#jojolion | JoJo's Bizarre Adventure | Page 84

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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the card stand is really sending out some d4c vibes if you ask me

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Is the new chap out

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Yeah

lilac pumice Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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ye

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Is it good

lilac pumice Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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https://mangadex.org/chapter/665696/1

MangaDex

Vol. 22 Ch. 88 (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 8 - JoJolion) - MangaDex

Eighth story arc of JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken series.

Following the Great East Japan earthquake, Morioh has been stricken by vast earthen protrusions known by the locals as Wall Eyes. Despite investigation, professional estimations are left empty. Meanwhile, the young girl Ya...

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Yes

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Yes

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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the new chap as in oujiro part 3 or after that

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Thx

lilac pumice Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Its great

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Question for everyone here

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Yasuho or kyo?

austere minnow Jul 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Yasuho

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Yasuho

austere minnow Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I used to be a Kyo preferring man

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but I became enlightened

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yasuho simply because paisley park

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I'd like kyo more if she was explored more

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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i just think killing people with heels is so cool

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Paisley Park is a phenomenal stand

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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paisley park is like a chinese hacker

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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One of the best jjl stands

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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aside from the "you have two options" thing

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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also, mina wasn't responding after the gate incident

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like she got really fucked up

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so i think that was probably akefu's stand

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Did she die?

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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that's not clear

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Or just heavily injured

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Oh

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Akefu is overall a weird character, hopefully next chapter is all about him given its 89, that's too good of an opportunity to pass up

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Yeah

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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I think she got light injuries

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not sure

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:15 PM

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i think

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the head mistress says it was really bad, but then says that she only had light scratches

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Holy shit joubin is ruthless

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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anything for tsurugi I guess

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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He's a good father

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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He reminds me of johnny

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In this chap

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Jobin has a super violent stand

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Now that we know its actual ability

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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super violent, super ugly

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I like its design

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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How does it work through phones though?

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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It reflects his personality, he's very handsome and charmimng on the outside, but sinister and ruthless deep inside

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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It stores heat in objects it touches

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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speed king has already touched that phone

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Ooh

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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that's literally how it works

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Literally killer queen with heat

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:19 PM

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except better because apparently he can use it multiple timss

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for just one touch

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and he has some incredible precision

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:19 PM

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In a way the heat is better than the bombs, since it just creeps up into you right away instead of an explosion that can potentially not fully hit you

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:19 PM

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How hot does it go at maximum?

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Nobody knows

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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there's no way this is akefu's stand

📎 crack.PNG

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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enough to set wood on fire

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I thought I saw somewhere that it said at least 200 degrees

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At most*

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Double boiling

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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during the ozone baby attack

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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It might be his damage enhancement @hoary sun

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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he did a chemical reaction to create oxygen

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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maybe, but they weren't following akefu anymore

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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so around 180º Celsius

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at least

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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but

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if his ability is only to lock heat

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like to stop it from dispersing or saving the heat energy in some other way

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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It's like the opposite of white album

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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there's no way it could get hot so fast

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 PM

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a phone is actually really good for speed king, since phones consistently create heat

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Speed king is a suit stand

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I would imagine it accelerates the process

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 PM

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he has to wait till the heat flows at its natural place to the spot

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that's what I think too

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 PM

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White Album defies physics as well, it can cool stuff down in a ludicrously small amount of time

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I also think that if someone were to touch such a spot without it activating

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it would feel incredibly cold since no heat escapes

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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gently weeps is a special ability, though

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Bro what would happen if white album and speed king collided

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Would it just be room temp

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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that would explain why its so fast

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yes

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definitely

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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White album would win

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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White Album would probably win

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I want a speed king vs white album fight now

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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There would be no heat to store

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Plus he has ice skates

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So automatic win

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Cold is lack of heat, so Speed King has nothing to work with

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Speed king can also control heat short range

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As seen in the beetle fight

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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speed king wont work in space

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I guess that's true

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 PM

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yeah white album is far more active than speed king

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 PM

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but white albume cant do the stand punch thing

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while yelling SPEEEY

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Speed king could win with enough prep time

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I think

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 PM

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yeah

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get a rock

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use it

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Can speed king just booby trap his entire house

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Also, I love the fact that the "heat bombs" leave behing a Speed King shaped blister on Oujirou's skin, a very nice touch

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 PM

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throw rock at white album

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Tsurugis stand is insane too

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Yeah

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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It got better

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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now that I think of it, is speed king just kraft work on a smaller scale?

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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He showed himself dying somehow

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So I don’t really know what paper moon king is capable of at this point

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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He changed ojiros perception of them

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 PM

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kraft work freezes kinetic energy and all that

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and can store kinetic energy

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 PM

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It doesnt really store it

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It just kinda builds it up

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 PM

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heat is just kinetic energy on a really small level

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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It only builds it up because he taps the bullets

kind owlBOT Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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@spiral hemlock, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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When they are suspended

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Also how did the bullets move with the truck??

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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He just gets rid of all kinetic energy

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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he can affix it I guess

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Who knows

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It just works

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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also wait

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Kraftwerk kinda stops the flow of time for a certain object, if it just froze the kinectic energy it would still fall due to gravity

kind owlBOT Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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@burnt kite, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Relativity

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If it fell it would have kinetic energy

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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couldn't he just freeze the bullets in midair unrelated to the truck

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and let them hit mista

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Kraftwerk doesnt allow bullets to gain kinetic energy like that

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Heat is what happens when molecules vibrate right

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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He can only store it

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Until he deactivates it

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So they can’t fall

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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its what happens when molecules fly around

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Gravity and the space around the objects don't influence the objects touched by Kraftwerk, so it being equal to Speed King is just false

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Jojolion stand abilities are just complicated

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Or just stand abilities in general

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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well it was an idea I guess

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Especially in later parts

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Araki’s done literally everything obvious by this point

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:33 PM

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The closest comparison is killer queen

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I wonder if jobin took the money back oujiro stole from him

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Man makorin getting her face melted is gonna be brutal in the anime

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Oh damn yeah

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:34 PM

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He prevents objects from expending kinetic energy

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So they can’t fall

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Lots of part 7 and 8 scenes are gonna be super violent

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:34 PM

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if josuke is going to get a new stand/power i hope it's called ''All star''

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i want to see a stand called allstar

pastel adder Jul 21, 2019, 9:34 PM

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blue hawaii arc will be fucking brutal

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:35 PM

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ah yes

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the first kid

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who walked against a pole and just got hurt by that

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:35 PM

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walk straight virus

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:35 PM

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...i need to reread jojolion for real

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:35 PM

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do it

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:35 PM

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The end of blue hawaii was where i finally got caught yp

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I'm rereading SBR and I'm gonna reread jjl after

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I read sbr like 5 times

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I'll probably understand things a lot more then

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I hope someone in part 8 uses spin

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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There are so many good arcs in the beginning of jjl

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Even though I know they won’t

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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josuke does

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the hair rai caught

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Josuke uses spin?

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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when he makes his bubbles he spins his hair

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very fast

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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after the brain storm fight rai caught a bubble from s&e

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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After rereading the head doctor chase, though, I’m back to the theory that tooru’s stand is damage enhancement, and akefu’s stand is obstacles

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And they work in tandem

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Now that I think about it, the concept of acummulating kinectic energy on an object with none to begin with makes no sense, the moment any sort of energy is applied, the object won't be "frozen" anymore

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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It’s stored as potential energy then released

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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How did that guys neck brake tho?

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Damage enhancement

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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tooru's stand made it worse

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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I guess

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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being frozen in time

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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that's my theory anyways

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because the head doctor was already on the bus and driving away

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and tooru even says he saw it happen

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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its like time stop is used on the object

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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i can def see damage enhancement. But how the HD is able to be in the higashkata yard and then just dissapear

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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and all that happened during the freeze is just applied all at once

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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i believe he makes wormholes

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to fast travel

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like portals

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Jjl timeline has been super confusing lately

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With the rokakaka harvest countdown

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Still, the potencial energy would not remain potential unless its constantly draining away the kinectic energy, which in turn would leave no energy left stored

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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it's like july 15th but worse

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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potencial energy is gravity right?

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:41 PM

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imagine that the energy that is applied gets frozen too

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potential is height

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:41 PM

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height?

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:41 PM

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The object are mid-air too, so it makes even less sense

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:41 PM

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So in short kraftwerk

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Just works

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Kraftwerk really only makes sense if it stops the flow of time for certain objects, not freezing the kinectic energy

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Like in Breath of the Wild

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Its like that one ability from the re:zero light novel

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Of freezing an objects time

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:42 PM

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but then, how can he affix the bullet to the truck?

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:42 PM

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It just works

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:43 PM

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it just works

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Truly it just works

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Still a cool stand, but it's a headache

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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jojo physics really do be like dat sometimes

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I like how we went from jojolion to just kaftwerk

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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it just kraft works

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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back to jojolion. Fav fight in jojolion?

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Walking heart

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Born this way

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Killer queen vs vitamin c

pastel adder Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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vitamin c in general

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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doobie wah

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Josuke literally risks his life just to ask if he can kill her boyfriend

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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dang. mixed

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Reminded me of giorno

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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i giorno giovanna

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Not only does born this way have 2nd best girl, it has an amazing stand and plot importance

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:45 PM

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have dream

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a dream*

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Female josuke

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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paisley park helping josuke

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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jotaro**

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Brainstorm was kinda neat, but best for me was Doctor Wu

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Theory; everyone in jojolion is josuke

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:46 PM

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mixed opinions

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nise

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Kyo got jotaros design and Kira got his attitude and personality

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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a r e y o u a m a n o f t h e l a n d o r a r e y o u a m a n o f t h e s e a

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Jaquzzi

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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😡

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:48 PM

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bites of fingers

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:48 PM

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GappyNut

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:49 PM

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fhak;sfhsdahf LOOK at what's written under the text box on the right i didn't notice that before

📎 savage_araki.PNG

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 9:49 PM

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what

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Same oujiro

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Same

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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100% trash?

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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yeah

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i think araki roasted his own character

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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wait

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ojiro has his fingers

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in that image ojiro has his fingers

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:50 PM

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They're prosthetics

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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fuk i forgot

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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His girlfriend steps on them and they come off

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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ok im

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im thinking that maybe tsurugi is akefu

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:52 PM

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It has been discussed many times

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trust me

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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no i know

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Probably not, since Wu knows he exists, and it would be pretty weird that the mastermind behing the Rokakaka gang is just an illusion

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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i'm just subscribing to the theory

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:54 PM

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but it is strange that the rockhuman says that it's tsurugi who makes the right actions

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like everybody is dumb

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execpt him

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https://gyazo.com/b82a299a948f5424ee4054a7aca3414d

Gyazo

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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This might be an an unpopular opinion, but Wu didn't deserve to die, he was literally saving the lifes of the people who ate the Rokakaka

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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he didn't stop mitsuba's baby from being miscarried

kind owlBOT Jul 21, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@hoary sun, Your Stand Power is now level 13 !

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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i guess he didn't deserve to die actually.

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but he kinda scammed mitsuba alot

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 9:57 PM

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and he was also trying to kill yashuo and mitsuba

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:58 PM

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While he was a shitty person, he was at least saving lifes and assuring people didn't die from the treatement

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 9:59 PM

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i guess

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Without him eating the fruit is pure luck

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You might just die and that's that

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:02 PM

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and he also used the rokakaka for models right?

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like models would buy the rokakaka to look better

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Tsurugi is just the head doctor

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No illusions

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Best reveal

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:05 PM

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89

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years

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old

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Tsurugi is an illusion

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Tsurugi is 89

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This isnt even a theory

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Its FACT

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:06 PM

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MenacingThink

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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is there any estimate on how long it'll take for this new volume to get colored?

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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when is the new ones even releasing?

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the ones after blue hawaii

hoary sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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it just started a new volume

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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oh

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idk ma

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i'm guessing about a two months

spiral hemlock Jul 21, 2019, 10:20 PM

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aaaaaaAaa

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He says that because tsurugi isn’t actively trying to get involved

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I think

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:26 PM

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So do y'all think it's likely that Satoru's stand will be called The Wonder of You, after the arc he debuted in?

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I hope so, it's a great name

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:28 PM

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does nobody want a stand with the name ''all star'' exept me?

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it's the shrek song

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the wonder of u is also a nice name

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 10:30 PM

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ninth jojo stand name revealed: all star

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:30 PM

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i would be more than happy

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:31 PM

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You never know with Araki, but there's such a huge backlog of good song references that I doubt Smash Mouth songs would ever be used

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:32 PM

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dude it's all star

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s h re k

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Though he did use Limp Bizkit, so it's possible

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:33 PM

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yey

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 10:36 PM

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he changed Going Underground to Born This Way so why not All Stars

burnt kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:37 PM

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He also changed Stairway to Heaven to Made in Heaven, never understood why though

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Both are great songs

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 10:46 PM

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i think it's because the name made in heaven is better than stairway to heaven

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it sounds a bit cooler with made in heaven

minor ore Jul 21, 2019, 11:12 PM

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made in heaven's lyrics fit better with the story

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Yo imagine if the head doctor is au old speedwagon

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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oh fuck

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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That would be so bizzare

proud stag Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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hmmm

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bizarre ?

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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They wouldn't stand a chance

proud stag Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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joshu

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it wouldn't be the real speedweed 😔

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he left us for good

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Speedweed with a stand

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Speedwagon was the only survivor of the reset

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:34 PM

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speedwagon made a machine that was able to take him to alternative universes

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Oh didnt you know that speedwagon resurected himself in 2001 in order to explain king crimson

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:34 PM

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it just works

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:35 PM

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📎 7758f10.png

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:35 PM

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f

heavy grove Jul 21, 2019, 11:35 PM

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📎 20190721_183534.jpg

kind sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Speaking of it just works stands

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I never fully understanded paisley park

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:39 PM

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as i see it rn , it has the ability to do everything machines can do

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exept like cars and planes

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it can do xray

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it can be a gps

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it do machine stuff

proper ether Jul 21, 2019, 11:46 PM

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basically a better hermit purple that doesnt conduct hamon

supple totem Jul 21, 2019, 11:51 PM

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yap

wind rose Jul 22, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Nut King Call sounds like a euphamism

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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for what?

kind sun Jul 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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There is nothing funnier

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Then seeing the theories about Ojiro from last 2 months

hoary sun Jul 22, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Lmao yeah

kind sun Jul 22, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Like lmao people wanted him to join the group and he received Shigechi treatment

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Speed king has already touched the money

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 12:11 AM

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but ojiro is a sociopath

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shigechi is just a kid

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KingCrimsonThink

supple totem Jul 22, 2019, 12:22 AM

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shi shi shi shi... Smugechi

gloomy quiver Jul 22, 2019, 12:45 AM

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jojolion Joestar best jojo

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 12:45 AM

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get outta here I heard you're still in part 4

void viper Jul 22, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Watch part 5 @gloomy quiver

gloomy quiver Jul 22, 2019, 12:46 AM

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I’m sorry I was told to send that

supple totem Jul 22, 2019, 12:48 AM

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dora

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the

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explora

spiral hemlock Jul 22, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Paisley park is busted

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It’s like GE but with electronics

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 3:42 AM

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its in fact not like ge with electronics

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what makes you say that?

tawny mist Jul 22, 2019, 3:49 AM

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its just "find me a useful thing"

fathom flume Jul 22, 2019, 4:51 AM

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I'm finally caught up and get to suffer with the everyone else KakyoinSad

kind owlBOT Jul 22, 2019, 4:51 AM

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@fathom flume, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 5:58 AM

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jobin would win against josuke because josuke cant use plunder on himself

kind owlBOT Jul 22, 2019, 5:58 AM

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@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:03 AM

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neat

sleek mason Jul 22, 2019, 6:26 AM

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what the hell is up with part 8

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on Dolomite's blue Lagoon

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also is it me or are there a lot of automatic tracking stands in this part

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:34 AM

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part 8 is trying to recreate a lot of part 4, and part 4 had highway star and sheer heart attack, both also automatic stands

sleek mason Jul 22, 2019, 6:39 AM

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True but so far there's Born this Way, Blue Hawaii, Doobie Wah!, I Am A Rock (in terms of automatic tracking ven though its technically close range), King Nothing, kinda Paisely Park too?

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Paisley Park is pretty much just "plot advancement" the stand though

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seems like automatic tracking stands are the thing of part 8

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:40 AM

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maybe arakis getting lazy

sleek mason Jul 22, 2019, 6:40 AM

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eh teh chase sequences are creative enough i'm not bored or anything, but it does seem interesting

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the autoamtic chase stands seem to result in the most brainy/logical fights too

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like black sabbath in part v which is still one of my favs, though thats in large part due to black sabbath having a bitching design

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:44 AM

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blue hawaii was like 8 chapters, essentially we had to wait 8 months for that arc

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:44 AM

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next chapter is cursed, chapter 89 in general was caeser's youth part 2, a chapter before he ended up dying i believe, chapter 89 of stardust crusaders was younger d'arby, which was happening while polnareff and iggy were suffering in the mansion and avdol was dead, chapter 89 of diamond is unbreakable is only shortly after shigechi's death, chapter 89 of vento aureo was only shortly after bucciatari's zombification, chapter 89 of SO was shortly before foo fighters and chapter 89 of SBR was FV's death

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so pray for both yasuho's and rai's soul

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and hope it's joshu

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:45 AM

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~~its gonna be rai~~

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:46 AM

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heaven

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:46 AM

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joshu is in no danger right now, why would he be dead

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:46 AM

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no clue

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akefu is going to donut rai

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or atleast kill rai

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akefu is main villain and i refuse to believe otherwise

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KonoDioDab

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:46 AM

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we see norisuke in a body bag tho, so its gotta be either rai or norisuke

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but then that means if norisuke dies next chapter we'll need a 3 day time skip, which cant happen because head doctor bullshit

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so its rai

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:50 AM

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i hope to god

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norisuke and rai

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i'm assuming norisuke is dead

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and rai is pretty cursed as a jobro

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if we see two deaths side by side

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i'm going to sunlight yellow overdrive thunder cross split attack cracker volley ora ora ora dorarara mudamudamuda araki

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:52 AM

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norisuke's dead or unconscious, but thats right before the rokakaka will be harvested, so probably in a few more chapters, however josuke yasuho and rai are chasing after the head doctor currently, so during the fight rai will probably die

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:52 AM

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or yasuho

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which will suck too

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:53 AM

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yasuho better not die she is one of the best characters

tawny sentinel Jul 22, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Yeah

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:54 AM

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who's betting araki is going to be making more donuts again instead of killing main character off in more unique fashions

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 6:55 AM

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it depends if the main villains stand is power-based really, cant donut people if you're not a hard hitter

sleek mason Jul 22, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Also is it me or is gappy one of the punchiest and most brutal jojos

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like even jotaro uses star platinum to do his punching

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yeah stands are you but still

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like there's a fair amount of fleshy fisticuffs in this part

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and gappy tends to immediately go for lethal takedowns too imo

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 7:24 AM

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dont forget shovel

sleek mason Jul 22, 2019, 7:26 AM

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yeah that too

proud stag Jul 22, 2019, 8:50 AM

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who needs a shovel if your stand can drive a car

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 8:51 AM

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who needs a car when your stand can use a gun

proud stag Jul 22, 2019, 8:51 AM

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who needs a stand with a gun if your stand IS A GUN

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ShigechiDab2

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 8:52 AM

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MistaSip

proud stag Jul 22, 2019, 8:52 AM

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you should've first talked about Wheel Of Fortune instead of Whitesnake

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 8:53 AM

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I couldnt think of a step up from that

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

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I have a feeling norisuke isn’t dead

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But someone has to die

fallen trellis Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 AM

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When the hell does SK use a car
I don't remember that panel at all

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 AM

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I bet it’s gonna be a fucked up kill, or tsurugi did it on accident

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That’s possible

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we'll see eventually

manic anvil Jul 22, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Speed king has already touched the car

plush jackal Jul 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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@steady jacinth think chapter 83

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Luckily yasuho probs wont die this part

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Since she’s the narrator

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Technically

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Mamezuku is gonna be dead by October’s chapter

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304831115712004096/542828844684673045/unknown.png

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Shovel time

plush jackal Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 AM

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mm yummy

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:49 AM

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well what else are you supposed to do when facing blue hawaii

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its not like you just can let it touch you

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If it touches you, you lose brain cels

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It basically vegetablizes you

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exactly

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but yeah he could have used other means to stop that woman

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like plunder the friction

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Can soft and wet steal people’s brains

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diver down can do that

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Should have just stole that ladies friction on the shoes

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She go spin

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Soft and wet steals virginities

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blue hawaii is an unavoidable stand over time

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Lowkey wanna see josuke x yasuho in a chapter

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Would be kinda cute

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Ngl

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But not super intense

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I mean thats already a thing

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None of that ahegaos stuff

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I’m talking about them fucking

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oh

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josepHHM

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Mamezuku fucking dies soon

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They should build his character a little

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well part 8 is made for adults but

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Maybe in the doctor arc

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rai is immortal

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Doubt

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his stand makes him durable af tbh

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Yasuho wont die

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I don’t think

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I HOPE she doesn't

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Since in the beginning she says “this is a story about breaking a curse”

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Maybe it will flash forward

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And she says that right as she’s dying

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dont jinx it

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Honestly her dying would really give a connection

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dont jinx it

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I would like to see it for story purposes, bu she’s too wholesome to die

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she has no combat capabilities whatsoever tho

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well except when they introduce fully automated whatever in jjl but eh

hybrid pawn Jul 22, 2019, 12:42 PM

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📎 image0.png

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What a cunt

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 1:13 PM

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who is that guy he seems badass

velvet heron Jul 22, 2019, 1:44 PM

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what a chad

soft raptor Jul 22, 2019, 1:57 PM

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What a chad indeed

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 2:10 PM

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joshu has big chad energy

brittle blade Jul 22, 2019, 2:24 PM

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so

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do any of you have the raws?

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Why does everyone think Rai will die?

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He may be a zeppeli since in part 7 it was said that they moved to another country but no one knows which

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PogChamp

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because he most likely will

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he looks like fodder

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where is pope of joshu church

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joshuWOW

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poop sock

hybrid pawn Jul 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I currently am in chapter 55

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Weird shit is going down

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Like always

brittle blade Jul 22, 2019, 2:34 PM

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📎 talsk.png

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📎 talks2.png

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 2:43 PM

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nice

fast crow Jul 22, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Might reread in color

brittle blade Jul 22, 2019, 3:20 PM

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mood

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jesus christ i totally forgot about this panel

📎 unknown.png

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 3:24 PM

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buh

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add bruh there

supple totem Jul 22, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I wonder if the dog has a stand

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Rock dog

brittle blade Jul 22, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I should watch that movie sometimes

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 3:31 PM

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buh

wise sleet Jul 22, 2019, 3:41 PM

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📎 bruh.png

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 3:51 PM

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bruh

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Remember when araki forgot how to draw and kill dogs?

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 4:14 PM

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remember that iwasuke isn't a real dog

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penis

hoary sun Jul 22, 2019, 4:59 PM

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He can only draw dogs he intends to kill

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Can we say that Ojiro is the milf hunter of part 8?

placid gyro Jul 22, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I love how

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you bring up that panel

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and I remembered

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that dog fucking lived after that

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 5:04 PM

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well it is a rock animal

placid gyro Jul 22, 2019, 5:06 PM

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is it now?

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I'll have to binge read Jojolion again

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I think it is

placid gyro Jul 22, 2019, 5:06 PM

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after it finishes that is

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cause I'm gonna forget everything from the start

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while trying to keep up with the present

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I almost forgot who Ojiro was

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I forgot

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It is a rock dog

placid gyro Jul 22, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I see

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yeah I'll need to binge read Jojolion

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when it finishes

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 5:30 PM

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@hoary sun He drew secco well but he still died

hoary sun Jul 22, 2019, 5:31 PM

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That’s the funniest fucking thing I’ve read all day

graceful sedge Jul 22, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@minor ore i mean @minor ore is r8ght, we might get a fucking scene of josuke and yasuho

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After all, there was a scene where poor tom was doing the "deed"

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 5:54 PM

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During the cheap trick arc, someone yells at rohan "maybe draw a nude?"
rohan is self insert of araki
part 8 starts with a naked woman
CONWISIDINK?

placid gyro Jul 22, 2019, 5:56 PM

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COINSIDINGDONGER?

hybrid pawn Jul 22, 2019, 6:01 PM

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BOINGO

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 6:02 PM

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OINGO

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Huh

supple totem Jul 22, 2019, 6:54 PM

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BRATHERS

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@minor ore please delete that ''Huh''

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Hmmm

hybrid pawn Jul 22, 2019, 9:42 PM

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What is it with people calling joshu cool

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I think it's part meme part serious

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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pretty sure it's all meme

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still love him though, one of the funnier jojo characters imo

burnt pagoda Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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THIS IS WHY

📎 Capture.JPG

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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I like him

burnt pagoda Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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LOOK AT THAT POSE

violet coral Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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virgin pose vs chad joshu

burnt pagoda Jul 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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he is the first charecter to pose in jojolion

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Joshu's first haircut

burnt pagoda Jul 22, 2019, 10:05 PM

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idk man there is someting about joshu in that pannel

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Somehow worse than the current one

burnt pagoda Jul 22, 2019, 10:07 PM

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📎 11.JPG

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it took 2 pages for his haircut to change

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nvm no

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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can i get some opinions on why Gappy likes to sleep underneath the matress

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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he has autism

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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that's fast

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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not joking, thats a legit theory

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:39 PM

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i'm not saying that you're wrong

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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they make weighted blankets for people with autism I guess cuz it helps them somehow, same way gappy likes pressure on him while he sleeps too

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:40 PM

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weighted blankets are used for a lot of things not just autism

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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also people say the way he acts is similar to how people with autism may act

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I dont fully trust this theory but its a popular one

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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does he make eye contact though

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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idk

hoary sun Jul 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Combining two people isn’t gonna create the perfect person

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Let’s be real

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:41 PM

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maybe josefumi likes to sleep like that

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or maybe it's one of kira's fetish

proper ether Jul 22, 2019, 11:42 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/StardustCrusaders/comments/7dgd2u/i_ask_this_without_a_trace_of_irony_is_gappy/

r/StardustCrusaders - I ask this without a trace of irony: is Gapp...

78 votes and 43 comments so far on Reddit

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:46 PM

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if he's on the spectrum it might be hard to know

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but if he doesn't make eye contact that might be a good indicator that he is

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:51 PM

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i assumed he liked the pressure because he became josuke while being buried

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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oh that's a good one

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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yeah that's what I thought

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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the walleye made him this way

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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He got used to sleeping there

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for 3 days

supple plaza Jul 22, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Y'know I realized, if Speed King's ability is similar to Killer Queen in that it can attach itself onto objects, it has serious synergy with Mitsuba's Stand

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Also one has to wonder, does the heat transfer apply if a Stand touched it as well?

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:55 PM

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we don't know if it does yet, speed king hasn't fought with a stand that punches it in the face yet

supple plaza Jul 22, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Also it has serious synergy with Kaato's Stand as well

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:56 PM

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How for example

supple plaza Jul 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Being able to store up a booby trapped object and then eject it out of nowhere

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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i can imagine it works with her deck of card real well

supple plaza Jul 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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As for Mitsuba, any object becomes a projectile thanks to her Stand

ocean mirage Jul 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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But then I can't see a situation where mitsuba has to fight with jobin

minor ore Jul 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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her stand card even specifies energy iirc so it would apply to his raw heat too

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theyre married and both have pretty aligned ambitions as far as family goes

supple plaza Jul 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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The problem that keeps Speed King from being utterly broken is that it either has to slowly boil you alive, or it has to reach directly to your head

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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yeah it doesnt insta kill like KQ and also has no bomb aoe effect

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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I'm curious about how would speed king react if it get punched

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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and theres no sheer heart attack

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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But we do know the heat can spread if one touches a 'heated' body part

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Mitsuba wouldn't fight with Jobin

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Like how Ojirou liked his fingers and had his brain melted

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:01 AM

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he touched the money

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:01 AM

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either way jobin has a ton of potential allies right now

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like

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that all synergize well with his ability

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Yeah, and the heat from the money went to his hand and then his tongue

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:01 AM

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tsurugi, mitsuba, tooru, doc

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I wonder if mundane water can reverse the effect of Speed King

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:02 AM

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not the doc

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Actually just Tsurugi and Caato

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oh oops forgot to mention caato

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Oh god can Speed King's ability transfer over to liquids? That'd be busted

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:02 AM

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The doc is part of the research organization which he stole the branch from

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those three alone would be a huge threat to the rai, josuke, and yasuho squad

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It is more likely they'd fight

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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what if soft and wet covers speed king with bubbles, would that cools it down

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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@ocean mirage, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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and Mitsuba is hiding a lot from Jobin

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She even fears him

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And recently was allied with Yasuho and Josuke

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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A final fight involving Joubin, Kaato, Tsurugi and maybe even Mitsuba would be interesting

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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She'd be grateful for the help at least and I don't it's likely she'd be with Jobin

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:03 AM

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If a gigantic clusterfuck

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Kaato
In combat

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0KekShake

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I'd love to see a team fight, that'd be awesome

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Especially Tsurugi with his Aizen tier power

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:04 AM

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a 3 on 3 would be crazy

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tsurugi has just been getting stronger and stronger

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Quite unlikely tho

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For a fight of this proportion

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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tsurugi is getting more and more desperate for the fruit i think

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Do Gappy, Yasuho and Mamezoku even have the skillset for such a power team?

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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maybe not yasuho, who has a much more utility based stand

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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yasuho might get killed off

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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mamezoku is a prime target for death by then

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:05 AM

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We already know Gappy can trap and move heat with S&W, I think it's safe to say Gappy can survive Speed King if he discovers the attack in time.

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Unless we do Higashikata Civil War and have literally every other Higashikata family member fight them too, a 3 on 3 would not be a fair fight in this case

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Heat or disintergation is the only thing that can beat Mamezuku at this point it seems so sk can be dangerous

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I highly doubt the Higashi's would side with Joubin, if Norisuke really did die

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unless they pin it on Josuke

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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hed probably be a neutral party tbh

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if hes even alive...

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Norisuke would def be with Josuke

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Paisley Park is a total crap shoot, Soft and Wet is versatile but heavily context dependant, Doggy Style even more so

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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Tsurugi seems to be acquiring a new ability

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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He helped him and even sent Rai

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:07 AM

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and I'm not sold that Mitsuba would side with Joubin

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:08 AM

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im not so sure, josuke does some pretty crazy stuff even without attribute stealing soft and wet

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:08 AM

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she seems pretty put off by his whole "strength" speeches

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:08 AM

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almost all jjl fights are context based anyways

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:08 AM

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It's kind of insane that after all of this, the most dangerous person in Jojolion is a cross dressing little boy

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I'm thinking that Joubin will come very close to going over the edge, but will be saved by his families words, only to have Kaato fuel his bad side and become the true big bad

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:09 AM

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it's a higashikata kid

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Y'know, when you think about it

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Jojolion has the highest amount of JoJos in the series at the same time

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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If you go back and read the flashback where Kaato exchanges to save Joubin, shes the one that planted the seed of "climbing higher" into Joubin

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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@inner yew, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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as well as the least amount of protag deaths ohmygod

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Yet.

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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he talked about that when he comes to domomite too

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Don't forget no one died in SC til the penultimate battle

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Josuke, Joubin, Joshu, Josefumi

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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i know thats whats got me worried

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i hope its not a bloodbath

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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There are plenty of people TO kill

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I seriously think Daiya will die...ya

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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considering how many people died in sbr i hope that araki will go easy on us this time

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Kyo seems likely

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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i think araki will kill off a bunch of supporting characters like yasuho

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Reminder that we still have no idea where the stone curse came from

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Something something Holy Corpse

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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something something rock humans

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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My guess is A) It has always been a higashi thing, or B) Love Train misfortune fuckery

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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rock humans can't reproduce

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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i really hope it ties into the rock humans origin

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Nah that's too self referential even for JoJo

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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I actually think the Rokakaka was created by Love Train, since New Guinea is basically on the opposite side of the planet from America

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I had this idea when Kaato was first introduced that she was a secret Rock Human that intentionally went to prison to hibernate

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But then I thought

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"That's fucking stupid"

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:14 AM

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lmao

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Even if she did there was no way anyone in the prison would have not noticed it.

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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but can rock human reproduce

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Yeah it's safe to say that no Higashi's or Joestars are Rock Humans

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But Araki never confirmed or denied crossbreeding is possible

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he merely said they reproduce similarly to humans

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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They probably can, but only between Rock Humans

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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he did say it wasn't possible

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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They're silicon based lifeforms, remember?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Oh he confirmed they can't reproduce?

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Yep

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they gotta be born somehow

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I thought it was just "romance between them often ends poorly"

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I meant

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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what if they're made by someone

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Between humans and rock humans tho

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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right

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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so we don't know for just rock humans

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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They're just incompatible on a fundamental level

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Nah they can definitely reproduce

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it says so in the big info drop about them

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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well we never saw the dick

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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XD

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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the dick is very important

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Maybe they just grow the dick

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Maybe they're all hermaphrodites

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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big if true

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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I mean Rock Humans can definetly have sex with humans

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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For some reason I just thought that baby rock humans randomly grew like plants

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Poor Tom forced us to know that

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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rip tom btw

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Now that I think about it, we haven't seen a single female rock human

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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@supple plaza, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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mmmmmm

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Which puts credit to the theory they could be male-looking hermaphrodites

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:19 AM

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can't wait for the moment when gappy kills the head doctor

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Joshu kills the head doctor

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i hope the head doctor ends up amounting to what the civil war arc is for sbr

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Joshu will go on a rampage at the end

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Then there's the Rock Animals and who knows how the fuck they work

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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iwasuke couls be 200 for all we know

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Also poor head doctor

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Do rock humans have an age limit

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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dont forget the baby

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who the fuck was the baby

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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He was only 89 years old

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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which baby

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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the one who showed up on shore after Johnny's death

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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he's a rock human for sure, he might've taken someone else's idenity

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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huuuh

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Oh that

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Wow I completely forgot

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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my guess was Aishou because he had a sweater on his head

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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I mean, probably

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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I really don't remember

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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do Rock humans mate underwater and lit their children was ashore?

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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i think araki is trying to confuse us with all the character and all the plots

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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i just assumed rock baby was a plot point araki gave up on

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seeing as its never mentioned again

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I really don't remember the rock baby

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its a small news clipping when johnny dies

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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yeah when did the rock baby happen ?

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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that says a baby with rock like skin washed up on the shore

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thats it

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Rock Humans don't actually survive underwater, remember?

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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i truly didn't remember

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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lol

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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It's like one of the first big things we've learned

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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the info is dropped right after the Joestar Jizou information

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at the conclusion of Shakedown alley

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ah right, they need air to breathe

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:23 AM

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yeah so foreverrr ago and never brought up again

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Could it be the first rock human

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In Morioh

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Huh... I guess it's possible

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though all the info about them seems to imply they've been around for sometime

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that they're our evolutionary cousins

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just using silicon instead of carbon

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Also it's weird how Yotsuyu is the only one who actually uses the rock-shifting skills all Rock Humans are implied to have

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Maybe he's just a cocky motherfucker

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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@inner yew, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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thats true, i guess we only catch glimpses when damo and the other guy die in public

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Ye it's pretty sad

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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i think any rock human is a cocky motherfucker

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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It's definitely clear that Araki was still figuring out what he wanted to do with them

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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but it wasn't convenient for the last fights

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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don't forget about Yotsuyu's siran wrap eye lasers

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

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yotsutsa died too soon... one of my favorite villain designs

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Yeah

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Being a rock human is pain, you either end up a crook or end up having a very shitty life

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It makes me wonder if the Rock Humans will appear again in Part 9, along with maybe the Wall Eyes, whom explanation is still nowhere in sight

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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he remembered though! that makes me hopeful

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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just let gappy kills all of the rock human and everything will be fine

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Gappy is brutal when it comes to killing the rock humans

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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because half of him is kira

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I'm starting to think there's something about the Wall Eyes completely unrelated to every concept we've had up untill now, I don't think they're related to the Holy Corpse or Stands at all

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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he drowns one, explodes the head of one in public view, burns one and makes the other watch

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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oh yeah turned wu into cement

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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trying to remember which one was that @minor ore

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Now that I think about it

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This chapter is the first time a named human dies in jojolion

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:29 AM

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he wou've killed poor tom too if he wasn't shot in the head

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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woah

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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The Wall Eyes are definitely Devil's Palm

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Gappy ends up being the main villain

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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@violet coral

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josuke just loves killing those goofy rock humans

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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oh shit gappy is the main villain we didn't see that coming

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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DOCTOR WU FIGHT THAT'S IT

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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I am somewhat hoping Gappy becomes just straight up Josefumi for the final fight

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and we get to see Kira's ghost guy wish him luck or something

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Nah they're different. Devil's Palm shifted around, Wall Eyes are static

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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@minor ore I didn't think he turned him into cement i thought he just corroded him in toxins.

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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gappy has that 1up

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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It's been alluded to a few times that Gappy is the one that's truly in the wrong

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Yotsuyu: The one whose actions are correct... is Tsurugi!

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Now that I think about it Holly hasn't appeared in a while

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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hes a got a pretty good moral high ground though... the rock humans dream isnt exactly a noble one

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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better yet, i would like gappy to be 2 whole person and exists like doppio and diavolo

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which is a villain

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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So much so I'm starting to forget the character motivations

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But Josuke inherently wants to save mommy

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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holly is in the hospital ]

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Gappy's main motive rn is saving holly

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its just p3 motives basically

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Well its like happy doesnt give a shit about helping anyone else except for his goal to heal holly

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Will Holly eat a rokakaka?

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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half of it maybe?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Not sure... maybe the new one?

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Jobin, Walter White-esque as he is, just wants to save his son

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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And it might end up Holly was helping the rock humans find a use for the fruit

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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But doesnt the new one still require another person's body?

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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they don't know how to do it yet

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Is it like a portable Sacred Grounds or something?

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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the new one specifically takes from other person

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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She obviously tried eating one for a reason and it backfired

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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We don't really know what the new Rokakaka does

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Old: fixes body part while destroying another part
new: fixes body part while destroying someone else

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my guess

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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yes

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I see...

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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im pretty sure josuke is also halfbrain with both josefumi and kira, though

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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The Gappy fusion happened because of a mix of Rokakaka AND Wall Eyes Sacred Ground

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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oops

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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reading the fusion scene made me cry

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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accidental ping

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Same that scene was so impactful

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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I love the scene where they finally fuse, it's fucking awesome

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their brodom is so pure

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 AM

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vitamin c fight best in the entire series imo

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it was incredible

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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i felt it when josefumi fed kira that fruit

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Kira is such a cool guy, I love when Josefumi calls him out on wanting to save Holly, and is like "Of course I'm in man."

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I'm starting to wonder if Gappy will maybe be forced to fuse again

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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fuse with what?

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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oof thatd get pretty convoluted

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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It's even worse when you realize josefumi was treating it for as a suicide

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Who knows?

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Fuck, maybe Yasuho

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Idk if New Rokakaka will be used...

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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oh shit

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:36 AM

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They only won the Vitamin C fight because josuke played a bet with the walking heart user

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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My guess is Tsurugi will fuse with someone

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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We're going Digital Devil Saga 2 up in here

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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with jobin

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Now that is an obscure reference

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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possible, I can see the fusion fucking up though and the mind is Joubin's but the body Tsurugi

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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jobin feeds tsurugi the fruit and he becomes one with tsurugi maybe

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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ive been hoping for that for a while

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Tsurugi turns into diavolo

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Okay who actually want the Digital Devil Saga 2 reference explained?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I can also see Head Doctor using it on Tsurugi to get a younger body

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and become a half rock, hald regular human... human

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Head doctor sent actually going to be old

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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so a rock human human

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I have a feeling the "oldness" is also a ruse

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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some undertale shit

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Tooru might very well be the Head Doctor's proxy

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Its actually tsurugi's new ability

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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i def think hes a proxy but wouldnt be surprised either way

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for either tooru or tsurugi

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Yeah, Tooru appeared a bit too coviniently

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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oh damn could head doctor be Tsurugi?

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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He DOES work at the hospital, remember

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Nah no way

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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OH SHIT TSURUGI IS THE HEAD DOCTOR ALL ALONG

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:39 AM

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The part where Tooru defends Josuke with the whole guy's neck snapping

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really leads me to believe Head Doctor himself is an illusion by Tooru

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:40 AM

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He showed up at the gate and tsurugi can make us see anything so maybe

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:40 AM

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an illusion dated yasuho? damn thatd be messed up

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:40 AM

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and he had two goals, to distract them and fuck them up... and to separate Gappy from Yasuho

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nah Tooru's real, but the guy they're chasing isn't

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:40 AM

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remember when yasuho came into the bathroom with joshu?

violet coral Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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the nut

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Also tsurugi is now passing out, so something could be happening in that time

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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yasuho can't catch a break

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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whats the deal with his face morphing was that the rock disease

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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WAIT !

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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The horrifying thing is that perception manipulation can explain and be used for almost goddamn anything

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Right after the head doctor got away on a bus we see tsurugi walking up in the middle of town!

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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And there's seemingly no range limit

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Waking

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Holy shit you may be right...

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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When you put it like that then it's possible that the Head Doctor is an illusion

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Which is why his movements seem so erratic and nonsensical

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:42 AM

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damn yo

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Perhaps head Dr. fleeing and Tooru's "inconvenience" stand are two distinct phenomena

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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And his seeming teleportation

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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oh shit so we don't know which one is him

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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that would also explain Doctor showing up on Higashikata land

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as well as the gate

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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it's like kira

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I thought you wrote fleeing as if that was his name. Dr.Fleeing

daring lily Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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This part is so insane

minor ore Jul 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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i see it as like an angler fish stand. its all tooru's but the old man is just a bait for the stands "bad luck"ability

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:44 AM

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jesus christ is the Head Doctor created by Tsurugi??

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:44 AM

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@inner yew, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I don't think any part has been even remotely as unpredictable and well planned than Jojolion

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Wait... maybe he's subconsciously continuing to throw them off Joubin's trail

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Yasuho herself was like "Yo this is the wrong lead, let's go for Joubin"

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and they're like "Come on the doctor is right over here!"

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:45 AM

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but maybe the head doctor might not even be real

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:45 AM

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If Tsurugi is the cause there's no way Joubin doesn't know

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:45 AM

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I don't think he is.

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He's definitely some sort of illusion.

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At least the thing they're chasing...

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Or again he might be Tooru, and the fancy dressed man is the illusion

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:45 AM

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the way he walks reminds me of silver chariot requiem

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people can get close but never get TO him

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:46 AM

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The thing they are chasing, is definitely not a person. It's an image, illusion, or projection.

#

It's either created by Tooru, or Tsurugi, I think that's safe to assume.

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I think the comparison to Requiem is also fair

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you seem to get hurt or face repercussions when you pursue it.

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:47 AM

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i know right?

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Well considering that the Stand used in the Head Doctor mini-arc definetly wasn't Paper Moon King, we can assume it's BOTH

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:47 AM

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tooru did it for sure, the dude dressed like he has a stand

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Which either means that Tsurugi is (again) in cahoots with the Rock Humans or they're accidentally attacking the same person at the same time

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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It WOUULD be kind of strange if "Old Man Illusion" and "Inconvenient shit runs into you" were the same stand

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but it's possible, Jojo has had pretty convoluted powers before

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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It's just that Paper Moon King has been one of THE most used Stands in the entire Part

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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it's also possible that the Old Man illusion is a subconsciously created illusion

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by Tsurugi when he faints

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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So like some sort of out-of-body Diavolo?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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but that's a bit of a stretch

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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paper moon king requiem maybe?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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because Tsurugi was never around to know about Head Doctor

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so why would it be creating that image

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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I've had this idea for a while now but

#

What if the New Branch can evolve Stands in some way?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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it's ALSO possible that Head Doctor really is the thing they're chasing, and he can just teleport around using his stand

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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maybe tsurugi doesn't know but the stand is acting on its own

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Well, Araki implied that "heart's changing" can change stands

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I think Tsurugi might be feeling torn about working both side, with his dad and Josuke's team

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:50 AM

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he's working with jobin for sure

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Well that's more of a 'natural' evolution of a Stand. Stands always have gotten their powers from the personality and motivations of the User

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Tusk is a naturally evolving Stand, for example

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So is Echoes

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:51 AM

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is that why part 8 kira has a more feminine looking killer queen ?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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That's probably just artstyle evolution tbh

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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part 4 killer queen is much more jacked

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I'm talking more Requiem 'forced evolution' type of thing

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I mean have you seen all the new pics of the old jojo's?

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Maybe

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Maybe it can evolve your stand in exchange for your humanity or something

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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what new pics?

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I'm not sure if the fruit would evolve a stand

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but it's possible I guess

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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But this is a shot in the dark

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I just assumed rock-disease is fucking with tsurugi's power

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Oh I'm not saying the Rokakaka is what's making Tsurugi's Stand go berserk

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After all it has still not been harvested

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:54 AM

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but tsurugi's motivation has changed

inner yew Jul 23, 2019, 12:54 AM

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it's hard to know what his motivation is

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He seems kind of dragged into helping his dad

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:54 AM

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i think he wants the fruit

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Remember that Jojolion is a story about breaking a curse, it's been stated from the first pages

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I think it's fairly obvious what Tsurugi wants

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He just wants to live

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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oh shit, what if breaking the curse is ending the jojo bloodline?

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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@ocean mirage, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 12:55 AM

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And not force his mom or dad to die for him

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I mean, that's one way to interpret it

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But there's the much more obvious interpretation of the Higashikata Rock Curse

hoary sun Jul 23, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I remember there’s an episode in atla of zuko being unable to fire bend because he switched sides. Maybe something’s happening to tsurugi because he’s working against josuke and yashuo now

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:00 AM

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but is his stand that malleable to change like that

hoary sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Koichi’s stand changed significantly just because he gained confidence

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:02 AM

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because koichi had it in him all along

hoary sun Jul 23, 2019, 1:02 AM

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But he didnt

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He would have died bc of the areow

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Arrow

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:02 AM

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I think it's more the fact that the more darkness is in your soul, the more destructive your Stand is

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:03 AM

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does that explain why the world and star platinum so strong

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:03 AM

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It's less about the awakening and more about the evolution

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:04 AM

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oh shit that might explain why star platinum was weaker when jotaro gets older, he's not as angry as before

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:04 AM

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A seemingly playful and harmless Stand like Paper Moon King starts to slowly transform into a horrifying uncontrollable thing after its user starts getting more drowned in desperation and fear

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Makes sense to me

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:05 AM

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i can get behind that but it's the speed of the change

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it's so quick

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maybe the disease scares him that much

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Well, he's still a child

kind owlBOT Jul 23, 2019, 1:06 AM

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@supple plaza, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:06 AM

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And he's been getting manipulated left and right

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:07 AM

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he's acting more and more grown up for sure

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:08 AM

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There'll come a certain point where Paper Moon King might go completely berserk and maybe become totally separated from Tsurugi

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Wouldn't it be wild if Paper Moon King evolved into a manifestation of Tsurugi's negative emotions?

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:09 AM

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so like it would requiem itself?

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:09 AM

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More like Notorious BIG itself

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Without the death

ocean mirage Jul 23, 2019, 1:09 AM

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well notorious BIG needs the death though right?

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is that what triggers it?

supple plaza Jul 23, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Notorious BIG is a sort of weird unexplained anomaly

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But what I am describing is different