#jojolion

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runic shoal
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Wait it is?

serene pasture
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yes

runic shoal
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Shit

night moon
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i think that when tooru ate the hamburger he mind melded w HD

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it was that good

serene pasture
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the borger was the true mastermind

kind owlBOT
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@serene pasture, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

serene pasture
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cow rock animal

night moon
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rokakaka burger and now HD can control tooru bc he ate rokakaka

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and helped yasuho pursue the doctor

serene pasture
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Right now i'm betting on the name Stupeflip because of the Ss scattered through tooru's outfit, the teddy bears, and the SF he had on his pants in his early design

runic shoal
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Hmm rokakaka burger yes

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Where can I get one

serene pasture
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too bad i can't look into the band's lyrics and apparently very deep gorillaz-style lore cause it's all in french

night moon
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french you say

serene pasture
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yes

night moon
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that sounds like a job for

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the girl who has like 20 canadian friends

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(me) (that;s me)

serene pasture
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Would you commision your 20 canadian friends to translate a band's lore and discography because some dude named Cringe told you

night moon
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if you're worried about lyrics though you're looking in the wrong place lol

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araki can only speak japanese, he's said that he enjoys the music he names stands after purely on sound and not for symbolic/thematical purposes

serene pasture
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wait, what.

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when.

night moon
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yeah lol

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it's on the interview page

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brb

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"How the riff vertically enters the song "When Doves Cry" by Prince and how the melody feels like rain sticking to the ground gives me a really nice effect of 'solid' and sexy. I think the sound effects in 'JoJo's Bizarre Adventure' came from my desire to incorporate the strange voice that comes out from this song in a manga. For David Lee Roth's "California Girls," I adored the excitement and happy feeling it gave me. If you link the music and images it reflects, ZZ TOPS' "Legs" reminded me of something like the Pinup Girl style.

I consider these songs similar to an oil painting; I especially consider the way Norman Rockwell used to draw them to be quite erotic. His art used to appear in calendars, but it's popular now too. I think it would be nice to listen to these songs while watching those calendars."

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"Well, those came from the author of the original graphic novel, Hirohiko Araki. They're all songs that he was listening to back when he was drawing the individual parts. Mr. Araki only listens to Western music because he doesn't understand English, so none of the lyrics come across to him as language, but as pure sound. So we got a list of these songs that he was listening to back when he was writing each part, and we chose songs for the closing animation based on which ones Warner was able to secure the rights for"

serene pasture
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So all the parallels i've managed to find about his references, they're all me reaching for straws

night moon
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yup

serene pasture
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damn, my life's over

night moon
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i mean it's pretty obvious if you ask me

serene pasture
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well whatever i'll continue doing it

night moon
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why is sticky fingers named sticky fingers? there's a zipper in the album cover

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why is ball breaker ball breaker? duh lol it uses balls

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why is soft and wet called soft and wet? it uses soap bubbles

serene pasture
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seriously though why do Gold's lyrics perfectly reflect giorno

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is it just coincidence

night moon
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bc prince's songs are all either about fucking bitches or being super good at shit

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it's not that complex

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lol

serene pasture
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but not Gold...

night moon
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i know the song dude

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i was raised on prince

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trust me on this

serene pasture
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how can a parallel so genius as "what's the use of being young if you ain't gonna get old" be unintentional

bright hedge
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eh

night moon
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in the song "pussy control", prince says "this is your captain speaking". narancia, who listens to "canzione preferite", the song which sampled "pussy control" in the golden wind soundtrack, flies a plane

bright hedge
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there are some songs that hes definitely based certain characters off of somewhat

night moon
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coincience? i think not

bright hedge
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and stands

serene pasture
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crazy diamond and stone free can't be unintentional

night moon
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i mean no shit he knows what the names of the songs mean

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but not the lyrics

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he could hear on the radio "this song was performed by pink floyd and is called "crazy diamond" .... ect" and be like "oh cool"

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sorry im being kinda passive agressive

mighty kestrel
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At least Stone Free has an in-universe explaination for the name

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So theres that

queen fox
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@mighty kestrel wait it does?

white beacon
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Have you not read Stone Ocean?

queen fox
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I don't remember the explaination

white beacon
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Jolyne names her stand Stone Free because it's a power that will help her be free from the Stone Ocean(prison) she is in

mighty kestrel
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Yeah that

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even though she doesnt even attempt to break free for another 100 chapters

queen fox
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Also I read Stone Ocean 4 years ago, I won't remember every line

mighty kestrel
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Been about a year since I read stone ocean

kind owlBOT
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@mighty kestrel, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

white beacon
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It's at least an important line that highlights her character and stand

queen fox
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also how are they going to do that scene in the dub?

mighty kestrel
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Poorly

queen fox
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Stone Ocean lol

mighty kestrel
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Because the dub calls the stand “Stone Ocean” because they’re lazy fucks

simple kraken
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part 6 is a copyright disaster waiting to happen

mighty kestrel
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“This Stone Ocean will help me be free of this Stone Ocean”

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Perfectly normal sentence

queen fox
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I hate how stingy they are with literal 2 words, copyright is a bitch

mighty kestrel
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Can’t wait for Flacid Pancake

queen fox
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apparently you can't use the word kiss anymore, smack...

minor ore
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gonna be hella sick

crude orchid
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my idea about the whole thing with tooru,head doctor and da big standodah:
(this is going to be a rollercoaster ride) Tooru is the big bad.his stand, The Wonder of You,which we saw in the stairway and in the car,projects a person that if people pursue it are subject to the ability.the projection is made out of calamity energy/bad karma,letting it be physical if the viewer has enough.it is also sentient and if asked what its name is as a stand,as an experienced user would be aware that stands dont have people names,would call itself crazy train.and/or that is the name for the fate manipulation part of its ability.

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the names are iffy but i do have evidence being that Wonder of You makes a lot of sense for tooru as a character and also being the final villian because then it would reference the romance theme of jojolion and soft & wer is referencing the eroticism theme of jojolion.

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crazy train makes sense not only in conjunction with love train(both are light based fate manipators) but "going off the rails in a crazy train" kind of sounds like a calamity

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i got some of this idea from meti pointing out dangerous pursuits similarties to the requiem arc.Wonder of You would be behind viewers and you can only damage it to defeat it once and for all.so you would have to hit behind yourself

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like bruno hitting the spirit light behind his head

bright hedge
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@night moon basically dios whole arc in part 3 correlates with the lyrics of holy diver

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Just read the lyrics for the elvis album king creole

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Its fairly similar to a lot of stuff in part 8

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Not saying that theory will happen

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But he definitely takes inspiration from lyrics

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Its not as if he cant just get Japanese translations

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And of course not everything is super deep

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But a lot of main character themes and arcs can be taken from songs

crude orchid
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yes

crude orchid
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im open to criticism about my theory

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heck i want criticism

simple kraken
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Well the characters sensed it when it was near them

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The stand thing

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Like when it appeared they immediately knew

crude orchid
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WOAH WOAH WOAH DANGEROUS PURSUIT HAS BEEN RENAMED TO BE A PART OF THE WONDER OF YOU ARC

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i was checking something and i just noticed

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the plot thickens

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ok so i believe in both instances they sensed the stand but once they looked back it wasnt there?

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maybe it materializes after enough time of not pursuing the doctor but still thinking about it

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its preparing for an attack to the point it can't hide itself

minor ore
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I am not sure but it seems like the stand is able to alter the past in some way

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Yasuho not recalling the stuff Tooru told her they did, the reporter not recalling touching his face with rokakaka juice and the HD having an extremely specific explanation of it and Jobin wasnt hit with the pipe up until he saw Tooru even tho it doesnt make sense? like in all of those instances i have a feeling the past was altered

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the pipe was actually on the ground

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also Tooru pulling out the picture of Akefu out of nowhere when he stated he cant find any pics like previous panel

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Also the shore baby was born on the day Johnny "became a saint" (he preformed a miracle) probably as an "antichrist" figure which i think is either Tooru or the HD

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about Wonder of you renaming i think thats the name of the stand too

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Kyo was probably also erased from her birth and she doesnt exist anymore

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She must have found out something

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no one has mentioned her, Holy doesnt have any writing about her on her body

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it altering the past or merging a universe with the best possible outcome of a situation into our current "base" universe makes the most sense to me

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also someone mentioned that the stand looks like a projector which would make sense with your theory

crude orchid
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that was an inspiration

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my theory is a large mashup of other smaller ones into one that makes a lot of sense to me

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and yours is really good too

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are you building upon mine?

minor ore
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sure i think it actually mimics the hidden sun behind them too

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kinda cause ive that concept for a while now

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i think it could be somewhere in the middle of ours

crude orchid
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no we are exactly on point

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as the ultimate stand i can retcon into oblivion

minor ore
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actually yea

crude orchid
minor ore
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i was like this might be the most powerful entity in all of jojo

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entity

crude orchid
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Wonder of You?

minor ore
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i dont think its human

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no the user

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well the stand too basically

crude orchid
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which would make sense if tooru is the babby

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i love being right

minor ore
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yea i think he really is supposed to reflect antichrist since our protagonists holly existence

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it adds a nice duality

crude orchid
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oh yeah i had a short theory that gappy is the physical/genetical rebirth of christ

minor ore
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i think Johnny is flashback man

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and he blessed Josuke

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like Jesus in SBR

crude orchid
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also Wonder of You the song is purely romantic while Soft & Wet is purely erotic

minor ore
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heres where something is off

crude orchid
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their was loads of duality with josuke and kira in part 4

minor ore
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those 2 are back to back

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and the bottom panel

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same background

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i dont know what really is happening here

crude orchid
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whos is the hand?

minor ore
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tooru in one and a student in the second

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but just look at the pages

crude orchid
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yes

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this is why i love part 8

kind owlBOT
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@crude orchid, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 13 !

crude orchid
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this is mystery!

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i fucking love it!

minor ore
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i mean....

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something is off here

crude orchid
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want to make a shared doc called the "The Jojolion Conspiracy" ?

minor ore
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we could

crude orchid
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eh actually is fine

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my real name is on my email

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so

minor ore
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i really dont wanna be that dude who says Tsurugi, Tooru and HD are all the same

crude orchid
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im not going to do that

minor ore
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its shaping up like that but im not sure

crude orchid
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tooru and HD are the same.kind of

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you read my theory

minor ore
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Tsurugi dragging yasuho in chapter 22 after yasuho read the newspaper about the baby

crude orchid
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STOP

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NO

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YOU"RE TOO DEEP

minor ore
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i know

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but its

crude orchid
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GRAB MY HAND

minor ore
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they might not be the same tbh

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but Tsurugi could be a part of this

crude orchid
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oh

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maybe like he was with yotsuyu?

minor ore
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yotsuyu said that Tsurugi has the right mindset or like he is the one thats right

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right?

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i remember yotsuyu talking about him

crude orchid
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NO NOW YOU"RE DRAGGING ME DOWN WITH YOU

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he did say that

minor ore
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an uncontrollable power

crude orchid
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your stando

minor ore
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that wont stop until it reaches its destination

crude orchid
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powah

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?

minor ore
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i mean it sounds like one mitsuba explanation of the HD stand

crude orchid
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wait what

minor ore
crude orchid
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wait whihc chapter is this from?

minor ore
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its acting on its own

near cedar
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Tsurugi kills everyone and is then killed by Joshu confirmed

minor ore
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83 the new rokakaka

crude orchid
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ah

minor ore
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where the flashback happened

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to the week before

crude orchid
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so after the calamity

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the big one that happens at the harvest

minor ore
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what if this isnt a flashback as in the story

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what if its actually happening in the jojolion time

crude orchid
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the whole thing is a flashback

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yeah we get it

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i love it

minor ore
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there could be 2+ stands here

crude orchid
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wow this is deep

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deeper than the marina trench

minor ore
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oh-

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wait daiya couldnt recall or remember norisuke was killed

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or in death state

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all of them couldnt

crude orchid
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OH

minor ore
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wait this is another piece of evidence about the past manipulation

crude orchid
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OHNO

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THE FLASHFOWARD

minor ore
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god

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what will happen in these 2 hours

crude orchid
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goddamn

minor ore
crude orchid
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i love this

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so many levels of what the crap

minor ore
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i think we are actually right

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it all links to it

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but the problem is who is doing what

crude orchid
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everyone who sees this without knowing the context please read from my theory

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a higher being?

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OH NOOOOO

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JOHNNY JOESTARS CORPSE

minor ore
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we

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are

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god

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tsurugi main villain imagine omegayare

crude orchid
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wow

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wowowoowowowowowwoowowowow

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just

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wow

minor ore
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he has the motives i mean his father is killing people left and right, he is dying and turning into paper, he was locked in a basement most of his life?

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his stand also drowned a baby by itself

crude orchid
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i have no words

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this is

minor ore
crude orchid
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you're right

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he has the motivations

minor ore
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his stand is also acting on its own

crude orchid
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true

minor ore
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linking to the dialogue

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about an uncontrollable power

crude orchid
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it could be acting out his deepest desires

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its perception based

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maybe its messing with everyones perception

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its why they have forgetten

minor ore
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a change of heart

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he snapped

crude orchid
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and a change back in some of the last three chapters

minor ore
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what if he survives the disease

crude orchid
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he should

minor ore
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without a rokakaka

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and something happens

crude orchid
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healing him represents breaking the higashikata curse

minor ore
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his stand could be the cause of all of this

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i mean anything could be an illusion

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Jobin wasnt affected by the HD and wasnt able to see him

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some people dont see it and some do

crude orchid
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you could say that about anything in life but in this instance it isnt an asspull

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and i hate that

minor ore
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he also lived under one of the twin pines

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the one the corpse was hidden in right?

crude orchid
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oh

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ah

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eeesh

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wohhof

minor ore
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yea it was that one

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theres 2

crude orchid
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you are right

minor ore
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a child murderer will be crazy

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he reminds me of Hayato a bit

crude orchid
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theres only one thing more dangerouse than a murderer

minor ore
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i dont even think he wants it to hurt his family

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he cant control it

crude orchid
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yeah

minor ore
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he probably doesnt realize

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but the HD is very real

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and Tooru too

crude orchid
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yes

minor ore
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this really doesnt make sense

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the conclusion in 83

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i dont even want to imagine what will happen

crude orchid
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maybe tsurugi awakening a stand at such a young age is because of johnnys corpse

minor ore
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daiya literally dragged norisukes corpse like what

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like what

crude orchid
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that part has to be tsurugi

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or the head doctor

minor ore
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the 83 shit could be all tsurugi

crude orchid
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but i think its tsurugi so they arent in costant distress

minor ore
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the house was in a good state? the family was happy?

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rn the house is missing walls

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theres blood everywhere

crude orchid
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we are seeing it as if we were under the effect of paper moon king

minor ore
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probably

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jobin, mitsuba, tooru, yasuho

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no where to be found

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they were in the photo tho

crude orchid
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they would be at the hospital

minor ore
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what would happen if tooru was killed and him and HD shared 1 mind

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would it flow to HD

crude orchid
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that would be interesting

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and would parrellel part 5

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more

minor ore
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this has been mainly part 5

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we even have part 6 a little

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and 4 mainly

crude orchid
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the whole shit with the head doctor

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yeah

minor ore
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Caato has to have a role

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she could have something to do with this

crude orchid
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tooru and caato are in cahoots

minor ore
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she is the main reason Tsurugi is bullied

crude orchid
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tsurugi fucking gameends caato

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oh she trys to get back in with family by "caring" about tsurugi

minor ore
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i think she will come into the estate and save Jobin like Holy saved Josuke

crude orchid
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she's like the stories from r/entitledparents

minor ore
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yea

crude orchid
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i just realised

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i've heard this before

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from r/entitledparents

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about caato

burnt quiver
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castro is my least favorite character

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i don’t like jobin or jobin wife or even tsurugi

crude orchid
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ok

minor ore
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she was framed norisuke had no sympathy, lets be honest if jobin was your kid and he had a disease that requires you (parent figure) to sacrifice yourself. One of his bullies is knocked out of self defence by jobin, his disease is reaching a peak. We would all use the bully.

burnt quiver
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but none of them compare to being as unlikable as caato

minor ore
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no one would give up their life

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when theres an option where you have a perfect thing to use

burnt quiver
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not even because she’s a bad character i just don’t like her

crude orchid
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except for a true higashikata

minor ore
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she took all the blame and norisuke lied about her being dead

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like thats shitty

burnt quiver
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she’d be better off dead

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norisuke goated

crude orchid
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she will die

minor ore
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why do you dislike her? she is the most human character because she is selfish

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she puts herself at #1

burnt quiver
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oh i think her actions aren’t even like

minor ore
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who wouldnt

burnt quiver
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that selfish

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she loves her son and wants him to be successful

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and her stand is cool

minor ore
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he is her only ally its sad

burnt quiver
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honestly like i think she’s a fine character

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i just hate her

minor ore
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i think youre meant to dislike her but its a gray area

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it isnt 100% justifiable

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but also she had a point

burnt quiver
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it’s a gay area because i’m in love with her husband

minor ore
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omg rip

crude orchid
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bruh

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dilfcon

burnt quiver
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quite possibly the lamest joke i’ve made this year

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you’re welcome

minor ore
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tooru is one of the prettiest jojo character 😳 he is my only mans

burnt quiver
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i respect that

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he is unnecessarily pretty

minor ore
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the zoom ins of his face

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so pretty

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i mean araki

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what were u doing bby

burnt quiver
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he knows exactly what he’s doing

crude orchid
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to be honest he kinda looking finearaki

young meteor
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Tooru sucks

minor ore
crude orchid
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oh yeah

burnt quiver
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he conditioned me to find men attractive from parts 1-4 and then he started drawing twinks to send me directly to straight conversion therapy

minor ore
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always shrouded in darkness

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;p;

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i wanna run my fingers thru that hair

crude orchid
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yasuho knows hime from childhood but doesnt trust him.yasuho has not known josuke for a year yet but hes the love of her life

young meteor
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How many Tooru pics do you have?

minor ore
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a lot

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a lot a lot

crude orchid
young meteor
minor ore
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why does he have a cropped jacket

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and his belly is exposed

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araki im

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also why hasnt speed king been on a volume spine

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22 and 23 are tooru and HD

white beacon
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nkc isn't there

young meteor
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So is Walking Heart

minor ore
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yea

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but jobin is a very prominent character much more than Joshu or Hato or most of the people on the spines

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him not having a volume spine makes no sense

crude orchid
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jobin is 10

white beacon
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love love deluxe is there, that having a spine makes no sense

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tooru meant speed king not having a spine

minor ore
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yea

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he might actually have a spine soon

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bcs he got a cover

young meteor
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Unless?

minor ore
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look how paisley got it much later than yasuho

white beacon
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sad doremi isn't with urban guerilla there

minor ore
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yea the intricate design

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so good

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a tree is literally on the spine

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and Speed King not

burnt quiver
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why the hell was gappy orange in asb

crude orchid
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araki is a god

burnt quiver
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what art was that referencing

crude orchid
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of writing

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and art

white beacon
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orange gappy is gappy's like, debut look

crude orchid
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oh i know which art

burnt quiver
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OH right

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the first cover of UJ

minor ore
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jojolion is the first fully monthly story and he had setup rina and norisuke one in SBR

white beacon
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it's the one with that very proto-s&w

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with the stubby ears

burnt quiver
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first jojolion cover right

minor ore
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yea

burnt quiver
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god i’m so glad that wasn’t the canon color

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so ugly

minor ore
white beacon
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that's not the one

minor ore
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the one where he looks black?

white beacon
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it's like, the first ever actual time we see gappy, the jjl announce page

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okay that's kinda racist but yeah that

minor ore
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i know its stereotyping

white beacon
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yeah that

minor ore
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that soft and wet design

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ugly

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cheese

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nasty

crude orchid
minor ore
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lol

crude orchid
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joshu and josuke being friends bahahahahahahah

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keep in mind eoh was written by araki

minor ore
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jojolion a peak in his writing and art

crude orchid
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yes

minor ore
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its gonna become the best part

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it already is tbh

crude orchid
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this conspiracy makes it clear

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almost everything we have said makes sense

minor ore
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the way he set it up midway SBR with Norisuke I

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and then at the end with Rina

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there was an explanation of how one becomes a saint

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i think its supposed to be for johnny

crude orchid
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he had the idea from the second qaurter of sbr

minor ore
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if norisuke I sinned or smth

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or had a rock wife

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they had illegal rokakaka child

crude orchid
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maybe it was a rock humans stand

minor ore
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cause yes the rokakaka can do that

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it can get women pregnant

crude orchid
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honestly i wouldnt be suprised

minor ore
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the way we will have 3 fake out deaths

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this year alone

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but its jojo people die towards the climax

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i wonder if karera will really return

crude orchid
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from what you have said you believe that a large part of SBR is setup for part 8

minor ore
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yea

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as soon as it switched to monthly format

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araki had the concept of part 8

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JJL is heavily grounded in SBR

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i mean SBR had its official ending in JJL

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he had it all planned

hybrid pawn
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Official ending

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Yeah fuck that

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Doing my boy jonny dirty

white beacon
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Someone tweeted that they liked this expression and because of that tweet I noticed something

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Ray has three nipples on one tit

minor ore
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LMAO

ashen raft
#

beanipples

crude orchid
#

we stan for rai's nipple beabs

young meteor
#

Does it mean he has 6 nipples?

gentle venture
#

well i guess this is the perfect jobro for a jojo with 4 balls

lost slate
#

the 'mame' part of mamezuku means bean

halcyon galleon
#

That's beans

minor ore
#

Day 3 of saying Fuck tooru until jobin gets revived

minor ore
#

perform an exorcism on Tooru

#

Guess which jojolion character I'm drawing the sailor moon redraw on?

upper knoll
#

Yasuho?

minor ore
#

jobin

#

as tuxedo

young meteor
#

Kira?

gentle venture
#

tsurugi?

minor ore
#

Jobin

ebon rampart
#

as predicted

minor ore
ebon rampart
#

im trying to make the joshu choking tooru meme

minor ore
#

LOL

#

good luck homie

white beacon
#

I just found out about this but the Wall Eyes might be a reference to Yes's album, Relayer, because the album cover looks a bit similar to the Wall Eyes

icy bluff
#

It’s possible

grizzled pilot
#

oh yeah i always thought it might be

white beacon
#

Might as well just make an entire part of Yes references

grizzled pilot
#

please araki

bright hedge
#

Alternatively theres the king creole theory where they are supposed to look like crawfish burrows or whatever

#

I need to reread jojolion badly

prisma lintel
#

after part 8 is finished i might read it again

upper knoll
#

Reread when colored chapters are all out

mighty kestrel
#

Yeah I’m gonna wait until jojolion is finished to read the whole thing again - see how it stands up as a completed part

#

Until then, I just can’t force myself through Blue Hawaii again

drowsy fog
#

When JJL finishes I'll probably read the entire series tbh

#

Never read manga 1-4

#

Only watched like a normie

near cedar
#

Calling people who only watch it normies

#

What are you an elitist :p

sharp mauve
#

Those are normies

#

100%

minor ore
#

Cringe king

near cedar
#

A yes cuz enjoying JoJo the way you want makes you a normie

minor ore
#

Cringe nothing

drowsy fog
#

Soft & Cringe

near cedar
#

Sure

minor ore
#

California cringe bed

drowsy fog
#

Cringe Cringe Cringe

minor ore
#

I am a cringe

drowsy fog
#

Cringy Wah!

minor ore
#

Cringe moon king

#

Walking cringe

drowsy fog
#

The Cringe of You (The Miracle of your Cringe)

mighty kestrel
#

Cringe Cringe Delux

drowsy fog
#

Cringed this Way

#

(Formerly Cringing Underground)

minor ore
#

Awakening III cringe

mighty kestrel
#

Awaking*

minor ore
#

Same thing

#

@drowsy fog good job we made all the cringy stands

#

Let's go to part 4

drowsy fog
#

We made a cringe

#

Dr. Cringe

#

Cringy Park

#

Cringe no longer looks like a word for me

minor ore
#

Same

fluid vessel
#

jojolion

mighty kestrel
#

JoshuJoshulion

ashen raft
#

Cringe King Call

gentle venture
#

Walking Cringe

minor ore
#

Controversial opinion

#

Gappy has no idea what he’s talking about fried chicken slaps

upper knoll
#

Huss why do you keep posting jojokes in the wrong channel bro this is like the third time

#

good meme tho!

noble haven
#

I am inactive anyways

#

it do not matter

#

nice MBDTF pfp btw

upper knoll
#

ty

drowsy fog
#

Fried chicken sucks

#

French fries are great

#

Gappy has good taste

white beacon
#

Wait, if tooru(burger) put jobin(chicken) to the ground, and josuke(fries) hates fried chicken this means...!!

near cedar
#

Tooru and Josuke are working togeather!

white beacon
#

I actually thought this was gonna be a RockPaperScissors moment but nah they both hate fried chicken

supple coyote
#

Pimples are totally equivalent with the atlas of your spine 👍

drowsy fog
#

Woo explained that the "equivalent" exchange of the Rokakaka is all but equivalent

mighty kestrel
#

Yeah its a magical healing fruit, it doesn’t really have to be fair

white beacon
#

It never will be fair because there's the aspect of randomness in it

drowsy fog
#

At least Locacaca won't go to the brain

mighty kestrel
#

Thats the whole point of what Wu was doing - mitigating the randomness

drowsy fog
#

Yeah but he is rock boi so he must perish

#

I swear Gappy is the good guy

mighty kestrel
#

Lmao

white beacon
#

What wu was saying was kinda good though, but only on major cases where it's pretty much untreatable where there's a goos chance what's exchanged will be lesser inconvenience

mighty kestrel
#

Wu was still kind of a dick - he saw pregnancy as a disease that exchanging out would make Mitsuba more healthy

drowsy fog
#

Wu is an antinatalist

#

Based and wokepilled

gentle venture
drowsy fog
#

Purely strategic reasons I'm sure

white beacon
#

It really is strategic, to destroy your enemies from the inside-out

drowsy fog
supple plaza
#

So what are the major theoried on JoJolion fightpw

drowsy fog
#

Wait NVM Poor Tom

minor ore
#

they do shag

gentle venture
#

lol

supple plaza
#

*right now

minor ore
#

how tf would new rock humans get made

supple plaza
#

Has anyone considered that his dick just...broke off

white beacon
#

There's like, two or three separate rock human infopages and they each say that rock humans fuck

drowsy fog
#

When they can dispense sandwich wrap with their eyes you gotta discard whatever you think you know about biology man

minor ore
simple kraken
#

why are rock humans stand users

supple plaza
#

Most Rock Humans are stand users

white beacon
#

We don't know why, they just kinda are

supple plaza
#

Oh also friendly reminder that Rock Humans, according to another of these info pages, can live up to 200 years

simple kraken
#

There must be another way to get stands then

supple plaza
#

Make of that what you will

simple kraken
#

Because there isn't a virus

mighty kestrel
#

There is - the corpse/wall eyes

supple plaza
#

No, they're natural stand users

simple kraken
#

Oh yeah

supple plaza
#

They're just born with them

minor ore
#

and the devil's palm

white beacon
#

Natural stand users exist too, like kira

minor ore
#

yeah I'd assume they can be born

mighty kestrel
#

The devil’s palm exists because of the corpse

#

So its still corpse juice

simple kraken
#

Idk why but I kinda assumed everyone got stands through the corpse

#

The walleyes are because of the corpse too

supple plaza
#

One of the info pages state that 95% of Rock Humans are natural stand users

white beacon
#

In sbr, yeah

#

But in jjl you can just be born with one

mighty kestrel
#

In part 8, most stands can be traced back to the wall eyes

supple plaza
#

Will those literally ever be explained

mighty kestrel
#

Which could possibly have something to do with Johnny/the corpse

supple plaza
#

Will the baby ever be explained

simple kraken
#

Yeah

#

Maybe, maybe not

supple plaza
#

Will Satoru's stand ever get a goddakn name

simple kraken
#

I don't think araki forgot about it

#

Yeah it will soon

mighty kestrel
#

The Wonder of You is almost definitely his stand name

white beacon
#

Well, yeah, it's a stand of a prominent character

simple kraken
#

Probably next chapter

white beacon
#

Why wouldn't it get a name??

simple kraken
#

What's Crazy Train though

minor ore
#

jojo omnitrix

drowsy fog
#

Rock humans can live up to 200 years but did you hear that the head doctor is actually 89 years old

supple plaza
#

I know this is probably old news but

simple kraken
#

I feel like that's important

drowsy fog
#

Crazy how things be

mighty kestrel
#

🤷‍♂️

supple plaza
#

Satoru is definetly inspired by René Margritte

minor ore
supple plaza
#

The surrealist painter

drowsy fog
#

ye

minor ore
#

a ha ha

white beacon
#

Yeah, check the pins

minor ore
drowsy fog
#

balls, even

supple plaza
#

I see

gentle venture
#

imagine that is joseph joestar

minor ore
#

bru

#

burh

supple plaza
#

I think at this point we can consider THAT MAN an Araki Forgot

#

It doesn't look like it will have any relevance

simple kraken
#

Yeah probably

supple plaza
#

Even if it was an early Jobin design

#

It would make no sense for Josuke to remember him

simple kraken
#

We saw the early jobin design

supple plaza
#

I don't think either Kira or Josefumi ever met Jobin

mighty kestrel
#

It wouldnt matter, thats very obviously a part of Josuke’s memory - not Josefumi’s or Kira’s

#

Josuke is in the memory image looking up at the man

drowsy fog
#

Reminder that either this is the 1st time that Araki literally forgets that a character in the part he is writing exists or Kyo is coming back with some California King Bed fuckery

simple kraken
#

Kyo was intentionally removed

white beacon
#

Josuke... Has no other memories..?

drowsy fog
#

Kyo got Stalin'd damn 😔

white beacon
#

Since he was like, just born a few days ago in that image

simple kraken
#

Mitsuba's skirt is different so araki likely even had the image next to him when drawing the second one

#

So kyo being removed was intentional

mighty kestrel
#

Its Josuke and the dude at the wall eyes

drowsy fog
#

Why would he remove maid

#

We need maid

white beacon
#

Dude like, it can't be josuke's own memories because like, he was born underground

mighty kestrel
#

I’m aware the timeline doesn’t make sense

#

I’m just saying, thats what the flashback shows

supple plaza
#

This is an Araki Forgot

white beacon
#

And he and kira are in-canon have the same face and clothes

supple plaza
#

Or Araki Changed his Mind

simple kraken
#

Kira has a different hat tho

#

And longer hair

#

Much longer hair

mighty kestrel
#

Kira and Josuke definitely don’t look the same

white beacon
#

Well that's the closest explanation ee have, that it's kira in the memory, since josuke couldn't have made new memories underground

mighty kestrel
#

Ojiro and Karera even mistake Josuke for Josefumi

supple coyote
#

This part is getting to be like 2 and a half men after Ashton Kutcher became the lead

minor ore
#

I thought Kyo was the one taking the picture

supple plaza
#

It still wouldn't make sense since Kira never met that man in the story

simple kraken
#

whAt happened to 2 and a half men after Ashton Kutcher became the lead

mighty kestrel
#

It sucked

white beacon
minor ore
#

okay

simple kraken
#

jojolion doesn't suck

minor ore
#

Jojolion swallows

odd monolith
#

I think it's super SUPER likely either Tooru or HD takes Yasuho hostage/uses her as leverage.

minor ore
#

@minor ore Unlike someone I know >:((

white beacon
#

That straw sucked jobin dry tho

minor ore
#

I-

#

BAHAHSHHA

#

😭 I wish my girl was nasty ;((

#

im kidding please

odd monolith
#

having a girl
kimochi warui

glass lily
#

This is one other araki forgot moment that I picked up on that bothered me. This picture was never shown getting taken or who took it.

minor ore
#

im singl

simple kraken
#

a stand took it

minor ore
#

Yo girl underage she can't be nasty until two years

#

shiii

#

same

#

@glass lily tfw Josefumi has the birthmark

#

@minor ore oh wait that means we're the same age

#

AYY

white beacon
#

Karera never couls have taken it, she hates kira and only stalks josephmi outside of uni

minor ore
#

let's fucking gooooo

#

josephmi

simple kraken
#

a stand took it

white beacon
#

Actually, the three of them never woulda been together at all

glass lily
#

that bothered me a lot while reading those flashback chapters

simple kraken
#

that is the headcanon

minor ore
#

is that even a picture?

#

I thought Araki just drew that as a cover for fun

white beacon
#

Yeah. It's from karera's phone, iirc

minor ore
#

ohhh

#

rioght

#

well Josefumi likes Kira so i mean

#

I'm sure you have a friends who have friends you don't like

white beacon
#

The cover you're thinking of might be the one where there's a lot of red in it, and they're in a car

odd monolith
#

what abt the family photo with kyo in it

mighty kestrel
#

Its almost funny that Josefumi has the birthmark, yet we don’t at all know his family lineage

odd monolith
#

then the one without her

mighty kestrel
#

Where as Kira we know is a Joestar decendant

odd monolith
#

well isnt jousuke technically josefumi

#

just with kira added in

mighty kestrel
#

Yes

gentle venture
minor ore
#

@mighty kestrel it could be that Josefumi is this universe's version of Josuke in that, he is the illegitimate child of this universe's Joseph

simple kraken
#

Kyo was removed intentionally and it was either california king bed or caatos stand

mighty kestrel
#

Nah this universe’s version of Josuke is likely Norisuke

minor ore
#

.

mighty kestrel
#

Norisuke was born as Josuke Higashikata, and his mother is Tomoko

minor ore
#

aight

#

so is our main character a lie then

odd monolith
#

there's no way araki ERASED kyo ACCIDENTALLY

minor ore
#

that would be crazey

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 26 !

mighty kestrel
#

Main character josuke is a character that technically shouldnt exist

glass lily
#

she had served her purpose and could be thrown away

odd monolith
#

could be just an intentional retcon I guess

#

yeah that

mighty kestrel
#

He’s the unnatural fusion of 2 seperate people

glass lily
#

kyo: walking exposition

mighty kestrel
#

Kyo is odd to just be thrown out - she’s Holy’s daughter/Kira’s sister

#

It feels like she should be important to the current plot

odd monolith
#

see I never really saw it as half josefumi half kira equals jousuke
I thought it was josefumi had some kira added INTO him, and was named jousuke after he forgot everything

mighty kestrel
#

But shes just weirdly absent

odd monolith
#

kyo finna b at the hospital

simple kraken
#

she's not retconned or anything

minor ore
#

isn't she in the flash forward

odd monolith
#

more like thrown by the wayside

#

she was removed from the photo though

glass lily
#

I'm hoping she could be brought back just when we think she has been written out of the plot, same for kaato

odd monolith
#

how is that not retcon

white beacon
#

The photo where kyo isn't in it is the flash forward

simple kraken
#

no she's removed from the photo due to something in the story

minor ore
#

I always thought that's cause she was taking the picture

simple kraken
#

Araki didn't decide to just remove her

mighty kestrel
#

I dont think Kyo being removed from the photo is a retcon, I think the point of that shot was just specifically to be focused on the Higashikata family

white beacon
#

The camera has a timer

odd monolith
#

why would it be on a tripod

minor ore
#

it wasn't

odd monolith
#

timer, then

minor ore
#

look

odd monolith
#

point is it looks EXACTLY the same

#

minus kyo

minor ore
#

on the left there's no tripod

#

not even a camera we can see

odd monolith
#

oh

#

word

#

I apologize

#

I was mistaken

white beacon
#

Becaue a tripod wouldn't be included in a photo?

minor ore
#

I thought it was cause she was taking it

#

OH YEAH LMAO

odd monolith
#

its got the ame zoom tho

minor ore
#

WHY THE FUCK WOULD WEE SEE THE CAMERA

odd monolith
#

3rd person

glass lily
#

the left picture looks weirdly empty now that she's gone since there's still a space where she would be

odd monolith
#

why would we see gappy?

#

ever

#

@glass lily yeah like a puzzle piece

minor ore
#

cause it's not told from his perspective

simple kraken
#

yeah she got removed on purpose, not a retcon, not araki forgetting

odd monolith
#

....or a chess piece...

#

but w h y

minor ore
#

wait hold on

odd monolith
#

I mean she's a whole ass person
not a fuckin background rock

minor ore
#

here it's yasuho

odd monolith
#

nah thats mitsuba

#

just lighter hair

mighty kestrel
#

Its still mistuba

minor ore
#

what about the balls?

odd monolith
#

no roses

#

no legwarmers

#

face is diff.

#

also its a family photo

white beacon
#

That's mitsuba's original design

minor ore
#

aight

mighty kestrel
#

Its just an early version of Mitsuba vs a more recent version

white beacon
#

Yatsuho wasn't even permitted to get in the estate after josuke arrived

odd monolith
#

kyo is fuckin with me fr

minor ore
#

no wait

odd monolith
#

I mean a whole character

minor ore
#

she's wearing a different shirt

#

that's the mitsuba arrow shirt

white beacon
#

Well, yeah

minor ore
#

but then this one is one solid color

white beacon
#

Because it's mitsuba after araki made a final design for her

mighty kestrel
#

Just gotta remember that Mitsuba was a non-used character for like 75 chapters

kind owlBOT
#

@mighty kestrel, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

mighty kestrel
#

Araki just updated her design

minor ore
#

look

#

it's the same shirt

#

in the current design

odd monolith
#

would u guys kaato

kind owlBOT
#

@odd monolith, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

odd monolith
#

I would

#

I would kaato so hard

pulsar yoke
#

I'm rereading this part bc I didn't understand it as much the first time and oh my god it's so much better

white beacon
#

Pisha all you're showing us is the newly designed mitsuba

minor ore
#

it's the same shirt

#

in both deisgns

#

and in the picture it's the same one

white beacon
#

It's not, there's lines runnin down on the new one

minor ore
#

there's lines on the old one

white beacon
#

That's still the new one

mighty kestrel
#

Why are we having this discussion, its just an updated Mitsuba design jolynehurt

minor ore
#

no it isn't

#

she doesn't have a rock nose

white beacon
#

Because she got the rock nose during the arc where she had a new design??

minor ore
#

aight

fluid vessel
#

ending of part 9: beginning of jojo part 1, jojo repeats forever iggy

minor ore
#

huh

fluid vessel
#

also rip to jobinsepticeye

gentle venture
#

no he's not dead yet

#

if people can survive 20 minutes with no blood he can survive losing blood

fluid vessel
#

broh momento

glass lily
#

yasuho is the only one I'm sort of worried could possibly die from this still

fluid vessel
mighty kestrel
#

Norisuke better not die

fluid vessel
#

norisuke best dad

glass lily
#

I thought norisuke was going to be a fake out as soon as it was shown to be a flash-forward

#

tricking the readers

gentle venture
#

what if tsurugi is making someone else look like norisuke in the flash forward to convince everyone he's ok

glass lily
#

that is a likely explanation

kind owlBOT
#

@glass lily, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

drowsy fog
#

Can we all agree that Blue Hawaii is the weirdest namesake

#

for a Stand

#

Ever

mighty kestrel
#

I mean

drowsy fog
#

Look at the fight and listen to the song

mighty kestrel
#

Limp Biskit

drowsy fog
#

Corpses limp around when they move

glass lily
#

that was a really fun arc

#

could have been that araki was listening to the song while working and decided to use it

drowsy fog
#

Only connection I can make is

#

Blue Hawaii= Blue ocean= Blue pond

#

Man that lives in the pond

glass lily
#

that works

ebon rampart
#

I fixed the reporter’s face

drowsy fog
#

So did the Rokakaka and it didn't go super great

gentle venture
#

too soon he will be missed

#

may his pig tails fly him to heaven

upper knoll
#

This is Steven Steel now

ebon rampart
drowsy fog
#

damn the man's bein treated

#

hold up lemme do some surgery

crude orchid
#

More on Wonder of You;Crazy Train and D4C;Love Train.comparing them is interesting as Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap and Crazy Train are the same genre while Love train and wonder of you are the same genre

drowsy fog
#

Flawless

gentle venture
#

bruh is this tooru's face

drowsy fog
#

yes

crude orchid
#

Can I just say that part 8 has completely lived up to the expectations it had as a alternate version of part 4

gentle venture
#

no rohan thorohiyo

mighty kestrel
#

Who needs Rohan when you have Joshu

gentle venture
#

hmmm equivalent exchange indeed

ebon rampart
crude orchid
#

Oh cool new meme trend

drowsy fog
#

Hello and welcome back to pictures that make you go "hmmmm"

near cedar
#

That ain't lookin like a c-cup to me

minor ore
#

@drowsy fog stand names don't always have to have anything to do with the actual ability

drowsy fog
#

@near cedar not that part

kind owlBOT
#

@drowsy fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 24 !

drowsy fog
#

@minor ore They always have SOMETHING to do with some element. Whether it is the lyrics, the title, the cover or the artist and whether it references the aesthetic, the ability, the user or whatever it always works to some degree

minor ore
#

Surface?

drowsy fog
#

It's a surface bruh

near cedar
#

I assume you meant "Paper Moon Deception" right?

drowsy fog
#

Wooden surface that turns into other stuff.

minor ore
#

Earth Wind and Fire?

drowsy fog
#

@near cedar "It's only a paper moon" talks about your eyes decieving you

minor ore
#

Red Hot Chilli Peppers?

drowsy fog
#

Earth Wind and Fire: Music video has alien theme

#

RHCP: The user references the band's guitarist

minor ore
#

when

#

i forgot

drowsy fog
#

aesthetic and instrument

near cedar
#

I think he is the reference

minor ore
#

okay

#

sure I'll give it to you

drowsy fog
#

Try to come up with more because it's fun

minor ore
#

even though he's based on Kenji Ohtsuki

#

and Jimi Hendrix

#

hm

#

Mr. President?

drowsy fog
#

Presidental suite

#

Duh

minor ore
#

ehhhhh

#

i don't think so

#

oh how about

#

Sticky Fingers

drowsy fog
#

Oh yeah also Coco Jamboo is supposed to be sung on a beach where turtles are

#

And look at literally any Sticky Fingers album cover

minor ore
#

who said coco jumbo

#

I'm talking about the stand

drowsy fog
#

Sorry uh

#

Not any cover

#

The one cover lmao

#

Brainfart

minor ore
#

Kraft Work?

drowsy fog
#

Kraft Work has a robot aesthetic like the band

#

Kraftwerk

minor ore
#

I think plenty of stands have robot aesthetics though

drowsy fog
#

BRUH

minor ore
#

okay

#

idk who kraftwerk is gotta be honest

#

hm let's see

#

Marilyn Manson?

drowsy fog
#

Not sure about that one

#

Bet if I researched I'd figure it out

minor ore
#

sure

#

Boku no Rhythm wo Kiitekure?

drowsy fog
#

Reference to the user being called Oyecomova, the japanese text translates to "oye como va mi ritmo"

#

lyrics to the song Oye como va

minor ore
#

that doesn't have anything to do with the ability but yes

#

that makes sense

drowsy fog
#

I never said the ability but yes

#

I said the ability, user, aesthetic etc

minor ore
#

aight

drowsy fog
#

Not all of them at once

minor ore
#

Oh! Lonesome Me?

drowsy fog
#

Cowbow song

#

He's cowboy

#

Easy breezy

minor ore
#

Tomb of the Boom

drowsy fog
#

hmm

#

Other than the users maybe being a group similar to speakerboxx idk

#

Similar in theme and... quantity

#

Maybe

#

Put it with Marylin Manson

minor ore
#

King Nothing?

drowsy fog
#

Reference to the lyrics, it's about building an empire that crumbles around you lol

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Also at no point does Norisuke wear a crown

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Speed King?

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Not sure about Speed King

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Doobie Wah!

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I think it's an artist reference, the artist to the user

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Part 8 ones I dont know that well

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Ok so Doobie Wah Speed King Tomb of the Boom and Marylin Manson I still have to figure out

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I DEMAND MORE

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Doggy Style

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mistacry I said I dont know the part 8 ones as well

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pussyyy

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Im rwading the lyrics and lookin at the covers

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nothin

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what about

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Pearl Jam

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Bruh moment

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Jam=food=chef

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stfu

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that's so stupid