#jojolion

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minor ore
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Dio influence in parts 4 and 5 was minimal

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and Diego is definitively dead so i doubt there's gonna be anything from him

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though it would be neat if we got another connection to SBR

winter musk
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how is it minimal when the main character of part 5 is his son

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and also stand arrow stuff is pretty influential from dio

minor ore
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tbf dio gets maybe 30 seconds of lip service in all of part 5

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anyways it would be pretty stupid if dio had any impact on jjl

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not that i didnt love diego, but putting him in again would be hacky

real ferry
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DIO tried to fuss over Daiya so many times he became a vegetable sold by the Norisuke fruit parlor

worthy coyote
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anyone else super unsatisfied with how johnny was thrown away in jojolion? Anyone think maybe he will come back or maybe SBR will have more influence?

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like a 6 page flashback to kill johnny bruh.

tawny mist
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he's not coming back

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SBR takes place in like 1890

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and JJL is set in the 2000's

queen fox
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it's important to the lore of the rock disease tho

tawny mist
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yeah but that happened way before the current stuff

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he'd be dead from old age anyways

queen fox
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ya

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also Johnny has no need to help, what's he going to do?

final hawk
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i'd like to hear more about johnny or kira's ancestors when josuke gets to meet holly in the future

winter musk
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i'd like to know about joseph man

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we skipped over like so many things just to get to rokakaka funny

fading cove
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NO MORE DIO

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dio had a send off

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diego is perfect dio

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he's the peak of everything dio could be

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and araki doesnt write the same story

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au parts are rewrites

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for what i think are the parts he think he can improve

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like diego having a more noble motive than dio and it improves his character that much

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i think it has to be stone ocean that will be part 9

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i think of female anasui

viscid mountain
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If there's part 9 I think we could get jojo brothers or sisters just to give some use to gappy's... Ehm.... "unique characteristic" and it'll be the first time we got double jojo on a part

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I mean double new jojos

fading cove
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i would fucking love giorno and joylne

minor ore
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conjoined twin jojo?

fading cove
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the fact that both of them would get along and never meet either

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sm

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h

minor ore
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thats pretty bizarre

pastel adder
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The only thing I can really assume about a potential part 9 is that it would be another italian setting

fading cove
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whats wrong with golden wind

pastel adder
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wym

fading cove
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i dont think he made any things he want to change

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like

minor ore
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we should get a female JoJo again in part 9

pastel adder
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didn't say he wants to change anything

fading cove
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diamond is unbreakable had a lot of minor problems

viscid mountain
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Only fugo araki always wanted fugo to be more but at the time he couldn't

pastel adder
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araki just really fucking likes italy

fading cove
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i think that why it got a rewrite

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or maybe he see's room for a better story

winter musk
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i feel like we getting part 9 at this point

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1-3 and 4-6 were trilogies

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7, 8 and 9 would make sense

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if we get part 9 i hap

sly turret
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Hi I'm new here what's the general consensus here on main villain?

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Or all you all just as confused as me

left iris
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from what ive seen its either "its jobin" or "hopefully theres none"

sly turret
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gotcha

left iris
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im still calling holly

sly turret
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I can see that

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We haven't even seen her stand yet which is suspicious

hazy cloak
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what if the fruit is the main villain

fading cove
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smh

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soft and wet v jobin

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soft and wet capures speed kings heat

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josuke beats jobin to death

sly turret
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If Jobin is the main antagonist then he better get some kind of stand design change or upgrade

fading cove
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like his stand isnt op

sly turret
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I just mean with how it looks

fading cove
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not even how it acts

sly turret
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I like the king crimson screaming face on Speed King, but the rest of the design is super generic

fading cove
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king crimson was too op

sly turret
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ye

fading cove
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araki thought he made killer queen too op

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this is why you read the manga kids

meager finch
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best part

viscid mountain
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Man I really miss kyo Nijimura her fight was cool but since then she only has been important to show how far the effect of vitamin c can go

minor ore
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araki really pulled a fugo again

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inb4 in post-part interviews he will talk about not being able to make kyo and karera reappear KakyoinSad

winter musk
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i mean kyo wasnt really a main character to begin with

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doesnt seem like a fugo in my eyes

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although i do like the character

viscid mountain
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I hope once the race for the rokakaka is over we can get more scenes of the members of the higashikata house and if the theory of the head doctor and karera is true it migh be pretty cool

winter musk
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whats the theory about hD and karera

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please explain

minor ore
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HD's stand is about image stealing, he put his own identity into Karera making her lure Josuke & co out the hospital

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Kinda stupid since we know that Akefu's stand is incapable of doing that but you know, it's just a theory

winter musk
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before the stand abilty was sort of revealed?

viscid mountain
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The theory is also about it being actually a double stand attack one is the head doctor and the one causing damage is tooru's stand

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But theories are theories and with araki you can't never be sure about anything

minor ore
viscid mountain
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I've never heard a sentence that defined most of jojo

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Like that one

winter musk
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tooru lmao

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someone in yt comments on a video mentioned 4 different characters

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like

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Tooru's stand has ace or club i cant remember

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Caato has queen in the name

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Jobin has king

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obviously

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and i think it was the head doctor with ace or club whichever depends on tooru

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also ym english sucks so i might be saying it as fact when its not a fact

kind owlBOT
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@winter musk, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

minor ore
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Hm, Caato is "Card" - Tsurugi is "Club" - Haato is "Heart" - Daiya is "Diamond"

winter musk
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the one i saw was differnt

minor ore
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Idk about Jobin/Norisuke/Tooru's thing

winter musk
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it was based of the stand names

minor ore
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But we don't know either Caato's or Tooru's stand

viscid mountain
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Well at least not the names

kind owlBOT
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@viscid mountain, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

viscid mountain
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And I still not sure what's walking heart hability

hazy crystal
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put into karera? it could also be kyo or something

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kyo wasn't present in the picture and they go to visit their mother at the hospital, don't they

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walking heart just extends the heel of the user's foot and shoes

minor ore
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I don't think Kyo said if she visited Holly, but i don't think she does since she didn't say anything to Gappy about the state of her room

hoary sun
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Kyo and holly need to have a conversation.

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S c r e e n t i m e

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There have been two whole arcs in the hospital and holy didn’t show up ONCE

karmic cloak
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i just catch up with jojolion and all i have to say is : IS HE REALLY 89 YEARS OLD ?????

winter musk
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he is speedwagon betting my life savings

fading cove
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i wish we had mista here

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YEE HAW

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just shot him xd

hoary sun
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It’s fun that araki is doing a long form romance with yashuo and josuke. I really really like the tension between them

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If we’re lucky they might even kiss

sly turret
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What if we kissed... in the tree lamborghini 😳

kind owlBOT
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@sly turret, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

hoary sun
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Has there been a kiss in jojo’s other than erina and dio and maybe Johnathan?

sly turret
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I remember Jotaro kissed someone

winter musk
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holly kissed jotaro

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right

sly turret
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I meant this

winter musk
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yes but im thinking of another kiss

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lmao

sly turret
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Jotaro is a chad

fading cove
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but au jotaro

sly turret
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you mean Kira?

fading cove
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as i described the last chapter as jotaro + josuke + kira and johnny apple seed go hunt down a old man and get hit by a car

real ferry
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Gyro must've canoodled the lady with the ring mark

lime apex
fallen trellis
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Caesar kissed that random girl

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Yukako and Koichi as well

minor ore
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it’s bc the jojos don’t got time to be kissing they got antagonists to defeat

late beacon
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I love soft and wet

formal blaze
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Yep, I called it

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Head Doctor is going to be the main antagonist of Part 8

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His stand is giving me major Bites The Dust vibes

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And with the way Part 8 parallels Part 4, I bet that's at least partly intentional

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A stand that automatically activates and attacks once you try to discover the user's identity or come after them at all

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Plus how you gonna look at a stand that can straight up make it rain bullets down on you just by thinking of the user

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And tell me that's not a main antagonist stand?

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"Hey what if we went to that Satoru guy's lecture"
(Random ass speeding car comes out of nowhere and literally rams right into you)

daring lily
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This stand has some comedy potential

minor ore
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HD is not the main antagonist

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Idk what you all smoking

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There's 0 character about him

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He has nothing our group wants

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They are chasing nothing

formal blaze
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@minor ore He knows everything about the Rokakakas and is after the Harvested fruits

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He's the head of the Rokakakas Organization which has been attacking Josuke & Co

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This seems really clear cut to me y'all just don't wanna admit it because u feel it's anticlimactic

minor ore
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It was never confirmed he's the leader was it? Only that he was working with Poor Tom, Tomoki and Guerilla

void viper
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he's called the head doctor

real ferry
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He must be great at it to have a diploma in it

minor ore
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Damo was only the leader of the smuggling division

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HD is the real deal, the boss of the whole organization

heavy grove
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I dont think you guys realize that jojolion doesnt need a main villain

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For part 8 potentially being the last part, I feel like we need something way more climatic

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Like all of the parties coming together and fighting, like a battle royal

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Jobins group, the rock humans, josukes group, and other characters coming back- like karera for example

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An avengers endgame of sorts

minor ore
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^

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Never watched an avengers movie so i dunno what that last part means

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Where was it confirmed that he is head of whole organization

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By rai in the hospital chapters

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They did research on him

minor ore
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Research when all of his info is faked

formal blaze
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Gotta admit that's actually a pretty tight comeback

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Point Gagi

minor ore
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The fake info is him being a doctor at the hospital

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Completely irrelevant to his status in the gang

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And Rai said he could possibly be leading Damo's gang

queen fox
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Normal people: why is the lambo in the tree?
Me, an intellectual: Araki planned this scene out from the moment the beetle fight happened just so he can have a Golden Lamborghini in a tree.

minor ore
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Can't wait for this whole main villain thing to die with this part, araki himself said he wanted to go with his idea he had for part 4 before Kira got involved and people are still waiting for a main villain. There won't be, there are multiple opposing teams fighting each other and that's that. Everyone is worthy of it's own "main villain" status: Jobin, Akefu and Damo all are heads of their own team (makorin/ojiro kind of) just like Josuke is the protagonist and has its own group. That's the beauty of Jojolion, everyone is morally grey and have its own reasoning for doing things, there's no need for a main villain and I even if it was Akefu after all, it wouldn't be anti climatic but disappointing, that's the easiest exit for Araki, just have the "leader of the rock men" be the main antagonist and that's it.

west zealot
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Beginning my journey into this part

formal blaze
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Also where the hell did Araki say Part 8 would be the last part??

kind sun
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Walking hear is the most cursed stand in all of jojo

loud fiber
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he didn't

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In a 2004 interview he said he planned up the whole alt universe up to part 9

formal blaze
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Holy shit

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Sometimes I forget that SBR-verse has been going on for over 15 years

loud fiber
formal blaze
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It started in 2004. That's so insane to think about. I was a kid when SBR started.

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I barely even knew how to read

west zealot
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So this main character guy is ballsy x2 eh?

formal blaze
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Araki really started taking his time with parts tbh

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Like, some way longass parts.

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He used to finish like 4 parts in 15 years

west zealot
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SBR had the most volumes of any part though

formal blaze
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Now it's been over 15 years and he still hasn't finished 2.

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Jojolion is no doubt gonna surpass SBR

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By Chapter 89 SBR was already heading towards a climax

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We still don't even know if we're near the endgame of JJL

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We're assuming Araki can wrap the whole story up in 11 chapters

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That's like at most 3 arcs.

west zealot
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o wow

analog ether
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Parts 1 - 6 were relaesed weekly
Parts 7 -8 are released monthly. They are much longer

formal blaze
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Yeah but after switching to Ultra Jump the issues are longer now

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I guess not 4 times as longer but, like

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Still.

analog ether
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Uh huh?

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That's my point

formal blaze
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No I don't mean they take longer

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I mean there are more pages

west zealot
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I'll look at it in hopes that so many years of hard work allowed Araki to finally get a schedule that wasn't as stressful

formal blaze
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Per issue

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Iirc it jumped from like

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20 pages to 30-ish?

analog ether
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Anywhere from 30 to 50

west zealot
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It seems to be 25 right now at the beginning

analog ether
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Usually 40

formal blaze
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Anyways, yeah, even if JJL wraps up, hypothetically, at the 100th chapter

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That's still 11 months from now lmao

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So we still have a year of Jojolion

west zealot
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inb4 Jojolion final chapter announcement presentation ends with Stone Ocean anime announcement

formal blaze
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I also don't think it will wrap up at the 100th chapter. I think at minimum we're looking at 110 chapters.

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11 issues to wrap the whole story up is gonna be way rushed. There's still 48 hours till the Rokakakas harvest and even if that's the final fight, there's still usually an epilogue arc.

west zealot
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Ok so this guy is supposedly Yoshikage Kira but we're just gonna call him Josuke

kind owlBOT
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@west zealot, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

west zealot
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k

minor ore
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Just read

queen fox
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The thing is, he looks like Josefumi (LLD girl)

minor ore
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I mean he's at the beginning sooo

west zealot
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Yeah I'm reading don't worry. Not complaining or anything, was just surprised how quickly we crossed both of those bridges lol

minor ore
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It'll be explained

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Takes some time but ye

queen fox
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@formal blaze each chapter is an hour long, meaning we have 48 chapters left, approx 4 more years /s

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/s

west zealot
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So they showed map of Morioh at the beginning which denoted Yoshikage Kiras mansion, but now they're in the apartment which has a little statue of a severed hand... does he have 2 places to live? Or is this another "keep reading" question?

queen fox
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Kira has a mansion?

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Send img please

west zealot
queen fox
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Can you show the full map?

west zealot
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Yeah sorry give me a minute with that

queen fox
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Also it can be a possible print issue where the editor put mansion instead of apartment and the colored team just took the literal translation of it. But I may be wrong

west zealot
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Yeah that was my first thought too

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Just cuts off the bottom where the other 4 points are listed

queen fox
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It think it’s a mistype

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@analog ether

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Read what’s above

analog ether
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The "Kira's mansion" thing?

sly turret
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Kira has an apartment, not a mansion

analog ether
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It's very likely just a misprint or something

queen fox
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👍

analog ether
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Did you ping me cus you just knew I'd know?

queen fox
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Ya, also because confirmation from someone else helps

analog ether
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Oh ok, heh

west zealot
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I've just been reading but I came back, great teamwork folks

queen fox
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Araki is really good at drawing maps wow

minor ore
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"location where the boy was discovered" meaning Josuke right? not weird baby

analog ether
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Meaning Josuke yes

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This was before he was given a proper name, and they still wanted to play with his identity

west zealot
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Yeah I can tell

analog ether
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Eventually they just call him Josuke, before a while he was just known as "the boy" or "the protagonist"

west zealot
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Random stand user falls off building and looks at Josuke:
"You're Yoshikage Kira?"

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Damn Norisuke has hair now

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ooooo so the real Yoshikage Kira looks also wears sailor uniforms

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This makes more sense if it's actually true

queen fox
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It’s weird but, when you catch up it’ll still be confusing

tidal ocean
west zealot
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Haha I can tell that Araki is really just trying to fuck with my head

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Gyro stay off the WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

tidal ocean
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Why

west zealot
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idk just felt like typing that out

tidal ocean
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ok

void viper
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ok

west zealot
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ok

tidal ocean
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ok

queen fox
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ok

tidal ocean
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lets stop now

rancid aurora
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ok

tidal ocean
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wha-

viscid mountain
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It's interesting how paisley Park is the less robotic looking stand in the part but it's hability is the one has to do with technology

west zealot
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Lmao Yoshikage Kira has no balls

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And he's dead I guess rip

queen fox
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The mysterious man in Gappy’s head is someone who wasn’t properly introduced yet

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Theory

heavy grove
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I hope hes important at least

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Maybe he'll give us some important information regarding the rokakaka

queen fox
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One of my biggest theories is that there are two Gappy’s

heavy grove
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How would there be?

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I don't think the rokakaka can make another of somebody

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So far, at least

brittle blade
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what if yoshikage kira is alive

sly turret
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What if Kira was the HD all along

brittle blade
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and wants to kill gappy because he took his testicles

sly turret
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I wouldn't put it past Araki

brittle blade
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where are my testicles josuke?

sly turret
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Josuke give me my testies

shut escarp
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Wait wait I jus started the first chapter of jojolion but he has 4 balls in his sack?!

sly turret
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yes

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it makes sense later

shut escarp
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Bizzare

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Wonder what kind of adventure this is going to be o.0

rose garden
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so im finally caught up with 8 and i have to say, why do some people think jobin isnt the villain?! Theres way too much shit that suggests he is

formal blaze
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Because Speed King's ability turned out to be underwhelming and he doesn't want to harm enough people to get the Rokakakas

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He's not high up enough on the ladder

winter musk
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we know so much about him as well

sly turret
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bc his stand doesn't yet have a time/space ability, and he doesn't have any motives for trying to kill Gappy

formal blaze
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Tsurugi has about the same potential to turn out to be a twist final boss

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As Jobin does

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He's starting to develop a Dark Side(tm)

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Evil Origami time

sly turret
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I still think he could be the main villain, but to me Jobin has always been the Rohan equivalent of SBR universe

rose garden
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jobins power is underwhelming?!

formal blaze
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Yeah, he just stores heat in people

winter musk
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he said he doesnt care what happens to gappy during the blue hawaii arc but hes not out to kill him

formal blaze
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That's it.

rose garden
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he killed that rock dude from miles away

formal blaze
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It's deadly but so are a lot of other stands

rose garden
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and the woman

winter musk
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yes but the problem is like azureden said

sly turret
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I wouldn't say its underwhelming, its basically a more messy killer queen

winter musk
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it doesnt have a space time ability

formal blaze
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Eeehhhhh

kind owlBOT
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@formal blaze, Your Stand Power is now level 27 !

rose garden
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yeah but part 8 also has no relations to dio either

winter musk
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it would break the trend and wouldnt really fit a main vilain

rose garden
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so its not a typical part

formal blaze
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Even Killer Queen had SHA. Speed King has no equivalent.

winter musk
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bruh so the reason valentine had d4c is because of diego?

sly turret
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what

winter musk
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why does dio matter

formal blaze
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I guess I can kinda see the similarity between storing enough heat to melt someone and immediately combusting them.

sly turret
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wait wait where did D4C come into this conversation

formal blaze
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But it doesn't work exactly the same way. Killer Queen was still deadlier.

rose garden
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no no what i mean is it has no dio in it at all

winter musk
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just because theres no dio apparently there wont be a space/time ability @sly turret

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for the main antag

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thats kinda what Sad just said but then again im only 10 so my brain smol

sly turret
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I think he just meant bc no dio its not a normal part, the main villain stand can be unnormal too

rose garden
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parts 1-7 have one thing in common, dio

sly turret
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what about 6

rose garden
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hes involved in some way or another

sly turret
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sorry not 6, 4

winter musk
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i guess

rose garden
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but with 8 i can tell araki wanted to do something different

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so i dont think it HAS to be space time

winter musk
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it would make sense but i would be sad

sly turret
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The current theory with the SBR verse is that the valentine family takes the role of the brando family

formal blaze
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There was a strong chance when Jobin was hiding Speed King's powers but the moment they were revealed it was really anticlimactic. I remember theorizing that SK actually worked like a microwave and could vibrate its body and the body of things it touched incredibly intensely and precisely, which could heat it up or seriously disrupt and destroy things on the molecular level.

sly turret
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and that someone (possibly Caato) is gonna be a valentine secretly

winter musk
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yes i saw that theory

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but i saw one that said caato was a rock human??

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like tf

queen fox
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That interview (part 9 confirmed) can mean the next villain is completely unrelated to a pattern

winter musk
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of course there is part 9

sly turret
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It's possible that part 8 was orignally planned for Damo to be the main villain, and tha Araki decided to put part 9 stuff into part 8 which is why that arc seemed so climactic

winter musk
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every 3 parts theres a trilogy

rose garden
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yeah i think part 9 will be the last

sly turret
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I would hate for it to be true but with Araki's age its entirely possible that he decided to cancel part 9

winter musk
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yea i saw that

formal blaze
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Then it was like, nope. It's just weaponized heat stroke

sly turret
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someone put this in yesterday

winter musk
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i mean shit like blue hawaii made me want to stop reading lmao

sly turret
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I think some of it might be off, but the erasing identity thing would be a perfect fit for a part 8 villain considering the entire part is about Gappy's identity and previous lives

hoary sun
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Blue Hawaii wasn’t that bad

sly turret
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Nice someone else who didn't mind blue hawaii

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The only thing I kinda hated about it was the shoe thing

formal blaze
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The head doctor's stand has already been explained, though

sly turret
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HD isn't main villain

winter musk
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i mean i was just so tired of that arc

queen fox
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I liked it, people just referenced it to the Highway fight too much

winter musk
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thank god i wasnt reading the series waiting for chapters back then

formal blaze
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It causes anyone who thinks of pursuing or going after him to get attacked immediately.

winter musk
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i heard it was like 7 months

sly turret
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Also it gave us soft and wet with a shovel

winter musk
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I prefer highway star or whatever from part 4

hoary sun
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It’s nothing like highway star lol.

queen fox
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They’re completely different

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Gappy actually failed in this fight lol

sly turret
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Also @formal blaze that stand is probably toorus

minor ore
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I'm trying not to read anything that i should not, I'm on ch.76 in manga and i have SERIOUS question, DM me bcz i dont wanna get spoiled pls

queen fox
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Ngl, that piercing ability is likely something else

sly turret
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sure danilo

winter musk
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i mean the only similarity is that they are both things where the main character run

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away

queen fox
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Because I don’t think the HD can do those two things

formal blaze
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Considering it's showed up every time the Head Doctor was around and seems to be directly protecting him, the idea that it's "probably Toorus" is not probable.

winter musk
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i just dont like it

hoary sun
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Head doctor wasn’t around the most recent time

formal blaze
#

It's also immediately triggered when they think of the doctor and we have not yet seen any other possible stand ability for him

queen fox
#

Ya, so we have that

rose garden
#

what if the head doctors trigger was saying his age

hoary sun
#

Plus, the rain was a coincidence. Not something knocking into them

queen fox
#

Ya

formal blaze
#

^Yo this is pretty cool

#

Not you guys. Sad.png

sly turret
#

That could be a false deduction with the thinking of pursuing him thing

winter musk
#

guys stop playing hes speedwagon

hoary sun
#

A false deduction based on thinking that the rain was somehow caused by HD’s stand

queen fox
#

I think that’s a different stand, the piercing one

winter musk
#

head doctor is weather report tho

formal blaze
#

The rain was a coincidence

Rai literally says the rain is knocking into them, and it's shooting through their bodies like bullets the moment they see the stand behind them

#

Ok sure

queen fox
#

But when the HD ability become piercing?

winter musk
#

yea werent they bleeding hard from that

queen fox
#

That seems inconsistent

hoary sun
#

But the HD’s stand causes things to knock into them

#

It is directly involved with things knocking into them

queen fox
#

It’s likely a team more than anything

winter musk
#

weather report weather report

#

waiting for snails next chapter

queen fox
#

Tooru snitched on Gappy, so it can mean he doesn’t like him

formal blaze
#

"knocking into them" is probably a literal translation

#

A more accurate explanation of the ability is it causes attacks to suddenly appear

queen fox
#

Well no

hoary sun
#

And how do you explain that guy’s neck breaking with a touch when the HD was on a bus driving away and they were no longer following him

formal blaze
#

It doesn't necessarily have to "bump into you"

sly turret
#

I think its working like the hand where it's erasing space drawing objects towards you

queen fox
#

Sounds like Tooru to frame Gappy

sly turret
#

tooru said he would testify for gappy in court though

winter musk
#

not serious ?

#

or lying

queen fox
#

Who said he would?

winter musk
#

he said that to yasuho did he not

sly turret
#

go back and read the chapter where the guy's neck snapped

winter musk
#

yea

hoary sun
#

He did say that, but it could have been to endear himself to her

rose garden
#

how many chapters do you guys think is left?

winter musk
#

21414

sly turret
rose garden
#

i think theres about 10 minimum left to go

sly turret
#

I would guess 20 to 30

formal blaze
#

I think 15 at least.

hoary sun
#

“Most unfortunately”

queen fox
#

Tooru likely caused it, it’s pretty random that he’d directly go to Yashuo then protect someone he doesn’t know

sly turret
#

thats what I was thinking

brazen crater
#

I want you all to know that the 89 years old being the trigger is my idea

formal blaze
#

No way Araki can wrap this up in just 10 issues.

brazen crater
#

this child stole from me

rose garden
#

who are you

brazen crater
#

your worst nightmare

formal blaze
#

Uhhhhhhhhhh

sly turret
#

that would be the dumbest stand ability ever and I love it

kind owlBOT
#

@sly turret, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

formal blaze
#

Ok buddy

#

I heard it from sad.png first

rose garden
#

guys hes lying its my idea

winter musk
#

^

rose garden
#

yeah see

formal blaze
#

So I'm crediting it to him

brazen crater
#

well heres the thing

#

I stole the idea from xforts

formal blaze
#

It was probably a coincidence you both thought of it.

sly turret
#

I KNEW IT

winter musk
#

bruh ok

#

of course its xfarts

sly turret
#

I was about to say isn't that from the new xforts vid

rose garden
#

oh no ive been exposed

queen fox
#

Tooru is working with the HD

rose garden
#

yes its true

sly turret
#

or tooru is the hd

rose garden
#

i am xforts

winter musk
#

tooru is hd lmao

sly turret
#

and old man hd is fake/ random confused old man

#

which would be cool

winter musk
#

that just happens to be going away from josuke and co

brazen crater
#

I stand my ground that the head doctor is a red herring

sly turret
#

yeah

winter musk
#

i mean i think its still a wild goose chase

brazen crater
#

same thing

winter musk
#

i started typing before

brazen crater
#

he exists solely to keep josuke's gang at bay

winter musk
#

sent after

rose garden
#

hi person ive never met, who do you think the villain is

winter musk
#

my bad

sly turret
#

its either a wild goose chase or someone we already know from earlier in the part

hoary sun
#

HD is a red herring. His stand causes things to knock into people that are pursuing him, but they don’t damage more than usual. That’s where tooru’s stand comes in

brazen crater
#

I also think jobin is the villain

rose garden
#

thanks person ive never met

winter musk
#

its green baby from part 6 gottme

brazen crater
#

he literally gets the fattest buff ever in the oujiro returns arc

#

he can kill from anywhere

rose garden
#

yeah its weird

sly turret
#

I saw a thing where apparently temperature when put to an extreme can fuck with gravity which would be a fitting ability for jobin if he was main villain

#

like c moon maybe

winter musk
#

i still like the theory that caato is main villain because we dont know shit about her stand but im dumb

brazen crater
#

the main thing I always see as an argument for jobin not being the villain is that he isn't doing it for villainous reasons

#

but

rose garden
#

oh yeah @brazen crater part 6 spoilers are allowed in here so gtfo and read it already

brazen crater
#

are we forgetting funny valentine

#

eh, I've already been spoiled for part 6 anyway

sly turret
#

valentine wanted to put all of americas misfortune everywhere else on earth essentially making everywhere else a living hell

#

that is pretty villainous

winter musk
#

Lol

rose garden
#

a villain doesnt need villainous intentions

sly turret
#

holly main villain

brazen crater
#

yeah, and Jobin is willing to kill half of morioh because 'plant'

sly turret
#

we still need to ser her goddamn stand

winter musk
#

what if she doesnt have stand

rose garden
#

sure every jofoe has had them but like i said, part 8 isnt following the exact jojo formula

winter musk
#

cuz shesnot strong enough

sly turret
#

she saw paisley park

winter musk
#

im kidding

#

lmao

brazen crater
#

araki is gonna forget to resolve so much from this part

rose garden
#

ikr

sly turret
#

I think he will resolve most of it aside from the bite marks and the weird symbol on kiras hand

winter musk
#

just where tf is my despacito stand

minor ore
#

The kira hand symbol was resolved

sly turret
#

he mentioned the wall eyes again in ch 88 along with the equivalent exchange thing in the ground around the higashikata estate so he hasn't forgot about them

#

no

minor ore
#

It's higashikata symbol

sly turret
#

why was it on kiras hand then

hoary sun
#

The human bite marks

minor ore
#

I don't know but it's 99% irrelevant

hoary sun
#

Corpse head maybe?

minor ore
#

To the story

sly turret
#

oooh

#

I like that luciano

hoary sun
#

Cause the corpse is in morioh, isn’t it?

sly turret
#

I think the corpse was buried in the higashikata estate grounds

analog ether
#

Is that Kira's hand or Joesfumi's hand, is the better question. Because remember, when Josefumi did equivalent exchange with Kira, most of the body parts swapped around. The body we find at the beginning of Part 8 is actually Josefumis

sly turret
#

not most of them

winter musk
#

mans took dem balls

sly turret
#

more like half of them

minor ore
#

The corpse was retrieved by agents but maybe Johnny became a saint

sly turret
#

yeah

minor ore
#

Since he was buried at the exact same location Higashikatas perform eq exchange

sly turret
#

I think the holy corpse if gonna be the stand arrow equivalent of the AU parts, linking them together

analog ether
#

I'm pretty sure the Corpse Parts got taken back, but the effects of the corpse still seem to linger in the Wall Eyes, at least.

minor ore
#

Does that mean the bites you get from the wall eyes are Johnny's?

sly turret
#

that would be funny

minor ore
#

munch

hoary sun
#

Johnny’s dead fuckin- STAND VIRUS

sly turret
#

Johnny's true stand was purple haze all along

minor ore
#

The bites are just limp bizkit's zombie dinosaurs

hoary sun
#

Lmao noooo

minor ore
#

AU limp bizkit

sly turret
#

F L A C I D P A N C A K E

tidal ocean
#

King Everything

#

localized name

sly turret
#

I'm curious to hear more main villain theories, what do you guys think

winter musk
#

i still want to see caato do something at the end

#

i like the fact she revolves around those cards

sly turret
#

watch it be a diavolo situation where the silhouette looks nothing like the actual person and Caato is the one they're chasing

#

even though we already saw the dudes mouth

winter musk
#

funney

minor ore
#

Uhh no

#

We saw his face

winter musk
#

they sad that

#

lmao

#

said8

minor ore
#

Said9

sly turret
#

said10

minor ore
#

He said we saw his mouth

winter musk
#

yes

sly turret
#

did we see his full face?

minor ore
#

But we saw his face from 3 angles

sly turret
#

we never see the top half of his face though right

minor ore
#

I mean, the only thing we still have not seen are his eyes and (presumably bald) head

#

Inb4 he has a mullet

sly turret
#

watch him have long flowing hair like valentine or diavolo

winter musk
#

i just want to see more caato, cuz shes 52, carries cards, her stand involves cards, and theres a chance her stand will have the name queen in it

sly turret
#

I wanna see more caato, karera, and kyo

minor ore
#

I spot a meti fan

winter musk
#

lamo

sly turret
#

I mean I watch most of the big jojo youtubers

winter musk
#

^

sly turret
#

thats not why I said that though

minor ore
#

I was talking about her stand name

sly turret
#

I just really want to see more of them since they were all super interesting when introduced and then disappeared

#

oh gotcha

winter musk
#

i caught on to the card stuff myself

#

its very simple

sly turret
#

I didn't notice the card thing, but I noticed the king thing

winter musk
#

theres a theory i saw about 4 people with stands with card names

sly turret
#

the card names are given to the actual kids

winter musk
#

so Jobin has king, and associates with caato, caato has something with queen

#

tooru club or ace and i cant remember the last person

#

but yeah all these higashikata kids have king and then heart lmao

sly turret
#

I know Tsurugi is something with spade

analog ether
#

Heart?

winter musk
#

walking heart

#

right?

analog ether
#

WalKING Heart?

sly turret
#

its just another king name

winter musk
#

i guess

sly turret
#

the heart is just kinda there

winter musk
#

but its different

analog ether
#

Not really any different from AwaKING 3 Leaves

sly turret
#

none of the other stands are related to card types so its probably just a coincidence that its heart

winter musk
#

yea

analog ether
#

I mean her name is Hato

sly turret
#

side note Awaking III leaves is sick and I wanna see it again

analog ether
#

as in "Hearto"

sly turret
#

Daiya is diamond

#

and Joshu is trashbin

minor ore
#

mitsuba is clover

#

joshu is god*

sly turret
#

Sorry, I misspelled it

analog ether
#

All the men have "Jo" in their name
All the women have card names

sly turret
#

and then theres tsurugi

analog ether
#

He's a card reference, no?

sly turret
#

who is spade

#

but also a boy

analog ether
#

Well, he's meant to look like a girl

#

that's the point

sly turret
#

unless he gets a jo name after he beats the rock disease

analog ether
#

Tsurugi gets a girl's name because he's supposed to be disguised as a women

sly turret
#

yes

analog ether
#

So it works out

sly turret
#

but Jobin was the same and he doesn't have a card name

minor ore
#

same for norisuke

sly turret
#

so I think they might get a new name once they start being a boy?

analog ether
#

Well Jobin never actually dressed up as a girl, did he?

sly turret
#

yes

#

every first born is

analog ether
#

The flashback doesn't show him as a girl tho

sly turret
#

they said it was a tradition

kind owlBOT
#

@sly turret, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !

minor ore
#

I think tsurugi said that his father has also done it

analog ether
#

I think

winter musk
#

probably still did it

sly turret
#

Like all first born sons in the Higashikata family, Tsurugi is being raised as a girl for the first 12 years of his life to ward off the stone disease. However, this aspect of his upbringing is almost never touched upon save for his dress and seemingly has no bearing on neither his personality nor his various relationships, nobody showing a particular reaction to this.

#

found this on the wiki

sly turret
#

anybody else notice the uncomfortable amount of underwear shots of Tsurugi

brazen crater
#

yes

#

anyone notice how yasuho exists solely to get raped

#

despite that she is still best girl

sly turret
#

not raped

#

just lusted after

#

only Joshu tried to rape her

analog ether
#

Oooooohhhhhhhh

brazen crater
#

alright, exists solely to be sexually assaulted

sly turret
#

there ya go

analog ether
#

Joshu

#

Did

#

No

#

Such

#

Thing

sly turret
#

sorry, not rape

heavy grove
#

Yeah hes innocent

#

He thought she gave him consent

sly turret
#

he thought she wanted to fuck him because he thought "josuke" was a nickname or something for him, and when she wanted to go somewhere quiet, he thought she wanted to fuck, and when she started to freak out, he still didn't catch on

#

so not a rapist

#

Joshu is just sad

heavy grove
#

He DID however try to rape his mom

analog ether
#

He misheard "Josuke" as "Joshu-suke" which means "I love Joshu"

stone maple
#

Please dont talk about rape

analog ether
#

I mean

#

It is a thing that happened?

sly turret
#

it was a thing

mortal oasis
#

@brazen crater don't use slurs

#

you still can't talk about that topci

heavy grove
#

Yeah it is in the manga

mortal oasis
#

topic*

heavy grove
#

Oh

hazy crystal
heavy grove
brazen crater
#

which one

mortal oasis
#

t slur

sly turret
#

when did arceah use slurs

brazen crater
#

yeah I didn't?

sly turret
mortal oasis
#

the other word for crossdresser

hazy crystal
#

how is that

analog ether
#

He did not joshu her

heavy grove
#

That's a slur?

mortal oasis
heavy grove
#

I never noticed

brazen crater
#

why?

hazy crystal
#

because some people get offended

sly turret
#

what slur are you talking about

#

did I miss something

hazy crystal
#

and others are crossdressers and don't want to be labelled as such

#

I think that's my understanding

analog ether
#

The thing Fred from the Scooby Doo show likes

sly turret
#

oh

#

gotcha

brazen crater
#

literally all crossdressers I know use that word themselves

hazy crystal
#

bring me the fredfacts

sly turret
#

wait

mortal oasis
#

It's seen as transphobic

sly turret
#

thats a slir????

hazy crystal
#

what

mortal oasis
#

just don't use it

sly turret
#

its a dumb meme name

mortal oasis
#

you can use the term cross dresser but not that word

heavy grove
#

Man this convo is kinda joshu

hazy crystal
#

I don't see how crossdressers are inherently trans

mortal oasis
#

ok

sly turret
#

I never thought of it as a slur

mortal oasis
#

I literally just told you not to use it

sly turret
#

I WAS USING IT AS CONTEXT

mortal oasis
#

not even if you use parenthesis

hazy crystal
#

apparently enough people think it's a slur to warrant it even if I don't agree with it

sly turret
#

THIS IS JUST CENSORSHIP

heavy grove
#

Hey guys, can we talk about jojolion

sly turret
#

I DIDNT USE IT AS AN INSULT

mortal oasis
#

stop arguing about it

#

it's a slur just don't use it

woven anvilBOT
#

@sly turret has been muted.
Reason: No reason provided

heavy grove
#

F

brazen crater
#

hang on hang on, they had a point

#

what does cross dressing have to do with being trans

mortal oasis
#

it's not

#

being trans and a cross dresser is two completely different things

hazy crystal
#

there's no arguing with it, people got offended over the word so they had to ban it

mortal oasis
#

just don't use the slur and it'll be fine

brazen crater
#

then why is a cross dressing term a trans slur?

hazy crystal
#

it's weird and I don't see why people would get offended but

#

the larger the discord the more you have to be inclusive

mortal oasis
#

just change the topic please

#

this is getting out of hand

#

it's the rules, I don't make them

stone maple
#

Can you get a new topic about jojolion and not argue

analog ether
heavy grove
#

Bros can this conversation happen, not in the jojolion chat

mortal oasis
#

talk about joshu!!!!

analog ether
heavy grove
tidal ocean
#

take a shot every time this panel has been posted

#

dies

analog ether
#

He looks content with life

#

But I would be too If I singlehandly discovered that my local supermarket where using suspicious mareketing practices to lessen the amount of delivery of fish sausages were needed.

tidal ocean
#

don't forget about ZA HAIRCUT

#

Joshu's hair requiem

analog ether
#

He's grown more hair as the series has went on

heavy grove
#

What if tsurugi made everyone have joshu hair

analog ether
#

He started off with the JUST and now his got hair on his sides

heavy grove
#

Instant nut

tidal ocean
heavy grove
#

Who has a screencap of baby joshu?

heavy grove
#

Ah yes, that's the one

#

He is a little babey

minor ore
#

Daiya should get more screentime

heavy grove
#

Yeah

#

She cute af

minor ore
#

makes me sad best waifu doesn't get barely any screentime at all

heavy grove
#

Kyo is best waifu, and yeah I wish she had more screentime

minor ore
#

Who is Kyo

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

heavy grove
#

The maid

minor ore
#

I dont even remember her talking

#

Even though she literally is Josuke's Sister

heavy grove
#

She has one of the most important arcs tho

#

And a great stand

#

And shes Kira's brother, not josukes

minor ore
#

Yes

#

Josuke is Kira

west zealot
#

Wow so Norisuke's descendant also named Norisuke looks like a weird version of Gyro lol

#

I can dig it

heavy grove
#

Only half

#

OH

#

New jojolion readers?

west zealot
#

That is I

heavy grove
#

Sick

#

Jojolion is my favorite part

minor ore
#

Like, I like the story heavy direction Part 8 is going right

#

But

#

I don't get shit in fights

#

I dont understand neither Stands

#

Nor fights

heavy grove
#

I'd leave before you get spoiled @west zealot

west zealot
#

Oh I know I come in here every now and then

heavy grove
#

Jojolion has great fights what

west zealot
#

It's kinda what I did with SBR

heavy grove
#

And stands

west zealot
#

I'm also good at not reading things

minor ore
#

I didnt say they are bad

brazen crater
#

I feel like jojolion reverted to part 3's style of fights

minor ore
#

I just dont get shit

brazen crater
#

where its more stand then user

#

atleast for the first half

#

recently its definitely more about the users

heavy grove
#

The worst thing about jojolion for me is how little other characters get screentime wise

brazen crater
#

yeah

minor ore
#

Agreed

brazen crater
#

Daiya is great

heavy grove
#

And how underused they are

brazen crater
#

she reminds me of one of my characters

minor ore
#

Give me my Daiya ;-;

heavy grove
#

I want more nut king call, other than gags

#

We need more joshu

minor ore
#

Also I really think Soft & Wet is kind of underutilized

heavy grove
#

Yeah he stopped using his plunder ability

minor ore
#

Even though its my favourite protagonist stand up to this point

#

but like

#

Josuke barely uses it

heavy grove
#

Josuke is my favorite protagonist in general, but yeah I agree

#

Especially as of late

minor ore
#

Joshu got a lot of screentime around Chapter 30-40

#

Remember the exchange leaves and the more money stand

heavy grove
#

Soft and wet is like opposite stone free, it's used in more interesting ways earlier on instead of later on

#

Now it's just a punch stand with bubbles

minor ore
#

Kind of sad

#

I love Part 8

heavy grove
#

Yeah

minor ore
#

I never knew Araki had the ability to actually storywrite

#

but

#

There are so many things that could be better

heavy grove
#

That's what I love about it though, even if things arent used to their full potential, it's still amazing

minor ore
#

and I just wish Part 8 would be perfect, I love the characters, the stands and the setting

#

but there is so much unused potential

brazen crater
#

soft and wet is so strong, but its never used

analog ether
#

Nothing's perfect.

brazen crater
#

I would argue that soft and wet is one of the strongest protagonist stands

analog ether
#

But Part 8 is really damn good

heavy grove
#

I also find it sad that there is a lack if ora rushes recently

analog ether
#

And while a lot of potential might go unused, a lot of it was

heavy grove
#

Sure we got one last chapter, but other than that

brazen crater
#

remember when he stole daiya's hearing

heavy grove
#

There isn't a lot

brazen crater
#

josuke can literally steal someones sight and if they are close range power stand, they are screwed

analog ether
#

Sure some characters might not get a lot of shine, but the fact that people want pretty much every character to have more screen time proves that Araki has done a damn good job with his characters

brazen crater
#

yeah

#

I unironically want more Joshu because his stand is great

heavy grove
#

Also can we talk about how doggy style is just a much better stone free?

brazen crater
#

I love nut king call, its got such a good ability and design

heavy grove
#

I feel like doggy style doesn't get talked about that much

brazen crater
#

it doesn't get talked about much because of exactly what you just said

#

its just stone free

heavy grove
#

But better

#

Rai just uses so much more efficiently

#

He turned his arm into a damn crossbow

minor ore
#

Norisuke still thinks to this day that Josuke banged his 16 year old favourite daughter

heavy grove
#

CKB is a great fight tho

#

It also has one of the funnier out of context moments

odd monolith
#

Now just wait one goddamn second

#

....89 years old?????

heavy grove
#

Ik I make jokes about the head doctor being 89, but if we're talking for real

#

He doesnt have an age

#

Hes a rock human

#

So I gotta change my ways of HD jokes

minor ore
#

Are all rock humans dickheads?

odd monolith
#

Yes

void viper
#

yeah

heavy grove
#

Not really, they just want to protect the rokakaka

odd monolith
#

The dick is very important

analog ether
#

Remove Rocks

minor ore
#

They want to protect the rokakaka so they sell the rokakaka

#

Makes sense

heavy grove
#

Also aisho is babey so

odd monolith
#

You spelled josuke wrong

heavy grove
#

I'll defend him till him last breath

#

Nonono

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He is babey

fallen trellis
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Best rock human gang rise up

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Hm

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We've seen Yotsuyu, Aisho, Damo, A Phex Twins, Poor Tom, Urban Guerrilla, Doctor Wu and now HD

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Who do you guys like the most and least

sly turret
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hey ive been unmuted whats up

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dont forget damo

fallen trellis
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Oh yeah

sly turret
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damo easily best rock human fight so far

heavy grove
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I like aisho the most obviously and I never liked urban guerrilla

sly turret
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same

heavy grove
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I also dont like his rock animal dog thing

void viper
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damo is such a good rock human I forgot he was a rock human

fallen trellis
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I can't remember any rock fights very well besides Yotsuyu, Aisho, Damo and Wu

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But I remember hating the twins

sly turret
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plot twist, damo's body was picked up and fuses with someone later to become the main antagonist

heavy grove
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Josuke bashed damos head in and jobin was like jotarosweat

analog ether
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with someone

heavy grove
sly turret
tidal ocean
minor ore
void viper
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joshu fuses with weed

tidal ocean
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oh no

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what will happen to higashikata house then

real ferry
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You can't use with what you already are

void viper
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I think everyone might get high

tidal ocean
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what about burning it

sly turret
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side note some people still think joshu is the jobro

real ferry
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Drug King Call

tidal ocean
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Can't wait for King Everything in anime

real ferry
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Emperor Nothing

analog ether
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Joshu's plan to replace the Highashikata's Fruit Orchad is with a Weed Garden

sly turret
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what is the soft and wet translation name

heavy grove
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Joshu brings weed to the higashikata household and it actually was the rokakaka and he fuses with the house itself

real ferry
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Moist and Tender

analog ether
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It doens't have one actually

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Funny that

sly turret
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really?

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huh

heavy grove
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It's actually damp and comfortable

analog ether
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Which is pretty incredible considering it's a fucking PRINCE song

sly turret
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yeah gold experience got one

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thats a prince song

analog ether
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The entire Golden Wind game got one

real ferry
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Paisley Park finna be localized to Lincoln Park

analog ether
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Paisley Camp

real ferry
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Paisley Parking

sly turret
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running heart

real ferry
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Walking Beats

sly turret
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paper plane king

analog ether
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It'll be localised to Barshaw Park

left iris
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isnt there a localized name already

real ferry
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Dark Blue Moon King

left iris
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flower park i believe

minor ore
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@tidal ocean what Part 8 Anime

analog ether
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Daisy Park

tidal ocean
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@minor ore 2028

fallen trellis
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Yeah it's flower park

minor ore
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Great

tidal ocean
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I'm in 2028 it's good tbh

sly turret
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yo whos the main villain

analog ether
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what colour is josuke

real ferry
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Send a link to the op

fallen trellis
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orange in the games

tidal ocean
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main villain is actually weed plot twist

analog ether
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Yeh, but what about the anime?

void viper
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pretty sure joe is the main villian @sly turret

tidal ocean
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Smokey returns and kills Joshu

sly turret
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oh dang

real ferry
analog ether
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Joe, Jotaro's son

sly turret
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wint hes 9

real ferry
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For now

analog ether
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Okuyasu

heavy grove
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Actually alternate universe part 2 fat cop returns and kills everyone

analog ether
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What are you doing in part 8?

real ferry
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He became Kyo according to the meme

brazen crater
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josuke is there too

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right next to him

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the jojolion ads are great

analog ether
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Smh, why didn't Jorge Joestar add a scene of Okuyasu survivng the reset because he was too stupid to realise what was happening

real ferry
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No that's Josuke not Josuke

heavy grove
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Joshu looks terrifying on that image

minor ore
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Is Jobin a cool guy or a pisshead now, like he seemed pretty chill at the beetle fight, but now something is up with the rokakaka?

real ferry
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He does

brazen crater
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sorry I forgot about josuke not josuke

heavy grove
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He seems like a 3rd party

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With kaato

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And mitsuba maybe

real ferry
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Yeah and don't forget of Josuke IV taking care of Josuke

brazen crater
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just in case you want the original

void viper
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Josuke IV

analog ether
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Joshu is seething

real ferry
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Heir to Josuke I who won 3rd place in the Steel Ball Run Race

heavy grove
real ferry
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3rd place, right?

minor ore
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Ok then

heavy grove
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I'm scared of joshu

sly turret
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That yasuho voice just doesn't fit for some reason

heavy grove
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Speaking of voices

analog ether
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Mmmmmm mmmmm mmmmmmm honey balls mmmmmm

heavy grove
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Josukes voice in the game feels off

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Eoh

minor ore
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Oh right someone told me Part 8 got an artstyle change?

real ferry
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Too rough?

sly turret
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in EoH?

heavy grove
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Yeah

minor ore
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SOFTA ANDO WETTO

sly turret
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I thought the same

real ferry
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Yeah he needs to be more bishie

sly turret
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even with Joshu

analog ether
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Every part has an art style change

minor ore
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No I mean, Part 8 got a change in the newer chapters

sly turret
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more of a gradual change throughout

heavy grove
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It looks the same to me

minor ore
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Ok good

analog ether
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Yeah, that happens with every part.
The art gets gradualy different over time

sly turret
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I think he has a bit less same face syndrome

real ferry
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Last chapter was hella different

heavy grove
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It looks a bit softer personally but maybe thats just me

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Yeah

analog ether
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Same face is definitely fixed, more or less at this point

minor ore
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As long as best girl daiya still looks cute no problem with me

heavy grove
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Yeah

analog ether
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Well as fixed as it can be for Araki

real ferry
heavy grove
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And norisuke looks good this chapter

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Too bad hes gonna die soon

sly turret
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wint what is with you and underage people

analog ether
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16 is legal in lile 80% of the world famboski, including where I live

sly turret
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oh right

real ferry
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Azur it's not my fauuult
Araki knows what he's doing