

Araki doesn’t really rush his endings as far as I’ve seen

But again yeah we’ll see

[hallow sigil]

Araki needs to get hip with the trends for Part 9

It should be a harem isekai with a strong emphasis on wish fulfillment and where every female character is empty headed.

And get rid of stands. They're too complicated.

[tepid nebula]

God no

He gotta do a Diavolo AU before I can die in peace

[hallow sigil]

Part 9 is an Inio Asano style slice of life manga with no supernatural elements at all about various bands trying to make it big, but all of the bands and songs are named after stands

Also posing

[tepid nebula]

Booo

Need violence

Inio Asano?

[hallow sigil]

Oyasumi Punpun, Solanin, etc

Largely depressing.

But well written.

[tepid nebula]

Oh

I’ll have to check em out sometime

[hallow sigil]

Solanin is much shorter and easier

Punpun is fucking weird

And gets really weirdly dark

[tepid nebula]

What are they about?

[kind owl]

@tepid nebula, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[hallow sigil]

Solanin is about a group of friends who want to play music together, but stuff happens (no spoilers)

Punpun is about a boy named Punpun who sees himself and his family as a strange cartoon character in the real world, and is bizarre magical realism and surrealism

Punpun is pretty hard to explain.

[tepid nebula]

Interesting

[hallow sigil]

What it's advertised as:

But then it hits you with the

[tepid nebula]

I think I may have seen pictures of the bottom on twitter

Oh yeahhhhhh I have seen pics of it

LOL

Could have sworn I saw him nut in one scene

But i forgot the context

[hallow sigil]

The whole thing is a bizarre fever dream

Gets into some very heavy topics

Anyhow off topic

[tepid nebula]

I gotta check it out at some point

[hallow sigil]

Warning: it's heavy

Solanin is too, without spoiling anything

Try Solanin first, it's only one volume.

Don't read any spoilers though...

[simple kraken]

okay I'm in the mood for something depressing

[hallow sigil]

Oh good then go read Solanin lol

[simple kraken]

Starting punpun right now

[hallow sigil]

No read Solanin first it's more self contained and shorter

[simple kraken]

Ok

[hallow sigil]

And extremely depressing lol

[simple kraken]

Is it on mangadex

[hallow sigil]

Let me know when you get to that part and what you think

Yeah it is

[simple kraken]

Ok

[hallow sigil]

I actually own a print copy though

It was given to me as a gift

Only physical manga I own

The art is very nice in print.

[simple kraken]

I want to own berserk deluxe and uzumakk

uzumaki*

[hallow sigil]

1. purchase house

[minor ore]

Yay pun pun

My favorite manga

[hallow sigil]

2. remodel walls to have human shaped long holes

Pun pun is great, but definitely not for everyone.

[minor ore]

Its way too depressing

Thats why its relatable

[hallow sigil]

Pun pun is basically the feeling of smoking a cigarette while knowing it's killing you at 4AM with a horrible hangover from day drinking, in manga form.

It's not exactly fun to read.

[minor ore]

Yeah its the only manga that made me cry

[hallow sigil]

Solanin is good too, but much shorter

Also requires tissues

[minor ore]

Im gonna read that later

[simple kraken]

I'm actually gonna read these in the car tomorrow

Going on a long drive

[minor ore]

Good luck man.

[hallow sigil]

Don't be the person driving lol

You don't need that existential angst behind the wheel

Also don't read manga while driving

[minor ore]

Day 32 of saying fuck tooru until jobin gets revived

[hallow sigil]

Fuck Tooru

Why does it feel like Araki is just trolling us now btw?

First he remembers a minor villain from the beginning of the series (nearly 8-9 years ago)

Then he decides to make Joshu seem good/heroic

[inland oyster]

Araki’s tired of our shit

[hallow sigil]

The real main villain of Part 8 is

us

[inland oyster]

jobin

[hallow sigil]

He's a human hair spray can right now

Except it's blood

Can't he like, idk, cauterize his wound or something?

[inland oyster]

Probably

But he’s bleeding out

[simple kraken]

I'm not gonna be the person driving lmao

[inland oyster]

And bleeding out makes you go unconscious

[hallow sigil]

Yeah but all Jojo characters have literally 100 liters of blood

So he's got plenty of time

[tepid nebula]

Alright solanin first when I get to it

I just hope they don’t pull a hot pants with him

[minor ore]

Nah.I dont think araki will kill off joubin this way

[hallow sigil]

He still hasn't had his incest arc with Kaato

I'm calling that btw

Araki the madlad is going to do it

[minor ore]

INCEST ARC

OH MY GOD

stop it

don’t even let that continue

you mean Inscet arc

Why would you think of such thing omfgggg

[empty flame]

I LOVE THIS PANEL SO MUCH

[hallow sigil]

Which panel?

[empty flame]

the top two lol

[hallow sigil]

They'd better not kill my boy fruit dad

It had better turn out to be Jobin in that body bag

[minor ore]

Ur spoiling for them omfg

[hallow sigil]

#protectfruitdadatallcosts

[minor ore]

Protect rock pet

I don’t get it

But I like it

waits for anime

[young meteor]

Protect cringe ass nae nae baby

[inland oyster]

[young meteor]

[remote heath]

Cringe ass nae nae baby

[crude orchid]

||ngl head doctor kinda hot||

[hallow sigil]

||Big DILF energy||

[kind owl]

@hallow sigil, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

[ebon rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692314642277466146/724071296073334914/victory_against_the_haters.mp4

Victory for the Joshu fans

[simple kraken]

they repented

[lusty escarp]

Ye

[simple kraken]

Joshuphobes are no more

[crude orchid]

r/JoshuLove

[drowsy fog]

Most people were disagreeing in the thread

I will stop hating Joshu when he actually does things

[crude orchid]

I think that Joshu is that mildly annoying guy who was just thrust into a situation were he got the short end of the screw

with his crush falling in love with the guy who keeps 1-upping him

[drowsy fog]

That mildly annoying guy who will sexually harass his mom

[crude orchid]

no he was protecting his family from a threat

[lusty escarp]

He did do that

[crude orchid]

he was driving her away

[drowsy fog]

He could protect them from a threat in a way that didn't involve undressing the threat and threatening rape on the threat

[crude orchid]

there werent many other ways to do that

posted on r/JoshuHate after the revolution

viva la revolution

[ebon rampart]

Wise words

[minor ore]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jobin_daily/status/1274613022430920706

Daily Jobin 💚 (@jobin_daily)

💚 Happy Father's Day to BEST Dad 🥰

Twitter

[ebon rampart]

WHO

WHICH ONE

[minor ore]

BOTH

[daring bear]

but they aren't

[minor ore]

But they are

[crude orchid]

HERESY

jobin does all he does for tsurugi

[ebon rampart]

norisuke made his kids spoilt

[crude orchid]

and norisuke is just an amazing guy all around

[daring bear]

Norisuke is just a lad

[crude orchid]

expeccialy in the family department

yeah he just a lad

30 votes on a 4.2k sub

LMAO there is a sub called r/joshulove thats fake and actually about hating joshu

[daring bear]

[crude orchid]

god can people just realise that joshu is a good character

[ebon rampart]

yeah that sub is just r/joshuhate in disguise

[white beacon]

sounds like a subreddit joshu would make but opposite

[crude orchid]

joshu would make r/yasuholove wdym

checks if that subreddit exists

fuck

[upper knoll]

https://twitter.com/HamonBeat/status/1274597553602871297
https://twitter.com/HamonBeat/status/1274604041956233216

Hamon Beat 🐞 (@HamonBeat)

In Chapter 24 of Jojolion, Yasuho's mom was shown playing a video game. There is a game case next to the TV, which appears to be for the PS3.
From the picture, can anyone tell what game this is?
I do not think it is related to the soccer on TV since she already stopped playin...

Twitter

Hamon Beat 🐞 (@HamonBeat)

The game which Yasuho's mom was playing was found. It seems to be Resistance: Fall of Man, and it is much easier to see with the B&W scans.
You can see the helmet and objects sticking out of the ground, and the same logo and triangle on the Japanese cover.

Likes

329

Twitter

Gaming.

[daring bear]

Gamer mum

[minor ore]

Hamon beat

[crude orchid]

huh

[young meteor]

I wish she was my mom.

[crude orchid]

i wouldnt do that if i were you

[young meteor]

Nah, I was joking. She's a bad mom anyway.

[minor ore]

yoo gamer mom 😱

[young meteor]

She's rare

[crude orchid]

its great when a stand ability needs three paragraphs to be explained on the wiki

[crude orchid]

jesus christ starting my reading of the no color and middle school girls are ruthless

she has to send the birthday girl midnight texts??in middle school?????

and this i what they text her as well

yasuho doesnt deserve this

[analog skiff]

So was poor Tom killed because he was technically pursuing the head doctor?

[crude orchid]

how he die again

[analog skiff]

Shot in the back of the head by... Something

Either Dr. Wu or HD stand

As those were the two people in the ambulance

[crude orchid]

was looking into name origins and found some madlads

[minor ore]

oh damn

[crude orchid]

so i was looking into all the suke's to figure out iwasuke's name meaning

its just like rock helper

Iwa-Rock

Suke- helping/er

helpful rocc

[analog skiff]

So how exactly does Doctor Wu's movement work?

It says it needs an air current

[crude orchid]

he can just move how he wants when he goes roccy

[analog skiff]

The page does state it needs an air current

[crude orchid]

WHY HAVENT WE SEEN THIS

TRUSSADI WAS BEST BOI WHYYYYYYY

[analog skiff]

Who's trussardi

Was that Tonio's last name?

[white beacon]

yes

[analog skiff]

Ah

[crude orchid]

oh nvm it is just wind

[analog skiff]

Yeah

I'm just curious

Can he steer as long as there is an air current?

Or can he only move along the current

I assume the former

[crude orchid]

its great how much TG university hospital was shown and mentioned in jojolion before it had significance

[analog skiff]

Oh yeah definitely

[crude orchid]

its the hospital everyone goes to

[analog skiff]

Really shows that Araki does plan out

Not forget

[crude orchid]

we should have guessed

it would be important beyond just being a hospital

[analog skiff]

Arm crossbow is still one of the single best JoJo moments tbh

[crude orchid]

ye

[analog skiff]

That and Rai using himself as a fuse in the same fight

I'm still kinda confused what caused the explosion in particular because lit gas shouldn't cause an explosion afaik, just fire

Did josuke use the explosive bubbles or

[crude orchid]

Soft & Wet also has Killer Queen bubbles

[analog skiff]

Yeah I guess so

Snd he does use them earlier in the fight

Against doremi

So I guess lit gas + explosive bubbles is an extra powerful combo

[crude orchid]

hehe look at my status

[analog skiff]

Ok

[crude orchid]

Satoru got DILF energy

[young meteor]

No

[crude orchid]

yes

[novel igloo]

What a sick chapter

Always thought the head doctor was the stand cool that it's confirmed now

[ashen raft]

Head doctor's ability reminds me of Ticket to Ride tbh

with how objects get drawn into someone

and merge with them

pretty sure that yotsuya dude had a similar ability as well

[white beacon]

yes!!!!

ticket to ride!!!

[ashen raft]

did i get the name right for once

was about to say love train

[white beacon]

that's what ticket to ride does, though it's mroe of the person having any misfortune come their way

and yeah it's also similar to yotsuyu's, though his is more specific as it's only with one type of object

[ashen raft]

true and lassmasses and the objects embedded into them get drawn towards the corpse and they don't stop at anything

Ye

i feel like we've been seeing this ability a bit too much

catch the rainbow was another one

although it was only the result of their abilities that were similar to each other

smh araki think of new abilities

[novel igloo]

So why does josuke have that shit on his eye

Are those bandages or?

[hard meteor]

they're rock from an equivalent exchange

[violet hemlock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/695565076656291901/724260577274232922/HD_beat.gif

[zenith tangle]

Is it or does the HD stand looks like its smiling

[supple totem]

lol

[ebon rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/134391171861446657/723957224191557682/20200619_141152.png

[minor ore]

Lo

[undone zodiac]

One Piece 983 Spoiler;
this made me instantly think of Jobin

[minor ore]

Lo

[lofty matrix]

https://youtu.be/aAAxGSJ-gNs

[gilded stream]

yeah arm crossbow is a peak

show that panel to anyone who says stone free and doggystyle are the same

[novel igloo]

Dude joshu vstooru is gonna be so fucking sick

[violet hemlock]

gappy to see you

man

[gilded stream]

even though the odds are stacked against joshu, I think he'll make some milagro man plays

[violet hemlock]

fucking d8

what a stand name

[novel igloo]

Yeah assuming toorus stand can manifest in 2 places at once the fight can have some crazy shit

[loud lintel]

2nd redemption arc for joshu incoming

[novel igloo]

Probably best chapter in a while just because it's setting up 2 exciting fights

[gilded stream]

josuke in a chair vs popsicle stick monster

[novel igloo]

Could also be remaining higashikatas vs tooru

[gilded stream]

and rai's there too ig

[novel igloo]

Rai 3rd best JoJo duo change my mind

[gilded stream]

it's my 2nd favorite only beat out by Johnny and Gyro

[novel igloo]

Okuyasu josuke 2nd imo

[young meteor]

1st is Johnny and Gyro for me

[novel igloo]

Ye Johnny gyro unmatched

[young meteor]

2nd is Josuke and Yasuho

[gilded stream]

okuyasu and josuke is good, but something about how cold yet caring josuke and rai are for each other

also they were chilling in a lambo in a tree

that's just a peak right there

[novel igloo]

yeah i just like the fact that its apparent that they both fully believe in eachother

like they both think the other is capable

[gilded stream]

they also got coolass stands

[drowsy fog]

People who call De Do Do Do De Da Da Da "D8" don't deserve jojo

Call it by it's glorious full name or don't bother

[minor ore]

That name kinda killed the vibe and at same time made it to better

[drowsy fog]

I really hope it dies halfway though next chapter or something

[minor ore]

Yeah

[sharp cipher]

Josuke vs bug

[kind owl]

@sharp cipher, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

[sharp cipher]

Truly peak Jojolion

[drowsy fog]

Imagine if the newest chapter drops and it's titled: De Do Do Do De Da Da Da Part 1

[sharp cipher]

Bro it's an insect
It's gonna last half of next chapter i bet

[minor ore]

I don’t want Josuke to fight a bug for 3 months

Hope it’s a short fight

[sharp cipher]

Can someone answer something for me?
Was the HD in the Hospital too when it was attacking Jobin?

[near cedar]

We don't know

[minor ore]

He's here he's there he's everywhere

[drowsy fog]

Who you gonna call?

Psychic friend Head Doctor

[minor ore]

AYYY U GET IT

[white beacon]

I ain't gonna call d8 dedodododedadada if I'm not gonna call d4c dirty deeds done dirt cheap

[pulsar yoke]

Oooh just read latest chapter

Very interesting and cool as well

[gilded stream]

if josuke leaves the chair at all during the fight, im dropping jojolion

[pulsar yoke]

damn

Me when the

[drowsy fog]

If Josuke leaves the chair ever I'm sending Araki a strongly worded letter

[gilded stream]

guarantee when Josuke is about to make a play, he’ll sit up in the chair

[paper quail]

Okay so

I just read 98

Song by the police, but it could also be a stand cry maybe and his real name could be Every Breath You Take which is fitting in a way

He could be The Police and it fits with the pursuing theme

[simple kraken]

de do do do de da da da main villain

[paper quail]

Kind of like how Spice Girls was the stand name but her stand cry was a song by them (Wannabe)

[near cedar]

He literally said that De do do do de da da da was a rock animal

[paper quail]

D8 is also fitting with Part 8 I guess lmao

[near cedar]

He said "this is a living thing"

That ain't no stand cry

[paper quail]

🤷‍♀️ could be

[gilded stream]

D8 is the popsicle stick tower

[paper quail]

I'll just wait for Tooru to drop the name

[gilded stream]

since the rock animals have D names the next one could be Despacito

[near cedar]

No

Pls

I hate that song

[paper quail]

Despacito is the stand name of the Part 9 Jojo

[gilded stream]

speaking of part 9 do you think there will be one?

araki is getting old

[paper quail]

Where we get our first Black/Latino Trans Jojo

[near cedar]

Why

[paper quail]

Araki is a vampire though so

[kind owl]

@paper quail, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

[near cedar]

How does a black JoJo make sense if Josuke is Asian and the Joestars of the AU are most likely white

[paper quail]

Stop being a bigot

[near cedar]

Unless they adopt him or something but there is no Joestar blood then

Wow stating that makes no sense from a narrative stand point makes me a bigot

[paper quail]

#CancelEriksonn Get him out of here get him out

[gilded stream]

a joestar can easily have a child with a black person

it’s not out of the realm of possibility

[drowsy fog]

Next chapter: De Do Do Do De Da Da Da Part 1

[near cedar]

Not completely

[paper quail]

So funny enough, I posted that as a joke and you took the bait and started dragging it so I continued the joke.

[near cedar]

Wow

I have been fucking got

XD

[gilded stream]

@drowsy fog if we have to watch Josuke fight in a chair for 3 months...

[paper quail]

You should've guessed it was a joke when I literally said black/latino trans jojo

[gilded stream]

Araki forgot how to end parts

[paper quail]

@gilded stream I kinda like Josuke in a chair

[near cedar]

Clearly you ain't seen the people I've seen in discord servers :p

Tho yea that was pretty obvious joke now I look at it

[paper quail]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH WE'RE HALF WAY THERE!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOH JOSUKE IN A CHAIR!!!

[near cedar]

Hahaha