#jojolion
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Stop
kaato is gone
STOP
That would somehow be lamer than the actual world Diego arc
kaato come back with king cirmson
Perhaps Soft & Wet Crimson shall steal time with Kyo to defeat main villain caato and head doctor tsurugi tooru?
what do you mean lamer than world diego arc
are u implying that world diego
was lame
Is lame
??????
Is
Josuke awakens king cringeson
wait guys
dude i fell out of chair when i saw the world diego
Dude, they brought up some fucking character out of nowhere, with a strong ass stand, to have a fight after the main battle
We've known thatfor a while
And it was just "ok"
kaato is diego hes gonna take that wig off and be like "ahahaha..... "the world"......... time has stopped."
wdym the van the branch was stolen from
Stop
the branch never left the higashiakta estate
We've known Tooru was the one driving the Van for a long time now
oh you know what i eman
mean
But kaato is more likely to be a valentine
She has D4C card edition
Kaato
kaato hasnt done shit tho
It’s has the rules of D4C
You DONT KNOW THE RULES
Cardstock Enigma
Yeah, I was always a bit like "Huh?" we they started to say that the Head Doctor and Wu were the ones in the ambulance. Makes waaay more sense for it to be Tooru.
wait holy shit
@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !
what if she is a valentine
God
too ugly
@minor ore so Tooru
her stand makes perfect sense
She sure has the hair for it
i still think tooru might be kaatos kid somehow
idk
And the magician theme
that doesnt mkae much sense
where is kyo right now tho?
No she has the rolls in her hair the magician design and a pocket dimension stand
Lmao
gone bro
Deleted
YOO Tooru's eye looks exactly like the HD's in one panel
In kaatos cards
tbf that guy probably wasnt right in the head to begin with and he's triggered by the smallest shit
Egg wait
sorry if this is known and discussed
she went on the hawaii trip w/o the higashikatas
Has to go in #manga-jojokes
but I'm just reading this shit
He had dead eyes
oof
Like he snapped
i think its just a manga effect to make him seem suspicious
He was enjoying his kfc
or let it out to the readers that he is
Or clowdolands
or yeah he mad cause Yasuho ruined his kfc time
borgars
I would be too
Tooru is so hot
still thinking about the may 5th thing
Arakis art said
cant be a volume release
prob isnt an event either
maybe theyre releasing more merch or some shit
Prolly
i think tooru wants to be a rich dude
Tooru wants to be known
or that
And discover smth
he did talk about that
tonio 2
He has the same motive as HD
im gonna order the new volume rn off of amazon japan
does kyo legit not care that her mom is gonna die?
from the jojowiki
well. We know everyone dies in the higashkata estate
so thats true
or mayby shes just chillin on the floor
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do i buy it
hmm
i love amazon jp, they deliver fast af to the usa
yes, japan like i said has zero issues with carona compared to most countries rn @undone zodiac
#manga-jojokes please
wouldnt it be a spoiler
Spoilers are allowed in there
Tooru angrily drives his van
I wouldn't say no issues
It totally was
He was even thinking about approaching his "comrades" when he was running to the ambulance
then again why would they be attacking him
when everyone thought he had the branch
they didnt need him anymore
wow rude
@supple totem, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
Yeah, I doubt they gave enough of a shit about him to just turn off the stand for a second
man that chapter was w i l d
It really was
so now we know the HD is a stand?????
If you interpret it that way yeah
damn
it's kinda weird to have an old man as a stand, but I believe it
maybe a shape shifting stand
maybe that's not the actual stand but the ability
ill say it again the hd thats at the higa house and the one rai sees is a stand the one at the confernece hall isnt
ill stick with that
yeah
a projection
damn yeah so Tom was killed by this Stand probably
also idk if u saw it before @azure canopy but we figured that everyone that can see the "stand" hd has also seen tooru in person
oooh
hm
but what about the conference tho
the speehc
whatever you wanna call it
wait so is the thought that the HD is the stand or that the stand is making the HD
that can be the "real" akefu
Stand Making HD
what about a F.F type thing where the stand is also the user
@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !
ooooh so there could be the HD, and HD's stand shape shifting into himself
that's what you mean
along those lines atleast
yes
alright gotcha
i think the hd at the conference is an actual person
~~either human or ~~rock human
i mean kinda like FF
I was gonna say that I thought that the HD as a whole is a stand, like a stand shape shifting into the "black coat old man"
but now that I think about it
would have to be a visible stand
he's a rock human for sure indeed
so I don't think a stand would shape shift into a rock human
and yeah
your theory seems very plausible
tho a bit weird at sight
fair enough
would have to scroll up a lot
well you're keeping it alive so I'm giving you credit lol
hehe
but well, we don't know shit so we'll have to wait
we don't know enough shit to be more clear
the buildup for all of this is insane
imagine if the overall motivations for wanting the fruit is just for a collection
Yeah
the last few panels were pretty spooky
lowkey excepting the HD's stand or if he is the stand itself to just be some really weird convoluted bullshit that you need a bunch of PHD's to understand
wouldnt be suprised
imma give mad cred to araki if he manages to make something more convoluted than who shot johnny jjoestar
we're all gonna die if he manages to
Except for the fact that there's nothing that's actually confusing so far
It's just we don't have enough info
agree
then again u couldve said that for who shot johnny too
but that didnt get better after the "explanation"
theres things like who shot johnny joestar where it makes sense but its convoluted but imagine if he does something that would only make sense if the law of physics were different or something 
this part IS supposed to be a mystery story so
araki is just gonna give us the ultimate mindfuck i stg
he's been planning it since phantom blood
the evangelion of jojo
evangelion type confusing into one arc
dunno making it super hard to grasp once its over kinda makes it a bad myster ystory imo
yeah
imagine he just goes on hiatus before the finale
imagine if it makes sense
I don't think that'll be the case
@ancient dagger are you african American
but it's super hard to understand
me neither
what a question lmao
theres a reason its called jojoLION so beware(?)
no @honest blaze
Well, assuming the stand doesn't become inconsistent (which it could tbf tbh) Then everything should make sense eventually. Well, not "sense" but we should at least be able follow the story from start to finish and things will add up.
now that's an interesting stand cry
Its a good stand cry
i can’t wait to start part 8
bruh what u doin here
bro
we are talking heavy spoilers lmao
if any of you know the whole thing with haki from one piece where when it was introduced so much stuff that happened earlier made sense and made you wonder "is that also haki" i kinda feel like a lot of things that have happened will be like that when we get a explanation of the HD stand
Yes
Big stuff
check pins
@thorn pier you were correct on your prediction
goofy four ball adventure has NO rights being this good
yes @ancient dagger
had to yell about it one more time to help get it out of my system. later guys
i think about jjl every second of my life
"yes"
shanye i dont believe you
did the stand actually get a name?
n
no
o
We've straight up been told for the last couple of chapters that the Head Doctor doesn't haven't a form, that it doesn't make sense that he can keep getting around so quickly, that Tooru just "showed up" as soon as they started chasing the head doctor. We've pretty much been told he's Tooru's stand for the last 10 chapters, we just needed to confirmation. I'm gonna say this, I'm actually not expecting any more twists or turns at this point, now that we're 14 chapters deep into this arc. Just a matter of seeing how this all wraps up now.
what's the Jojolion New Chapters role that some of you have?
perhaps its endless calamity
ping carco and ask them for it
ye
but what is it for
yes
for people up to date with JJL?
Yeah
ahhhh, ping or PM?
it is the jjl role
ping
ping
just here?
ye
alrighty
Anyway, uhhh, good chapter. Yeah. JoJolion baby
So basically the first actual effect of the head doctor was poor tom
This stuff has been building up for 20 chapters
the first of the unnamed stand that might be the hd's or toorus yes
@rigid fern could I get the Jojolion New Chapters role please?
This can actually be compared to the D4C arc at this point
cant wait for anime in 10 years
in length, at least
thank you very much
who knows

Can I have too
@lean sinew, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 6 !
Take a guess
No? Ok then
You have it now
turns out we're only half the way there
I mean if yall are at D4C
Seems like Tooru is being set up as the hidden villain
josuke wakes up from his dream
man i hope it ends reasonably soon so we dont have to lose hope for p9
Imagine it ends within the next year
If there is a final showdown i think it’s gonna be at the hospital
👀 I would love to be able to read part 8
Seems like everyone is one way or another heading to the hospital
I think it could end next year
quit sleeping on it carco
Araki already he'll do a part 9 if he can
but I'm aiming for 2022
Im not sleeping on it
Already said*
Im waiting for it to finish
he never said he'll do a part 9
Why don’t you guys just read
@deep jasper, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 9 !
He has
just that if it does happen it might be in italy
if he really has i would appreciate sauce
Ive read and watched all of jojo multiple times
THe only reason im not reading 8 is because I want it to finish
Why not just read part 8 I meant
I wonder what Pt 9 will cover
I got it on a article Comic Books. Com recommend
the way rai got out of the cell was pretty awesome
@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 2 !
That's the source
future JoJo
I think
what im saying with losing hope is that the longer jjl keeps running the shorter p9 would probably be, since i dont think araki would want to work fulltime well into his 70s
Cause I want it to finish before I read it lul
Night be something else
good
cyberpunk JoJo
Might
yes his prison escape was so cool
Part 9?
More like Part 8 2
we go back to the 1800s
we were all like "uhh, it might end by next year i think" three years ago and we will be three years from now
I really do hope its just part 2 again
it aint happening
Like he just redraws part 2
id love to see a anime or manga with stuff similar to the cell escape
With the context of part 8
Lmao ikr cx
another ww2 era part would be cool
Redrawn Part 3 with story Redux will be great
and i love every minute of it
We're 14 chapters deep into what is basically the D4C arc of this part
the last part will probably add some stuff he's really wanted to do
When I joined this fandom 3-4 years ago everyone said "Yeah yeah just wait itll be like 2-3 years before its done"
i mean at least araki doesnt make bs statements like oda does with one piece regarding the remaining runtime
i think doing something set within no just a war era but in the war itself would be pretty cool
And now everytime I ask everyones like "oh yeah itll be done in like 2-3 years"
Unless there's another 25 chapter arc after this one, this part isn't lasting any more than 2 years, tops
I doubt we'll go back in time
space war part 9
oda's statements are always wack
I dunno why people think it’s ending in x amount of time
So like this is possibly the finale arc?
@wild wave 
war doesnt mena back in time
Maybe
scifi?
If its that long I mean
Like it’s been running since 2011
this is a very long and very climatic arc
probably
Another arc or two
Either the last or the penultimate arc
Interesting
@minor ore 
and it feels like we're getting closer and closer to its resolution
So it could be nearing its end
we're close to the ||harvest of new rokakaka||
scifi jojo 👀
but we're not quite there yet
With an epilogue arc
araki has done a scifi story in the past so perhaps
We're basically at the equivalent of the train arc in part 7, just before Funny starts using the corpse
yea
yup
araki
Epilogue
what would that be
its say hi to virginia i think
Part 9 will see everyone getting stands. "When everyone is a stand user, no one is"
Boah and other things alike like the Detective One
chariot requiem 2
I think the HD is more of a Who shot Johnny kind of arc
iirc he said he'd never set a jojo part in the future again
what
i don't think he said that
Iirc?
if i
I can try to find it but its iirc for right now
it was more something like he wasn't interested in setting jojo in the far future
remember corretly
So I gotta brb but would yall be surprised if it ended in 2020
basically ruling out sci fi for the most part kinda
how
I believe
what if it's just another reset
stone ocean josuke
Opinions now
I've never thought about putting jojo in the future or space or whatever
I mean JJL's been running long enough, we could have a feasible gap between parts without skipping around time
well there might be another jojo that we don't know about
JoJo's should always have a mundane setting
2020 ending uhhhhhhhhhhh i guess it could happen
i'd prefer it goes another year or so
2020 ending
i mean that would break the trilogy thing @minor ore
I scoff at the very idea
@tame tide oh yeah, I guess that was farther but not too far into the future
I'm gonna say 2021, for real
Late or early
you'd have to cram a lot in to end by december
@undone zodiac That's more fan made
Like, mid to late
Ok ok
There are 7 or 8 more chapters this year
it was like 10 years right
I can wait that long
it would, but it could also be a like conclusion to the series as a whole
I think so
fucck
My money is on 2022
I'd genuienly be surprised if it went further than that, considering were we are
LLC usually takes a month or two off a year too
Part 6 ended The original universe maybe Part 8 will if not maybe "9"
Lmao
it has
You know maybe it’s just me but I wouldn’t mind if JoJo ended with part 8
i guess a 2020s jojo part would be cool but the setting would probably be similar to morioh
This is why I am not reading along
imma say early 2022 but dont quote me on that
id say late 2022 or early 2023
yea me either
it hasn't been so bad tbh
It would be for me
seems like poor tom got shot just yesterday........
Keeping up is fun
👋
Too much into the future to me feels like it would take away the cool factor of stands with the scifi tech
imagine a part set in the medieval ages
Yeah these last 20-25 chapters have happened at a really fast pace
araki comes up with some crazy shit
yoooo @ancient dagger then we could get the zeppelis and the spin back too
holy shit
funny word
and set it in italy again
fuck italy
So part 7 with extra steps
||this new chapter was literally a horror story||
last part won't involve stands [that's my prediction]
Doubt it
we've been doing stands for over 30 years
it def will
He's made too much in stands to throw it away
imagine he brings spin back or hamon for the last part
val what ?
Stands are way too cool
it's a joke
what do u mean what
Truly think about how unique stands are compared to other Anime sets
It's too good of an idea
forgot when part three came out
So do we think the HD is the main villain now or no
ik
No
part 3 was 87 right?
idk
88 I believe
1989
It’s between whoever the HD is and Jobin
i think devil fruits are pretty unique too and so is nen
still over 30 years
Close
nen is probably the best power system in most peoples opinions
The best powersystems are non linear ones
I feel the amount of stand users will become less and less
Hamon wouldn't really exist because vampires aren't exactly established yet
when you wait a month for the story to progress 6 minutes
Devil fruits and quirks are if stand abilities were integrated into the persons body
linear ones like quirks are cool and all and there are cool powers but they are super basic
isnt there a ball head dude
same with early stands
Isn’t that Norisuke?
i meant in mha
Quirks are basically 'look this guy has fire! and this dude can run fast!'
most people seem to say stands,nen and evil fruits are the best systems
Jojo's has an advantage over hxh here though
nothing would change if mha was just "people have powers" with no explantion
It actually ends
ppl are saying so much good things about hunterxhunter but im taking the carco way with it and will only read it once its finished 
hxh didnt get single chapter last year bruh
I think Stands are my favorite power system
hxh's last released chapter was in 2018
Anyone of them is super creative and a good amount of them are cool
its a jojo server of course stands are your fav
i bought a shonen jump that year and was extremely lucky to see a hxh chapter
lol
the one i bought was probably one of the last chapters
I mean to me a punchy ghost seems way cooler than actually using powers
alchemy from fma is pretty cool but its not very widespread in its uses compared to a lot of others
yeah punchy spirt man is alot cooler then run fast and shoot fire and ice
how close is hxh to ending
to be fair mha has some really creative ones
but turn into jacket is way cooler than all of that
hxh wont end for ages
great
When ever Togashi remembers he writes hxh
they have a entire continent to explore in the story still
isnt hxh anime kinda shit
this fucking pose lol
hxh 2011 is awesome
2011 is praised
damn
stands have a lot of potential for creativity, unlike other powers
he looks like he boutta shit on the food
older one is still called pretty good but nowhere near as much as new one, for one it doesnt have like 2 of the arcs that are often called the best 2
f for leorios seiyuu
i started reading berserk recently and its pretty fire
@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !
they don't have chimeras ant?
im scared that im gonna like berserk too much and then run out of chapters
the first hxh has either 50 or 60 eps
oh yeah i think imma start berserk too now that im caught up with jjl
how long are the volumes
no idea
with jojo ive mostly read a volume a day
i just read whenever, unlike anime i dont set a expectation on how much a day
fair with jjl i just wanted to catch up rather fast since i knew it was super spicy atm
lord forgive me but i did skim some of jojolion when catching up
thank allah for that one
jjba spoilers and one piece spoilers are like the only ones i ever care about
the only thing i ever got spoiled in op is the one death everyone gets spoiled about
I read all jjl but at speedrun speed
with jojo i got spoiled so much for p5 p6 and p7
only series that had already finished that i cared for spoilers was gintama cause i wanted to watch it with no idea
oh i need to watch that
I read part 6 and I skipped a few sections I must admit
gintama is really good, comedy is either best comedy in anime or worst comedy in anime no inbetween
everythings important cmon
lmao
aint gonna lie part 6 was the enjoyable to read for me
the guy that looks like secco in part 6
ah
and fucks with gravity
ok
jumpin jack flash
yeah
cant remember the users name
i mean u can talk all parts here
fair enough
u can talk all parts up to the channel youre in
remember how Manhattan transfer is arguably the worst stand
I already forgot everything about Manhattan transfer except drone and sniper rifle
survivor is like a party trick
using survivor at a party is a bad idea tho
manhattan transfer just detects air movements basically
only reason it was good was the user was a trained sniper
and a really really good one at that
if your a normal person its basically useless
well thats the point of stands
manhattan transfer is a cheap sex pistols
a lot of stands are useless if they had other users
and others would be op af with other users
lookin at the hand here
the hand was still pretty god even with a brainlet user
the emperor in the hands of Mista
pretty sure hes actually good
I think it was mentioned he was
then again you can control the emperror bullets too
so w/e
emperror was op too
sex pistols is basically just nerfed emperror
yep
i cant remember if Manhattan transfer user was able to visualise the stuff from the air currents because its the stand or hes can do it, if the stand does it then its not that bad tbh but if he does it then i say its worse the survivor
sex pistols have personality doe
that doesnt help tho lol
so if it was a diff user they couldnt visualise it
yep
well them having a personality is a lot cooler
yes
you wouldnt ever be lonely
I guess Jonghalli could interpret his stands signals and get wallhacks
lmao
hey ya was so fun
yeah if jonghalli seeing it in his head is him i say its the worst stand but if its the stand doing it then its not as bad
hey ya having a personality was kinda its ability in my mind
kinda
pretty sure his stand gives him the info
if you know what i mean
and he can visualize the enviroment
probably using his stand too
like a HUD type of thing
yeah its not suited for direct confrontation at all,
neither are all the automatic stands tho
@undone zodiac, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 11 !
bug eaten vs jonghalli A when
if the user was just a normal person then the best it can do it just help him look around
jobin's beatles vs manhattan transfer pls
yeah if he wasnt then i assume you could just use to perv on people asusming you can see that much detail
@ancient dagger, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !
Who was that guy that was so sure that the head doctor was a completely different person unrelated to anyone else?
like i said being a trained sniper is the reason he got the stand in the first place
i dont remember it saying that but im gonna take your word for it as its been 2 years since i read part 6
It was the guy who called me dumb for liking the tooru/head doctor theory
hes pretty much hjsut ndoul 2.0 tbh
Where is that man right now? I bet he feels dumb
N. doul is reall cool no cap
we don't know poprocks
ndoul is awesome
yeah Manhattan transfer is just N'doul with bullets
He was in this chat a month ago
I mean they're esentially both blind
but they use their stands to visualize the enemy
well he feels them
he feels them because hes just so sensitive to vibrations and then geb can attack them
if he wasnt blind it wouldn't be anywhere near as good long-range
i got hounded for asking to move strictly part 6 talk to the part 6 channel
getting hounded is cringe
well yeah its a remote controlled stand
vibration sensing makes geb better in genereal not just long range cause he could sense someone hiding behind something
geb and aqua necklae are both really good imo
aqua necklace is just better than geb tho
its also remote controlled
and can do more stuff
Can’t wait to see what speed king is actually capable of in the next chapter
so ndoul with aqua necklace would jsut straight up be better than ndoul with geb
geb has more power then aqua necklace, like it got shown ripping a dudes head into a tiny ass water can
ye but aqua necklace doesnt need that
it can just shred your insides
and it can turn into steam
and shapeshift to an extend
(turning into booze)
good point
it can just wait for you to drink something
both really good but yeah aqua is a lot more versatile
aqua necklace's range isn't nearly as good
do we know that
though still rather long for a stand
or is it just because angelo cant sense stuff 4km away
ah remember angelo rock
they both have an a in range
its small enough that he had to camp out the higashikata residence to wait for his opportunity
stats dont matter
i still feel like geb is more physically strong
stats are very rarely accurate
true
oof
geb power is d
aqua is c
kekw
but yeah i also feel like geb is more powerful
its probably like 20-40m
we really cant know tbh
also could geb of taken a form like aqua necklace be N. doul chose to have it as just a water hand?
id assume so honestly
it can cram itself into a water bottle, for what it's worth
also ged is made of water and necklace can hide in water so they could become one maybe?
geb is a devil fruit confirmed
well its been fun but its 5am for me now so im heading off
its nearly 1 pm for me and i havent slept since 7 am the previous day
HOLY SHIT
NEW CHAPTER HYPE
HOLY FUCK
WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE HD IS THAT
the hd that whenever they see him
bad shit happens
is part of the stand
and that the actual user is the dude that we saw giving out the presentation about the locacaca
I see you paid attention to the plant guy exposition
Ah, so yasuho was talking about using the locacaca on herself
She and josuke will be rock couples 😍 😍 😍
What would be exchanged though?
Her right eye, so pair with josuke's left
Meh
yasuho's eye for josuke's spare nuts
Jousuke exchanges his 2 balls for Yasuho's life
He becomes a real boy in the process...
same thought
Does that mean yasuho would have balls for eyes?
Real boy? Damnnn pinocchio???
yasuho's eyes produce sperm
Yasuho going to literally impregnate people by looking at them
Paisley Park + This = Baby Face
@grizzled pilot It could be us if you just admitted im always right
Wait...pasley park is a phone, so would it evolve to a notebook
body bag
I'm soft and wet, just holding a flag behind my couple friends
Josuke doenst seem to be enjoying this
He seems to enjoy it too much
Annoying a guy to death
C h o n k
Not even the jailhouse lock lady had such juice
Everybody ignored Norisuke's Body Bag cake
Damn hato you be clappin while carryin your daddy's almost dead body
Not as phat as John Gali A tbh
Johngalli claps everytime he shoots because of the recoil
@azure canopy very late warn but dont use slurs
that would have been useful a while ago lol, but yeah I gotchu, sorry
norisuke is just "knocked out" but not dead thank god
@delicate cliff, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 5 !
can't stop thinking about the theory that Tooru could be caato in a disguise
i could see this
unlikely but i could see it
if it's not the real head doctor of the university hospital
and it's not yasuho's real ex
then i suppose it's possible that kaato might have been a phony
bro the dude that whenever they try to look at him bad shit happens is part of the stand
the actual user is the dude that we saw presenting the locacaca 6251
the last time we saw her was over 30 chapters ago but what if she was still there but we just havent realise it yet
The stand gets activated by seeing his back
maybe there was no actual person and the public was looking at nothing
he is real
nah
the dude who was presenting the locacaca 6251 is real
no sir
tooru is the head doctor, the stand is making illusions
no
Have you changed your mind on this or...
yes
So the stand can talk?
oh lol that's still a dumbass theory
Is it though 
but thats what its looking like
the HD that we saw is an illusion yes but it's not created by tooru
then who is it created by
it's created by the guy that was presenting the locacaca 6251
which is the "head doctor" lmfao
i'm not sure who the user really is
yep
My moneys on Tooru
i think the 6251 hypeman is unlikely
so the head doctor is an illusion, tooru is using his stand
I’ll wait a month to be proven right
tooru seems like the most likely candidate. but i'm not sure, either
tooru is sus but i doubt he's the user
The head doctor is inspired by this Painting called ''Golconde'' Some interpretations say that the piece is about how images can lie. so yeah the HD is not real
i think tooru is another phony
Dont you just love it when you give an opinion or a theory and you just get told no and then their reasoning is they dont like it
Tooru is mostly a red herring
And then expect to be respected
???
there is a real, 89 year old head doctor of TG university hospital. but he's not the guy chasing the gang around morioh
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there is a real, 89 year old head doctor of TG university hospital. but he's not the guy chasing the gang around morioh
This
he might be the 6251 hypeman
Poggers
Id say that’s likely
the real HD is the user of the stand
no
Satoru is real, the Head Doctor isnt
Have you even read the new chapter bro???
Mfers swear the Head Doctor isnt a person after one chapter
bruh
man i legit just said that there are 2 different HDs
one is an illusion
and the other is real
Hi Lucas
they're all illusions
Hey hey
Youre an illusion
there is a real tooru who dated yasuho, too. but i don't think he's the guy chillin with josuke and yasuho now
You a movie
Oh its andy thats why
Sometimes it feels that way 
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@grizzled pilot False Memory!
then how did the public see the HD
i think he's a rock human who has somehow disguised as tooru
Did they though
@old marlin maybe!
Because theres an illusions being put on the public
Mysteries
I mean shouldnt the public have died looking at him
just fucking read he isnt real lmao
There is a user somewhere
and then they show yasuho dying and tooru's dead eyes lol
that user is the burger eating man
i mean yeah theres a user but its still a stand
I’m gonna make an infographic with my theory lol
HD being Tooru's stand has always been a theory i dont fully brush off ill be honest
lets wait an other month and see then
How does hd stand work exactly?
I dont think hes a person
it just works
I've brushed that theory off ever since that extra volume page showing HD and the wiry-robot stand. Also HD did a presentation on the locacaca so there's at least 1 public image of him
its still a mystery
I think he is a stand
I get the chasing stuff
Whenever you look at his back, things that you bump into do so much more damage
Oh
Then
Calamities attack you if you think about going after him after seeing his back
not only when you look at his back , when you think about pursuing him too
Rai mentions that the stand ability is to create an image of HD and anyone who sees that image will succumb to karmic whatever he said
I think he's a stand energy like the milagro man
Its just a Karma stand
What about it being visible through the phone?
Whats up with that?
That aint how stands work
I'm using this from now on
if he is a stand then that make sense that he was invisible for the other dude
Rai pictures the image of HD, so it's not exactly a personbyperson illusion
And it's not the stand itself, it's an illusion made by the stand
ima just wait on doopo he seems to be the only one good with this
Also stands can take forms
i think the stand can turn himself as the head doctor
I mean shouldnt the public have died looking at him
@noble haven they didnt see the back
Only his front
I guess the hd stand arc is the d4c of jojolion but way less confusing
d4c was pretty easy to understand
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But im sticking with HD is just an illusion created by tooru
same
What's confusing about being under karmic suppression whenever you catch sight of an illusionary image of the stand user?
Its everything behind it not the power
all of the confusion will be cleared after the arc is done
i thought that was a given
the d4c arc was still confusing even after ending
Until then, confusion ensues
When a jjl chapter comes out it truly is everyone for theirself
Just hope it doesnt pull a d4c and changes the ability entirely after the arc
I'm still against tooru=hd theories, hd's been in on the organization for a long time, that's why he's the head of it, and holly mentions even meeting him when they started to get into the inner workings of the hospital. I doubt it's tooru since I'm pretty sure he's still a student and just started working part time
Well, its jojo were talking about here, anything could happen
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Even so, tooru can still be creating the image of a head doctor
that's still not an excuse to make up shit like that
Its not made up
