#jojolion

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supple totem
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i think i stopped watching one piece at first episodes where luffy beat the shit out of Cody

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to safe him

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shit scared me

toxic sphinx
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HEY

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who touched yasuho when she fell into the underground room

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oh and how did tsurugi knows yasuhos stand name? i never saw it get mentioned

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oh and how did tsurugi know that jobin shaved his left eyebrow when he used paper moon king on that dainenjiyama guy

young meteor
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Tsurugi saw Jobin when he and Yasuho hid in the car

minor ore
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so i rewatched shucks emerald splash video

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is speed king really that fast?

young meteor
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How fast?

minor ore
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to outspeed the emerald splash

drifting saffron
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Like how yusaho refers to josuke's penis as "the rod"

minor ore
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rod, member, penis, dick

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it has a lot of names

drifting saffron
minor ore
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A penis has a lot of names

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This is a great conversation I stumbled into

fluid vessel
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damn his pp was too hard, it hurt yasuho

minor ore
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that josuke face though

vocal mason
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It took me a second to figure out what the fuck Doremifasolati Do was

noble haven
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What does it mean

vocal mason
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Do re mi fa so la ti do

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music scales

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also is there any word at all on Jojo's Colored Adventure

minor ore
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its based on the song

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form hawkwind

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doremi fasola tido

vocal mason
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I saw that on the wiki but still

minor ore
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i think thats how its called

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i mean

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urban guerilla is also a hawkwind song

vocal mason
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but yeah

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has Jojo's Colored had any news at all?

minor ore
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no

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only a statement about people asking

vocal mason
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what did they say in that

minor ore
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it will be done when its done

vocal mason
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ah, the classic

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"The Jojolion Scans have no Set release date"

noble haven
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the classic
"we will release it when we will"

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like give us a release date dude

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ok you wont release shit? thats good we have hi wa mata noboru anyways

vocal mason
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A release date encourages productivity

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or crunch

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depends on how you operate

minor ore
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you say it like its a bad thing

noble haven
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shut up carl

vocal mason
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well I mean crunch is bad for productivity

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and you might end up with a sup-par product

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but the colored scans are a volunteer effort so i'm sure the people working on it have actual lives outside of coloring manga

minor ore
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well yeah lol

vocal mason
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same energy

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also if Soft & Wet can remove one trait from anything couldn't Josuke just fuckin remove the function of a stand ability with his bubbles

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like with Brain Storm he could just match the bubbles to the blocks and take away the deadly effect

tame tide
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the authors notes are some of my favorite things about jojo lol

vocal mason
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I'm new to them since the JJCA scans don't have them

lost lion
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and yeah maybe the song "doesn't fit" too well but i don't care it's still a good song with a good trailer

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ok ngl it seems lamer than before diegolaugh

kind owlBOT
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@lost lion, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !

drifting saffron
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kinda gives me a "Chase" vibe from it

lost lion
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same

wild wave
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Man I love Urban Guerrilla, underrated villain.

night moon
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i love that song dude

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im an urban guerrilla i make bombs in my cellar

wild wave
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I should listen to more Hawkwind

exotic spade
young meteor
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Bruh

supple totem
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''the headocters true form cannot be grasped''

lost slate
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is that an earthbound reference?

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the fact that he's apparently a faceless horror is very reminicent of earthbound's final boss

lucid fiber
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It's also reminiscent of a million Eldritch beings

fluid vessel
lyric vale
trim jewel
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This is ny favorite part of jojolion

lost lion
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just realised born this way is a lady gaga reference i am dummy

fluid vessel
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thicc

lyric vale
minor ore
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GU>>>>BTW

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anyways kyo is gone so

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why does the new rokakaka look like that

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tomato, cactus fruit looking ass

upper knoll
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Fruit..............

minor ore
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am i the only one who thinks jobin's voice would sound like the singer from lemon demon lmao

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Yeah pretty much

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Alone

night moon
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neil cicierega

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?

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lol imagine jobin doing this

dusty kindle
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Joshu commits rape

minor ore
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Nah

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Just sexual assault

dusty kindle
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Ok nvm

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Also regular assault

daring bear
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Did you know joshu is the world record holder of the most restraining orders

dusty kindle
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Not if I have anything to say about it

delicate cedar
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is that a fucking challenge?

dusty kindle
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Yes

delicate cedar
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you're on boyo

north cosmos
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Gonna say it

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Josuke did NOT age well

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He looks like shit in jojolion

minor ore
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No one agrees

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And thats not aging, its artstyle change

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Aging would be judging p4 artstyle josuke exclusively

edgy mortar
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That's his opinion ig

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Plus hes prolly a newbie

supple totem
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i miss josuke with big front teeth :C

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i miss gappy

edgy mortar
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Might spoil things for him to annoy him

minor ore
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Hes still there lad

vocal mason
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Also Josuke in part 8 is a completely different character

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It's like saying "Johnathon in part 7 looks weird"

tame tide
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i think he meant josuke4 in p8 artstyle

vocal mason
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Ah ok

minor ore
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Why do you keep saying johnathon @vocal mason

split fern
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It's the Jonathan marathon!

kind owlBOT
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@split fern, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

split fern
vocal mason
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I thought that that guy was expecting the same Josuke in part 8,

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So I said johnathon l

minor ore
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But

vocal mason
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As a comparison

minor ore
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Bad comparison then

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Just gutting jonathan

split fern
vocal mason
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Does anyone else get the feeling that early in Jojolion that Jobin was meant to be the antagonist

young meteor
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Yeah

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I looked at this appearance first

minor ore
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nope

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i always saw him as a diego

vocal mason
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Him doing all the shady shit with the rock humans at first

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before that his appearance wasn't known

minor ore
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it was

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but very poorly drawn

vocal mason
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can you find it?

minor ore
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its the first panel where josuke is introduced to the higashikata

young meteor
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And uh also, all Higashikatas were introduced at the first chapters except Jobin and Kaato but Jobin only appears in cameo

minor ore
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kaato was in prison

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so

vocal mason
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damn

minor ore
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early jobin

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much more spiky

young meteor
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I forgot did they even mention Kaato at the first chapter?

vocal mason
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nope

minor ore
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kaato

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was

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in

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jail

vocal mason
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Norisuke never talked about her, remember

young meteor
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I know

vocal mason
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he told Daiya and Joshu she died

young meteor
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Ah, I forgot about that. But Hato still remember her

valid hare
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What do you mean he was supposed to be an antagonist? He still is

vocal mason
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main antagonist

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also I'm on like chapter 73

young meteor
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Main antagonist? You didn't said that earlier

vocal mason
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it's what I meant

young meteor
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If that's what you meant. I guess I'll answer no for your question before

minor ore
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he isnt the main antagonist

valid hare
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I think he’s set up to be the main antagonist

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From hhis introduction

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Up to now

minor ore
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hes a diego at best

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a rival

valid hare
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Nah

young meteor
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Nah, he ain't the main antagonist

vocal mason
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I know he's not the main villain I'm saying it feels like he was set up to be originally

valid hare
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I mean he could be

minor ore
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could = is

valid hare
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There’s many reasons to believe that I’m not gonna spoil more

minor ore
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we know the story lol

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and jobin only worked with the rock humans so he can get a rokakaka

valid hare
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I say that because he said he was at 73

minor ore
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either way

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the head doctor is looking like a villian

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its pretty much a sbr situation

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josuke = johnny
jobin = diego
head doctor = valentine

valid hare
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Yea he is a big vilain obviously but if you look at the main plot point, Jobin is the lost likely main vilain

minor ore
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the main plot is the chase for the rokakaka

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who the head doctor is in charge of

valid hare
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Exactly

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Who has it?

minor ore
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how is jobin the main villian then

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its like damo

valid hare
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Johnny wanted the holy corpse, Valentine had it, he was the main vilain

minor ore
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he came to get back at josuke and now the doctors back to get his rokakaka back

valid hare
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Josuke wants the rokakaka, and jobin has it

kind owlBOT
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@valid hare, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

minor ore
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jobin wants the rokakaka to save tsurugi

valid hare
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Yea

minor ore
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josuke wants the rokakaka to save holy

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its a rivalry between who gets it

valid hare
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Valentine wanted the corpse to save his country

minor ore
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while the doctor is there to take it back

valid hare
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Like I don’t know who’s going to be the final boss, but Jobin is set up as the main vilain, also with us seeing his past and his philosophy

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In a similar light as with the other series vilains

minor ore
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we also saw diego's past and philosophy

near cedar
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If the Doctor is the main villain then it be cool to see Jobin and Josuke team up to take him out

minor ore
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and he wasnt the main villian

valid hare
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Idk I mean we’ll have to see but I think because Jobin has what Josuke wants he’s the one really in his way

minor ore
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theres a difference between the duality of characters and rivalry

near cedar
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He has it for the moment

minor ore
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jobin and josuke are rivals as they have the same goal

near cedar
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The Doctor might take it away

minor ore
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get the fruit to save a loved one

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the doctor is there to take back his fruit as it was stolen

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also villians tend to have a trend with sending henchmen

valid hare
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It’s normal for the main character and vilain to have the same goal

minor ore
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which jobin does not

valid hare
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Anyway we’ll see when it’s revealed I guess

minor ore
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its the head doctor

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hell jobin worked for him like diego worked for valentine

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he got what he wanted and has now betrayed him

noble haven
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the head doctor is probably another damo

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jobin seems close to the main villain but I guess we'll see

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he does sound much like a Diego though

brave sentinel
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I doubt Jobin is the main villain

night moon
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what if there isnt a main villain

brave sentinel
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The main villain is araki

minor ore
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The main villain was the friends we made along the way

vocal mason
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when Jojolion ends the last panel will just be "Gotem there is no villain"

north flame
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Head doctor is cioccolata tier

minor ore
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deifnitely not

brave sentinel
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The main villain will probably be either the head doctor or someone closely associated with the head doctor

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I think

tawny mist
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I'm pretty sure its the head doctor

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he's the guy in charge and everyone freaks out when he shows up

brave sentinel
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That means nothing

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And we don’t know if he is in charge

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Their could be someone above him

old marlin
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Head Doctor

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Head

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Doctor

tawny mist
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that probably would have been established by now lad

old marlin
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Hes the one in charge

brave sentinel
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Nope

tawny mist
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and yeah he's the HEAD doctor

brave sentinel
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He is the head doctor at the hospital

old marlin
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Oh you're doing some stupid semantics arguement

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Where the one in charge of the Rokakaka business is the head honcho to you

brave sentinel
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The main villain is holly

old marlin
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Yeah okay

brave sentinel
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Shut the hell up you’re annoying yare yare daze ora ora yareyaredaze

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I still don’t think head doctor is the main villain

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Or jobin

old marlin
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Thatd just be really shitty writing if neither of them ended up being the final obstacle, considering theyve both been substantially built up

brave sentinel
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It would be fantastic writing

tawny mist
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haha yes it was me

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pucci 2 the whole time

brave sentinel
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Like one of those m night shamolon films

cyan viper
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oh fricc

night moon
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what if head doctor's stand controls destiny the way mih did

brave sentinel
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Hoping for a Joshu appearance in the next chapter

minor ore
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he uh

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he did appear in chapter 93

night moon
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yeah he was like

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woo dad

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we can do this

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off to go sexually assault a college student

vocal mason
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Right now Joshu was very concerned with the Shrinkflation of fish sausages

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he probably is right though

tame tide
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i want to see what the fuck is up with tooru soon

brave sentinel
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I never said he didn’t appear in 93

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I want Joshu in every chapter

tawny mist
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i want tooru to get hit by a bus and nobody to talk about it

vocal mason
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Poor Tom just got fucked

brave sentinel
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Right after he fucked

night moon
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i want joshu to never appear again

brave sentinel
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NO

vocal mason
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I have a question

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does Jobin's wife ever have any dialog at all

minor ore
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yes

tame tide
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yeah

vocal mason
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I can't remember

tame tide
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your next arc is gonna have a lot of mitsuba dialogue

vocal mason
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because I think she just despawned for the time being

night moon
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i have a question

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why do people like joshu

tawny mist
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he's a joke character

minor ore
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le epic funny ig

vocal mason
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idk he's more of a comic relief now than an annoying fucker

tawny mist
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his stand is really cool too

minor ore
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^

night moon
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i still hate him

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hes awful

tame tide
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hes grown on me

minor ore
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@night moon wow so one assault means he wants to assault everyone

vocal mason
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imagine having a stand named Nut King Call

minor ore
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not even intentional, he just thought yasuho liked him

tawny mist
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Nut King

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sounds like its the censored english name

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but its not

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I wonder if that was the reason

vocal mason
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I think it's name is just Nut King Call

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not for english or anything

minor ore
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still copyrighted name

vocal mason
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it has a localized name

minor ore
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even though the actual name is nat king cole

vocal mason
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strangely

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Nuts N. Bolts

tawny mist
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wait they still changed it?

vocal mason
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for the games

tawny mist
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I don't think they could get sued for Nut King Call

vocal mason
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but in Japanese its Nat King Cole

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hmm

minor ore
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im pretty sure its also just a name

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so now names are copyrighted

vocal mason
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I mean it depends on the person

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like if a stand was just named Prince

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nah not happening

tawny mist
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its a play on Nat King Cole

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it shouldn't be copyrighted

trim jewel
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Josuke and Joshu: Nuts and Bolts

vocal mason
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I like Josuke and Joshu's dual heat attack in EoH

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Josuke takes the friction from the ground and makes Joshu slip and hit the enemy

trim jewel
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Thats one of my favorites in the game

night moon
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@minor ore in my experience w sexual assault joshu would 100 percent do it again

trim jewel
minor ore
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jobin? holup

night moon
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am i

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genuinely

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stupid

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fuck why does jojo have to have so many j names

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fixed

minor ore
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Then youre just ignorant if youre this specific about joshu

noble haven
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How?

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How the fuck bon?

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It's very clear that Joshu would do it again if he gets the chance

minor ore
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By what evidence

noble haven
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That he assaulted Yasuho?

minor ore
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Woooooooww, he "assaulted" yasuho becausr he thought she was in love with him as she was hugging him

noble haven
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He did doe

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he literally used his stand to take off her clothes

minor ore
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He would most definitely rape her if they were alone in a room

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100% no doubt

noble haven
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You're probably being sarcastic but he would actually do that

minor ore
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By what evidence

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That scene was a consiquence of paper moon king

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Because he thought she wanted to bang

noble haven
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She wasn't laughing or getting into it

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iirc she was actually trying to push him away lol

minor ore
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Yes

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And he stopped when she mentioned josuke

noble haven
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No he fucking didn't

minor ore
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Then hit him with the toilet thing

noble haven
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She literally hit him on the head

minor ore
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Go reread the chapter then

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This is valentine all over again

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Show me evidence that joshu didnt back up from yasuho

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Ill wait

noble haven
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What chapter?

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Nah Valentine was worse

minor ore
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Paper moon king

noble haven
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He backed up because he was shocked lmao

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He would've continued if she didn't hit him

minor ore
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Because of what

noble haven
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That's what I think at least

minor ore
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Because he heard josuke

noble haven
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Because she mentioned the name Josuke

minor ore
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He backed off

noble haven
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He was shocked

minor ore
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And then she hit him

noble haven
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You act like he's gonna leave her alone lmfaoo

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Later he went on and bragged about what happened

minor ore
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Hm, i wonder what he does for the rest of the part

noble haven
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he wanted that shit to continue, if she didn't hit him he would've continued

minor ore
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What a shocker

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He doesent go after yasuho

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He doesent even get brought up until milargo man

noble haven
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He's not gonna chase after her all the time

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I'm saying if he gets the chance

minor ore
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Then why bring up these claims with no evidence

noble haven
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?

minor ore
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Thats like saying joseph would cheat 9 more times

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Because he cheated once?

noble haven
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he probably would

minor ore
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You know very well that it was a retcon

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A very bullshit one

noble haven
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But yeah cheating =/= sexual assault

minor ore
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Not my point

noble haven
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Doesn't even work as a comparison

minor ore
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My point is these claims have no evifence to support them

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Thus, invalid

noble haven
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I just showed you though

minor ore
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You showed me jack

noble haven
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that he assaulted Yasuho

minor ore
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You tried explanaining it

noble haven
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and later on he bragged about it

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I think that means he would do it again if he gets the chance

minor ore
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Whatever helps you sleep at night

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Youre pretty simpleminded huss

noble haven
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Yeah sure lmao because I said he'd do sexual assault again

minor ore
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No evidence

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Invalid

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Bragging about something doesent mean shit

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Lol

noble haven
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It does though

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He would've not brought it up

minor ore
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Maybe cause he saw josuke and he hates him?

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Cause thats the only time he brings it up?

noble haven
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Still not a good thing to brag about though

minor ore
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Just maybe?

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Braginng about having sex is a completely normal thing

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Not that you would know

noble haven
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Woahh you said I don't have sex

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Owned

minor ore
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Just saying you dont get with whats normal

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People brag about sex all the time

noble haven
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Didn't seem normal to me that yasuho was trying to push him away

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And literally in the end he got hit by the toilet thing

minor ore
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No but you completely mistook the scene and him braging

noble haven
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Did he get the sign that Yasuho absolutely doesn't want to have sex with him?

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Probably not since right after that he want to brag about it

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went*

minor ore
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Guess who he bragged to

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The person he hates

noble haven
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He still bragged about it

minor ore
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To josuke exclusively

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Because he saw it as normal sex

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Never the less both dont remember anything from that moment anyway

noble haven
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How did he see it as normal sex if Yasuho literally hit him????

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What

minor ore
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He literally doesent remember that he got hit

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Have you even read the panels?

noble haven
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Right

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Nah nah I remember now

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I mean tbh it's kinda like the guy who tried to get with Diego's mom but then she didn't accept

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But he didn't give her food the next day

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I guess we'll see if Joshu tries to do it again with Yasuho

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he seems pretty fucking dumb so I have a feeling he would again

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But we'll just see

minor ore
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Hate on him as much as you like

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That one scene was a clusterfuck due to yasuho's vision

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And joshu is different than before

noble haven
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Uhh

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Sure

minor ore
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Its in the panels

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I dont think you even read milargo man tbh

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You just saw joshu and skipped it

noble haven
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Not really

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Because I don't despise Joshu

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I just hate a few of his characterstics

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I don't know how to spell that

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but u get what I mean

minor ore
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Whatever the case its a batshit move to just state how he would try to rape her even though it wasnt in that mindset and that he would do it again cause he bragged about it

noble haven
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Alright let's just see for ourselves

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maybe it'll happen maybe it won't I don't know for sure

tame tide
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i really doubt itll happen again

minor ore
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It wont cause its not in that mindset

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Never was

noble haven
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like I said maybe it'll happen maybe it won't I'm not too sure

minor ore
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Youre not but its obvious that i wont

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It was just a huge misunderstanding

noble haven
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You won't what?

minor ore
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It*

noble haven
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Maybe

night moon
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joshu would’ve raped her.

minor ore
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Evidence @night moon

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sorry what did I just walk into

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Unnecessary shitting on joshu

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Necessary.

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So i guess youre on their side

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Well until you bring valid evidence your take is false

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What, Joshu tried to rape her in a bathroom, licked his sisters neck, tried to molest his mother, attempted to screw over Josuke on shakedown ave, and tried to kill Yasuho after seeing her with josuke for the first time.

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Is that enough?

tame tide
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the rape was a misunderstanding and the molest was to get her the fuck out of the house

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licking hato was just messing with her lol

minor ore
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Sure

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I often lick my siblings to mess with them

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Just like how I molested my mother to get her to leave

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Doesn’t really make it better does it?

tame tide
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she fucking killed a child

minor ore
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We are talking about Joshu here. I agree she is also a terrible person, but thats not the argument.

tame tide
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what

minor ore
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havbent read jojolion can someone spoil it for me

tame tide
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he knows shes a terrible person so he was using his weirdness to get her out

minor ore
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i dont wanna read sbr

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thats an interesting take

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Why wouldn’t you want to read SBR or JJL

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im really busy reading SO

tame tide
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they're prob baiting

minor ore
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cant read it all though because im reading SO

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cant read them at the same time

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Then finish SO and ho read SBR

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dont call me a ho

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@minor ore he didnt try to kill yasuho but josuke, the "rape" scene was a misunderstanding, very sure nut king call activated outside of his control, he wanted to get rid of kaato

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Points dismissed

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PFFFFTTTTTT

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hahahaha

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NKC activated on accident?

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Thats hilarious.

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Have you read shakedown road?

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Yes

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He wasnt controling it

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It activated on its own

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Joshu willing chose to also fucking abandon josuke.

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I wonder why

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Literally took the money and ran

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Maybe cause he is ruining his life?

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Joshu is ruining his own life, Josuke existing seems to get him so riled up that he loses all control

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“Hey Joshu! Go get your brother signed up for school!”

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Joshu then basically goes out and attempts to abandon him and leave him in the dust to take the aftermath of Shakedown Road

tame tide
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josuke is basically a stranger to joshu and he came up in his house and got joshu's room and shit

minor ore
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I wonder why

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Maybe cause he is ruining his life?

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Alright, wheres the evidence he is ruining his life? That can just as easily be disproved.

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LOOOL

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Now thats hilarious

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Lets start

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Joshu’s personality is the driving force in all of this.

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Josuke, a complete stranger is loved more than him in the family

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His bedroom belongs to josuke

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Yasuho loves josuke

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His sister loves josuke

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He is blamed for everything josuke related

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The family just respects josuke more than him

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And josuke is a complete stranger

noble haven
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lmao I agree on bon with this on e

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one

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Josuke is indeed ruining Joshu's life

onyx tangle
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Joshu had an opportunity to screw Josuke over during the Shakedown Road arc when he had the recording of Josuke, but he decided to delete it.

noble haven
minor ore
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This post is gold

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  1. He is adopted, he is being treated kindly. Doesn’t help that Joshu is dick to members of his family that arent Jobin.
  2. Norisuke did this for god knows why, this is a valid point.
    3/4) Joshu has to accept that Yasuho doesn’t love him, and can have other emotions. He can’t seem to do that.
  3. Often this only happens after he did something specifically to screw over josuke.
  4. Refer to One.
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Treated kindly

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Yet the first thing that happens is norisuke ordering daiya to erase his memories

tame tide
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he isnt really a dick to any of them

minor ore
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And no joshu loves his family

tame tide
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did you even look at the panels

minor ore
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Take the bathroom scene for example

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Him and haato are having a laugh

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Didn’t say the family doesn’t love him or that he doesn’t love them.

noble haven
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Guys was there a stand in part 8 that had puzzle pieces on it?

minor ore
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Like you stated, he licked his sister as a joke

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Neither did i say that

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Thats a fucked up thing to do even if you love someone

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I said the family loves and respect a stranger over their own son

noble haven
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Nvm I got it

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King Nothing

minor ore
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Outward appearance.

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He lives in the fucking garage

tame tide
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he genuinely cares abt them

minor ore
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They seem to love Josuke, but he is more of a bargaining chip. Its a minor ploy to keep him out of the mix.

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And again, I know this, I never said he didn’t

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Fuck i wish norisuke was alt old man joseph so much

tame tide
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you said hes a dick to his family who isnt jobin

minor ore
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Right, he is a dick, doesn't mean he doesn't care.

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Real emotion shows through in times of need

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He isnt

noble haven
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Well he doesn't need to be an alt old man Joseph, you consider him to be close to original Joseph right?

minor ore
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He even told daiya to go when kaato arrived

tame tide
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i like norisuke as he is

minor ore
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time of need, he was looking out for them.

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He put the good side up to protect them.

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@noble haven not necessarily, i just cosider norisuke and old joseph to be similar in a way

noble haven
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Exactly

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that's what matters

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he doesn't need to be a counterpart lol

minor ore
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Their stands are even more informstion gatherers

noble haven
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True

minor ore
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Thats a good connection between the two.

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I like that.

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Doesn't king nothing have a lot of purple in it's color scheme?

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Yeap

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Honestly i consider him a alt joseph with how he acts for the most part

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Except Joseph never dies, and Norisuke is in body bag if I remember correctly. (might be Yasuho tho)

tame tide
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its not yasuho

noble haven
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We don't know if Norisuke is dead though

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Also how is it Yasuho

minor ore
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missing an arm

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Its cause of the arm thing

noble haven
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at first I was going on with this theory but then I remembered how Paper Moon King worked

tame tide
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theyre cut at different places

noble haven
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Paper Moon King changes the perspective

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it doesn't change people's faces

tame tide
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yasuho is like upper bicep

minor ore
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didn't the first use of pmk cause faces to be the same tho...

noble haven
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Yes

minor ore
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It couldve been breaking the 4th wall

noble haven
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It changes the perspective of people's faces

minor ore
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With us being inflicted by paper moon king

noble haven
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Idk that seems like a stretch lol

minor ore
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Not really huss

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wouldn't be the first time a stand had effect on the reader

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It can change people into different people

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Even busses

tame tide
noble haven
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Lol is it me or does Norisuke's body looks

tame tide
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it looks like his is just above the wrist

noble haven
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small

tame tide
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it does lol

minor ore
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When did tsurugi get the strength to lift a full adult male

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stone disease make me strong!

tame tide
noble haven
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Anyone noticed how Tsurugi is all good now?

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when he was pulling Norisuke

minor ore
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F to my girl Yasuho

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This fuckin panel

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she deserved better

noble haven
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Araki has no chill lmao

valid hare
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Yea something is gonna heal Tsurugi very soon

minor ore
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better not fucking die on me

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Is more horrifying than joshu when he had water go through his head

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that was a terrifying scene

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felt bad for Joshu

tame tide
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i will cry for a week if she does

noble haven
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I dont think she dies because literally in the beginning of jojolion, it was shown that Yasuho was telling the story

minor ore
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What ghost don't exist in jojo?

noble haven
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basically a Koichi situation

tame tide
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a lot happens in jojo but a ghost wouldnt narrate

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you have a point

valid hare
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I never thought of it that way but I think you’re right

noble haven
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Koichi was telling the DiU story and he stayed alive till the end

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In fact Koichi also almost died like Yasuho

minor ore
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So therefore Yasuho must too?

noble haven
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When Kira donuts him

minor ore
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I mean, we've seen ghost talk before in JoJo, I don't see why Yasuho can't start off the story. Remi is literally a ghost and talks entire sentences and can tell her life story why couldn't another ghost do so?

tame tide
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reimi is a diffferent situation

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she was bound to the alley

minor ore
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And Yasuho can't be bound to something either? This is literally Morioh we are talking about.

tame tide
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whaat would yasuho be bound to

noble haven
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Yeah but Reimi wasn't telling the entire story of DiU

tame tide
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she was there for like 16 years too

minor ore
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Depends, she could be bound to the Higashikata estate. It's where she "died".

night moon
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btw i’m sorry for getting so worked up about joshu

tame tide
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thats stupid

minor ore
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Why so? She was murdered, had a injustice done to her than can still righted, and died not completing her goal. Seems like the kinda stuff a ghost would linger around in

night moon
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nah sorry i don’t think that’s gonna happen

minor ore
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I don't mind it being stupid, just give me a reason

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I don't think so either, but gotta be better than "thats stupid"

night moon
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  1. she’s narrating the story
minor ore
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we discussed that already

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it's why this started.

night moon
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wait shit really

minor ore
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yeah

night moon
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lol nvm ignore meeee

minor ore
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They said Yasuho couldn't die cause she was narrating

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and I responded, well what if she is a ghost?

tame tide
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theres literally no reason why she'd be bound to the estate

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narriatively

minor ore
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other than the fact she was murdered there and died because her friend abandoned her. but go off

night moon
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i think yasuho is going to play a bigger part in the story than just getting killed + becoming a ghost

minor ore
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I would think the same about Caesar Zeppeli but he died too and didn't come back, not even as a spirit in the sky.

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at least everyone else got to be a spirit in the sky.

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except diego and hot pants.

tame tide
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BT was written ~32 years ago

noble haven
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her becoming a ghost is a stretch

minor ore
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I agree, but there has to be a way to disprove it, otherwise you can't just say. "well Yasuho can't die because she narrated the beginning."

noble haven
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Why can't I

minor ore
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thats a bullshit excuse cause multiple time we've seen people narrate things even if they can't see it, know it, or hell, even be alive to narrate.

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fucking Joseph died and gave an entire speech to Jotaro.

tame tide
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thats not narration

noble haven
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Woah guys plot twist She's actually a ghost!

minor ore
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or hell if she isn't a ghost, why can't JJL just start as her memory, her take on the story from above? Why does she have to be alive to narrate, considering we've seen memories of things we shouldn't normally be able to see. Koichi narrated part 4 and never was in a lot of events or memories.

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Like how the hell would Koichi be able to tell, in perfect detail, the events of the "Let's Play Dice" story?

noble haven
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Josuke told him about it

minor ore
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Just because he started it, doesn't mean he has to tell everything.

noble haven
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Not everything, but imo it shows that she was alive during the whole part

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Like she doesn't have to be in every scene

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Just to like be there and narrate the events that happened to her

minor ore
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Thats a assumption that could be made, but I prefer to take it as, "She introduced us to the plot." and thats it

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no ghost magic

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no spirit narration

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just she started off the story

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and thats it

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For instance, How the hell would Yasuho know about Josefumi and Kira? No one other than Damo knew about that

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not even Josuke

tame tide
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what

minor ore
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if yasuho was narrating the entire part like you say, how would she know about Josefumi and Kira?

tame tide
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when did she say anything abt kira and josefumi

charred canopy
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Last jojo part?

minor ore
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If she was telling the story, then she'd have to know.

noble haven
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I literally just said that she doesn't need to know every single detail

minor ore
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Then by that logic she doesn't need to be alive to begin the story, if the story can just "tell itself."

noble haven
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??

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What?

tame tide
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youre confusing

noble haven
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Damo was the one telling the Josefumi and Kira situation

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What do you mean "tell itself" lmao

minor ore
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Well if she has to be alive to tell the story, but also doesn't need to be there to tell the story, why can't the story just tell itself, like any other part. It starts off with one person, and the events just play out, doesn't matter if someone is narrating the story. it's just being written.

noble haven
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Story... tell itself?

tawny mist
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i mean

minor ore
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like any book, the story doesn't need to have a narrator. The book just let's itself be read by you the reader.

tawny mist
#

it does that a lot

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like when we get random biology lessons in the middle of a chapter

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that's not any of the characters talking

noble haven
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that's the narrator

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there is a random narrator in jojo

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that we don't know the name of

tawny mist
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yeah so we don't need yasuho to narrate for us

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it makes sense for the chapters she's actually involved in

minor ore
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Exactly, If she has to be the narrator of JJL so therefore can't die, why does she have these random things that the "Narrator" only would know. Almost like she began the story, and let the narrator take it from there.

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After that chapter, it seems like it's no longer a story she is telling. She just introduced it.

noble haven
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Your ghost theory was wrong but this one makes more sense

minor ore
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My ghost theory was just pointing out how she could die and still narrate the beginning.

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Not something I put a lot of effort into, just how she could both start the story and die.

noble haven
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Yeah idk about that lol

minor ore
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anyway I'm going back to finishing up my SBR leitmotif

noble haven
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Nice

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send it btw

minor ore
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I will once I finish

tame tide
#

which song

minor ore
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I started off with Miserlou, and now I'm working on a mix of Tusk and High Voltage

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High Voltage plays when time is stopped.

tame tide
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nice

minor ore
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I always considered High Voltage to be one of my favorite arcs.

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So much happens in it

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Including the best part, Johnny's dad coming back to support him.

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gets me everytime

tame tide
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im still on the fence about that

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bitch ass saying god took the wrong son only coming back when he finished the race

minor ore
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I don't totally forgive him, but it's a heartwarming moment in jojo, and there isn't a lot of that.

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Especially in SBR

viscid pike
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GUYS IS YASUHO FUCKING DEAD I NEED RO KNOW

tame tide
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Well see next month

tawny mist
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too bad

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because nobody knows right now

minor ore
#

fucking sucks not knowing whats about to happen to Yasuho

viscid pike
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Bruh

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Like

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If she goes, okay. I'll be sad about it but I don't think she deserves to die drowning in the water Jobin shits in

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So fucked

simple kraken
#

Araki's thing has always been deaths that can happen anytime

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It wouldn't be too abnormal honestly

viscid pike
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But it always feels justified for some reason...

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Every good guy jobro death had something to offer no matter how tragic but like

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Well, except Narancia

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and Shigechi BUT YASUHO IS NOT A SHIGECHI

onyx tangle
#

Shigechi worked as a motivator for Josuke and Okuyasu as well as being their first lead on Kira.

brave sentinel
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Yasuho = Shigechi but uglier

night moon
#

rereading jojolion and man he set this shit up so well

trim jewel
#

Im still in P6, if Jobin the main villain?

tawny mist
#

there really isn't one

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he's more of a rival than a villain

trim jewel
#

Ok, alot of people tells me either or

lucid fiber
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We just don't really know yet but I would argue what he did recently firmly plants him as a villain

bright hedge
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P7 and P8 are more about a clash of ideals rather than hero and villain

trim jewel
#

Ok, i will have to see when I get there

night moon
#

im not gonna lie kira is the most beautiful man in jojo

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like part 8 kira

brave sentinel
#

part 4 Kira lookin kinda hot too

night moon
#

i think the long black hair and the cat eyes get me

brave sentinel
#

yeah

#

but

#

Joshu is always the hottest

#

most beautiful being in all of jojo

#

what a beautiful character

#

chew

tame tide
#

both kiras can get it

minor ore
#

p8 kira >>>>>>>>>>>>

brave sentinel
wild wave
#

When I learn the Enchanted Tiki Room is just a ploy to get me to buy more Dole Whip

simple kraken
#

Kira8 is on the top tier when it comes to looks

young meteor
#

Kira8 is the hottest Kira ngl

simple kraken
#

Fr and he's canonically hot too

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Unlike Kira 4

young meteor
#

Indeed

dusty kindle
#

what in the actual fOVAiggy ck was the Shakedown Road arc?

#

so the stand is the tree's leaves and the user is the tree

tawny mist
#

yeah

tame tide
#

there is no user

dusty kindle
#

so it's the tree's stand

#

and anyone can use it

tawny mist
#

it activates when someone touches the leaves

night moon
#

yeah its not the trees stand

#

its just a stand

#

like a supernatural phenominon

dusty kindle
#

bruh

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also we just gonna brush over the fact Joshu committed sexual and regular assault

tawny mist
#

happens

dusty kindle
#

yeah you're right

night moon
#

joshu is the fucking worst

#

i despise him

#

but as bonfire said i need to cool down and not go on another rant about him

dusty kindle
#

IKR WHO WEARS UNDERWEAR WITH NUTS ON THEM

#

Joshu is over party

vocal mason
#

okay so I'm confused a little still

#

did Yasuho's dad like disintegrate because of that rock animal

dusty kindle
#

i don't know

tame tide
#

yea

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that wasnt actually her dad

dusty kindle
#

im at the fight with the flower pot sticking to josuke

vocal mason
#

wait huh

tame tide
#

it was made up of all the stuff

vocal mason
#

ohhh

turbid skiff
#

Cioccolata may be the most evil, but Joshu is fucking awful.

ocean mirage
#

anyone remember that one time joshu showed gappy a math problem

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and gappy knew the answer right away

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because joshu is dumb as fuck

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or gappy is just hella smart

#

idk

tidal solstice
#

About shakedown road

#

A pile of leaves

#

Can handle the goddamn corpse of jesus christ

#

But holly can't even handle a genetically passed down stand (the easiest one to survive)

robust ibex
#

reminder for those who forgot: no jojolion this month

young meteor
#

And for everyone who doesn't know

ocean mirage
#

aww man

supple totem
#

so we back in the mine

minor ore
#

No

heavy sandal
#

dead meme

brave sentinel
#

imposter

noble haven
#

no one cares

supple totem
#

oh no

simple kraken
#

That math problem wasn't hard

vocal mason
#

What was the problem, I don't remember

simple kraken
#

It was the angles of a star inside of a circle

vocal mason
#

Being almost caught up feels really weird

#

Also I miss the colored scans

#

I have a hard time discerning stuff in black and white

lyric vale
#

In all manga or only jojo

vocal mason
#

Jojo is the only manga I've read

simple kraken
#

Berserk is good

minor ore
#

jojolion in black and white is super easy

vocal mason
#

My eyes have a hard time with it sometimes

#

If some of the backgrounds were blacked I'd have an easier time

lyric vale
#

Read more manga

#

wow aren't I smart

vocal mason
#

I'm used to comics being in color I guess

lyric vale
#

same

#

When I first started reading manga I couldn't understand fights

#

But like some art styles are better than other when it comes to action

supple totem
#

One punch man artstyle

#

Example

lyric vale
#

web comic or manga?

vocal mason
#

The OPM web manga is uh special

vocal mason
#

Damn rock humans are real 😬

mint gyro
#

If rock humans are real, that opens the possibility we live in a universe similar to the SBR one. That means if we work hard enough, we can learn the Spin.

young meteor
#

Yes, and Rokakaka is also real

minor ore
#

Oh boy can’t wait to learn the spin

young meteor
#

Who's gonna teach us anyway?

minor ore
#

The members of Led Zeppelin who are still alive

#

duh

young meteor
#

Oh right

plush plank
#

I'm just reading through the "Born This Way" fight at chapter 14 and, whoah, did Josuke just get an innocent old man eating noodles killed by leading a deadly, highly-aggressive stand into his living room?

#

that old dude looks pretty dead

#

also having a hard time figuring out how Born This Way is attacking. does it just blow wind at you, or does it, like, blow wind at things than then make them sharp, or is it attacking with ice, or what...?

kind owlBOT
#

@plush plank, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !

tame tide
#

just keep reading lol

plush plank
#

I got to the official stand description and it says "The world turns to ice", so I guess it's pretty much Horus + Wheel of Fortune

#

I'm not sure why that was causing tiny leaves to rip Josuke's skin open but not important I guess. also I feel like it's pretty obvious who the stand's user is but i'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong

#

ahhaahaha

#

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

#

YES

queen fox
#

old man?

#

I remember it being an old lady

tame tide
#

its ||kyo||

plush plank
#

My thought process: "Wow okay so this chick just tried to outright murder Josuke, threatened innocent bystanders, and when he let her know the game was up she immediately tried to kill him again using that clever pen-cap trick. But even though this is the 2010s I bet the rules of chivalry still apply enough in manga that he'll disable her really gently now even though she's done plenty to deserve getting ora ora ora-ed"

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next panel: (she gets ora-ora-ora-ed in the face)

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yeah i'd thought it was an old man but apparently from the family photo it was an old lady. I hope some detail pops up in the next chapter or two to reassure the readers she didn't get frozen to death like how it looked

tame tide
#

where are you getting old from

plush plank
#

huh? no, I don't mean kyo

#

when josuke was running away from Born This Way he runs through some random family house

#

there's an old lady sitting there eating noodles, who just ignores him. Josuke runs upstairs, Born This Way goes through the room, and the unnamed old lady seemingly topples over after being frozen solid, then gets buried by an avalanche worth of snow

#

it looked pretty fatal, but I guess we're supposed to assume it wasn't

tame tide
#

oh yeah

#

i totally forgot about that lol sorry

night moon
#

itd be so much work to make tho

fluid wren
#

omg

#

is tht kira yoshikage

lucid fiber
#

I'm on the right track baby I was born this way

vocal mason
#

of all things I didn't expect to happen in Jojo

#

the top of that list would be an unborn child being aborted through equivalent exchange

young meteor
#

Is that referred to Mitsuba?

vocal mason
#

yeah

#

although I'm not done with the chapter yet, she's trying to save the baby

#

I think they look similar

young meteor
#

At the first glance maybe not

#

Also, I think Mitsuba would eat the Rokakaka to save Tsurugi

tidal solstice
#

I can't remember if mitsuba saved her fetus or not

young meteor
#

Iirc she saved her fetus

tame tide
#

his hair isn't a pomp

#

its more like that one death note dude

young meteor
#

Ah yes, Minoru

plush plank
#

It's kind of funny, I dislike Yashuo's hairstyle and hate her skirt, but I really like the design for Paisley Park. it looks amazing

daring bear
#

ouch poor yasuho

minor ore
#

@fluid wren no that cosplay is josefumi kujo

scenic timber
#

So it’s confirmed that Josuke is just Josefumi x Kira fusion?

minor ore
#

Its been confirmed years ago

#

In the vitamin c arc

scenic timber
#

Was Dangerous pursuit the last arc?

minor ore
#

Its the latest arc yeag

scenic timber
#

I looked at the last page there was a to be continued ish message

minor ore
#

Yes

#

Its still ongoing

#

Its not finished

scenic timber
#

Hmm

minor ore
#

Monthtly chapter release

#

Its om hiatus this month however so no nee chapter today

tawny mist
#

why did it have to be such a big cliffhanger though

scenic timber
#

How come

tawny mist
#

are you not up to date with the current chapter?

scenic timber
#

Define cliffhanger :p

tawny mist
#

it should be pretty obvious if you've read the newest chapter

lucid fiber
#

People who don't actually read the manga but want to know everything about it anyway are fuckin weirdos

minor ore
#

Cliffhangers serve a purpose of wanting the readers to come back @tawny mist

#

Theyve gottena bad reputation on movies and such

#

But what else would make you want to come back amd excited for a new chapter

tawny mist
#

my problem is more he ended with a cliffhanger when he was going on hiatus

#

its still not that long of a wait but

minor ore
#

35 pages

#

Would you want him to draw 6 more?

#

Exactly

near cedar
#

Cliffhangers are great

daring bear
#

i love and hate them

near cedar
#

That's a great description of Cliffhangers

minor ore
#

They exist for hype

#

Movies dont do so well with them however

#

Nor games

tawny mist
#

I wouldn't say hype is the right word for this specific one

#

its more like uhhhh

daring bear
#

yeah..

minor ore
#

Its to get you back when a new chapter releases

#

I mean

#

The part 5 chapter after the oasis fight ends with a panel of doppio about to strike bruno

#

Will he actually strike him?

#

The questions keep you curious to find out

noble haven
#

@tidal solstice the fetus was saved

#

@scenic timber wtf it was confirmed ages ago

tame tide
#

why don't you just read it if you're gonna ask questions like that Jay

near cedar
#

Some people are weird

lost slate
#

maybe they just don't like reading books

#

and think reading comics/manga is the same as reading a novel

fluid wren
#

@minor ore it was a joke dumb ass

minor ore
#

i know

#

should be obvious why i did it

#

dickface

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best insult of 2020

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calling someone dick face

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hilarious

fluid wren
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Dumb ass

minor ore
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whatever floats your boat

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if you havent noticed that i dislike your shitty jokes then youre the dumbass here

fluid wren
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Ur the dumb ass tht cant see a joke

terse jungle
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let people have fun if you dont like it stfu

minor ore
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i can see a joke

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i just dont like it

young meteor
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...are you guys serious?

minor ore
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dumbass

terse jungle
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Noone asked if you liked or not tho

minor ore
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im explaining myself

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since this guy cant tell that i tend to ruin jokes

mint gyro
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Bon provoking another argument, let’s go. I need some amusement for a bit.

minor ore
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i aint provoking shit

fluid wren
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Im Not debating with this dumb ass

minor ore
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whatever floats your boat dumbass

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youre the one who got offended

fluid wren
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Ur the one who @ed me cause u dont understand a fucking joke

mint gyro
minor ore
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and you still got offended

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i got the joke

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wow hes kria yoshikage blah blah blah blah cause fusionnnnnnnnnnn

fluid wren
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If u gwt it then stfu

minor ore
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the joke is garbage and thats why i came in

fluid wren
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Seems like ur mad about a joke

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Nice one

minor ore
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seems like im not mad about anything

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youre the one who got offended by it

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so youre the one mad here

fluid wren
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U called me dickface, dumbass and other stuff and ur being rude for no reason

lucid fiber
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lmao y'all wilin'

fluid wren
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Just move on

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It's ok

minor ore
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@minor ore it was a joke dumb ass

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yeah sure

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im the one who started it

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hypocrite

fluid wren
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U started it by @ing me 1st

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Hypocrite

minor ore
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wow

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such rudeness

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tfw you dont even know what hypocrite means

fluid wren
minor ore
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if youre offended by being pinged dont use these things

fluid wren
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No

minor ore
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im only annoyed by pings when im already in the chat which makes pings meaningless