#jojolion

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viscid parcel
old marlin
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Funne

viscid parcel
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Inb4 jojolion is as long as other parts

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Combined

craggy belfry
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inb4 urban guerilla is obviously alt-Ciocolatta cause he has a ground swimming pet

old marlin
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I give jojolion at most 10 more chapters

viscid parcel
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What

craggy belfry
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I bet you 5 dollars we get more than 10

old marlin
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We're in the 80 chapters range at this point

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Ending at around 93 sounds good to me

viscid parcel
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How is it going to resolve anything

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In 10 chapters

old marlin
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10 chapters is about 300 pages

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You can wrap up the story atleast

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Idk about answering everything but it seems logical that you can atleast END jojolion

viscid parcel
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I feel like the first confrontation with the doc

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Where they know his identity

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Would be like half way

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Or 3/4ths

old marlin
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Currently We're 5 days away from the harvest of the fruit

craggy belfry
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nah bro Araki coming in to save the day I believe in him, I believe he'll give us answers, its gonna take more than ten chapters especially since he' been beating around the bush for the last 4 or 5

old marlin
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We've seen up to 15 minutes before the harvest but we made a jump backwards

viscid parcel
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Yes but it doesn't mean harvest is end all?

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They have to eat it

old marlin
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The fight for the new rokakaka could easily be the end all

viscid parcel
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That would be kind of unsatisfying

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I guess we have proof if how it works

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But surely that power would be used again.

minor ore
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ok one thing i don't get about johnny

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when his wife's disease transferred over to his son was that equivalent exchange?

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can jesus perform equivalent exchange?

craggy belfry
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I think so but I think it had to do with Love Train

minor ore
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so i'm guessing it hasn't been answered yet

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Didn't he get cursed for digging up the corpse?

craggy belfry
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it won't get answered

old marlin
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It 100% was equivalent exchange

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Atleast a form of it

craggy belfry
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equivalent exchange through Love Train right?

minor ore
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i thought love train deflected all misfortune? not sure how having your son get the disease isn't misfortune

old marlin
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Love Train wasnt exactly Equivalent Exchange

minor ore
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Love Train also doesn’t exist with Johnny

craggy belfry
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love train deflects misfortune and sends it somewhere else

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so to my knowledge I thought it deflected it to one of his family members

minor ore
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It was Love Train + Infinite Rotation + Jesus Powers

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I don't think you should look too much into the logic there, it's just a myth after all

minor ore
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what if ur right

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what if it really was a myth and johnny just died by getting crushed by a boulder

viscid lintel
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Johhny first rock human confirmed?

minor ore
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makes sense too, wasn't the corpse chamber supposed to be impenetrable

glass otter
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R o k k a k k a Fruit

knotty mango
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Can anything stop act 4 though

minor ore
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yes

mossy robin
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No.

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Tusk Act 4's purpose is to literally be a sword that can break any shield.

zenith shale
tender geyser
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Made in Heaven? GER? King Crimson? They seem like they could defeat Tusk Act 4 in my eyes

mossy robin
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Tusk Act 4 can penetrate stopped time.
It's safe to assume it can penetrate any other world-effecting thing like that.

minor ore
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diego stopped act 4 tho

mossy robin
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No he didn't. He redirected it.

tender geyser
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Epitaph by itself is enough to stop tusk act 4 really

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Diavolo can easily dodge all of his bullets

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And just because it could barely move in stopped time doesn't mean time skip/GER/MiH doesn't work

minor ore
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Act 4 and GER would negate each other

tender geyser
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Because tusk is infinity and GER just infinitely resets?

minor ore
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But both could win against MiH

tender geyser
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I don't see tusk beating MiH considering it relies on being able to shoot people

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I don't think Johnny has light speed reflexes

minor ore
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Doesn't Tusk have autoaim tho

tender geyser
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Umm

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Yeh it can control it's movements

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But i don't think they would be able to catch up to made in heaven

minor ore
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jotaro fair enough

mossy robin
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If Jotaro during Made in Heaven is any indication, Tusk can catch up to Made in Heaven.

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Remember: It can move in stopped time.

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And since Pucci can move very, very slowly during stopped time, or at least see, this means stopped time is actually just the user perceiving things and moving very, very quickly.

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Which means Tusk Act 4 is fast as FUCK.

minor ore
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Yeah but that was the first time only, then even the stopped time was speeded

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somehow

mossy robin
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Because Pucci was speeding up time hence straining the body of anyone stopping time.

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Even more.

tender geyser
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"If Jotaro during Made In heaven is any indication, Tusk can catch up to Made in Heaven"?

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Sorry I don't get how that's related

mossy robin
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Okay so his Timestop was shortened.

tender geyser
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Ye

mossy robin
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This means that stopped time is not time literally being stopped, but simply the user moving and thinking so fast that it happens instantly.

tender geyser
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His time stop was shortened since 5 seconds now took less time (like 1 second if that makes any sense). I get what you mean but I don't think time stop works like that

mossy robin
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It wouldn't take less time unless time was still moving.

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If it was literally time being stopped, then it would remain constant.

void viper
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reminds me of that theory where TWs time stop was literaly time stop but SPs time stop was just it going super fucking fast

mossy robin
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Quickman MM2.

tender geyser
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Time stop is equivalent to 5 seconds, so therefore, when time is sped up so is the time stop

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I'm explaining really badly I know but don't know how else to phrase it

void viper
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no I get it

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the concept of 5 seconds has been shortened

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so time stop still lasts 5 seconds RELATIVE TO THE UNIVERSE

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but relative to jotaro it seems shorter

tender geyser
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Exactly

mossy robin
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Then why wouldn't Jotaro's five seconds remain constant?

tender geyser
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Because time was sped up lol

void viper
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they do

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but he was percieving time as moving faster

tender geyser
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*it was moving faster

void viper
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same thing

tender geyser
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If Pucci sped up time by twice the speed, then "five seconds" would last 2.5 seconds

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However it would still be "five seconds"

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Because everything else is also changed relative to that, so 4 seconds would last for 2, 2.5 for 1.25 etc

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5 seconds doesn't just disappear

minor ore
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Would you guys classify JoJolion as "Vaporwave"?

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No, because that is a musical genre

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Jojolion is not music

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I mean aesthetically

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Does it have the same A E S T H E T I C ?

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Also no imo

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Hmm, thought i had something going on here, rip

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hey it’s just my opinion lmao i could easily be wrong

supple totem
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found this really cool theory of the head docters stand ability

minor ore
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damn jobin's backstory gave me the feels

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and then kaato's monologue about people rising up

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oof

minor ore
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Kaato is a gamer GILF

minor ore
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lmao

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How far is part 8s coloured releases?

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I'm just after the Doobie Wah fight

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Blue hawaii

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when do they stop in terms of chapters?

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ch 86

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coloured

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I for sure know 86 isn't coloured

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colored it's like midway through blue hawaii like that other guy said

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ch 62

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That other guy

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Thanks, mister

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aight. thanks

viscid parcel
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Its actually only 1 chapter

kind owlBOT
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@viscid parcel, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

viscid parcel
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of blue hawaii left

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after colored

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I read those this week

mellow idol
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Blue Hawaii hasn't been colored in like 5 months

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Just switch to black and white manga

minor ore
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any theories about the Head Doctor?

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he's 89

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also, his stand seems to do just what Rai said

rich hearth
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His stand is KC 2.0 because no one knows how the fuck it works johnnypatwoke

pulsar vine
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How long has JoJolion been going on?

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2011 fill present?

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If so, that must be the most agonizing 8 years ever

minor ore
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May 19th 2011

pulsar vine
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Christ holy shit

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I blasted through the translations I can’t imagine waiting monthly

minor ore
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same.

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but soon I will have to

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like every other manga nerd 🤓

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At least you're lucky, we are only two years away* from Jojolion's end

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will it actually end in 24 chapters though? No main villain which is fine I guess. But is it nearing a great conclusion?

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Considering how long something like D4C was

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Araki said we are on the climax

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hm

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So yes we are ending in the near future

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nice I guess. Manga won't go on forever

pulsar vine
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Bruh what the fuck or who the fuck is the main villain

kind owlBOT
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@pulsar vine, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

pulsar vine
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He’s gonna squeeze it in this late or this fast?

minor ore
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It’s most likely going to be someone we already know.

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There's no main villain, there are multiple groups fighting each other, this is what Araki envisioned for this part

pulsar vine
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I forgot her name, the mom maybe?

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Oh

minor ore
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Caato, Jobin, Tsurugi even.

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Plus, this part isn’t really shaping up for a singular main villain.

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It’s more a free for all for the fruit and the harvest, especially

pulsar vine
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I wouldn’t be mad or all that disappointed if there wasn’t a main villain

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I just wanna know how it emend

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Ends*

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I hope Yasuho and Josuke end up together 😭

minor ore
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I'm sure Araki will kill either or both of them to make us cry KakyoinSad

pulsar vine
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Oh fuck no I

minor ore
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shipping is yikes. but yeah if Yashuo and Gappy don't make a new jojo then I'm gonna be mad.

pulsar vine
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I haven’t thought of that 😭

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Pls I hope they don’t die

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I’m not into shipping either but like

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Dude they clearly are love interests for each other

minor ore
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It's not shipping they're straight up dating lol

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Well, kind of

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I wouldn’t say it’s official

pulsar vine
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They haven’t put a label on it yet 😤

minor ore
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but they obviously can be together if they just talked about it

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And they won't until Tooru gets Ora'd

pulsar vine
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I love love love Part 8 so much

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I really never thought I would have but I’m so glad I do

minor ore
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You should, I loved part 8 even more after the reread

pulsar vine
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Ah fuck it alright

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I haven’t even like

minor ore
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There are so many things you can point at that seem porpouseful after

pulsar vine
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Finished part 7 though but I genuinely can’t get into it rn

minor ore
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I really hope Araki recreates the seven page muda with Tooru.

pulsar vine
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I gravitated towards Part 8 more

minor ore
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We have barely seen him, and I already fucking hate his guts.

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That stand in the stairwell was definitely his as well. He’s doing some mind fuckery with our sweet, beloved Yasuho.

pulsar vine
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Do we have all the Joestars from 1-4 in Part 8?

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Or most of them represented in someway?

minor ore
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Yeah

pulsar vine
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I hope they don’t cram in Giorno and Jolyne in Part 9

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Or maybe we can get a dual JoJo

rocky charm
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Jolyne is Kaato. She got arrested and sent to Green Dolphin State Prison because a body was found in the trunk of her car

pulsar vine
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Wait what is that really the prison?

minor ore
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Ye

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It’s not the same obviously

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As Part 8 is in Japan but

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Same name

pulsar vine
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Yeah
I mean would that count as Jolyne?

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It could be the same as Morioh

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Like, just a place

minor ore
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It fits her opening

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That’s where we first see Caato

minor ore
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what chapter is that bandaged yasuho from again

pulsar vine
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I’m not sure but she’s with Tsurugi

minor ore
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I mean, even if this proves 'caato's jolyne counterpart' that doesn't mean we won't have a jolyne related by bloodline

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We got 3 jotaros so why not 2 jolynes

pulsar vine
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That’s true

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Damn compression aaaa

minor ore
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ngl when I first saw Kaato, I thought she was SBRverse Jolyne

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like the actual Jolyne

minor ore
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I'm reading Love Love Deluxe. The 1st chapter right after Doobie Wah and for some odd reason the info pages at the start of each volume decided to mention something I have never heard mentioned before.

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It mentions Josefumi as the man Kira was fused with but I have never heard his name mentioned before (I am aware it is the guy who looks like part 4 Josuke since I was spoiled)

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I'm guessing the reveal is in the vitamin c arc. Anyways it's weird GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

pulsar vine
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If Josefumi has a star, do we just assume Joseph in SBRverse was the one to commit adultery again or no?

primal grove
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well, you know what they say when you assume

pulsar vine
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Yeah I know

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Wait did Kira have a star too?

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He should have one

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I wonder why they never like

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Brought it up to each other

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I can only assume they have seen their stars

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Yeah right?

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Idk I guess it doesn’t matter that much anymore

primal grove
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yeah, kira also had a star

pulsar vine
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Or at least now

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When she was treating Josefumi?

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Maybe just ignorance I guess

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I’m not sure but it’s always kinda bothered me that Josefumi has a Joestar yet nobody has said anything

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I think it’s because Josuke found out his identities that it doesn’t matter anymore

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Or matter that much anymore

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I mean I would but with how the manga is going and what people are saying, I don’t think Araki would add it in anymore

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It’s just purely chasing Rokaka rn

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And it’s gonna shift into the main final arc

primal grove
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considering that araki literally just brought back someone that haven't been seen for the past 5 years

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anything is possible, i'd say if anything, it's almost certain that we'll get more information

pulsar vine
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Aaaaa man I was blessed to have gotten into JoJo this year but so cursed that JoJolion is my favorite part 😭

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We’re allowed to discuss spoilers here I thought

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Someone spoiled a big plot point in the SBR chat

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Afaik from what they told me is that you can’t spoil a part that’s after the chat you’re in

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Aka I can’t say a spoiler about Vento in diamond

primal grove
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yeah, this chat is 100% spoiler allowed

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since it's the latest part

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every month on the 17th-19th

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usually 17th, then we gotta wait for the translation groups

pulsar vine
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If JoJolion is the first part to have no main villain and it’s just about the mystery of the rokaka I wouldn’t be mad

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I just wanna know moreeeee

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Gimme gimme

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I feel like JoJolion so far has been so different it’s a bit okay

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Honestly I’m not sure

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I haven’t fully read 7 and I tried going through it to find someone but I couldn’t find anything

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At first I thought that the birthmark transferred to Josefumi’s body but Josefumi has the mark

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Did we ever see Kira’s birthmark?

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Or is it never explicitly shown

primal grove
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we saw his

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in a flashback

pulsar vine
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Kira’s?

primal grove
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yeah

pulsar vine
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Damn thank u

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I wasn’t like, trying to make my theory what’s it called

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Be correct it’s just what I thought at first

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I’m gonna reread JoJolion soon

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Probably gonna read it in tandem with SBR

primal grove
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another thing that's interesting is that the "bubbles" from soft & wet are also fused

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there's a page where it zooms in the bubble and they're split as well

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even the star in the bubble

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it's half kira's and half josefumi's

pulsar vine
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What other things in JoJolion we don’t know much about

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Is the curse of the Higashikata’s like, did it come from Johnny and the corpse parts or is it just from them?

primal grove
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well, his wife got the disease, and the corpse was literally in another continent

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so i don't think it's necessary due to johnny or the corpse

pulsar vine
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The Joestars are inflicted too right?

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Because Holly has something wrong with her too

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Also the way he transferred the disease to himself with the corpse part, is that the same as the Rokaka?

primal grove
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so far none other than the higashikata had the disease

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no one in the joestar side of the family had it

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and well, not exactly the same as rokaka, since there's no equivalent exchange

pulsar vine
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So the Johnny thing was a one time thing in that bloodline?

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Cause their kid got sick too right?

primal grove
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not really

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he used the corpse's power to transfer the disease soemwhere else

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except it went to his son

pulsar vine
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And he transferred it to himself no?

primal grove
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so he used it again + tusk 4 to make the disease go to himself

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but from that point on, no one but the higashikata's had the disease

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johnny and his kid only had it "briefely" and it was due to the corpse transfering it to them

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not "Naturally"

pulsar vine
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So what Holly has is just different?

primal grove
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no one knows that holly has

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she has pieces of her brain missing, how that conects to everything else

pulsar vine
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I did the equivalent of pounding 20 beer cans with JoJolion

primal grove
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is yet another mystery

pulsar vine
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Gonna take my time reading it

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Or take my time when I re read it

minor ore
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Norisuke is 59? the fuck

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dude looks 30 years younger

minor ore
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Perverted Holly is best Holly

mossy robin
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Hey remember the Doctor Wu procedure?

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What it prevented?

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"Rokakaka fruits taking a chunk of your brain."

minor ore
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he didn't seem to take anything here. Or does Gappy automatically know whatever information is inside his bubble?

spice crystal
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he used it to magnify

minor ore
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Gappy got some good eyesight

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but also I guess it sorta makes sense

minor ore
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Thicc

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Gappy has an encyclopedia memorised yes?

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I remember in the beginning he knew some random scientific trivia

wild oak
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should i just wait until jojolion is done to read it

mossy robin
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No.

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You'll be waiting until like.

wild oak
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2793

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in the year 3000 the jojolion villain is finally teased

granite pelican
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and its thanos

fallow kernel
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Part 4 Is better

mossy robin
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Arguably.

spice crystal
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and part 8 isnt finished

minor ore
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Says the level 1 troll

pulsar vine
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I love Part 4 and 8, they’re like my favorite parts along with 5

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But I kinda like part 8 more

minor ore
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HELL YEAH

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Part 4 was just a bunch of kids messing about for half the series

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I love it but you just can't compare it to jojolion

pulsar vine
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I loved it too but I just relate to Josuke 8 and trying to find the meaning of his existence and trying to learn and understand his past

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JoJolion feels very personal for the protagonist

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I hope that makes sense

tender geyser
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For some reason part 8 feels way more serious even though it really shouldn't be in comparison to part 4. Part 4 had serial killers from the very beginning, but most of the enemies in part 8 only want to kill the main cast because they have to

minor ore
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They don’t have to, they have reasons ya feel me

tender geyser
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most of them just seem to be covering their tracks and dont want rokakaka/rock humans to be exposed

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like i dont see them killing people unless they had to, not because they wanted to

minor ore
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It’s really fucking weird to me how Araki just created a whole other species of goddamn humans and it’s not even a big deal

tender geyser
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I mean we had vampires zombies aliens so rock humans isnt that big of a deal imo

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only issue is that they haven't been explained at all

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but you have sky rods in part 6 too and other really weird stuff like feng shui or whatever DD uses and cinderella face thingy

minor ore
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Well of course, but those have a tangible amount of substance to them in regards to why they exist

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Rock humans are just “hey we exist and have for hundreds of years”

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It’s very... odd to me

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It feels like there is a huge plot point that Araki is still withholding about their origin. Like I think it involves something in SBR.

tender geyser
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yeh most definitely

minor ore
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Like what’s the thematical reason for them existing

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I can’t figure it out

tender geyser
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and whats up with the Higashikata stone curse

minor ore
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Araki never has something that doesn’t serve a purpose

tender geyser
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thats probably turning them into rock humans or something

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or failed rock humans

minor ore
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But Jojolion honestly has like three of these

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At least so far

tender geyser
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I think its just because its the only part that hasn't finished yet

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like im sure there were many things in the other parts similar, but were revealed at the end

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apart from the guy who saved Josuke😳

minor ore
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I believe that was just a dropped plot point involving Bites the Dust

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But I also think it was just explaining why Josuke cares about his looks so much

pulsar vine
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I just want Yasuho and Josuke to end up together

minor ore
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I like that theory more than anything tab

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tbh

pulsar vine
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Didn’t Araki say that was never a thing in the first place?

tender geyser
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uhhh

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idk

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people just make up stuff about what he said for random excuses so maybe

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yeh from like 2 minute research Araki didnt say anything about it, so idk if he ever actually planned to do something

pulsar vine
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I wonder if like

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Idk how to explain it

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Do you think there’s a Rohan in this universe doing weird stuff too

tender geyser
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probably

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but the whole time line shifted in this universe because part 4 was in 1999 and JoJolion in 2011 so Rohan would either be in his like 30s or something

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or it might be a very different version, like Yasuho or how Kira is Jotaro?

minor ore
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Gyro and Kyo are Jotaro imo

tender geyser
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Gyro?

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yeh you're right about Kira sorry

minor ore
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I' d say the Rohan counterpart of this universe is either Jobin or Joshu

tender geyser
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but Gyro?

minor ore
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Gyro is def Jotaro

pulsar vine
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Kira, Kyo, and Josefumi were the idk representations of Jotaro in this universe?

minor ore
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He has the same catchphrases, and same demeanor and personality

tender geyser
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uh

minor ore
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He is just more open in sharing it

tender geyser
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that doesnt mean he is the alternate univese version

minor ore
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Jotaro would be the exact same if he was not so stoic

tender geyser
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since theyre not related in any way, dont look similar, dont have same plot or anything

minor ore
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It’s Araki’s second attempt at writing a Jotaro character. In my opinion.

tender geyser
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ye makes sense but i personally wouldn't say that he is the "alternate universe Jotaro"

pulsar vine
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I can’t see it sorry 😦
But I’ll keep that in mind when I re read SBR then

kind owlBOT
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@pulsar vine, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

tender geyser
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since he is actually alternate universe William

minor ore
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That I don’t see at all

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I always got the impression that Gyro was in the vein of character of Jotaro

tender geyser
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they have the same surname, serve same purpose as teacher to the main protagonist

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both die

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same time period

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both wear hats lol (same as Jotaro tho so doesnt count)

pulsar vine
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I’ve always got the impression Gyro was just a representation of William

tender geyser
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yeh

pulsar vine
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Since Johnny = Johnathan

minor ore
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I’m basing these off of personality, not only names and dates

pulsar vine
minor ore
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Gyro is a representation of Shiza

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You two don’t think Jotaro and Gyro share a similar personality?

tender geyser
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not really

minor ore
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no

tender geyser
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you dont see Jotaro making weird pizza raps

pulsar vine
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I just can’t see it I’m sorry

minor ore
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Exactly, I view Gyro as a more open, expressive Jotaro.

waxen token
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Aren't Kira and his sister are supposed to be Jotaro in SBR universe

tender geyser
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yeh

minor ore
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^

stark fossil
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Not even The Sun can be hotter than some of the takes here

waxen token
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They are Holly's kids

tender geyser
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and Joesephs grandkids and Johnathons great great grandkids

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i think blood line is best way to see who the actual alternate universe representations are rather than personality

primal grove
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Gyro is hol horse tunned up to the extreme. He couldnt be more different than Jotaro

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Unless you somehow think that jotaro and hol horse are similar

tender geyser
#

tbh he is not really like Hol Horse really in terms of personality

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they just both have the western/cowboy theme going for them

primal grove
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And the goofy ass attittude

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Hell, on hol horse's part of some interview with araki there's a part of him just adressing it

tender geyser
#

I feel like Hol Horse is just way too cowardly and only works with others, whereas Gyro is really selfless and brave and was happy to win the race by himself

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oh lol nvm then

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if he said in interview

minor ore
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They have the exact same pants and shoes

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Not even kidding

minor ore
#

wait

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who is that jotaro in part 8 that you guys are talking about?

tender geyser
#

Well Kyo is officially the alternate universe Jotaro in part 8

minor ore
#

Just because she has a hat?

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I think kira is more of a jotaro

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Certainly acts like it

tender geyser
#

yeh but Kira is alternate universe himself

old marlin
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Not at all really

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He mirrors Kira but he's far more closer to Jotaro in attitude and relation to the Joestars

tender geyser
#

yeh but he is still alternate universe Kira

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i try to equate one person to one original universe

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so saying that kira is kira and kyo is jotaro

minor ore
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Can’t believe I’m the only person who thinks Gyro is AU Jotaro DiavoloDying

old marlin
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I don't see why a character couldn't be inspired by multiple former characters but i see what you mean

tender geyser
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they can be inspired by mutliple yeh, but only the alternate universe of one specific person

minor ore
#

My dudes

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Jojolion kira is a hybrid of kira and jotaro

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Because he's the son of both's parents

fleet pier
#

yea

long flax
#

I hope something significant happens next chapter

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Like a new stand reveal or something

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Or the name for the last one they showed

minor ore
#

I wanna know more about Yasuho's ex

old marlin
#

I'm hoping for an Ojiro power up

long flax
#

If the name of his stand is really black hole sun, I'm gonna nut

old marlin
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There has to be a reason he's relevant again

#

Idk where that rumor even started

long flax
#

Lol

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The day the chapter came out someone said it on here

old marlin
#

But what evidence was there for that?

minor ore
#

where'd you get "black hole sun" from?

old marlin
#

It sounds like baseless rumors

long flax
#

And when the heck

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is the next colored volume coming?

old marlin
#

They dont have a scheduled release for when they release a Colored Volume

#

But again i would like to know what evidence that person had as to the name of Tohru's stand

long flax
#

I don't know

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I'm still holding on to the meme that the head doctor is old Joseph

fleet pier
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the evidence is that tooru has black hole things on his clothes that look like suns

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afaik that's literally it

long flax
#

And it would fit well

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lol

fleet pier
#

idk about that, never heard the song of course

minor ore
#

They look like flowers

long flax
#

Inb4

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It gets colored and he's actually green and blue or some shit

old marlin
#

Again it really doesnt hold any water

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I would bet he gets colored blue

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CA loves using blue for their characters

minor ore
#

Flashback to EoH gyro

long flax
#

How much longer you think until part 5 anime ends?

minor ore
#

it's one episode every week

old marlin
#

A few months

fleet pier
#

like 2 months or so

minor ore
#

we're at episode 31

fleet pier
#

not accounting for recaps

minor ore
#

it's gonna have 39 episodes

long flax
#

I can only imagine how good part 6 will be as an anime

old marlin
#

Yeah for now we can only imagine

long flax
#

Literally the only thing I really care about is the songs they use though

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lol

minor ore
#

Stone free should be called stone ocean in the subs

fleet pier
#

no

long flax
#

and we'll get the legendary flaccid pancake

minor ore
#

It still lets her have the badass speech about naming it

fleet pier
#

it kinda ruins her speech though

#

she wants to be free from the stone ocean, oh but now she is gonna name her stand literally after what she wants to escape from

long flax
#

I hate when people hate on part 6 lol

minor ore
#

What else is there to name it that makes some amount of sense though?

#

The subs don’t really matter though

#

We know she isn’t saying Stone Ocean lmao

#

The speech would still be as effective

#

yeah idk why it changed to the laughing emoji

long flax
#

I need to go back and read again

#

I started from the beginning and left off like 30% through part 4

minor ore
#

"I want to be free of this stone ocean, i'll name it granite of america"

long flax
#

But yeah

#

Anyone know who the heck this new guy is?

minor ore
#

?

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Who?

fleet pier
#

how about Rock Free

minor ore
#

Ojiro

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The Fun Fun Fun user.

#

That's the fun fun fun guy

long flax
#

Lol

#

Its been so long since I read the beginning

#

Why bring him back now?

minor ore
#

Istantly recognized his emblem

long flax
#

I didn't remember him

#

lol

old marlin
#

Possibly for his relation to Kira

minor ore
#

He brought back the wall eyes too, surely he has a plan to tie things together

old marlin
#

I know some people still want that mysterious man explained

long flax
#

yeah

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I was like

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Wall eyes oh shit

#

Inb4 next chapter they bring up the bite marks

minor ore
#

That's the only "araki forgot" moment that actually bothers me

#

I'm dying to know more about the teeth

tender geyser
#

Are we supposed to assume that every stand user in morioh got bitten at the wall eyes? Apart from rock humans

long flax
#

I just hope that like

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Some of the older characters get brought back

fleet pier
#

i just assumed people can still unlock stands naturally like the other parts

minor ore
#

Well, the only non rock stand users are higashikatas who live next to the wall eyes, all the other are natural users

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Kira and josefumi and ojiro etc

tender geyser
#

Ah I didn't realise there were natural users in SBRverse

#

Makes sense ty

pulsar vine
#

Yasuho didn’t get bit

long flax
#

Like

kind owlBOT
#

@long flax, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

pulsar vine
#

How do stands awaken in the alternate universe

long flax
#

These last few chapters have kinda felt the same with small important bits thrown in

minor ore
#

She did get bit

pulsar vine
#

She did??

tender geyser
#

Yeh

kind owlBOT
#

@tender geyser, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !

pulsar vine
#

Hmmm

tender geyser
#

Hence why she only got her stand mid way through

pulsar vine
#

Tsurugi

long flax
#

Such mystery

minor ore
#

All the higashikatas live near the wall eyes so they must have gotten bit too

old marlin
#

I dont believe any stand in the AU has ever been awakened naturally

pulsar vine
#

That wouldn’t make sense if the wall eyes are just the source of stand power

minor ore
#

What about uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh KIRA

pulsar vine
#

Unless it attracts people there

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Kyo?

minor ore
#

Kira had his since he was fucking 12

tender geyser
#

What about Kaato 😳 she natural born maybe? Or are we assuming she got bit just before meeting her family again

pulsar vine
#

Wait she’s near the household

minor ore
#

Kira is a natural user since childhood

fleet pier
#

isn't kyo the family maid

long flax
#

Tfw Kaato was only in 1 chapter

pulsar vine
#

Yeah

minor ore
#

Rock humans are natural stand users.

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Every single rock human has a stand

#

Bruh kira

fleet pier
#

todooo

pulsar vine
#

Man remember when Daiya wanted Josuke

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That was weird

#

Icky icky icky

old marlin
#

She still does

minor ore
#

The first two arcs of Jojolion = bad

pulsar vine
#

That’s his like adoptive brother and even then they’re related by marriage

tender geyser
#

She's the only character I'm glad hasn't come back yet

#

Like properly

minor ore
#

She had a cute moment with joshu

#

Vitamin C & Ozon Baby = best arcs in the series

old marlin
#

She's with Jobin idk

pulsar vine
#

I want more Joshu so I can see Joshu cry more

minor ore
#

so it all balances out

old marlin
#

Joshu i mean

minor ore
#

Waitwait

tender geyser
#

Best arcs in the whole series or just JoJolion?

minor ore
#

Fun fun fun is bad?

#

Bettle Tendency is the best arc in the series

old marlin
#

Yes

minor ore
#

MATE

pulsar vine
#

Why does Joshu have a cool stand

minor ore
#

It even shares name with the best part

#

The first jojolion arcs are so good

long flax
#

YES

#

Agreed

tender geyser
#

🗿when Josuke has a golden Lamborghini but not a driver's license

minor ore
#

HELL YEAH

old marlin
#

I'm lukewarm on the first 2 arcs

long flax
#

Its starting to get good again

minor ore
#

The whole series.

#

I’m being 100% genuine

long flax
#

We just need something to actually happen

#

lol

pulsar vine
#

I like the mystery of finding his identity

minor ore
#

It WAS good

#

Vitamin C & Ozon Baby are the top two arcs in the entire series

pulsar vine
#

Is the original universe just done

minor ore
#

Some people just didnt like the fruit stuff

pulsar vine
#

Cause there’s no more JoJo’s being named

minor ore
#

Yep

tender geyser
#

What do you mean no more JoJo's being named

minor ore
#

Irene broke the cycle

pulsar vine
#

Jolyne changed to Irene

#

Yeah

tender geyser
#

Oh yeh

#

Probably done

pulsar vine
#

The last JoJo in that universe was GioGio

#

Man I really hope we get an OVA for her

long flax
#

The only part

#

I wasn't a fan of was doctor wu

minor ore
#

An Irene OVA would be very boring I think, after all she doesn't have a stand and it's not like there's going to be any more enemies in the Joestars way

long flax
#

#bringbackhamon

#

LOL

minor ore
#

Although it'd be cute to see her wedding and Jotaro being a good father

pulsar vine
#

Yeah just a happy OVA

#

No need for like serious conflict

tender geyser
#

Plus I don't think that they would make an original OVA without original manga source

pulsar vine
#

I guess it’d be too fan servicey though

old marlin
#

Seeing AU Qtaro would be so weird

pulsar vine
#

If it wasn’t an OVA maybe an extended epilogue? Like the last episode just add Emporio meeting Jotaro since he’s riding with them anyway

tender geyser
#

Yeh that would be cool but what's the point lol

long flax
#

Remember beetle tendency?

tender geyser
#

I feel like it was better without him, since Stone Ocean was about Jolyne and her friends , not Jotaro

pulsar vine
#

Cause it’d be nice that’s all 😭

tender geyser
#

😓I feel you

pulsar vine
#

That’s true
Aaa I really want 6-8 animated but I know it’ll take ages

#

I wouldn’t be surprised if we got part 8 like around mid 2020sn

tender geyser
#

6*?

pulsar vine
#

Oh man I don’t wanna think of it like that

#

Lmao

tender geyser
#

Oh mid 2020's I see

long flax
#

Part 8 prob not until at list 2022

tender geyser
#

I think they will take a few years gap after part 6

pulsar vine
#

Hopefully it’ll finish by the time Part 6 is done airing

tender geyser
#

Maybe wait for JoJolion to finish depending

long flax
#

If it ever finishes

pulsar vine
#

It doesn’t feel like it’s going to end anytime soon

#

And if it does, it’ll feel like a rush ending but

long flax
#

I'm so frustrated though

pulsar vine
#

I won’t think of it like that until it does end

long flax
#

I want more

pulsar vine
#

That’s the only way I can imagine it

#

Me too 😭

#

I love JoJolion so much but I want an animation so bad

tender geyser
long flax
#

Nah

pulsar vine
#

The voices of Josuke 8 and Joshu in EoH is amazing to me

long flax
#

I just want the part to be done

tender geyser
#

Johnny Joestar shooting the manga so that it goes on infinitely

long flax
#

Can't wait to see naked Jolyne in the anime LOL

pulsar vine
#

Oh man the intro for Part 6 aaaa

tender geyser
#

Ty much better

long flax
#

I really want an sbr spinoff called Dio the Dinosaur

tender geyser
#

😏jokes on you losers I don't even watch anime

pulsar vine
#

What?! You don’t??

#

Dude they’re so fun

#

Especially part 4!!

long flax
#

I only watched up to white album on part 5

tender geyser
#

Yeh I don't watch any anime only read manga

pulsar vine
#

Part 4 was so easy and fun to watch because it felt like you could breathe without anything getting too serious

tender geyser
#

I have so much to read that I don't want to watch something where I already know what happens

pulsar vine
#

Aaa that’s true

#

I just tell my friends to watch the anime cause imo they’re more fun
I only started to read the manga cause I was bored

#

I’m glad I did though JoJolion is my favorite part

tender geyser
#

I got my friends to read JoJo but they all stopped at part 8

pulsar vine
#

Did you at least see the 7 page muda?

long flax
#

I only started reading cause part 5 anime didn't exist yet

tender geyser
#

Yeh I saw it

#

Pretty good but don't really like part 5 in general

long flax
#

I thought part 5 was the best but now I think it's decent at best

tender geyser
#

Lol I thought it was the worst but now I think it's decent

pulsar vine
#

My complaint about part 5 is that Diavolo

long flax
#

Holy shit though

pulsar vine
#

Wants to live a quiet life?

long flax
#

SBR anime give me now

fleet pier
#

um

#

no?

pulsar vine
#

I’m just joking but I don’t like his motivations

tender geyser
#

Why would Diavolo want to become the head of mafia which will obviously govern much attention

fleet pier
#

because he wants power

tender geyser
#

"hur duh I want to live on the climax"

#

He literally doesn't do anything with his life he's so sad

#

No friends

#

No family

fleet pier
#

and with the power of being the leader of a mafia, he can hide himself away even better and still get things done

tender geyser
#

Just hiding constantly

#

Yeh I think it would be easier to hide like Kira did

pulsar vine
#

But it looks like he’s always hiding regardless though

tender geyser
#

Also I don't understand what was so bad about people finding out who he is

#

It doesn't do anything knowing someone's name

long flax
#

Diavolo isn't bad but I think he's the weakest main villain character wise

pulsar vine
#

Yeah I think so too

#

He’s a really cool character and I love his design but, I don’t like his reasoning

kind owlBOT
#

@pulsar vine, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

pulsar vine
#

Or rather none of it makes sense to men

#

Me**

tender geyser
#

Nah don't worry it makes sense to no men either

fleet pier
#

Also I don't understand what was so bad about people finding out who he is
you uh... you do know that he's kind of insane, right?

#

I mean he's literally an alternate personality

tender geyser
#

Yeh forgot about that lol

fleet pier
#

few things should make sense about him

pulsar vine
#

But don’t you think that just, makes him overall like the weakest main villain so far(

#

As in motivations

long flax
#

What doesn't make sense to me is how literally they coulda whooped his ass way sooner if polnareff called jotaro and josuke over early on

fleet pier
#

he couldn't tho

tender geyser
#

I think that they said they were monitoring communications outside Italy

fleet pier
#

^

long flax
#

pfft

fleet pier
#

and also diavolo would smash both of them

tender geyser
pulsar vine
#

God King Crimson scares me

fleet pier
#

it's a terrifying stand

tender geyser
#

He's coming back part 8 confirmed

#

Josukes true stand is king crimson

#

It just works

minor ore
#

Unironically though

#

I think we’ll see King Crimson soon

fleet pier
#

i still doubt it tbh

minor ore
#

We have gotten Part 3 and 4’s main villain stands, and this Head Doctor’s ability is seemingly quite similar....

tender geyser
#

It unironically adds up

#

He's two people also like Doppio/Diavolo

minor ore
#

Plus the facetious inclusion of “King” in the Higashikata family stand names

tender geyser
#

The king bit in every Higashikatas name

minor ore
#

YUP

pulsar vine
#

Nut King Call I love the name

#

Hate Joshu

#

Not hate but I love to meme on him

fleet pier
#

the two people thing is literally different in every single way beyond surface level, though

#

so yeah I'd still doubt it

long flax
#

Remember when soft & wet could steal eyesight?

tender geyser
#

Why? It's still two souls in one body

stark fossil
#

What the fuck did you just fucking say about Joshu etc.

tender geyser
#

Doesn't have to fit exactly

minor ore
#

what are you talkin about

long flax
#

Shakedown road is one of my favorite arcs

#

And milagro man

minor ore
#

Nice joke

fleet pier
#

the difference being that josuke is 2 people combined, diavolo is a soul split from doppio's

long flax
#

No joke

#

lol

minor ore
#

Shakedown Road is very good

#

I didn’t like Milagro Man

tender geyser
#

I think Milagro Man would have been much better if had a better resolution

#

Like finding out who he was and Joshu defeating him

minor ore
#

Or not be filler lol

tender geyser
#

Lol

minor ore
#

That’s my main problem with it

#

It literally serves no purpose

#

It doesn’t even expand on Joshu, just makes him look more like an asshole

#

With one throwaway line at the end

tender geyser
#

I can't remember what Josuke was doing during that time

minor ore
#

It was in the 40’s right?

#

Which is right around fucking Vitamin C lmao

#

I remember them being close

#

But I could be wrong

tender geyser
#

Yeh it was just after vitamin C

minor ore
#

Which is goddamn absurd

tender geyser
#

I guess he just wanted a break before getting back to the serious stuff

minor ore
#

Vitamin C: Great arc, big old fucking pot of plot gold, great villain, ties up multiple loose ends
Milagro Man: Joshu, horniness, and money

tender geyser
#

Yeh like at least fighting beetles had a purpose relevant to the plot whilst stil being funny

long flax
#

Raise your hand if you thought Damo was gonna be the main villain

minor ore
#

The Beetle Fight was excellent

#

Had me legitimately hype

#

Jobin is my favorite character in the series too

long flax
#

Beetle tendecy yeah

hallow heath
#

People are saying that king crimson may be related to josuke or head doctor

#

but what if KC was Kaato's stand?

long flax
#

You guys think they'll be a part 9?

hallow heath
#

idk

tender geyser
#

I think Kaato has crazy diamond

long flax
#

Nah man

#

Kaato has d4c for sure

hallow heath
#

My reasoning for her having King Crimson would be because it has King in the name, plus remember when she kinda just poofed that furniture out of nowhere (seemingly from cards), what if that was just a time skip and she just dropped it on joshu while time was skipping

minor ore
#

But we know it includes the cards

#

Cause of the phone in the prison

#

It just came out of her card deck

hallow heath
#

i dont remember that tbh

#

lol

long flax
#

Thats literally the only thing i remember about her lol

hallow heath
#

i remember she dropped furniture on joshu

#

thats about it

#

i dont even remember if it was a chair or table

long flax
#

Give me new chapter

#

reee

fleet pier
#

yeah she pulled a phone out of the cards

long flax
#

I want a chapter where its not a chase scene the entire time lol

hallow heath
#

Satoru Akefu

#

Scary thing is theres too many main villain candidates rn

#

and Sasame just kinda joined into that

#

out of nowhere

long flax
#

Inb4

#

the main villain is actually all of them collaborating together

minor ore
#

Okay so you know how Paper Moon King basically makes everyone indistinguishable in it’s affect targets sight?

#

Sorry if I’m interrupting

pulsar vine
#

Do you think when we start getting the anime adaptions, Josuke 8 theme will be a remix of Josuke 4?

long flax
#

I hope not

minor ore
#

I want to know if it can be controlled so everyone would look like Will Smith

long flax
#

Im sick of hearing breakdown, breakdown lol

old marlin
#

Idk about yall but i really dont want a repeat of high voltage

long flax
#

XD

#

At the end of part 8 it'll be like, but it was I, DIO

old marlin
#

King Crimson coming back sounds dope in concept but i really don't feel like that'd be good this late in JJL

#

While i do really like High Voltage the suprise appearance of The World just felt cheap

long flax
#

Not a huge surprise though

#

I'm just sad gyro died right after getting ball breaker

fleet pier
#

I wouldn't say high voltage was cheap in any sense

#

the world was one of the best moments in part 7

stark fossil
#

Bring back the warudo was very cool but I'd rather he didn't bring back another final boss

dim junco
#

Milagro man’s arc ... imagine spending 2 months drawing filler

pulsar vine
#

it was fun wasn't that bad honestly

long flax
#

It's not filler if it's in the manga

#

lol

mossy robin
#

Milagro Man isn't filler.

minor ore
#

yes it is lol

#

how is it not

long flax
#

Because it's part of the story?

#

Then explain pearljam

#

Just because something is classified as filler doesn't mean its bad

#

To you

minor ore
#

we aren’t saying it’s bad

#

We are saying it’s filler lol

long flax
#

Yeah you did

minor ore
#

Please show us where we said that

long flax
#

Cause I said I liked it and you said you must be joking

minor ore
#

I was being facetious

#

Milagro Man is an interesting arc, but is still filler

long flax
#

ok google

#

Facetious definition

knotty mango
#

How was it filler it was an important piece of joshu and character change

long flax
#

Joshu's cool but he's kinda scary at the same time lol

minor ore
#

people be saying character development arcs are filler.....

#

Stardust Crusaders was 90% filler then

#

just watch the first three episodes then skip to the last three ones

tender geyser
#

You can have character development arcs within the actual story tho

#

Like basically all of part 7 with Johnny

long flax
#

Lol

#

My friend literally skipped all of season 2 of part 3 caused he called it filler

pulsar vine
#

At least it’s not like

#

Bleach levels of filler

long flax
#

Its not filler tho

brittle blade
#

Listen here buddies

tender geyser
#

For most of JoJo there is a lot of traveling around so "filler" character arcs are alright since still keep the momentum going because the characters are still slowly moving towards their destination but in JoJolion it was really aimless

brittle blade
#

When blue hawaii will get animated

#

People will love it

tender geyser
#

I don't see why they wouldn't. Is it supposed to be bad?

brittle blade
#

A lot of people hate it

tender geyser
#

Oh

brittle blade
#

It's in my top 3 jojolion fights personally

tender geyser
#

I dont remember that well but it was when people were being controlled to attack Josuke?

brittle blade
#

Ye

tender geyser
#

Yeh I think it's alright but there were definitely worse fights

#

Like doobie wah was pretty bad

brittle blade
#

I think my fav is wu tomoki or vitamin c so far

tender geyser
#

My fav is probably born this way

#

Or the brainstorm one

brittle blade
#

Brainstorm?

tender geyser
#

Uh the one where Rai was introduced

brittle blade
#

Aaah

tender geyser
#

With the guy and his pet

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Urban guerilla

brittle blade
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I remember now

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Uhhh that was good too

tender geyser
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I liked if because he pushed yasuho off the ski lift :)

brittle blade
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Whoa

pulsar vine
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He just has a crush on Josuke that’s why

brittle blade
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Hold your horse is dude

tender geyser
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Rai's eyes are only for Norisuke sorry

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He doesn't even like Josuke that much

pulsar vine
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He gets jealous of Yasuho don’t lie

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He only covers it up by saying he’s a main priority

tender geyser
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😳can't really argue with that

minor ore
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He's a good brojo.

pulsar vine
minor ore
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compilation of Gappy crying

tender geyser
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Blessed images

brittle blade
pulsar vine
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She’s such a blessing

brittle blade
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Totally

pulsar vine
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I want JoJolion to end already I hope it has a good ending 😭

brittle blade
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Im fine with it going on for a while

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But it would be nice to read forward

minor ore
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i hope yasuho doesn't die

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i'll be a very sad boi if anything happens to her

brittle blade
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Aaaaaah

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That would be fucking tragic

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New colored volume when

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There haven't been any since last autumn

pulsar vine
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Nooooo please I don’t want her to die 😭

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Josuke and her are so precious they’re so cute 😭

barren gulch
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first time in jojo history we have an actual couple

brittle blade
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Ye

barren gulch
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one that isnt a gay couple i mean

brittle blade
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Josuke is oficially the straightest character

pulsar vine
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But also

brittle blade
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Wait

pulsar vine
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The gayest /s

brittle blade
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What about erina

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Suzi q

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And jotatros ex wife?

pulsar vine
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That ranking JoJo video was funny

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Key word being

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Ex

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He’s in love with the sea

barren gulch
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erina? what are you talking about

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johnathan's lover was dio

pulsar vine
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Dip loved Jonathan very much

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Dio***

brittle blade
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Also johnnys wife

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Besides gyro

pulsar vine
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Yeah but Josuke has like

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No homoerotic tension between anyone

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Maybe with Rai

long flax
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We all know Johnny was gay

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He gotta get them steel balls

brittle blade
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Jolyne dated a trans guy

pulsar vine
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He’s tempting Gyro cause he knows he a snack

long flax
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The thing is though

kind owlBOT
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@long flax, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

long flax
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Without the steel balls he wouldn't feel anything down there

brittle blade
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You mean

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Without cream starter

minor ore
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Damn he’s thick

brittle blade
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Is dating trans people straight?

minor ore
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Uh

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Idk

brittle blade
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I mean that wouldnt be a turnoff for me but im gay

minor ore
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Does that belong here tho

brittle blade
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Not really

minor ore
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lmao

minor ore
knotty mango
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Yasuhoe

minor ore
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dirty hoe

pulsar vine
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Can’t believe she dated a fuck boy smh

minor ore
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literally dating two guys

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thats haram

long flax
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No that's a threesome

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I think

minor ore
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if yasuho bangs josuke are kira and josefumi both cucking each other or being cucked simultaneously

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or would the condition of being cucked and not being cucked cancel out leaving us with an indifference to cuckoldry

brittle blade
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But

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Why is her mouth white?

minor ore
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that's just some shitty coloring i pulled from google

minor ore
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Kira's body is dead and buried underground wity no balls, she's just gonna be banging josefumi's mutated body

long flax
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How did four balls even happen

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Wouldn't it be half of each ball forming one?

minor ore
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Because araki wanted him to have four balls

minor ore
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lul

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@minor ore oh my God the colors in that are totally fucked up

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oh you already mentioned that

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I'm of no use.

pulsar vine
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I think that’s from fan colored releases

minor ore
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I remember a bunch of really wild kira fan colors

old marlin
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Orange Kira

knotty mango
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Orange BIRA

hallow heath
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One thing that just keep bugging me about this part whenever i reread it is this

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because its just never explainedwhat the hell this is

minor ore
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Quite literally

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Another reason that arc is hot garbage

old marlin
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Early Paper Moon King usage? shrugred

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Even though it's not what PMK does at all thats the only bs i can think of off the top of my head

minor ore
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Tsurugi is in the cellar basement at this point @old marlin

old marlin
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Fuck true

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Then idk honestly just bs araki did so jousuke would fuss over daiya

minor ore
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Yeah it quite literally makes zero sense

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Maybe if California King Bed had appendages

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But we know it’s appearance is a fucking pillow

maiden barn
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How close is part 8 to being finished, currently in the middle of sbr so I'm just wondering if I should start right after I finish part 7 or wait till part 8 finishes

waxen token
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probably a couple years away from its end, but tbh, no idea