#jojolion

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lofty matrix
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Yes amazing design

minor ore
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oh kyo nijimure

tame tide
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jjl character designs >>

simple kraken
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kyo got fucking erased from existence by kaato

tame tide
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we dont even know her real name

minor ore
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shes been erased from the part

elfin rivet
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jjl character/stand designs> every other part

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not even gonna lie for me

minor ore
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photos she was in dont have her anymore

simple kraken
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Yep

elfin rivet
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lmao

simple kraken
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That seems intentional to me

minor ore
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yea defo

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the photo was redrawn

elfin rivet
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She got deleted

minor ore
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so he must have delted her

elfin rivet
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Kira must have gotten to her

lofty matrix
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Or Kaato

minor ore
tame tide
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idgaf about kaato

elfin rivet
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Does kaato have a stand?

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I forget

tame tide
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yes

simple kraken
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Yeah

tame tide
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the cards

elfin rivet
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OH RIGHT

lofty matrix
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Yes ^

elfin rivet
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i legit forgot that thing existed

minor ore
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karera knew about equivalent exchange and how josuke fused what happened

elfin rivet
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What does it do again?'

tame tide
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stores shit

elfin rivet
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Aight thanks

lofty matrix
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I forgot about that too I thought she was going to be the main villain

minor ore
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yea its like Enigma + D4C

elfin rivet
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I can't believe I completely forgot about that tihng

tame tide
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i hope we get to see hollys stand

elfin rivet
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one of the few times i forgot about a stand wtf

minor ore
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i want karera to come back

elfin rivet
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same

lofty matrix
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I think we might see her later on

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She too

minor ore
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she knew that josuke fused and about exchange

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how tho

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where from

elfin rivet
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Bro so many people disappear it seems like

lofty matrix
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Yeah

minor ore
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yea its weird

tame tide
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part 4 2

lofty matrix
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^

elfin rivet
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And I thought that part 4 did that enough

lofty matrix
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Yeah that too

elfin rivet
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lmao

tame tide
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atleast yuya and shit did come back once

elfin rivet
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like tell me other than the finale i dont think we ever saw tonio

lofty matrix
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Josuke is still waiting at the hospital too

elfin rivet
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I don't think he even spoke a line after

tame tide
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he'll probably meet up w/ rai next chapter if its josuke focused

lofty matrix
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Yeah

elfin rivet
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Also is it me or does part 8 not show enough of the really cool stands

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Like king nothing is dope

lofty matrix
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Or Jobin vs Head Doctor too

elfin rivet
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but we only see it like 2 times

lofty matrix
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Soft and Wet

tame tide
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its just not that useful

minor ore
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HD vs Jobin more like rip jobin

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fun fact

elfin rivet
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Like we see awaking III leaves the same ammount of times and we basically just met that stand

simple kraken
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well there wasn't really a need for king nothing

minor ore
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Kaato is the japanese romanization of "Card"

elfin rivet
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I suppose

minor ore
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her name is actually Caato

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as shown by the ring

elfin rivet
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But still though

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such a dope stand

minor ore
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but i prefer Kaato

lofty matrix
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Same

minor ore
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it was shown on her ring

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N to C

lofty matrix
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Hoping she comes back

tame tide
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mitsuba is spade right

elfin rivet
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Atleast pasley park gets a good amount of spotlight

minor ore
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she was mentioned and drawn

elfin rivet
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i love that stand

minor ore
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and now yasuho might die

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im so sad

elfin rivet
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I swear if she dies

minor ore
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like she tried to kill herself

elfin rivet
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: (

kind owlBOT
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@elfin rivet, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 10 !

minor ore
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and life dealt her so bad

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but shes so positive

lofty matrix
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I think she has plot armor she’ll be fine

minor ore
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not in toorus eyes

elfin rivet
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Hopefully

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though so far

minor ore
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watch him step on her

elfin rivet
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no important character has really died i think

minor ore
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she cant survive other than the rokakaka

elfin rivet
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other than maybe norisuke

tame tide
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norisuke is alive

elfin rivet
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I know

minor ore
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i think jobin is lying

elfin rivet
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I said maybe

minor ore
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he is not alive

vocal mason
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The real question is what happened to Rocky

lofty matrix
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Maybe Joshu might save her

tame tide
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iwasuke is alive

elfin rivet
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Joshu redemtion arc

vocal mason
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I know but he's a good boy I wanna see him

minor ore
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Iwasuke CHEW THE NEW rokakaka

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please

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10 people want it

vocal mason
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Rocky > Iwasuke

minor ore
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just like eat it and gone

elfin rivet
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Iwasuke is the hero we all need

minor ore
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like truly

elfin rivet
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People have killed each other and risked their lives for that fruit

minor ore
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i want to know why holy built the rokakaka lab and failed

elfin rivet
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and iwasuke just eats it

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perfect ending

minor ore
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yea

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Iwa means rock

lofty matrix
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Yep

minor ore
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+suke from josuke/norisuke

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cute

elfin rivet
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rocksuke best boy

minor ore
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he is rly cute

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and he can go thru walls

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doge

elfin rivet
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like gimme that dog pls

minor ore
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i luv him

lofty matrix
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Cute

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me too

elfin rivet
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I am not usually a fan of dogs but I woudl adopt in a heart beat

minor ore
elfin rivet
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What a gud boy

minor ore
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buppy

elfin rivet
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Dang

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Seeing gray pupper is so wierd

lofty matrix
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It’s going to look amazing when it gets animated.

elfin rivet
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Since i read the black and white

minor ore
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the last we saw of kyo

lofty matrix
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I prefer color

minor ore
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also same

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i read in B&W

elfin rivet
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Bro look at your boy on the lower left

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xD

lofty matrix
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I try reading in black-and-white with The other parts but decided with color

elfin rivet
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I usually read with color but ppl recommended that i read the black and white this time

tame tide
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the color scans are better for 1-7 clarity wise

minor ore
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i really cant read part 5-7 in B&W

lofty matrix
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With stone ocean in steel ball run

kind owlBOT
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@lofty matrix, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !

minor ore
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Stone ocean is unreadable in BW

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same with SBR

lofty matrix
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Yeah

minor ore
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jojolion is better in B&W imo

elfin rivet
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Bro gyros lips q.q

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end me

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I dont know why

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it just bothers me to no end

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I like gyro but dang

minor ore
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araki is a rock human

elfin rivet
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Obviously

minor ore
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he is the HD

elfin rivet
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He never seems to age so it makes sense

minor ore
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he based them of himself

elfin rivet
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Also them long breaks don't come from nowhere

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No onder he posts jojolion monthly

lofty matrix
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I heard he’s going to make a another part

elfin rivet
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he's asleep for most of the month

lofty matrix
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Like part 9

elfin rivet
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big brain

minor ore
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he said in italian that he will try

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like some note

elfin rivet
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I also heard that it might feature the holy corpse

tame tide
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lucca interview i think

elfin rivet
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Though its more of a theory

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1-3 is stone masks

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4-6 is stand arrows

minor ore
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part 8 is defo gonna have some holy corpse

elfin rivet
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7-8 corpse?

lofty matrix
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Yes?

tame tide
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its already had corpse

simple kraken
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Yeah

elfin rivet
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it did yes

minor ore
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im sure HD is in possesion of something

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like the stand cant be that good

lofty matrix
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yep

elfin rivet
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godlike stand

minor ore
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for real

simple kraken
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Walleyes are a direct effect of the corpse, or Johnny's corpse

elfin rivet
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Allows you to cosplay as joshy

minor ore
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he is like jesus tbh

elfin rivet
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joshu

minor ore
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he judges u on your karma and kills u

elfin rivet
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Like what else is more godly than being able to cosplay like the god joshu

lofty matrix
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Nut King

elfin rivet
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Literally nothing

minor ore
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u have to bald

lofty matrix
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Oh yeah he can just repair her arm.

elfin rivet
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Only the holy corpse could grant you such a atrocious haircut

minor ore
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can he? we havent seen him do it

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he can reattach things that he breaks down

tame tide
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he could screw it back on but itd just fall back off once hes far away enough from yasuho

minor ore
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but not things that fell down naturally

lofty matrix
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Oh yeah I forgot about that.

elfin rivet
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Bro i dont know why but i keep thinking nut king's name is king nut

minor ore
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nut

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king

elfin rivet
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The legend

lofty matrix
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I remember his early design

minor ore
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OMG

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THE HAIR

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NWQJREOIRAHR

lofty matrix
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Yes!!!

minor ore
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cum king call

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it looked like

elfin rivet
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THE LEGEND

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IS THIS THE POWER OF THE HOLY CORPSE?

minor ore
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she has barcode hair too

lofty matrix
elfin rivet
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XD

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WTF

minor ore
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omg gorg

elfin rivet
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He is not ok

minor ore
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he looks like an apex twin

elfin rivet
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HE DOES

minor ore
elfin rivet
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yup

lofty matrix
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Yeah

elfin rivet
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I actually though it was a canadian hat

minor ore
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wait does like Josefumi have the same soul as kira

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why did she think it was kira

elfin rivet
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Cuz of her dimentia thingie i think

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Maybe?

minor ore
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maybe thats how he got his birthmark

elfin rivet
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not sure

minor ore
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his relation with kira possibly

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smth like weather report

elfin rivet
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Oh wait i remember it cuz the same face syndrome came back from part 7 to haunt her

minor ore
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i dont get how he has a birthmark

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i-

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NOT ThAtawertwr

elfin rivet
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HAHAHAHHAH

lofty matrix
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I like how Johnny died

minor ore
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boulder

elfin rivet
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Dude got ceasar'd

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He died for our sins

lofty matrix
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It was like Jonathan death but different

elfin rivet
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Oh gosh

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hmm

simple kraken
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Oops

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That was an accident

elfin rivet
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now that i think about it

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Jonathan left erina and a child

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Johnny left his wife and a child

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hmm...

minor ore
elfin rivet
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xD

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out of context jojolion is great

minor ore
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😳

elfin rivet
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I love the stand = hole thing

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and the fact that norisuke wanted to see a rock penis

minor ore
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you wouldn't show someone your own asshole

lofty matrix
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I can see a Jobin vs Josuke

minor ore
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stands are the same

lofty matrix
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Especially after what he did Yasuho

minor ore
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i can see karera having smth to do with tooru

elfin rivet
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def

minor ore
elfin rivet
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idk why they give off a similar vibe

lofty matrix
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Yeah

minor ore
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the scene of karera eating on the ground

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and like posing

elfin rivet
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Previous "lover" thing with yasuho and josuke

minor ore
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it could be that

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they are like the distractions

lofty matrix
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Maybe

tame tide
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maybe tooru couldve had something to do with josefumi

minor ore
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tooru is weird

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very

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so is karera

lofty matrix
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The first time I saw him I knew I shouldn’t trust him she’s cool

minor ore
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tooru is very like

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oops-

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but actually i meant it

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im sure he planted that bone or smth in that childs throat

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to distract yasuho

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and prove how cool he is

lofty matrix
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Yeah I think the same too

minor ore
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could it-

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could it be love love deluxe that planted it

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idek

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i dont know another stand in jojolion that can plant smth in someones throat

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who tf knows but a stand that can steal stands would be cool

lethal tundra
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White snake copy pasta

minor ore
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at this point im not sure whats even happening like no one is

lofty matrix
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We might see that if they run into more enemy stands

minor ore
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can someone get bites the dust and loop the moment before the harvest 10000 times

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so we never get the end

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araki writes the same chapter until hes ded

lofty matrix
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I think Josuke can use Kira explosive since he’s fused with them.

minor ore
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yea

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ew

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she looks better with her rock nose

crude orchid
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where is the specific image of rai in one of S&W bubbles.its a full body image and hes walking

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you can just tell me

minor ore
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rai also said the bubbles are string

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lemme look for it

lofty matrix
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Or a random power up.

crude orchid
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thx

tame tide
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ozone baby

minor ore
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this?

crude orchid
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oh sorry maybe thats the right chapter but from what qaulity ive seen it hes in the background

lofty matrix
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Yep

tame tide
crude orchid
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that might be the one but it definitly works

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look back in 10 minutes for my epic funny

minor ore
crude orchid
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thank you all

minor ore
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i love rai

crude orchid
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he be like bruh this man aint 89

minor ore
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HD should be around 210 years

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Since Wu was 30 in human and presumably 70 in rock years

crude orchid
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can i post my funny here

minor ore
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😳

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He thick

daring bear
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I love how crusty the image is

crude orchid
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square ass

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the low quality is part of the humor

daring bear
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ikr

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pixels funi!!

minor ore
willow pendant
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I didn’t laugh sorry

crude orchid
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it would be better colored

willow pendant
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Forgive me pls

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I just couldn’t find the funny

crude orchid
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humor is subjective

minor ore
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Not funny didn’t laugh

crude orchid
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but fuck you

willow pendant
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rude

ruby swift
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milagro man is not a curse it’s a blessing

willow pendant
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ok aj

ruby swift
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can’t u just invest in stocks and property

willow pendant
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Aj? More like aj styles. Hahah funni

minor ore
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Ajajaja

willow pendant
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thanks

minor ore
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HD is sexy

ruby swift
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✊🏽

crude orchid
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Persona 5 J -Soft & Wet stole your heart-

willow pendant
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No

crude orchid
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yes

willow pendant
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Persona 5 is cring

crude orchid
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Soft & Wet stole your rudeness

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oooh i have good idea

willow pendant
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Technically soft and wet can’tsteal hearts

minor ore
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😳

willow pendant
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Yo

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that actually looks kinda hot

minor ore
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Jojolion 99 leak 😳

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I found it on twitter

willow pendant
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Damn those abs tho

minor ore
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Ik

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Why can’t HD be like that

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I hate the no nipple male thing

willow pendant
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Bruh would you really want them tho

minor ore
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When there was a female with her tits out

willow pendant
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i mean true there

minor ore
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Like I don’t get it

frozen charm
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Epic spoiler

willow pendant
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spoilers channel

minor ore
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Totally not valentine edit

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🤡

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I thought it was legit till I was the scarf

willow pendant
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oh god dammit

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can’t believe thats funny valentine

minor ore
willow pendant
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I actually thought that was HD

minor ore
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😳

ruby swift
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joshu is so cool I hope he gets requiem

kind owlBOT
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@ruby swift, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

minor ore
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Joshu Requiem over heaven

frozen charm
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Act 4

kind owlBOT
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@frozen charm, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !

minor ore
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so hot

lost slate
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This manga is called JoJolion, and this is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

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But we haven't seen much of Josuke recently

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Therefore, the protagonist should be Joshu

minor ore
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There’s joshu and jobin

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They make JoJo

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😁

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Josuke is kinda boring compared to yasuho, tooru and jobin I much prefer them

lost slate
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I'd want to see Joshu in an actual fight

minor ore
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His stand was intended to be the main JoJo stand

lost slate
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Shakedown Road was with Josuke, and Milagro Man felt more like a curse

minor ore
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So it’s really cool

lost slate
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With his ability, he could do some pretty interesting things

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He feels kind of wasted

minor ore
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Yea but we already have such a diverse cast

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Of course not everyone will shine

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I do hope we see more karera kyo joshu and kaato

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More tooru like his backstory

deep jasper
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Joshu’s stand feels like it could do some Sticky fingers type stuff

old marlin
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Can yeah

deep jasper
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I’m guessing the only fight we’re gonna see from Joshu is either him vs Josuke or he decides to fight Jobin

lethal tundra
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I cant see why he would fight gappy

heavy ledge
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Well joshu admires jobin a lot but he looked effing pissed at him the last two chapters

lethal tundra
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@daring bear bro because of your pfp i thought mamezuku was a femape

daring bear
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Lmao

old marlin
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If only he was

ocean mirage
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that would be good

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jousuke would have a GF after yasuho dies

lost slate
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wdym?

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He has Daiya if Yasuho dies

ocean mirage
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how old is daiya?

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like 15?

young meteor
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16

minor ore
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Crackpot theory:Tooru is caato's father

ocean mirage
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uh

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ok

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i'll take it

lost slate
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Actually, where is Kaato in all this?

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I really hope Araki remembered her and Kyo

white beacon
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Araki definitely remembers kaato, her influence on jobin and how her being an ex criminal has played out in the lives of tsurugi and mitsuba shows how important she is

bright hedge
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I was expecting a whole kaato vs rai thing or something like that in the prison tbh

minor ore
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do you think there's a chance that Tooru is another Kaato's son?

hoary sun
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Araki has never left a stand unnamed this long before. Kaato is coming back

tame tide
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why would tooru be kaato's son

grizzled pilot
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cries in holy kujo

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unnamed since 1989

minor ore
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Idk, maybe she had an affair in prison

simple kraken
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bro that can't be possible

minor ore
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i don't remember how many years she was imprisoned

simple kraken
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She was locked up 15 years ago

minor ore
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oh ok

ocean mirage
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If she was locked up for 15 years and tooru is 19 that would mean she have the affair way before she goes to prison

white beacon
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There's actually been quite a lot of stands and even users that were left unnamed before even at the end of their parts

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The names were revealed in artbooks

hoary sun
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Oh, I suppose that’s true. But he hasn’t done that since around part 5, yes?

kind owlBOT
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@hoary sun, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !

minor ore
kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

old marlin
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@hoary sun Water Boiling stand from part 6, unnamed

white beacon
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Electricity stand from part 5 too

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But luciano probs just means like, major characters and their stands

old marlin
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Implying Kaato is a major character

long flax
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Who?

old marlin
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Exactly

long flax
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The plot is advancing so slow it might be 2030 before it ends

thorn pier
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It isn't though

old marlin
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Its advancing pretty fast

thorn pier
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Yeah

lost slate
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How you can tell someone hasn't read jjl

old marlin
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They dont talk about it

lethal thicket
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is it pretty much confimed tooru is the calamity stand user

old marlin
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Duh

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No

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Its whatever you think it is

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As of now we're still supposed to be grasping at straws

lethal thicket
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the design of the stand's eyes and toorus shirt are very similar

old marlin
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We don't know anything definitive about this Head Doctor Attack other than it's purely a stand

minor ore
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its gappy

tame tide
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sometimes araki just repeats designs because he thinks it looks cool

lethal thicket
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I think in this case araki actually did plan ahead a lot

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Going off the assumption that Tooru is related to the stand,I think Araki already foreshadowed how to disable the calamity: Touching Tooru. I've read chapter 86 again and I've noticed during the hospital chase that Yasuo didn't really get hurt throughout the entire thing. I first thought that the touching might've been, you know sexual tension, but I think there was more to it. Each time Yasuo got touched by Tooru, she didn't get any kind of harm her way until she saw the back of the "head doctor" again. At the end of the chapter, the arm touch was to reset the ability since she saw the back again. Notice how the others still had calamity coming after them, noticeably Mitsuba who hasn't really been chasing the doctor, expect for Yasuo.
I may be wrong, but I really think there was more to those touching panels then was originally let on.

old marlin
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Not a bad theory at all

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At the time I theorized her being focused on Tooru at the time negated the "attacks when you go after the head doctor" trigger

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But the touch could also be what negated the calamity at that moment

minor ore
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WHO PINGED

soft raptor
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Toruu is the HD

lethal tundra
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Thats a good theory

young meteor
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Josefumi's father is Tooru

soft raptor
thorn pier
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TOORU IS NOT THE HD

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STOP SAYING THAT

willow pendant
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ok

young meteor
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Turn off the caps lock bro.

minor ore
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bro

thorn pier
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I am doing it to get my point through, which is necessary, clearly, since everyone keeps fucking saying it still.

old marlin
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Right

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Theres a ton of things that could be going on

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all as plausible as the last

thorn pier
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Yeah, I do admit that I am not sure what Tooru's role will be in the story if he is not the user of the HD stand.

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And I don't think we'll have another thing going on right now, there's already a lot

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But I am certain that the head doctor physically exists.

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And so it only makes sense for him to be the user.

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And not Tooru.

old marlin
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Its interesting to think about the head doctor stand being visible from a picture

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And how seeing a picture of him is enough to activate his ability

thorn pier
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Hmm... yeah good point.

bright hedge
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I saw a great comment on reddit which seemed almost 100% plausible to me

minor ore
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Which is?

bright hedge
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I dont think it's anything to do with karma

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I think its literally what you make it out to be

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For a example the "karma" only started affected the child murderer the moment he believed that it was affecting him

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And everyone who has seen it

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Has had a different trigger

old marlin
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He also saw him

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I dont think its necessarily what you think it is

bright hedge
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I think that Rai was testing to see how he could trigger the stand

old marlin
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I think it's the act of thinking you'll be attacked

bright hedge
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Yeah there could be some differences

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But I think the karma stuff is bullshit

white beacon
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the stand activating depending purely on what the target thinks? it's kinda meta but i'm not up for that personally

#

it's way too arbitrary

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and is completely useless once you think there is no trigger at all, compeltely nullifying the entire ability

bright hedge
#

Well yeah

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That's what we saw

#

Rai had no intention this chapter of going towards the stand in any way

#

And he was completely fine

#

The moment he even attempted to go towards it, the lightbulb exploded and everything flew at him

#

But I dont think its necessarily useless

#

It has other functions which we began to see with the Mitsuba section of the chapter

old marlin
#

Yeah i think "whatever you think it is" is too arbitrary

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even "thinking you will be attacked" is as arbitrary

white beacon
#

mitsuba just saw his back and then the droplet hurt her happened, she never thought much of him before then

bright hedge
#

Also didn't Yasuho only get effected by it when she tried to see his face

#

Rather than simply chasing him

minor ore
#

just think "the trigger is an alien" and you'll never activate it

#

or something you won't see for certain

bright hedge
#

I also think it's different for mitsuba rather than just seeing him

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I think it's her desire to find out why he is on the property/what he's doing there/trying to get him off th property or something similar anyway

minor ore
#

Also didn't Yasuho only get effected by it when she tried to see his face

i don't think so

#

Tooru showed her his face already

#

why would she want to look at it again?

bright hedge
#

The whole reason he started chasing him was to see his face

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She ran after him to see his face

#

However notice that she has seen his face before, and now it's not attacking her

#

As far as we know anyway

white beacon
#

it's not attacking her because the head doctor isn't her target

#

it's jobin

bright hedge
#

Exactly

white beacon
#

it's definitely within araki's writing style to add something like this, where it's up to the target to activate the ability on themselves, but i feel like it's too random and entirely unreliant as something of a threat, completely being barred no use in the case of a final fight wherein the characters know what the trigger is

old marlin
#

The Trigger is just breathing again

#

Doobie Wah requiem

#

Think about it...

#

It is NOTHING like Doobie Wah

bright hedge
#

Well we've seen now that it can also attack @white beacon

#

So there are more stipulations

#

Or more

#

That it can advance on a person

#

No attack yet i guess

#

So it can be offensive not just defensive

white beacon
#

another thing i'd like to note is that the guy in prison had no outside disaster come unto him, unlike everything else we've seen before. though he saw the head doctor, that doesn't matter much since he didn't give a damn about that and just wanted rai to shut up

#

he was the one holding the knife and as rai says, it's self-injury

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while in every other instance of the head doctor's ability happening, it was always an outside force which the characters have no directly control to

#

so i don't think he'd count and it was just rai guilt tripping him

bright hedge
#

Because the murderer believed personally that it was karma

#

And so the stand effected him via karma

#

Is my explanation for now

old marlin
#

Maybe rai grabbed his hand and made him stab himself

bright hedge
#

He believed that it was going to effect him via karma so the calamity for him was him cutting himself with the knife

old marlin
#

I thought thats what happened the first time i read it

minor ore
#

Jojolion bookmark bois

willow pendant
#

you draw that ?

minor ore
#

Yupp

terse jungle
#

You deserve a treat for such a good drawing

minor ore
#

I need large fries

willow pendant
#

damn man that is really good

minor ore
#

Ay thanks man

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

thorn pier
#

Wait

#

is it

#

"What the fuck am I reading?"

#

or

#

"What the fuck. Am I reading?"

vocal mason
#

You reatard.

#

I am wood

minor ore
#

"Am i reading? What the fuck"

#

tooru eyes

vocal mason
#

is it just me or does the art for Chapter 96 look way crisper

minor ore
#

it does

#

this feels like sbr approaching its end

#

the quality jump in art

vocal mason
#

Also re-reading 95 and 96 to see if the art actually is crisper I noticed something

#

in 95 most of the time, Jobin is drawn in Shadow

minor ore
#

tooru really has HD eyes

cyan viper
#

br uh

kind owlBOT
#

@cyan viper, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

young meteor
#

Pog

white beacon
minor ore
#

idek but the swirls in his hair form the shape of his hat

#

even my friend thought it was a hat

white beacon
#

yeahh that's most probably just coincidence

minor ore
#

everything is pointing to him at this point

#

coincidences in jojo are rare

#

him being a red herring so late is gonna be eek

white beacon
#

i'd love that

#

not because i'm a firm believer of tooru =/= akefu, but mainly because i just want see all the tooru=akefu believers to whine and suffer as araki shatters their theories

heavy ledge
#

akefu looks like dead mans questions' yoshikage

#

phew

minor ore
#

so he is the dead kira?

#

imagine

#

omegayare thats like reaching to Mars

ebon rampart
#

Turns out akefu is kira from part 4 who travelled through universes

young meteor
#

Imagine if that was true.

white beacon
#

i had a thought one time that DMQ kira might be a kira from another universe that isn't og or sbr-verse, since like, i don't think there's any indication in dmq that it's the same morioh as part4, or at least i can't remember, but that was just a random dumb thought haha

frozen charm
#

Like the pucci universe???

white beacon
#

i don't think there is a pucci universe? since he died

upper knoll
#

SO universe, then reset with MiH, that's the Pucci universe, then Emporio killed him and we got Ireneverse

white beacon
#

oh, so first reset

#

dunno what happens with ghosts there, but that universe resets once more so no i don't mean pucci universe

ancient dagger
#

there are 4 total verse's that have existed right?

white beacon
#

there's the original, the first reset(not sure if there's a second one), ireneverse, and sbr-verse

#

but the first 3 is still basically just the original universe

#

because time is a linear concept

ancient dagger
#

technically 4 and only 2 have had entire parts take place in them

upper knoll
#

The first universe had parts 1-6
After reset there were parts 1-5 probably
in Irenverse there were parts 1-5
SBR verse had parts 7-8

ancient dagger
#

i mean ones we got to read fully which would be verse 1 and sbr verse but yeah 2nd verse and ireneverse had 1-5 parts (most likely)

indigo wind
#

I’m on chapter 27 as of now

#

When does it get good? I mean like it’s already good but

#

Does it get better?

vocal mason
#

yes

frozen charm
#

Oh yea I forgot people call it the ireneverse

lost slate
#

I don't know how relevant this is, but we may not know Tooru's full name

#

If I remember correctly, the kanji for his name is 'Dragon'

#

My Japanese isn't so good so I'm not sure if there is any hidden meaning there

tawny mist
#

I don't think his last name has ever been stated before actually

#

its kinda strange since characters usually tell you that in their introduction

grizzled pilot
#

oh, huh

#

i thought tooru was his last name

#

but i guess he's sort of on a first name basis with yasuho, huh

hoary sun
#

Rai used doggy style to make the guy stab himself so he could unravel completely and hide in his clothes

#

Big fuckin’ brain

old marlin
#

See i thought that too

#

But people keep saying it was a calamity that caused that

hoary sun
#

Lemme grab the panel

white beacon
#

Rai says it himself, "self-injury"

#

He only used doggy style to hide in the guy

old marlin
#

Rai would never say something that wasn't true

hoary sun
white beacon
#

His dialogue right there implies that he didn't stab the guy

ripe marlin
#

@hoary sun is him getting ready to enter the child murderer to sneak out

thorn pier
#

I'm pretty sure he used the 'karma' to get him to stab himself, yeah.

ripe marlin
#

Karma more like deez nuts lmfao dont hold that

white beacon
#

Rai was guilt trippin the dude real hard, coupled with just relentlessly talking about shit that the dude doesn't understand at all

#

Doubt karma has anything to do with it, cuz if it was karma, he'd have to have died from something outside of his own person

thorn pier
#

Maybe I should re-read it, but wasn't that why he showed him the picture of the HD?

minor ore
#

The thought of it being karma is more badass

#

You murder children and some invisible entity makes you kill yourself

#

Let us not forget before this chapter we had no idea if mamezuku was ever coming back again

#

There were false shepards, naysayers..... Those who said he cannot return......

thorn pier
#

The thought of it being karma is more badass
^

white beacon
#

But it doesn't quite fit what already happened to our main characters due to the power of the head doctor

ripe marlin
#

I mean they're all assholes that have been attacking and killing people previouslky....

white beacon
#

They all were dealt with external forces that weren't even caused by an invisible force. The things that josuke and mamezuku bumped into were already there, the rain and droplets pierced through josuke and mitsuba

#

All disasters that hindered them were what was in their environment

minor ore
#

even though Tooru and HD may not be connected, they have something in common

#

both of them have a shitty hairstyle

#

I can't remember exactly what HD's was

#

It looked like angelo

white beacon
#

He's kinda rockin that Wu Tomoki fade

minor ore
#

i have no idea what those things Wu and Satoru have at the sides of their heads are

#

they look like corn

mint gyro
#

Maybe rock patches or something?

white beacon
#

Maybe signs of age? Or maybe wu and akefu are related

old marlin
#

Pineapple hair

minor ore
#

that thing just looks so bad

old marlin
#

Didn't Damo and Poor tom kinda look like that

white beacon
#

Damo was bald

minor ore
#

i couldn't take Wu seriously thinking that his hair looked like corn

white beacon
#

With long locks of hair

#

Tom was like, semi bald

mint gyro
#

Balding?

white beacon
old marlin
#

Maggots eating his skull

white beacon
#

With an entire look like that, wouldn't be surprised

mint gyro
#

Lad looks like a baby that aged

#

Weirds me out

stark fossil
#

I wonder if Araki will go into the origins of the rock humans. And if I even want that

old marlin
#

At this point it's now or never

#

But I think the exact origins are supposed to be unexplained, they're just supposed to be accepted in this reality

white beacon
#

Like how we're just supposed to accept that the ghost alley in part4 just kinda exists there

hoary sun
#

There was already a precedence for ghosts since the dead stardust crusaders showed up after they died before going up to heaven or whatever

old marlin
#

That was just metaphorical

#

Their friends watched over them as DIO got burned

#

Souls tho

hoary sun
#

No, I mean when they actually died. Avdol iggy and jospeh

old marlin
#

That was the precedence for Ghosts

hoary sun
#

I think we were on the same page

#

Also if rai really like persuaded that guy into stabbing himself that is really fucking dark

vocal mason
#

Does anyone know what Awaking III Leaves is referencing

#

I'm making a stand Playlist

mint gyro
#

No one really knows.

hoary sun
#

I believe it’s a piece of classical music? Maybe. That’s what i saw

mint gyro
#

It's kind of a mystery, as far as I know.

vocal mason
#

Guess Mitsuba doesn't make it in

old marlin
#

Its like flute music

pliant sail
#

So the Head Doctor figure is the Stand itself

#

interesting that it

#

is a karma power thing

vocal mason
#

Supoosedly

#

The head doctor is still an actual person

#

But the stand also takes another firm of him I think

#

Seeing as his true form can't be seen

minor ore
#

Jeez that fucking poor tom outfit tho

#

I used to think he wore a shirt and shorts before it got colored

#

That shit is sowed onto his skin

#

And he still gets more pussy than any of us combined

nova apex
#

Araki's friends: How memey do you want Part 8 to be?
Araki: yes

simple kraken
#

too bad only like 12 people read part 8

#

there could be a fuck ton of good memes

ebon rampart
#

like kato’s ass

bright hedge
#

it was made in heaven

#

this was the ultimate truth

#

of the universe

old marlin
#

All JJL memes suck

minor ore
#

All jojo memes suck at this point

simple kraken
#

yeah

#

there's no anime airing rn so everything is really stale

mint gyro
#

Quickly, we have to find new meme formats for SO, SBR, and JJL.

minor ore
#

Ditch sbr

#

Just SO and JJL

pliant sail
#

are yall also gettin villain vibes from Yasuho’s ex? The deadpan face and super lax response in the most recent chapter and all

minor ore
#

He was already pretty villainous

#

Or rather suspicious

#

I think he really cares for yasuho

#

Genuinely

#

He's trying his best to get her back

bright hedge
#

he has to be a stand user at the very least

#

just look at the man lmao

ocean mirage
#

anyone that dress like that in jojo would have a stand

#

i mean have you seen his fuckin hair dude?

#

the guy is just waiting to bust out his stand

tawny mist
#

He's evil

#

didn't fully introduce himself

#

because he's waiting for when he explains his stand

pliant sail
#

I’m trying to recall

#

Has he interacted/met Gappy yet

ocean mirage
#

once i think

minor ore
#

Yeah he has

#

It was a pretty cold interaction

#

Gappy was passive aggressive

#

Mostly aggressive

stark fossil
#

There are too many panels of Gappy without the Gap

#

Pretty cursed

ebon rampart
#

what the hell does that mean bro

ocean mirage
#

it means he is just py

ebon rampart
#

WHAT

#

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

ocean mirage
#

his name is gappy

#

but he has no gap

#

so it's just py

ebon rampart
#

What the hell does he mean by gap

stark fossil
#

In his teeth bro

#

Sorry to sound elitist but Py is not a Joestar-like name

ocean mirage
#

no?

#

there's no py joestar?

ebon rampart
#

why is name even gappy

heavy ledge
#

Gap between teeth

ebon rampart
#

wait it’s that simple?

#

damn

#

imagine getting nicknamed because of a quirk from your body

pliant sail
#

Shorter than Josuke8

supple totem
#

or josephumi

atomic shoal
#

Or sailor boi

heavy ledge
#

or 4balls

#

wait that does happen

frozen charm
#

Didn't they only call him that because his name was said later in the series

#

Like a few chapters after

fluid vessel
#

ou: time manipulation
au: luck redistribution

old marlin
#

manipulation and manipulation...

frozen charm
#

Yo what if cream starter came back

#

Since it still exsisted after both hotpants deaths

old marlin
#

Id be just as bored as when it was a thing

frozen charm
#

And maybe Johnny kept it

#

Idk that's kinda a long stretch

old marlin
#

Not even a possibility tbh

frozen charm
#

Yea

#

It could be used to fix yasuhos arm tho

minor ore
#

Johhny used it to give himself a long schlong

frozen charm
#

Yeah

lost slate
#

Personal theory:

#

Cream Starter is the reason why Johnny's so thicc

lethal tundra
#

Can cream starter be used infinite times tho

azure canopy
#

pretty sure it can

white beacon
#

So long as there's flesh to use as its ammo

lost slate
#

coding son

#

now either of them needs to drink from a chalice

old marlin
minor ore
#

seems like you been having to do that a lot today @old marlin

#

folks just not reading or sum?

old marlin
#

Nop

#

Idk people think its okay to send them here because 1) noBoDy rEaDs joJOLioN 2) they think Jojokes doesn't allow spoilers or 3) don't care

minor ore
#

ngl...

#

kinda big facts

crude orchid
#

ok just stick by me for this

#

i believe that johnny's corpse is in the higashikata shrine.im not explaining why there are great explanations on the internet

#

the power of the holy corpse is the equivalent exchange of good luck-bad luck

#

i believe that that is a power of all corpses and when johnny's corpse was buried in the shrine he gave a physical version of that to the grounds

#

and the corpse has a stand

#

Tusk Act V

#

tusk act 4 + luck exchange

#

i know its crazy it just popped into my head out of nowhere

tame tide
#

do you mind linking an explanation

crude orchid
#

i dont remember a full video explanation sorry

#

oh but metis video is waht started my train of thought!

#

the second half as a small explanation

#

what you think

tame tide
#

im still watching the video

azure canopy
#

huh

#

now that I think about it

#

(and this might be 100% nonsensical)

tame tide
#

i still think it was just the jesus corpse that made the land get the special properties or whatever, but the johnny joestar thing isnt completely out there

azure canopy
#

maybe Johnny's death was the beggining of the misfortune stuff in some way?

#

I mean, he died by having a rock crush him for no apparent reason

#

oh wait shakedown road exists

#

nvm

tame tide
#

hopefully we see what the baby was about soon

azure canopy
#

indeed

minor ore
azure canopy
#

maybe when Johnny (the saint) died, the new devil arrived?

lost slate
#

Then the unnamed baby could be the Head Doctor

azure canopy
#

yeah

pulsar yoke
#

Oh my god

azure canopy
#

we get the death of a saint and the spawn of a devil

lost slate
#

Because if he's a rock human

azure canopy
#

@minor ore also, dope

pulsar yoke
#

If jewel baby is HD I'll eat my shorts

lost slate
#

Be prepared to eat your shorts

azure canopy
#

^

pulsar yoke
#

Oh no

old marlin
#

Jojotuber theories

#

Funny

azure canopy
#

I'm not basing myself on the video tho

#

I watched like 3 seconds of it lol

white beacon
#

The baby is about 110 from the time of his founding to the events of jojolion, wu tomoki, although looking young, is admittedly 80 years old

#

Akefu looks far older than wu by a large degree, and rock humans have a reported lifespan of 200

azure canopy
#

then the HD might just be a rock human

white beacon
#

I'm pretty sure that's a given already

azure canopy
#

I mean he has the same haircut as Wu

#

so yeah

white beacon
#

Just saying that the baby being akefu would make sense if wu looked older than he is shown

old marlin
#

The rock crushing Johnny is already a product of Ticket to Ride, Johnny taking his Son's disease was directing the misfortune to himself

#

It can be seen as a calamity out of context, but it's exactly that. Out of context

crude orchid
#

i-baby?

#

johnny's son?

white beacon
#

The rock crushing was Les Fuilles, since johnny touched the leaves in the area, which is what Les Fuilles of shakedown road does

azure canopy
#

no

#

baby that washed up on the beach

#

same day that Johnny died

crude orchid
#

uuuuhhhhh

white beacon
#

Johnny shooting his kid and the misfortune transferring to him was Love Train, Ticket To Ride would be things obstructing someone

old marlin
#

right

azure canopy
#

are you caught up with JJL?

crude orchid
#

i am

tame tide
azure canopy
#

then u forgot lol

#

yeah that

crude orchid
#

which chapter?

tame tide
#

22

crude orchid
#

cool thx

white beacon
#

Legend Of Johnny Joestar chapter

azure canopy
#

we gotta hope we get info on it

minor ore
#

That kid looks like tooru a bit

azure canopy
#

I stg if we actually get an Araki forgot moment with the baby I'm gonna loose my marbles

minor ore
#

He mentioned the wall eyes in the oujiro chapter.Im sure he's planned stuff out this part

tame tide
#

i dont see it yoshi

azure canopy
#

yeah most likely

#

and he does look slightly reminiscent

#

but I wouldn't say enough

#

but well, he doesn't really look like anybody else

minor ore
#

Lol he could be the doobie wah user with the cap and stuff

azure canopy
#

why would he be washed up on that day

simple kraken
#

What was the year in which he watshed up

azure canopy
#

he doesn't deserve that much importance

crude orchid
#

the babby looks like a gangster

simple kraken
#

poor tom

tame tide
#

1901

simple kraken
#

Oh ok

minor ore
#

Huge stretch:Yashuo being in the same page kinda makes me feel like the baby could be tooru

tame tide
#

i doubt tooru was even a concept back in early 20s chapters

azure canopy
#

I don't think that's it chief

crude orchid
#

aeonstar had a great theory on tooru being akefu's stand user

tame tide
#

jojotubers are stupid

minor ore
#

Tooru being HD's stand?

simple kraken
#

Tooru was definitely a concept

minor ore
#

Whether tooru was a concept or not is kinda hard for us to tell

azure canopy
#

and I'm pretty sure if who washed up on the beach is someone important right now, it'd be the HD

white beacon
#

Tooru is way too young to be the baby, if he follows the same age differential that wu himself is younger than the baby

azure canopy
#

it happened a 110 years ago

#

yeah

simple kraken
#

In a recent interview "Lucca maybe??) Araki said he knows how parts begin and how they end but the middle plays out how it plays out

#

So that would lead me to believe that tooru was definitely a thought from the begining

minor ore
#

Thats a good point

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !

crude orchid
#

we are definetly in one of the final arcs

simple kraken
#

Yup

crude orchid
#

third or second

#

to last

minor ore
#

I just hope yashuo's relationship with tooru was referenced earlier in the part

crude orchid
#

hes a great opposition to josuke

#

it puts focus on his and yasuho's relationship

#

and yasuho seems to still like him a bit

#

you know what

simple kraken
#

ntr

azure canopy
#

I have a raging hate for Tooru just bc of his "naughtyness" with Yasuho even when he knows Josuke exists

crude orchid
#

i think jobin and tooru are the final villians

minor ore
#

Its a three way

crude orchid
#

oh and cato

azure canopy
#

JJL just ends in an orgy

crude orchid
#

caato?

minor ore
#

I love how everything is converging

simple kraken
#

cumverging

crude orchid
#

araki did say jojolion has themes of eroticism

tame tide
#

kaato hasnt come up for years

minor ore
#

JJL orgy with yashuo,joubin,tooru and joshu

1 ball each

old marlin
#

Stop

azure canopy
#

y e s

kind owlBOT
#

@azure canopy, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

azure canopy
#

YES

crude orchid
#

ARAKI DID SAY

minor ore
#

YES !YES!

#

Lol we had bdsm early in the part

crude orchid
#

*JOJOLION HAS THEMES OF

minor ore
#

Anything can happen

white beacon
#

Kaato was mentioned 2 chapters ago wym val

simple kraken
#

detrimentally horny

crude orchid
#

EROTISCISM

tame tide
#

in a meaningful way atleast

minor ore
#

Caato feels too important to be forgotten

azure canopy
#

JJL = Araki Horny

crude orchid
#

yeah

tame tide
#

i doubt shed be a main villian

minor ore
#

Eroiko araki

crude orchid
#

she parralels gappy

minor ore
#

Erotic man

azure canopy
#

Homohiko Araki

simple kraken
#

araki definitely hasn't forgot any of the characters except maaaaybe the baby from the beach

minor ore
#

Araki has forgotten kyo

#

:(

simple kraken
#

No

old marlin
#

Jousuke

minor ore
#

She gone

crude orchid
#

they both want to be a higashikata

tame tide
#

flashback man lol!

old marlin
#

He hasnt showed up in 4 chapters

simple kraken
#

Something happened to kyo

minor ore
#

Flashback man could be yoshikage

simple kraken
#

she was erased from the picture

azure canopy
#

Flashback man could be early Damo

simple kraken
#

that was definitely intentional because he redrew the whole family photo and kyo is completely gone

minor ore
#

Maybe caato and kyo are planning to ambush araki so that he mentions them in the next chapter

white beacon
#

Kaato was just mentioned 2 chapters ago, she's fine

minor ore
#

Thank god

crude orchid
#

kyo is probably at like the kira's home

simple kraken
#

kyo is chilling in kaato's cards

minor ore
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I wonder what kira thought of kyo's HANDS

simple kraken
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Probably nothing

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He believed his own hands to be perfect

minor ore
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Ahhh

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What was the name of the user of " i am a rock"?

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Aishou?

white beacon
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Yotsuyu Yagiyama

simple kraken
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Yeah

minor ore
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Aishou was doobie wah

white beacon
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Aishou Dainenjiyama is Doobie Wah

minor ore
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I remembered

simple kraken
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What a long name

white beacon
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Aphex Brothers are Schott Keys No.1 and 2

minor ore
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I wish yotsuyu was better written as a villain

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His motivation was weak

simple kraken
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What was his motivation

minor ore
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He probably wanted the house and wealth of the Higashikatas

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I need to re read that chapter

old marlin
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How long has Jojolion been

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Like calendar wise

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Few months?