jojolion

[rigid fern]

People thought it was going to be done by now

[old marlin]

Jojo fans are just stubborn

[rigid fern]

Imagine that

[old marlin]

Extremly stubborn

[minor ore]

Antagonists always have one of the strongest stands

[rigid fern]

Its like when I went back and found the old jojo internet forums

[old marlin]

They need a text bubble saying "he is the villain!!"

[minor ore]

SK aint one of those

[old marlin]

Neither was KQ

[minor ore]

KQ?

[rigid fern]

And saw them talking about how they were excited for arakis new series "Steel ball run"

[analog ether]

Uh huh
Tell me, which character has had the most development outside of Josuke?

[rigid fern]

Ignorance is bliss

[old marlin]

Jobin

[analog ether]

Which has had the most screentime?

[minor ore]

Jobin

[long wasp]

Yasuho

[old marlin]

Either Yasuho or Jobin

[minor ore]

And tsurugi

[analog ether]

Exactly

[long wasp]

Yasuho is main villain

[warm gulch]

Norisuke is main villain

[analog ether]

A villain doesn't "need" to be anything
A villain can be whatever the fuck he needs to be

[long wasp]

the villains needs to be hot

[old marlin]

That being said Jobin is the most direct opposition to Jousuke

Thusly, he is the antagonist to Jousuke

[minor ore]

Honestly im willing to bet part 8 wont have a main villian

[old marlin]

Who is our main character

And who is his biggest challenger

You can Like Jobin and still see him as the antagonist of JJL

[minor ore]

90 chapters in and not a single clue on the main villian

[old marlin]

I myself love everything about Jobin

[minor ore]

The thing is

I see him as a secondary jojo

Not a bad guy

[rigid fern]

Itd be an interesting twist to just not have a main villain

Lmao what if dio shows up again

[old marlin]

Thank god he hasnt

Only part where DIO or a DIO Clone isnt even mentioned

[analog ether]

When people say "won't have a main villain" do they mean in the sense that it's going to have a bunch of different people of different alliences fighting near the end of the part, or do they mean that in the literal sense that anyone could just up and be the final obstacle for Josuke? Because I hope it's the former.

[minor ore]

KONO DIO DA

[ancient depot]

part 8 has a main antagonistic force, just not one singular big bad sitting on his throne at the final level

[old marlin]

It is the former LPC

But they still act like Jobin is on the side of Jousuke

[rigid fern]

Thatd be cool

[analog ether]

Then good
Glad this fanbase isn't completely off the rails

[rigid fern]

A mass fucking war of stand users

[old marlin]

Pretty much

Almost there

[rigid fern]

Avengers endgame but with crazy stand powers everywhere

[minor ore]

I have a strong feeling jobin will die

I hope not, but i get a feeling he will

[old marlin]

I get that with Yasuho but its baseless to think that really

Shell probably be ok

[long wasp]

Yasuho is main villain, she's gonna be the one to win

[minor ore]

My prediction is jobin getting the new rokakaka and giving it to tsurugi but later dying in the process leaving tsurugi with a decision

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !

[minor ore]

Will he eat the rokakaka or give it to josuke

[minor ore]

Imagine having a non automatic stand

[coral cliff]

JoJolion: Crunchyroll edition

Malleable and Moist

Parsely Pink

Nuts and Bolts

King Puzzle

Memory Bed

Born through certain circumstances

I am made of minerals

Scott Lock

Orange Juice

Speed Master

Blue Tropical

Deadly Queen

Happy Happy Happy

Origami Night King

Double Why

Lovey Dovey Extra

Miracle Worker

Mind Storm

Atmosphere Kid

Doctor Woozy

[fading cove]

i heard a really good d4c one

dimes for crimes

ITS SO GOOD

[sturdy fossil]

Just started reading Jojolion

it has a strong start

the first couple chapters

[viscid mountain]

At this point I gave up on trying to predict what's going to happen in jojo I mean just think on the theories people would had made while sbr was publishing I'm sure no one said "Dio is going to appear and is going to have the world after we beat the main villain". Whatever happens is going to happen and no one can be certain on what's going on in araki's head

[minor ore]

I can

[vague marsh]

i agree him getting a dio with the world was an asspull i thought it would be cool if he just got another scary monsters diego

[minor ore]

i thought it was dope as fuck

i lost my shit when i saw the world

[void viper]

It was an epic gachi gamer moment

[brave sentinel]

I like large fries

[analog skiff]

Brain Storm is super underrated CMV

[edgy mortar]

sofuto and wetto

[tribal summit]

Is vol. 16 the latest translated scan?

[old marlin]

Last I checked it was volume 21

[rain zephyr]

Chapter when?

[quasi raft]

Should be on the 18th

[old marlin]

2 more weeks

[surreal island]

Does josuke compete with giorno in having a stand that does what the plot needs

I personally think giorno has him beat with that

[void viper]

giorno 100% has him beat with that

[ancient depot]

josuke's powers arent nearly as malleable as giorno

neither of the josukes

[delicate cedar]

I mean, other than one instance specific to the in the anime, once it's set up it doesn't contradict itself (referring to GE). So what's the problem? @surreal island ....or maybe I'm just overthinking what you're saying

[minor ore]

what about that time giorno just snapped his fingers and made ants appear on the arrow

[daring bear]

I got caught up on jojolion yesterday!

I'm just wondering how frequently are new chapters released and translated into English?

[minor ore]

I believe they're released monthly

[analog ether]

the 18/19th of every month

[daring bear]

ok thanks so much

[viscid mountain]

@minor ore the ants came out of his blood that was on the artow

[minor ore]

yeah but he has to touch it first to give it life

[tribal summit]

How often are the jojos colored adventure scans released

[viscid mountain]

Well the blood was inside him so I guess that counts

[tribal summit]

Where should I read the B&W scans since the colored ones arent out

[hidden smelt]

manganelo

[tribal summit]

Ight thanks

[minor ore]

Mangadex

[soft lichen]

Man i can't wait untill 2021 when i can finally read about plant appraiser in colored

[minor ore]

It’s already out bro

[soft lichen]

There's only 2

[minor ore]

In Japan

Just learn Japanese

Boom

There ya go

[soft lichen]

U rite

[minor ore]

[soft lichen]

hey why don't u put on a swimsuit

[minor ore]

Because I’m not smart

[soft lichen]

Is it maybe due to u not believing in god

[minor ore]

Joshu is a legend

[daring bear]

Joshu is my dad

[minor ore]

Lucky

[soft lichen]

No this is patrick

Also let's be real here no one wants to sleep w joshu

[minor ore]

Can I just ask why joshu is trying to cop a feel on his family members

[soft lichen]

He's from Alabama

[daring bear]

OwO

do you think if jojolion gets animated Joshu is going to become speedwagon

everyone's waifu

[soft lichen]

Isn't Doggystyle just bootleg stone free?

[kind owl]

@soft lichen, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

[hazy crystal]

Well yes but actually no

[soft lichen]

Explain

[hazy crystal]

no

[soft lichen]

Pls

[queen fox]

Araki already explained that stands evolve to fit a situation

[icy bluff]

Doggy style is a nerfed Stone free in a sense because DS can’t do a stand rush but it does things that SF can’t do. I personally think it’s a good thing because OP stands that punch all of the time gets boring.

[analog skiff]

TBH I feel it should be changed to him either simply just using doggy style to turn his amputated left arm into a more "hand"-like thing but not actually heal it or have him find it perfectly fine due to Guerrilla's effect wearing off and somehow re-attaching it.

[minor ore]

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

[tender hound]

The wall eyes are just Superfly alt universe

[analog skiff]

No that's Rai's Ski Lift

[surreal island]

^

[odd monolith]

not reading in B&W

[old marlin]

Always a repulsive sight

[long wasp]

[upper knoll]

Whats wrong with reading coloured?

[analog skiff]

Funny that most of Urban Guerrilla's lyrics are based off the idea of the character in the song blowing people up but Urban's the only one who blows up.

Also this set of lyrics from Brain Storm is really relevant to the finale of the fight

I can't get no peace
Until I get into motion
Sign my release from
This planet's erosion
Paranoia police have
Sussed out my potion
You gotta help me or
There'll be an explosion

[rich hearth]

@upper knoll I’ve seen some people say that the colors aren’t that great for 8 and people think it’s better to just read in Black and White because Araki’s artstyle has evolved to the point in which everything looks clear and color isn’t necessary for the manga. About the only two things I can think of about what’s “wrong” with reading color

[analog skiff]

Sorry for how much I talk about Brain Storm but I really think it's an underrated arc that I love so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6du4NhVCMs also this version of brain storm is soooo good

[rich hearth]

Araki: So I heard you guys liked Ciocollata and Secco so I decided to combine them together like Josuk8 for this adaptation of the story

[analog skiff]

I mean

How are they combined?

Literally the only similar trait I can think of is Urban Guerrilla's horrendous pain tolerance

and overreaction

[rich hearth]

Does Urban grunt and growl while talking? Or am I remembering horribly

[analog skiff]

No

Maybe he does

I can't remember

[rich hearth]

I think I’m beef braining rn

I need to reread

[analog skiff]

Yeah no

I don't think he does

he mostly just acts really fucking nasty

[upper knoll]

I first misread Arctic Monkey's Brianstorm as Brainstorm so I thought Araki might have been referencing that song

[analog skiff]

nah

It's Hawkwind's brainstorm

Good song

[upper knoll]

Never heard

Of the song and of the artist

[analog skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6du4NhVCMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGxi1-n_-0 oh yeah and this is his name

Doremi Fasol Latido is the name of the album these songs were originally in

[upper knoll]

Yeah I knew that piece of trivia already

[analog skiff]

yeah

the lyrics of the final main verse of brain storm are pretty relevant to the fight

[upper knoll]

Gonna listen later

Right now Im having a gaming session

[analog skiff]

imma copypaste the final verse

I can't get no peace
Until I get into motion
Sign my release from
This planet's erosion
Paranoia police have
Sussed out my potion
You gotta help me or
There'll be an explosion

[minor ore]

i kinda see it

cio and urban are both doctors

and their partners have abilities that let them traverse underground

and both cio and urban have a sort of 'virus' type stand

but that's about it

[analog skiff]

@minor ore both of their fights deal a lot with the lower area being dangerous

both of the doctors spend part of the fight in some sort of vehicle

[minor ore]

oh yeah that too

[analog skiff]

Both of them are really sadistic fucks too

And the digging guy is a "pet"

I think there's meant to be some form of clear parallel

[minor ore]

yeah

[analog skiff]

I kinda imagine that Ozon Baby's active design bases itself after whoever plants the "seed".

So that's why it kind of looks like Jobin.

[minor ore]

????

[analog skiff]

So you know the weird

Wait

I've seen many people point out that the coat and head is similar to Jobin's

So it would make sense that the stand bases itself off the planter of the "seed"

So if Josuke planted it it would be wearing a sailor outfit

Also I love Josuke's design with the Sailor outfit mixed with sneakers

Gives him a really nice and unique look

Especially compared to the "Literally everyone wears suit shoes" of previous parts

[light lion]

Ima be real

I think the sneakers plus sailor outfit makes him look the most natural out of any joestar

And by natural I mean normal looking

Like this may be an unpopular opinion here but

Josuke part 8 is the only joestar with normal clothing

[analog skiff]

True

But it's expressive normal

[light lion]

Giorno has his titties out, jotaro has his hat, josuke part 4 has his fuckin hair, jolyne has green hair, and johnny has a horseshoe on his forehead

[analog skiff]

It's not weird looking

It's unique looking

[light lion]

And then joseph/johnathon are fuckin massive so they already look weird

[analog skiff]

Also

Johnny must have terrible posture with a horseshoe on his head

[light lion]

Probably

Things weighing him down dude lol

[sturdy fossil]

WHY

ARAKI

DONT MAKE YASUHO GO THRU HORRIBLE STUFF

SHE DOESNT DESERVE IT

DONT BE MEAN TO HER

[lucid fiber]

I like how much bullshit Yasuho deals with

She strong as heck

Probably the best girl in all of JoJo

[light lion]

Yeah like being raped by Joshu

[minor ore]

I honestly don't know what's the point of current arc

The cast is chasing nothing

[hidden smelt]

aren't Rai and Josuke chasing the head doctor who doesnt even have the rokkaka

[minor ore]

Exactly

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[hidden smelt]

they might find information that will further the story even if he doesnt have the rokkaka

[minor ore]

Hopefully

Well ig its ok since the manga is still ongoing

So we cant really predict what will happen

[hidden smelt]

it probably will be the last part but i hope Araki can do one more

[fading cove]

he said its more of a hobby now

like its therapeutic

[hidden smelt]

so he might do a part 9 but after just do a couple of one shots

[fading cove]

i think he just does what he wants now

listening to more vitamin c

araki said he was actively bad at himself for not finding about it earlier in his life

[hidden smelt]

are they really good?

[kind owl]

@hidden smelt, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[fading cove]

about to find out

i know the user is based on a movie

thats good

https://open.spotify.com/artist/4l8xPGtl6DHR2uvunqrl8r

[light lion]

Wait

Araki just creates manga as a hobby?

What a gamer

[hidden smelt]

I dont think in the beginning but now he can do it as a hobby

[fading cove]

since part 7 i think

no after

because i know he wanted to keep doing it

and didnt know where to go

so he went back

omfg

i just connected the dots

i found why main universe au jolyne is named irene

https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Gorgeous_Irene

[hidden smelt]

whats gorgeous Irene about?

[fading cove]

its a short

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-frH9n2CfQ

its 2 chapters

go read

i love this part 1 art style

[hidden smelt]

one of the characters is named Kouichi

[soft lichen]

Jorge joestar should be burned

[light lion]

Yes

[soft lichen]

What the fuck did i read

[rich hearth]

36 Kars on Mars gang rise up

[soft lichen]

I can't wait until December so i can finally read the colored manga

Idk why they're devoting their time to b&w vento when jojolion is current

[fading cove]

who reads black and white jojo if they have color scans

[soft lichen]

Lots of ppl actually

Some prefer b&w

Which is odd

[ancient depot]

its not really odd

the black and white art is really amazing sometimes

[soft lichen]

Over colored tho

[ancient depot]

the colored manga does dumb things sometimes

like making the sky bright out when dio is literally a vampire and cant survive in the sun

or making the room really bright and lit when king crimson donuts bruno even tho its supposed to be dark and dank

[soft lichen]

But it also does amazing things like this

[ancient depot]

look at how good this looks

[soft lichen]

I believe there are pros and cons

But I've found more pros in colored

Esp sbr and jojo

[ancient depot]

pre part 7 jojo is 100x better in colored

[fading cove]

^

[kind owl]

@fading cove, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !

[ancient depot]

but parts 7 and 8 arent significantly better colored

[fading cove]

pre part 7 they have different faces

[ancient depot]

and the first like 5 volumes of part 7 colored look like shit

[soft lichen]

[hidden smelt]

I think part 6 worked the best in colored

[soft lichen]

Hold up now

Go go. Zeppeli was beautiful

[fading cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-9IP_zn6zs

xd

[ancient depot]

it has this awful airbrush aesthetic that looks like dogshit for early part 7 colored

[fading cove]

they are all the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[soft lichen]

Wdym josuke and yasuho having the exaxt face is cute

[ancient depot]

yuck gross

[hidden smelt]

its a big problem for artists

[fading cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-9IP_zn6zs

this is real

accpect

[analog ether]

Post sameface SBR cover

[ancient depot]

tbh a lot of the jojolion cast has different enough features but goddamn yasuho and gappy have the same face sometimes...

[soft lichen]

They legit have the same nose lmaaaao

[hidden smelt]

i didnt notice it in part 7 but I notice it in part 8

[ancient depot]

dont look at new artwork for older characters

[fading cove]

^

cursed

remember to tape paper over your english jojo manga

[ancient depot]

araki got obsessed with this beautiful eyes 1000 yard stare aesthetic and gave it to every single character nowadays

its a problem

[fading cove]

guys

[soft lichen]

Legit just josuke with a hat

[fading cove]

part 8 Jonathan

[soft lichen]

[ancient depot]

but when in doubt just remember
at least its not as bad as Fate sameface

[hidden smelt]

i hope he fixes it

[soft lichen]

LOL

[fading cove]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6734/cf2c883b3087a99ca0f5201600187dc9231e6563v2_hq.jpg

[soft lichen]

I guess i never noticed it

[analog ether]

Sameface isn't really a thing in modern jojolion artwork at least

[fading cove]

you can see tusk act 4 and ballbreakers!!!!!!!

[ancient depot]

paper moon king arc was araki's way of lampshading it i think

[soft lichen]

Well jobin doesnt have sameface

Rite

[hidden smelt]

he does

[soft lichen]

And joshu is purposefully made ugly so

[fading cove]

joshu is peak human

[analog ether]

idk he looks kinda cute in newer chapters

[fading cove]

you have a small brain so he seems ugly

[soft lichen]

Ok

[fading cove]

he is peak human

his stats are maxed

[soft lichen]

He's hideous

[fading cove]

he is not

[analog ether]

Yeah early BUT later

[soft lichen]

He is

[hidden smelt]

all the chins look to similar

[soft lichen]

Joshu is perhaps the ugliest jobro

[analog ether]

Later Joshu

[light lion]

Joshu got a nice body tho

[hidden smelt]

Hourglass figure

[light lion]

Right bruh

[hidden smelt]

he got those hips too

[soft lichen]

That haircut will forever make him a strong 5

[hidden smelt]

• 5

[analog ether]

In fairness, his competitions is a bunch of sex gods tbf

he never had a real chance

[soft lichen]

True

Josuke is beautiful

Like how does one compete

[hidden smelt]

i dont think same face syndrome is severe or really noticed because of how unique everything else is with the characters story and setting

[ancient depot]

i noticed it really easily

[hidden smelt]

it only bothered me in early JJL

[ancient depot]

yea it didnt bother me so much in late sbr which is technically when it first started appearing

but early jjl with gappy and yasuho having the same face and expression at all times hurt

[hidden smelt]

yeah

[soft lichen]

Cover yasuho looks vastly different then non cover yasuho

[minor ore]

Those eyes are so far apart god damn

[soft lichen]

Yeah

[hidden smelt]

I think when he made ugly characters or characters that looked weird he suffered less from same face because he was making different types of faces all the time

[minor ore]

Like Pesci or polpo

[hidden smelt]

yeah

or shigechi

[soft lichen]

Polpo was beautiful

[minor ore]

Thicc god

[hidden smelt]

he had to eat a banana

😔

[soft lichen]

Remember when joshu tried to rape yasuho

Good times

[hidden smelt]

wasnt it a "misunderstanding"

[minor ore]

Paper Moon King had her actin wack

But then later he just straight up tries to grope his mom's tits

And starts licking his sisters ear

Like tf

[hidden smelt]

the Mom one weirded me out

[sturdy fossil]

stag beetle battle

[lucid fiber]

beetle tendency

[hoary sun]

For some reason when i read the ear licking part i thought it seemed like joshu really didn’t do that on purpose

This was when i was under the assumption that paper moon king was evolving to copy stands or control them

[quartz island]

im up to part 3 and i clicked on here by accident and i have no idea what u guys are talking about

nice

[hazy crystal]

basically; jojo, roundabout edition

[light lion]

Bruh

What would happen

If

Josuke met Dio

How would he react

[long wasp]

"who are you"

[light lion]

Ok but

He would be scared

Cause think about it

[minor ore]

nah

[light lion]

Any form of dio

Cause every other jojo

Knows what a dio is

But josuke is clueless

[minor ore]

yeah

so he'd just beat the shit out of dio

and off him for good

[light lion]

Like ik he would obviously be confused

But

[minor ore]

so that we never have to deal with dio being in jojo ever again

[light lion]

I wanna see that play out

In my mind

Im telling you diegos son will be the main villain of jojolion

[minor ore]

i swear to god if i see one more dio in jojo

i'm going to lose it

[light lion]

Although wait

Call me out if im wrong but

[old marlin]

"Diego's son"

[light lion]

Dio has had an influential role in every part right

[old marlin]

Not JJL but yeah

[light lion]

Cause he made the stand arrow in part 4 didnt he

[minor ore]

it turns out josefumi is just diego's grandson in disguise

gappy is half dio

[old marlin]

He didnt make it

What

[light lion]

Oh

My b

Ik dio did something important in part 4

[old marlin]

Kira had the mark iirc

[minor ore]

diego's granddaughter slept with joseph joestar

[light lion]

The mark?

Oh im tripping

[old marlin]

The Joestar Star Birthmark

[light lion]

I thoufht you meant part 4 kira

I was like wtg

*wtf

I remember when people speculated the bite marks around josukes star to be dio

But I think that got disproven

[old marlin]

Oh it was Josefumi who had the birthmark

[minor ore]

were the bite marks ever explained

[light lion]

I think so?

[old marlin]

Nope

[light lion]

O

[old marlin]

Not yet atleast

[light lion]

So it could have been AU Dio !

Jk

Like it would feel so weird for jojo to have dio not be apart of every part

He has to be in there somewhere

[old marlin]

I'm liking it the way it is now

[light lion]

Idk maybe its my dio bias

I think hes a really cool villain

[old marlin]

Iirc Young Dio had a complex about being born to be above everyone else right?

[minor ore]

wait kira doesn't have the birthmark?

[kind owl]

@warm leaf, Your Stand Power is now level 12 !

[light lion]

Young Dio was just treated like shit I think

[old marlin]

its Josefumi and Kira

Yeah

[minor ore]

oh okay

i thought someone said kira didn't have it

[light lion]

So he grew up to be a shit bag like darip

[old marlin]

Yeah I thought Josefumi didnt have it

[light lion]

If you think about it jojolion as a whole is kind of the red herring of jojo

[old marlin]

Back to the Young Dio thing tho if he DID have something similar to Jobin's Superiority Complex then that's as close as we get to DIO in JJL

[light lion]

Jobin and Dio are so like

Different though

Like no character in jojolion really acts like dio

[old marlin]

Not directly yeah

[light lion]

Diego for sure

But dio

Its a stretch

[old marlin]

Same person lo

[light lion]

Yeah but diego isnt like dio all that much character wise

I mean he kinda is

But he kinda is

*isnt

[old marlin]

Dio has 2 very distinct sides and his calculated side is very much Diego

[light lion]

Well

Not really

Both diego and dio had a really awful dad

Like shit tier father

???

Diegos dad tried to throw him into a river

[minor ore]

diego's father tried to kill him

[light lion]

So he can drown to death

Bc he didnt want to have a son

He actually did end up throwing diego into the river,

But diegos mom came in clutch

Saved him, and then she left diegos dad

I think diegos dad also died

[minor ore]

but yeah diego and dio are very similar characters

just in different circumstances

[light lion]

Diego is more of a dick tho

Dio is like

A crazy son of a bitch

[minor ore]

dio was also a dick

[light lion]

Diegos just a dick

[old marlin]

Not really

You're kinda basing this off of Part 3 ending DIO

[light lion]

Like diego isnt crazy in the sense that dio is crazy

[old marlin]

His character is a lot more than just those moments

[minor ore]

dio was crazy because of the vampire mask

[light lion]

Yeah

[minor ore]

before that he was sadistic but much more calculated

[light lion]

Im talking dio after the mask

Not before it

After the mask thats where the dio and diego parallels stop

[minor ore]

he cools down a bit after part 3 though

although when he starts losing he goes apeshit again

[light lion]

Wait

[minor ore]

part 1*

[light lion]

When does dio lose in parts 4 - 6

O

[minor ore]

mb

[light lion]

Its ok

[old marlin]

Part 6 DIO is what I consider his true character

[light lion]

Green baby dio

[old marlin]

You know what I mean

[minor ore]

but yeah i get what you're saying

diego isn't as crazy as dio

[light lion]

Yes

Cause diego is just a dick

Dio is also a dick, but hes more than just a dick

[minor ore]

diego never has those psychotic outburts like dio does

[light lion]

Yeah

[minor ore]

when dio is over here ranting about rat shit in a bathroom

[light lion]

Hes just an asshat thats why I like him better than dio

[minor ore]

yeah because he's more believable

[light lion]

Hes cocky, arrogant

Yes

[minor ore]

when he doesn't go into villain mode

[light lion]

Seems like a real person

Like if I met diego irl

Its realistic

But dio

Naww

Its just batshit crazy

Lol

[minor ore]

if i meet a dude who sticks his fucking finger into his brain yelling about how he's on the greatest high im calling the cops

[old marlin]

That isnt all Dio's character thooo

[minor ore]

yeah i know

[old marlin]

Why do u keep saying that

[minor ore]

the other side of dio is much more diego like

but that still pulls him a part from diego

[light lion]

Bc thats what we mainly see from dio

[old marlin]

That other side is what took center stage most of the time

[light lion]

Is that aprt of him

[old marlin]

No it isnt?

[minor ore]

it's still a part of his character though

[light lion]

Atleast iirc im p sure thats what I remember seeing the most from dio are those psychotic outbursts in parts 1 and 3

[old marlin]

Right up until his final encounters with Joestars his entire personality is just a more refined and proactive Diego

[light lion]

Also i dont remember much of dio brando before the mask

Bc theres so little of him

But he did act very diego like but just more immature

[minor ore]

again they have similarities

[light lion]

Since diego is a grown man

[minor ore]

but they aren't the same character

[light lion]

Diego also has a cooler stand

[minor ore]

yeah that was good

[light lion]

I think my favorite dio is part 6 dio

[old marlin]

Same no question

[light lion]

His character is alot more interesting when he put on a mentor role

Like

[old marlin]

Worst Dio is AU Diego.....

[light lion]

10x more interesting

[minor ore]

i don't even remember AU Diego's character

He just came in tried to kill johnny then died

[light lion]

AU Diego is just diego with The World

I dont think he changes much

Personality wise

[minor ore]

yeah and part 6 diego was really cool

[light lion]

O

[old marlin]

Basically just DIO going batshit insane but even more underwhelming

[minor ore]

I think that's why a lot of people would want to see dio with giorno

[light lion]

Part 6 diego?

[minor ore]

Like having Dio being a mentor and having someone he somehwat cares for

Dio*

damn i am off the ball today

[light lion]

Oh

Yes

Cause he did use pucci

But you cant lie

He atleast seemed like he cared for him

[minor ore]

well that's the great part about it

[light lion]

Ye

[minor ore]

you really can't tell if he does or not

he might care for him

or he might just be manipulating him

[light lion]

I think its both

[minor ore]

instead of just being like "let's fuck -flesh bud-" in part 3

[light lion]

Also idk if you guys can relate to this or not but I hate it when people just undermine puccis character by delegating him to being "Just another dio follower"

Like bro

Puccis character is so much more

[minor ore]

yeah he's not like vanilla ice

[light lion]

Than just being another dio follower

Right

[minor ore]

vanilla ice is the pure dio stan fanboy

[old marlin]

Hes Vanilla Ice with actual Goals

Hes way more like

N'Doul vibe wise

[minor ore]

yeah

calm and calculated

not very brash like vanilla ice

[light lion]

He did get a little brash with emporio

He was struggling

[minor ore]

yeah but vanilla ice like

[light lion]

But thats it

[minor ore]

went ape shit over just having to attack something that resembled dio

[light lion]

Lmao

[minor ore]

dude started kicking iggy and had this orgasm face like tf you good man

pucci is way better than the other dio followers

[old marlin]

^

[minor ore]

pucci and hol horse best dio followers

[light lion]

Hol horse is a part 7 character in part 3

[old marlin]

Ehhhhh I get what you mean

But like

Maybe if he was written more in depth

[light lion]

Character wise

Hes like semi part 7

But design wise yeah

Hes part 7

His character wouldve def needed some more depth to him since alot of characters in part 7 have insane amounts of depth to them

[minor ore]

It was cool to have a dio follower in part 3 who didn't like dio

[light lion]

Yeah thats why hol horse is like the only interesting antagonist in part 3

Besides dio himself

[minor ore]

you really going to leave out the two best part 3 antagonists?

the oingo boingo brothers

come on bro

[light lion]

Nnnnnnnnnnnn

I did not like them

Lmao

I didnt think they were bad

But

Definitely couldve been better

[old marlin]

What about N'Doul

[minor ore]

n'doul was cool

oh shit

[light lion]

I mean he was cool

[minor ore]

did the rohan ovas come out today?

[light lion]

But as a character I didnt think he was interesting

Who?

[minor ore]

the thus spoke rohan kishibe ovas

[old marlin]

I dont know

[light lion]

Yeah idk either

[minor ore]

im looking at the jojo twitter but it's all in japanese idk what it's saying

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[light lion]

Lol

[minor ore]

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[light lion]

It got released

[minor ore]

oh thank you

[left iris]

ryu kishibe does not move

[minor ore]

poor paralyzed ryu kishibe

man the run was so good i'm excited to see it animated

[light lion]

Key visual ban

[soft lichen]

Joshu looks like a frozen pickle

And i hope he dies

[old marlin]

This

[void viper]

Rudeness will not be tolerated 😡😡😜😜😜😳😳😳

[left flare]

😳

[bitter tundra]

Why does Doctor Wu just have

"Doctor"

Written all over his uniform

[void viper]

so you know he's a doctor

[bitter tundra]

But like

One tag is enough

And he's got at leadt 5 attached to his shirt

[bitter tundra]

KAKYOIN HATH BEEN REINCARNATED

[valid valve]

Tbh who's joshu's barber

[bitter tundra]

Holy shit....

That ending to chapter 79....

https://youtu.be/gY9tfRPoGfw

[soft lichen]

Non colored yasuho looks terrible

[bitter tundra]

Same

[minor ore]

eh

i think its fine

[bitter tundra]

And

I THOUGHT that Doctor Tomoki's name was Wu Tomoki

BUT IT'S FUCKING UU TOMOKI

WH

WHY IS HIS FIRST NAME JUST TWO OF THE SAME LETTERS

[grizzled pilot]

translation quirk

its probably meant to be Wu

[analog ether]

lmao that's not yasuho fluff

[bitter tundra]

And I have a theory on who the head doctor is

It's....

Yasuho's dog

[viral plume]

[old marlin]

User: Wu Tomoki
Stand: Dr. Wu

Alias: Doctor Wu

[supple totem]

vagina seeking pebbles

[old marlin]

Blows my mind to think we still have an entire week left until the new chap

[minor ore]

unfortunately

really wish araki was as fast as rohan

[old marlin]

Do you have any idea what could happen next tho

Cuz I certainly dont lol

I wanna believe we'll cut right to Jousuke in the hospital the next day ready to confront Akefu

But I feel something with Yasuho and Rai is about to unfold

Either that or just Yasuho herself again

[minor ore]

my guess is yasuho going to mitsuba and being attacked by her

[old marlin]

What makes you think that?

[minor ore]

well she was in the photo with the head doctor

just a wild guess she might have worked with rock humans just like jobin

[old marlin]

I dont remember her being too involved with the Fruit Parlor buisness but if she is then I could see that being the case

[minor ore]

i do wonder how long til the rokakaka harvest is ready

3 chapters id assume

[old marlin]

We're only 2 days away arent we?

[minor ore]

ye

my guess it the harvest will be ready at the end of the 2nd or 3rd chapter as a cliffhanger

[fading cove]

omfg i makes so much sense for kakyoin to be reincarnated as a milf

i hope our blessing yasuho doesnt get hurt 🙏

[supple totem]

oh boy.

then i don't think you are going to like the next chapter

[fading cove]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i really want a untitled duck meme for kaato

duck running with her cards

[old marlin]

Man comes from the future to let us know Yasuho fuckin dies

[fading cove]

xd

[supple totem]

i don't know if she is going to get hurt or not

[fading cove]

parsley park is so cool

need as much screen time as it can get

[old marlin]

Thanks for the edit idea

[supple totem]

but the rain wich the headocter uses to attack with seems to be headed towards yasuo

she can always take cover tho

and use tooru as an umbrella

[fading cove]

yeah theyre by houses

and isnt it 15 minutes before?

[minor ore]

my guess on tho is gonna die in jojolion is norisuke and jobin

[fading cove]

norisuke will die

but i think kaato is the main villain

and at the last moment jobin and his family will side with josuke

[minor ore]

she just kinda disappeared after her introduction

last we saw of her was in a flashback

[fading cove]

but she's the leader of the mob

i hope araki isnt doing the diavolo is within the shadows thing

[minor ore]

we dont know anything about caato so i dont think its safe to just say shes a boss

[fading cove]

because ive started to pick up are a lot of super subtle part 5 nods and call back

[supple totem]

mayby the headocter is the father to caato.

wich would explain why he tries to kill them

[fading cove]

i like the crazy theories that have some ground

not the stupid xforts theories

i really like the kaato is a rock human theory

but it has no ground

but you know what theory does

[old marlin]

Jobin is Main Antagonist

[fading cove]

the king crimson theory

has jobin killed anyone?

[supple totem]

king crimson theory yuck yuck

[old marlin]

Yes

2 people

[fading cove]

who

not the middle school kid

[old marlin]

3 in fact

Ojirou, His GF, and he rendered the kid Unconscious

[supple totem]

ojiro and the kid and who is the third??

oh

[minor ore]

jobin only killed do protect tsurugi and the familly though

[old marlin]

Still murder

[fading cove]

yeah

[old marlin]

But that's not what makes him an antagonist

[fading cove]

valentine did not give a fuck who he killed and why

[minor ore]

wouldnt the same go for gappy then?

[old marlin]

By that logic Jousuke is an antagonist

[fading cove]

non of them did and for less

[supple totem]

if we are talking about murder then lets not forget that josuke smashed tamo damokis face to pieces.

[old marlin]

Why even bring up murder

It's a moot point

[minor ore]

i cant agree or see why jobin would be the antagonist

[old marlin]

That's not why Jobin's Jousuke's biggest challenge

[supple totem]

he want rokakaka. Josuke want rokakaka. They both need it URGENT. They are going to have to fight for it

[minor ore]

he had no controll over the rokakaka

underdog to damo

[supple totem]

I wouldt say jobins a villian

[kind owl]

@supple totem, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

[supple totem]

but rather an enemy

thats not evil

[old marlin]

No one said he was a villain

[minor ore]

thats just rivalry

[supple totem]

yes

that's my point

[old marlin]

Which isnt some friendly rivalry

[minor ore]

neither was diego and johnny but diego didnt end up as the main villian

[fading cove]

i would have hated that

dont do the same thing

[supple totem]

there kinda is no main villian in jojolion

[fading cove]

diego had about 1/5 as the time dio did and he's on par or a better character

you cant do a story without a main villain

[minor ore]

you can

[old marlin]

All I'm saying is Jobin's the main character who's the biggest threat to Jousuke as of now in the story, his goals are directly opposed to Jousuke's and that makes him Jousuke's biggest adversary

[fading cove]

then there is no climax

[supple totem]

in that case the main villian is the headocter

imo

[minor ore]

im sticking to the prediction of there not being a main villian

[fading cove]

no

lose ends arent tied up

[supple totem]

rip opinions

[minor ore]

hey its my thoughts, no one can say its right or wrong yet

[old marlin]

No one here thinks there's a main villain

[supple totem]

execpt me

[fading cove]

im sticking with my theory for part 8 being a fusion of part 4 and 5

josuke acts just like giorno

[minor ore]

but better imo

[fading cove]

yeah

[supple totem]

7 page ora?

if it's a fusion of part 5

[minor ore]

one theory i cant see happening at all is soft & wet turning into king crimson

[fading cove]

hopefully kaato would be the diavolo in the story then

then hopefully she should get more characterization

why would she leave jail if she didnt have to

[supple totem]

jail is a scary place to be in

[minor ore]

her sentence was up

[supple totem]

i guess

[minor ore]

only natural to leave after that

[fading cove]

didnt she get out early?

because she behaved?

i remember a line about that

[lucid fiber]

You ever think about how Araki could come up with some weird new shit last minute that changes everything entirely

Like Ballbreaker or Requiems

[fading cove]

nah

requiem was planned and so was ballbreakers

[lucid fiber]

So no matter what we think we know we can't actually predict anything

[minor ore]

no she went through the whole 15 years

[fading cove]

not from the beginning

[supple totem]

soft and wet with ripple act 4 reqiuem over heaven ultimate life form

[lucid fiber]

Yeah but they happened last minute is my point

[fading cove]

but its chapter 91 im sure he knews how he will end this story

[lucid fiber]

Somewhat out of nowhere

[minor ore]

requiem was a thing at the green day arc though

[fading cove]

it doesnt mean it wasnt plained

look at the part 5 stands

how many have clear eyes

not bug eyes

[minor ore]

also ball breaker didnt just appear at the end

[fading cove]

real eyes

[minor ore]

it actually appeared in a earlier chapter

i dont remember which but i definitely saw it

[lucid fiber]

...you're thoroughly misunderstanding me I'm not saying they're things he didn't have planned before they happened I'm saying they're things that were surprises to us

[supple totem]

i can see josuke getting scizopphrenia and then switching between Kira and Josephumi

[minor ore]

either true mans world or soundman

[old marlin]

Ball Breaker was insane

[fading cove]

it was planned

you have to plan these stories

[lucid fiber]

...yes

I never said

Jesus

[old marlin]

Jousuke with Schizophrenia lmao

[supple totem]

that would be awesome

and he switches between kira and josephumi

[lucid fiber]

I don't know how this is hard to grasp I'm saying we don't know that he won't pull something seemingly out of nowhere and that's interesting to me

[fading cove]

he does that kind vs cruel switch

[old marlin]

I agree, things can easily come out of left field

[supple totem]

damo tamoki the mashed patato

[lucid fiber]

Like there were some hints toward Requiems but Chariot Requiem was when things went off the rails

[old marlin]

The Hospital is one of those things that came out of left field really, even though we'd seen it early in the part I'm pretty sure no one expected it to be important

[minor ore]

josuke is mostly josefumi with the way he acts

[lucid fiber]

And it's just interesting to think about how that could easily happen here

In a different way ofc

[minor ore]

which is why i believe his original identity is josefumi

[old marlin]

Josefumi is the base after all

[supple totem]

Yes. It is even stated

[minor ore]

he says he is josefumi at the start, even damo referring to him as such

but later its 50 50

[lucid fiber]

For all we know last minute the rokakaka gives Soft & Wet some new power because it was created from an exchange previously or whatever

[minor ore]

its a new rokakaka

who knows what it could do

[near path]

Why doesn't josuke just use a regular rokakaka on Holly?

[supple totem]

the manga did say soft and wet gained a new power.

but what is it tho????

[minor ore]

its the plunder

[old marlin]

Stealing more than just physical objects

[minor ore]

soft & wet originally could fuse things?
he fused a rokakaka branch onto a tree

or graphed

[supple totem]

yea. Soft and wet can still do that

[minor ore]

whatever

[supple totem]

he did it with woo tomoki

[old marlin]

Wu

[supple totem]

he fused him with cement

wuu woo Wooh uwu owo

[lucid fiber]

ARE YOU WITH ME DOCTOR WU

[old marlin]

ARE YOU REALLY JUST A SHAAADOW OF THE MAN THAT I ONCE KNEW

[minor ore]

i dont think so

[lucid fiber]

ARE YOU CRAZY ARE YOU HIGH

[minor ore]

wu was a rock human

[lucid fiber]

OR JUST AN ORDINARY GUY

[minor ore]

he turns to stone when he is defeated

[near path]

Why does Josuke specifically need the new rokakaka and can't use a regular one?

[minor ore]

who esle does that

[supple totem]

he needs to sacrifice himself for holly

[old marlin]

I dont think he was fused, I'm pretty sure it was a matter of being encased in cement

[minor ore]

why would a normal human be in the main operation of the rokakaka though

and know about the 200 million yen price and the effects

every other rock human turned to stone when they died

and im very sure his stand doesent turn him into cement perticles

[supple totem]

prob not

mayby flint or some mineral

it was josuke that fused him with cement

[minor ore]

but he can only plunder or steal things though

never fused anything

[supple totem]

He can fuse branches

[minor ore]

that was old soft& wet

remember it merged with killer queen

[supple totem]

and it gained plunder

i still think it can fuse stuff

[minor ore]

or was replaced with plunder

[supple totem]

mayby.

i'm just saying i think he fused him with cement

[minor ore]

like so with silver chariot requiem, it lost all of its old abilities and they were replaced with new ones

[supple totem]

it could do the unthinkable

W A L K

[minor ore]

or another example being pucci's stands

[supple totem]

ya

but soft and wet did not change appearance nor it's ability

[minor ore]

why didnt josuke fuse anything then

like ever

[supple totem]

he did fuse wu and cement

[old marlin]

He did not fuse Wu with Cement

[supple totem]

he did

[minor ore]

what cement though

it was in a elevator

[supple totem]

cement cement

[old marlin]

Hes encasing Wu's Head fragments in the cement that was in the bubbles

Not fusing the cement into his head fragments

[supple totem]

Are you talking about the white stuff

i thought it was like soap from the bubbles

[old marlin]

I'm talking about the exact dialogue being given

[supple totem]

he does not mention him encasing him with cement

fuck what does it even matter?

[old marlin]

It matters because Jousuke hasnt fused anything with his bubbles yet like you say he has

This doesn't mean hes lost that aspect of his bubbles but it hasnt been demonstrated yet

[supple totem]

THe dialog doesnt mention anything with him encapsuling or fusing

I DONT know

you dont know

wu is gray and cement is gray making me to believe that wu was fused with the cement

[analog ether]

If I douse you in blue paint, and you look completely blue, does that mean you've fused with blue paint?

[supple totem]

if blender me into tiny fractions and then poor blue paint into the mix

then yes

that would make me blue

[minor ore]

wait for it to be colored then, maybe then youll see

[supple totem]

yes. We'll see

[analog ether]

Yeah but Wu is already fragmented, Josuke didn't break him down

[supple totem]

excactly

and when the bubbles with wus fractions and cement come toghether

graycementwu

like if you were to mix water with dye

[analog ether]

I don't get this take.
It's like saying the Terminator fused with magma at the end of the movie because he got covered in it

[supple totem]

not at all

[old marlin]

Option 1: I put cement over him and hes stuck forever
Option 2: I took every segment of his fragmented rock body and fused it with the un-harded cement to make sure hes stuck forever

[supple totem]

it wasnt just the surface of wuus skin that got covored in cement

It was almost intire head

[analog ether]

Because he's broken up, that's his power.

[supple totem]

YES

Wich would make him gray!

[analog ether]

H U H

[supple totem]

whatever

i'm out

[analog ether]

coward