#jojolion

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analog ether
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I mean

brittle blade
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I also realised that early

analog ether
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That secret is reveealed the very chapter he's firs included in

brittle blade
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at the fortune teller arc

analog ether
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it wasn't exactly a big secret

craggy belfry
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but some people still get confused

spice crystal
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it was still confusing for the first half of the arc

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the anime did it better imo, but that was clearly araki's intention

craggy belfry
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and enthusiast has some pretty good reasoning skills considering his norisuke theory

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hey wait how long ago did you read part 5 for the first time

brittle blade
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me or doppio enthuasiast?

craggy belfry
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doppio enthusiast

spice crystal
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8 months?

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ive reread it like 6 times tho

brittle blade
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I started the day when episode 8 of the anime aired

spice crystal
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actually, how long has the anime been running

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from episode 1

brittle blade
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and finished when episode 10 aired

spice crystal
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because i started day 1 of the anime after i watched the first episode

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because i loved giorno so much i couldnt not

brittle blade
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I was still catching up on the anime when episode 1 came out

spice crystal
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i finished part 4 the week before VA aired

craggy belfry
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the anime aired in october

brittle blade
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damn watched the first half of part 3 in 2016 and the second in 2018

spice crystal
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alright boys, im gonna have to dip because im farming d2 shit to get this weapon so ill be chatting inconsistently

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i read the whole of jojo in a month and a half

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about

limber bison
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when I finished Part 4 i had to read everything after that

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just recently caught up to JJL

tender geyser
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😳how have you already reread it like six times

spice crystal
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i really like part 5

brittle blade
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I read half of Stone Ocean in one sitting

limber bison
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Same

brittle blade
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I'm quite proud of that

limber bison
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Stone Ocean flew by

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just laid down and read it on my phone

brittle blade
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But I forgot to drink and eat that day

limber bison
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lol

brittle blade
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It happens quite often

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I just never feel hungry

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And I forget to eat if no one reminds me to do so

craggy belfry
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eat right now

brittle blade
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ok

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quite a number of my friends say that I'm probably autistic and this is also a trait of autism

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so it would make sense

spice crystal
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get urself diagnosed

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very helpful

brittle blade
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I'm planning on going to therapy but that's because of my shitty mental health

fleet pier
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i need therapy too tbh

spice crystal
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do some good for yourself

minor ore
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Wtf is the latest chapter

brittle blade
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yes

minor ore
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OJIRO IS BACK

brittle blade
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ye

minor ore
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Glad to see my precious jojolion is finally getting some well-deserved love

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Felt like everyone was endlessly shitting on it

craggy belfry
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some people still are and they will until its finished and they decide to finish it

analog ether
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I feel like a vast majority of part 8's criticisms won't be relevant when it actually finishes

minor ore
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What about the stuff like saying post-damo is bad?

craggy belfry
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they might claim its slow and say some shit like its only good in the third act like stone ocean even though its leagues ahead of taht

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post damo picks up right after blue hawaii so that's not valid its just opinionated

analog ether
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A lot of that had to do with the monthly wait, I'd say
If you could read all the post damo fights at your own pace, then i don't think the fights would be too bad

minor ore
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Blue hawaii i felt was really entertaining to see just how gory it can get, some of that shit was so brutal.
The only fight i kinda disliked was doobie wah and even that had its redeeming moments like when the user gets hit by the bus

stark fossil
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I haven't read the latest chapter yet but they bring back Mr Fun Fun Fun? That's wild

minor ore
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They also bring back another crucial plot detail

stark fossil
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Not only does he look younger as he gets older but his memory improves? Wtf is his biology

craggy belfry
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I didn't have a problem with blue hawaii aside from the fact that how it worked wasn't consistent despite being present for only a few chapters

stark fossil
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K I'm leaving the channel no more spoilers for me

minor ore
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You should read asap dude

old marlin
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Okay damn i barely read the chapter but what the fuck man

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What the hell is Ojiro doing showing up out of nowhere

minor ore
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Araki never forgets.

old marlin
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Why is he black now

analog ether
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He was always tan, wasn't he?

old marlin
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With plus signs in his hair ot whatever

craggy belfry
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no I don't believe he was tan I recently read the chapter

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let me double check

minor ore
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He's a surfer ffs

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It would be weird if he DIDN'T have a tan

old marlin
craggy belfry
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he got tanned thanks Araki

analog ether
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He's darker here, isn't he?

craggy belfry
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the question is it real or artificial

old marlin
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Before he was barely ever shown as anything but pasty white and he was a surfer all of his damn life

minor ore
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so guys give a synopsis, what do you guys think will happen next chapter

old marlin
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Josuke dies

craggy belfry
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which josuke?

minor ore
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and is head doctor and tooru fucking

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??

old marlin
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Yeah

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To what dop said

minor ore
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Josuke being a grade A badass

old marlin
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I still wanna believe that somehow the head doctor isnt actually a real person

minor ore
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yeah that too

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guys someone will die this part

old marlin
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Either hes real or his stand is a teleporter

minor ore
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: (

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No one but shigechi died in part 4 so i dunno

old marlin
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All we know about whatever is attacking them right now is it seemingly pushes you

minor ore
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i just really hope yasuho doesnt dine

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die

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im fine with josuke dying, cause it would work well

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Oh she will die

old marlin
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It pushed that guy and his already broken neck just snaps out of place

craggy belfry
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but she's the NARRATOR she can't die

minor ore
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when she dies josuke will snap

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She's not the narrator anymore

old marlin
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Yasuho better not be just some fucking plot device man

minor ore
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have a mental breakdown actually

old marlin
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Shes undeservedly put through the wringer

minor ore
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The new narrator says these cryptic lines at the beginning of each chapter

craggy belfry
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😦

old marlin
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Chase the future

craggy belfry
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Araki straight up DISRESPECTING Yasuho

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Chase the Light

old marlin
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Yeah yeah

minor ore
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Yasuho is probably not gonna die tho, josuke will either die during the final battle or die in the equivalent exchange to save holly

old marlin
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What he seeks is strength

minor ore
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Joshu is gonna respect josuke and vow to protect yasuho

craggy belfry
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IMO it's gonna be underwhelming when Holly is saved because even when Araki does bring her back we never got attached to her when we were supposed to or atleast I didn't

minor ore
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And then part 9 starts with a battle hardened joshu

old marlin
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As they approach the abyss they search for the other side

craggy belfry
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Yasuho x Joshu becomes CANON

minor ore
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do you guys really think araki will ever write a 9

analog ether
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You're assuming that Holly is going to get saved

minor ore
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my hopes are low but i know he WANTS to

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Oh definitely

craggy belfry
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its possible but its really up to speculation more than anything

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I don't think he'll quit manga though

minor ore
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jojolion is at what chapter now

old marlin
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Shes gonna get saved

craggy belfry
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87 I think?

analog ether
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86

minor ore
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i literally forgot the chapter

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Part 9 is a guarantee, part 10 is impossibpe though

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already

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Araki likes his trilogies

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so thats like how many epsidoes

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for anime

old marlin
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20

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Something

minor ore
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1, 2, 3, and 4, 5, 6 all tie in incredibly well

forest timber
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I do think a part 9 will happen bc trilogies but not 10 for sure

old marlin
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Alright

minor ore
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Depends how long the episodes are

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7 and 8 obviously have huge connections

craggy belfry
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no way to tell honestly because SBR hasn't been animated and that would give us an idea of how much would be adapted

forest timber
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yeah

old marlin
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Well actually about the episode thing

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DP's usually adapting 10 page chapters 4 at a time

minor ore
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Do you guys think for SBR and JJL we'll get 30 minute episodes?

old marlin
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But isnt alot of jojolion like 40 pages

craggy belfry
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yes

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and yes

minor ore
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so

old marlin
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1 episode a chapter??!?!??

analog ether
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you mean 20 page chapters?

minor ore
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that leaves it 16 chapters

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so each chapter now is

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let me do the math

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hold

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Chapters in 1-6 are around 20 pages each

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Chapters in 7-8 are 40

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Doing the math is hard, the anime for SBR is gonna eat shit big time if it gets the pacing wrong like in part 3

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how many pages are in a chapter

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40

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Around that yes

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okay

analog ether
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It isn't consistent though

minor ore
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Yeah

analog ether
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Some are as high as 50 and others are as low as 25

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but 40 is the average

minor ore
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thats 3480 chapters

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i mean

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page

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pages

old marlin
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÷ by 4 or 5 i guess

minor ore
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yeah that math isnt right

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696

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and im in calc lol

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oh they do 40 pages per episode

analog ether
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No

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20 Pages per chapter in parts 1 - 6

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4 chapters per episode on average

minor ore
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The pages were inconsistent in pre-sbr too though right?

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kk so

craggy belfry
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I don't think they were as drastically inconsistent if they were but I don't believe they were unless absolutely necessary

minor ore
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they would do 2 chapters a episode

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And they animate by chapters not by pages iirc

analog ether
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Likely, yes. Maybe 2 and a half

minor ore
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so around 40 episodes

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so it will be long as expected

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Seems about right

analog ether
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Hmmmm

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I don't know that doesn't sound right

minor ore
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I'd wager a little above that tho

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Like 42 or 43

analog ether
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I feel like SBR was a good bit longer than the other parts

minor ore
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how long would SBR be

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42 episodes

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I'd wager

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id say they would push for 49

craggy belfry
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absolutely no way SBR would be any less than SDC

brittle blade
spice crystal
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they will run for 4 cours

minor ore
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i did 155 for vento and devided by 4 and i got 38.75

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so DP is right on the dot

analog ether
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Part 5's pacing has been superb

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I hope that's the pacing the other parts go with

minor ore
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WHAT

brittle blade
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I'm still advocating for sbr to have 39 one hour long episodes that come monthly

minor ore
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Nah

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No

spice crystal
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part 5 has had perfect pacing throughout

minor ore
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Absolutely not

craggy belfry
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MONTHLY ARE YOU INSANE?

minor ore
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Yeah

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Wtf

craggy belfry
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maybe biweeklly

minor ore
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i wouldnt mind it

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arakis art style changed again

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and its more compex

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complex

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1 hour episodes too, dude that's way too insanw

brittle blade
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also horses

minor ore
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1 hour episodes i would totally fuck with

brittle blade
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do you want cgi horses or not?

old marlin
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Stardust was 152 chapters long ranging from 10 to 20 pages

analog ether
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I wouldn't care honestly

minor ore
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@minor ore they animated the rohan ovas in that style, it's not that hard

analog ether
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That's also an OVA, which they had much more time for

minor ore
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Not really

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The animation is pretty basic

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im almost 18 now, its going to be so weird seeing jojolion animated when im like 25

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i should take a snip of that for the future

brittle blade
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i want purple haze feedback ova in part 8 style

minor ore
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and print it

craggy belfry
brittle blade
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just for the fuck of it

old marlin
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Blue hawaii guy is still alive right

brittle blade
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yup

craggy belfry
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yes

old marlin
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Or am i remembering wromh

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Oh sweet

brittle blade
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this chapter was crazy damn

minor ore
brittle blade
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i want Kyo

minor ore
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Wait guys

craggy belfry
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ok I'm confused are you referring to Star Plat

minor ore
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Nah fun fun fun

old marlin
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Magicians red

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Oh

brittle blade
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that's speed king

craggy belfry
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^^^^^

minor ore
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Speed king has a great design honestly

brittle blade
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ye

minor ore
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Extremely scary too, especially in black and white

old marlin
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Opinions Opinions what can i say
Opinions Opinions theyre not okay
Opinions Opinions theyre not for me
Opinions Opinions

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Someone finish that

minor ore
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Kaato helps Ojiro and that lady invade Higashikata house with her card stand (hides them in), sets up fun3 for Ojiro and Mitsuba dies, Jobin witnesses that and goes berserk with full power from speed king

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My theory rn

old marlin
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What if Kaato could just do that

craggy belfry
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THERE'S 2 C-MOONS?????????????

kind owlBOT
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@craggy belfry, Your Stand Power is now level 20 !

minor ore
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Why would she help them though?

analog ether
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I just want more joshu tbh

minor ore
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Maybe they in turn help her defeat Norisuke

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Kaato always had jobin's best interest in mind, she wouldn't just kill his wife who he loves very much

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Hm true that

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O well

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I'm thinking ojiro's stand evolved and so has his personality

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Notice how he's not a total creep

brittle blade
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what is up with ojiros fingers?

minor ore
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Kira forced him to eat them

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And he got new ones

brittle blade
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what

minor ore
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Kira was a badass

brittle blade
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i dont remember this

minor ore
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It's a small detail honestly

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All the more amazing how araki included it

craggy belfry
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it was one of the reasons Ojiro went after Kira in the beginning, because he made him eat up his fingers

brittle blade
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wait a sec

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fun3 is just garbage green day

analog ether
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no?

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If anything it's garbage justice

brittle blade
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but really which volume is when he eats his fingers?

craggy belfry
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when Josuke captures and he confesses why he went after him I think chapter 6

sour raptor
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@minor ore please don't use slurs

brittle blade
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oh shit

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I can't say slurs?

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this is fucking stupid

lapis relic
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the boy josuke getting cucked hard

viscid lintel
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Can someone explain how Awaking lll leaves works

grizzled pilot
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manipulates vector space

minor ore
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One thing I noticed is that they mentioned the wall eyes

minor ore
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Also Ojiro’s eyes are the same as Kaato’s

old marlin
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They finally mentioned the wall eyes after like 30 chapters of it being forgotten

analog ether
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I'm more curious as to whether it will actually do anything though

robust ibex
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so new chapter this month?

craggy belfry
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new chapter came out today

robust ibex
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it did?

craggy belfry
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yup

pale moon
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is it translated tho

minor ore
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Obviously

pale moon
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woop woop

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lets go

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is this the same guy as the one that wanted to take revenge on kira

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or is this a different dude

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cuz he mentioned surfing

craggy belfry
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same dude

analog ether
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Yes, it;s the same guy

pale moon
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alrighty

rich hearth
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I love the little text in the corner that says “is he a man of the jacuzzi” lol

grizzled pilot
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i'm reading some older JJL again and i just noticed something

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these gulls in Killer Queen and Vitamin C

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are the same one buccellati was talking about in Mystery of Soft Machine

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(or the arc after it or whatever)

minor ore
placid gyro
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that power

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the stand power

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is actually kinda cool

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forcing people to tunnel vision

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also Araki Remembered ™

spice crystal
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yall rly doubted araki

craggy belfry
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AN 89 YEAR OLD MAN

spice crystal
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smh

craggy belfry
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HE'S 89 YEARS OLD

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I CAN'T BELIEVEN AN 89 YEAR OLD MAN MADE ME TRIP ON A FUCKING UMBRELLA

old marlin
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Inb4 head doctor is the stand

minor ore
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Guys

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Is that surfer

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With fun fun fun stand?

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At the end of a new chapter?

old marlin
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Yes

minor ore
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He just got more of a tan

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He also seems to have crosses on his hair

minor ore
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Oh my

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What a foolish boy

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Fate give him a chance

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To survive

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We all know that Gappy is the destroyer pf the worlds

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And he kills everyone who opposes him

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Even Jotaro’s kill count is not so large as Gappy’s

granite sedge
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I can't believe Araki actually remembered the Fun Fun Fun guy.

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I think most of the readers forgot about that guy.

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I'm convinced Araki actually did something like writing down the plot details and what he wanted to be relevant. That's the only explanation for him remembering people like Ojiro and Mitsuba and having them be presumably relevant to the story.

kind owlBOT
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@granite sedge, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

spice crystal
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why are people so shocked that araki has basic writing skills lol

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like 'haha araki forgot' is such a meme at this point that people omit the fact that araki does do this shit, extremely successfully, for a living

placid gyro
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cause we all think Araki has transcended beyond needing basic writing skills

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so when he displays some signs of humanity we are shocked that he has humbled and lowered himself to out level for a bit just so our puny pea-sized brains can comprehend his omnipotent intellect

spice crystal
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woke

granite sedge
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Araki is a great writer, but it’s pretty well-known that he genuinely doesn’t have the best memory of what he’s written sometimes. Even he’s admitted it in the past. I think the reaction people are having (myself included) is less out of derision of Araki’s writing abilities and more people being proud that he seems to be getting better about a known issue with his writing.

spice crystal
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the general sentiment (in jojolion especially) for araki forgetting is literally just an overreaction to the fact the part hasnt fucking finished yet

placid gyro
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Araki forgot that stories need to end

cinder nebula
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It's probably going to end in a year

late beacon
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Every time you say that jojolion is near the end he adds 10 more chapters

craggy belfry
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that makes it even BETTER

late beacon
summer tree
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guys what if

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what if for Jojolion

void viper
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yeah?

summer tree
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Araki is just trying to make us think he forgot stuff

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when it's just a ploy to like

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turn the tables on us

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I mean Araki has mentioned his bad memory in interviews before

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he's completely aware that he has it

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so what if he's trying to trick us this part and then just slowly mindfuck us when he doesn't forget anything

unkempt blade
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when they talk about the umbrella stand i have to remind myself no they are not saying the umbrellas have stands

minor ore
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Araki planned this for 30 years

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he used to fake forgetting things just to do this

soft raptor
minor ore
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There's no fucking way this ends in a year

crystal patrol
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I just read the new chapter

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Araki, why are you showing Fun Fun Fun guy again?

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It’s been years

minor ore
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nobody saw that

void viper
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I did

minor ore
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is it true

void viper
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you posted a picture of damo with "this guy must have a massive penis, it's the only explanation"

minor ore
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I’m being framed

crystal patrol
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Wel

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Considering the latest chapter

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Araki might remember to bring her back

minor ore
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I’m almost caught up

crystal patrol
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Ahhh

minor ore
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I’m kinda starting to like joshu

crystal patrol
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Joshu’s...well, he may be a degenerate, but I enjoy his character

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Nut King Call has one of the best designs, don’t @ me

minor ore
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remember that Joshu is a great character with a terrible attitude with Yasuho and Josuke

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when they are not around he is amazing

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yeah actually

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he can be pretty annoying around them, especially with the whole jealousy thing

viscid lintel
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That mans Nekk

minor ore
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lmao

craggy belfry
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TBH of all the characters I don't think Araki actually FORGOT Kyo I think he either A) didn't think of doing anything with her or B) couldn't figure out how to integrate her ability into the group
But I do wish she'd come back, it's hard for me to believe she's forgotten though since she appeared almost everytime the family is shown

analog ether
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SO far

soft raptor
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And part 7

void viper
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that's mostly jotaro's fault though

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so it's not like it's a different charicter

soft raptor
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He's not a main villain

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Fair enough

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !

soft raptor
void viper
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foe

minor ore
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is this guy meant to be like a joseph and josuke mix? the name is kind of like joseph but he looks more like josuke

analog ether
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His very literal translation name is "Josephmi"
And he does look like Josuke
So imma say yes

void viper
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josefumi means "seed of jo" I believe

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Seed of jo
seed of joseph
joseph's son

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"mix" is a weird way of describing offspring but fairs

summer tree
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although

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didn't they retcon Josefumi's birthmark

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like it appears in a photo during the Kaera arc I think

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but after that

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there is not a single panel with his birthmark in it

analog ether
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I just think we don't see it again
I don't think it was retconned
like I don't think we ever see Kira's birthmark again either

summer tree
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but like Josefumi's shoulder is very visible so idk

analog ether
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There are plenty of panels where Josuke' star isn't drawn either

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so idk

summer tree
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it's just unlike that

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we only have ONE CASE of Josefumi's star

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and ONLY one case

minor ore
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I mean, there are multiple joestars we didn't ever get their birthmarks in manga so

analog ether
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that doesn't mean we should assume it's been retconned

minor ore
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I don't think it's been retconned

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Kira is the true part 8 jojo don' t @ me

summer tree
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if we see another panel of Josefumi with his birthmark

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then I'll take it back

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but so far we just have the ONE

minor ore
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... but Giorno only got shown once too, was that retconned then?

analog ether
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And Josuke (4) was never shown (in the manga)

minor ore
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Also, Johnny's birthmark was never shown

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So maybe we should be asking if the Joestars even have birthmarks in this universe

minor ore
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Johnny' s birthmark was shown

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When?

old marlin
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The star wasnt a thing until part 3 and it was retconned into previous parts

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Johnny also never had his shown yet Jousuke and Kira has

summer tree
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I mean that also depends on how much of their shoulders are shown as well

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Josuke never took his jacket off

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but like with Josefumi

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he openly has an outfit that shows his shoulders at all times

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not all Joestars were shoulder revealing outfits

minor ore
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Is this still ongoing?

void viper
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yes JJL has not finished

zenith shale
minor ore
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OJIROOOOO

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In a church?

analog ether
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Where did you get this?

zenith shale
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Hack

minor ore
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Why is ojiro in a church

zenith shale
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Araki studio

forest timber
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We have the real araki right here

minor ore
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Honestly i'm just stunned at the environmental detail

zenith shale
old marlin
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Ay come on

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I dont wanna see raw spoilers

hushed rover
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We don’t know if the star mark in the SBR universe works the same way like the original JoJo universe yet

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In fact the only time we’ve seen it at all in this universe was on Kira

old marlin
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And Jousuke

minor ore
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is that from next month's chapter? damn

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i wonder what's ojiro going to do now this late into the part

zenith shale
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maybe

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there'll be the manga exhibition in London next week

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and it just an artwork for it

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but who knows

minor ore
#

why would araki draw Ojiro from all jojo characters tho

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i'm confusion KakyoinSad

zenith shale
minor ore
#

How do you obtain all the things you do early? @zenith shale

zenith shale
#

Japanese tv

minor ore
#

Ohhh interesting

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Even the Jojolion stuff?

#

Specific pages are teased beforehand ?

zenith shale
minor ore
#

that thumb is cursed

hushed rover
#

Anyone else feel like yasuho got kidnapped by tooru after their encounter this chapter?

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I mean the last panel that showed them was eerie as fuck

minor ore
#

They're probably going to hang out where Tooru told her while Rai & Josuke try to corner the HD

hushed rover
#

17 page Josuke beatdown of Tooru when

minor ore
#

Hopefully soon

hushed rover
#

Most of the pages are just going to be filled with bubbles lol

minor ore
#

god i can’t fucking wait for Tooru to be completely obliterated

#

I hate this fucker so much words simply cannot due my emotions justice

craggy belfry
#

I just want to know his stand name

hushed rover
#

He’s probably going to be a perverted cioccolata

minor ore
#

How many chapters has he fucking been in?

hushed rover
#

I think 5

#

but he gives off really creepy vibes

minor ore
#

God I hope Araki does his fight justice

#

He has to have one

hushed rover
#

Reminds me of the second Darby in Part 3

craggy belfry
#

I think he APPEARED 8 chapters ago though

minor ore
#

I want a whole chapter dedicated to Tooru’s soft & wet beatdown

craggy belfry
#

you know I was just on google looking at tooru and somebody ALSO compared him to D'Arby so you're onto something

minor ore
#

THATS what Jojolion should end on

craggy belfry
#

well actually the first D'Arby so nevermind

minor ore
#

fuck the fruit fuck the harvest

#

just end with Tooru dying

hushed rover
#

Then josuke and yasuho get together at the end of the chapter with a brief glimpse of joshu crying in the background

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I have a strong feeling that the higashikata family will be essentially locked in a civil war against each other once they all find out about the fruit

old marlin
#

The way you feel about Tooru is exactly how i feel about tsurugi

hushed rover
#

I kinda want joshu to be antagonist because honestly, he’d actually be pretty cool as an antagonist

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Plus he already kinda is one after letting milagro man suffer the curse again

zenith shale
minor ore
#

Reminder that Damo was killed ~7 days ago and Caato was released the day after, the moment the Rokakaka will be harvested will be ~12 days after Damo's death

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From Ch47 to Ch86 it's only been 7* days in manga time

craggy belfry
#

how long was it from chapter 1 to Jobin's return home

minor ore
#

In the first hald of Jojolion we don't get any indications of how much time passes, but we know that from chapter 1 to 47 there's 6 months

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Rn we are in mid february of 2012

granite torrent
#

how do i read up to 86

#

my manga app and jojos colored are both still at 62

minor ore
minor ore
#

imagine Josuke beating the shit out of Tooru for like 15 pages

old marlin
#

Well steely dan was 4

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Ciocolatta was 7

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The logical next step is 10 for tooru

minor ore
#

Steely Dan was 3 iirc

old marlin
#

Then 11!

warped locust
#

"Dumb guy gets pussy " staring Josuke

minor ore
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"Know your place,Tooru....a girl like that is too good for a man like you"
"WHA-"
"ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAIRAORAORAORAORAORAORA"

quiet bear
#

Uu tomoki, wu tomoki now woo tomoki, make your decision translators

kind owlBOT
#

@quiet bear, Your Stand Power is now level 17 !

spice crystal
#

wu tomoki never fails

grizzled pilot
#

Wu tomoki

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it's the reference

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i think

stark fossil
#

That final message in the latest chapter cracked me up

#

As far as I can remember that is the only time one of those messages has been helpful in any way

void viper
#

what the "friend or foe" thing?

stark fossil
#

No the is he a man of the land thing

void viper
#

ohhhh I get you now

#

I usually just gloss over those tbh

stark fossil
#

They don't really add anything except for this one

void viper
#

Depending upon how you read it it could imply he might be a rock human

#

it's a stretch though

stark fossil
#

Can rock humans eat rock

void viper
#

might be cannibalism

stark fossil
#

If he ate his own fingers it was cannibalism whatever species he was

#

The second part of this amazed me because not only did it bring back something from TEN YEARS AGO (no one should question his memory any more, just believe in him) but he wants to start another subplot this far into the story

soft raptor
#

Dinosaurs can Smugechi

stark fossil
#

The iron gates crushed Mina-chan because she was pursuing the Head Doctor 😭

zenith shale
#

Wtf

#

Why they removed stand pic

ionic valley
#

It's probably easier to format it like that

viscid lintel
#

Umbrella stand?

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My ass gotta catch up

zenith shale
#

Black hole sun is umbrella stand

viscid lintel
#

How recent is this I can’t even find it on the wiki

minor ore
#

Ice gets leaked stuff before it releases

zenith shale
#

🤔

viscid lintel
#

ICE teach me ur secret

zenith shale
viscid lintel
#

Hmmm

#

What am I looking at

spice crystal
#

tooru's stand

viscid lintel
#

Is it a helmet?

soft raptor
#

I still think that its Tooru's stand making things crash into them

#

HD gonna save his stand for later jotarosweat

viscid lintel
#

I’m so confused

#

So do we know what his stand is?

kind owlBOT
#

@viscid lintel, Your Stand Power is now level 23 !

minor ore
#

Huh, weird they removed that pic but it doesn't add too much

#

We already knew how it looked like

viscid lintel
#

So what is it

minor ore
#

We still don't know, probably either Tooru or Akefu's stand

viscid lintel
#

Like does it have a form

#

That we know of

fleet pier
#

that's what that picture is of, yeah

#

remember that stand that was behind gappy

minor ore
#

Yes we saw it's whole body

fleet pier
#

it's got elbow blades too

viscid lintel
#

Oh so it’s that “ambushing stand”

#

I feel likes it’s the head doctors stand

true junco
#

Probably it is his stand

craggy belfry
#

they probably removed it because people made fun of the faces in in text bubbles in SBR

#

then again the formatting thing is probably a better reason so they can get the chapter out as fast as possible

old marlin
#

I stg if they change his name from Wu Tomoki

craggy belfry
#

its quite likely since everything about him is mysterious despite his identity being out in the open

minor ore
#

Does anyone remembers the rumors about Tooru's stand being called Roxy Roller and the old geezer's being called One More Red Nightmare?

craggy belfry
#

I do not

minor ore
#

I saw someone say it on the server some time ago

old marlin
#

I dont see any credence to that unless someone said it as if it was a leak

supple totem
#

@zenith shale is Black hole sun the name of the head docters stand?

#

im confused xd

kind owlBOT
#

@supple totem, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !

mossy robin
#

We don't know the name of the Stand.

supple totem
#

what was ICE referring to when he said that?🤔

old marlin
#

No clue

minor ore
#

Baseless speculation the Japanese fandom made

#

afaik it's all rumors, it's never been named

supple totem
#

kk

brittle blade
#

My name is Satoru Akefu. I'm 89 years old. My house is in the Northeast section of Morioh, where all the Villas are, and I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but seriously 89 years!? I work as an employee for TG University Hospital, and I get home by 8:09 at the latest. It is medically inadvisable to smoke or drink, especially if you want to live to be nearly ninety. I'm in bed by 11, and I make sure to get eight or nine hours of sleep, no matter what. After running down several flights of stairs and doing about twenty minutes of stretchers before going to bed, I usually wake up several times to use the restroom before morning. Just like in 1930, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told at my last check up that I'm 89 years old, huh? I'm trying to explain that i'm a person who wishes to live a very long life. I choose not to trouble myself with any numbers, like 88 or 90, that would cause me to lose hair at night. This is how I deal with aging, and I know that is what brings me longevity. Although, if I were to fight, I would be... Yeah, 89 years old.

old marlin
#

Ok

burnt kite
#

How the fuck is Satoru still considerer a "minor character" in the wiki?

viscid lintel
#

Wait a sec

#

Isn’t the Head doctor 89

fleet pier
#

yes

mossy robin
#

Because he's a very small man.

fleet pier
#

hey he's decently sized

hushed rover
#

Inb4 head doctor is johnny’s son who went through multiple equivalent exchanges

hushed hemlock
#

inb4 head doctor is the actual JoJo of this part

waxen token
#

What is the amount of time between SBR and Jojolion?

hushed hemlock
#

time for another 30 volumes

#

1890 to 2011, i not math good

hushed rover
#

@waxen token jojolion takes place in 2011, while SBR takes place in 1890

#

so many centuries after

waxen token
#

Ahhh

#

Yes

#

Thank you

hushed rover
#

Jojo part 9 gonna straight up take place in 2090

#

A cyberpunk jojo part would be dope

minor ore
#

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 9: 2077

granite torrent
#

wait

#

theres a stand called black hole sun now

#

dope

minor ore
#

Unconfirmed

old marlin
#

Literally no evidence is backed on it @granite torrent

#

Its just random speculation

granite torrent
#

ah

#

i like that song a lot though so

zenith shale
#

I too

rocky charm
#

fuvking

#

There's a line on these eyes

#

Like Jousuke

#

He might be a fusion?

#

But he also has the triangle

#

So SBR-Verse Diavolo time?

fleet pier
#

that triangle is just a stylized light reflection, y'know

rocky charm
#

Is it?

fleet pier
#

yeah

#

i can bet diavolo isn't the only person in the series to have had them at one point

rocky charm
#

Anyway, next point is

#

Fun Fun Fun guy just became important

#

This guy said he knew Kira...

#

But he's not the guy in Jousuke's flashback

#

There's also the fact that that symbol looks a little like his eyes

craggy belfry
#

but he did know Kira

rocky charm
#

He did know Kira

#

So is this guy going to be an 'Ally' or an 'Enemy'

#

Wait a fucking second

#

I'm an idiot

craggy belfry
#

probably an enemy remember he wanted to kill Kira? Now he's with some women who wants the Higashikata's gone

rocky charm
#

The girl said his name's Ojiro

#

This is Fun Fun Fun's user

craggy belfry
#

yes I thought you already pointed that out?

rocky charm
#

No I just saw the symbol and thought he was connected

craggy belfry
#

ah

rocky charm
#

He looks very different, now that he's tanned up and shirtless, so I thought it was a new guy

primal grove
#

DIBBO

#

DIBBO BRABBO

minor ore
craggy belfry
#

this was a few chapters ago but I didn't notice this

#

I'm also wondering why the quality of the newer photo is so much lower but that's probably because the newest scans are rough

minor ore
#

... didn't we already all discuss this?
Kyo wasn't deleted from the actual photo, it was just a representation of the Higashikata Family through Tsurugi's eyes

#

It was during the narration of Tsurugi's evolution, so Araki most likely reused that image to represent the family, and since Tsurugi doesn't have any real relationship with Kyo it makes sense why she doesn't appear

craggy belfry
#

if we discussed it, I wasn't present

minor ore
#

And the photo quality is low because it's not a cover page like the original

craggy belfry
#

I don't see any why Tsurugi would have no relationship with Kyo though, unless Kyo hasn't been around that long which would make sense

minor ore
tender geyser
#

Why would he even love Josuke though?

#

Knows him less than Kyo probably

supple totem
#

who?

tender geyser
#

Tsurigi

#

If it's supposed to be people that Tsurigi loves/has a strong relationships with in the photo, then doesn't make much sense for Josuke to be in it

supple totem
#

he sneeked in on the pictureGappySurprised

minor ore
#

Kyo is just treated as a common house maid, we don't ever see her interact with the family on a personal level

supple totem
#

she sneeked as wellBOI

minor ore
#

Also, Gappy's appearance in Tsurugi's life did have an impact so it'd make sense for him to be there

tender geyser
#

When have they actually had a positive interaction ?

minor ore
#

Look at all the shit that happened just because Gappy joined the family

#

I'm not saying it's positive, i'm saying there is at least some relationship there

tender geyser
#

Yeh but you can't say that and then just dismiss that there was no relationship with Kyo

#

Obviously Norisuke liked her enough to even let her be in the photo in the first place

minor ore
#

Why would the creepy 9yo have any relationship with a maid, she's not relevant and could be replaced any time just because

tender geyser
#

Uhhh because she would probably help him with stuff?

minor ore
#

We never got any indication of that happening, but it could

tender geyser
#

Pretty sure she lives in their house too

minor ore
#

Still, this is all baseless and the only fact is that Araki made the choice to represent the higashikata family in this specific narration that way

tender geyser
#

Yeh I get what you mean, but I just still think Araki forgot / purposefully retconned the photo

craggy belfry
#

I just hope she comes back

#

I really don't think Araki forgot her of all characters I'm just scared he doesn't like her

stark fossil
#

We are in the post-Araki Forgot era now

#

Watch him bring back plunder for the final fight

#

As a power upgrade that's not even an upgrade

old marlin
#

Thats a nice thought

#

Buts its only been 1 chapter so far

limber bison
#

ClappingL Araki Remembers ClappingR

minor ore
#

wow the guy is back

#

araki remembered 2012

#

this is a miracle

upbeat hazel
#

Araki never forgets GappySurprised

minor ore
#

Baraki

upbeat hazel
#

🇧 araki

kind owlBOT
#

@upbeat hazel, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !

upbeat hazel
#

kono powa

minor ore
#

What's your favorite mortal kombat stand user

#

baraki

minor ore
#

When in jojolion does it say kira has a green fetish

limber bison
#

wh

#

what

#

oh okay he just

#

his favorite color is green and he only eats green foods

#

man, i entirely missed that

minor ore
#

Me too

#

Only discovered it thanks to a meme

#

Where he has a boner when looking at green things

#

Thanks lad

#

when the fuck does it mention he only eats green food

#

Does he mean green as in organic vegetables or just green colored foods?

#

🥗 🍏 📗

limber bison
#

green colored.

#

they don't source the green food thing

#

lemme go ahead and dig in the manga rq

limber bison
#

@minor ore

#

@minor ore

mossy robin
#

Green food time.

minor ore
#

Thanks lad

#

Doing god's work

primal grove
#

i mean, if you open a cabinet and the whole cabinet if filled with say, red apples, does that mean he only reads apples or red food?

#

why the fuck did i say read apples?

minor ore
#

Read apples

primal grove
#

probably mixed "eat red apples"

fleet pier
#

i like my apples like i like my books

knotty mango
#

Grey!!??

#

What the fuck kinda apples you eating?

minor ore
#

Monochrome apples

knotty mango
#

Also i found this while rereading part 8

#

only stands can harm stands

#

Am i right

fleet pier
#

yeah some of us talked about that yesterday

#

same panel too

knotty mango
#

@old marlin stole it

minor ore
#

Araki disregarded stand rules looooong ago, for the better imo

knotty mango
#

This is a different universe so maybe different stand rules

fleet pier
#

theory is either: BTW is partially physical because it rides a bike for some reason, or josuke just had soft & wet's foot poking a little bit out of him

limber bison
#

well to be fair it's not just green apples, it's a large variety of different green foods

#

and only green foods.

knotty mango
#

Maybe BTW is a physical stand like surface

#

Remember surface

#

I dont

fleet pier
#

@knotty mango the stand rules were defined in part 7 btw

#

remember that list i posted?

knotty mango
#

Hey quick idea here if surface could copy someone who could stop time

#

Could it kove in stopped time

fleet pier
#

surface can't copy stands

knotty mango
#

Nah but it can copy jotaro

#

And jotaro can move in stopped time

fleet pier
#

that doesn't give it any of his abilities

#

jotaro can move in stopped time because of his stand ability

knotty mango
#

Well thn would jotaro be standing still because surface is still?

minor ore
#

Use surface to copy a pillar man

fleet pier
#

that's arguable

knotty mango
#

Use surface to copy ultimate kars

forest timber
#

Use surface to copy surface

stark fossil
#

If a Stand can hit a person nothing is wrong with a person hitting a Stand

fleet pier
#

that's not how it works

knotty mango
#

It was said they couldnt thoguh

#

Lmao

fleet pier
#

^

#

it's literally said that only stands can hurt stands

stark fossil
#

Hurt

fleet pier
#

the actual rule doesn't say hurt, I guess

#

one sec

stark fossil
#

It says harm doesn't it

knotty mango
#

So far tbj i really dont like 8

#

Im only reading coloured btw

fleet pier
#

"stands can only be affected by other stands"

minor ore
#

I mean it already got contradicted with BIG

limber bison
#

there can only be one stand to one user

knotty mango
#

AHAHHAA

fleet pier
#

BIG's point is that it breaks all the rules

minor ore
#

notorious c h a s e

limber bison
#

like almost all of these rules are broken

knotty mango
#

A lot of stands break rules

#

It doesnt really matter

limber bison
#

in one way or another

stark fossil
#

Affected

fleet pier
#

most bound stands break a bunch too

knotty mango
#

Araki should just throw the rules out

stark fossil
#

Wow

primal grove
#

stands follow the rules unless otherwise specified

fleet pier
#

^

primal grove
#

not that hard of a concept to grasp

fleet pier
#

thank you jam

stark fossil
#

I think it's probably not worth posting these rules any more

minor ore
#

these rules only apply to manual stands

knotty mango
#

No.

minor ore
#

Well then they're not rules if you can break them at a whim, eh?

fleet pier
#

no

#

they're still rules

minor ore
#

stands like polpos stand dont follow these rules

knotty mango
#

That was never stated it says stands not manual stands

primal grove
#

they're still relevant for your general stand

limber bison
#

they're more

stark fossil
#

Because we've already had the rule breaking conversation

limber bison
#

guidelines

fleet pier
#

they're more rules

minor ore
#

also stands in sbr universe dont follow the same rules

fleet pier
#

no they do

knotty mango
#

The thing here is that these rules were found out by bucciarati and all the gangs so they figured it out themselves which means they arent set in stone

stark fossil
#

They're rules in the sense that everything Araki said in Manga in Theory and Practice are rules

knotty mango
#

Jefe post list

fleet pier
#

these rules were made during part 7

minor ore
#

oh

#

nvm then

fleet pier
#

like i literally got these rules from a part 7 chapter

#

really weird chapter I'll admit

knotty mango
#

The rules were figured out by all of the respective gangs and their stand interactions

#

Which means they are just what our protagonist thinks a stand is bound too

#

Look at it like this

fleet pier
#

um... several of these were mentioned in part 3, idk why you're talking about gangs?

knotty mango
#

The rules couldnt have just fallen from the sky and told to the first stand user right?

minor ore
#

Stardust gang

fleet pier
#

well they definitely fell out of the sky in terms of this list

knotty mango
#

The stardust gang and all previous stand users had to figure out what limits therere are

stark fossil
#

STARDUST GANG

STARDUST GANG

minor ore
#

Stardust gangsterst

#

Fred durst joins the stardust gansturst

knotty mango
#

]nope the stardust gang and joseph must of figured it out through experience

stark fossil
#

Yeah like they realised Stands aren't about breathing

knotty mango
#

Meaning those rules atent infalliabe

stark fossil
#

Joseph projecting his Hamon rules onto Stands lul

minor ore
#

The user not affecting another stand rule should just be retconned out imo

stark fossil
#

We've had enough retcons

minor ore
#

Makes for much more entertaining fights

stark fossil
#

I can't take any more

#

We should just pretend the list doesn't exist

knotty mango
#

All stand rules should be thrown out imo

minor ore
#

Yes

knotty mango
#

They arent really rules just guidelines

#

What if someone wrote jojos bizzare adventure in jojo

#

Then bohemian rhapsody was used

#

Would the stands that collide sponge or

fleet pier
#

would sponegbob sponge

knotty mango
#

If an alternate spongebob hit apongebob how would would he spong

#

E

minor ore
#

If a jojoke is made about jojolion is it a jojokion¿

knotty mango
#

Whats bohemian rhapsodys copy rightname

#

#

Bohemian melody

stark fossil
#

Gypsy Song probably

knotty mango
#

That’s terrible

#

Jesus

stark fossil
#

I aim to please

#

It's probably not that

#

I don't think it's been given one yet

minor ore
#

Does he have a green fetish tho or is he just into green foods

stark fossil
#

I think it's just a Popeye reference pure and simple

minor ore
#

He eats spinach tho not peas

stark fossil
#

But Popeye's not Japanese

#

Like how 4kids characters eat doughnuts instead of rice balls

#

Or something

minor ore
#

I'm sorry, what?

stark fossil
#

I don't know

#

It's canned and it's green

#

Maybe spinach isn't really a thing in Japan

#

So Araki gave him a more appropriate canned green food

minor ore
#

Or he's just dirt poor

stark fossil
#

But he owns a villa

minor ore
#

Villa? Isn't it a flat?

stark fossil
#

Personally I hope eating a whole can of peas is how he gets the Soft and Wet power upgrade to win the last fight

limber bison
#

also it's not just peas

minor ore
#

Apples

stark fossil
#

I mean Popeye doesn't have to just eat spinach

minor ore
#

Wait wait

#

He drinks [Green Tea]

stark fossil
#

Actually it must have been a flat

#

Maybe I got mixed up with the Kira speech

#

Cos he lives where all the villas are

minor ore
#

That's part 4 kira

stark fossil
#

Something made me think he was doing well for himself anyway

#

I know but I'm saying I must have got mixed up

minor ore
#

Imagine at the end of jojolion josuke now lives in his shitty flat because he knows who he is now and has no reason to live with the higashikatas

stark fossil
#

Josuke will move into an igloo made of green food packaging

minor ore
#

Tfw you realise soft and wet can perform silent bank robberies

dusty totem
#

softo and weto

minor ore
#

YUS

dusty totem
#

Okay, serious question

#

If part 4 and part 8 josuke have different stands, is part 8 josuke not josuke?

minor ore
#

I mean, part 8 Josuke isn't really a biological descendant

#

So that explains why he doesn't have Crazy Diamond

#

Actually, the only time we've seen CD in this universe was in a graffiti

#

Part 8 josuke is not part 4 josuke, not even related remotely

#

araki did the kira and josefuumi thing so well

#

That's the easy answer

primal grove
#

he is only called Josuke bcause that's the name of Yasuho's dog

minor ore
#

I just finished that part and wow

primal grove
#

it was literally "you remember me of my dog, his name was Josuke, i'll call you that from now on"

minor ore
#

I love them as much as Johnny and gyro tbh

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the way he goes beteeen past and present works so well

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I hate and love that Ojiro is here

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It’s Chapter fucking 85 and we are still getting major players added to the fucking story

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Like the woman Ojiro was with

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She wants that land like a villain

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She's fat, like a certain other villain...

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I wondeerrr

dusty totem
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Wait im confused

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If part 6 is in 2011

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When is part 7?

minor ore
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PART 7 AND 8 ARE IN A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE FROM PARTS 1-6

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THAT ARE NOT RELATED

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1800s iirc

dusty totem
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Ooooohk

primal grove
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1890

dusty totem
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So 1-6 is same universe

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7 just yeets on back

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And 8 isnt the same universe

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Okie

minor ore
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8 is with 7

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8 and 7 are in their own universe

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So nothing that happens in part 1-6 relates to 8 and 7

grizzled pilot
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7 and 8 are different universes is a galaxy brain take

minor ore
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I meant that are in a different universe

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I now realize I worded it wrong

grizzled pilot
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:v

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all good

minor ore
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PART 7 AND 8 ARE IN A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE FROM PARTS 1-6

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hoes that

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how’s

dusty totem
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Okay

grizzled pilot
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no lets think about this. could SBR and jojolion be in different universe?

minor ore
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Ffs

grizzled pilot
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this solves born this way kick form yesterday

dusty totem
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Oml

grizzled pilot
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different universes. different stand rule

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what could this mean

primal grove
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well, gappy summons soft and wet like 2 pages before the kick

grizzled pilot
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that could also solve it. but that's boring. here's my alternate solution to the problem

dusty totem
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Wait... Josuke 8 = gappy?

grizzled pilot
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yes

dusty totem
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Hmmm

grizzled pilot
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he's nicknamed "gappy" because he didn't have a name at first and because of the gap between his front teeth

dusty totem
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Oh

minor ore
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I love and hate Jojolion

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Nothing is ever explained

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You should just read sbr and jojolion my dude @dusty totem

dusty totem
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Yeah

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Im only caught up to part 4 tbh

minor ore
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But the art and characters are some of the best in the series

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I guarantee you they're a good read

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Better than parts 1-6

limber bison
dusty totem
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Wait, part 6 and past i have to read right?

minor ore
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yes

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Yeah, if you want to jump right into sbr it's possible

dusty totem
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Okie

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I could just skip to SBR since its a different universe

minor ore
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Yeah

dusty totem
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The series surely has earned the name of a bizzare adventure XD

limber bison
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honestly, if you want to just watch the anime for part 4 then go ahead and skip to 7

minor ore
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oh just wait till you get to part 8 and find out what bizarre truly is...

limber bison
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part 4-5

minor ore
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Do I hear p a r t s k i p p i n g ?

limber bison
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Nah

dusty totem
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Part 4 was pretty hot

limber bison
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it's different than normal part skipping

kind owlBOT
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@dusty totem, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

minor ore
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Wait it's part 6 ur good

dusty totem
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My fav part so far tbh

limber bison
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part skipping is skipping like.

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1 and 2

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if you skip to 7 because you don't want to spoil the anime

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then that's fine

quiet bear
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there isnt a way to debunk that 7 and 8 are seperate unvierses

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becase johnny had his story in it

dusty totem
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If you skip 1 and 2, you wont understand half the stuff in part 3

grizzled pilot
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exactly

minor ore
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Part skipping, memes aside, is not that bad since jojo was made so that each part is a good starting point

grizzled pilot
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not really