LMAO
#jojolion
lost slate
people are complaining that jjl is boring
minor ore
wait was that guy saying that on the recent jjl reddit discusion
?
@simple kraken
I noticed how he was listening to crazy train
Wonder of You:Crazy Train
graceful sedge
tawdry pond
Tooru should do the stanky leg in front of yasuho
white beacon
tooru's gonna dab on yasuho and thank her for confirming that the fruit is in the house
then leave her to crumble away
gentle venture
mitsuba is about to push all those calamities away with 3 awakening leaves
royal gale
you cant fuckifn end a chapter like that
what
did jobin really just fucking died
and thats it
gone
minor ore
He ain't dead until they confirm it
drowsy fog
Lice is the frontline Jobin warrior of the server
When the new chapter comes out if they confirm Jobin's death I'm gonna feel so bad for you
drowsy fog
Yeah but
kind owlBOT
@drowsy fog, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 23 !
ebon rampart
Im on the line of saying that he’s fatally wounded
drowsy fog
And if Norisuke dies I'm gonna be really sad
So if it's either you me or both
I'd rather it just be you
🙂
drowsy fog
FITE ME M8
minor ore
We do be throwing hands at each other huh
Oh wait
Day 2 of saying Fuck tooru until jobin gets revived
young meteor
Fuck Jobin
drowsy fog
☝️
minor ore
Historia I'm dragging you too
ebon rampart
Jobin isnt dead
he pulls out a silly straw and sucks all of his blood back
and goes ‘ight den’
white beacon
Damn steph, you're on that side huh
royal gale
if araki confirms jobin is gone i will end him
gentle venture
yea man jobin knows how to suck mitsuba would know
royal gale
i bet he had some heat stored up and cauterized the wounds or some crazy shit idk
young meteor
I'm joking.
royal gale
What part of Mitsuba does he suck like a straw
@drowsy fog all of them????
the only logical conclusion
white beacon
Hi joking
young meteor
Hi Jan-chan
drowsy fog
I'm stuff
white beacon
:))
crude orchid
so for jobin dying
drowsy fog
I hope Hato's prediction is correct
crude orchid
he has so much bad karma
Wonder of You will kill him using that (theres enough evidence for me to belive that's its name)
crude orchid
i just embraced the crapiness
drowsy fog
Anyone remembers which chapter Jobin's luck speech is from?
Also Tooru will hide in a springlock suit to escape Norisuke's and Jobin's vengeful spirits confirmed
drowsy fog
Yes
crude orchid
i was thinking about how crazy the fandom was about the stand ad its user
and out of nowhere i just
Tooru...the man behind...the slaughter
drowsy fog
IT'S BEEN SO LONG
SINCE LAST I'VE SHAGGED YASUHO
LOST TO THIS MONSTER
TO THE MAN BEHIND THE (rock human) SLAUGHTER
crude orchid
diavolos lice wants to kill me for this but you are just loving it
i said i embrace the crapiness
drowsy fog
Yes I know in this context the man behind the slaughter is Josuke not Tooru but shuddup
minor ore
I do not like tooru (anymore)
ebon rampart
white beacon
formaggio why did you say yasuho
crude orchid
neither black or white text would work because its all just black and white so i just made it really bad
ebon rampart
This video made me like his character a bit more doe
or maybe its just the song idk
minor ore
Great moves tooru!!! It would be better if it was seizure Tho 🤭 ❤️ ❤️
drowsy fog
Because I fucked up the joke and made Tooru out to be the mother and not purple guy@white beacon
minor ore
So you guys know how there is an Araki Doodle website? Some of the doodles from the last 6 volumes weren’t uploaded, so I’m going to dump photos of them in here tomorrow
I took this from a fairy comment-
There are some really cute ones of yasuho
crude orchid
ok
minor ore
And some unseen Josuke ones
ebon rampart
Ew yasuhoe
crude orchid
i wish i could show my friends my bad maymay but none of them are fully caught up
minor ore
ebon rampart
Only accepting joshu and josuke doodles
ebon rampart
damn its only morning for me
crude orchid
Tooru is the man behind the slaughter
drowsy fog
This is the best araki doodle btdubs
crude orchid
to bad hes dying lmao
i dont think he'll die
also i have made much better doodles
drowsy fog
I would say "Araki wouldn't kill achild" but then again he killed a baby in Phantom Blood
WHY DO I KEEP CALLING TSURUGI A TODDLER BY ACCIDENT
I swear he looks 4 years old to me
crude orchid
we need to get some tooru emotes
i wish carco wasnt on do not disturb so i could ask him about it
white beacon
they don't plan on adding or replacing any emotes for now
ebon rampart
minor ore
young meteor
ebon rampart
minor ore
Also didn’t that baby drown
Like when tsurugi used pmk on the mother
And I think she dropped it in the fountain and couldn’t see it
Holly sees things as objects I wonder what would happen if tsurugi attacked her with pmk
minor ore
Yea
It was stated earlier on
She sees people as objects and also mistakes her fingers for food
She ate them all away
white beacon
i think erik was just confused at the part where you "things as objects" because things are indeed, objects
minor ore
Yea
Also ummm
The chess board in 83 is full of daiyas chest pieces
Because they have the memory bubble
I’m almost sure CKB brainwashed everyone during the 2 hours that are left
ebon rampart
coral cliff
She doesn't die
minor ore
oh phew
gentle venture
bruh she is narrator of the story
coral cliff
I just read the chapter
upper knoll
Yasuho is dying for a few chapters now
The story doesnt move fast enough for her to finally die tho!!!
coral cliff
Tooru is definitely a major player in the story
The way he was revealed
He's not the head doctor
minor ore
sadly I'm still on steel ball run and how many chapters is jojolion up to?
upper knoll
97
minor ore
wow
upper knoll
Longer than SBR, yes
minor ore
It took me 20ish hours to read all of SO
minor ore
lmao
coral cliff
I think the stand attacking the Higashikata Household is Tooru's stand
I also believe this stand is taking on the appearance of the Head Doctor to trick everybody
minor ore
is it an automatic stand?
coral cliff
Meanwhile, the real Head Doctor is also going around doing stuff
minor ore
Or does Tooru have full control
coral cliff
That's how the Head Doctor can be in multiple locations at once
Tooru has used his stand to create a facade of the Head Doctor
minor ore
so it's not automatic
coral cliff
Also, I suspect that Tooru's stand is called Crazy Train
I have no evidence for this however, other than he was listening to Crazy Train on an iPod, and he was really into it
kind owlBOT
@coral cliff, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !
coral cliff
He was doing a dance and everything
minor ore
Yea
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
minor ore
I can see that
coral cliff
This means that Ozzy Osbourne canonically exists in the JoJo universe
minor ore
Just like Weird Al
coral cliff
This adds strong evidence to my theory that characters name their stands after songs in-universe
So, Rohan listened to Heaven's Door, really liked it, and so named his stand after it
minor ore
I can see that
coral cliff
I guess Kira is a huge Queen fan as well
As Diavolo is a fan of, well, King Crimson
But wait, hold on a second
None of the part 7 names make sense then
They're all songs that came out in the future
I'm overthinking this aren't i
violet hemlock
really overthinking it
coral cliff
Also, I really buy the idea of the Head Doctor as a villain now
This chapter shows a supreme badass moment on his part
minor ore
@violet hemlock remember when we were discussing how jobin would die
Who would've thought he would die like that
coral cliff
I don't even understand how he died
All I know is that it had something to do with the hair spray
glass lily
what if he didn't die though
kind owlBOT
@glass lily, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
glass lily
that much blood has been shown coming out of people who have lived on in other parts of the series
minor ore
Yup
coral cliff
So, I looked up the YouTube page for Crazy Train
Already people are talking about the Head Doctor
upper knoll
It already did yesterday
minor ore
So jobin is the Diego of Jojolion huh?
violet hemlock
what
gentle venture
the sub villian that also fights the main villian
runic shoal
Can’t wait for gappy to beat the shit out of tooru it’s going to be legendary
Hope that man straight up boxes him like he did to the rock brothers
minor ore
^^^^^^
minor ore
"this is a test..."
runic shoal
A blood test
gentle venture
bruh
minor ore
😔
runic shoal
I really hope this is a way to reintroduce kaato
Since she was working with jobin and now he’s probably gonna be out of commission for a while
kind owlBOT
@runic shoal, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
runic shoal
Please araki don’t kyo her
gentle venture
bruh imagine tooru gets put in her pocket dimension
runic shoal
Kaato bouta end this calamity
gentle venture
they better not pull a diego on jobin
runic shoal
Especially since jobin was starting to establish himself as the main villain
It’d be a waste of his character to kill him off here
minor ore
He is such a good character i doubt araki will kill him off like that
runic shoal
Yeah there’s no way his entire character has lead up to being fodder for mister cinnamon roll
gentle venture
this is why we don't get too attached to characters
minor ore
EXACTLY
runic shoal
It’s not even that
gentle venture
diego flashbacks intensifies
glass lily
I'm hoping every "death" that's happening right now end up being fake outs, especially norisuke since I felt from the moment he was shown being dead before being shown getting killed that it wouldn't be true
glass lily
jobin was still making a noise in the last panel he was shown in so there is hope
runic shoal
Yeah and araki didn’t do the thing where his body is sparkling and his eyes are all hazy
So I don’t think he’s dead yet
gentle venture
perfect opportunity for his stand to evolve
glass lily
could be making these fake out deaths so our guard is down for when the actual ones happen so there is more impact
minor ore
Oh no
runic shoal
Dude at this point like
If this shit isn’t killing characters anymore they’re gonna need to fucking explode
minor ore
Both are hoes so they gon die
gentle venture
bruh gappy and jobin definetly gotta have their stands evolve in their fights
minor ore
10 pages ora his mfing AFRO hair
gentle venture
maybe even at the same time
minor ore
They're gonna team to take out tooru and the head doctor
All the family will team up
LES GOO
gentle venture
maybe kyo might even come back if there is hope
minor ore
She died lol
gentle venture
noooooooooooooooooo
glass lily
at this point I wouldn't put it past araki to reveal that kaato was the mastermind behind everything the whole time
just adding more crazy twists to this story
minor ore
I wouldn't be surprised tbh
But the thing is that if she is the mastermind behind everything, her son is in a big danger
minor ore
Bruh
craggy plume
ch 64
runic shoal
I agree
minor ore
Oh yeah what happened to that dog
gentle venture
i guess he got kyoed cause i think he survived the ozone baby fight
ebon rampart
lol ‘kyoed’
upper jetty
the hd was asking that gay scientist dude bout his pimples but the hd litteraly has spikes growing outta his cheeks
supple totem
josuke joestar about jobin evolving his stand..
it's likely not going to happend
he dead
gentle venture
this is just a test he must surpass his limit
supple totem
he must endure 3 liter bloodloss
gentle venture
worse has happened
jotaro survived literally holes you could see through
although the neck injury is fatal
jobin is totally gonna survive this
he has joshu and hato
supple totem
give him a snickers
coral cliff
If the villain stand isn't named Crazy Train, I will be severely disappointed
ebon rampart
The stand will just be a train
supple totem
i 'm still hoping for black hole sun
gentle venture
Thomas the train has entered the chat
glass lily
the steel ball run universe final form villain stand theme will just be trains
coral cliff
I think the Head Doctor's stand is Crazy Train, and he's using it against the Higashikatas for whatever reason
glass lily
love train, crazy train...I wonder how many more train songs there are
coral cliff
When the reporter showed up, he had to temporarily recall it to kill the reporter
That's why Jobin didn't immeidately die
Because the stand had to be recalled to deal with the reporter
I think Tooru's stand is something completely different, and he and Jobin are gonna fight
near cedar
Pretty hard considering Jobin is critically wounded
glass lily
it's been a while since there's been a proper fight, that would be nice
coral cliff
Yeah, that's fair
coral cliff
How the hell is Josuke going to fight Crazy Train?
Yeah, Soft and Wet is strong, but it can't bypass Karma
near cedar
HD is coming to him
coral cliff
Wait
What if Josuke makes a net of bubbles around himself to trap any projectiles created by Crazy Train
near cedar
We still don't know if the Karma theory Memezuku said is correct
glass lily
soft and wet could have a new ability due to josukes new partial rock state
near cedar
That could also work
Also possible
Have to wait a month
Cries in JoJolion reader
At least it comes out more consistantly then Berserk
glass lily
the monthly wait is the sad downside of catching up
but it does mean that jojolion has gone on for so long, which is great since I really don't want this part to end
minor ore
I strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger. Those who attempt to poison and destroy my jojolion. And they will know my name is the Jobin Stan when I lay my vengeance upon you
near cedar
Did you just make a fucking Pulp Fiction reference?!
minor ore
No I took it from god is a woman
minor ore
it oke
merry moat
shiiiiiiiiiiiit that new chapter amirite ladies?
minor ore
Join the tooru hate club today
merry moat
toorus a pp head
i saw a thing in some youtube guys comment section
they think the head doctor and tooru share a soul
minor ore
I've seen the same thing but everywhere
drowsy fog
In this channel we stan Tooru. Sorry smoothbrained Jacksepticeye stans
ashen raft
Jobin was poop but tooru managed to be poom
ocean mirage
the reversed S punch
runic shoal
Scythe punch
minor ore
Yay
kind skiff
Nice
runic shoal
Damn that was quick
ocean mirage
haven't watched a whole lot of jojotuber ever since that one video that shuckmeister made
ocean mirage
which jojotuber suggested that king crimson gonna appear again?
drowsy fog
Shuckmeister more like poopmeister
ebon rampart
I think it was meti or xforts
drowsy fog
Xforts really said that for the rokakaka to heal Jobin it would have to trade something of EQUAL VALUE to his heart huh
Ah yes, pimples and the spine
Body parts of equal value
ocean mirage
oh damn
ebon rampart
and heal all of his wounds
grizzled pilot
is the exchange "equivalent" or not
runic shoal
Hot take
All jojotubers are mediocre
Just like most you tubers
But it alright it’s YouTube who is going there for high quality content
near cedar
I like a few tubers and some jojotubers are okay sometimes
But most are just shit
Or mediocre
Make your own theories :p
runic shoal
Oh no yeah there are some good youtubers out there but the vast majority aren’t too good
Idk if disco ballad counts as a jojotuber? His shit is pretty good though
ocean mirage
i think the best part is the comments on those videos
minor ore
@drowsy fog I stan
drowsy fog
Yosh
near cedar
But we already had that idea
ocean mirage
we stan tooru here?
near cedar
That he will live
minor ore
No
near cedar
No
minor ore
WE DONT STAN THAT ROACH
near cedar
Tooru hurt our boi Jobin
minor ore
^
ocean mirage
isn't it the HD that kills jobin?
ocean mirage
ok?
minor ore
So yeah we don't stan
ocean mirage
maybe after he saves yasuho
white beacon
He's gonna pop off while ignoring yasuho then come back only to say. "Sorry yasuho-chan, but thank you for getting me into the higashikata estate"
night moon
minor ore
I'm saying Fuck tooru everyday until jobin gets revived or gets healed
Bruh
I like it lol
He looks actually better
minor ore
I swear he does
ebon rampart
Give him joshu hair and he becomes chad
minor ore
Heck yeah
night moon
the tooru with some brim
frozen charm
Tooru haircut is cringe but he do be jammin
drowsy fog
Someone put the reporter's hair on him
ebon rampart
oh god why
ocean mirage
i just don't get how the reporter lost his whole fuckin head just to get clear skin
frozen charm
The head doctors stand redirected the equivalent exchange
grizzled pilot
the head doctor has found some way to bypass the equivalent part of the exchange
frozen charm
Since he persued him
hoary sun
Someone make brim with no tooru
night moon
ocean mirage
oh right
frozen charm
Simular to when josuke drank the lokakaka drink and the head doctor made the rocks block his mouth
hoary sun
“How calamitous that it took your spine for your acne”
ocean mirage
why was he facing the corner when the reporter came in
grizzled pilot
weird.
ebon rampart
ocean mirage
i've heard of that
hoary sun
same mind*
ocean mirage
what if tooru was controlling HIM
hoary sun
Maybe the song wonder of you is like doppio’s phone call... but he uses it to transfer his consciousness
And crazy train switches to tooru
night moon
upper knoll
wtf Tooru color scheme Josuke kinda hot
tacit cairn
I think tooru's stand consists in swapping/switching two consciousnessess and akefu's stand is a long range stand that works with the pursue/calamity system, and they're in fact collaborating
white beacon
Damn, I just realized that Akefu made something that would pretty much aid our protagonists against him. He made 6251. If Josuke and Co. ever need to get fixed up, they can use it and not worry about death because it was made for the primary reason to not have the rocks form on parts that would pretty much kill you if they got rockified
night moon
is the reason why akefu wants the rokakaka because he's in 2 bodies but has one soul and wants to merge them like josefumi and kira?
night moon
yeah but araki isn't gonna write all this and just say "money lol"
near cedar
Rokaka didn't merge Fumi and Kira
night moon
there's gotta be more
near cedar
It was the wall eyes
minor ore
I mean, some main villains in jojo had stupid motivation for being involved in the story
"condom broke"
ebon rampart
queen fox
I think we're going to go back to Shakedown road
Josuke still owes an old man 30 bucks
tacit cairn
LES FEILLEUS
tacit cairn
But then the calamity system switches on and the world falls apart
queen fox
I believe the HD is going to die earlier than we think
white beacon
Dude, johnny got shot because he shot his kid, and the corpse's ability to redirect misfortune activated and sent the rock disease and the shot to johnny
tacit cairn
I have the feeling that araki's going to finish part 8 before the part 6's animation gets done
ocean mirage
sooner than that
ashen raft
I actually never got the part where Johnny got shot but if what Jan says is true
ebon rampart
Johnny shot himself
queen fox
bruh, explain how Johnny got the rock disease then got shot?
wouldn't it be the other way around?
long flax
The end is nigh lol
kind owlBOT
@long flax, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
queen fox
and it's formatted almost the same as poor tom's death
white beacon
Because that's what the corpse can do?? It even originally transferred rina's rock disease to george
queen fox
no way that's just a coincidence
ashen raft
the manga mentioned an "equivalent exchange" so what you're saying is only backed up by things that happened in the last part
queen fox
why would the corpse send back the shot? If anything, that just sounds like karma, calamity
ashen raft
it never said anything about ticket to ride or whatever the heck that corpse ability was called
long flax
I think next chapter we'll get a proper description of this stand finally
queen fox
Araki is showing that he's planning shit out this part, everything is connected one way or another
near cedar
Johnny shot George
George got the corpse placed inside him getting Ticket To Ride
Which gave Johnny the rock desies
And then the shot he fired at George to make sure it went to him killed him
I am not sure on the last part
But that's what i think it happened
Jan correct me if i'm wrong
white beacon
The corpse never went inside him I think, since it was kept in a closed briefcase
ocean mirage
he shot thru his kid into the corpse
near cedar
Unconfirmed
ashen raft
probably not
queen fox
no
ashen raft
-Joseph Joestar 1988
queen fox
Johnny shot his head, never hitting the suitcase
white beacon
ocean mirage
what's the chapter when that was explained?
ocean mirage
why not johnny?
white beacon
Johnny shoot his son, he then gains the rock disease, and then the same shot
His son is completely fine and even highlighted by araki
Because fate is a bitch I guess
queen fox
none of this explains why Johnny was shot
white beacon
Johnny was shot because he shot George, so along with transferring the disease, the shot that should have been inflicted onto him was also transferred to Johnny
If that wasn't the case, George would have been shot completely
queen fox
Johnny got it before getting shot, are you not seeing that?
he transferred it directly to himself
ashen raft
so the shot he made afterwards was to ensure the host of the disease died off
ocean mirage
hmm
ocean mirage
he shot himself?
queen fox
I wonder who else shows a similar death hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
white beacon
I dunno about you man, but I guess we can believe our own crackpot theories on why Johnny was shot and ignore that he clearly shot through George and then Johnny gains the rock disease and gets the same shot while George is completely fine
queen fox
Johnny doesn't have to shot per say, it's the transferring of disease via rotation
it's not even a shot if you look at it
white beacon
Nah, I'm done with this, I've said what I said
queen fox
It's implied in this chapter that Josuke will come back to Shakedown road; you've also got the fact that it's just a legend too, so don't believin everything
It's likey Araki wants us to think one way then shock us by saying the HD was at the start all along
ashen raft
yeah let's just disregard that every medium in existence that has legends as a plot point eventually confirms them to be truths
although it'd be funny if araki subverted our expectations
Which isn't unlikely
queen fox
why would Araki imply that they'll go back just to prove that it was true anyways? There is something we're not understanding about this legend, we still need to connect the dots of 1901 and the mysterious baby
ashen raft
point is
there is no reason to confirm it or even deny it
it's all there is to it so that's all there is to believe
queen fox
that's why we make theories and look at something from a different view point
ashen raft
a point of view substantiated by zilch you mean
queen fox
from nothing ya, ignoring how Poor Tom and Johnny died the same way, that's just me ignoring new information
vast ermine
I FUCKIBNG KNEW TOORU WAS AN EVIL BASTARD
kind owlBOT
@vast ermine, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
vast ermine
FUCK TOORU
coral cliff
Theory time
In the first half of Chapter 97, we see the calamity effect simply stop for several minutes
Long enough for Jobin to wander the house and see Tooru
Then, just as Jobin sees Tooru, the ability starts back up again
coral cliff
Here's my theory
vast ermine
HIS SON
coral cliff
@vast ermine No, he isn't
vast ermine
Im just joshin lol
coral cliff
We see very explicitly in this chapter that Satoru Akefu is a real person
And I think the karma stand is his stand, and I will explain why
I will refer to the Head Doctor's stand as Crazy Train
Simply because its abilities are very similar to Love Train, and because it's one of the songs that Tooru was listening to
So, here's what I think happened
The Head Doctor projected his stand at the Higashikata Estate
ebon rampart
imagine if the songs he was listening to was just a little music reference and just that
coral cliff
But, when the reporter from the science journal showed up, he temporarily recalled his stand
vast ermine
I still think the head doctors stand could also be called "Come as you are"
coral cliff
Then, he used his stand to manipulate the reporter's negative karma to kill him
ebon rampart
Remember when people thought his stand would be called Karma Chameleon
vast ermine
I mean its still possible
coral cliff
That done, the Head Doctor moved his stand back to the Higashikata Household, causing Jobin to be dangerously wounded
I guess I could compare it to Kira recalling Bites the Dust in order to protect himself
Also, I suspect the stand's ability is manual, not automatic
The reason is that the Head Doctor wasn't aware of the reporter's intention to pursue him, and the reporter managed to make it all the way to the Head Doctor's office without getting fucked up
How does some nobody get right next to the Head Doctor when Josuke couldn't even get to his public lecture?
Answer: Because the stand isn't as omnipotent as we think it is
coral cliff
The Head Doctor wasn't aware of this reporter until the reporter went to confront him
Once that happened, he is almost immediately killed
And the Doctor asks "Are you pursuing me?"
If the stand went after everyone who pursued the Head Doctor, he'd already know the answer to his own question
coral cliff
Here is another question though
Josuke says "If can't pursue the Head Doctor, I will force him to pursue me."
Presumably, this is why Josuke sent the package
The Head Doctor doesn't know how many people Josuke has told about Holy
near cedar
coral cliff
If the public finds out about Holy, all the stando powa in the world won't protect the Head Doctor
He will lose his medical license and will likely be thrown into jail for kidnapping and illegal experimentation
So, the Head Doctor cannot afford to leave Josuke alone
The Head Doctor presumably knows that Mamezuku and Josuke are together
near cedar
He might not have noticed Rai
coral cliff
So the Head Doctor leaves his office, walks outside, and tails Mamezuku, hoping to be led to Josuke
coral cliff
The Head Doctor is likely about to confront Josuke in order to interrogate him about the security footage
Josuke is getting his wish, to meet the Head Doctor
And the Head Doctor will most likely kill him once he has the information he needs
"Higashikata Josuke, you have disrupted my plans for the last time. Prepare to die."
Anyway, here's something else I want to discuss
At the end of the chapter, we get confirmation that Tooru and Akefu are working together
minor ore
I really think Jobin will die
coral cliff
We know this because Tooru says "Higashikata Josuke isn't pursuing; he's inviting"
minor ore
we're due for a character death
near cedar
Not Jobin
coral cliff
How the hell would Tooru know that
minor ore
the math is telling me someone has to die
near cedar
Yes
ebon rampart
I dont think jobin is dead yet
minor ore
well okay let's see
queen fox
KATOO
near cedar
The flashforward
coral cliff
How would Tooru know what was happening at TG university
minor ore
in the flash forward Jobin is fine ain't he?
near cedar
Yes
Somebody sent the panel yesterday and he was in it
Now how the fuck does he live is my question
minor ore
good question
ebon rampart
What chapter was the flash forward in?
queen fox
can I see the panel?
coral cliff
Past manipulation
near cedar
I can't remember the chapter
coral cliff
Manipulating the past to change the present
This is the Head Doctor's true ability
Or at least part of it
queen fox
sounds stupid af
minor ore
:/
queen fox
but ok
minor ore
I really don't think so
coral cliff
Yeah ur righy
minor ore
Look I'm not gonna say 100% wrong since we don't know
coral cliff
It's stupid
minor ore
But I'm just having a hard time seeing it
coral cliff
It's just... something about the scene with the reporter strikes me as really important
near cedar
Even if it's wrong it's interesting and who knows it might be correct
Araki can spin anything to be awesome
@white beacon sorry for pinging again for idk which time today but do you perhaps know what chapter the flash forward was? The one that's 2 hours from the events of the latest chapter
coral cliff
The Head Doctor says to the reporter "Well, to know it's a fruit, you had to remove it from the jar. And in doing so, you probably got some of the juice on your fingers. And if you were to touch your face, the juice might enter your body through your face."
That string of events is extremely specific
How does the Head Doctor know that's what happened?
It's almost like he's willing that series of events into existence with his words
coral cliff
Another thing tho
Don't you have to consume 2/3 of the fruit to trigger an equivalent exchange?
queen fox
I think it's by grams
minor ore
that was the old fruit wasn't it?
coral cliff
No way a few drops of fruit juice would trigger it
And yet, that is exactly what happened
minor ore
yeah so
analog spruce
minor ore
I think since he didn't drink the whole thing it didn't work properly
like if you only take a little, it doesn't fully work so it gets fucked up
coral cliff
And that's why he died?
queen fox
the HD showed that he can make rain pierce skin, why not enchance the fruit?
ebon rampart
Ok i found out that the fastforward chapter is chapter 83
queen fox
or it's effects I mean
coral cliff
I have a theory
Mamezuku was talking about "Karma" right?
The concept that every action you take is remembered
chrome grove
Yo @analog spruce that shit fire
minor ore
yes
coral cliff
What if the Head Doctor was able to manipulate people through their karma
Let me explain
It has been said that stand users are connected through a "thread of fate"
What if you could travel along one person's personal "thread of fate", their "karma", and alter the details of their actions
Maybe the Head Doctor's stand was in play
It just took a while to kick in for whatever reason
minor ore
was in play where?
white beacon
@near cedar Chapter 83, Countdown To The Harvest
near cedar
Thanks again Jan!
minor ore
@coral cliff i see where you're going though
it does seem like that Satoru's stand can like
rewrite time
ebon rampart
Damn i literally said it was chapter 83
minor ore
lmao
near cedar
Sorry Scatt didn't see
near cedar
Here it is
The Jobin alive panel
Norisuke seems to be fine tho that could be Paper Moon King
OR it could mean the Norisuke upstairs is actually Yasuho
near cedar
HMMMM
minor ore
so there's no way they used the fruit to heal
near cedar
Or is that just telling us that that's how much time is left in the 7 days prior
See now you have confused me and i am no longer sure how to interpret that
minor ore
lmao
I'm watching this video
and he makes a joke "What if Tooru's ipod is a like a Ben10 omnitrix and can select stands by picking songs"
what chapter was the flashback
83 was the flashforward
I don't think there was a flashback
yeye mb
minor ore
ben10 omnitrix
ebon rampart
😔
ebon rampart
magenta magenta is young akefu
drowsy fog
Magenta guy
burnt kite
Here's a question for y'all:
Tooru is clearly a known and native resident of Morioh, but the HD is a Rock Human who isn't originally from there, so why are they conjoined?
azure canopy
so I was looking at the JJL wiki page, and I found this:
"Araki described the story of JoJolion as being the solving of a "curse" (呪い, noroi). Curses, he goes on, are the sins of the ancestors and this makes people "unclean" (穢れ, kegare), and if this curse continues it will only turn into "resentment" (恨み, urami). Another theme is that from birth we see things as black and white, but this produces a "friction" (摩擦, masatsu) from what humanity really experiences. From these, the "curse" is lifted, this being the goal of the story."
minor ore
Magenta magenta 😍
azure canopy
now that we know that the HD's ability has something to do with karma, that makes me think
Maybe the bad karmaic energy is sent through the bloodline, thus for example, Josuke could be suffering for the sins of Johnny? or smth similar
I could be totally wrong btw, I just wondered that
azure canopy
Wasn't it said that the HD's stand has to do with karma?
burnt kite
In the manga itself? I don't think so
burnt kite
He's comparing it to karma
not saying it's actual karma
why would Rai just suddenly understand the full inner workings of his stand?
noble haven
burnt kite
I think he's just being dramatic about it, we've seen the stand cause "calamities" out of perfectly mundane actions
noble haven
minor ore
I’m getting the new ones soon, I’m on the hunt for a tooru one
azure canopy
maybe you keep constantly paying your sins even when doing simple things?
minor ore
Since araki doodles website doesn’t update anymore
drowsy fog
Why is Tooru so hot
burnt kite
part 8 Kira is hotter
minor ore
Idk but I’m gonna buy the volume that tooru gets introduced
white beacon
I'm pretty sure karma has nothing to do with it, since Akefu himself pretty much tried to make that interviewer admit he's pursuing him, and that after that he says that it's better if people don't pursue him
minor ore
So I can find a doodle of him
white beacon
That's what I think
azure canopy
yeah that makes sense
tho I wish there is something that ties back to Johnny at some point
burnt kite
Even in this chapter, punching a damn can of hairspray caused a calamity, so yeah, it's probably not karma
minor ore
There's another doodle of jobin doing the fuckboy pose
Where is it
There's also another sketch of and mitsuba
I need those
minor ore
Oh so I guess that jobin one was already online
azure canopy
oh boy
drowsy fog
These 2 were in mangadex
burnt kite
Man, Mitsuba's stand is so overpowered
kind owlBOT
@burnt kite, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
minor ore
@drowsy fog there's another one jobin UGHGHH I can't find it
ebon rampart
YO THEY SHAGGIN
white beacon
And if you think about it, Jobin has less karma than josuke, if we're going off by kill count as karma
drowsy fog
Yeah but Josuke killed stinky rock humans
Jobin killed dad and made deals with the rock humans
azure canopy
If karma was a bloodline thing, Josuke would be fucked by Johnny's actions
minor ore
Okay but that mitsuba and jobin sketch 👀
drowsy fog
Jobin's leg do be 4ft long
minor ore
LOL
white beacon
Josuke killed akefu's own comrades in the business and same species, relatively speaking, he's done more damage to akefu's side
minor ore
how tall is jobin again?
azure canopy
probs 180~
drowsy fog
Lice I was making a joke
azure canopy
lmaoo
drowsy fog
Reread it
minor ore
:(
drowsy fog
Ok so about Jobin's actual height it's not on the wiki but
azure canopy
I'd say around 180
minor ore
6'0
minor ore
LETS GO
azure canopy
Jobin just standing on a stool while having the beetle fight
minor ore
There's another pic of like him and Karera, If we know how tall is Karera we can easily decide how tall he is
azure canopy
maybe one with Norisuke?
azure canopy
Norisuke is about as tall as Josuke
azure canopy
6' iirc
drowsy fog
Everyone in jojo introduced in part 4 onward is either 6ft (male), 5'6 (female) or 4' (shota size)
No exceptions
minor ore
Narancia is in between
drowsy fog
No he is female height
minor ore
Between female and shota size
ebon rampart
minor ore
Me
azure canopy
what
ebon rampart
tooru’s first appearance hair vs his latest appearance hair
minor ore
Lmao
ebon rampart
drowsy fog
he groove
minor ore
EW he's gross
drowsy fog
you just jealous of his hair
minor ore
My hair would be the same if I cut it cuz my hair is also a bit curly
I wish mine could get poofy
I always wanted curly hair
drowsy fog
I was looking for jobin pics and I found an... interesting image of Echoes act 3 and Koichi doing things together
I have met a terrible demise
why are people the way that they are
I just wanted wholesome jobin
minor ore
Okay so apparently i can get curly hair with my straight hairc
ocean mirage
jobin is wholesome 100
minor ore
Time to grow it ou
minor ore
I should try it haha
ocean mirage
do you have curly hair?
ocean mirage
so basically tooru hair?
blazing bison
tooru hairstyle is incomprehensible to me its just like a fukin hat
how does it levitate like it does
minor ore
It’s not too difficult, I know some peeps with hair like that
minor ore
He keeps to himself though
ocean mirage
rather than the round top like an afro
minor ore
Which I noticed
blazing bison
hard to be sociable when ur running a drug cartel of rock ppl
or being the body guard of the drug cartel
im not quite sure yet
ocean mirage
if only we know more about tooru
blazing bison
dude electromagnetic waves lmao
kind owlBOT
@blazing bison, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
crude orchid
azure canopy
I mean
It could project the image of the HD, which would explain why he can just teleport around anywhere and walk in screens and stuff
tho it's kinda far fetched
bright hedge
thats interesting but didnt they sense it immediately both times its been shown
josuke and the crew i mean
so surely jobin and mitsuba wouldve noticed it in the small bedroom
crude orchid
What if tooru dies because his stand turns on him
He used his stand
For such bad things
That when he approaches it
All the bad karma he has kills him
It was crackpot anyway
ocean mirage
he said bruh so hard his head fell off
minor ore
Yes, he bruhed so hard that he got beheaded
gentle venture
why does that oddly make sense
minor ore
idk
lost slate
Now all we need is the Infinite Spin to return
Then everyone can become Junji Ito spirals
minor ore
Wait what, infinite rotation or infinite spin
lost slate
whoops I meant Infinite Spin
young meteor
Nah, Araki forgot Spin
crude orchid
why do people think that because the head doctor his sentient means that it isnt a stand
sentient stand
c'mon
the tangible by non-stand users is a bit iffy
but that could be part of its ability
young meteor
I believe this has been posted here before.
serene pasture
Honestly i find the 'single mind living in 2 bodies' thing very hard to believe
It just seems very out of character for Araki at this point. His stories are more mature now, so i doubt he'd write something as drastic as Diavolo
it'd be like if Josuke was just the 2 constantly changing personalities of Josefumi and Kira
It's most probably that the HD is a puppet created by his stand
Also, the 2 have to be able to be controlled simultaneously, since Poor Tom got shot from the back while akefu/tooru was driving, meaning they were both 'active' at the time
Also, we only really see the HD being 'inactive', not Tooru. Yeah, there's the singing part, but that's completely different from just standing still in the corner completely lifeless.
halcyon galleon
2 people but same body within the same stream of conciousness? Body change will never happen though.
Part 8 is the most confusing part for me I think
simple kraken
It's not done yet so anything that doesn't make sense is probably just not explained
So that's why it's confusing
halcyon galleon
I just need someone like Speedwagon-san to explain everything that is happening
pulsar yoke
Part 8 pog
runic shoal
No
icy bluff
Tooru vibing while everyone is dying
runic shoal
Tooru is set dude he doesn’t gotta worry at all
icy bluff
What do you guys think about this theory?
runic shoal
I think he was still under the effect of the endless calamity from when he tried to attack the head doctor
Theory sounds pretty good
simple kraken
Yeah it does
night moon
unless dr's stand is crazy train
serene pasture
At this point it's practically impossible they're just teaming up
night moon
yeah they have a psychic thing
runic shoal
Yeah honestly
I’d bet the endless calamity is crazy train
Meaning tooth’s is wonder of you
Tooru*
serene pasture
1- Tooru commented on something that only the HD saw
2- only 4 people entered the locacaca lab: Urban, Tom, Wu, and Akefu. If he truly was another accomplice, he would've entered as well, especially considering he seems to be one of the top dogs of the operation
night moon
tooth and sat assfuck
azure canopy
lmao
serene pasture
honestly i'd be ok with any name except for The Wonder Of You
runic shoal
So you think the head doctor is being controlled by tooru
serene pasture
mainly because it doesn't relate to him much aside from 'in love'
So you think the head doctor is being controlled by tooru
yes
runic shoal
Idk
serene pasture
or maybe tooru is controlled by the hd who knows
runic shoal
Because whenever the head doctor was showing up in places that didn’t make sense araki went out of his way to hide his face
night moon
im personally a big elvis fan though so im biased
serene pasture
or maybe they're both illusions controlled by the true mastermind: iwasuke
runic shoal
Yet tooru has a picture of his face and in the latest chapter we saw it in all its disgusting glory as well as him having a full blown conversation
serene pasture
Because whenever the head doctor was showing up in places that didn’t make sense araki went out of his way to hide his face
When he was facing the dying yasuho his face is seen, even though that one's shown to be illusory
runic shoal
I’d say the theory still holds some weight