#jojolion

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supple plaza
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Think of it more like a Shadow from Persona, if you're familiar

ocean mirage
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if paper moon becomes that it would just attack anything and anyone then

supple plaza
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Absolutely

ocean mirage
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oh yeah a shadow

hoary sun
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Maybe Tsurugi thinks he’s a bad person, so his stand is unconsciously doing bad things

supple plaza
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And its way of attacking is even more terrifying than just simply murdering

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Who the hell knows if it even has a limit on how many people it can effect

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Imagine the entirety of Morioh taken by a mass hallucination

ocean mirage
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it used to affect yasuho alone

supple plaza
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It would be like Silver Chariot Requiem/Bohemian Rhapsody all over again

ocean mirage
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i like the stands that have huge range

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pretty OP

hoary sun
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Bohemian rhapsody, a stand that affected the entire world

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And it wasn’t even a main villain stand

supple plaza
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Yeah it quite possibly has the highest kill count of any Stand ever

ocean mirage
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It's bizzare for sure

supple plaza
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It's actually probably a good thing that the world was reset shortly after

hoary sun
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No yeah

supple plaza
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Cause who the fuck knows in what state the world was in after that mess

hoary sun
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The world could NOT recover after something like that

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Fictional characters coming to life and killing poorly

ocean mirage
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i wouldn't want tom and jerry to comically kills me

hoary sun
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People

supple plaza
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It's surprising it didn't just straight up destroy the world due to it summoning some world cracking fictional characters like any DBZ villain

ocean mirage
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no other anime in jojo world i guess

supple plaza
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Or hero for that matter

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Even then there's like

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Chtulhu

ocean mirage
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several of them

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probably killed a bunch

supple plaza
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I know this has nothing to do with Jojolion but remember when Silver Chariot Requiem started to summon eldritch demons?

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What the hell was that all about?

ocean mirage
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when was that happen?

supple plaza
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The bodies of the affected people and animals started to mutate

ocean mirage
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oh i think it just change things, not really summon anything

supple plaza
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It's never explained

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It comes out of nowhere

inner yew
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It was dumb. I think it was just there to set up a time-limit or end goal to requiem.

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So he wasn’t just wondering around forever, it added some urgency to the situation.

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Part 5 has the worst ending for sure, even if it fuckin’ rad

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Part 5 is basically all spectacle to me, there’s a lot of badassery but character and plot are very thin

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Jojolion is basically the opposite.

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Everything is very lowkey

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Slowburn with good interweaving character development

shrewd vortex
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honestly what was that last chapter

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sooo much nonsense

minor ore
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i think there's a lot more substance to part 5 than a lot of people give it credit for but the finale was the weakest of the entire franchise, almost manifesting like an assortment of unused concepts shoved into a messy package

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part 8 feels all over the place so far but the loose ends seem ripe to coalesce by the finale

fallen trellis
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Do we agree with him? This was posted when the latest chapter was Chapter 63ish, during the Blue Hawaii arc

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62*

proper ether
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what did he say?

lost slate
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the captions say jojolion is 60-70% finished

proper ether
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hmmmm

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its a pretty close guess

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usually jojo parts are roughly 100 chapters

minor ore
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I doubt that theres only 10 chapters left

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20 at least

inner yew
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Generally once the final battle begins, a large amount of chapters are devoted to it. So yeah, I’d say Jojolion still has 2-4 more years left in it.

void viper
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my guess is 2 more years

violet coral
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After jojolion ends, Araki will take a big break and hopefully bring us part 9

minor ore
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Araki will take a big break

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By dying of old age

hybrid pawn
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Hey no

minor ore
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AU hey ya

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My guess is that the "final battle" is going to be like DiU

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So we are already finishing the July 15th Arc

minor ore
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Ideally main villain gets "revealed" in the next couple chapters and we get a long, funny valentine length end fight

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to give whoever the main villain is a good amount of time to cement themselves in place

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Yea

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And the fv fight was for like 20 chapters or more

grim arch
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Doobie Wah is underrated

void viper
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in what way?

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cause I agree it's underrated in power

minor ore
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the automatic stands in jjl tend to be the most powerful in the part

void viper
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born this way wasn't THAT powerful once you figured the trick out

minor ore
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Still, theres no way to find the owner using just the stand

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So youd be stuck trying to not open things indefinitely

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Fuck this last chapter

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My boy ojiro got done dirty

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(Cheap)

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And got called trash

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ojiroshouldhavewon

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2 chapters of build up with no pay off

void viper
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no pay off

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Speed kings real power isn’t a pay off

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Ok

minor ore
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Huh?

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the payoff is a better motive for jobin and some speed king power reveal

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Wait that's just his regular power

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Moving heat

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That's what he does

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he pretty much just brought back ojiro to keep the fight shorter without having to explain an entirely new stand and motive

void viper
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We didn’t know it could do that before this chapte r

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That’s the whole point

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We now know it has two abilities, long range heat storage and short range heat control

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The latter was used in beetle tendency and the former was just introduced now

minor ore
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That sounds pretty disappointing

void viper
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?! He can literally assassinate ANYONE HE TOUCHES

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AT ANY POINT

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As long as they have something that produces heat touching them

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How is that disappointing

minor ore
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not just anyone he touches, anyone who touches something hes touched

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !

minor ore
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like killer queen's primary bomb kinda

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but more useful

void viper
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It’s very killer queeny

minor ore
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Couldn't he do that before tho?

violet coral
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Its like how kira killed shigechi, kira touched the door nob, and waited for him to touch so he could explode

minor ore
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Like what he did with the tissue he gave to josuke

void viper
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We didn’t know he could do that before now, as I said

minor ore
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ehh id argue its less useful than kq because it doesnt get rid of the body

void viper
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Wait

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That’s a good point

minor ore
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Which tissue

void viper
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After the beetle fifth

minor ore
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Oh but that one didn't kill him

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In the end of beetle tendency

void viper
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*fight

minor ore
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it worked differently

void viper
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I completely forgot about that

minor ore
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Still the same concept

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I don't know how they'd explain it

void viper
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Maybe joblin wanted Josuke alive?

minor ore
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^

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No I mean

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How can he control it

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Joblin

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After it activates

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Jobin x a goblin

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if it would be deadly or not

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Unless

void viper
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I imagine he could stop it or manage how fast it transfers heat

minor ore
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He chose the amount of heat to store or somehting like that

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The big thing here is that we see both how huge the range of his power is (not just a few feet like a lot of people thought) and that he can make things hot enough to kill pretty effectively

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I'm just sad ojiro got hyped up so much, managed to uncover the conspiracy and then all his efforts went wasted

void viper
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Reminds me of someone discovering a certain servered hand then dying

minor ore
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Diego?

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shigechi

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lol

void viper
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No shigechi

minor ore
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Hand of i read it as head

void viper
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diego
Lmao

minor ore
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I read it as head

void viper
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Ohhhh ok

minor ore
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Anywyay no one will miss Shigechi

void viper
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^

minor ore
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except for araki, lmao

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he's in arakis top 10 jjba characters

void viper
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Araki has shit taste

minor ore
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That was before part 5

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yeah fuck this araki guy

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Fun fun fun was looking pretty interesting there too

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He can make marks on touch

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that was sick

lilac pumice
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Fun Fun Fun more like Dead Dead Dead

minor ore
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Too soon

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looking forward to this next old man chapter, hope we get some good reveals

lilac pumice
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Is the next one really chapter 89?

minor ore
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Tfw you got magma with a screaming face on you after touching your bf's phone

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Just girl things

lilac pumice
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Girls on the internet dont exist

minor ore
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tfw u die and fall into a pool and ur zoomer daughter doesnt notice anything

lilac pumice
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Araki really made a statement on society

minor ore
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She better avenge her dad

lilac pumice
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Oujiro may not have been her father but he was her daddy

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what?

minor ore
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Oh his wife was divorced and already had a child when he met her

lilac pumice
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yeah

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and she wasnt his wife

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she was just his gf

minor ore
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Dangit

lilac pumice
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Oujiro is a milfhunter

minor ore
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Probably had a wedding arranged before jobin ruined it as always

lilac pumice
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Nah

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Jobin saved Oujiro from that girl

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excuse me

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I meant Thot

minor ore
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It was too late, he already dipped the chip in her salsa

lilac pumice
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Well, he was the trash man after all

minor ore
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Rip

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I'm never forgiving jobin

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Already didn't like him but this shit was the last straw

lilac pumice
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Jobin is hella cool the heck you mean

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I mean imagine you and your child are almost getting killed

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of course you are gonna violently murder the attacker

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Though, Jobin did do tax fraud so thats pretty bad tbh

minor ore
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Ojiro could have killed them then and there

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Stupid ass pmk used its ability somehow

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Did he really want them dead tho

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apparently it just makes illusions on anyone now

lilac pumice
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Well PMK could always mess with the vision of people

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Tsurugi only matured and found more creative and better ways to use his ability

minor ore
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It got changed so much throughout the manga

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I think araki just retconned

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it happens

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First it made faces similar, then it makes objects look like people or other objects, and now it doesn't even need the stupid friggin paper

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what paper?

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the origami?

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Yeah

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He did touch ojiro with the origami, check the panels

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he throws it out when ojiro asks to see jobins stands

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Oh

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why did he make ojiro so likeable only to kill him

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Could have made him a shitty incel who investigates the higashikatas to get revenge

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Like he always was

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instead he made him an absolute chad

minor ore
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And then died like an absolute not chad

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he died like shigechi

lilac pumice
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True

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Speed King has already touched that Money

pallid crest
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aw man

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rip ojiro

fallen trellis
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Bruh why couldn’t they have used some other minor villain

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Ojiro was cool

minor ore
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Ojiro was an incel but he made him cool

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Wouldn't have cared much if ojiro wasn't made so goddamn LOVABLE

scarlet viper
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wait so

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how would Oujiro notice his hands were hot from speed king

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If he has prophetic fingers

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araki pls

minor ore
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He felt that they are hot because that's how heat works

violet coral
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Essentially, think of Speed King as OG Killer Queen.
Both can store something, when KQ can store a bomb into a door nob/coin/school badge
Speed King can store heat into something and when someone touches that object the heat transfers, oh and speed king can do some other stuff but that was the big highlight of this chapter

minor ore
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Without sha

violet coral
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watch as speed king develops a SHA powerup and it's just a mini fireball that follows you everywhere

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araki when?

shrewd vortex
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this new chapter was soo badly written it pains me

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it felt to me like blue hawaii 2.0

fallen trellis
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What was wrong with Blue Hawaii?

craggy vault
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And how was this anything like blue hawaii at all?

kind owlBOT
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@craggy vault, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

inner yew
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Blue Hawaii was awesome. Sanitation battle. It was just a cascade of creative attacks and dodges, culminating in a sad moment of personality for Josuke, when he refused to kill the baby

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Also seeing him get possessed was chilling

fallen trellis
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Yeah I wasn't expecting Araki to take it in that direction

shrewd vortex
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are you guys serious

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the ending of blue hawaii's arc was just so stupid

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nothing made sense

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josuke got infected by getting blood on his shoe, even though literally the same thing happened with the fat lady like 1 or 2 chapters before

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not to mention that josuke had a cringey plot device moral dilema moment with the baby

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  • jobin conveniently damaging yasuho's brain juuust enough for her to pass out for some time and not die nor get any permament damage afterwards
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she still showed up out of nowhere to kill the user

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not to mention blue hawaii's power being rewritten at the end to completely control josuke's body and even make him speak

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  • the arc was really repetitive and araki spent like almost an entire year to finish it
minor ore
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Also it was kinda useless to the story

shrewd vortex
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yeah, just like this last arc

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filler

minor ore
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Yeah but blue hawaii was way longer

inner yew
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How is the baby shit cringeworthy

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He’s not inhuman

shrewd vortex
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he literally killed a child right before that

inner yew
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Nah the kid lived

shrewd vortex
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...sure

inner yew
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It shows him coming to after the stand switches targets

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The kid is like “huh?”

shrewd vortex
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the kid had his neck twisted, he bled a fuck ton

inner yew
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Just read the chapter, the kid if gored for sure but shows signs of snapping out of it

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It would be fucking stupid if Josuke crushed the baby and was like HELL YEAH!

shrewd vortex
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well, then araki really likes pointless gore

inner yew
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That’s true.

shrewd vortex
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but not in a good way

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like in a way that's detrimental to jojo

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that misleads the readers

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but yeah

inner yew
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Have you not read Jojo before?

kind owlBOT
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@inner yew, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

minor ore
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Yoo

shrewd vortex
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i read every single arc + spin off, most of them more than once

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i just think it's a legit issue

inner yew
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Since part 1 the characters have been getting unrealistically bludgeoned and pierced to the point of basic death

shrewd vortex
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i know that

inner yew
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But they always are fine

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So Blue Hawaii is no exception.

shrewd vortex
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sure, i agree

inner yew
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Sorry, that was a mean way to word that, not trying to belittle you.

shrewd vortex
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i'm not criticizing this arc specifically, more like jojo in general

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i love gory manga, my favorite mangaka is probably suehiro maruo

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i love gore in jojo but i think it should have more consequences to the affected characters

inner yew
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I see. I can agree with that. Araki’s uses blood and wounds as spectacle, they basically mean nothing.

minor ore
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It's kinda bullshit how mamezuku implodes one chapter and is fine in the next

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At least with part 4-7 you had medic stands

pastel adder
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bring back zombie horse araki

minor ore
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Well it kinda works like oh lonesome me

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Recovering from the damage

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But I think it's pretty bs

inner yew
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Since 8 doesn’t a healer, there’s a guy who can just take a fuckload of damage.

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Also I’m kind of worried about Gappy taking on SK

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He can’t remove stuff from his own body

minor ore
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Oh yeah mamezuku always gets the worst damage

inner yew
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So if he touches an object he’s fucked

shrewd vortex
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i miss a main jojo dying to be honest

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sadly i doubt we'll see gappy dying

inner yew
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A main Jojo’s death happened in part 8 tho

minor ore
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This part might end in gappy dying in some way, his goal is to use the roka on Holly, that means he dies wether he gets the fruit or not

shrewd vortex
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@inner yew joshu's still alive bud

minor ore
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3 jojos actually

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Tfw jojolion has the most jojo deaths

pastel adder
shrewd vortex
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we don't see a proper jojo death since part 1

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part 6 kind of counts but not really

minor ore
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Kira, josefumi and johnny

shrewd vortex
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johnny died in a really stupid way imo

minor ore
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Yeah

pastel adder
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AU rolling stone took him out

shrewd vortex
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my favorite part of jojo's is how the characters grow old and sometimes help the next main cast

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but with part 8 araki just said fuck it

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and killed off johnny in a flashback

minor ore
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I mean, the last part was set in the old west

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Lucy Steele appears in jojolion as a 200 year old granny

shrewd vortex
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it was araki's decision to make jojolion during the 2000s

fallen trellis
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Tbh I'm happy to see a JoJo part set in modern times

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I know technically parts 3-6 came out around the times they were set (+/- like 2 decades) but still

minor ore
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Jojo with iphones

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Digital stand battles like that one megaman spinoff

fallen trellis
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JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Part 2: Battle Network

violet coral
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Part 3: Troll Dust Crusaders

fallen trellis
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you know, it's kind of weird

violet coral
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?

fallen trellis
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For some reason, I don't associate Phantom Blood and (moreso) Battle Tendency with their respective parts

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like they just don't seem like Part titles to mw

violet coral
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What would you call them if you had the chance then?

fallen trellis
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I don't know

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It's not that they're bad titles, but they sound unfamiliar for some reason

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Maybe because 3-6 are named after the main stands so I can hear them in the actual Manga/Anime, while 1 and 2 aren't really based on anything

minor ore
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Jojo part 1: castlevania
Jojo part 2: jojiana jones

hoary sun
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jojiana jones and the friendliest nazi

minor ore
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Do you guys think the wiki should separate the Josefumi and Josuke 8 pages?
Because Josuke states "I am Josefumi Kujo."
And then the manga volume has Josuke's character profile say: "It was discovered that he is Josefumi Kujo with part of the deceased Yoshikage Kira's body with him. He still has lost his memories."
So do you guys think that Josefumi's history should be under Josuke's page or kept separate?

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I think both should be under josuke's page, as most people consider josuke to be both josefumi and kira, not just josefumi with kira parts

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Well

fallen trellis
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Different pages for all 3

kind owlBOT
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@fallen trellis, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

minor ore
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I don't think Kira should ever be under Josuke's page

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dude is dead

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But he lives on as josuke

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its like two souls in one body

worthy coyote
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I thought he was a new person one soul

minor ore
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not two souls no

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I mean in the sense that kira didnt really die

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although his body was found

worthy coyote
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Also i thought he was more josefumi than kira

minor ore
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Kira did really die

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And he is more Josefumi

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They should be separated

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It's like saying Johnathan's page needs to be combined with dio's

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I think that's really different

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he's got the stand but he clearly takes on a lot of halves. half eye, and half tongue, his teeth for instance. He gets a lot of the personality/likes/dislikes from kira too

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like the sailor uniform comes from kira's half

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Josuke and josefumi are completely different characters, doesn't matter if they have the same body

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the stands power is different as well

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Josefumi and Josuke aren't completely different, it's just Josuke has Kira's body with him.

worthy coyote
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Bruh

minor ore
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Yes?

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I can't say for sure if Josuke and Josefumi have different souls

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I can't really decide

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josuke himself definitely retains memories from both, at least

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I think Josuke is just Josefumi without memories and more of Yoshikage Kira's inhibitions and personality.

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as shown in vitamin c

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thats a neat take

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He doesn't have memories

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I also think the majority of memories got locked in Kira's body as part of the exchange.

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He said it in the vitamin c arc

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He remembered the blonde dude

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he gains a lot of them back in the vitamin c arc

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Nope

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he remembers how he became himself

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in a quick flashback after punching damo

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I'm sure of it he says that he still does not remember anything

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no dude

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Gappy will have Kira personality emerging when on brink of defeat. Then kira will use sheer heart attack. Diavolo/Doppio AU

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Right after the arc

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i promise you ill pull up the panel

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ok

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We do get to see the "fusing"

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But it wasn't Josuke's memory I think

worthy coyote
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I need to reread the past couple volumes ive forgotten so much waiting for the new chapters each month

minor ore
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Josuke's personality is his own

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He might exhibit certain traits from kira at times but he's mostly doing his own thing

worthy coyote
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^

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Well....

minor ore
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I don't think you got what i meant

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I mean their personalities, abilities and design are so completely different

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They're different characters, but they're the same person

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You feel me?

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Ah, I feel you.

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And I apologize.

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Josuke comes out

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NANI

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yo y'all remember when Josuke made Tooru freakin W E T

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That's his stand ability after all

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that wasn't him getting memories back

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what do you mean

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Yeah the volumes after that state he still has no memories I believe

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Jojolion is just a ripoff of the witcher 2

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I am sure that he said he retained no memories somewhere after that arc, and that's just a panel that kind of sums up the event and compiles characters involved in that event, not Josuke's memories.

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Amnesiac protagonists getting their memories back and uncovering secret conspiracies while being total badasses? It's too similar

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what a cutie

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Pea mamezuku

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before he started looking more like xForts

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Mamepeaku

hybrid pawn
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Guys how many chapters does jojoilon have currently?

minor ore
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88

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88

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YESYESYESYESYES Araki watches xForts confirmed btw

hybrid pawn
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Thanks

minor ore
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8 9

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something is odd about that number

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Really?

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I can't believe it.

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Something is odd about 89?

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Are you sure you mean 89?

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Nah i don't think so

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Is it?

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@minor ore ahh ur right about his memories smanta epic fail

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(You realize this meme is gonna get stale when the anime hits)

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in 8 years?

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i mean...

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Sure.

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8 haha because it's the part number

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8 is a tad bit generous though

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oh no i was being super serious

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that's a funny coincidence though

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More like 10 years

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10? Nah, I don't see it being that long.

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Sbr and jjl are pretty long

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No

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Less than 8 I dare say

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Bruh

fallen trellis
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Bold of DP to make the anime before the manga is over

minor ore
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Hmm..

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how long is the average length between parts? like a year and some right?

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That's how hellsing was made @fallen trellis

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it was a year and 10 months iirc for p4 to p5

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DIU was 2 years right

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oh

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Yeah around 2 years between parts

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Hellsing's anime finished before the manga, they just made up their own story as they went on

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so 2 years till part 6, a year airtime, 2 years till 7, a year airtime estimated, 2 years till 8

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And bit less than a year for all episodes to be released

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maybe just one year for part 6

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So to be generous part 8 can already start airing in 6 years if not less

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8 is definitely a reasonable estimate but i would say 7 is probably a safe bet

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More like 1 year till part 6, 1 year airtime
1.5 years till 7, 2 year airtime
1.5 years till 8, 2 year airtime

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why 1 year till part 6?

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yeah the part 5 wait was abnormally long, right?

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No the airtime isn't that long

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That's how long they waited between 3, 4 and 5

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Iirc

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I honestly don't believe Part 7 will be two years

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20 of the chapters are the average WSJ length

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I dunno man, one chapter was 90 pages

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part 4 to 5- dec '16 to oct '18

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Or something

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yeah that's 10 minutes of an episode

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3 to 4 jun '15 to dec 16

fallen trellis
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How long is SBR in comparison to SDC?
I always hear people saying that 7 will have two seasons but it didn't seem that long when I was reading it

minor ore
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I think they could pull off sbr in 48 eps

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Well sdc anime was too long

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All I know is

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JoJolion gets two seasons

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2 seasons is stupid ngl

fallen trellis
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Why

minor ore
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For sbr

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but it's the only way

fallen trellis
#

For JJL I mean
It doesn't seem like it needs 2 seasons

minor ore
#

It doesn't have a good break point

#

nah they'll just black clover it

#

they would def have to cut shit out if they didnt make jjl 2 seasons

#

For jojolion there's a clear 2 different halves, for sbr it's just one big journey

#

2 seasons for jojolion, one big one for sbr

#

couldnt you halve it at sandman/ringo?

#

halve it at gyro's death DIOlaugh

#

Eh, it didn't feel really like a different half started

#

Isn't there an episode limit for seasons or smth

#

alternate ending where diego shoots lucy dead

#

It really doesn't but better than nothing. theres at least pretty big changes for characters in those arcs

#

alternate ending where johnny actually beats diego trishcry

#

We can all agree jojolion is gonna get a second season right after damo

#

I don't think that there feeling like a halfway point was taken into consideration by DP when halving SDC, right?

#

It was more about the production

#

100% @minor ore

#

yeah that's facts

#

jojolion will have many more chapters

#

unfortunately

#

Chapter 69

#

jojolion might reach chapter 100

#

oh no

#

i would be very surprised if it didnt

#

Wasn't chapter 69 the one where poor tom was eating ass?

#

It will def go over 100

#

Did araki do a 69 joke?

#

poor tom must be the ugliest villain to date

#

he is seriously gross

#

Yeah

fallen trellis
#

Bruh Poor Tom was eating 🅿ussy smh

pallid crest
#

^

#

poor tom is hot

minor ore
#

He gets more pussy than josuke

#

josuke is a true love kinda guy like josuke 4 though

#

cuz we all know karera was tryna go to his place so she could smash

pallid crest
#

wrong josuke u archfiends

minor ore
#

did i stutter diego pfp?

pallid crest
#

stop flexing nitro

minor ore
#

Thought it was a kira pfp tbh

pallid crest
#

dont remind me im poor

minor ore
pallid crest
#

creeper

minor ore
#

Y'all ever just 4head

#

i skipped part 6 because it was bullshit

pallid crest
#

sin

minor ore
#

giorno should've been there

#

if that's sin then im a sinner

pallid crest
#

giorno sucks

minor ore
#

Sinus

#

lol

pallid crest
#

infection

minor ore
#

Sin π

fallen trellis
#

This comment was made by Abbachio gsng

minor ore
#

Quick what's sin π/2

pallid crest
#

abbachio gang more like all of part 5 gang is cool

#

except giorno

minor ore
#

abbachio is my least favorite of the bunch sorry

#

i skipped part 3 too

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !

minor ore
#

Rip

#

abbachio just joshu but not funny

#

nah im joking

#

I wanted to skip 7 so bad

#

I watched DIO's World and that's it

#

cuz everything else was inconsecquential

#

I will kill you

fallen trellis
#

Degeneracy

pallid crest
#

part 3 be like

minor ore
#

Not joking, part 7 was overhyped as fuck and i got disappointed

pallid crest
#

Plot

#

i like it

#

alot

minor ore
#

i watched the first few episodes, polnareff's intro, then skipped to cream and DIO's World

pallid crest
#

say sike right now

minor ore
#

that works

#

dang how do you dislike part 7 thats sacrilege

pallid crest
#

part 3 is 3/4 filler

fallen trellis
#

What the hell

pallid crest
#

theres no plot

#

besides

#

dio bad

minor ore
#

I peaked a bit at part 8's first chapter and that made me all excited to crawl through 7 to get to it

fallen trellis
#

So the only time you saw Iggy was in his death scene

#

Jfc

pallid crest
#

iggeeeee

minor ore
#

bruh johnny was fookin cursed

#

you hate to see his death in jojolion

#

tuff

pallid crest
#

a fucking rock

minor ore
#

how did the world diego have a better death than johnny

#

after being introduced one chapter ago

#

tuff

#

Johnny death is good

#

lies

fallen trellis
#

Johnny got SHIIIIIIIZAAAAAAAAAAd for no reason

#

Where did the rock even come from

minor ore
#

He would have died anyways due to ilness

#

what

pallid crest
#

jesus decided he didnt like him walking

fallen trellis
#

I would have preferred that

minor ore
#

He transferred illness to himself

#

With tusk act 4

fallen trellis
#

"He would later die of a cold" vibes

minor ore
#

My theory is that

#

when the ball hits the net... who can say which side it will land on

#

the plant HAD A STAND

#

Les Fueililieeils

#

Or something like that

#

Les Feuilles

fallen trellis
#

Autumn Leaves best stand

#

Basically au King Crimson

minor ore
#

kinda

pallid crest
#

less filling

minor ore
#

hehe

#

Soft and Wet might be as hax as GER by the end of JoJolion

#

I just wonder how he'll get the power up

#

will he even get a powerup?

#

or will Araki finally let Josuke use his stand nice

#

We need more stand rushes using legs like dio in part 3

fallen trellis
#

Requiem Rokakaka

minor ore
#

S and W has an A in development

#

so I'd say he might get power up

#

Kiss also had A in development

#

s&w act 2

#

ahh i wouldnt rely on stand stats all that much

fallen trellis
#

I don't think S and W will get a powerup
This is an even-numbered part

minor ore
#

every JoJo with an A in development excluding Jolyne got a power up

#

just saying bros

#

Honestly so much can be done with its current ability it's really underused

#

i disagree he gets a ton of mileage out of the bubbles themselves

#

It doesn't really need a powerup, if only the ability was used more often

#

and with some more creativity

#

poor tom bubble in a bubble, bubble shields, bubble as a safety net, bubble to hold flames and shoot debris etc etc

#

his bubble will steal time

#

bubble to steal oxygen from someones body

pallid crest
#

steal fucking um

#

existence

minor ore
#

That was pretty early

#

Steal virginity

heavy grove
#

Bubble makes a new universe reset

minor ore
#

tooru already did that Gagi

pallid crest
#

how the fuck did the woman not die by losing the water in her body

minor ore
#

I think he only stolen enough to make her thirsty

#

how the fuck did ____ not die by ____ < most of jojos

#

STANDO POWA

fallen trellis
#

Josuke should steal plot armor from main villain, killing them instantly kiranutt

hybrid pawn
#

Hey fuckers

#

Chapter 62 =dead island 2

heavy grove
#

Josuke could literally catch the head doctor by stealing his friction and making him run into something

minor ore
#

josuke needs to start stealing stands

heavy grove
#

White snake part 2

hybrid pawn
#

Remember when he stole eye sight

#

Until he just doesn't

heavy grove
#

He doesnt steal anything anymore

minor ore
#

Yep

heavy grove
#

Araki just forgot

hybrid pawn
#

No dignity

minor ore
#

Wack.

#

he can still steal eyesight but only to joshu. thats how it works i asked araki personally

hybrid pawn
#

Yes

minor ore
#

josuke been kinda lame these past few chapters

#

he needa start doing stuff again

heavy grove
#

Yeah

minor ore
#

he forgot how to use his stand for good

#

hes just been kinda out of focus due to wu tomoki and the jobin arc

heavy grove
#

No he just forgot how to use his stand

minor ore
#

hope to see some good josuke action in this next chapter

#

same

#

vs jobin

#

hopefully

#

When was plundering used the last time

#

damo tamaki fight

#

literally

heavy grove
#

I want to see more of the josuke and yasuho romance

minor ore
#

Damn

heavy grove
#

And maybe something with tooru

minor ore
#

sad

#

jobin heats up josuke's body but he diverts the heat with a bubble to his teeth and the gap in his teeth is fixed like electro in the amazing spider-man 2

#

honestly though plundering wouldnt come that in handy for most of his fights, at least what weve seen it do besides eyesight stealing

hybrid pawn
#

Damn I should leave or else I'm gona get spoiled

minor ore
#

friction and sound stealing wouldnt have helped all that much

#

nor light stealing

heavy grove
#

Friction could help somewhat

minor ore
#

water stealing

heavy grove
#

Like with catching the head doctor

minor ore
#

There are definitely many possible ways to use it

#

hed just friction himself lol

#

imagine if he makes you lose all the water in your body

#

you're dead

#

it works in ojiro fight because he already has no body control

#

then he stelas your eyesight

#

and your sense of sound

heavy grove
#

When was the last time Paisley park used its ability to help yasuho out of situations

#

Like with the banana peel or whatever

minor ore
#

she hasnt had her phone in a while lmao

#

she couldve used it for wo tomoki but he crushed it

heavy grove
#

Damn

inner gust
#

Josuke still steals things

#

he stole virus's to save yukako and cement

#

less abstract stuff though yeah tbh

minor ore
#

Yukako?

#

Oh you mean with brainstorm

#

The only recent uses are more like containing something in the bubbles not really plunder

#

Which is disappointing

fallen trellis
#

Josuk8 is a fusion between Josuk4 and Kira joshu
Yasuho is a fusion between Koichi and Yukako joshunut

minor ore
#

And the plundering ability is stealing aspects or properties of something which hasn't been used since vitamin c

hazy crystal
#

karera ceases to exist

#

😔

proper ether
#

thanos is canon to jojolion and nobody mentions them getting dusted because of copyright laws

spare vessel
#

why cant josuke just steal your iron with his plundering ability and fashion it into weapons

ocean mirage
#

jobin vs. gappy would be fun

#

right guys?

sharp elm
#

”You don’t go showing other people your asshole. Stands are the same way.” I am rofling at this line

ocean mirage
#

did he say that

inner yew
#

Norisuke did.

ocean mirage
#

i thought he just said something about porn

inner yew
#

Honestly it's a good metaphor.

sharp elm
#

That too

inner yew
#

It's like everyone knows they exist, but we don't need to see them.

ocean mirage
#

he did show josuke his stand though

inner yew
#

out of necessity

ocean mirage
#

and then king nothing stuck to jobin's handkerchief

#

by the way king nothing doesn't fight i'd love to see it fight

inner yew
#

I think he'd be screwed

#

it's like asking Tonio to fight

ocean mirage
#

I still want to see it try

#

maybe if norisuke got backed up into a corner or something like that

inner yew
#

well, he has three in story days to do so before... y'know

ocean mirage
#

he's dead rip

ornate carbon
#

Just so you know, the head doctor is 89 years old

inner yew
#

no way

ornate carbon
#

I know right, it's insane. How does he move that fast when his age is that of 89?

inner yew
#

I can almost guarantee that the thing they’re chasing is not Satoru Akefu

minor ore
#

What if "Akefu" isn't Akefu

#

Like, the entity that works for the benefit of the rock humans is a transferable stand like D4C

#

But it controls its user

inner yew
#

It’s easier for me to believe the “89 year old” is really just a false identity, and Tooru is the head doctor

minor ore
#

Yeah but what if it goes even deeper than that

inner yew
#

But Tooru being a rock human is... unlikely given that he dated Yasuho

minor ore
#

well

inner yew
#

they DID break up... but it didn’t end in murder

#

Like the notes suggested

minor ore
#

Where does it say that they always end up in murder

#

That's why I think it's some entity that was originally a rock human trying to research the rokakaka

inner yew
#

Doesn’t say always but it says usually or something

minor ore
#

Well still possible then

inner yew
#

On the page describing Rock Human x Human relationships.

#

Yeah it’s possible

minor ore
#

I'd say he'd fit

#

With his design

inner yew
#

He also might’ve broken up with her because he needed to hibernate

#

HOWEVER

minor ore
#

Something Diavolo-Carnesque

inner yew
#

if they dated in high school, I would find it unlikely a rock human would even attend high school

#

Since given their sleep habits, regularly attending something isn’t good for them

minor ore
#

were they in the same school?

inner yew
#

Hm, another good question.

#

Not sure.

minor ore
#

Well, they were together for a year before breaking up so Tooru can't be a rock human

#

Because they can't go longer than 8 months before hibernating IIRC

inner yew
#

I wonder if he’s at least on Team Rock Human then

#

Like if he’s working FOR the doctor

minor ore
#

most likely at least team rock human

#

i doubt were getting independent parties this late in the game

inner yew
#

Also if Akefu is a stand user why could he just teleport around when he wants to

#

Why couldn’t*

#

Like Rai shouldn’t be surprised he can escape them so much

minor ore
#

Maybe he's like Doppio where he doesn't know he's being used

inner yew
#

Hm, could be.

minor ore
#

My guess is that there was only 1 stand attacking them while pursuing the head doctor... but 2 abilities

#

Maybe Araki will pull-up a Vitamin C arc but for Akefu

#

Instead of getting the protagonist backstory mid-fight, wr get akefu's

#

Something tying up Holly, Tooru, maybe the baby that washed up on the shore

violet coral
inner yew
#

FLASHBACK MAN

minor ore
#

Flashback Man will return.

#

Next up:
Kyo's Return (1)
Kyo's Return (2)
Karera is back shitheads

violet coral
#

Karera shows up just to straight up die to jo🅱in

lost slate
#

"Speed King has already touched that hair"

violet coral
#

SPEED KING THIRD ATTACK BITES THE HEAT

proud stag
#

more like SPEED KING THIRD MOVE HIGHWAY STAR

minor ore
#

Karera is also after the fruit, if araki didn't have anything planned for her then she could have joined ojiro to die with him

#

So she has to show up... right KakyoinSad ?

violet coral
#

well.....stand users in part 8 have a tendency to show up and never appear again

minor ore
#

... maybe because they get killed?

#

Stand users in JoJo have a tendency to show up and never appear again

lost slate
#

The thing with part 8 stands is that they're so situational that it's hard for them to come back

minor ore
#

But the most situational stand ever reappeared so why shouldn't more reappear? The part isn't over yet

proud stag
#

I mean first
They need to be alive joshu

minor ore
#

Only reason Ojirou came back was because his ability didn’t need to be explained

proud stag
#

So let's wait for the living ones to surface again

minor ore
#

My bet is that Kyo's next, then Karera

#

Karera will be the aftermath fight, mark my words

inner yew
#

I really hope the finale is some Civil War shit where the whole family has to choose between Josuke and Joubin’s team

proud stag
#

I could easily believe that Karera won't make any impact on the story lol

inner yew
#

Gappy/Yasuho/Rai/Kyo/Karera vs. Joubin/Tsurugi/Mistuba/Kaato/Joshu

#

Not sure where Haato stands

#

Also I could Mistuba not taking her husbands side.

minor ore
#

You will be proven wrong because just like Johnny got the holy corpse taken from his hands in the last minute, Karera will steal the rokakaka just before gappy gets it

inner yew
#

Why the hell does she need it

minor ore
#

money

#

Also Araki wanting to make a paralel to part 7's ending will be stronger than any need for explanation

#

He already admited he prefers entertainment over consistency so

inner yew
#

Does that mean Holly’s gonna die?

#

Cuz the kid Gyro tried to save died too

minor ore
#

Nah, Karera will give the rokakaka to gappy

#

She will steal it for the rest to think she got away with it, but then will give it to gappy

#

So he will heal Holly, dying in the progress, but no one in the higashikata family/yasuho will know what happened to him

#

But that's just a theory, a shitty theory

violet coral
#

A GAME THEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING

#

i'll leave now

minor ore
minor ore
#

I hope Josuke doesn't die sacrificing himself

#

that would suck.

hidden smelt
#

And Joshu swoops in to "comfort" yasuho

minor ore
#

If Josuke dies I'll just simultaneously whip and nae nae

hidden smelt
#

Ima milly rock on Josukes grave

hardy trench
#

he'll be fine bruh

#

araki only killed four jojos: jonathan, jotaro, jolyne, and johnny

hidden smelt
#

That's half the jojos

heavy grove
#

Yeah

hidden smelt
#

Bruh moment

minor ore
#

If it's not gappy it's yasuho, and yasuho doesn't deserve to die*

heavy grove
#

I wonder what would happen if josuke fused with another person

hardy trench
#

nah man, yasuho is girl!koichi, and koichi lived

heavy grove
#

Since hes already fused before

minor ore
#

Fuck the gay couple, he already wants to die for his mother so who cares

hardy trench
#

anyways for part 8, we know norisuke is dead, and i think that kyo might die

minor ore
#

Inb4 next arc is Norisuke & Kyo vs Caato

#

Spoiler: caato won

hidden smelt
#

Maybe instead of Josuke dying gappy and josefumi split apart

minor ore
#

Kira*

hardy trench
#

real shit

minor ore
#

Also, that would still mean he dies

hardy trench
#

also i genuinely hope joshu dies, it would be so satisfying

hidden smelt
#

Woah Joshu is a god

minor ore
#

Kill Tooru and Joshu in the same arc Araki, and I'm making you a statue

hardy trench
#

fun fact: i knew a girl who only liked one jojo character: it was joshu

minor ore
#

I'll hands free carve Araki's face into the statue of liberty

#

That's every girl

hardy trench
#

she hated every girl character and barely tolerated the guys, but joshu, she flat out worshipped

hidden smelt
#

What female characters have died in JoJo?

#

Hot pants

minor ore
#

Erina

hardy trench
#

Aya Tsuji

minor ore
#

Reimi

hardy trench
#

Donatella Una

minor ore
#

Makorin

hidden smelt
#

That girl in the first page of phantom blood

knotty mango
#

jolyne

#

annusui

#

hermes

hardy trench
#

speedwagon

knotty mango
#

foo fighters

minor ore
#

foo figthers didn't have a gender tho

hidden smelt
#

F.F is plankton

hardy trench
#

foo fighters identifies as dumbass

minor ore
#

Scolippi's gf i think?

#

Did she die

#

yes

hardy trench
#

oh and trish's mom donatella

minor ore
#

That girl from boom boom's family

hardy trench
#

what girl lol

hidden smelt
#

Valentine's wife

minor ore
#

In part 7, those fuckers at the start that had the same stand and was magentic related

hardy trench
#

also if gappy and yasuho had a kid, would the sperm come from josefumi's or kira's nuts

minor ore
#

Yes

hidden smelt
#

Both

minor ore
#

All boom boom were males

hidden smelt
#

One was a girl

minor ore
#

Hmmm wasn't one a girl?

#

Nope

#

Oh, curious

hidden smelt
#

There was a daughter

hardy trench
#

nah that was a dude that looked like a girl

minor ore
hardy trench
#

then again i dont think he looks THAT girly

minor ore
#

k araki

#

Doesn't rohan's manager die in the spin offs?

#

I guess that counts too

#

No

#

she doesn't

#

Hm then that's all

hardy trench
#

i still think kyo's next on the chopping block

minor ore
#

just found out mrs robinson was a guy

#

Transgender

#

If Kyo dies I'm rioting

hardy trench
#

i mean she was suspiciously cut out of the family photo

minor ore
#

If she dies against Caato in an awesome fight then ok

#

If Jobin just founds out about her and kills her i'm not ok

#

Because Jobin is 100% going to do research on Holly, so he'll know that she has a daughter

hardy trench
#

does holly even have a stand though

hidden smelt
#

Caatos stand doesn't look fighting based like daiyas

minor ore
#

Who cares? Ojiro flat out said her and kira's name while taking the rokakaka

hardy trench
#

I think Caato's stand should be named Queen of the Stone Age

minor ore
#

Why not walking on sunshine?

hidden smelt
#

That's a good one

hardy trench
#

But like, the royalty theme (most of the Higashikatas have King in the name, Kira is Killer Queen, Yasuho and Gappy's are named after Prince)

minor ore
#

Hato is the eldest daughter and her stand is Walking Heart

hardy trench
#

WalKING Heart

minor ore
#

Wouldn't it make sense for her to have taken inspiration in her mother's stand for it?

hardy trench
#

🤔

minor ore
#

Mommy has walkin on sunshine? Then mine is Walking Heart!

#

While smol joshu is in the background eating dirt

hardy trench
#

Oh, right, walKING on sunshine, lol

minor ore
hidden smelt
#

March of the black queen

hardy trench
#

I heard that Satoru's stand might be named The Wonder of You

minor ore
#

His chapters were renamed that way so it probably is

#

Like Ticket to Ride's name only appeared in the tittles

hidden smelt
#

I think the stand can only attack when you're not facing it

hardy trench
#

real shit

#

Now I'm wondering if Tooru has his own stand or nah

minor ore
#

My guess is that it attacks everyone who tries to approach akefu, plain and simple explanation

minor ore
#

Hmmm... the chapters were indeed renamed The Wonder Of You (The Miracle of Your Love)

#

So maybe Araki flat out spoiled both of his stands

hardy trench
#

real shit

#

Plus Tooru's weird shit involving Yasuho

hidden smelt
#

Is there a stand that can implant memories in you?

hardy trench
#

Probably not

#

yet

hidden smelt
#

Maybe that's toorus stand and he never knew yasuho

hardy trench
#

Thats some real shit

#

I genuinely hope Araki doesn't make Tooru/Yasuho canon

hidden smelt
#

Tooru is a beta

#

The closest thing to memory manipulation is probably jailhouse lock so toorus stand will probably be memory changing

minor ore
#

Whitesnake could take out your memories

#

California King Bed too

hoary sun
#

Tooru has letters on his clothes

hidden smelt
#

White snake was more taking out anything but ckb is a good point

hoary ginkgo
#

Hey is there a pdf of part 8 anywhere I can download to my phone?

hidden smelt
#

An S and a F are on his belt

hardy trench
#

Super Freak?

minor ore
hidden smelt
#

SUPERFLY 2.0

#

He also has stuffed animals on his shoulders spirals in his hair and vines his pants

hardy trench
#

what if tooru was a furry

minor ore
#

Super Furry

#

His stand is his fursona

#

As an opressed minority, he joined the rock humans

hardy trench
#

is he also a gamer 😂

bleak cave
#

Tooru is going to be AU Kakyoin

violet coral
#

will he rise up to become the biggest gamer ever?

hardy trench
#

nah, mitsuba is au kakyoin

minor ore
#

rero rero rero rero

hoary sun
#

Ok so do you guys say dolo-me-tay or dolo-myte

minor ore
#

Do lo me te

hoary sun
#

Oh. Wait, I’m bad at phonetics. Yeah, that’s what i meant by the first one

#

That’s how i say it

#

OH SHIT what if they use blue hawaii to find the head doctor

minor ore
#

They need something from him i think

#

or at least a photo to show to dolomite

hardy trench
#

Doll-o-meat-e

hoary sun
#

That would be smart

#

Dolomite returns part 1

minor ore
#

Where's the "diego returns" arc at

hoary sun
#

I’m still invested in the theory that josefumi is a zepelli

waxen token
#

but he's not Italian

hoary sun
#

Johnny wasn’t Japanese

#

And yet we have kira

hidden smelt
#

His wife was japanese

hoary sun
#

Exactly

#

A zeppeli followed johnny to japan

minor ore
#

But he has the joestar birthmark

hidden smelt
#

Bruh gyro clearly smashed Johnny resulting in pregnancy

hoary sun
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Josefumi or kira

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Kira has the birthmark bc he’s johnny’s descendant, yeah?

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Doesn’t matter who josefumi is

grizzled pilot
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josefumi and kira both had the birthmark

hardy trench
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the jjl family tree is wild

hoary sun
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Oh sht

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Shit

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Okay then nevermind

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Would love for Holy to show up again. Have some... characterization. Agency.

minor ore
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I think araki's struggle is that shes nearly comatose at the moment, and josuke and the gang have been in the thick of things pretty much nonstop ever since dolomiti

hoary sun
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Yeah i mean i get why

minor ore
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theres definitely a ton of characters that desperately need some love right now

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Wait.

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Are Josefumi and Kira related?

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sure seems like it

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theres still a lot we don't know about josefumi and his life before the fusion, so im guessing araki has some big plans for his backstory

hoary sun
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it feels like we're getting close to the end, unless something else happens after the harvest of rokakaka

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so there's not too much time left for backstory and things

heavy grove
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What if the man in josukes flashbacks is the main villain MenacingThink

hoary sun
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i don't care who he is as long as we find out

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he could be josefumi's father for all i care

minor ore
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inb4 in the end Josuke dies

minor ore
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He will

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He'll use the fruit to combine with holly

minor ore
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8 more chapters and JoJolion surpasses Steel Ball Run as the largest JoJo part

proper ether
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seeing as we still dont know who the main villain will be then it's garunteed to be longest part

grizzled pilot
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six chapters until a rock falls on gappy's head and he dies lets go

minor ore
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#TeamTooru

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#TeamJoshu

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let's go joshu

minor ore
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Based Joshu would never hurt josuke out of spite

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I rather think that Mamezuku is a zeppeli

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Mamezuku
Mamazuku

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Mamamia

supple totem
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CEAAAAAZAAAAAAARRR

minor ore
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MAMEZUKU SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

supple totem
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GYYYROOOOOOOOOO

minor ore
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Jobin gang.

manic anvil
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Makorin

minor ore
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is dead

minor ore
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can't deny that

burnt pagoda
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1 MORE CHAPTER TILL JOSHU KILLS HEAD DOUCTOR CURES TSURUGI AND HOLLY AND BONES YASUOH

long wasp
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Joshu is the true savior of JoJolion

minor ore
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yes

violet coral
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Joshu evolves the nut

hoary sun
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I wonder if the Japanese audience has the same sorts of theories that we have

proud stag
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what theories do we have?

verbal lily
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Im not caught up to speed but jobin smells like an antagonist

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But he doesnt mess with time so it couldnt be

violet coral
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I wouldn't say Jobin as of right now is an antagonist, but he is more villainous in his motives than most of the enemy stand users