jojolion

[minor ore]

I don’t think he is evil tho

Just horny

It’s possible that he doesn’t know about the HDs stand

They’ll get in trouble for trying to pursue him too probably

He did come out of nowhere tho so I’m not 100% on that

[vague marsh]

he is really being set up to be evil lol

but i would like if he was just a good guy

[minor ore]

Also Caato literally disappeared and the head doctor popped up

[pastel adder]

Tooru "helping" isn't really helping is the problem'

if he allows yasuho to pursue it only makes her get hurt

[supple totem]

how can she dissapear when she never was there

[vague marsh]

PMK GANG BABY

[minor ore]

Isn’t tooru pursuing him too

It would be dumb for tooru to be immune

[pastel adder]

It depends if he has the intent

[vague marsh]

yeah

[minor ore]

Maybe his intent is help yasuho

[pastel adder]

if he's just intending to get yasuho to pursue then he should be fine

[vague marsh]

tooru isnt pursuing the head doctor he is just following yashuo

[minor ore]

Not find doctor

They also don’t know that the doctor is in the house

She’s going there for mitsuba

[vague marsh]

well he isnt in the house

[minor ore]

Next to it

[vague marsh]

just walking around it like a creepy fuck

[minor ore]

Not sure

[pastel adder]

no

[winter adder]

Terunosuke

[minor ore]

I’m interested if we’ll see karera again

[vague marsh]

who

[winter adder]

Tooru isn’t the proxy of some random book guy that likes to scare people . Come here

Enigma Boy

[vague marsh]

i dont really wanna see karera again honestly

[minor ore]

She’s interesting tho

[vague marsh]

Love love deluxe was umm underwhelming

yeah as a character

but her stand is so shit lol

[minor ore]

Yea her stand was kinda wack but her story is cool

[queen fox]

karera

[minor ore]

Or the stuff she’s told us

[queen fox]

I want her

[vague marsh]

75% of the story is a dead end

wtf were the first like 30 chapters

[minor ore]

I want jesefumi, kira and karera oneshot atleast

[vague marsh]

lol

[minor ore]

I’m intrigued what lead to their friendship and what are their backstories

[queen fox]

that'd make sense ngl

[vague marsh]

maybe they just liked hanging out with each other

[winter adder]

Huh

[minor ore]

The little josuke above Norisuke tho

No one would have noticed that if you didn’t point it out

[queen fox]

I kinda knew since I read that chapter lol

[winter adder]

I’m not seeing a Johiel

[minor ore]

Why is his name only written as Yoshikage

[winter adder]

Oh

[vague marsh]

Johnny Joestar

[winter adder]

Wow I’m a dummy

I literally send that before and saw Josho but not

[queen fox]

Josho

[winter adder]

Bpppthhhh

[queen fox]

Joshu

[minor ore]

That name keeps repeating

[queen fox]

nah

[winter adder]

It’s Terunosuke

He’s back

[vague marsh]

who isnt a higashikata at this point

[minor ore]

It’s like one Norisuke Transfers his consciousness from one to the other

[queen fox]

it's a girl you know

[winter adder]

Imagine getting adopted by a family that’s technically already related to you

[minor ore]

A g i r l

[long flax]

What's a girl

[winter adder]

It’s sexy Teronsuke with giant breasts and maybe a skirt or something, just like those depictions of Passione If They Were Girls we all see so much

[minor ore]

So Norisuke is like a parasite

[queen fox]

the Tero

[vague marsh]

what the fuck are you saying right now

lol

[minor ore]

Teru, Toyoko, Tomoko and Kaato

Mhhh

I see a pattern

[vague marsh]

but the fuse is new

isnt that only with the new fruit

[queen fox]

you're looking too far

[minor ore]

The tradition has been going on since sbr ngl

[vague marsh]

this is the deepest lore

i will remember you guys when it comes true

[minor ore]

Well araki said Jojolion is his evangelion and it’s much deeper than other parts

[queen fox]

found a pic of teru

[vague marsh]

will we find out in part 8 or have to wait for part 9

[queen fox]

likely

[vague marsh]

lol

[queen fox]

but looks nothing like rina

[minor ore]

Johnny reminds me of kira

Their facial structure

[vague marsh]

so is kira now fusing to extend his own life aswell

[minor ore]

More like josefumi

[queen fox]

that's kinda a dumb theory ngl

[minor ore]

It’s weird how everyone is connected to everyone

Like big incest town

I wouldn’t be surprised if karera is connected to Tooru

[queen fox]

also Araki never said jojolion was his evangelion, that was a mistake on my behalf if who ever posted it got it from me

[minor ore]

I saw it somewhere in general jojo lol

Missinfo

[queen fox]

he just said: "It's also used in the name of the tragic king in a Greek myth called "Pygmalion" as well as the Japanese animation "Evangelion", but I'm not sure if it has to do with the same idea."

[minor ore]

He likes to stick jojo to random words

Jojoveller

Jojolion

Jojonium

[queen fox]

jojonium is clever tho

[minor ore]

It is

[vague marsh]

alot of stuff isnt explained

like how all the plot threads of the first 30 chapters just went away

[queen fox]

Araki has a sister?

Araki is a uncle y'all

[vague marsh]

maybe they just always had the rock disease and were just unlucky

[minor ore]

Also Josuke is looking more and more like araki

Like lol

[minor ore]

Especially in one drawing

If I was araki I would reference my face too ngl

[queen fox]

Araki likely used her niece as a reference

[minor ore]

The noses are identical

And also the art style change of more “fat” noses

[queen fox]

In short, I have 12 pictures of girls in bathing suits in my office.

Araki lol

[minor ore]

He used em for the breakfast in swimsuits thing

[queen fox]

this was during SBR

[minor ore]

They could still be there

[queen fox]

lol

[minor ore]

Also wheew SBR style looks so different to jojolion

Especially recently

[queen fox]

ya

[minor ore]

This man can’t stop evolving

[stark fossil]

@warm leaf Part 4 Kira's dad was called Yoshiteru fwiw

[grizzled pilot]

part 4 kira's dad was named Yoshihiro

[stark fossil]

So who was Yoshiteru

[minor ore]

Kira’s dad could be trapped in a photograph even in part 8

[grizzled pilot]

nobody

[minor ore]

😳

[light lion]

What happened in the new chapter of jojolion

[grizzled pilot]

nothing

[minor ore]

Nothing and everything

[light lion]

What

[analog ether]

Reed Mango

[minor ore]

It’s short gonna take you 5 mins to read

Just do it

[stark fossil]

Oh it's Holy's husband

[light lion]

But did anything important happen

[supple totem]

Gambare!!

[minor ore]

A lot

[light lion]

Like what

[supple totem]

Yes

[minor ore]

So much stuff going down

[analog ether]

Mate just read it lmao

[supple totem]

Bro

[light lion]

Can I just get a summary bruh

Im not tryna read

Lmao

[analog ether]

What are you even doing here

Also, "a wiki"

[stark fossil]

The chapters are gonna end up like game of thrones where almost nothing happens over multiple threads

[minor ore]

Tooru and Yasuho heading to the Higashikata estate

[light lion]

Oh

Bet

[minor ore]

Head doctor is seen standing outside

Of the house

[light lion]

Head doctor stand fight next chapter?

[minor ore]

The beginning

[stark fossil]

No

[light lion]

Damn

[stark fossil]

I think 3 more chapters of this first

[analog ether]

Josuke used King Crimson and Bites the Dust combined and he skipped until the day of the head doctor's conference

[minor ore]

This is all setting it up now

We need Gappy and Rei to get to the house still

[light lion]

Head Doctor better be diegos son

[stark fossil]

Enough Dios in JoJo smh

[minor ore]

Diego had a son?

[light lion]

Maybe

We dont know

[analog ether]

dio again

[minor ore]

He was too selfish to have a son ngl

[light lion]

True, true

[minor ore]

Also dio again...

[light lion]

Is the head doctor a black man?

[stark fossil]

Yes

[minor ore]

Rai is seen in the super market

Last time we saw him

[analog ether]

You've seen his face, you know the answet to that

[stark fossil]

Why do you want summaries but not to read the chapter

[light lion]

Lol

Well

Im too lazy

[analog ether]

https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

[stark fossil]

I can't process that answer

[light lion]

Ok

[analog ether]

Also literally what do you even consider hard work if you're too lazy to read manga? Is an effort to make all the organs in your body function at once?

[light lion]

You're confusing lazyness with hard work

Being lazy to do something does not equate to said thing being difficult to do or not

[sly turret]

you literally just gotta click/tap a side of the screen like 30 times

[analog ether]

still a bit sad tbh

[light lion]

It just means you dont wanna do it

[analog ether]

Also, it's not like it's gonna take less time or energy to read summaries of chapters rather than just reading the thing tbh

[stark fossil]

I thought reading manga is something people can do when they're lazy and avoiding doing something else

I've learned a lot about the world today

[light lion]

It could be

Depends on the person and the situation

Im not caught up yet with jjl too

I stopped reading bc the latter volumes arent colored yet

[queen fox]

imagine not being caught up

[light lion]

I dislike reading manga without color

Ik its frowned upon

[queen fox]

the colored manga is worse imo for jojolion

[light lion]

But it doesnt appeal to me

[sly turret]

I don't like the black and white of some earlier parts

[queen fox]

jojolion is superior b&w

[sly turret]

but jjl has really good black and white

[light lion]

I dont think any manga is superior in b&w

[analog ether]

why do you even care about whats happening in newer chapters then? Isn't everything you're being told just nonsence

[light lion]

Color makes it all better

[sly turret]

color doesn't make everything better

[light lion]

For me it does

[sly turret]

sometimes manga can look better in black and white

[analog ether]

Also, weird take tbh

[light lion]

Its personal preference really

[analog ether]

like

coloured berserk

[queen fox]

if you think colored manga is better than normal manga, than that's kinda sad ngl

[light lion]

I dont think its sad at all

[queen fox]

why limit yourself?

[light lion]

Its literally just personal preference

[stark fossil]

If you're just not reading b&w I would understand but why ask for spoilers

[light lion]

Lmao

Well, im just curious really

I wanna know if anything interesting is happening in the part atm

Even if im not caught up

[stark fossil]

A few interesting things are happening to people you don't know yet

[light lion]

Facts

[vague marsh]

[inner yew]

Damn Yoshiteru and Holly have a 14 year difference in age. Robbin’ the cradle

[queen fox]

how do you know?

[long flax]

You guys know a website to easily download the parts in non color?

I kind of want to see what they all look like without it

[winter adder]

https://hiwamatanoboru.com/category/jojolion/

@long flax

[long flax]

Thanks

[minor ore]

||for a second there i thought we were going to lose mitsuba but i feel worse for tsurugi now||

[upper knoll]

Tsurugi will live

[ancient depot]

tsurugi is actually glitching like goldeneye geddan

[supple totem]

I'm worried about josuke

[minor ore]

the final fight is going on with literally every important character while the protagonist is unconscious 20 km aways

[supple totem]

Even if he had a 400 iq i have no idea to how he would even lay a finger on the headocter

And everything around him could kill him

[minor ore]

God that new jojo lion manga got me crying even though ||i hate tsurugi a bit, I still felt bad||

[old marlin]

This is pretty nice that yall censor yourselves

[minor ore]

Of course, I wouldn’t want to spoil for anyone

tin-foil hat theory: akefu is the guy that sold yausho that rock animal hair pin

Oh damn, but akefu ||looks a bit more beat up at times in the style|| but we can’t really see his face in this

Like ||his face is hella wrinkly, since he may be old. So in this it could be him younger of course before he got all old ||

[toxic narwhal]

What is even happening in jojolion now?

[thorn pier]

I agree with you @supple totem, like, Josuke's plan to fucking kill himself so he can get to the hospital was so stupid lol

[supple totem]

Yes

[toxic narwhal]

That plan makes a bit of sense

[thorn pier]

but it will undoubtedly work somehow

[toxic narwhal]

Like, if he cant directly chase the hd

[supple totem]

like joseph somehow managed to beat cars

[minor ore]

cars

i dont remember cars in jojo

[toxic narwhal]

Then he just finds a way to get there unwillingly

[minor ore]

was mcqueen there?

[thorn pier]

yes but the head doctor can just go away, can't he?

he would know that josuke is there

[toxic narwhal]

Idk

This arc is really weird

The head doctor seems to be everywere

[minor ore]

why though

[thorn pier]

yeah I think that was a timeskip

[toxic narwhal]

It was?

[minor ore]

i dont get why hes following mitsuba

[toxic narwhal]

I dont get why he doesnt wanna be chased

[kind owl]

@toxic narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

i wonder if his stand name would be Dont Stop Me Now

[toxic narwhal]

I mean, what could happen if josuke met him?

@minor ore perfect

Just perfect

Anyone knows how longer till the new rokakaka is ready?

Cause by this point i have lost the track of time

[minor ore]

from what we saw in the panels its 10 am when josuke wakes up in the hospital

so about a day i believe

[toxic narwhal]

Ok

[minor ore]

still i think theres 2 or 3 more chapters until we see the new fruit

[toxic narwhal]

Shit, all that?

That will take too long

[thorn pier]

probably more

[toxic narwhal]

Im tired of all this damn mystery, i want some awnsers

[thorn pier]

me too

[toxic narwhal]

This is starting to get boring

[thorn pier]

really? I think it's pretty exciting

like, tsurigi is being turned to stone now

[toxic narwhal]

We already know he will be fine

[thorn pier]

of course, but something exciting is bound to happen when he will turn out fine

[supple totem]

in exhange for killing his whole family

[thorn pier]

possibly

[toxic narwhal]

Probably something about norisuke

Since i presume he will die

[thorn pier]

yeah but he won't be the one to sacrifice himself for tsurigi

since tsurigi is keeping him hidden... when he's dead

and not stone

[toxic narwhal]

Wonder what will happen

I dont even care about the head doctor, i just wanna know what happened to norisuke

[minor ore]

you can expect part 8 to be more longer than part 7

possibly more than 100 chapers

[toxic narwhal]

Crap

[thorn pier]

almost definitely more than 100 chapters

I'm almost thinking it will be around 110-120

[toxic narwhal]

Were near the 90th chapter, and i still dont know who the villain is

[kind owl]

@toxic narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

[winter adder]

I thought we’ve already seen it, it’s the rokakaka cactus

[toxic narwhal]

Worst villain then

Barelly does anything

[winter adder]

Jobin ?

[toxic narwhal]

Idk

I dont understand what his endgame is

He wants to change the higashikata fruit store, or somehing else?

[thorn pier]

he just wants the rokakaka to get his business to be better and save tsurigi

[toxic narwhal]

If he wants to save tsurugi

[thorn pier]

that's what we know now, at least

[sly turret]

I think if it is jobin, he has to be hiding something

[toxic narwhal]

Would make more sense to join josuke

[minor ore]

i mean the fruit specifically, not the branches @winter adder

[winter adder]

O

[toxic narwhal]

Instead of being shady as fuck

[minor ore]

jobin isnt the villian you goddman pieces of shi-

[toxic narwhal]

So is it cazzo?

[sly turret]

cazzo???

[thorn pier]

really though, all the people in the higashikata estate could get their wishes fulfilled if they'd work together (excluding caato)

[kind owl]

@thorn pier, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

[winter adder]

Has Kaato even done anything

[toxic narwhal]

I think thats her name

[sly turret]

Caato

[toxic narwhal]

Oh, its caato

[minor ore]

caato

[sly turret]

and she has literally done nothing aside from call jobin and get out of jail

so if she is the main villain

I give up

[toxic narwhal]

So the villain could be jobin, caato, the head doctor...

Or joshu

[thorn pier]

tooru

[winter adder]

“According to Meti,” she was most likely the one that shipped the rock humans in

[thorn pier]

tsurigi is a possibilty too

[minor ore]

why jobin tho

[sly turret]

jobin is the most likely

[toxic narwhal]

Cause hes a red herring

[sly turret]

he has the most developed character

[thorn pier]

villains are usually not developed too much until the end

[toxic narwhal]

Hes been show as a possible villain the whole manga

[sly turret]

what about valentine

or pucci

[minor ore]

how tho

[sly turret]

wdym how tho

[toxic narwhal]

Hes kinda opposing josuke

And working with the rock humans

[minor ore]

just cause he has a different plan with the fruit then josuke

[sly turret]

he literally killed a mom and said he wouldve killed the kid if she had a stand

[thorn pier]

yeah I guess pucci got his backstory shown early... not too much for valentine though imo

pucci is different too, since he kinda won

[minor ore]

you do know he did that to protect his familly

[sly turret]

pucci didnt win

[winter adder]

What about Yasuho

[thorn pier]

"kinda won"

[toxic narwhal]

Then why doesnt he joins josuke

[winter adder]

During the Blue Hawaii arc

[minor ore]

no one fuckin knows

[toxic narwhal]

There's no reason for he to get rid of josuke

[winter adder]

Why did Kira steal the fruit. He could’ve just bought it and none of this would’ve happened

[minor ore]

but if he wanted to get rid of josuke dont you think he wouldve done it already?

[sly turret]

bc its an insane amount of money

[toxic narwhal]

It actually counter productive

[sly turret]

he said he doesn't care about josuke

[toxic narwhal]

Well, he doesnt want to be linked with his death

[minor ore]

how would he be the antagonist to josuke then

[sly turret]

he doesn't care if he lives or dies

[toxic narwhal]

Even though he could really help him

Since they both want the rokakaka

[thorn pier]

yes but they couild share

[minor ore]

thats basic rivalry

[thorn pier]

they could share, easily

we've been shown that only a fraction of a rokakaka is needed to heal someone

[minor ore]

this is a different rokakaka

[sly turret]

the new rokakaka mixes shit around

between people

[minor ore]

and no you need 2/3rds of it i believe

[thorn pier]

oh

I thought it worked the same way

[sly turret]

nah

[toxic narwhal]

They could grow more

[sly turret]

if it worked the same then why would everyone want it so badly

[thorn pier]

like, I know it doesn't work the same way with the healing and stuff

[sly turret]

there would be no point

[minor ore]

they cant wait for more to grow

[thorn pier]

but with how much you would need to eat

[toxic narwhal]

Why?

[minor ore]

tsurugi and holi are in serious conditions

hell tsurugi is already in the process

[toxic narwhal]

Holly is?

[minor ore]

yeah holly

[toxic narwhal]

Why is she even in the story

[thorn pier]

motivation for josuke

[minor ore]

cause thats josuke's goal

[sly turret]

shes literally josukes entire motivation

[minor ore]

Also she created the rokakaka research lab

[toxic narwhal]

No, i get that

[grave tulip]

She's technically his mom cause he's half Kira

[minor ore]

same shit why holly was in part 3

I hope we see Holly next chapter

[toxic narwhal]

But like, he just wants to save her because....he wants to

[sly turret]

did you read last months chapter

[toxic narwhal]

No connection to him whatsoever(not counting kira)

[minor ore]

and why does jobin wanna save tsurugi

he wants to

whats the difference

[sly turret]

theres like an entire fuckin page about josuke and holly

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[toxic narwhal]

Thats a lot of existential stuff

[thorn pier]

yes but tsurigi is actually part of the plot unlike holly

[thorn pier]

not that holly isn't, she just isn't directly

[toxic narwhal]

Im really not in the mindset to consider this stuff

[minor ore]

I guess Holly is just a plot point given how little she's appeared

[sly turret]

shes like part 3 holly

[toxic narwhal]

Yeah, but part 3 holly was the whole motivation to the story

[minor ore]

Holly is just like Holly

[toxic narwhal]

Here, saving holly is kinda just throw in to keep the rokakaka relevant

[minor ore]

you think hes gonna use the kira half of himself on holly if he were to get the rokakaka?

[toxic narwhal]

Im not sure

[kind owl]

@toxic narwhal, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

[toxic narwhal]

But if he did that, would that create a new person?

[minor ore]

pretty sure that would just be josefumi

I don't see the difference, Jotaro wanted to kill DIO to save his mother, Gappy wants the rokakaka to save his mother

[toxic narwhal]

Its kinda the same

But one was the whole motivation for the adventure

[minor ore]

Eating the new rokakaka would exchange Gappy's healthy parts with Holly's damaged ones, that's what happened with Kira & Josefumi

i mean josuke was literally called josefumi by damo and even identified himself as josefumi once

The fusion happened because of that + sacred ground

[toxic narwhal]

The other seems like a cheap way to make josuke want the rokakaka

Oh, sacred ground

What is that sacred ground

Why is it sacred?

[minor ore]

i dont think the rokakaka just switches damaged parts, kira lost his liver yet josefumi kept his whe he fed him the rokakaka

[toxic narwhal]

Josefumi also gained a new pair of balls

[minor ore]

Johnny died in Morioh with the Holy Corpse, if that didn't create the sacred ground I don't know what could have

We know he was buried near the Higashikata State

i hate that fact

so much

mostly cause i was confused as fuck when i saw johnny die

[toxic narwhal]

Love how johnny's death isnt relevant anymore

[minor ore]

Why would it be? It isn't part 7

at first i just thought a random boulder just fell on his head

[long flax]

He didn't see indiana jones obviously

[toxic narwhal]

So is the corpse in morioh now?

[minor ore]

It was taken by the US Government

You could theorize that they took Johnny's corpse instead of the Jesus'

[toxic narwhal]

Considering that they took johnny's corpse and not jesus

[old marlin]

If they did

[toxic narwhal]

Wouldnt that make morioh like "devil's palm"

[old marlin]

Not considering

[toxic narwhal]

?

[old marlin]

Yeah it would

It would explain how Josuke and Yasuho got a stand since they were in that general area

[toxic narwhal]

And no one got a corpse part

[old marlin]

Hm

That makes me kinda question something

[toxic narwhal]

What?

[minor ore]

so the bite marks are just random bite marks

[long flax]

Someone wanted a snack

[minor ore]

Invisible zombie Jesus biting people into stand users

[toxic narwhal]

Clearly dio came back

[minor ore]

dio never bit anyone

inb4 AU Limp Bizkit

he used his fingers

[old marlin]

This

[minor ore]

flaccid pancake

[old marlin]

It's a giant stretch but

[minor ore]

is that +sob+ ?

[old marlin]

Never mind

It's a huge stretch

And it doesn't make sense now that I think about it

[thorn pier]

I think it's sob

[long flax]

[toxic narwhal]

What is a huge stretch

[thorn pier]

I would like to know as well

[old marlin]

@toxic narwhal I was thinking maybe Daiya got the leg of the corpse as a little kid playing near the grounds where the Corpse could've been left since we know that's how she went blind, but it's just a huge stretch to me really

[slender scroll]

i dont think theres gonna be a main villain. i think there are just a bunch of groups with a bunch of goals and some of them clash with others

[kind owl]

@slender scroll, Your Stand Power is now level 16 !

[thorn pier]

that's what it's like right now

[minor ore]

It's clearly Iwasuke

[slender scroll]

you take that back

[minor ore]

He's going to take revenge

[thorn pier]

wait did iwasuke get killed by poor tom? I don't remember

[toxic narwhal]

Joshu is the main villain, clearly

[old marlin]

Iwasuke had a moment where he was shown to be alive

Hes still around

[toxic narwhal]

That man is orquestrating everything from the shadows

[thorn pier]

ah

[toxic narwhal]

@old marlin youre right, that is quite a stretch

You guys know what jojolion is missing?
The damn wall eyes

[old marlin]

Not any less than the corpse still being there tho

[toxic narwhal]

Is it just me or did the wall eyes vanished?

[slender scroll]

so did everything else from the first few arcs

[old marlin]

No?

They were mentioned a few chapters ago

[minor ore]

Wtf

You’re just gladlad now?

Also wall eyes are still relevant

But bite marks and memory man still haven’t been explained

[thorn pier]

I don't think memory man is important anymore.

Bite marks may not be either

[minor ore]

Yeah probably

This late in he probably decided to take it in a different direction

I wonder what he originally had planned for the bite marks though

[winter adder]

It would be nice to know who he is, though

[thorn pier]

yeah

[winter adder]

It’s a mystery story, you gotta solve the mystery! Nazowotoku and all that

[minor ore]

Bite marks were from dio

Dio is confirmed to be in part 8!

[winter adder]

It would have fangs!!!!

Unless it’s Alt. Diego, but why would he be biting people

Look I think zombie Jesus is standard at this point

[minor ore]

The flashback man is Diego’s great grandson Dongio

[winter adder]

Also Akefu’s lecture is about regeneration
They’re going to grow Diego back using what’s left of the rocks he ate and also Dongio

[vague marsh]

where is this universes iggy

thats what i want

[minor ore]

That weird ass rock dog

[vague marsh]

no please

[winter adder]

Was it ever explained why he could phase through walls, is that often asked

[minor ore]

rock powers

[winter adder]

Oh

He isn’t a rock animal, though, he can just do that now

Plus shouldn’t he have lost something when he ate the rokakaka
Unless that’s why he is the way he is...
I thought only the special cool boy rokakaka could potentially save someone because it has Higashikata Powers

[minor ore]

Iwasuke is a rock animal tho

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

[minor ore]

Unless you're talking about someone else

[winter adder]

So what did eating the rokakaka do

[minor ore]

Nothing probably

My guess is that Iwasuke was just idle in rock mode, Yotsuyu approached him with food and it switched to animal mode

thus fooling Tsurugi to believe that rokakaka would just heal the disease

[winter adder]

But Rock Animals weren’t even introduced as a concrete concept until Doremi
Unless Araki’s brain is actually massive, I hope it is

[odd monolith]

What.

The.

Fuck.

Araki "Ito Junji" Hirohiko

[icy bluff]

The body horror is insane in this chapter.

[formal blaze]

Paper Tsurugi and the Thousand-year plant

[minor ore]

So when the drop landed on tsurugi it did a ton of damage like when josuke got caught in the rain

[queen fox]

it was hot oil too

[formal blaze]

I think it just pierced right through his face

[queen fox]

so that's damaging

[minor ore]

Oh

[formal blaze]

But he's still alive because he turned his face into paper

[minor ore]

I thought it was because tsurugi was trying to pursue the head doctor

[queen fox]

did he?

[formal blaze]

No I think this chapter was meant to show that it's not activated by pursuing

[minor ore]

so what the hell is coming out of his face

Wouldn’t hot oil leave a burn mark and not cause him to start bleeding

[formal blaze]

Folded paper

His head turned into origami

[queen fox]

no

it was more of the curse

[minor ore]

is that what his stand can do now

Apparently it’s due to the rock curse

[queen fox]

he could turn anything into oragami

[formal blaze]

That's not what the curse looks like though

[queen fox]

it can change

[minor ore]

So his stand is going out of control

that’s what it looks like

[formal blaze]

In this panel it shows that he transformed his body into origami because of his stand malfunctioning

The thing coming out of his head is a folded paper rift

The drop pierced right through his face

[queen fox]

ah

I didn't read the rouge stand part

[minor ore]

now that makes way more sense

Yeah

This is so weird like so much shit is happening in jojolion right now

[queen fox]

ya

we have like 4 different story lines

[minor ore]

Yeah

There’s so much man I hope this shit gets resolved soon

And why is the head doctor at the higashikata estate

[queen fox]

it will

Jojolion is for sure going to be way longer than part 7

[minor ore]

Akefu must be at the higashikata estate because of doctor woo getting killed right?

As well as searching for the new rokakaka

yeah why is he at the estate

[thorn pier]

he has been there before

[minor ore]

it will be resolved

but if you count a few months as soon

[thorn pier]

soon™

frick

[minor ore]

i still wish the head doctors stand was called Dont Stop Me Now

[thorn pier]

it might be

we don't know yet

[minor ore]

the name is literally the same as the ability so thats what i thought of

and its a queen song

[thorn pier]

yeah

[minor ore]

but it probably wont be

i hope it is though

[scarlet viper]

just read the new chapter

could someone recap me about what was the difference between the rokakaka and the new rokakaka

[thorn pier]

old rokakaka is on one person

[kind owl]

@thorn pier, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[thorn pier]

while the new one is on 2 people

like, the new rokakaka fused josefumi and kira together

it replaced some of kira's parts with those of josefumi

the old rokakaka works only on 1 person

for example, it replaced mitsuba's baby or something with her nose

[scarlet viper]

ohhhh yeah that makes sense

thank you

[thorn pier]

😄

[queen fox]

we actually don't fully understand the new rokakaka

but that's what we saw

[long flax]

It's not even new

It's a few years old now

[queen fox]

it's considered the new rokakaka since only 1 person used it

that's kinda new

and it was only just discovered again

and in universe

it's only a couple of months old

[brittle blade]

mom said it's my turn on the rokakaka

[queen fox]

mom said it's my turn to kill sacrifice

[winter adder]

Wait

If the new rokakaka can use other people since it was grown on the Higashikata estate
Does that mean other fruits grown there have similar properties as well

[queen fox]

no

the only reason it's different is likely the soil around the area of the wall eyes

[pliant sail]

I can't figure out what's going on in the last page of this new chapter

[kind owl]

@pliant sail, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

[winter adder]

Weren’t the Higashikatas sacrificing themselves for their kids using the land long before they appeared

[queen fox]

it's not because of the estate at all

it just happens to be there

[winter adder]

How did they do it befoooore

[pliant sail]

what's going on with the officer's body at the end there? I keep looking over the page but can't really tell -- officer's arm is going through Gappy's chest?

[winter adder]

I believe so

I guess he’ll have to eat a rokakaka and get

[brittle blade]

get got

[steep lodge]

the soil around the higashikata estate "transfers" something to somewhere else.
The soil has that property, probably, because Johnny buried the corpse in that area

[queen fox]

the soil has special properties, that what Born this way

is all about

[steep lodge]

kaato and jobin used the soil's "ability" to transfer the illness to the bully

[winter adder]

So the soil is special regardless of whether or not the Wall Eyes are around

[steep lodge]

yes

[winter adder]

Ahhhhhhh

[steep lodge]

the soil is special because of the corpse

[queen fox]

then born this way explained almost nothing lol, in those chapters, they specially said "around the wall eyes"

[kind owl]

@steep lodge, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[inner gust]

The wall eyes kinda appeared in part 7 iirc. Atleast from a visual design

[steep lodge]

and the rokakaka tree that grows on said soil got the ability to "transfer"

[minor ore]

part 7

[inner gust]

the wall eyes could just be a sub effect of the corpse

[minor ore]

O

[winter adder]

That’d be nice

[minor ore]

i thought you said disappeared in part 7

i was like huh

[queen fox]

the Johnny story line was for the road more than anything

[minor ore]

LOL

[inner gust]

lel

[minor ore]

i feel like johnny is burried in the temple caato brought jobin to when transfering the disease

[queen fox]

I don't think Johnny is the reason for the soil being different

[inner gust]

Its most likely all the crazy shit that happened in the part 8 town is due to the corpse being burried

[steep lodge]

no the corpse is the reason

[minor ore]

johnnys body could still be spinning even after death

[winter adder]

I mean it’s probably Jesus being buried near a tree for like five minutes because Johnny’ll never ever again

[inner gust]

Its the origin of all stands in part 7 outside of naturally born ones

[tidal solstice]

What if the new rokakaka pulls some bullshit like defusing josuke into his original 2 bodies. And then they lose all their memories of part 8.

[minor ore]

we know that johnny is buried in that temple

[winter adder]

It would be spinning in the same place, which wasn’t near the Higashikata house ?

[minor ore]

why did caato bring jobin to it when transfering tho

[winter adder]

How did they get around that

[minor ore]

couldnt she just have done it on the spot

[inner gust]

Like just burry him anywhere?

[minor ore]

because they do it there as a tradition i believe

[winter adder]

Wasn’t that near Shakedown Road

[inner gust]

Wasn't it in a secluded sport too

[minor ore]

i think it has to do something with johnnys corpse still spinning

we know he hit himself with act 4 before his death

[queen fox]

did he tho?

[inner gust]

yes

it shows it

[kind owl]

@queen fox, Your Stand Power is now level 13 !

[winter adder]

That’s what would give his corpse transfer powers

[minor ore]

he is dead but we know tust act4 keeps object spinning for infinity

return of Johnny joestar as the main villain

its possible that johnny became a holy corpse himself

[winter adder]

I’m yelling you

[minor ore]

a saint

[steep lodge]

johnny used the corpse to "cure" the illness of his wife, but
he actually just transferred the illness to his son

[winter adder]

The boulder possesses him

[tidal solstice]

Speaking of which....

[cyan viper]

hmmmmmmm

[minor ore]

johnny

confirmed

even the feet

c r i p p l e

[tidal solstice]

OH FUCK HE WAS 30

[minor ore]

i do feel like johnnys corpse became holy

not as powerful as the real holy corpse

its likely that johnny caused the shakdown road tree stand too

[queen fox]

can I actually get the panel of Johnny shoting himself

I can't find it

[cyan viper]

sends Mista panel epicly xd

[minor ore]

isnt it interesting how users with act stands can bring their old evolutions

[minor ore]

its like having 4 different stands with 4 different abilities

[steep lodge]

chapter 22

[queen fox]

he didn't fucking shot himself then

[analog ether]

Previous page

[queen fox]

it's an off panel event

he used it to transfer the disease to himself

you misread it

Johnny never shot himself again

if anything, he only created the shakedown road stand

[steep lodge]

who said that johnny shot himself?

[queen fox]

calfpie: i think it has to do something with johnnys corpse still spinning
we know he hit himself with act 4 before his death

[steep lodge]

ok

but I don't think that it matters if it's the corpse or johnny's (holy?) corpse

[inner gust]

Would Johnnys corpse be considered holy because of the golden spin though?

[queen fox]

Johnny did to saint-esque events but he isn't the reason the soil acts like that

[minor ore]

What is the reason

[queen fox]

the wall eyes

[minor ore]

Oh

[inner gust]

The way the wall eyes work is a lot like how devils palm was created

[queen fox]

it was explained in the Born This Way arc

[inner gust]

like how an earthquake warped the land

except instead of giant craters we have wall eyes

[steep lodge]

but jobin and kaato used the soil before the wall eyes appeared, didn't they?

[minor ore]

I really gotta go back and reread part 8

[inner gust]

@steep lodge I think?

[queen fox]

the wall eye existed for awhile now

[inner gust]

Isnt kira supposed to be older than joubin

[analog ether]

Nah, I think the holy corpse essentially created the Wall Eyes. Keep in mind, the backstory said that Les Fuellies started to appear after Johnny brung the corpse to Japan, and the fact that the soil had the same properties as the Wall Eyes long before they actually formed out of the ground.

(les fuellies is the leaf stand btw)

[queen fox]

so 100 no, more than that years later, they just appear?

that's strange

[analog ether]

Yes, because of the earthquake

[inner gust]

@queen fox Jesus's corpse was in devils palm before the meteor reshaped it IIRC

so it was still holy just not warped and all crazy

[steep lodge]

https://mangadex.org/chapter/126381/2

[minor ore]

the wall eyes rose because of the tsunami that was about to hit morioh tho right

[inner gust]

That and the bomb kira set off

[steep lodge]

the wall eyes aren't visible once

[minor ore]

it protected them

[supple totem]

is araki going to take a break next month?

[inner gust]

Idk

[steep lodge]

in the chapter with kaato and jobin

[analog ether]

The bomb kira set off wasn't an earthquake, it was just a tremor

[inner gust]

but yeah IDK if johnny could be considered holy

[analog ether]

Also, Araki isn't taking a month off

[inner gust]

just cause he kicked it with jesus

[supple totem]

WOooOO

[queen fox]

hmmm

[supple totem]

pokemon sword and shied plus a new jojolion chapter!

[queen fox]

maybe its like, the wall eyes were always there but the actual earthquake just uplifted it

[inner gust]

@queen fox Thats most likely

[analog ether]

That's not the earthquake though, it's just a tremor

[inner gust]

Uh

[queen fox]

this is chapter 53

[analog ether]

The earthquake was based on the ACTUAL 2011 earthquake that fucked up Japan

[inner gust]

Im pretty sure it was a earthquake

right

[queen fox]

the chapter right before the earthquake

[inner gust]

Cause Kira blew up the port

[queen fox]

literally, the next page, and earthquake is happening

[minor ore]

kira blowing up the pory was so awesome

[analog ether]

Kira did not start a fucking Earthquake that ruined Japan what?

[minor ore]

nice autocorrect

[analog ether]

Re-read the first chapter

[minor ore]

port*

i dont think caato brought jobin and the dead body there for tradition only

nothing to see here just a mom spending time with her son

[queen fox]

the wall eyes existed before then

did you not read the page I showed?

[analog ether]

Ok, let me breakdown the timeline then

[minor ore]

the wall eyes were always there or were there for a long time and earthquakes cause em to rise

[winter adder]

Wait, didn’t Kira try to steal the rokakaka in August

[minor ore]

they sensed the wave that was coming probably caused by a little disturbance

[queen fox]

lemme see rq

[minor ore]

and thats why they got even higher

And the wall eyes were originally underneath the earth because of the holy corpse right?

its like they were alive

and they are alive

like a massive rock human awakened

that would explain the holes

Was Jesus a rock person

[queen fox]

the wall eyes first appeared, the earthquake after Kira's death made them appear larger

making it more well known

[minor ore]

so if kyo dies theyll get even larger?

[analog ether]

1. Corpse comes to Japan, is buried at the place that would later become the wall eyes and the first stands start to appear in Morioh
2. The "soil" that would later become the Wall Eyes has existed for a very long time.
3. The earthquake in 2011 happens, which is an actual earthquake in real life, as explained on that page, and the Wall Eyes form, creating massive uplifts in Morioh
4. Kira blows the fuck out of the dock, causing a big tremor that shakes up the Wall Eyes and uplifts them
5. Kira and Josefumi are buried and part 8 begins a few days later

[inner gust]

Seems like kira blowing up the yacht caused an aftershock

yeah

[minor ore]

imagine the wall eyes being a spawn or like a nest for rock humans

[analog ether]

The wall eyes existed and were uplifted before Kira caused that tremor, that is the literal place they are fighting at

[kind owl]

@winter adder, Your Stand Power is now level 12 !

[queen fox]

that would make sense since the rock humans go to Morioh

[minor ore]

Whip

[inner gust]

It most likely got changed by the holy shit around it like the devils palm did and the weird parts of its area

[winter adder]

But they were shipped in on boats

[inner gust]

and the creation of stand users

[winter adder]

And they sell a New Guinean fruit

[analog ether]

Those damn new guinenans

[minor ore]

rokakaka originates from an island of rock humans right?

[queen fox]

no

just new guinenans

[minor ore]

I think they were just normal people

oh

[inner gust]

@minor ore Outside of ones born from da sex

[kind owl]

@inner gust, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[minor ore]

?

[queen fox]

what ever happened to that baby?

[inner gust]

Rock humans can be created through natural birth I thought

[minor ore]

Oh yeah I think so

[inner gust]

Or atleast one was

[winter adder]

And interspecies breeding

[inner gust]

(Its probablly toru or the doctor)

[minor ore]

caato cant be half rock human too

since humans and rock humans cant breed

There was a page where they went into detail on rock humans

i do think 2 rock humans can create a child

There was a panel about breeding

[kind owl]

@steep lodge, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

[inner gust]

Aren't almost all rockhumans/creatures stand users?

[minor ore]

erotic

And I think calfpie has it right 2 rock humans = baby but rock human and regular human doesn’t = baby

[analog ether]

Moist erotic skin

[winter adder]

I could have swoooorn

[queen fox]

Kaato is half-rock human theory

[minor ore]

a fusion with the rokakaka that creates a half human half rock human creature is possible i think

what properties would that person have tho

[winter adder]

How could Haato be a bikini model if she’s partially a rock human

Geeeez

[queen fox]

bruh

[minor ore]

and how come she isnt aging

[minor ore]

or is aging very gracefully

[queen fox]

I have a question

why is Jobin working with the rokakaka?

[winter adder]

Damn

[queen fox]

he's very secretive of it

[minor ore]

cause it makes the higashikata money

[inner gust]

You guys remember when Soft and wet couldn't break a rock.

Then proceeded to shatter a rock humans skull

based araki

[minor ore]

fools norisuke that its the shops sales

[winter adder]

1. Save Tsurugi
2. Why wouldn’t you want to become the best parlor if the most prized fruit was just being passed around?

[minor ore]

i think it was adressed in the chapter where they were at the higashikata fruit parlor

As well as he wants to use it to cure tsurugi

Oh

[queen fox]

Gappy was likely not good at using Soft and Wet

[minor ore]

Damn I was too late

[winter adder]

It has a C in power even though blah blah stand stats

[queen fox]

similar to how Giorno has never used GE to fight before

[minor ore]

how rock humans usually share a spike design too

why does jobin have them too

he is not a rock human

[queen fox]

cause Kaato is half rock human

[minor ore]

Or is he

[queen fox]

and kaato's dad is the head doctor

[minor ore]

That would also mean every other child is rock human

[inner gust]

Idk about that

[minor ore]

that would be one big incest tho

They’ll all combine to become the super rock human

How is that incest

[queen fox]

Kaato is the mv (in my thoery), since she can't be on her property, she's asking her dad for help

[minor ore]

If kaato is 1/2 rock human all of her children would be 1/4

[winter adder]

But I was wrong, I was wrong! They can’t birth children, only fuck!!!!!

[minor ore]

it explains why they all have stands

[queen fox]

yep

[minor ore]

I think it’s because of the wall eyes they got stands

[winter adder]

And Haato can’t be a swimsuit model if she can’t survive in water for long periods of time

[minor ore]

Or like Johnny being a saint

joshuu got his stand from the bite marks or?

[queen fox]

they're like 1/4th

and yes

[minor ore]

im dumb

[queen fox]

he did

[minor ore]

weirdly paisley park was acting up even in chapter 1 too

when yasuho called the police but instead she connected to the fire department

[queen fox]

the reason Jobin is aware of the organization, is because Kaato is the daughter of the head doctor

[minor ore]

yea

[winter adder]

But

[minor ore]

HDs name could be fake too

[queen fox]

yep

[steep lodge]

it is fake

[winter adder]

Was it not just shown that rock humans can’t reproduce with humans

[queen fox]

also Kaato's original name, no sign of it

[minor ore]

just like it turns out to be Norisuke

And its incest

[queen fox]

we only know her a Kaato Higashikata

[minor ore]

yea

her family name isnt shown in the tree too

its just Kaato

same with Tooru

his family name is yet to be revealed

maybe he is the uncle xd

[queen fox]

I believe Kaato is the mastermind behind a lot of things

for one

why is the HD attacking mitsuba of all people?

[minor ore]

she ruled everything from prison

Because he’s looking for the rokakaka

we know she was acting well there to get privileges

Also she had a past in killing Wuu tomoki

that allowed her to controll everyhing

Part*

Not to mention she was the one they were using to get closer to the rokakaka

[queen fox]

it's because Mitsuba is the one thing stopping Jobin from fully doing things properly

[minor ore]

Which is probably why they’re going after her

Wym

They’re still looking for the rokakaka fruit

That’s why they’re searching the higashikata

[queen fox]

is Mitsuba aware of it?

I don't recall her knowing it

also, why only fucking Mitsuba?

Yasuho is fully aware of it

but he only targets Mitsuba?

[minor ore]

Because they suspect the higashikata family probably

And we don’t know what role tooru is playing so what’s going to happen to her is still up in the air

[queen fox]

true

[minor ore]

It looks like he might just actually be an ally though?

[queen fox]

ya

[minor ore]

Unless by giving her this info he’s leading her into a trap

Still too early to tell

[queen fox]

but it's strange, since the HD showed good control of range

and he knows Yashuo

so it's really bizarre atm

[minor ore]

Yeah it’s strange

Maybe he has to know first

Like who is pursuing him

[queen fox]

Yashuo is actively doing it though

Mitsuba isn't

Yashuo even has a image of his face in her head

[minor ore]

Yeah maybe araki just didn’t think of it

[queen fox]

or it's because Mitsuba makes it hard for him to get to Jobin

[minor ore]

Either that or it’s like mamezuku where she’s more worried about helping josuke than getting the head doctor? Isk

Idk*

[queen fox]

anything works

heck, your idea might be right

[minor ore]

I hope we get an explanation as to why the HD is at the higashikata next chapter

Or rather what he intends to do there

[steep lodge]

he probably waits for jobin to get the new rokakaka to cure tsurugi

[queen fox]

Kaato next chapter??????

if my idea is right, Kaato should appear next month

[minor ore]

btw

does holy have a stand

she was able to see paisley park

[queen fox]

as we know

[steep lodge]

she sees paisley park

[queen fox]

perhaps?

[steep lodge]

when yasuho visited her

[minor ore]

weird how many parallels kaato and her have

[steep lodge]

she saw her stand

[queen fox]

ya

[minor ore]

holy also created the rokakaka lab

[queen fox]

plot twist, they're related

[minor ore]

at the hospital

[minor ore]

wait

kaato and holy could be sisters

[queen fox]

I think it's just her noticing Yasuho's shadow

since Araki likes using the shadow for Paisley Park

[steep lodge]

second picture

[minor ore]

why did holy created

why is at the HDs hospital

[queen fox]

what chapter is it?

[steep lodge]

12

https://mangadex.org/chapter/126299/12

[queen fox]

oh shit

so she has a stand

[steep lodge]

y

[minor ore]

holy is involved with the whole rokakaka thing too

[queen fox]

likely her sickness

if we get a date for when she made it

[minor ore]

Her stand could be named down with the sickness

[queen fox]

we can pin point her timeline a bit better