it’s weird, johnny probably does have the birthmark but just like with josuke, araki just didn’t show it
#jojolion
ancient depot
paper quail
Funny has the american flag scarred onto his back what an absolute fucking chad. God bless.
winter adder
I thought Louvrueuryees doesn’t have a mind of its own and just slips around however people maneuver it
ancient depot
because kira yoshikage is shown to have it
supple plaza
CRUSH MY HEAD WITH A ROCK I MUST
SAVE MY SON I MUST DO
paper quail
Well tbf there would never be a proper time to show Johnny without a shirt on
winter adder
That is then adopted into a family of distant cousins
ancient depot
that’s a possibility
winter adder
All of which don’t realize they’re related
ancient depot
gogo
ancient depot
the theory is that he’s a bastard child
paper quail
yeah but that was for Johnny and the Higashikata's wasn't it?
ancient depot
just like the original josuke
winter adder
And everyone is related
Including Josefumi now he’s a bastard grandson of Joseph because yeah
Johnny married Rina
supple plaza
Remember when Weather Report had a Joestar birthmark?
winter adder
Who is a Higashikata
ancient depot
he’s either a child of a bastard child or sadafumi kujo is not the father
paper quail
lmao
winter adder
That was because he gets the special twin family Trish Diavolo connection but stronger because he’s a twin
paper quail
Weather my man
supple plaza
But
ancient depot
weather had it because pucci got it from the green baby and their bond of twinship is too great i guess
supple plaza
What
minor ore
on the josefumi thing
grizzled pilot
the birthmark is magic
minor ore
josuke has his facial structure, lips, stand and stand cry
supple plaza
I don't think that's how birthmarks work
grizzled pilot
that's how magic birthmarks work
ancient depot
but...it did?
paper quail
After Pucci became DIO's boy toy he tramp stamped him with the joestar birthmark. And then Pucci tramp stamped Weather. Easy explanation.
minor ore
also i dont fucking know how he got 4 balls considering kira didnt have any balls
ancient depot
“guys i don’t think arrows can pierce you and then you get magic power :/“
winter adder
W
supple plaza
What
paper quail
Wasn't that always a mystery
ancient depot
he got kira’s balls
supple plaza
He absorbed his nuts you dumbo
ancient depot
that’s the thing
grizzled pilot
🤔
paper quail
yeah
winter adder
And were grafted on to Josefumi
minor ore
kira didnt have balls
ancient depot
he has josefumi and kira’s nuts
grizzled pilot
yeah, after
winter adder
Yes
ancient depot
yes kira didn’t have nuts because josuke has them
paper quail
Kira's dead body didn't have any balls because they went into Josuke
winter adder
Because
supple plaza
Kira didn't have balls AFTER HE DIED
ancient depot
jesus
supple plaza
This shit is like 5 years old how is anyone still confused
paper quail
Remember when Josuke got a boner in the hospital? I miss that Josuke.
ancient depot
stone ocean is like 20 years old and you got confused over the weather birthmark shit
paper quail
^
minor ore
while i do pat attention to details like josefumi's mom having divorce papers i miss other details
paper quail
rekt
minor ore
so shut the fuck up
winter adder
I was reading Part Five as a sperm cell
ancient depot
destroyed
winter adder
It sucked without proper translations or coloring
I also couldn’t see because I didn’t have eyes
supple plaza
I remember when I read Phantom Blood all the way in the late 1800s
paper quail
I remember when I LIVED in phantom blood
winter adder
Woah
supple plaza
Nobody liked you
minor ore
jonathan saved lisa lisa though
winter adder
So do you guys think that Josuke’s going to be running around Morioh in an upcoming chapter and Okuyasu will just be in the background. What would you do
He’s just there
winter adder
Josuke doesn’t confront him or anything
The two stories just take place in the same world
There was never a second continuity
supple plaza
I've had this weird as hell idea, of suddenly Josuke and Co being sucked in a void by a Stand, and it's a dimension of Darkness
And suddenly in the background you see Avdol's severed arms
paper quail
Mamezuku is the best Jobro tbh he lives on a ski lift and has a car in a tree. What a chad.
lmao
ancient depot
imagine gogo
winter adder
Out of desperation, since they stay in there for a long time, they have to eat them. Jobin cooks the arms
ancient depot
just same continuity same names completely different families and they just constantly barely miss each other’s escapades
supple plaza
Araki wouldn't even have to put attention to it
kind owlBOT
@supple plaza, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
supple plaza
Just be like 'Oh this is the place where Cream and The Hand drop their stuff
paper quail
So what kind of time/space power will the main villain have?
paper quail
Pocket dimensions and one has avdol's arms
paper quail
Araki: "The real villain was the friends we made along the way"
minor ore
fuck you for wanting that
paper quail
being the MV is a bad thing
supple plaza
I mean technically without Bites The Dust, Killer Queen is not a time or space manipulating stand
winter adder
I see him as the current threat until Kaato actually becomes relevant and cool
supple plaza
And speed king is a callback to Killer Queen
minor ore
jobin is a secondary protag at best
winter adder
He killed an innocent woman
paper quail
I'm pretty sure Killer Queen is a callback to Killer Queen lmao
supple plaza
An antagonist isn't necessarily a villain
minor ore
and how many innocent people did josuke kill
ancient depot
how many breads have you eaten in your life
paper quail
Josuke snapped that guys neck and got arrested with Mamezuku
winter adder
None
Because they were trying to kill him at the very least
That wasn’t him, it was the Doctor, your honor
paper quail
Also how many people did Giorno and the gang kill?
supple plaza
And other people were the fault of the enemy
minor ore
and that woman was trying to destroy the higashikata familly fruit
paper quail
Same ^
I wanted Gappy to drop the soap and then the prisoner notices 4 blals
balls*
minor ore
so definitely not innocent
winter adder
):
supple plaza
To be fair you can't really keep a Stand User in a mundane prison for long
winter adder
She didn’t have to dieeee
minor ore
jolyne
supple plaza
Stone Ocean is a special case
winter adder
They wouldn’t be able to identify him
minor ore
hermes
paper quail
Josuke never uses his stand ability though so he would stay there forever 
minor ore
pretty much the whole cast of p6
winter adder
Then Tooru would prove he’s a good cool boy by saying that Josuke’s innocent
supple plaza
Again, mundane prison
winter adder
Then we trust Tooru until he inevitably becomes an ally and nothing else
paper quail
Tooru is the main villain 😦
supple plaza
Also Jobin in general is more Kira than actual Part 8 Kira in terms of personality
paper quail
I swear to god I'm not trusting Tooru
he's trying to fuck Yasuho
Part 8 Kira is a JoJo in terms of personality
winter adder
He loves his green beans mm
minor ore
i dont see how you can compare those 2
paper quail
The only thing Kira about P8 Kira is his fetish for hands
supple plaza
Businessman with a beautiful wife and kid, has weird interests, ruthless behavior, Stands made to create traps that cause near instant death to victims
minor ore
jobin doesent have a hand fetish, only kills when necessary and in general wants to protect his familly
supple plaza
Jobin is essentially a foil to Kira
minor ore
kira doesent have any of that bessides the last part
ancient depot
“kira is just like jotaro” i liked it when jotaro said “why are you a surfer but you’re at a cafe on a date instead of at the sea? i’m gonna beat the shit out of you”
minor ore
and weird interests
supple plaza
Kira(4) is selfish, sociopathic, and a serial killer
minor ore
and how is that jobin?
supple plaza
Jobin cares about family, seems to be capable of empathy, but is a shady drug dealer
They're opposites, but on the same wavelength
paper quail
Jobin is an anti-hero in that aspect
supple plaza
They are in this case
ancient depot
jojolion probably isn’t going to have a big fancy main antagonist sitting on his throne awaiting gappy’s arrival, but jobin did give that suspicious ass villain type speech
supple plaza
Also fruits can definetly be drugs
winter adder
Special fruits that are sold in a shady manner that can be used as medicine
paper quail
Jobin is like Valentine
cares about his country, capable of empathy, is okay with sacrificing a few for the greater good of his country
Jobin would make a decent antagonist
supple plaza
Also another difference between Jobin and Kira that seems to compare the two significantly is their worldview
supple plaza
Kira (4) wants a peaceful stagnant life, where everything is the same and he is in complete control
minor ore
that was a joke
winter adder
Can oranges give you exchange powers
paper quail
wait what?
winter adder
Geeeeeeeeeez
timid rune
jobin the orange dealer
paper quail
Can oranges cause dozen of stand users to beat the shit out of each other for them?
supple plaza
Jobin wants to climb the social ladder at all costs, saying that all humans strive to go higher in the ranks, no matter how high they were born
minor ore
and again, it was a joke
winter adder
Let’s gettem, boys
minor ore
even so the rokakaka is more of a medicine fruit
but with a heavy price
figuratively and literally
winter adder
A medicine that has a scene surrounding it that involves people called “peddlers” for those that want to get their hands on it beyond the hospital
minor ore
im very sure mitsuba just wanted to look pretty and didnt know the side effects of the rokakaka
supple plaza
Yes, but that's what allowed her to be suckered in using the Rokakaka who knows how many times
The Rokakaka fixes a problem and creates another, it's the perfect drug for a drug dealer
winter adder
Those damn extortionists!!!! I’ll kill those bastards!!!!!!
minor ore
she was only offered the fruit once, why else would wu talk about it like he never did it to her
supple plaza
I'm pretty sure it happened more than once
ancient depot
the rokaka trade is effectively a drug trade but rokaka doesn’t have this addictive property to it
she’s just getting repeatedly scammed, she’s not suffering from withdrawal
minor ore
also the only thing jobin does is help smuggle in the fruit
he doesent go out and sell them
supple plaza
He still got paid
winter adder
I still don’t understand why Iwasuke was saved by the rokakaka
What did he trade off for it
Was it his dogginess, is that why he’s a horrible abomination
ancient depot
he’s definitely still a part of the trade he’s just not the actual plug
supple plaza
In a way in this part we have two parallels to past villains
Jobin is a callback to Kira (Specifically after he stole another man's identity)
The head doctor is a callback to Diavolo
winter adder
He eventually will, isn’t that one of his end goals besides saving Tsurugi
Satoru and Tooru are one and the same
Don’t ask how Tooru pointed to Satoru
minor ore
are you perhaps that person who had the theory of s&w evolving into king crimson?
winter adder
Plus he’s the shady boss of this drug operation that appears out of thin air whose identity is unknown bbpth
supple plaza
Head of an organisation that smuggles fruit, mysterious, doesn't want to be pursued
His appearance also calls back to Silver Chariot Requiem
ancient depot
i will literally quit jojo forever if soft and wet king crimson becomes a real thing
winter adder
Of course it’ll evolve, remember all the times people ate the fruit to evolve their stands
ancient depot
it would be hilarious tho
minor ore
it wont
winter adder
Like that time when
minor ore
its impossible
winter adder
Like that time when
supple plaza
I mean
The new Rokakaka MIGHT evolve Stands
But i don't subscribe to that theory myself
minor ore
king crimson is a stand specifically for diavolo
paper quail
Who was the brain dead youtuber that said S&W would turn into KC?
minor ore
you cant just turn your stand to a completely different one thats connected to another person
winter adder
It has “King” in the name
paper quail
pepega
winter adder
And because Josuke is two people, that means that he’s Diavolo
Everything in the reboot must be recycled
minor ore
and josuke isnt related to the hugashikata by blood at all
winter adder
It has to
supple plaza
It's possible that like the arrow, the new Rokakaka gives you what you need at that point in time
winter adder
Why wouldn’t it
ancient depot
“jojolion’s final twist plundered” lmao and all the comments praised the theory
minor ore
the req arrow doesent give you what you need
ancient depot
jojotubers and jojo fans are actually brain dead
winter adder
XForts made a joke video in it
supple plaza
Again, just playing devil's advocate
winter adder
But he’ll become a true member
minor ore
in what way
winter adder
Plus both the Higashikatas and Josuke are related to Rina
supple totem
are we actually discussing the xforts king crimson theory?
paper quail
Okay so
supple plaza
Speaking of
paper quail
the requiem arrow in part 8 is actually bugs that live in the wall eyes
minor ore
but the req arrow has a beetle on it
paper quail
wait
winter adder
You know who else has beetles
paper quail
I thought Rina Higashikata was the daughter of Norisuke Higashikata the first
minor ore
she is
winter adder
Jobin!!!!! He needs to eat a beetle, a creature he loves, to evolve his stand! It’s sacrifice!
ancient depot
wasn’t she the daughter of norisuke the first?
paper quail
Jobin has beetles and the requiem arrow has a beetle
jobin will get a requiem stand
my name is xforts and I just spoiled part 8 for you
minor ore
speed king definitely a stand i love and i dont know why
paper quail
Speed king is cool
minor ore
probably cause i love jobin
winter adder
The name’s Aeonstar
paper quail
terrifying ability and gay biker design. I love it.
winter adder
Speed King’ll melt time ppbbbthhh ppppbbbthh bpppthhh pbbth
minor ore
its more of a puppet
minor ore
born this way
paper quail
Born this way never really stopped did it?
minor ore
nope
paper quail
Josuke just talked to what's her face
winter adder
Kyooooooo
paper quail
yeah Kyo
winter adder
Kyo’ll do something
winter adder
Can people ride Born This Way
I know they can’t interact with stands
Yoshikage is his first name
winter adder
But stands can interact with people
The bike interacts with Josuke as they go on a high-speed chase to stop the ambulance with Satoru inside
paper quail
There are so many names in my head in part 8
winter adder
Me too 
paper quail
Some stands can even be seen by people
supple plaza
What's a Stand that we currently know that hard counters Soft and Wet?
paper quail
Every stand because S&W never uses his fucking ability
winter adder
The Wonder of (Why would that autocorrect) You
ancient depot
she’s nijimura kyo now
paper quail
Yeah she changed it to nijimura to hide that she's Kira's sister
winter adder
Which is what I’m calling Satoru’s stand until we get an actual name
ancient depot
something like that
paper quail
Tooru's stand will counter S&W
winter adder
Why did she have to hide this, was it to avoid the whole rock trade?
minor ore
shes just spying in the house and norisuke could easily find out that shes related to joestars if she kept the name
winter adder
It could’ve easily been like
She’s married and that’s her husband’s name 
paper quail
Mine is California King Bed
winter adder
“Kyo, you’re a Joestar?” * King Nothing bashes her skull open *
paper quail
Joshu is a support
He's the main character
minor ore
he used the stand on jojolions plot
supple plaza
King Nothing has like no offensive abilities at all
I don't think his punched even hurt
minor ore
king nothing is ded
winter adder
Doggy Style is so cool
The design is rad and compliments Soft & Wet
Hopefully they’ll realize that people actually want to purchase figures of the most recent part that has been going on for years now
It’s useful and apparently versatile
supple plaza
He's a very Moody Blues Stand
paper quail
To me KN is like a reimagining of Moody Blues in a way
minor ore
we are in the last ark btw
winter adder
Well
minor ore
yea araki mentioned that he wanted to end jojolion after the hospital stuff
winter adder
The Harvest Timer is ticking
paper quail
My dad is Araki and he told me that Josuke is getting King Crimson
minor ore
it could be like D4C and be 10000 chapters long
winter adder
I heard the opposite
That JoJo itself isn’t ending any time soon, something to that effect
supple plaza
I don't think the harvest going to 0 means Jojolion end
paper quail
Araki is going to make part 9 afterwards
winter adder
It will
supple plaza
It just means that whatever happens at that point, it's the final battle
minor ore
well all the shit we want answered is slowly getting brought up now
supple plaza
Things are still gonna happen beyond the harvest itself
winter adder
Josuke, the fruit—!
Time Until Harvest: 0:00:00
JoJolion End
supple plaza
Even if for a couple of chapters
paper quail
Norisuke 😦
winter adder
More than likely
minor ore
norisuke didnt appear to have rock skin
supple plaza
I'm totally expecting Jojolion to have a 'where are they now' epilogue
kind owlBOT
@supple plaza, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
supple plaza
You know, assuming most of the recurring cast doesn't die by the end
ancient depot
wait i want a source on araki ending jojolion around the hospital arc
minor ore
die GaPpY
paper quail
Kyo, Gappy, and Yasuho kneeling in front of a convenience store.
Kyo: "I heard that Mamezuku stole from here"
Gappy: "No shame"
winter adder
Literally perfect ending
supple plaza
I've had this weird idea a while back of Jojolion going full Steven Universe and Gappy fused with Yasuho
winter adder
We all become one
paper quail
Stop
minor ore
ohno honey
supple plaza
No
minor ore
dont
winter adder
The Third Impact
minor ore
do not
paper quail
I'm getting my gun Aries
minor ore
im pulling out my nut king
paper quail
[We'll be right back]
ancient depot
everyone in jojolion turns into orange juice
winter adder
It really is JoJolion! They all become one with Josuke in orange juice as foreshadowed by Kyo
minor ore
I liked the 15 chapter long d4c arc tho ._.
supple plaza
Futanari Yasuho
Everyone wants this to happen
winter adder
):
paper quail
GUYS
ancient depot
i wanna see someone jerk off on josuke in his hospital bed
winter adder
I would say
supple plaza
Okay I believe you 
winter adder
Remember when a stand completely changed entirely out of the blue
paper quail
JoJolion
Jo-Jo-Lion
Lion's are the king of the animal kingdom
King Crimson and Diavolo saw himself as the king and everyone else as the soldiers
winter adder
Holy shit...
proud stag
no please
paper quail
I'm xforts and major Part 8 spoilers up ahead, this theory is so solid that it's real.
winter adder
Made in Heaven is the one exception except it has gravity powers like C-Moon it says so in his description
ancient depot
slide the link calfpie
winter adder
Don’t pin this all on XForts!!!! Aeonstar actually provided reasoning as to why he’ll transform, XForts just read a Tumblr post
Using gravity
ancient depot
i wanna read the full interview
minor ore
lemme find
paper quail
lmao
supple plaza
That was made all the way back in the Wu Tomoki arc
ancient depot
all the way back
winter adder
Well
ancient depot
it wasn’t that long ago :/
winter adder
Are we not in the endgame kind of
paper quail
no
winter adder
Tsurugi finally got the disease
minor ore
I watched xforts for a while but got sick and tired of the "plotholes" and other bullshit theories
paper quail
there are still 100 chapters left
winter adder
The New Rokakaka is harvesting
paper quail
Part 9 is just a continuation of part 8
ancient depot
just judging by the 91 chapters i read i just estimated that we’re almost in the endgame
winter adder
I know things won’t just fucking end suddenly, but a big fighty is happening
paper quail
I want a sequence instead of a fight
minor ore
I have a feeling jobin will die
paper quail
kind of like part 5
minor ore
And im going to be depressed for a while
winter adder
Part Nine will take place in Italy if we, us, the fans, want it to
paper quail
I want part 5 reimagined
ancient depot
what i want is for jobin and josuke to end up fighting but they both survive
winter adder
I have no idea how things’ll turn out in terms of who’s living and dying
ancient depot
cheesy happy ending time
winter adder
I just don’t want to lose Mamezuku again
paper quail
Jobin and Josuke put their differences aside and fight the main villain.. Joshu
winter adder
You know what, Josuke
There’s literally no reason for me to kill you now that we can both eat the rokakaka because I’ve grown multiple in my garden
Here’s one for Holy
paper quail
What if Holly is the main villain lmao
winter adder
Just like how Tooru is so obviously a villain that he’s actually a good guy
She did do research on the rokakaka
minor ore
holy is in a damn hospital where she built a laboratory full of rokakaka
ancient depot
he gave the stereotypical “villain explaining their ideals and viewpoint” speech
minor ore
im sure she can just get one...
Jobin is one of my favorite characters and it would be sad and depressing for me personally if he were to die trying to save tsurugi
paper quail
yeah
minor ore
jobin showing emotion in latest chapter
paper quail
Jobin stated how his viewpoints are justified. Classic "I'm the villain" speech.
winter adder
I’m talking about the new one, the cool one, the one that won’t give her some sort of equally horrible rock-based illness in return
ancient depot
people still think jobin isnt the jojolion main villain when this shit exists
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/632740302817460235/x9.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/632740331477139487/x10.png
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379742720903610368/632740378096828435/x12.png
winter adder
The Jesus Rokakaka that has Jesus Powers
minor ore
"every day is summer vacation"
paper quail
Jobin is such a fucking chad
ancient depot
unironicallt doe jojolion won’t have a “main main” villain
paper quail
The main villain were the readers that turned SBR into a jojo part all along.
ancient depot
jobin is a chad anti-villain at best and will probably act as an antagonistic force towards josuke at some point if he isn’t already (which he kinda is)
supple plaza
Whoever the last villain will be one through process of elimination
ancient depot
there’s no big villain sitting on his throne waiting for gappy to fight him
paper quail
and the main character is selfish
minor ore
what happened to kaato her reveal and all and her being mentioned all the time
ancient depot
valentine is definitely straight up a villain
like valentine is only about as justified as pucci is
supple plaza
When ya think about it
minor ore
the unnamed stand too it has some importance
ancient depot
people overrate valentine’s selflessness because johnny is comparatively more selfish than any other jojo
minor ore
Valentine wants to protect his country tho
supple plaza
Wouldn't Valentine, if he succeeded, cause THE most death and destruction to the world compared to all other villains?
paper quail
Johnny wanted the corpse for selfish reasons
Valentine wanted it for the greater good of his country
Josuke wants the Rokakaka for Holly so that he can matter in this world
Jobin wants it to save his child and protect his family
winter adder
Josuke fights Head Doctor
Josuke fights the Jobin
Josuke maybe fights Kaato
After this he can peacefully get the New Rokakaka and no one, not a final major person that we can consider a final major person that is the last person he fights that is in his way and has been present throughout the story will stop him
Jobin will just sit there sucking the spikes on his shirt after he gets slapped around if he does
kind owlBOT
@winter adder, Your Stand Power is now level 23 !
paper quail
No???
ancient depot
if valentine was truly just looking solely for the greater good of his country, he wouldn’t have brought the gun...
paper quail
Valentine wanted to lock the corpse up in a vault so that he could use its' powers to protect the US from bad things.
minor ore
Josuke doesnt know Holly and the whole im doing it for the proof of my existence aint rly it
supple plaza
If the Corpse's effects spread all through America (probably Canada and Texas too) and all misfortune that could befell any American citizens was redirected elsewhere, the rest of the world would fall into chaos
winter adder
How the Corpse would recognize country borders is beyond me
paper quail
Valentine was ready to make sacrifices for the greater good.
minor ore
Yeah thats what made me lose a large amount of love for him, tricking johnny to kill him cause he knew johnny wouldnt budge @ancient depot
ancient depot
as a sentient being
paper quail
The sacrifice of the few for the benefit of the many.
minor ore
damn we went to sbr chat
supple plaza
And it doesn't just mean 'getting murdered' or something
winter adder
And also have his way with Lucy in the meantime
supple plaza
It could extend to disease or simply losing something
paper quail
Johnny had Jesus whispering in his ear, Valentine had no choice.
minor ore
Valentine still my favorite villian though
winter adder
Luckily Jobin has consensual sex so I hope he isn’t the villain
paper quail
Jesus was pier pressuring Johnny "Do it"
winter adder
What
ancient depot
peer
paper quail
lmao
ancient depot
peer pressure
paper quail
yeah sure
winter adder
When did Jesus egg Johnny on to kill Valentine
supple plaza
Sure if Valentine won, America would have turned to a perfect utopia
minor ore
tsurugis stand seem to be evolving idk maybe he will be the main villain for me he needs it the most
winter adder
Why would he let Valentine use his powers
paper quail
English isn't my first or second language
supple plaza
But the rest of the world could go fuck itself I guess
ancient depot
that’s crazy Ed
winter adder
Tsurugi is horrifying
ancient depot
but i don’t remember asking
paper quail
I was joking @winter adder
minor ore
his stand works differently now
paper quail
Jesus wasn't actually egging him on
minor ore
people dont need to step on the frog
paper quail
but Jesus did whisper into johnny telling him to kill a man
winter adder
I’ve seen people think otherwise here
minor ore
he had a "change at heart"
ancient depot
jesus said to not shoot
winter adder
The memes!!! The MEMES AHHHH
supple plaza
That was the Civil War fight
minor ore
and its been really pushed lately
paper quail
Jesus told Johnny to not waver when he shoots
minor ore
the whole change of heart change of stand
ancient depot
he said to not shoot if he wavers
no difference effectively but
paper quail
After the civil war fight Johnny's eyes were literally on fire
supple plaza
When ya think about it, Jesus was the catalyst for Act 3
minor ore
tsurugi in context has the most powerful stand in jojolion
paper quail
he had tasted the blood of a man and wanted more
Johnny became a cold blooded killer
ancient depot
remember when gappy had the fire eye shit
paper quail
all so that he could fuck an asian q t 3.14
ancient depot
the “dark determination”
winter adder
Tsurugi’s been kept in a bunker for most of his life, he’s willing to kill Josuke because he isn’t family, he’s developing some weird powers...could he be...?
paper quail
based and johnnypilled
paper quail
Tsurugi's stand is going ape shit because of the illness
ancient depot
i would too if i was gonna have a fucking life threatening disease like that
along with alll this shit going on around me
minor ore
we didnt see others affected by it undergo that crazy of a change
ancient depot
and starting to question the morals of my own family
we’ve only seen one other person, iwasuke and norisuke don’t count
minor ore
Imma just end on this note, if jobin dies, for the first time ever im actually gonna cry while reading jojo
ancient depot
neither do rina and george
minor ore
like johnny wasnt turning into tusk
winter adder
What else could happen to him
ancient depot
because iwasuke is a dog and the rest were all shown for 4 seconds exactly
supple plaza
It's possible Tsurugi's Stand is like his subconscious going bananas over the fact HE'S GOING TO DIE
minor ore
iwasuke is alive right?
winter adder
Tsurugi’s ability is based on shifting physical appearances to a degree, though
What did Iwasuke sacrifice
winter adder
Yeah p
paper quail
he's 10
winter adder
Yeah that’s because
minor ore
almost like a ghost
winter adder
.
paper quail
imagine if you were 10 and told you were going to die or your grandpa would die fo ryou
winter adder
You see he’s actually a rock animal
paper quail
wait
minor ore
gappys hat is a rock animal
paper quail
wasn't the dog a rock animal?
supple plaza
@winter adder It's not that specific, Paper Moon King can outright create illusions to an insane degree
icy bluff
winter adder
But he has evoooooolved
paper quail
All stands change their ability subtly over time
supple plaza
It was like that all this time
minor ore
rock animals are a whole new...
supple plaza
Literally the second time he used it was to turn a truck into his dad
winter adder
😳
minor ore
didnt Oijiros stand change too
winter adder
He said it
minor ore
he put marks when he touched people
winter adder
Yup
paper quail
yeah
winter adder
And Josuke’s devolved
supple plaza
It's possible he always had that and he's just a moron
paper quail
S&W does nothing now lmao
paper quail
It's a busted ability so I understand why
winter adder
For some reason I love hearing “Obata”
minor ore
he aint even ora rushing if im honest
supple plaza
The thing is Soft and Wet hasn't been used in a straight fight for SO LONG
paper quail
If Araki actually used Plunder all fights would end instantly
winter adder
Slightly
paper quail
It's the bubbles
minor ore
S&W is basically 2 half jojo stands merged
supple plaza
They're just not as powerful as actual bombs
Remember, the bubbles are not actually bubbles, but strings that spin really fest
paper quail
iirc what S&W got from Killer Queen was the bubbles and to take away something, Kira's was like literally exploding but Josuke's is a different type of taking away
minor ore
also i do feel like we are missing a flashback
supple plaza
So when they pop they pretty much whip you
supple plaza
I mean that's how I explain it
paper quail
And Josefumi had the stand deisgn and the ability to fuse 2 objects iirc
minor ore
he also had star bubbles
winter adder
Which would’ve been cool if the strings are ever expanded upon
Because whenever something is hinted at, it always pays off
supple plaza
I have no idea why Araki pointed out Soft and Wet's bubbles were strings
minor ore
SBR universe stands are all connected to the spin
supple plaza
The only guess is that he's able to use the SPEEN?
winter adder
Soft & Wet was like Crazy Diamond
It separated the pepper from Josefumi’s ramen and grafted the rokakaka
paper quail
I bet Araki tried to somehow incorporate string theory into his ability
winter adder
That’s what it was obviously supposed to be
Right
Right
Because Johnny using Act IV to transfer the curse shows that the spin can now just transfer aspects
Just like Plundering
If Plundering becomes relevant
minor ore
i feel like johnnys corpse is still spinning
winter adder
But, in order for string theory to be real, there need to be ten spatial dimensions
That means that there’ll be even crazier space stands
It should be
paper quail
It can move within stopped time, it can turn someone into sliced ham, it can infinitely bury someone into the ground, it can overcome the power of jesus' protection
minor ore
but it still allows the family to transfer the disease
winter adder
There’s no reason for it not to be in the same spot
There’s that temple or something and all
And since the spin can now just transfer like Jesus, it’s likely what the Higashikatas use to transfer
Aaaaahhhh
winter adder
Remember how in-depth the description for the sky rods was
winter adder
I know this is a mystery story and everything, but we get a detailed look into wireless chargers from Tooru, but
paper quail
it was an optical illusion
paper quail
yeah
minor ore
lmfao
araki be using the rock human thing as filler
and its triggering me
the same thing over and over again
rock humans breed blah blah rokakaka blah blah
paper quail
I didn't like how part 8 devolved into stand of the week in the middle there
with all those rock humans
minor ore
you know like enigma?
winter adder
I thought it was neat because they were progressing through the rokakaka trade and discovering everything
Yotsuyu shouldn’t have been disposed of so soon but I get why he would’ve
paper quail
that the head doctor is the main villain
minor ore
tho kaatos stand feels like enigma
with d4c mixed
it could be that she will be the pre final boss
winter adder
That would be pretty underwhelming
minor ore
well we saw a glimse but like part 6&8 we didnt see the stand till the end
the main villain one
valentines stand was a flag for a while
winter adder
And wouldn’t really make sense
Unless he’s actually the flashback man and the part is saved pogchamp poggers pogpogpog
paper quail
Joshu is the true villain, he will steal Yasuho's virginity and Josuke will run into the higashikata estate like Jonathan did yelling "JOOOOOSHUUUUU"
kind owlBOT
@paper quail, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !
minor ore
imagine if kira is alives and be like>>>> i want my balls back
winter adder
He has a wife, he would never!
paper quail
lmao
paper quail
Kira is the final villain
paper quail
the final arc is battle for the balls
paper quail
Kira won't be satisfied with just his balls either, he wants all of the balls.
winter adder
They bring him back with rokakaka cell tech
He’s a test subject
You know who else is a test subject
paper quail
new Rokakaka will defuse Josefumi and Kira
winter adder
Since the Head Doctor is doing a presentation in the hospital on the rokakaka and cells
minor ore
there could be a 3rd part to the kira josefumi exchange
paper quail
you know what I don't understand
winter adder
It’s Diego he’s back it’s fruit Diego he’s alive
minor ore
also flash back man appeared mins before yasuho right
paper quail
Josuke has split eyes, and a split tongue. He's a fusion of Josefumi and Kira. But Kira's body was fully intact minus the balls.
winter adder
They bring back some random fucking American jockey from the 1800s
minor ore
and he basically ran away
paper quail
So why does he have split eyes and a split tongue?
winter adder
Kira probably has the other halves of Josefumi’s eyes and tongue
His nuts weren’t so lucky
paper quail
maybe
winter adder
He was just in Josuke’s flashback
full dove
Flashback man is diego
winter adder
Like Josuke was remembering him, he wasn’t actually there
Of course
Diego’s Rokakaka Cline
HOW
paper quail
It's Diego and there were 2 coffins
full dove
winter adder
HOW SO TOU CORRECT CLONE TO CLINE
paper quail
DIegO
winter adder
AHHHHH
fathom field
Then a inexplicable Hot Pants clone in tow
kind owlBOT
@fathom field, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
winter adder
They find out that Diego stored the corpse and force him to relive the memory through his DNA like Assassins Creed Man
minor ore
also why do the head doctor and josephs age match perfectly
paper quail
Hot Pants 😳
minor ore
since 2 years passed in jojolion
minor ore
well at the beginning of jojolion we saw the family tree
it was stated that joseph was born in 1924
that was 2 years ago
winter adder
Did two years pass?
winter adder
Oh man
paper quail
??
winter adder
Could it be...
winter adder
Joseph Joestar becomes a RuFu
paper quail
okay
minor ore
then you add the 2 passed years
winter adder
But he’s a rock human
minor ore
now we get 89
full dove
minor ore
i do have a theory that the rock disease is caused by a human and rock human breeding
paper quail
I doubt it's intentional
full dove
Guys it obviosly invisible baby
minor ore
and its the exchange
fathom field
It could. It could also just be a coincidence
full dove
Thats why we cant see it
minor ore
also HOLY is a woman like women cant be affected by the rock disease
paper quail
Didn't Johnny transfer the rock disease from Rina to himself first?
minor ore
unless she fused with a rock human?
winter adder
paper quail
or he used the corpse to cure her
and then their son got it
so Johnny transfered it to himself
minor ore
he got it and died
paper quail
No but who got it first?
paper quail
Did Rina Higashikata have the disease first?
minor ore
and then johnny
full dove
🤔
paper quail
Higashikata's were rock humans
minor ore
yea her skin turned into origmai
thats very hinted at ngl
rock human and normal human breeding or fusion causes the disease
winter adder
Did. Did Satoru fuck my great grandma
minor ore
and he still almost won
paper quail
Norisuke the 1st was a rock human and had a baby (Rina) with a human woman
Rina was a defector that got a rock disease because she was half human half rock human
Johnny cures her but after they have a child the child is also a hybrid of the two so Johnny transfers it to himself.
minor ore
winter adder
I’d believe it if the special rock infographs didn’t specifically state otherwise...unless
minor ore
he does look like a rock human in terms of design
minor ore
and the weird patches on his head
paper quail
yeah
winter adder
T
minor ore
also what is the baby
paper quail
I think they broke him
or it's an anubis situation where he's just stuck underwater forever lmao
winter adder
W
paper quail
stop
minor ore
get the disease on him
winter adder
Stuck underwater ?
minor ore
then norisuke tries to stop him but is killed
paper quail
He turned into a rock and got pushed into the water
minor ore
and tsugi main villain
paper quail
PMK evolves into not only creating illusions but also bending reality itself to make those illusions real
paper quail
The guy whose stand name is literally "I am a rock"
paper quail
he was a cutie
minor ore
he had a crown too
paper quail
he looks more like a long haired bruno
paper quail
might just be because all jojo characters have basically the same face
winter adder
Yotsuyu was practically the head of the rokakaka laundering scheme
minor ore
with the tamo
i feel like they were a team
yall remember when we thought oijiro gonna be main villain
paper quail
no
minor ore
araki debunks every fan theory with each chapter
minor ore
he is like a trash magnet
timid rune
what would gold experience look like if he was requiem
minor ore
and gappy in no way shape or form is getting king crimson
minor ore
who is more psycho tsugi vs gapp
paper quail
Gappy getting King Crimson is a spoiler
timid rune
gappy is getting crimson king
paper quail
Tsugi is justified, Gapp is just weird
timid rune
its a giant head with a small king crimson on its forehead
winter adder
Like
minor ore
gappy switches weirdly
fathom field
Thoth requiem when
minor ore
one second he is all like kind and then i kill u
paper quail
Thot Requiem pog
timid rune
thoth requiem can predict the future up to 10 seconds
winter adder
A stand that completely and utterly switches its design, ability, and name completely with no resemblance to its former self whatsoever
paper quail
Gappy doesn't have a personality really, he doens't know anything about himself.
paper quail
like on a personal level
winter adder
Gold Experience Requiem has the power of Stronger Life, he can summon whales now
minor ore
gappy is kind and carrying
fathom field
Whales from fire hydrants
minor ore
but also a torture freak
fathom field
Or sperm whales from...
paper quail
Well to be fair
fathom field
Tadpoles
minor ore
but gappy is the opposite of diavolo
paper quail
Giorno was kind and caring but he was completely fine with the gang burning someone's eye out while dancing and muda muda-ing someone off of a roof and into a dumpster truck as well as granting someone an eternal death.
timid rune
khnum requiem guys
fathom field
The opposite of Diavolo would be a villain that wants to make themselves known
Khnum requiem copy peoples stands
minor ore
no in terms of psychology and them as a being
diavolo is 2 minds in one body
and gappy is 2 bodies in 1 mind\
paper quail
jobin: A sperm whale withstand approximately 21 atmospheres of pressure
minor ore
jobin would have a time stand i feel like
fathom field
Diavolo core psyche trait isn't 2 minds in one body its a fragmented soul that caused a split in mind. The opposite would be someone so very whole mentally.
paper quail
Anyone read Fire Force?
fathom field
Yes
minor ore
speed king speeds up objects and probably makes em vibrate till they heat up
fathom field
Last chapter very good
paper quail
Do you know Sho's ability?
minor ore
fire force Poggers
fathom field
Yes
timid rune
speed king becomes fast
paper quail
Okay so Imagine if Speed King gets Sho's ability
minor ore
speeds up so fast that he destroys the universe
fathom field
Are you saying speed king gets the opposite ability
paper quail
Speed King manipulates heat and stops the expansion of the universe to stop time
minor ore
i memeing at this point ngl
its fun to see how far you can reach
and get shit on lol
paper quail
You can't reach with stand abilities when shit like GER and D4C exist
fathom field
Also doesn't speed king store heat not so much manipulate it?
minor ore
we are all speculating about the family tree when it has nothing to do with the plot atm
fathom field
Hard to remember when he's been shown very little
paper quail
well yeah but I'm talking about an evolution of Speed King
fathom field
Oh right
minor ore
i feel like speed king speeds up cells or molecules to where they heat up
paper quail
If Jobin is the main villain he will definitely gain another ability or evolve his current one
minor ore
well its heavily hinted
wild wave
I just wanna see more speed king
minor ore
araki wrote it himself
paper quail
He explains that he stores heat in a place and when it's interracted with that heat expands to other places around it
minor ore
speed king is gay conductor
fathom field
Do we tho?
paper quail
Kyo isn't a gay biker
fathom field
I thought she disappeared into nothingness
minor ore
shes in kaatos cards
paper quail
Literally who?
minor ore
along with karera
kaato keeps all the K girls in her cards
so they dont take her spot
paper quail
I wish we saw more of California King Bed and best fluffy girl
paper quail
"Anon, you like Fluffy girls right?" 😳
minor ore
her reference still cant believe riri is in jojo
fathom field
What happens if Born this way pursues head doctor?
fathom field
Probably the reason Kyo disappeared haha
paper quail
jesus
minor ore
i just want for gappy to go into the wall eyes
it looks like a cave system
or like someone
paper quail
Gappy looks into the wall eyes and sees Josuke4
minor ore
then gay happens
timid rune
kyo would have to touch head doctor tho
fathom field
Too right
kind owlBOT
@fathom field, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
minor ore
kaato throws card with kyo in it
kyo touches head doctor and kaato puts her back
wow magic
fathom field
I want them to explore Kaato stand so bad
minor ore
tho kaato be looking like a cheap magician
timid rune
wouldn't the card get blown away
minor ore
one of the worst designs
fathom field
Although im liking the attention Mitsuba has been getting
timid rune
hd's stand is called plot armor
minor ore
like mitsubas stand looks like it could be hatos
fathom field
Ikr, and her stand is sick
paper quail
cuts off fingers
no screaming
fathom field
The Higashikatas actually have sick stands.
paper quail
Awaking III Leaves is weird but I like the design
minor ore
yea they feel like rock human stands
paper quail
Higashikata's are part rock human
fathom field
But we don't see enough Nut King Call or Speed King
timid rune
can't wait for josuke to get king king
minor ore
it would explain why all have cool stands
fathom field
King King King
minor ore
jizz king
paper quail
4 Nuts King Call
fathom field
Yeah feels like a big scapegoat for something else
timid rune
whats his name
paper quail
well they've definitely said "Is he really 89 years old" enough times for us to know that he's not that old.
timid rune
guys what if the head doctor is alternate universe kenzo
wild wave
Nut King Call has an awesome design
paper quail
Tooru's stand is wireless chargers
minor ore
or find the most optimal reality where they get hurt
timid rune
what if his stand is kars himself
minor ore
Karera is kars cmon
paper quail
you know that's not happening
Tooru is so obviously a bad guy or some kind of antagonistic force
minor ore
Imagine Karera coming back and stealing the rokakaka
i would die
didnt she want to steal it
her stand is so useless its funny
paper quail
lol
minor ore
grow hair wow