jojolion

[minor ore]

[young meteor]

Jesus Christ this debate is still going lol

[golden elk]

yeah but it's sometimes still applicable to reference previous parts

[azure canopy]

things that might be similar

[honest blaze]

You dont have to know about old kira to know about new kira

[golden elk]

yeah because hand fetish

[honest blaze]

I get that phoenix but they were having a whole 5 and 6 discussion

[golden elk]

that's important to discuss

[azure canopy]

the discussion was

who was taller

[minor ore]

that’s fine

[azure canopy]

literally that

[minor ore]

they can completely discuss that if they want to

[honest blaze]

It says in part 8 that he has a hand fetish so you don't gotta know about kira 4

[azure canopy]

and we moved to part 5 and 6 for like 3 seconds

to talk about heights

[honest blaze]

Yes is it that hard to tap a screen

When you type more than 100 characters every 3 minutes

[tame tide]

kira8 doesnt have a hand fetish

[azure canopy]

switch to a channel where other people might have another conversation?

[honest blaze]

Yes

[azure canopy]

where you could just stay in this one

[golden elk]

maybe he does, it's just he likes hands, not necessarily a fetish

[azure canopy]

knowing that most people WILL have read previous parts

[honest blaze]

Theres nothing against multiple convos in a single chat

[tame tide]

ig

[ocean mirage]

he like his own hand

[minor ore]

can y’all just drop this please

[azure canopy]

yeah

I'm getting tired

[honest blaze]

I guess

[ocean mirage]

i wonder how josuke's balls are arranged

[golden elk]

i assume it's like two rows

[honest blaze]

Yeah its probably just 2 rows

[golden elk]

not like four in one row

[honest blaze]

Long sack

[ocean mirage]

what if it's 4 in one row

[golden elk]

because it was illustrated in one of the manga panels as a square of four balls

[tame tide]

i think its 2 seperate sacks

[honest blaze]

The real question is

[golden elk]

each with two testicles

[honest blaze]

Which balls hang lower

[golden elk]

kiras

[honest blaze]

It cant be a perfecr swuare

[golden elk]

100%

[honest blaze]

Square*

[golden elk]

eh as close as it could get

[honest blaze]

Yeah id assume kiras

[tame tide]

but who has the biggest balls

[golden elk]

Kira again

[honest blaze]

So is josefumi alt universe jotaro?

[young meteor]

How'd you know?

[golden elk]

no Kira is alt jotaro

[minor ore]

Josefumi looks more like Josuke

[young meteor]

Josefumi is alt uni Josuke

[minor ore]

Part 4 Josuke

[golden elk]

yeah

[kind owl]

@golden elk, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

[ocean mirage]

josuke's hat

[honest blaze]

Yeah i was assuming part 4 josuke

[tame tide]

josefumi is more than 1 "au"

[ocean mirage]

why did it change

[golden elk]

there's like a family tree in the beginning

[ocean mirage]

only kira had a hat when they fused

[tame tide]

a lot of part 8 au charas are like that

[honest blaze]

I wish we coulda seen alt universe joseph

[minor ore]

True

[golden elk]

that basically says Holly and yoshiteru got married

so yeah kira is jotaro

I don't think there is an alt joseph

[tame tide]

josefumi is jotaro too

[honest blaze]

Idk about you guys but i wanted a spin user that could see stands like gyro in part 8

[golden elk]

if so it's Johnny's kid

[tame tide]

there is a joseph on the tree

[golden elk]

oh then I guess there was one

[young meteor]

And Suzi Q, Lisa Lisa

[golden elk]

yeah but like all wack

I'll find the tree hold on

[ocean mirage]

in color pls 😄

[golden elk]

of course

that's the important side

we're ignoring the higashikata side

[honest blaze]

Sooo

Kira is jotaro?

[tame tide]

yes

[golden elk]

yeah

[honest blaze]

I see

[tame tide]

so is kyo and josefumi

[young meteor]

Kyo is Jotaro too

[minor ore]

Female Jotaro mm

[ocean mirage]

btw, we haven't seen kyo

[kind owl]

@ocean mirage, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 7 !

[ocean mirage]

in a while

[golden elk]

who's kyo

oh wait nvm

[honest blaze]

Nijimura

[golden elk]

yeah I remember now

[honest blaze]

i just call her female okuyasu

[kind owl]

@honest blaze, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 8 !

[golden elk]

whatever happened to the love deluxe alt girl

or love love deluxe

whatever her stand was

[tame tide]

i hope we see karera again

i liked her a lot

[ocean mirage]

she has a personality

[golden elk]

she seemed like she'd recurr like yukako

[minor ore]

I always thought of her as this universe's Yukako

[golden elk]

she is

[ocean mirage]

also the way she's introduced is very cool

[golden elk]

her stand is literally love love deluxe

[young meteor]

But Karera isn't a yandere

[minor ore]

Yeah

[golden elk]

not a confirmed yandere at least

[tame tide]

shes only yukako in stand

[young meteor]

Oh well

[golden elk]

she's also alt universe they can't be identical

[tame tide]

this makes me think we'll see her again

im not sure when she could come back though

[golden elk]

yeah I definitely think she'll be back

[honest blaze]

I think jjl is in its final act

[golden elk]

well it's getting there

[honest blaze]

So i don't think shes coming back

[golden elk]

I believe

[tame tide]

people have been saying "jjl is in its final act" for years andy

[golden elk]

we still have rougly 30-40 chapters

based on the other parts

that's going long too

[honest blaze]

Nah id say we got like 15

15-20

[golden elk]

SC was like 160 chapters ish

[tame tide]

15 is not enough to wrap everything up imo

[minor ore]

I agree

[golden elk]

so 30-40 would put it near there

[tame tide]

SC is shonen chapters so you cant really compare it w/ jjl

[golden elk]

your right

[honest blaze]

Sc was 160 ish but it was also 20 pages a chapter

[golden elk]

so it's different

yeah

I still think it'll be at least 20 more

[honest blaze]

Jojolion is very close to being the longest part

[golden elk]

yeah it probably will be

[tame tide]

it probably will be

[honest blaze]

Like 300 pages before tying with sbr

[golden elk]

well we're gonna get more than that

[minor ore]

The next few chapters are probably gonna be really long

[golden elk]

that's like how many chapters

[honest blaze]

Yeah obv

next chap is the 19th right?

[tame tide]

with avg 40 pages per chapter itll surpass sbr in like 10

[minor ore]

April 17

[tame tide]

in america or japan

[honest blaze]

America

[golden elk]

well unless we can read japanese

America

[heavy ledge]

can someone explain to me why josefumi and kira went on a lovelike sailing date to see some flying fish? because i totally missed the point of the flying fish there

[simple kraken]

Is this panel a reference to Dio walking up the wall

kira is a man of the sea

[heavy ledge]

yes but damo mentioned the flying fish too

and kira said something about the fishes but it didnt make sense

[golden elk]

they talked about fish

there wasn't much else

unless I missed a hidden meaning

there was like some important plot but pfft

[tame tide]

the flying fish is what led kira to finding out abt rock humans

[golden elk]

of course

makes sense

[heavy ledge]

yeah i remembered

he didnt say why they went sailing he just pointed out the flying fish

it started with the flying fish and finished with the flying fish too i guess?

[golden elk]

all I remember is fish

[tame tide]

I dont remember any fish when they met Damo

[heavy ledge]

damo was in the boat when they went sailing "because of the flying fish"

[tame tide]

do you mind sending panels

[golden elk]

sorry this is off topic but what exactly was hatos stand

she could extend her heels

[tame tide]

yes

[golden elk]

was that it

or was there something else

[tame tide]

walking heart

that was it

[golden elk]

so was her ability just extending heels

[tame tide]

yes

[golden elk]

that's kinda dumb

[ocean mirage]

best stand

[golden elk]

it was still is useful

but dumb

[ocean mirage]

it's the element of suprise

[heavy ledge]

idk who is saying those lines

josuke?

[tame tide]

thats just the narrator

[golden elk]

they look like narration

[heavy ledge]

ffs the description

[tame tide]

ig it is josuke then

[wet pulsar]

The next jojolion is coming out on the 17th?

[undone zodiac]

why did the fax yasuhu sent have a picture of damo while the name was josefumi? or will that be explained later

edit: nvm i kept reading

[white beacon]

The next JoJolion volume, Volume 23 [Whole Lotta Love], is coming out on the 17th. The next JoJolion chapter, Chapter 96 [Endless Calamity 2?] is coming out in the regular schedule.

[lost slate]

It's called Whole Lotta Love?

[minor ore]

I think that’s the volume and perhaps the final chapter themselves

[ocean mirage]

final chapter next ?

[white beacon]

Ifk, val says it's called Whole Lotta Love

Volume 23 covers the rest of Dangerous Pursuit, which means 3-6

[tame tide]

I don't think the chapters are gonna be called whole lotta love, it would be cool though

[kind owl]

@tame tide, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 21 !

[thorn pier]

Yeah the next chapters will be Endless Calamity, presumably.

There will at least be one more Endless Calamity, right? If not, there'd be no reason to call it Endless Calamity Part 1.

[upper knoll]

Correct

[white beacon]

but araki could change the title for the endless calamity arc, since he named a few arcs as Wonder Of You i forgot when but it strecthes out to Dangerous Pursuits 1 and 2 in the volumes

[noble haven]

@tame tide Whole Lotta Love will be the name of Dangerous Pursuit part 3-6

So it will be called Whole Lotta Love Part 1-3

[analog ether]

Wait is that true or is that just your assumption?

[noble haven]

Well it's called Whole Lotta Love

So that's the main logical assumption

[analog ether]

That's not necesarilly true
The Wonder of You could just be a really long arc, and they're just naming the volumes different things for flavour

[raw steppe]

Only a few Stands have namesakes that I feel like they couldn´t fit better...is it weird that I consider Doggy Style one of the best namesakes ever?

I´m not even a fan of Snoopdog or rap in general

[young meteor]

Why is that?

I actually lmao'd when the first time he revealed his stand name

[thorn pier]

You laughed so hard your ass fell off? I doubt that.

Sorry bro.

[young meteor]

Damn :(

[noble haven]

Really doubt that LPC lol

[summer dock]

Okay

Just blitzed through Steel Ball Run, how fun is Jojolion?

[thorn pier]

it's 👌

There's very few battles or anything that seem pointless.

The only one I can think of is Doobie Wah? Maybe?

Although that was pretty cool too.

[young meteor]

Jojolion is hella good

[thorn pier]

This is how I would describe Jojolion.

[young meteor]

^

[analog ether]

Wait, why do you doubt that?

[summer dock]

Nice nice

[kind owl]

@summer dock, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

[analog ether]

There have been plenty of volumes in the past that have names not the same as the chapter titles themselves

[summer dock]

I liked how besides the Boom Boom arc Steel Ball Run was very on-track

Other parts seemed to have ADHD and didn’t really focus too closely on the central plot

Especially Part 3

“Egypt family roadtrip, wheee”

[thorn pier]

-these 50 days sure were fun, right jotaro?

literally almost died every day

[summer dock]

Yeah honestly? Please don’t kill me but

regular stand fights get old after a while

I just can’t get invested

I liked how there were more guns and less over-reliance on stands in SBR

Vento aureo had some fun stand fights

[minor ore]

The concept of a stand fight changes throughout the series

In jjl it's more "environmental"

There have been no direct stand confrontations iirc

The main characters get put in a situation where their entire surroundings are weaponised and dangerous

[white beacon]

AoE stands

[minor ore]

Wouldn't call it AoE

The only true AoE stand is ozone baby

Weaponising environments is more accurate to describe all of them

[white beacon]

A O E

[minor ore]

Path of exile!!!

[young meteor]

Aath of exile

[minor ore]

That's the mobile spinoff version

The way i think of AoE is having a certain area marked where X happens

Like a 2m radius where it just rains fireballs is an AoE

[thorn pier]

CKB is not an AOE stand, yet it fits swe coo's description.

[minor ore]

CKB?

[thorn pier]

California King Bed.

[minor ore]

Yeah, what's kyo's stand name?

[thorn pier]

Born This Way

[minor ore]

That one weaponises environments without being AoE

[white beacon]

A-A.... oE.....

cries in AoE

[minor ore]

Blue hawaii too

[thorn pier]

Yeah but California King Bed also does that. It puts Josuke in a dangerous situation, and he has to find out how to get out of that situation.

[minor ore]

Every fight is against the surroundings

[thorn pier]

Yes? Is that not what you meant?

[minor ore]

Sort of

Yeah it is

Though in that case it's not the physical surroundings

It's the situation he finds himself in

Even up to the head doctor this concept still applies

Random things fly into you

In paper moon king it's a fight against the environment too

There must be some kind of explanation for this theme

I think it's to make the characters feel more isolated

[summer dock]

Amazing how far stands have come from “punch ghosts with superpowers

[white beacon]

it's a pure mind game now

no more brute force

[golden elk]

well to be fair the constant "my punchy ghost is stronger than your punchy ghost" got kinda old, I enjoy the unnecessary complexity of these new parts

[vocal mason]

I've always liked direct ghost punching fights

[minor ore]

stand go lego white house

[vocal mason]

I love how it was literally the Lego White House

[minor ore]

has everyone here read the most recent chapter

[vocal mason]

you can assume

spoilers for part 8 are free here

[minor ore]

lovely

[young meteor]

We also could talk previous chapters here

[vocal mason]

I have one question

what the hell happened to Caato

[minor ore]

dw she's defo coming back soon

[white beacon]

she just fucked off somewhere

[minor ore]

probably next chapter

[young meteor]

I think shes fine

[vocal mason]

you'd think she'd be all in on her son being the villain

[minor ore]

probably is

[white beacon]

she doesn't really have any business with the family anyways

[minor ore]

there's no way she just shows up and leaves

[white beacon]

and if jobin wants help, she'll gladly help

[heavy ledge]

i like how there are a few panels where you can actually see jojos fighting with their own hands

[analog ether]

Fucking RIP Aphex Twins

[vocal mason]

in general or in SBr/JJL specifically

[analog ether]

They got bodied so hard

[heavy ledge]

i mean, josuke goes full karate boy suddenly

[vocal mason]

yeah Josuke looks skinny but he's stronk

[white beacon]

Josuke just punches Damo

[heavy ledge]

josefumi too

[vocal mason]

he also bodied Joshu in Chapter 1

[white beacon]

he's punching actual rock, or at least a silicon-based material

[vocal mason]

nah Josuke punched Damo with Soft and Wet

and Damo was already dying

so the rock was crumbling

[white beacon]

still punched damo

[analog ether]

big rip

[vocal mason]

Josefumi just said goodbye to giving a shit

Also reposting because this is one of my fav pages

[white beacon]

when you so mad you forget you have superpowers and just physical hit rock people

[heavy ledge]

yeah i felt his anger

[unkempt beacon]

O

Im on jojolion

A few chapters in

Scream

[vocal mason]

if Josefumi used Soft & Wet then the Aphex twins would be dust

[heavy ledge]

fuck, my heart breaks everytime i remember that scene

[white beacon]

imagine if josuke just does a punch rush against the main villain

not even using s&w, just josuke himself

[young meteor]

Is it even possible?

[minor ore]

Josuke punches a lot

With his regular human fists

He's the most physical jojo since jonathan

[heavy ledge]

anyway isnt all that punching the pov of everyone who hasnt stand abilities

[minor ore]

Remember when he pulled down ojiro, threw him on the couch and just beat the shit out of him?

[summer dock]

Remember in Steel Ball Run when bullets actually work?

[minor ore]

Remember the aphex fight where he beats the shit out of one of them bare handed?

[white beacon]

oh right josuke beat the living shit out of ojiro

[summer dock]

And how in the rest of JoJo guns are usless

Imagine the final villain of jojolion just

Shoots people

[minor ore]

Gappy is insane

[white beacon]

it's a new universe, we can give it some room

[minor ore]

Remember in blue hawaii when he hits a zombie with a shovel and she blasts off into a wall?

[summer dock]

Like I’d be interested to see a JoJo villain without some broken stand

Or insane vampire powers

[minor ore]

Jobin

[summer dock]

True

But

[white beacon]

please araki, please

let jobin be the main villain and no one gets any power-ups

[minor ore]

Jobin AND akefu are both main villains

Win/win

Like how part 7 had two protagonists

[white beacon]

it would be like josuke/kira fight if jobin doesn't get a power-up

[young meteor]

Are you sure both are main villains? 🤨

[white beacon]

justt two stand users duking it out

[minor ore]

I got the idea from dmc3

[analog ether]

Heeeeeeyyyy

Same

[minor ore]

In that game you have 2 main villains

One for the demon plot and one for the family plot

Arkham and vergil

Same thing here

[thorn pier]

It's gonna be a 1v1v1, or the HD will be defeated early, although I think the first is more likely.

[kind owl]

@thorn pier, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 14 !

[analog ether]

Can you see Josuke and Jobin teaming up to fight the head doctor as well?

[thorn pier]

Jobin isn't gonna just be defeated or turn good or disappear now.

[minor ore]

YES

[thorn pier]

No. He won't turn good. Too late.

[white beacon]

another free for all would be nice too, it'd be like ozon baby again

[minor ore]

Josuke and jobin team up against HD before they fight each other

[heavy ledge]

i like jobin as main villain but that tooru guy just needed 2 panels to make me angry enough to hate him

[thorn pier]

Look, he killed his own dad to achieve his goals. Is he gonna turn good now? No.

[analog ether]

I'm not saying he turn good, I'm saying they put there differences aside to defeat the bigger threat

[white beacon]

i can't see jobin wanting to team up with josuke if jobin has the plant

but if HD has the plant, maybe they would team up

[thorn pier]

I don't think he'll do that. But I don't know.

[analog ether]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

[minor ore]

^

[white beacon]

or fight in a way that "looks like" they team up but really they're just fighting HD for themselves

[thorn pier]

I think that's more likely, yeah.

[minor ore]

Josuke is technically part of the higashikata family, he could trick jobin into thinking he's with him

And then grab the plant for himself

[thorn pier]

But... why would Jobin believe he can be trusted?

[heavy ledge]

i dont think jobin can be fooled that easily

[white beacon]

didn't jobin already see josuke hunt down the plant against poor tom though?

[thorn pier]

Yeah. And if he actually wanted to work with Josuke, why didn't they just work together?

I'm sure that there'd be more than enough fruit for both of them.

[heavy ledge]

anyway why does josuke want the rokaka anyway? holly has already had it or at least she says they experimented on her or sth like that

[thorn pier]

They can just grow more.

[heavy ledge]

destroy it maybe?

[thorn pier]

Josuke wants it to save Holly? Right?

The new Rokakaka is different.

[minor ore]

Honestly the entire plot could just be resolved if jobin had a talk with josuke

[lost slate]

Yep

[minor ore]

Too late now though

[heavy ledge]

i thought she already had the new rokaka, i remember some liquid tubes

[lost slate]

But now they have to kill each other

[thorn pier]

No. That was like... liquid old rokakaka.

[minor ore]

That's the locacaca

It's different

its rokakaka juice

😎

[heavy ledge]

ffs i cant read locacaca without thinking crazy shit

[thorn pier]

Yeah it's the old rokakaka but it's just been changed or something.

[white beacon]

this entire thing really woulda just ended if josuke accepted damo's offer to work with him, since he has enough rokakakas to work with

[thorn pier]

oh yeah I guess that's what it literally means lol

[white beacon]

like, jobin was working with damo

they all coulda just gotten a fruit, grafted it, then waited

[thorn pier]

Yeah. But Damo is maybe not to be trusted?

[minor ore]

Yeah a little talk and agreement could solve everything

[white beacon]

well, i guess the rush of saving tsurugi and holly maybe makes this a fight against time

[heavy ledge]

yeah but those guys are like the mafia i dont think he likes them anyway

[young meteor]

Josuke won't work with Damo after what he's done to the family

[thorn pier]

Honestly I don't know at this point. I mean, saving Holly requires an exchange anyway, yes? So would Josuke just let another innocent person die?

[minor ore]

And after what he did to his previous selves

[thorn pier]

And I don't get this either... the ground can perform the equivalent exchange between 2 different people, yes? So why use the fruit?

[minor ore]

What was kira's motivation btw?

[heavy ledge]

he wanted to cure holly

[minor ore]

@thorn pier not the ground that was the new fruit

[white beacon]

i'm pretty sure what they all assume right now is that the new rokakaka can cure without an exchange, which is what the rokakaka organization has been trying to perfect, right?

[thorn pier]

But the tangerine and the orange.

Remember that?

[minor ore]

Oh fuck

[thorn pier]

No wait.

It was an orange and a lemon.

But.

Still.

[young meteor]

Lemon and tangerine

[heavy ledge]

wasnt jesus christs corpse buried there

[minor ore]

That just mixes things though, new fruit can straight up cure

[thorn pier]

It can?

So why did Kira die?

[white beacon]

it was buried there, only for a moment, before the US special agents took it back from johnny's dead body

[heavy ledge]

he was already dead before eating the fruit

[minor ore]

He was already dying

[thorn pier]

So it didn't cure.

[heavy ledge]

[analog ether]

Can you cure death?

[white beacon]

it cured josefumi

[young meteor]

Kira 😔

[minor ore]

Yeah it can't bring dead guys back to life

But it did fix up josefumi

[heavy ledge]

it healed his body not his soul

[thorn pier]

The only reason for them believing that it can cure the disease is because Iwasuke ate it, right?

[white beacon]

the wounds josefumi had transferred to kira via fruit, then they mixed underground

[minor ore]

I assume the amnesia is just from mixing with a dead guy

[heavy ledge]

poor daddies

[analog ether]

No actually, I think everyone is after the new fruit right now because Josuke EXISTS

[minor ore]

Damn we need to read JJL again

[thorn pier]

What?

[heavy ledge]

yeah they want the new locaca to make equivalent exchange

[thorn pier]

Yeah I'm rereading it now, mostly because Ozone Baby is in color now.

[white beacon]

jjl has been going on for so we forget the story itself

[thorn pier]

Yes. But equivalent exchange... they can just use the ground outside the Higashikata Estate?

[analog ether]

From everyone's perspective, Kira and Josefumi both vanished, they ate the fruit and then Kira's corpse turned up a couple days later. Then this random kid Josuke just appeared.

Yes, that's what Norisuke wants to do

[minor ore]

@thorn pier it doesn't cure though, it just transfers

[analog ether]

But that wouldn't get rid of the curse

[thorn pier]

But that's what the Rokakaka would do.

Right?

[analog ether]

MAYBE?

[white beacon]

everyone wants the fruit because they're in a rush. jobin rushing to free tsurugi of the curse, josuke rushing to save holly

[minor ore]

Nope, new rokakaka cures

[analog ether]

Do we actually know??

[thorn pier]

How do we know it does?

We don't... do we?

[minor ore]

Because josuke is a thing

[heavy ledge]

cos josuke

[thorn pier]

What? He wasn't cured. You said it yourself, his wounds were transferred to Kira.

[heavy ledge]

the downside of the new locaca is amnesia, which may not be a really downside if you just want to erase your memory lol

[minor ore]

Nope both bodies were in perfect condition

[thorn pier]

But Kira was dead. And when he ate the fruit he wasn't yet? I don't know.

[white beacon]

let's all, reread jojolion, together

[minor ore]

@heavy ledge the nesia could just be due to mixing with a dead body

[heavy ledge]

maybe

[minor ore]

Kira was dead but he had a perfect body

[thorn pier]

Yeah I don't know.

[minor ore]

Like when part 4 josuke tried healing his dead dad

Body had no injuries but he still died

[thorn pier]

But then performing an equivalent exchange between Holly and someone else... that'd still be kinda weird, yes?

[heavy ledge]

lets say he was brain dead when josefumi gave him the fruit

[minor ore]

If he had the new fruit holly would be cured

[thorn pier]

Yes, but she would mix with another person?

[minor ore]

Nope

[thorn pier]

Unless only she ate the fruit? I don't fucking know.

[minor ore]

You'd have to be in higashikata grounds

[analog ether]

I'm basically just waiting for this new Rokakaka to be used in some way so I can connect everything together in my brain. Also, I want to see an actual Rock Human eat one as well, cus that's supposed to be a whole other thing as well.

[thorn pier]

Okay. But isn't it explained that the new Rokakaka performs an equivalent exchange between two people?

[minor ore]

I don't think so

That's the old one

[thorn pier]

Kira and Josefumi had the new Rokakaka and ate it. Yes?

[minor ore]

Yes it healed them

[analog ether]

Well, just Kira ate it

[white beacon]

they had a version2 of the rokakaka

[minor ore]

He mixing only happened because of the wall eyes

[analog ether]

Josefumi never actually ate it

[white beacon]

there's an old rokakaka, kirafumi rokakaka(grafted on a tree), and then the jobin rokakaka(kirafumi but now grafted on a cactus)

[thorn pier]

Here is what it says on the wiki, although it is not necessarily more trustworthy than we are.

[minor ore]

Rokakaka = equivalent exchange
New rokakaka = healing
Wall eyes = mixing

Hmmm

[thorn pier]

Not according to the wiki. But.

[minor ore]

That's the old wiki isn't it?

[thorn pier]

What you're saying is very likely too, although it may be mentioned what the actual power of the new rokakaka is and I just don't remember.

No.

Locacaca 6251 is there too.

Which was revealed just a few chapters ago.

[heavy ledge]

the thing is that you mix with someone else but you dont lose anything while exchanging, its not equivalent exchange anymore with the soil and the new rokaka

[analog ether]

Is it the Fandom wiki though

[heavy ledge]

remember that the old rokaka involves you losing something to cure something else

[thorn pier]

It is.

[minor ore]

Fandom wiki is unreliable or so i hear

[analog ether]

THat's the old one

[thorn pier]

although it is not necessarily more trustworthy than we are.

Yeah I said that already.

But it's not 100% unreliable.

[heavy ledge]

the new grafted rokaka is not literally equivalent exchange because you gain more body parts, for example... balls

[thorn pier]

Someone may have actually reread Jojolion with the purpose of finding out what the Rokakaka does.

[minor ore]

Honestly we need to see the new rokakaka in use

[thorn pier]

Yeah.

[tame tide]

you dont gain body parts from New rokakaka

[minor ore]

The only time we saw it is in the wall eyes with a half dying guy and an actual corpse

[heavy ledge]

4 balls

[analog ether]

Also, it wasn't even ripe

[tame tide]

he has 4 balls because of the wall eyes

[analog ether]

To add more to the confusion

[minor ore]

Goddammit araki

[thorn pier]

But they are going after the Rokakaka because Tsurugi saw it cure the dog, right?

[heavy ledge]

ffs

[analog ether]

That's how it started yes

[white beacon]

there's three different rokakakas and one of them was used before being ripe

araki is toying with us honestly

[thorn pier]

Yes. But that was the old Rokakaka. Why dont' they just use that one?

[analog ether]

Yotsuyu showed Tsurugi a magic fruit and that's how they all discovered us

[minor ore]

Old rokakaka makes a random part rock

It can easily kill you

[analog ether]

It's also random as fuck

[thorn pier]

Yes. It takes the "power" from that part and brings it to another part of your body.

[minor ore]

What if it just rocks your brain

Dead

[thorn pier]

That was mentioned.

[heavy ledge]

id better get to work before i have a mind blown

[thorn pier]

And sometimes you just die.

Wu mentioned that.

I think.

[white beacon]

isn't that what the rokakaka research team is doing?

[analog ether]

Yes

[thorn pier]

Yeah. They developed Locacaca 6251.

[white beacon]

to make a rokakaka serum that prevents that from happening

[analog ether]

That's how the juice got made

[thorn pier]

Which is what Josuke used.

But his eye still became stone.

[minor ore]

But it made him rock too

Stones all the way down his body

[analog ether]

Also they were testing it on Holy, and that's why she has a weird rock thing on her body

[white beacon]

it only prevents your brain from rockifying

[thorn pier]

So. The old rokakaka can seemingly cure the rock disease... yes?

Because Iwasuke was cured.

[minor ore]

Yeah i think so

[white beacon]

iwasuke is a rock dog

[thorn pier]

So... couldn't they use that?

[analog ether]

I thought Iwasuke was a rock dog?

Rock Animal

[white beacon]

like doremi

[thorn pier]

He is. But that is why everyone wants to get the rokakaka.

[analog ether]

Yes

[thorn pier]

Because Tsurugi saw the rokakaka heal Iwasuke.

[minor ore]

Maybe it doesn't have effects on rock humans?

And rock animals

[thorn pier]

So. Rock humans turn to stone once in a while.

It seems that maybe the rokakaka can make that not happen?

Is that it?

[white beacon]

yeah, for hibernation purposes

[thorn pier]

Yes.

[white beacon]

if the old rokakaka did that, there wouldn't really be any rock humans now at all

[minor ore]

Now would be a good time for araki to make a chart

[thorn pier]

Why not? What do you mean?

[white beacon]

if the old rokakaka "cures" rockification, rock humans wouldn't exist because they'd all be just regular humans by now by eating it

so i can assume that the old rokakaka doesn't do that

[thorn pier]

No? Why would they become normal humans?

My theory is that it can postpone their hibernation.

Or something.

[lost slate]

They say it will 'bring then to new heights' so the hibernation thing sounds likely

but it probably wouldn't be the only thing it does

[near cedar]

Who fuckin knows

We shall see

[lost slate]

what if the HD gets the rokakaka and becomes the ultimate lifeform

[near cedar]

It's prob gonna be what gives Satoru the power up

[lost slate]

i mean this part is drawing on battle tendency stuff

[near cedar]

Satoru gets power up, Jobin and Josuke take him out, 1 Rokaka left time for Josuke vs Jobin

How's that sound?

[minor ore]

Gives rock humans a super power probably

The rokakaka turns them into pillar men?

[near cedar]

I just want that cuz i wanna see what the rokaka will give the rock peeps

[analog ether]

👀

[lost slate]

Most likely Josuke wins and cures Holly, but equivalent exchange occurs

[thorn pier]

Awesome.

But first, a lot of confusion since something happens.

And it will explain the chapter 83 flashforward.

[analog ether]

Man, I'm both equally excited for the chapter and the volume to come out

Just so I can see that fucking spine art

[thorn pier]

Yeah lol

[lost slate]

Are you buying the physical copy?

[analog ether]

no, no

I just wanna see the next piece of spine art

[lost slate]

lol

[analog ether]

BECAUSE

[lost slate]

I'm buying new volume the day it comes out

[minor ore]

YOOO

[lost slate]

Hmm that looks like it could be his stand

[minor ore]

HOLY SHIT

[white beacon]

we already know it's tooru, and it makes sense because he's currently the only new character involved in the story as of late

and he's in the dangerous pursuit arc, which 23 will feature

[analog ether]

I know
but
I need to seee it

Also, Araki could have just drawn the HD's stand next to him

So I'm choosing to belive this is more relevant

[lost slate]

That's what I'm thinking

It's probably his stand

BUT

It'll also have tooru in it

If even slightly

[thorn pier]

I'm excited now

[analog ether]

I mean I'm fairly certain that it's Tooru in that spine art. I don't think the stand has that same dumb teddy bear on it.
What I mean is, I think it's relevant that Araki drew Tooru next to the HD, as opposed to just drawing the HD next to his stand. I mean in it's not like Tooru does anything in the 4 chapters that will be in Vol 23, so it doesn't have anything to do with that either.

[azure canopy]

that doesn't look like Tooru

It looks like the other dr

[lost slate]

Yeah, it's doctor Wu

[white beacon]

maybe the stand itself isn't really that important, like its ability is featured more than its visual form, which we only saw twice, that's why tooru's there instead

[analog ether]

To the right dude
The character that's mostly offpage

[kind owl]

@analog ether, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 15 !

[azure canopy]

oooh

[lost slate]

ahh

[white beacon]

i mean, among the research team, only wu has his stand on the spine, which is himself

[minor ore]

Do we have confirmation of it being tooru?

[near cedar]

Dr Wu's hair looks like grass

Change my mind

[analog ether]

It's the exact same bear thing that's on Tooru's shoudler

[lost slate]

But you can see something behind Satoru

That's probably his stand

[near cedar]

Why does Jobin's wife have her fucking panties on display

With a seetrough skirt

[white beacon]

she's ms. cherry

[analog ether]

THis is a better shot

[minor ore]

Lmao the bears

[white beacon]

dumb design, hate his ass

[minor ore]

That's hilarious

Yeah horrible design

Really ugly

[lost slate]

Almost as bad as Joshu hair

[minor ore]

Worse

[lost slate]

Better

[white beacon]

but we do see him more than we see akefu's stand and he's definitely more involved, so it makes perfect sense that he's on the next spine

speed king isn't on the spines yet so maybe we'll see it on 24 or 25

[analog ether]

Also, him and the Head Doctor both have big shnoses. That means literally nothing but I just want to say it

[upper knoll]

Speed King and Tooru, who else

[white beacon]

kaato, if she really truly has more to add to jjl other than being jobin's mom

[lost slate]

She has to have plot relevance

Was she there when Jobin killed Nori?

[white beacon]

she wasn't

we don't know where she is at all

[lost slate]

Hmm

[white beacon]

but she's been mentioned a lot

[lost slate]

Then I'd guess she comes in later

Probably while this is all going on

Maybe even next chapter

[young meteor]

When was the last time Kaato appeared?

[minor ore]

The spine art thing is really cool though

Did they do this with previous parts?

[young meteor]

I guess yes

[white beacon]

araki did this with sbr

dunno about the old universe

jobin mentioned about kaato when he was in the bed with mitsuba, i think, when he was making a speach about paths or something

but also before that was tsurugi being bullied because his grandma was kaato the imprisoned

it may be a while ago for us but in jjl terms, might as well be yesterday

[analog ether]

Yeah all the previous parts had spine art

[young meteor]

She only mentioned many times

I mean her full appearance

[white beacon]

her full appearance? ever since her visit to the house

i think what swe coo was asking for is if the other parts had spine arts that was like one long continuous image, like sbr or jjl's spines

[analog ether]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the other parts did

I at least remember there being ones for 4 and 5

[lost slate]

Yep, they did this in parts 1-5

because those were released as one long part

[minor ore]

Its really cool, i wonder how he plans them out

[analog ether]

Ok, yeah, they started at part 4

[minor ore]

He obviously had no concept of a head doctor back in chapter 1, but looking at them in order you'd think it was all painted at once

[white beacon]

i mean, the volumes come out at a much later date so araki has ample time to choose who to draw for the spine based on the story he's covered so far

[lost slate]

Now I want to get all the jojo manga

[analog ether]

There you go

[minor ore]

He keeps the same color motif throughout

Amazing

[lost slate]

The Part 1-2 stuff is really tempting

Even though it's not continuous

And yeah, Araki's really good at this stuff

[kind owl]

@lost slate, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 12 !

[dusty kindle]

smh spoiled

[heavy ledge]

seeing merch makes me wish i was born in japan

thers no way i can get one of those unless i go there

[minor ore]

Not true, you can order off the amazon Japan website @heavy ledge

I just got some and I live in the US

6 volumes for around 45~

[heavy ledge]

the inflation here is absolutely ridiculous so id have to save up like 3 months and wait half a year haha anyway ill find out how, i HAVE to have at least 1 vol of jojolion

[white beacon]

a used book store is your best bet at any cheap non-english manga

i got a volume of berserk and takehiko inoue's REAL, both for less than half a dollar

[heavy ledge]

they only have up to some stardust crusaders volumes here, and the translation is awful

i guess i saw a copy of diamond is unbreakable on the internet and it costed around 21 dollars

wait nvm its 42 bucks now

[white beacon]

stardust was the only jojo manga to ever be officially translated in english before the jojoniums, and that was back in the 90s i think

man, that sucks honestly just typing out what i said

but either way, keep looking, you might be lucky and strike gold to see so, sbr, or jjl

[heavy ledge]

im from argentina tho so it is actually awful because they translate idioms into spanish rioplatense and it sucks ass

its so weird

id prefer it was translated to neutral spanish

[minor ore]

It's like if they translated it into arabic but with an algerian dialect

[grizzled pilot]

well, if you wanna be technical

[kind owl]

@grizzled pilot, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 16 !

[grizzled pilot]

rohan at the louvre's official english tl was second

around the same time as the anime iirc

[minor ore]

Animal Crossing kills me sometimes.
"Hey, do you know what kind of drinks Kira likes?"
"Yes?"
"Ah! I thought to ask you, I bet you two are so close you know everything about each other."

My name is Josefumi, Kira is my duping account

[heavy ledge]

im sure he likes green tea

[deep jasper]

Kira probably likes something with more Vitamin C in it

[thorn pier]

Maybe something with tropical fruits? Just sayin' I think that's more likely. I've heard he hates Vitamin C.

[heavy ledge]

Everything he likes is green

Which reminds me of josefumis lipstick tone

That happens to be green...

🌶️

[white beacon]

👀

i like where this is going

[thorn pier]

I don't... 👀

[heavy ledge]

Oh yes ⚓ 💛

[minor ore]

[upper knoll]

❓

[heavy ledge]

We kirafumi shippers have our codes and mental disorders, dont mind us

[grizzled pilot]

i wanna get on board with it but i need the birthmark to be resolved first. its too weird otherwise

[white beacon]

Just think of it as a tattoo hahahahahahaha

please be a tattoo

[grizzled pilot]

if its like. pucci magic or something

then its fine

[thorn pier]

Don't get on board don't get on board don't get on board

[heavy ledge]

its a tattoo, he has no birthmark as a child

see? not there

[azure canopy]

we're at the birthmark discussion again

[heavy ledge]

no discussion, its not there

araki deliver pls

[fluid vessel]

[white beacon]

He only got the star when he took a pic with kira, which means after he met kira, which means 👀 👀 👀 👀

[heavy ledge]

🔥 🔥

[kind sun]

Dude what if we got another bites the dust

And norisukes death will be like Rohans

[grizzled pilot]

look i just dont trust that easy ok

its too suspicious!

[kind sun]

Josefumi has birth mark

No f way its a tatoo

He is the son of Joseph

[queen fox]

Josefumi has the Birthmark, Araki likely forgot to be consistent

[upper knoll]

Wait what is this

Am I misremembering Ojiro vs Jobin? I dont believe the doc was there

[tame tide]

its edited

[lofty matrix]

I can see Kaato appearing again or Kyo

[upper knoll]

Okay, ty, Val

[robust ibex]

wait a minute

[minor ore]

"the lost jockey" by that same artist from earlier

[golden elk]

Kira would've had the birthmark

because Kira is a joestar descendent

josefumi isn't, so josuke would only have it because he's Kira + josefumi

[grizzled pilot]

except josefumi does have it, and it's logical to say he is, in fact, a descendant of johnny in some way

[golden elk]

wait he does

[tame tide]

he had it for one panel

[azure canopy]

he had it and then he didn't

kira had it and then he didn't

[tame tide]

kira is a joestar, we dont know josefumis bloodline

[golden elk]

wait he does

[grizzled pilot]

he had it for one panel

[azure canopy]

yeah

both of them had it for like one panel

and then they didn't anymore

[minor ore]

Araki forgot?

[azure canopy]

don't think so

[grizzled pilot]

thats why i gotta have this resolved man

cant trust nothin

[heavy ledge]

sweet home alabama

[fathom field]

Anyone else rooting for the HD against Jobin now?

Cos he can geeet fuuuuuuucked

[upper knoll]

Joshu vs Jobin

Then if Joshu loses (please no), HD vs Jobin, I guess

[fathom field]

Joshu could take off parts of his body Jobin heats up. Could actually be a fun fight

[young meteor]

Joshu will win 😏

[upper knoll]

I believe it.

[simple kraken]

Joshu redemption
Joshu redemption

[analog ether]

What if he actually wins, but then the whole "memory removing" thing that happens just before the harvest causes him to forget everything that happens anyway?

[minor ore]

Joshu will mop the floor with Jobin as soon as he sees what happened to Yasuho

Jousuke vs Jobin vs HD triple threat match for the rokakaka world championship

book it araki

[upper knoll]

I mean we had something like this already right

3way battle

Jobin and Tsurugi vs Poor Tom vs Josuke and Rai, I think

Was that the matchup?

[minor ore]

i think so but i was just kinda memeing with that idea

[upper knoll]

Ive been memeing Joshu vs Jobin but bro

if it really happens then lowkey mind blown

Because I cannot take such a situation seriously, I can't imagine it

[minor ore]

Norisuke's death will not be in vain

[lost slate]

If Joshu doesn't do anything next chapter

Then he's lost the chance to be the part 8 protagonist

[upper knoll]

Depends on what the next chapter is gonna be

It could be focused on Josuke in hospital
Could be focused on Rai in jail
Could be focused on Yasuho trying to recover (shes also pretty close to HD so maybe some interaction?)

[young meteor]

Or focused on Jobin after killing Norisuke

[upper knoll]

Yeah thats where Joshu would come in

[lost slate]

I feel like it'll be 50/50

[simple kraken]

Part 8 is so unpredictable

[lost slate]

It's Jobin and the Higashikatas

And then halfway through it switches to Josuke with his 'brilliant plan'

[upper knoll]

Whats his plan again?

[tame tide]

to do some shit with a package

[lost slate]

He wants to indirectly pursue the HD

[exotic cobalt]

Satoru akefu is an anagram for toru's a fake

[minor ore]

lol

[coral cliff]

@exotic cobalt I don't think it's that deep

[exotic cobalt]

Torus a bit sus tho, hes the only one with a pic of HD's face

[coral cliff]

Made this very quickly, don't crucify me

[grizzled pilot]

jobin goes full dio and kills half the main cast

[lost slate]

Well

Maybe he kills most of his family, kyo and Yasuho

Then he goes up to Josuke

[minor ore]

My memory doesn't serve right, but was Jobin still present when we first see a glimpse of Norisuke's dead body?

[lost slate]

Not that I recall

[minor ore]

Hm.. what if that implies his defeat?

Of course, he may have just left the house

[lost slate]

Then Tsurugi has to be doing something important

Maybe to do with his stand

[grizzled pilot]

jobin was like "tsurugi take care of grandpa for me k"

[lost slate]

"I gotta go eat one of the melon parfaits at our cafe"

[minor ore]

But I am sure Jobin will most likely meet his demise in the next four chapters or so

Perhaps not even by Josuke

[lost slate]

I'd love to see him get killed by the HD

[grizzled pilot]

like risotto

just have him be like "hrrgh here i am to be the even badder villain" then get taken tf out

[lost slate]

And Kato needs to come in the picture soon

Maybe she's involved with Norisuke's murder

[minor ore]

I feel like she cheats on him

[lost slate]

Totally

[minor ore]

I legit almost thought that she was the one letting Poor Tom eat her out

[lost slate]

oh lol

[minor ore]

That would be a big middle finger to Norisuke

Imagine your fairly hot wife doing some old guy who looks like an infant

[young meteor]

Aren't they divorced?

Before Kaato goes to prison

[minor ore]

I think so

[rapid kraken]

#off-topic-general i just want to type this so i can find where is the server because i'm blind.

[young meteor]

I read on the wiki they already divorced

[minor ore]

Click the discussion channels toggle Anass

[wet pulsar]

When was the last time josuke used his plunder ability properly? I can only remember him using the soap bubbles as a utility as of late

[ripe marlin]

uhhh ozone baby

[wet pulsar]

What’d he plunder?

Or steal

I can’t remember

[young meteor]

Iirc he used the bubbles to protect himself in ozone baby arc

[lost slate]

He faked-out Poor Tom with a 'poisonous berry'

It wasn't actually poisonous

[wet pulsar]

Did he steal the poisons property from the berry?

[kind owl]

@wet pulsar, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 4 !

[wet pulsar]

And him using the soap bubbles to protect himself isn’t using the plunder ability. He’s just using the bubbles as a utility

[lost slate]

Ah, right

The last time I remember for sure is Shakedown Road

[white beacon]

It kinda still counts as plundering just by storing a small thing inside the bubble

[wet pulsar]

It’s a bit of a stretch I think

You wouldn’t call it plundering when he put himself in the bubble

[ripe marlin]

he stole the fake rokaka branch

[wet pulsar]

Again that’s not really using the plunder ability

Putting something in the bubble isn’t the plunder ability. He hasn’t stolen a property of something as of late

At least not that I remember

[white beacon]

Yes but it's still plundering in the general definition of it, which is taking something, and in this case, storing it in the bubble

What you should have specifically asked at first is if he has stolen a property of an object as of late, which is also under plundering

[minor ore]

Does josuke have 4 balls in 1 sack or 2 balls in 2 sacks or 1 ball in 4 sacks

[grizzled pilot]

4 in one

presumably

or maybe 2 in 2 actually

actually, yasuho does describe it as "2 x 2"...

[young meteor]

2 on the left and 2 on the right ig

[minor ore]

I thought it was top to bottom

[winter ridge]

well its definitely arranged in a square

[edgy mortar]

Secksx

[old marlin]

o o
o o

[royal gale]

ah yes, discussing Josuke's balls

[kind owl]

@royal gale, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 1 !

[young meteor]

This is an interesting discussion

[old marlin]

It happens once a week

[edgy mortar]

Kira has no testicles

What does it look like

[simple kraken]

Rod

[edgy mortar]

Yes

[minor ore]

What happens when you take too many steroids basically

[minor ore]

Big old rabbit

[sinful lance]

That's a really fat rabbit

[kind owl]

@sinful lance, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 3 !

[young meteor]

Ngl but that's cute

[minor ore]

Kira is so cute

[pale delta]

the rabbit has shaded lips

[sinful lance]

He looks scary for me

[cold field]

ok

here's a stupid idea

what if Josuke is sent back to a different dimension or something

to the world of Part 4 so he can provide the role of the delinquent

who saves Josuke in the 80s

i mean

i dunno

[pale delta]

That would ruin the themes though

[cold field]

yeah, soz

its just seeing that 'delinquent' all bloodied up for no reason bugs me

[ripe marlin]

@old marlin b

[pale delta]

It was just a random kind stranger

[ripe marlin]

@old marlin b

[pale delta]

Araki Said it was unrelated to Josuke

[ripe marlin]

@old marlin BIG CHUNGUS

[cold field]

who apparently was bleeding to death

yeah but still

[ripe marlin]

[cold field]

i thought it was pretty stupid that it meant nothing imo

[pale delta]

Bruh explosions cause bullet holes in jojo

dont ask

[cold field]

lmao ok

[ripe marlin]

the most accepted theory is that josukes savior is in fact josuke himself, who was going to be sent back in time by an early version of BtD

but it got changed mid plot, leading to an araki forgot

[minor ore]

Yeah I always bought that

[pale delta]

No no, Araki EXPLICITLY stated in an interview that it is unrelated to Josuke

[ripe marlin]

what interview

[pale delta]

Like i remmember, badonk

[ripe marlin]

and there it is, the biggest problem in the jojos fandom

not that what you said is wrong, hell it could be right

but like, the majority of jojo conversations involve araki interviews no one can find

[pale delta]

To be fair the man gets interviewed more than most people, in japan, where people speak japanese

[ripe marlin]

yeah

its a valid thing

[pale delta]

And his shit got popular in like the 90s

[ripe marlin]

and thats why it leads to so many problems

but it also leads to shit like "araki confirmed part 9 in this interview"
"Dio is pansexual, araki said so"

[pale delta]

The translators hold so much power lmao

[ripe marlin]

fun fact: This server has had 3 fake jojo interviews made by different users all named funny valentine

@tame tide link?

[minor ore]

Lol man be using D4C for real

[pale delta]

Epic, were they funny?

[ripe marlin]

no they were like, proper hoaxes

some got big too

[pale delta]

So not funny

[ripe marlin]

one of the part 9 confirmed ones got huge

[pale delta]

how big

[tame tide]

https://jojowiki.com/Interview_Archive

[pale delta]

Like spread to reddit or some shit

[minor ore]

I feel like the people who make those hoaxes about Part 9 are the ones who desperately just want 8 to end

[edgy mortar]

Ent3r in jooj discussion 😳

[ripe marlin]

gyg

neat

huh*

[pale delta]

hehe yes

[ripe marlin]

congrats enter you are officially correct

[pale delta]

first time in a year

[ripe marlin]

here is your reddit gold

go away now

[pale delta]

thakn you thakn you im just a hero

[woven anvil]

ERROR: I will not ban admins or global admins: Cain#0303

ERROR: No valid users found, quitting.

[ripe marlin]

@old marlin nice job dumbass

[old marlin]

[stark fossil]

I watched that funny valentine video, you have to be a right to think it's legit

[ripe marlin]

not sure which one you mean

[thorn pier]

It is mentioned that rock humans give birth to humans. So their species is doomed? Is that why they need the Rokakaka?

[vocal mason]

We don't know a ton of details regarding Rock Human society

other than how long they live for and their sleeping schedule

[white beacon]

and that 95% of them are stand users

[vocal mason]

for some reason

I guess basically confirming that some people are born with stands

some people are under the impression that the SBR-verse stands can only be recived through a trial or event or through the corpse

but I just assumed there are born stand users

Like Kira and Kyo

[white beacon]

maybe their side of the family has a bunch of natural stand users too

as if johnny's genes that awakens stands passed on to them

[vocal mason]

probably

because honestly in part 7 Valentine can't have found that many people who went through a devil's palm

[white beacon]

i forgot who said it but someone in jjl also mentioned that all the higashikatas have stands, just that no one exactly knows what each other does

[vocal mason]

all the living Higashikatas

[minor ore]

Sup JJL peeps

[vocal mason]

howdy

but its said that they all got the stands from living so close to the Wall Eyes