But when he controls heat physically it's not that far
#jojolion
heavy grove
void viper
🗿
ah ok
so like, warming something up is a short range
but the heat trapping thing is long?
heavy grove
Yeah
minor ore
yes
minor ore
it's kinda confusing
void viper
if that's the case then joblin main villian
minor ore
araki just has a thing for giving main villains complicated stands so 👀
heavy grove
It has to touch it first
void viper
D4C wasn't complicated in it's final state
minor ore
you mean love train?
heavy grove
The original D4C arc was confusing as hell
heavy grove
Yeah
heavy grove
Oh love train?
kind owlBOT
@heavy grove, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
void viper
how did araki even think he was going to be able to draw that properly
minor ore
everything was confusing
void viper
nah the train fight was easy to follow
heavy grove
If part 8 is the last part I want the final villain to be worth it
So I dont want jobin
Since it doesn't have that insane ability
heavy grove
Kaatos stand is just hiding things in cards
void viper
part 8 is a retelling of part 4, KQ didn't have a crazy ability
until the final final arc
ahh yeah and SK was "just warming things up"
until he fucking murders everyone
minor ore
i can't wait for the finale aaaaaa
heavy grove
Jobin doesn't have a final villain motive either
minor ore
or at least for the main villain reveal
heavy grove
It's just to help the higashikata business
void viper
protecting his kid and trade isn't a motivation?
heavy grove
Ah I forgot about tsurugi
minor ore
tsurugi is like his main motive
void viper
that kid's gonna be traumatised
heavy grove
But If they dont reveal the villain soon it might have less screentime than diavolo
void viper
you mean DIO?
heavy grove
Dio was still shown all the way from the beginning
void viper
ohh do you mean the actual diavolo
heavy grove
Yeah
void viper
true
heavy grove
Unless it's the head doctor
void viper
unless we do 😳
heavy grove
Also didnt tsurugi kill norisuke?
minor ore
We don't know how he died
heavy grove
Oh
minor ore
i have an inkling of a feeling that the head doctor is a red herring
or if he died for sure
heavy grove
That might be true
minor ore
we've probably already met the villain
minor ore
or we might not even have a true "villain" this time
just a bunch of competing factions
heavy grove
Yeah
void viper
god I forgot tooru exists
minor ore
Yeah possible
heavy grove
It could be the rokakaka organization as a whole
minor ore
regardless i think the final battle will be josuke vs jobin
void viper
that's probably what's going to happen I hate to say
minor ore
i don't want either to die
heavy grove
I just want yasuhos death to be over with
The sooner I get over it the better
Cause I know its gonna happen
heavy grove
I hope so
I personally dont think any more of the higashikatas will die
None of them are important enough
They dont help or have as much charactdr
minor ore
i just hope yasuho doesn't die
minor ore
araki pls pull another okuyasu on us
heavy grove
I hope so
Maybe she dies and josuke uses the equivalent exchange to save her
Or the plant appraiser dies since hes important
minor ore
rai dies for sure
heavy grove
Part 5 and on is when araki really started killing characters
minor ore
jobin is evil rohan
void viper
I'd say rai is rohan
minor ore
maybe
but he doesn't have the conflict with the jojo
nah araki has been killing characters since part 1
part 4 was the only deviation from this
ffs he killed the title character nine eps in
void viper
yeah but everyone else (except will) survived
void viper
I'm trying my best not to 
minor ore
what if ojiro is the shigechi
void viper
now we're talking
heavy grove
Maybe since part 8 is new part 4 he wont kill as many characters 
void viper
same I want to be here for a part change
void viper
thinking about part 9 really gets me hyped
and yeah which means the most EPIC story ever
void viper
this but almost unironically ^
minor ore
we don't deserve araki
heavy grove
We really dont
gray edge
I have a question
The bit with Norisuke being dragged
This takes place after the Ojiro business right?
minor ore
Yes
gray edge
It’s just kinda confusing
That Araki right after that scene, makes a arc about Ojiro that takes place before that
minor ore
It's not right after that scene
That scene was shortly before the harvest
And after that the week countdown started
so head doctor arc and all of that
And now we're getting close to that event
gray edge
I see I see, thank you
heavy grove
I feel like when the rokakaka is harvesting or whatever is gonna be the ending of jojolion
Like its gonna be why the final fight happens
minor ore
It's expected but I feel like it would be too soon
plush jackal
95
minor ore
will that make it the longest jojo part?
minor ore
Yeah it will be the longest part
minor ore
but it's shonen
so like 20 pages
on avg
Also the start of sbr was shonen too right
i think so
proper ether
tsurugi is the main villain and josuke is going to beat the shit out of him
heavy grove
Cant wait for it
minor ore
Beating up a sick 10 year old
plush jackal
heavy grove
minor ore
tsurugi's stand is too bland tbh
heavy grove
Yeah but the last couple of chapters make tsurugi seem like his stand has evolved in some way
minor ore
doesnt araki go for "main antagonist should have a really strong stand that can do space or time stuff"?
the illusions thing?
heavy grove
D4C didnt have time
minor ore
it had space, in a way
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
heavy grove
But yeah they have to be incredibly strong
minor ore
dimensions and thats the same league as space and time stuff
heavy grove
Which is why I dont think its jobin or kaato
minor ore
Also have a good design too
an iconic design
we all can remember how killer queen, KC, d4c or whatever looked like
like definitely
heavy grove
Yeah my favorite stand is made in heaven
Mostly for its design and arc
So they have to be really cool abilities and designs otherwise they'll be forgettable
minor ore
my fav one is personally d4c and buff valentine but I guess thats personal taste
heavy grove
Valentine and D4C is a close second for me
minor ore
the head doctor has a weird stand ability
and ill bet that we have only seen a fraction of it
minor ore
well he dresses like a stand user
heavy grove
Definitely
I think the head doctor/ tooru will the the boss before the boss
Like vanilla ice or something
minor ore
maybe
placid gyro
I still think the ability is just tunnel vision
minor ore
it probably is
minor ore
tunnel vision?
placid gyro
Where you're too focused on one objective
That you forget your surroundings
Like looking through a tunnel
heavy grove
Theres a youtuber called xforts who said a lot about his ability in one of his jojolion reviews
placid gyro
It only shows your objective, blocks out everything else
minor ore
how does that turn your legs into spaghetti when you hit a table
placid gyro
Yeah I knew xforts I'm in his discord channel
minor ore
^^
heavy grove
It just broke his legs
placid gyro
^
minor ore
by hitting a table?
placid gyro
Yeah
heavy grove
I think it amplifies damage
placid gyro
Cause people in Jojo are either too fragile or too resilient
heavy grove
Since just bumping into the sliding door caused josuke to cut his finger
And when josuke blocked that dudes hand his entire neck snapped
It seems like a weird ability so far
minor ore
or some misfortune thing or whatever
placid gyro
I don't think it's that
minor ore
put damage thing on a thing and that switches to the target when it touches it
placid gyro
Because people see you walking recklessly
minor ore
probably not
placid gyro
The reason why I think it's tunnel vision is just because people actually see the others chasing them head doctor recklessly
And ignoring their surroundings
Also I feel like it makes sense with Rai's obsession with the head doctor's age
heavy grove
The youtuber also had a theory that maybe tsurugi was hiding the identity of the head doctor
Since they were with eachother once before
minor ore
tsurugi wasnt even remotely close tbh
heavy grove
Which explains why he moves so fast
minor ore
I know that his stand has a high range but hed have to actively activate it for that kind of control
heavy grove
We dont have any stands stats right?
I'm gonna look up its range
I know its unlikely but still
heavy grove
minor ore
so I might say that his stand is actually giving paper that property instead of making it behave like whatever it wants to be
heavy grove
Its development potential is an E so my theory that it has a new ability is deconfirmed
But yeah its C also deconfirms the other theory
minor ore
well it can do illusions
heavy grove
Yeah but how far do the illusions go?
Tsurugi was always close by when his illusions were activated
minor ore
in the yasuho vs. tsurugi arc not really was he
heavy grove
Yeah he was always wanting yasuho to notice and look at him
kind owlBOT
@heavy grove, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !
burnt pagoda
seems like his ability is to exagurate reality in his illusions
heavy grove
I thought it was to change perception
heavy grove
The woman thought she was holding it when she wasnt
burnt pagoda
maybe he can also dampen reality
heavy grove
While tsurugi blacked out
heavy grove
Maybe
minor ore
not really
burnt pagoda
off that would be gruesom
minor ore
he illusioned glass shards
burnt pagoda
yes
burnt pagoda
he made it look like their throats were slit
and necks were broken
im just speculatin if he can do the opposite
like suppose a dude has his leg chooped off but he thinks he just bruised his leg
like hiding attcks
lke
heavy grove
That would be changing the mans perception of the wound
burnt pagoda
yashu os ex
what happend to rai
he bumps his leg
he thinks that its just a small tap
heavy grove
That's part of the doctor/toorus stand
burnt pagoda
oof
heavy grove
The doctors ability is to amplify wounds tho right?
burnt pagoda
wwho knows
it might even similar to ger
and green grass og home
and they will never be able to reach him
heavy grove
The youtuber said it might be to manipulate coincidences
burnt pagoda
imm still kinda upset about ojiros death
heavy grove
Since all of those things happened while they were running after the doctor
burnt pagoda
yeah
heavy grove
And it amplified all the damage they took from the coincidences
burnt pagoda
that elbow saw blad stand
heavy grove
?
heavy grove
Oh I think that's just the doctors syand
Or toorus
Mamezuku saw it too
On an umbrella stand
burnt pagoda
it kinda looked like nut king call with elbow blades
heavy grove
I cant find it, do you know what chapter specifically?
Here
And here's where the head doctor was with tsurugi
@burnt pagoda
burnt pagoda
thanks
wait a second
joubins wife was in the house when ojiro attacked
i forgot her name
heavy grove
Oof idk
heavy grove
A3l is such a cool stand
heavy grove
Jobin has a pretty balanced stand
burnt pagoda
norisuke has the weakest
heavy grove
Yeah since it has next to nothing attack power
burnt pagoda
whats his wifes name again??
heavy grove
No sorry mitsuba is jobins
heavy grove
Norisikes ex wife is kaato
burnt pagoda
ah
burnt pagoda
ik
heavy grove
Since hes fucking dead
burnt pagoda
we dont know that
burnt pagoda
mmm
minor ore
Kaato main villain !
minor ore
Just wait a little bit more!!!!!
burnt pagoda
her stand isnt stong enogh for taht
heavy grove
It would be sick but
kind owlBOT
@burnt pagoda, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !
burnt pagoda
maybe she flips a card and a vehicle comes out
heavy grove
We dont know how big objects she stores can be
proper ether
caatos stand seems similar to d4c but with cards
heavy grove
I still dont gst some jojolion stands though
I dont get the one on the road at all
And nut king call can get a bit confusing
burnt pagoda
yeah
proper ether
nut king call isnt that confusing, but shakedown road is
proper ether
how does leaves have a stand
burnt pagoda
yeah
minor ore
shakedown road is because johnny shot the ground with infinite spi when he died
minor ore
theres a panel of it
burnt pagoda
i honesty still dont know what it dose
heavy grove
I think its ability is to make a line with leaves and propell someone on it to the end and back
Almost instantly
burnt pagoda
yeah its weird
some how juske attcks people and breaks sttudd without realising
attacks
heavy grove
Yeah
minor ore
the tree?
craggy vault
Anyone read the new chapter??
craggy vault
Shit was lit, I was so hoping they’d do more with Speed King cause his design and ability already is tight af
craggy vault
Yeah! Like raising temp is wicked and super strong already but like, did he like plant speed king on ojiro? Either way it was insane
heavy grove
I think he did it to the phone or something
craggy vault
Maybe, I think it’s that he touched the money from his pocket with it, cause that was the first thing Ojiro touched and it bubbles and welded to his chest which might’ve transferred the heat to his fingertips?
That’s what I think happened but idk if I read it entirely right 😅
minor ore
Thats not it
heavy grove
Maybe he did it to multiple things
minor ore
he moved ojiros body to the pool himself
i think he did it to the phone
and touched the phone planning on makorin to answer it
so he planted the phone at the apartmenet along with ojiro
who died somewhere else
or he touched the plant, perhaps?
craggy vault
How could he move him tho? I thought Ojiro made it back to his house with the pool and tried to jump into the pool to get away from the heat but touched his phone at some point?
heavy grove
I thought ojirou just died on the street and jobin moved him when he retrieved the plant
craggy vault
I don’t know if he’s retrieved the plant or not, did it show that he did or was it vaguely implied at all?
heavy grove
No he walked to oujiro to get the plant
craggy vault
Ah! I didn’t remember that lol
heavy grove
I think it was near the end or something
minor ore
at the end jobin was seen with the plant
craggy vault
I’m really interested in Speed King cause even now it’s like, super vague what’s exactly happened even though he sort of explained the ability
kind owlBOT
@craggy vault, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
craggy vault
Either Joubin or the head doctor are def gonna be the main villain for sure
craggy vault
Ohhh maybe, he’s sus
He definitely seems to be in association with the head doctor with how he kept interrupting their progress, which makes me wonder if the stand that was making stuff get in their way was the doctors or his?
heavy grove
Yeah
I personally think its tooru's
And the head doctor will either be tha main villain
Or the boss before the villain
Like vanilla ice
craggy vault
Hm you might be right about that
That makes me wonder than about Joubins place in terms of like, good guy bad guy yknow?
heavy grove
I think hes a third party
craggy vault
Sorta like Diego in SBR?
craggy vault
Right
heavy grove
Speaking of the orginization
craggy vault
?
heavy grove
What if tooru is a part of it?
I don't have any evidence or anything but i think it'd be a nice twist
craggy vault
Maybe, he definitely seems affiliated with them in some way shape or form
heavy grove
Yeah and I know someone mentioned he dresses like a stand user
proper ether
someone once said toru has "SF" somewhere on him, so super freak could be his stand
craggy vault
Well I mean who doesn’t?
Like, every character has some stylization but it kinda just makes sense that most characters be stand users
Which one was super freak again?
proper ether
super freak isnt a real stand, it was just speculation
heavy grove
Yeah but with normal unimportant characters its easy to tell who's important and who's not important
craggy vault
Ah, I haven’t heard about it
heavy grove
Yeah they are usually more detailed
craggy vault
True true
heavy grove
Like look at his clothing textures
They're way too detailed for him to be a nothing character
minor ore
smol joshu
proper ether
also sf stylized on the belt
characters that arent stand users usually dont have letters and shit referencing their stand on their clothes
minor ore
i really hope norisuke isnt dead
heavy grove
He is
He was in a bodybag
And if were nearing the end
Araki has to start killing off characters
Especially important ones
proper ether
theory: joshu doesnt actually grow hair, its a wig he's had since childhood
heavy grove
Isnt Joshua a rapist or something
kind owlBOT
@heavy grove, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !
heavy grove
Oh yeah I forgot
minor ore
Kaato titties 
heavy grove
Wasnt he from josukes flashbacks or something?
proper ether
I dont either
heavy grove
Bro what if hes the main villain
kind sun
Bruh
heavy grove
That would be mad cringe
minor ore
Some say he's early design of X
heavy grove
Head doctor looks bigger still
heavy grove
Probably from the rokakaka
kind sun
He is the choclate disco of this part
heavy grove
Idk man tooru really does seem important
He has a past w/ one of the main characters and josuke is shown to not like him
Which could lead to conflict
kind sun
He can be the last enemy before the boss
heavy grove
Yeah like vanilla ice
heavy grove
Eeh
He doesn't really have the stand for it
And his motive is the same as multiple other characters
kind sun
So did Yoshikage Kira
heavy grove
Kira had an op stand
kind sun
Speed King is stronger then Killer queen
heavy grove
It just stores heat inside of objects really
It can manipulate heat close range
But he has to be really close for that
kind sun
So does killer queen
He doesnt need to be close
He can just plant heat traps and wait for someone to touch them
Kira needed to be close
Besided Jobin will probably get a power up
Just like every jojo villain excluding Diavolo
kind sun
He was so OP the main jojo needed a power up to beat him
kind sun
We didnt see Kaato ever since Jobins flashback
heavy grove
Yeah but weve only seen her stand twice we dint know it's full capability
kind sun
We saw more Ojirto then her
heavy grove
Lots of stands can ora rush
minor ore
Only soft and wet ora rushes
heavy grove
But I still wonder if josuke will use his plundering ability again
Or if araki just forgot
minor ore
Kira rushes with wryyyyyy
speed king rushes with SPEEEEEYYYYYY
I don't think anyone else rushes
Josefumi does
with ora
proud stag
Tomoki Wu does.
his goes "I never lose"
kind sun
Didnt vitamin c rushed?
heavy grove
How many people have had more than one stand at a time?
heavy grove
I know of emporio and Janken boi
long wasp
Rohan technically
minor ore
rohan and not only technically
he literally had two stands which is why turning trick into a book affected him as well
long wasp
Would Josuke count as well due to Superfly having kind of attached itself to him
scarlet dome
It's an independent stand so no I guess
proud stag
Well Cheap Trick and Anubis technically were second stands to Rohan and Polnareff.
Jolyne for a short time and Emporio had two through Pucci's disc.
DIO has two "naturally", that he also can use just like that.
forest nimbus
Wait what. I thought puccis stand just evolves
proud stag
who mentioned Pucci's stand?
long wasp
Ultimate Kars has several Stands
forest nimbus
Nvm, i misread my bad
proud stag
Given that DIO had Jonathan's stand because of his body...
what if Gappy has Killer Queen?
scarlet dome
If hermit purple is the ''hamon stand'' then doesn't that mean DIO had two stands aswell?
since Johanthan's body still had Hamon running through it
Or considering the body wasn't completely DIO's ,that would mean that the hamon parts weren't in DIO's control, therefore he didn't have two stands
dim nexus
Ay fellas where do you read jojolion? I finished everything up until chapter 62 but the rest isn't on manga rock
minor ore
I read the new chap on Mangadex
scarlet dome
I use mangadex
plush jackal
mangadex
proud stag
@scarlet dome he clearly used Jonathan's stand so what are you on about?
@dim nexus are you reading the colored version?
dim nexus
I was but I'm reading in gray-scale now
proud stag
https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-290799?page=undefined
This has it apparently if you want mangarock
scarlet dome
@proud stag What do you mean?
minor ore
https://mangadex.org/chapter/126378/1 mangadex is honestly the best place for the non coloured version.
proud stag
he uses Jonathan's stnad
minor ore
wait fuck. I linked 65 instead of 62. I fixed it.
Anyways mangadex is good for the b&w jojo updates. Just read it from there if you can
actually mangarock is fine as well. pick whichever
scarlet dome
I use mangarock for me ipad which I think is more convenient
minor ore
I use mangarock for reading pretty much everything. But I only ever read on PC
and apparently like 90% of people read on a mobile device
so sometimes mangarock doesn't work for them
late beacon
pastel adder
It isn't @minor ore even the japanese version is only colored to volume 16 I believe
burnt kite
A new era of jojokes has befallen upon us! no longer will we be restrained to "Killer Queen has already touched that" over and over again, now "Speed King has already touched that" is our new leader
pastel adder
Pretty sure it's in volume 18
burnt kite
Its design is quirky and goofy, and that's why we love it
minor ore
caesars stand would be soft & wet because that rock
made his body soft and wet with blood
fast crow
Nice
kind owlBOT
@fast crow, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !
upbeat coral
Speed King has already touched that phone
wind mica
Someone explain to me why I hate Joshu so much
pastel adder
he is always an asshole because of how shitty his life has been made by josuke moving in
wind mica
Okay so how do I get The World Over Heaven to delete him
proper ether
josuke uses S&W to steal his life force
pale moon
upbeat coral
what he's just taking a jacuzzi bath
proper ether
since danny was killed, so practically day 1
copper jay
Jojo has always been brutal
upbeat coral
anyone else remember the jumping jack flash fight from part 6?
i think that was bloodier than metallica
copper jay
There are have been brutal things than a burning blood vessel
But jeez its still disturbing
Also oujiru made the biggest comeback
upbeat coral
Chapter 87: Ojiro Returns
Chapter 88: Ojiro Unreturns
copper jay
In the span of less than 2 chapters, he stole the fruit,
upbeat coral
and in the span of 1 chapter he got drowned in his own pool
copper jay
Fair enough
Do we know where the fruit is now? Is it at the apartment?
I kinda wasn’t paying full attention when i was reading
proper ether
its with ojiros corpse I think
unkempt blade
imagine if josuke had to fight ojiro again but araki said haha 4balls no more plundering use your weakass bubblebombs this time
minor ore
no new chapter yet?
oh
satoru akefu is pretty much confirmed main antagonist at this point
can't wait for akefu to donut rai
i mean;
Its powers are unknown, but Josuke says that it appeared behind them and disappeared when he turned around to face it, saying it didn't do any actual damage to him.
this sounds pretty time-related to me
this gonna be fun
- he leads something
long wasp
There's still a bunch of stuff left open like Kaato, and since Araki still brings her up, she'll have to do something in the story to warrant that
minor ore
- he's the mastermind of the rokakaka organization
- he has an unknown stand that has potential to be related to time
3 big points leading to him being the bad boy
long wasp
Well, time related Stands don't lead to the main villain so much in the SBRverse. I mean, just look at SBR. Valentine's ability wasn't time related, but he was the big bad
minor ore
you see though, he's the HEAD doctor, like how valentine is the LEADER or the steel ball race, and how diavolo is the LEADER of passione, and he's also the mastermind behind the rokakaka organization
however, i do think kaato does have potential as well
long wasp
Well, so was Damo earlier in the part. And he was still killed off
Same could happen to Akefu
A major character that could be the big bad, but killed off just to throw the main cast off
minor ore
i think that, at best, akefu is going to be a really major villain, a midboss of sorts
long wasp
Yeah, he'd definitely work as a major villain
long wasp
But then you have everything Tsurugi and Jobin are doing, so Akefu being the main villain would still leave too much open
minor ore
risotto or wamuu of part 8
kaato, jobin and akefu are my sus for antagonists that are going to be major
tsurugi maybe?
You guys think Gappy will die?
proper ether
nah
long wasp
I'm gonna hope Kaato is big bad, as her ability is somewhat similar to Valentine's, and she has a big motive against the Higashikatas
minor ore
we haven't seen a jojo dying in their part in a while
long wasp
I think Gappy will survive
long wasp
I feel like Yasuho is gonna survive, Rai, not so much
minor ore
yasuho might survive but be on the brink of death a lot like koichi
long wasp
Oh yeah, definitely
I just wonder that if Araki were to ever have Jobin and Gappy fight, would he decide to use the plunder ability again so Gappy could steal the heat
minor ore
i hope we get to see more kyo
long wasp
Araki removed Kyo from the family picture, but I do have hope she does appear cause she played a major role in the beginning
And if someone like Ojiro can return, so can Kyo
minor ore
i'm thinking joshu is going to get the shigechi treatment, seen as a bit of a bad person but have their ending redeem them
idk
long wasp
Joshu needs to have a proper fight. Like, his ability is pretty powerful
minor ore
can't wait for the AU of the three girls that ignored shigechi to return in joshu's death
get joshu a better cut though
fix that hair
long wasp
if Araki improves Joshu, I wonder how r/joshuhate will react
minor ore
i wonder if there's ever going to be a kakyoin or polnareff AU
that'd be epic
probably in part 9 though if there is even a part 9
long wasp
Seeing a part 9 would feel so odd since we've had 8 parts for so long
minor ore
what if araki does an apple and just skip 9 and goes straight to 10
long wasp
everyone would be so confused, but I'd love to see that
minor ore
Man RIP Ojiro
At least we now know what exactly Speed King’s true ability is
I like how we were just having the ojiro plot twist and thought "a major plot change is happening" but it really was like a spin-off because literally nothing important happened
ojori and his gf died and thatbwas about it
nothing to the rokaka fruit or whatever
I mean tbf at least we now actually know what Speed King actually does
I guess
And the extent of its powers
Also to be honest I never really got the vibe that Ojiro and Maokorin would be big players in the end
Seemed like they were set up for the sole purpose of losing/dying later
"weak character proves himself" arc
but eh we already have joshu for that
minor ore
joshu is definitely getting a redemption arc
cloud quiver
I still can't get over how he reacted to his Mom
"Are you really our Mom? Why don't you let me suckle a bit?!"
proper ether
you're saying you wouldnt tell your mom that?
cloud quiver
I wouldn't tell that to the Mom that went to prison for killing a middle schooler for fifteen years.
Still I hope he gets a lot more Stand fights
There's so much Araki can and will do with all of these Stand Users that I'm so hyped to see.
minor ore
the worst thing about the part is that we get a lot of cool stands that show up for one arc and then dissapear
milagro man best arc because it's a solo joshu arc
proper ether
it shows that joshu is also a jpop fan
minor ore
I'm so glad that joshu isn't a kpop stan
formal blaze
Just read the last chapter
Damn, yeah
I called it
Ojiro got fucking wrecked
That was absolutely brutal
Is Makorin's daughter gonna be adopted by the Higashikatas?
proper ether
didnt she bully tsurugi tho?
formal blaze
Yeah but Tsurugi is probably a forgiving bab
minor ore
didn't the daughter also get nae nae'd by speed king
proper ether
no
proper ether
although she has to worry about her mom and ojiros corpses now
split tinsel
color scans where
split tinsel
They were supposedly dropping today
For the newest ones
Last update covered up to 62
If i remember
formal blaze
Nah
Also I feel a bit underwhelmed by Speed King's ability
I thought, personally, he could make things vibrate extremely quickly and at different frequencies
Thus being able to produce "heat" like a microwave does
But nah it just makes things hot
prime venture
So it ‘stores heat’ right?
Is the release automatic then?
Or is this a killer queens first bomb kinda situation
proper ether
its like killer queen in a way
prime venture
Nice
And yet even after more on speed king I still don’t know where the plot is
We’re basically just waiting for rokaka time now
formal blaze
Could the Rokakas fruit be used on Josuke's head to cure his amnesia serious question
Like, his brain
proper ether
but equivelant exchange, so something would have to go
prime venture
And it’d have to be equivalent yeah
Idk how much would have to go to fix his brain tbh
Or that part of it
proper ether
he probably wouldnt get it used on himself tho, he already knows his past and there doesnt seem to be a way to split him back to kira and josefumi
prime venture
True
minor ore
Unless, he eats the fruit, and the fruit thinks that he’s two people
Restores Kira’s body
And josefumi is the thing being exchanged when they split
proud stag
let's wait until she ever resurfaces first
supple totem
king nut call REQIUEM
brittle blade
ooh
so Oujiros new fun fun fun ability was that he literally has to put the symbol on others like a sticker
instead of making them hurt
it's still convoluted
tawny sentinel
Well tsurugi’s stand is evolving somehow, and this fight was just showcasing that
Or at least that’s my interpretation
tawny sentinel
The illusion-creating thing has never been shown this way before I think
minor ore
Uh it was
tawny sentinel
Well besides the same-face thing
minor ore
Remember when he turned a bus into Jobin
tawny sentinel
Im not a huge part 8 kind of guy so
minor ore
tawny sentinel
Oh yeah
rigid fern
@minor ore Dont use slurs in this server.
minor ore
I know
fallen trellis
paper moon is beginning to make less and less sense
First it was "you can't tell faces and text apart" and now people are literally seeing things that aren't there
tawny sentinel
Yeah that was what I was saying above
slow oxide
Another case of Araki basically bending the rules of the stand I guess
burnt kite
A stand can change with the user, Paper Moon King starting to work in different ways is just reflecting Tsuguri's everchanging mindset
minor ore
@burnt kite when was that stated?
minor ore
Joshu's hair.
my theory on norisuke getting killed is that maybe jobin ordered him to
i think from this chapter onward we might witness some trust grow between them
and then tsurugi becomes alienated from josuke and co
remember that hes still a little kid and would be susceptible to this kind of influence
minor ore
does the rokakaka have a connection to the corpse of jesus
slender dragon
minor ore
oh yeah they do
but didn't johnny kinda do equivalent exchange
with the power of the corpse
he did it with the spin
With act 4
so did he cure Rina with act 4 too
He cured Rina with the corpse and George with Act 4's Spin
I think he prayed for the corpse to save Rina so it redirected the disease to George
yeah so kinda like equivalent exchange
it was weird because he didn't use the corpse's ability
hoary sun
Also weird that ticket to ride just so happened to take the disease from one member of johnny’s family just to give it to another
minor ore
I won't say it's ticket to ride
I think ticket to ride just works differently when no one is using the corpse
i like how joshu made the best speedwagon impression during the bug fight
minor ore
Does Jobin know that Josuke is Kira & Josefumi?
I think he only got to see Josuke kill Damo, but aside from that and wanting the rokakaka for himself Jobin doesn't really have a reason to be against Josuke
But now that Ojiro said Holly's full name I think he's going to investigate and face Josuke head on
Maybe that's what the "Ojiro Returns" arc accomplished 
minor ore
you might be right
hoary sun
Jobin knows that josuke and co want the rokakaka but he doesn’t know why
That’s what the ozone baby fight accomplished
dusky geyser
Just read the latest chapter, holy shit Jobin is a savage.
proper ether
jobin got dad strength/reflexes/resolve/whatever you want to call it when a dad has survival instincts to protect offspring
dusky geyser
Menacing microwave.
burnt pagoda
hard counter to being slightly heated up is setting yourself on fire
minor ore
jobin is so badass
supple totem
I wish buff stands returned to jojo
burnt pagoda
you have fun fun fun
rain zephyr
Now hes dead dead dead
burnt pagoda
but now ,that daddy took the tbird away
burnt pagoda
paisly parks is buff
lilac pumice
Paisley Park is thicc
burnt pagoda
its a buffer ver of yashuoh
final hawk
there seems to be a trend with stand designs, a lot of them have wide shoulders* 
and skinny arms
dusky geyser
That and some of them look like robots.
burnt kite
@minor ore a prime example of stands changing with the users mindset is Koichi with his Acts. Usually you don't see many drastic changes in a character's personality so their stands don't change that much, or at all
dusky geyser
I wish there were more Act Stands.
burnt kite
Thats why I believe Tsuguri might be experiencing something of the sort
dusky geyser
I wouldn't be mad if there was a Paper Moon King Act 2.
burnt kite
That would be dope, I'd love to see that
dusky geyser
Maybe it's new form could be a more detailed origami frog.
supple totem
Origami army mayby
Like with harvest and bad company
Theres just so many diffrent origamis
minor ore
@burnt kite but those are acts, not ability changes within the same stand
and koichi's stand was an egg at first so I believe that it was bound to evolve
the only thing I can think of right now is star platinum / heaven's door (but those are implied, not officially in the manga/anime)
supple totem
Johnys wasnt an egg
minor ore
johnny got his stand kinda from the corpse parts, right?
and he didnt really undergo any personality changes
hoary sun
Tbh i thought paper moon king act 2 was happening when that gate closed on that little girl
burnt kite
Uh yeah, acts are ability changes connected to mindset changes, as you said Koichi's was bound to change because it was an egg, but he wasn't really meant to be a stand user, he would have died from the arrow without Josuke
So his case it a bit special
Nonetheless, I meant that Tsuguri might be getting something akin to an Act change, given how we're seeing him demonstrating what seem to be different abilities
minor ore
regardless of acts, are "internal" stand changes confirmed?
burnt kite
There's literally a stand stat called "Development Potential", younger users usually have a high potential of changing their views with age and maturity, so their stands would to, even if just slightly
minor ore
oh, right
proper ether
is tsurugi the only jojo character born after 2000? emporio might be around there too but we dont know his age
brittle blade
Paisley Park knows what is happening in area 51
olive fiber
The newest chapter was pretty fire
I’m enjoying Fun Fun Fun being back
Although he might be gone after Jobin got to him
violet coral
Speed King vs Fun Fun Fun
not something I expected but didn't realize I needed
olive fiber
Exactly
fast crow
isnt it like
void viper
that will probably happen
fast crow
killer queen?
void viper
I see what you mean
olive fiber
Like with the whole storing heat after touching things?
fast crow
yea
void viper
does it get hot later or does jobin choose to heat it up at a set point
olive fiber
It did give killer Queen vibes in that aspect
I think Jobin stops the flow of heat from higher to lower so it gradually builds up but he also seemed to be able to control where in the body it went
void viper
maybe he could control where in the body it went because he touched ojiro
we need to go back and look at norisuke's injuries
are there any burns
fast crow
like why was he in the body bag
violet coral
Well it's in the future, we can't say for sure he is dead
We can ASSUME he is dead, but at best mortally wounded
fast crow
i hope he isnt dead
olive fiber
Same
violet coral
Best dad
fast crow
olive fiber
LMAO
kind owlBOT
@olive fiber, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
final hawk
Maybe he is alive and Tsurugi is using his stand to make him look like he's dead just like last chapter*
Tsurugi might be tricking someone
void viper
he's tricking us 😳
proper ether
tsurugis real power is breaking the 4th wall
olive fiber
👀👀
void viper
nah that's wheel of fortune
like, only sort of kidding
ZZ did say "I did it, part 3 is over!"
void viper
yep
fast crow
these traps are getting me
void viper
lemme find the panel
fallen trellis
he said it in the anime too if that’s easier
fast crow
talking about tsurugi
fast crow
who was he fighting
fast crow
oh
void viper
*canon ending
hoary sun
I love araki so much just bc of that moment
minor ore
was this part in the anime
hoary sun
It was
fast crow
Can we all notice how tsurugi rhymes with my name
proper ether
its the work of an enemy stand
violet coral
NANI, STANDO?
minor ore
true junco
What’s the site where I can see the recent colored scans of jojolion
true junco
Thank you @minor ore
robust ibex
wait shit there are new colored jojolions?
violet coral
yeah Rai vs Urban Guerrilla
robust ibex
then where are the english translations then?
minor ore
Takes time
robust ibex
i'd take the easy route and just use the translations of the not colored jojolions
minor ore
Baby rock human
robust ibex
cute
minor ore
Colored adventure team only does it properly
robust ibex
well at least i got to see new jojolions colored
void viper
baby rock human looks like something from the binding of issac
robust ibex
mitsuba's stand better be green and yellow
void viper
I headcannon A3L as actually different shades of white
it's design reminds me of a big eskimo fur coat so I think it would be fitting
robust ibex
this is what i mean
now i could keep doing that until i get to the most current up to date jojolion issue colored
but that seems like a lot of work
and i dont have yen to spend
quite literally
plus the white boxes are ugly on the colored boxes
and they stand out
supple totem
For you to get those colored pages you have to pay?
proper ether
no
supple totem
Where did he find them?
proper ether
mangadex
proper ether
which chapter you need?
supple totem
I just want to read all the new colored chapters
Mayby i cant see them because they are not avaible in europe
Well
proper ether
they're not caught up currently, idk how far they are but I heard they're only around chapter 60 or something
supple totem
NORD VPN TIME
proper ether
this is the latest colored chapter
so they're only up to blue hawaii
which is like 20-30 chapters behind the most recent one
proper ether
wait I thought that was after blue hawaii? are they further than I thought?
proper ether
they need to update the blog then, says they're only up to blue hawaii
grizzled pilot
the typesetting group or the shueisha group