#jojolion

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tame tide
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they usually sacrifice family members

thorn pier
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Yes.

minor ore
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Jobin didn’t want to sacrifice anyone else but at the ended up he sacrificed norisuke either way

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Like...

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Jobin your whole point you are literally doing the opposite

thorn pier
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They usually sacrifice family members. And they could still sacrifice other people, that's what happened with Jobin, right? So how does the Rokakaka change anything for them?

minor ore
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That’s the real question like what does the new fully ripened rokakaka do

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We haven’t seen it in a action

thorn pier
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Wait. But the one Josefumi and Kira used was not fully ripe?

minor ore
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No it wasn’t

thorn pier
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I see.

minor ore
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Their fusion was the ground they were buried in

thorn pier
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So wait, why the fuck does everyone want it again? If nobody knows its actual powers.

minor ore
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It also looks poisonous ngl

thorn pier
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Sorry, it's been a while since I read it. I don't remember everything.

minor ore
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The new new one

thorn pier
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Yes?

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The new one which is also ripe.

minor ore
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The one jobin has is different from both of the previous once’s

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Cause it was grafted to a cactus

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That’s why the rokakaka looks like a cactus fruit now

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It’s a completely different thing

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There’s 3 versions of it

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The original one, the first one that was grafted onto the tree and now this double grafted one

thorn pier
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Yeah.

minor ore
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And something is telling me this new fruit is... welp dangerous

thorn pier
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So what does Jobin believe it'll do?

minor ore
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Cure the disease

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Without a sacrifice

thorn pier
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With no exchange? That might happen.

minor ore
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And at the end it will backfire

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Remember how tsurugi was cured before it was ripened too

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It wasn’t used on him

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Or maybe an unripened version was used

thorn pier
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Maybe that's what will cause the inevitable new stand thing that causes everyone to forget about Norisuke's death.

minor ore
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Maybe it’s an arrow like thing

thorn pier
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Yeah, perhaps.

minor ore
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And it will cause something like a requiem stand

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Not as powerful probably

thorn pier
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Requiem stands were OP and I don't want more.

kind owlBOT
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@thorn pier, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 13 !

minor ore
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I also think the rock disease was caused by a rock human and a human having a child or fusing

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Like a punishment

thorn pier
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Well, it's a curse. So I don't know.

tame tide
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rock humans and humans can't have kids

minor ore
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They can

tame tide
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no they can't

minor ore
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97.5% of the time they break up

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There’s a 2.5% chance of a kid happening

tame tide
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theres just a 2.5% chance they wont break up

minor ore
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No where is it stated that they can have kids

thorn pier
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We haven't seen any rock women yet

minor ore
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Also yea wait

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar Rank is now level 11 !

tame tide
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which arc did you get that panel from

minor ore
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We really haven’t

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Chapter 46

thorn pier
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I think it's all explained around the I Am A Rock arc or the Doobie Wah arc.

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Is that correct?

tame tide
minor ore
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So they can’t have kids

thorn pier
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Yeah.

white beacon
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I think it means incompatible romantically, which adds to the 97.5 breakup

minor ore
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It’s weird because it has never been clearly stated

thorn pier
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I don't think so...

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But I don't know.

white beacon
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Well either way, it's not stated whether or not they can have kids with a human so...

thorn pier
tame tide
white beacon
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I'd let him storm my brain

thorn pier
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So when do you think Rai will return?

minor ore
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Biologically

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I think that’s some hint

thorn pier
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Maybe the rock humans have created a super being, a mix between human and rock human 🤔

minor ore
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Didn’t the higashikata who participated in the steel ball run race have 2 belly buttons

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And his designs had rocks all over and he was hella old but still got far in the race

thorn pier
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Yeah, I guess those were rocks.

minor ore
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How does he have 2 belly buttons

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It reminds me of gappy

thorn pier
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He was born... twice.

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Yes.

minor ore
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That would explain why almost all higashikatas seem to have stands

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95% chance

white beacon
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Rina is the first human we know of that's afflicted with the rock disease, but what separates her and the other higashikatas is that she gets it when she was already married to johnny, while the higashikatas have their first born get it when they reach the age of ten

minor ore
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Isn’t she the daughter of the dude with 2 belly buttons

white beacon
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Granddaughter, I think

thorn pier
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Huh. Yeah, that's right.

minor ore
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Maybe that’s why she had the disease

tame tide
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a few of the higashikatas got their stands from the wall eyes

thorn pier
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Maybe the rock disease is because of the corpse or something? Even though that doesn't really make sense.

white beacon
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No wait she is the daughter yeah

minor ore
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It’s like a punishment because a half human half rock human person had a baby with a human

thorn pier
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Maybe, yeah.

tame tide
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what

minor ore
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A curse

thorn pier
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That's a really good theory.

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It's not really relevant, but...

minor ore
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That will probably come into play we still have to find some shit out about the fruit and it’s origins and the rock disease

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But would be it be super early planning from araki

white beacon
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I wouldn't really say that norisuke1 is covered rocks, since tusk4 also has those

minor ore
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What if you perform an autopsy on a rock disease victim's corpse?

thorn pier
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Yeah, but he might just be a rock human or something.

minor ore
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He was close to 70 and got so far in the race

tame tide
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if he was a rock human then he would not have human children

minor ore
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He has 2 belly buttons which leads me to believe he is a fusion

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His ancestors have 1

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It’s like trying to bypass the system and his whole family gets cursed because of it

white beacon
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But how could a fusion take place when it only happens in the wall eyes which is assumed to be soil that was blessed by the corpse

minor ore
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Wait

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Who has 2 belly buttons?

thorn pier
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Norisuke from SBR.

minor ore
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The original norisuke

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WHAT

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And he is so old

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And agile

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Like this dudes 68...

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Damn that's what i get for rushing to jjl

white beacon
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Not so agile, moreso knows how to ride a horse well

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I would say

thorn pier
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It's not 89 though.

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Good thing he's not 89...

minor ore
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Guys guys...

Head doctor age in 1991 :))))

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Ehisusksksk

thorn pier
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Haha. 69.

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I assume that's it?

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I don't wanna do the math.

minor ore
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Yeah

thorn pier
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Except, well... Jojolion takes place in 2011, right?

minor ore
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Yup

thorn pier
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Oh.

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Fuck.

minor ore
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He's 89 in 2011

thorn pier
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I'm smart OK.

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I got the best grade in math test I'm not stupi dok

kind sphinx
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He says he's 89 in 2011

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Dude could be like 220 years old

minor ore
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Yea

thorn pier
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Yeah. He's most likely not 89

white beacon
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Since he looks very old, and rockies can live up to 240

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Yeah he's probs 220 or something I agree

minor ore
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He looks ancient

thorn pier
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If he's the baby in chapter 22, he's not 220 though.

minor ore
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The 5th secret pillar man

thorn pier
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Then he's just 130 or something.

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Maybe 110 or 120.

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Depending on how long it takes a rock baby to become not a rock baby.

minor ore
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The baby couldn’t talk remember

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It also had a gem resembling the red stone of Asia but it’s probably a reference

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That was chapter 22 pretty sure

thorn pier
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Yeah. I said that already.

minor ore
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Imma reread rq

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Oh oops blind me

thorn pier
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Also it's not the red stone of asia 👀

minor ore
thorn pier
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It's Aja.

minor ore
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Yea welcome to autocorrect

tame tide
thorn pier
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Yeah and it wouldn't mean anything anyway.

pulsar yoke
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a lot of people talk about the morally gray area in SBR's antag/protag motives, but i think it really shines here, in jjl; i really cannot tell who is in the right here

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i feel like all sides are right, but there is only enough rokakaka for one party

fluid vessel
thorn pier
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The rock humans probably don't need it right now.

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But yeah for Jobin and Josuke, definitely. Except for the fact that Norisuke could sacrifice himself for Tsurugi, but that's not possibly for Holly.

minor ore
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I forgot about this

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So the families are linked

thorn pier
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Yeah.

minor ore
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Why don’t we know her family name probably irrelevant

white beacon
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It's... It's Higashikata

thorn pier
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Isn't it Higashikata?

white beacon
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It's just not written on the family tree because it's the one from the Higashikata book

minor ore
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Dummy moment

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Could the firstborn daughter of the joestars get the rock disease

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Well, we didn't get any first born daughters

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Rina got it but way later in her life

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It could be that women get it later and that's why they crossdress the boys

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Pretty strange how a family didn't have a first born daughter for like 7+ generations straight

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Also holly got it way later

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Kyo will probably get it too by this logic

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But really it’s extremely weird that the 2 women we’ve seen in the family have been sick from it (kyo too young to get it)

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It’s gonna come into play once we get the rock disease and rokakaka explained probably after the harvest or when tsurugi is cured

tame tide
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holly didnt get the rock disease

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she was/is just being tested on w/ the rokakaka

minor ore
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This makes me feel like she has it

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A symptom is loosing memories

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And turning into rock?

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She kinda is like that rn

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Bohemian rhapsody reffie there?

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Damn... Thought gappy had better taste in music....

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Also women in the higashikata family can have the disease

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It’s just that you have to be the firstborn

tame tide
minor ore
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Where does it say that girls can’t get it

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They dress as girls to ward it off to later age

thorn pier
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It's never said that girls can't get it. But it's said that the firstborn boys get it, instead of saying that the firstborn children are.

queen fox
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it's to confuse the gay ghost

minor ore
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Rina had it

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She’s a girl

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They can get it

queen fox
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Rina had it?

minor ore
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Yea that’s how Johnny died

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He tried to cure her sent it to his son and then had to exchange with his son

queen fox
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well, it's never described as the curse, but it likely is

minor ore
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It may not be a "magic" curse

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Could just be genetic

queen fox
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it's likely a first child basis

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but since all the first children have been male

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a misconception arose

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cause they get it no matter what

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but Rina got it super late

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so it's likely not the curse

minor ore
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Jojolion could go so many ways

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Especially with the last few chapters

queen fox
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Jojolion is gonna be 32 voluemes

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I'm calling it

minor ore
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Or more who knows this is not ending

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I don’t see it ending in the 3 hours

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It would have to be some Bites the dust shit well

queen fox
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I don't thing so

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araki can pull off a multiple ending storyline if he wanted

minor ore
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We still have a lot of shit

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Wait ticket to rides ability is so close to the head doctors

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Directing misfortune at others and causing things to clash into them

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It has to be involved in some way

honest blaze
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Balenci balenci balenci balenci balenci balenci

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I thought ticket to rides ability was the tear blade thing

minor ore
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Multiple endings eh?

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Taking the evangelion inspiration to the next level

white beacon
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The tear blade is what's used to select a target for misfortune to happen on

thorn pier
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Love Train.

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It's called Love Train.

minor ore
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Love train.

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It's called love train.

kind sphinx
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Love Train.
It's called Love Train.

white beacon
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Love Train is the misfortune redirection barrier that Valentine gets when he has the corpse

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Keyword: redirection

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Ticket To Ride is the targeted misfortune direction tear blade that Lucy Steel gets when she has the corpse

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I may forget about pork pie hat kid, but I at least know the difference between these two

thorn pier
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Was Tsurugi actually a girl in the beginning or just something Norisuke said?

white beacon
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Probably part of the act of portraying tsurugi as a girl to ward off the curse

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Why did you mention Love Train by the way?

minor ore
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Probably planned to be a girl but switched for more intrigue

thorn pier
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Wait ticket to rides ability is so close to the head doctors
@minor ore

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Oh wait. I didn't know doing this pinged people. Fuck sorry.

white beacon
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They are right though

thorn pier
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Yeah except it's Love Train. It's called Love Train.

white beacon
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Love Train redirects misfortune, meaning misfortune goes to him first and then it transfers it somewhere. The Head Doctor has someone suddenly have misfortune upon thinking about pursuing him, no misfortune happens to him at all since only the mere thought can activate it. Ticket To Ride makes anyone who got hit by the tear blades to have misfortune happen onto them.

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Love Train and Ticket To Ride are two different abilities, from two different people

thorn pier
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What. I don't remember Ticket to Ride doing that.

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Oh fuck. I didn't read any of that lol

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Earlier.

minor ore
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Love train redirects misfortune???

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Epic skullgirls cross over when.....

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imagine

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ticket to ride is the corpses ability and love train is the ability valentine got for keeping the corpse (lucy) around

pulsar yoke
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i thought ticket to ride was the name of the arc and Love Train was the name of the ability

minor ore
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no love train is D4Cs Substand and Ticket To Ride is the corpses stand

pulsar yoke
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ah i see

minor ore
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HMMMMMM

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remember how the stand has blades? the head doctors

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i think they are like lucys tears

thorn pier
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Yeah I completely forgot about Ticket to Ride doing any of that. I just thought it allowed her to make the tear things and that was it.

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Also... I can't wait for the scene of Josuke shaving.

minor ore
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omg that would be so cute

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or the hato and joshu bathroom scene

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when they were joking around

remote sun
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do you think sailorboy’s theme will have bubbly noises

ebon rampart
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probably

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and some added bubble pop noises as well

minor ore
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Probably not

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Main character themes usually don't include ability motifs

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Exception being josuke with some "rewind" in the theme

deep jasper
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I kind of want a remix of part 4 Josuke's theme

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like how I want Jolynes theme to be a kind of remix of Jotaro's theme

simple kraken
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Josuke 4 and josuke 8 aren't really that similar as characters though

night moon
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yeah but ig itd be a cool gimmick

deep jasper
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yeah

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which is why it works less with the Josuke's than it does with Jotaro and Jolyne

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what about a theme that has like 2 musical styles conflicting, and then it blends together for the "chorus" or main part

minor ore
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Remix of jotaro's theme? We already have half of the part 4 ost

deep jasper
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i guess

minor ore
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I want something brand new

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^

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They're new characters

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They need new themes

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The new universe is so different it makes sense to make everything different

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Heck a different studio will be needed altogether

deep jasper
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i think you might be taking the different thing a little out of proportion

minor ore
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No he's right

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I mean making SBR alone

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Sbr and jjl will be a HUGE undertaking

deep jasper
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SBR maybe

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how would JJL be that huge?

minor ore
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JJL has even better art than SBR IMO

ebon rampart
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they gon make the horses in sbr cgi 🤮

deep jasper
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JJL practically mirrors part 4 in that it's all localized

minor ore
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It's larger than sbr too, or going to be

deep jasper
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SBR is gonna be hard because of the racing aspect of the part

minor ore
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JJL has to have detailed backgrounds

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Sbr has random patches of desert

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My 9 year old niece can draw sand dunes and mesas

deep jasper
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i mean

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for a majority of SBR yeah

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it's just desert

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theres also the city at the end

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the tundra

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the train

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the ocean

minor ore
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All of those are simple backgrounds

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Compared to cities at least

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Okay the city and ocean are gonna be pretty tricky

deep jasper
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I get that JJL is gonna be tricky

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but like i don't remember the city being that packed in JJL

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for some parts

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yeah

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but not all the time

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I'm sure David Pro can do it considering they did Rome and Naples

minor ore
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Also why tf we discussing backgrounds lmao

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Those are the easiest in animation

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The worst parts are the fatigue

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And since both sbr and jjl have unprecedented length they'd be a nightmare to animate at their current workflow

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The only way they'd even be manageable is splitting to 2 seasons, and we all know what that did for part 3's pacing

vocal mason
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I don't know what it did for part 3's pacing

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the pacing felt mostly the same

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some fights too long, others a good length

minor ore
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Most fights took too long

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It was a chore to go through

vocal mason
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it was a bit of a slog in the middle

lost slate
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It was the worst in the early parts of sbr

minor ore
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What was?

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At lot of things were worse in early sbr

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I love that raised eyebrow

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He looks great

vocal mason
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is that the new Volume cover

minor ore
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Yeah

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Like yeaaaah you know what's up

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The background is a reference to a painting

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Lemme link it

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Also whole lotta love

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Araki's coloration is amazig

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This is so ironic

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How is it called whole lotta love

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Sjsuskwnsnakhsjd

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Literally the darkest bunch of chapters

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Read up on the painting it may have some hints for the head doctor

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I-

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I love Araki. The artist looks like the Head Doctor

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He does doe

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Omg I just posted thisbekdksjd

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French!!

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Ok I'll be honest kind of an underwhelming cover

cold field
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is Part 8 almost over

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just curious

minor ore
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Yeah plot is almost done

cold field
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so literally at the final battle, cool

minor ore
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No

grizzled pilot
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who knows honestly

minor ore
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Not quite

cold field
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dang

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so not the end yet

minor ore
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Almost there though

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The endgame has already started

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We don’t exactly know, but many major plots are coming to a resolve

cold field
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what if Part 9 is about the invisible baby

minor ore
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I doubt it

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Nah it doesn't exist

cold field
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i have heard Part 9 might take place in Italy

minor ore
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False rumors

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I really wouldn’t want that

cold field
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damn

vocal mason
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Araki said he'd like to do another part in italy

cold field
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how about Part 9 takes place in Australia

minor ore
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Just something new and different

cold field
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if they dont do Australian JoJo i will try and attempt to make one myself

vocal mason
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Part 8 might be done in the next year or 2

minor ore
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Part 9 can take place in mars for all we know, it's completely unknown where the plot goes next

vocal mason
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generous estimate

minor ore
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Part 7 took place in America but it had a spaghetti Western setting which was fairly unique

cold field
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i guess Part 8 is taking that long due to the monthly issues instead of weekly?

minor ore
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Yeah

cold field
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that sucks

vocal mason
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SBR ran from 2004 to 2011

simple kraken
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No it's better

minor ore
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But monthly means longer and higher quality chapters

cold field
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ah ok

simple kraken
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Yeah

cold field
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makes sense

vocal mason
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Part 8 time wise is currently the longest running part

minor ore
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Part 8 might end in 2022

vocal mason
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not that late

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maybe late 2021

minor ore
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2021-2022

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Then again I am biased since I love this part

vocal mason
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I feel like we have at the very least 15 chapters

cold field
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Part 9 should be a new take on Part 3

minor ore
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Part 8 is already doing elements of 3

vocal mason
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Dio is dead in this universe too

simple kraken
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That was kinda part 7

cold field
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ah ok

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so i guess something new for Part 9

tame tide
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id give it around 20 more chapters

vocal mason
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Have you read part 7 and 8 @cold field

minor ore
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Yeah i'll be incredibly sad having to say goodbye to all the beloved characters we saw for the last decade of jojo

cold field
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not yet

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im still up to Part 5

simple kraken
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Something new for part 9 would be great

vocal mason
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bruh

simple kraken
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Uh

vocal mason
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get on that reading grind from quarantine

cold field
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lel okey

minor ore
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Leave this chat >:(

simple kraken
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Actually idrc if part 9 takes place in italy or not

vocal mason
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also a chapter just released last week

cold field
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see you in less than a year then bwahahaha

minor ore
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I really would love a part set in the Middle East

simple kraken
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I really liked part 5's aesthetic in italy anyway

vocal mason
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there were HUGE spoilers for the latest chapter

minor ore
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Dealing with the conflicts there

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Part 3 was in the middle east

tame tide
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italy is cool but I wouldn't like another part in it

minor ore
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Yes but not fully

vocal mason
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there's not many locations you can go

minor ore
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Don't really think jojo is a good medium to explore complex issues like that

vocal mason
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assuming off of the family tree, the Joestars might have stayed in Japan

minor ore
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Part 5 kind of touched on the whole Mafia schtick

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Not that comprehensively though

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Obviously

tame tide
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it didn't really dive into it much unfortunately

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yeah

minor ore
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Jojo just ends with part 8, no part 9

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I wouldn’t mind this

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There you go

vocal mason
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I want to experience a new Jojo for the first time thopugh

minor ore
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Shouldn't have been a filthy gen z then!!!

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To be fair

tame tide
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waiting another 10 years for a part to end would be ass though

simple kraken
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Yeah

minor ore
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Most of us wouldn’t even know about Jojo back in the 90s and 2000s

vocal mason
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I can't help it if I'm a zoomer

minor ore
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What i believe would realistically happen is araki retiring after 8 and one of his apprentices taking over, similar to dragon ball

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Unless you lived in Japan

vocal mason
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I wouldn't like that

simple kraken
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I don't think it would be the same with an apprentice

vocal mason
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Araki is very distinct

minor ore
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Lots of people were aware of jojo but just part 3

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Due to the arcade game and OVA

tame tide
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jojo without araki would lose its charm

minor ore
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Super’s writing people say is way worse than DB

vocal mason
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Part 3 in japan is a classic Shonen

simple kraken
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Dragon Ball's writing wasn't the greatest anyway

minor ore
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Toyotarou was a fanfic writer anyways

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It wouldn't be the same, but it'd be more jojo

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Yeah it’s for bebes

vocal mason
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it would kind of be like if DP made their own part

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I'm sure it would be good but not the same

tame tide
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I dont want more jojo if it isn't written by araki tbh

simple kraken
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I wouldn't want more jojo without araki, I'd be fine with whenever he quits

kind sphinx
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I feel like JoJo could live on well without Araki. We'd lose the musical references likely, and the writing may take a hit, but it'd probably still be good. The art however...

minor ore
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They're not just gonna let a lucrative IP just go to waste

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People need to make money

vocal mason
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Araki has editors that clean up his art

simple kraken
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There are still 3 parts to animate though

vocal mason
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How big is Jojo in japan currently

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do they release sales numbers of Jojolion ever

simple kraken
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Not as big as it was

minor ore
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Jojo is like one of the biggest manga

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Araki has various apprentices that he trained throughout his career, one of which worked on the part 5 anime

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But yeah

simple kraken
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Idk

minor ore
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Jojolion was barely in the Top 50 recently someone told me

vocal mason
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I kind of feel like they let Jojo keep running because it's iconic

minor ore
#

Jojo fell in popularity since the old days

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Nah Araki still loved Jojo when he was making JJL

vocal mason
#

part 3 was peak popularity I think

simple kraken
#

Well yeah it's a monthly seinen now

minor ore
#

He had plans for a sequel to SBR

#

SO, sbe and jjl gradually decayed in numbers

vocal mason
#

I'm not saying araki I'm saying Jump Comics

tame tide
#

part 5

vocal mason
#

apparently on Shonen jump they vote off series

kind sphinx
#

Funny that as Japan falls in popularity, it rises in America

simple kraken
#

Well SO wasn't super well received in japan and Iirc SBR wasn't actually advertised as jojo part 7

minor ore
#

Shonen jump is a dumpster fire

kind sphinx
#

Funny that as Japan falls in popularity, it rises in America

vocal mason
#

yes it was, just not in the beginning

kind sphinx
#

Funny that as Japan falls in popularity, it rises in America

simple kraken
#

Yeah that's what I meant

minor ore
#

That happens with a lot of franchises

simple kraken
#

Yeah that's what I meant

tame tide
#

thats just because we're finally getting proper translations

simple kraken
#

Well japanese stuff is rising in popularity here as a whole

minor ore
#

Yeah anime has become more mainstream than ever

kind sphinx
#

Sadly

minor ore
#

The part 5 anime is now legitimately mainstream

kind sphinx
#

And now we get liveaction animes

#

it's annoying

minor ore
#

I remember the days when nobody my age knew what anime was

vocal mason
#

nothing wrong with anime being mainstream

minor ore
#

Yeah Tiktok

vocal mason
#

more people to enjoy it

minor ore
#

True

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And also more toxic fans

kind sphinx
#

The problem is we'll corrupt it

simple kraken
#

And jojo has a really dedicated fanbase so it's no surprise that something with tons of Western elements would become popular in the west

kind sphinx
#

Censoring it, Americanizing it

minor ore
#

Like what happened with this fanbase

vocal mason
#

genuinely not wanting something to get popular is a toxic mindset

kind sphinx
#

It'll lose that anime style

simple kraken
#

China does the whole censoring thing

#

Well Avatar is really good

minor ore
#

I guess it’s probably because people go to media like anime in the first place because it’s different and unique

vocal mason
#

if you call localizing stand names "censoring" ig lmao

simple kraken
#

Castlevania isn't bad either

#

Those are both western made

minor ore
#

And then when it becomes mainstream it loses that charm

#

Nope, unwelcoming fanbases are toxic but just hoping things don't get popular is pretty normal

kind sphinx
#

I call censoring sexuality, violence, language, humor etc. censoring

#

If it grows in America we'll censor it

vocal mason
#

not really

tame tide
#

not liking something just because it's mainstram is stupid

vocal mason
#

its really easy to find uncensored anime

simple kraken
#

yeah I hate when they don't give 15 year olds massive tits

vocal mason
#

America isn't known for censorship dog

#

at least in media

minor ore
#

I like plenty of mainstream things while disliking their fanbases

#

The more popular something is the more ravenous the fans will be

simple kraken
#

Yeah for sure

minor ore
#

Certain anime were always extremely mainstream

#

Akira, Dragonball, Ghost In The Shell, Ultraman, Cowboy Bebop, etc

#

Evangelion

vocal mason
#

and none were censored lol

minor ore
#

Dragonball was censored

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Heavily

vocal mason
#

originally

minor ore
#

damn i can't even imagine a world where dragonball isn't a household name

vocal mason
#

for kids tv

#

now its easy to find shit uncensored

minor ore
#

It's like imagining video games without mario

#

Yeah everyone knows who Goku is or at least heard of him

#

Especially in latin american countries

simple kraken
#

One of the fastest dudes in the world dyed his hair silver after ultra instinct goku

minor ore
#

Speaking of Part 5’s “mainstream” popularity, all these part skippers

#

Watching VA before any other part

#

I mean go ahead, but still

#

Part skipping is great

tame tide
#

people can consume jojo how they want

simple kraken
#

Part 5 can be watched out of context but I highly wouldn't recommend it

minor ore
#

Yeah people can do what they want

#

It won’t affect me

#

But man don’t jump into serious Jojo discussions having part skipped

#

I wouldn't have even considered completing jojo if i was forced to go through part 1 for some kinda internet bragging rights

#

I have many part skipping friends

#

My order was 2 > 4 > 3 > 1

simple kraken
#

It's easy to read part 7 without having read any of the other parts

minor ore
#

Part 7 is a glorious masterpiece in itself

kind sphinx
#

off topic but people complain about JoJo padding in P3 but at least it isn't like the other shonens

Watching MHA is a pain and I know older shows were worse

young meteor
#

I watched part 2 first and then part 1 🙂

minor ore
#

Really any part is easy to pick up

#

They were designed that way

#

If you read the manga first, you can skip around

#

Ever notice how each part starts with a stand explanation?

#

More power to manga readers

simple kraken
#

Yeah but I don't think 1-3 should be read/watched out of order

#

It wouldn't make too much sense stort wise

young meteor
#

We already got spoiled before watch or read jojo because of memes

minor ore
#

A part skipper can always make up for their sins by reading the manga from square one

#

God no

#

Part 1 manga is disgusting

young meteor
#

Tiny head Jonathan

minor ore
#

Oh yeah while you get Torture Danc’d

simple kraken
#

I don't like part 5 and 6 noses

minor ore
#

Diamond shaped ♦️

kind sphinx
#

So far I've done 1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-1-2-3

minor ore
#

Well to be fair those noses you can find in part 4 too

kind sphinx
#

Rewatches and stuff

minor ore
#

Forcing people to go through part 1 is like forcing people to listen to 90s demo discs of daft punk before enjoying RAM

simple kraken
#

Yeah but in the anime they aren't that obvious

young meteor
#

Part 3 shoulders even worse than part 5 noses

simple kraken
#

I didn't notice them as much as part 5 noses

minor ore
#

Part 5 noses are neat

simple kraken
#

I really liked the way the eyes were drawn in part 5 tho

minor ore
#

Part 4 anime noses are really unique

#

They're all fleshy but still cute somehow

#

I personally like sameface

#

Yeah no problem with sameface as long as the general design differentiates the character

#

Also araki is NOT the only japanese mangaka with sameface, practically the entire industry suffers from it

simple kraken
#

Sometimes I feel like the sameface isn't the greatest but other times I really like how nice the characters look

minor ore
#

I genuinely have no idea how people can keep track of characters and remember then from several different animes over the years

simple kraken
#

Also jjl barely even has any at this point

#

I have a good memory so it's not that hard

#

I can understand if people can't though

minor ore
#

They all start to look the same after a certain point

simple kraken
#

Especially with the fucking self insert characters

minor ore
#

At least with jojo it has a unique aesthetic

#

When you see giorno there's just no forgetting him

simple kraken
#

yeah the clothes and hairstyles make everything stand out

minor ore
#

Even the faces

#

The striped nose and luscious lips are unique to jojo

#

I'm glad it's starting to be known for that more than muscly big dudes

#

That's way less memorable

#

Yeah it’s jarring when Jotaro is only 185 lbs but looks like a freaking truck

simple kraken
#

Those are a product of their era

minor ore
#

Not to mention he is 195cm, so he should not look that jacked at that weight in Part 3

simple kraken
#

He's only 185? Holy shit that's way too little

minor ore
#

Glad araki was able to find his own artstyle

#

Unless Araki meant 185 kg which I highly doubt

#

185kg is inhuman

#

That's obese territory

young meteor
#

He is inhuman SpitSipSpit

minor ore
#

Unless you are some bodybuilder on steroids

simple kraken
#

my 600lb life

minor ore
#

Like the Mountain

#

But that is an ugly build

#

or a midwestern american grandpa

#

Josuke I think weighs the same as Jotaro so technically he is more muscular

young meteor
#

Is it just me or I do think that Jotaro part 4 is taller than himself in part 3?

minor ore
#

Hmm

#

I don’t think his height has changed

#

You can still grow past 17

deep jasper
#

nah

young meteor
#

Hmmm, ok it's just me

deep jasper
#

it's him being slim

minor ore
#

^

#

Slimmer you are, the taller you look

simple kraken
#

Imagine 6'5 giorno

young meteor
#

He's being slim but grow taller imo

minor ore
#

He's portrayed as being taller but i think it's just to emphasize his role as a mentor

#

Kakyoin looked way taller than he should have been

#

The dude is only 178cm

#

Honestly the tall and slim look suits him better

#

Can't imagine midget kakyoin

#

178 is fairly average and actually kind of tall for a Japanese person at that time

#

!!!

#

I think i might be shorter than that

#

The true midget was me all along

#

It’s like the height of most men

#

Lol

simple kraken
#

I wanna know gappy's official height

minor ore
#

Probably 180

#

Like Jo4uke

#

2 meters tall

deep jasper
#

There was a pretty funny little post on shitpost crusaders estimating his height

minor ore
#

Someone said he was 170

#

lol

#

NO

young meteor
#

lol

minor ore
#

AAAAAAAAA

young meteor
#

That's short

minor ore
#

Based on when he was standing next to Yasuho

simple kraken
#

It says gappy is "above average height" on the wikia

young meteor
#

He's 190 maybe

minor ore
#

Yeah and 180 is a few cm above average

#

180 is pretty good

#

In Japan most men average 172cm

#

However younger Japanese guys are fairly tall

#

It isn’t rare to see guys in the 180-190cm range

#

Gappy is as young as they get

#

Literally just born

simple kraken
#

Holy shit you're right

#

He's literally like a year old

#

Technically

minor ore
#

What would his age be?

#

I know a Japanese guy who is 2 meters

young meteor
#

19

#

Tf 2 meters

minor ore
#

2 meters is slenderman height

#

Inhuman

young meteor
#

True

deep jasper
#

Josuke is supposed to be 19

young meteor
#

But these people exist

deep jasper
#

it makes sense since Josefumi was 19

simple kraken
#

Yeah

minor ore
#

Yao Ming is 2.24m

#

And the tallest in the NBA was 2.33m

#

The tallest man lived in the 50s iirc

#

He had walking issues

#

Nah early 1900s like the 10s and 20s

#

Robert Wadlow (2.72m)

#

He was born 1918, died 1940

#

Rip

young meteor
#

Almost 3 meters

minor ore
#

Yet One Piece loves making these gigantic ass characters

#

One piece be goofy like that

#

Or should i say...

#

One piece be luffy

#

I'm not sorry

young meteor
#

One piece characters are all in the weird shape

minor ore
#

Makes the designs way more memorable

#

I think the tallest character in Jojo was Bruford

#

Shortest is Koichi obviously

#

Shortest wasn't shigechi?

young meteor
#

Shigechi ig

minor ore
#

POOR TOM

#

Lol I am just joking

young meteor
#

OOOO

simple kraken
#

shortest was fetus lady

minor ore
#

Lots of small characters

#

Tsurugi too

simple kraken
#

sex pistols

young meteor
#

Green baby

minor ore
#

Green baby was smoll

#

Shrunken Narancia

#

Regular narancia

#

He was pretty stubby in the manga

#

Narancia is 170cm which is small but not weird in parts of Southern Italy for guys his age

#

I mean mostly the way he way illustrated

#

Yeah he is depicted to be fairly small

#

Like the rest are not much taller than him

#

But he looks so small next to them

#

Risotto is apparently huge

#

The tallest in part 5

young meteor
#

Not Diavolo?

minor ore
#

I think so yeah

#

Risotto is 186cm

#

Diavolo looks 191cm

#

Abbachio cones in second place

#

Yeah he is 188cm

simple kraken
#

Wait diavolo is that tall?

minor ore
#

Yeah he looks a head taller than most of the cast

#

I remember seeing a chart with all the characters lined up based on length

#

Diavolo wasn't on it

#

And risotto was number 1

#

Wiki lists him as 186

#

185*

#

So diavolo is the tallest human in jojo?

#

Other than bruford that guy is a beast

#

Yeah they inaccurately labeled Risotto as 195

#

So they drew him taller than everyone else

#

Lmao

azure canopy
#

Risotto was a fucking giant afaik

minor ore
#

195 risotto is better

#

It fits perfectly

#

In SBR Valentine’s height was weird

young meteor
#

How tall was he?

azure canopy
#

some sources say 185

#

and others 202

young meteor
#

Oh damn

minor ore
#

I would wager 194cm

azure canopy
#

I think 202 is right

minor ore
#

Most US presidents have been at least 178cm

#

Lincoln was the tallest

#

202 is insane

young meteor
#

202 is 2 meters tf

azure canopy
#

but still possible

minor ore
#

Mountain Tim was pretty tall

#

That's basketball player length

azure canopy
#

wait no

#

208 according to jojofandom

minor ore
#

Gyro looks well over 180cm

#

Imagine a 208 man crawling out of the white house

azure canopy
#

for risotto

minor ore
#

What source is this

#

His bodyguards forming human ladders just to cover him

azure canopy
#

Risotto is 208 according to jojofandom

minor ore
#

Lol I doubt Risotto is that tall

#

That is 6 feet and 10 inches

#

Yeah 195 sounds alright for risotto

young meteor
#

208 is too tall for him

minor ore
#

Huh tall presidents would actually be a disadvantage

#

They'd be EASY assassination targets

azure canopy
#

he's the tallest in part 5 for sure

simple kraken
#

not if they have a stand

young meteor
#

^

minor ore
#

I mean irl

young meteor
#

Oh ok

minor ore
simple kraken
#

Giorno still has a lot of time to grow

minor ore
#

True, but most people who are 195cm are usually 180 around his age

#

He will probably end up at Josuke’s height

young meteor
#

How old was he again? 15?

simple kraken
#

Yeah

young meteor
#

I feel like 175 is too tall for 15 y.o.

minor ore
#

I was that height at 15

simple kraken
#

Same

azure canopy
simple kraken
#

A year later and I'm still that height lmao

azure canopy
#

bruh Diavolo is G I A N T

minor ore
#

That chart looks inaccurate

simple kraken
#

Holy shit diavolo is nearly jotaros height

azure canopy
#

the chart looks right imo

minor ore
#

I remember I read a manga series where the entire main cast was at least 2 meters

#

It was about sumo wrestling or something

azure canopy
young meteor
#

Wasn't expect Tiziano is 192

winter ridge
#

hes taller than jotaro O_O

young meteor
#

Yep

ocean mirage
#

i'd love to be doppio, imagine growing that much with a disorder

winter ridge
#

oh wait

minor ore
#

Jotaro is 195

azure canopy
#

Jotaro is 195

winter ridge
#

i thought he was 190

young meteor
#

Oh lol

azure canopy
#

ora man is still up there

ocean mirage
#

jotaro is tall

minor ore
#

In Stone Ocean literally all the females are taller than most girls I know

azure canopy
#

yeah

ocean mirage
#

how tall is jolyne?

#

like 165?

minor ore
#

175

ocean mirage
#

oh

minor ore
#

She is taller than Giorno

azure canopy
#

175

#

yeah

young meteor
#

165 is average height for females

#

But she's above average

azure canopy
#

yep

ocean mirage
#

she has jotaro's gene

minor ore
#

Anasui is barely taller but he is drawn much taller

#

Weather Report was the tallest in the SO cast

azure canopy
#

ok so found this

#

WR 189

#

Diavolo 193

minor ore
#

Johnny is definitely not 164

#

I know he is a jockey but

azure canopy
#

he's below average for sure

#

I'd say 170

minor ore
#

It is tough to say

#

Oh yeah Polpo was huge

winter ridge
#

why the heck did they pick that image for jolyne

azure canopy
#

no idea

winter ridge
#

i barely recognised her

azure canopy
#

wondering the same

honest blaze
azure canopy
#

what

#

why

young meteor
#

🤨

honest blaze
#

Because its par5 and 6 talk?

azure canopy
#

we're comparing everyone's height

minor ore
#

This discussion started because we were interested in JJL character heights

young meteor
#

We're allowed to talk that here

minor ore
#

We can discuss any part here

honest blaze
#

Talking part 5 and 6 in the part 8 channel

#

Makes sense

azure canopy
#

bruh

#

we're talking all parts in general

honest blaze
#

That would be jojo general then

azure canopy
#

it's already goin on here

minor ore
#

Bruh don’t be pedantic

azure canopy
#

it doesn't harm you

honest blaze
#

Its annoying?

#

Jojolion talk is for jojolion

#

Not golden wind and SO

azure canopy
#

we were also talking SBR and JJL

honest blaze
#

Im just tryna follow the rules my guy

azure canopy
#

look if you wanna talk about smth related to JJL go ahead and we change theme

young meteor
#

People talked the other parts here and no one interfere lol

honest blaze
#

Ive seen no recent mention of a single jjl character

#

Historia rules are rules

young meteor
#

Fine

honest blaze
#

Im just letting you guys know i dont want you guys warned

azure canopy
#

no one is gonna warn us

#

this isn't harmful

#

if anyone wants to talk about JJL they literally can just say it

minor ore
#

Lol why are you calling the admin/owner that

azure canopy
#

and we'll most likely change themes

#

you know they most likely have logs right?

#

not like deleting stuff will save you if they find out

honest blaze
#

Most likely not ones that show the messages

minor ore
#

It's worse to be pedantic than let people innocently go off tangent

#

But whatever

azure canopy
#

Dyno shows messages

#

and they have Dyno

honest blaze
#

I just dont want yall being forced to leave because you guys made a mistake

#

If i was the owner i could care less

azure canopy
#

you said it bothered you like 5 mins ago

honest blaze
#

Yeah it bothers me that i get talked to about it and not you guys

minor ore
#

The rules say you can discuss any previous part in a discussion channel

azure canopy
#

well it seems we're not breaking rules anymore

honest blaze
#

I see that now

#

My fault my fault

#

just refrain from spoilers

azure canopy
#

bruh how come

minor ore
#

Joshu has to be like 176cm

honest blaze
#

Thats literally in the rules

young meteor
#

People that don't want spoilers shouldn't be here

azure canopy
#

exactly

minor ore
#

But he looks almost the same as Josuke in EOH

honest blaze
#

People could have read 8 and not read 7 etc

azure canopy
#

then that's their problem

minor ore
#

They shouldn't do that

honest blaze
#

Literally in the rules

minor ore
#

Lol

azure canopy
#

same universe, we might talk about SBR past that links to JJL

minor ore
#

Why would anyone skip Part 7

honest blaze
#

Because people are dumb

azure canopy
#

Well that's not our problem!

minor ore
#

They shouldn't even be reading Jojolion

azure canopy
#

if they come here without reading previous part, it ain't our problem

honest blaze
#

Well jojolion is the best looking part aesthetically wise, they coulda just skipped to it

azure canopy
#

we might need to talk about previous parts to make theories

minor ore
#

Most people say Jojolion is worse than SBR

azure canopy
#

or talk about whose counterpart is who

#

bruh we can't avoid previous part spoilers

#

it ain't our problem if people didn't read them

#

just cut it man

minor ore
#

I don't even know the point of this discussion

azure canopy
#

yeah the convo is killed at this point

minor ore
#

Someone else's ignorance is not our issue; if they part skip, that is their fault

azure canopy
#

^^^^

young meteor
#

^^^^

azure canopy
#

ok

#

we might continue

#

Joshu looks about Josuke's height tho

honest blaze
azure canopy
#

a bit less

honest blaze
#

Joshu definitely seems shorter

azure canopy
#

about parts after part 5...

ocean mirage
#

joshu is like 200cm

azure canopy
#

otherwise like what? we can talk about part 3 but not about part 4 in part 5 chat?

honest blaze
#

pertains to the conversation and does not spoil

azure canopy
#

oh my god, it's common sense at this point

minor ore
#

Sometimes Hato looks taller than even Josuke

#

But she also wears heels

azure canopy
#

that should watch/read the parts previous

#

like Gaqia said

#

but anyway

#

Hato doesn't look taller

ocean mirage
#

i think that their sizes do stay constant throughout the part

azure canopy
#

imo

honest blaze
#

Bro its literally in the rules if you dont like it talk to the owner

#

Fucks sake

minor ore
#

Well she looks nearly as tall as Josuke sometimes

honest blaze
#

How hard is it to follow a rule

#

You fucking imbecile

minor ore
#

Bruh

azure canopy
#

bruh

minor ore
#

Calm down

young meteor
#

No need to be rude

honest blaze
#

Its just annoying when people go against the rules because of their opinion

azure canopy
#

it's literally everyone's opinion but yours at this point

honest blaze
#

Wanna ask all 1000 members?

azure canopy
#

no, but we can guess that it is, since countless times people have talked about SBR here for obvious reasons

#

aka same universe

#

linked events

honest blaze
#

Same universe, i get that one

#

But you guys were discussing 5 and 6

minor ore
#

what’s going on in here

honest blaze
#

And then got pissy when i asked to move it

azure canopy
#

We were literally discussing the heights of people

#

how spoiling

minor ore
#

Who is going against the rules

honest blaze
#

I didnt say spoiling

minor ore
#

???????

honest blaze
#

I said dont spoil and you guys caught an attitude

ebon rampart
#

basically what happens if you cut off 2 of josuke’s balls and then he unfuses. Will jotaro have no balls and kira have 2 or will it be the other way around? O will they have 1 ball for both of them?

ocean mirage
#

uh what

minor ore
#

People who have read all the parts up until 8 have the privilege to talk about the rest

tame tide
#

what

ocean mirage
#

hold on

azure canopy
#

@minor ore We were discussing all the character's heights, and andy comes to say we should talk about them in their respective parts because we were mostly talking about part 5 and 6 at some point

honest blaze
#

Thats some people not all are like that

ocean mirage
#

we have to address what scatterix just said

honest blaze
#

Carco wouldnt have made different channels for different parts if that was the case

minor ore
#

PES2_Weird you can talk about any part in here

honest blaze
#

I know that i said its fine

tame tide
#

it depends which balls you cut off

azure canopy
#

YEAH

honest blaze
#

What he left out haku is, i said just dont spoil

#

And he got pissy about it

minor ore
#

If you cut off his balls, that may not do anything

honest blaze
#

Even though its in the literal rules

minor ore
#

you can also spoil other parts in here since this is jojolion chat

#

lol

azure canopy
#

what if we wanna talk about part 7 events?

honest blaze
#

That makes absolutely no sense

young meteor
#

jojolion is basically jojo gen spoiler

azure canopy
#

we just go to the part 7 chat and then back here?

ocean mirage
#

if you cut half of josuke would he become either josefumi or kira?

azure canopy
#

we have to god damn switch channels to talk spoilers

honest blaze
#

Why would you talk about the old universe in part 7 and 8 channels

azure canopy
#

for the love of god

honest blaze
#

No kudson you dunce

tame tide
honest blaze
#

Part 7 has a lot to do with 8

azure canopy
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Character counterparts

honest blaze
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So its fine to spoil

minor ore
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What even is this argument

ocean mirage
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but how would they unfuses

tame tide
honest blaze
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But part 5 and 6 have no correlation to 7 and 8s story and here you are getting mad when i asked you to move it

ocean mirage
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like they unravel?

azure canopy
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but still, if you're in part 8 chat, everyone assumes you've read everything else

tame tide
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ig they just each get their stuff back

azure canopy
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because that's the most logical approach

honest blaze
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There should be no reason to discuss the old universe in the new universe chat

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Thats why theyre SEPERATE

azure canopy
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character counterparts

honest blaze
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Counterparts are nothing