I just realized that we're set to get a new episode and chapter on the same day
#jojolion
storm temple
Indeed
void viper
It’s good Friday as well IIRC
brazen niche
What if Kars is the main villain? Being in space, he wasn't affected by all that went down in part 6, ended up in a black hole, looped back to Earth but in the past and he's the origin of the stone people.
mossy robin
But the whole universe was affected by MiH.
The sun literally belted across the sky.
wicked lark
stone people
mossy robin
I am a Rock.
brazen niche
Maybe the earth was spinning really fast like in the superman movie
mossy robin
We see a galaxy like three times, so it's implied MiH effects more than Earth.
void viper
No no no nO
THAT SCENE IN SUPERMAN PISSES ME OFF WITH HOW MISUNDERSTOOD IT IS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
mossy robin
Kars, if he's living, would be safely transported to the Ireneverse.
void viper
Ghiaccio rant time
minor ore
“But the blades on the new stand’s arm!!!”
minor ore
It’s definitely Tooru’s
void viper
My moneys on it being tooru
minor ore
anyone that thinks otherwise is smoothbrained
void viper
I’ve never heard that insult before
minor ore
Why else would it target Josuke, who didn’t do jack shit
it’s one of my favorites @void viper
minor ore
The head doctor and tooru are related tho
The chapter is 1 day away so let's make a bet on it
I’ll delete my discord account if it isn’t Tooru’s stand
I will uhh...
Post poopy things
vore
mossy robin
I've seen worse.
Post your face.
That'll really leave a mark.
mossy robin
You sent jack shit and it wasn't even directed at you.
minor ore
I was joking my friend, and I have sent in ghost alley since some others did, got no problem with it myself
minor ore
@mossy robin love me
mossy robin
No.
brazen niche
Some people are just full of themselves.
minor ore
😔
mossy robin
We're through, I told you.
It's over, Todo.
fleet pier
@mossy robin love me
mossy robin
Bandwagon.
fleet pier
speedwagon*
mossy robin
You and the WiFi ruined my joke.
minor ore
Beetle.. please come back.
How am I supposed to pay off the mortgage?
I can’t support seven kids by myself.
mossy robin
You'll have to find someone else.
I'm sorry, but we don't have a spark anymore.
We fight every day. The kids are scared.
Can't you tell?
fleet pier
hey todo, I can pay off your mortgage
i am a dogecoin investor
minor ore
It’s the long hours at work. That boss of yours makes you stay late all the time. I can’t handle it anymore. I guess we are through. I’m taking the kids with me.
I’ll ask Mark if he can help me, he is a much better man than you!
mossy robin
I did it for the betterment of our family. I need the money.
I was dedicated. A promotion was headed my way.
But you didn't care.
minor ore
When the family never sees you is it really for the betterment of the family? Or is it for your selfish desires to move up in the corporate ladder? You don’t even tell me goodnight anymore.
mossy robin
You're sleeping by the time I get back. I at least give you a good morning kiss, but you're sleeping for that, too.
minor ore
Of course I am always sleeping. You’re never home to take care of the kids! Who makes all seven their breakfast, lunch, and dinner? ME! You don’t even go to Claire’s soccer games. You’re too busy slaving away at work at the low chance they look your way for a promotion.
mossy robin
I am the hardest working one there. Of course I'll get the promotion. Then, I'll be able to easily support the family. Don't you get it? Then we can go on vacations and all of the fun things families do..
rich hearth
fleet pier
minor ore
New chapter hype lads
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !
minor ore
How long? How much longer will I have to go to sleep worried if you make it home safely? How much longer do the kids have to live in a nearly-single parent household? We miss you, but you’re never here. Is that promotion more important than your family?
mossy robin
This will only be but a blip. Then we can go back to the way things used to be. We can be happy again.
minor ore
Was it you guys who pointed out the Josefu - Joseph
Mi - seed, fruit
Thing?
fleet pier
no
minor ore
You’re right, I love you. We’ll get through this together. I’ll never doubt your commitment to the family again. You’ll get the promotion in no time honey.
void viper
What on earth did I walk in on
minor ore
Well apparently Mi can meet fruit or seed in Japanese
Making Josefumi the fruit or seed of Joseph
Need confirmation
void viper
Where’s the “fu” in josefumi from though
fleet pier
josefu
that's how you right joseph's name in japanese
or at least that's what he's reasoning
minor ore
We are getting a Jobin chapter and I am hyped.
It’s hyping me up a lot tbh
Even KAATO is here
Technically
Not to jump to conclusions but
fleet pier
is waluigi here
minor ore
Joesph being head doctor man and keeping holly in an effort to save her or something would be really cool
brazen niche
I was the one who pointed out the josefu - mi
brazen niche
Mi can mean fruit/seed/essence. Josefu being "joseph"
minor ore
That’s a really cool find
robust ibex
so hiatus or new issue
minor ore
Where would you guys rate JoJolion
white beacon
I would rate it on my pc
grizzled pilot
would rate it in my monthly ultra jump vote card
grizzled pilot
it's really good. in my top 3 too
burnt kite
A solid 7/10
minor ore
For me it goes part 7 part 8 then part 5
grizzled pilot
i just hope the rest is good and resovles most of the hanging stuff
robust ibex
i'd put jojolion just under part 6 but not over part 4
so 5>7>4>8>6>3>2>1
not that im saying any part is bad
proper salmon
I'm not all caught up to part 8 but do we know how Josephumi is related to the Joestars yet?
proper salmon
well he is probably related since he has the birthmark (I mean Josephumi before he is mixed up with kira btw)
brazen niche
Yeah. It's not confirmed, might never be mentioned in the series knowing Araki
Makes the most sense.
proper salmon
oh, yeah araki might not reveal it, Like the sandman-soundman thing in SBR
brazen niche
yeah. To me, Sandman and soundman being two different people is really clear. While to others, there obviously the same. But those people tend to use the wiki as a source
Idk If you saw it but we just talked about it recently. Josefumi. Josefu sounds like Joseph. Mi in Japanese can mean seed/fruit/essence. So Josefumi = Joseph 's seed
proper salmon
ooohhh that is a nice touch/reference/hint/something
I kinda like that theory,
is there anything else to back it up though?
brazen niche
In the story so far, nope. His Birthmark makes it clear he's a Joestar though
and the other thing is that even if its a new universe of JoJo, there's still similarities so the p4 Josuke vibe that Josefumi has about him could be seen as another link. But absolutely nothing that is concrete
proper salmon
fyi I just realised Josefumi's stand is pretty similar to p4 jojo
brazen niche
that too. I just hope that for once, something like this isn't left to peoples imagination
proper salmon
yeah me 2
brazen niche
It's like christopher nolan movies where he doesn't know what to do with the story so he makes a vague ending and then all the fans battle over their interpretation of it
pearl wave
wait so, when's new chapter?
proper salmon
what chapter are we on?
and I think it's thursday the new chapter
zenith shale
minor ore
Yasuho would never do this I’m literally shaking and crying
mossy robin
Works at a hospital.
minor ore
@summer tree get in here bitch
novel igloo
yasuho look behind you its doobie wah it comes from your breath oh god oh fuck
white beacon
Is tooru friggin naked
mossy robin
Yes.
novel igloo
shes wearing air pods
white beacon
Guess this disproves memory thingy theory
minor ore
@zenith shale
mossy robin
Araki says the fuck word.
zenith shale
minor ore
Then what the fuck is this
Didn’t Yasuho say early on she never did anything
dated anyone
novel igloo
yea but araki
mossy robin
Good.
white beacon
Lmao what if josuke brings that part up "you told me you never dated anyone" and yasuho goes like "I'm sorey jsossukee... I liieesd cuzzz I didntm wantt you to ththink ii havesss somneoe else.e....."
novel igloo
remember when yasuho was gonna go investigate that hair clip thing but araki realized literally nobody cared
so she just goes with josuke
white beacon
I mean, rai said that to yasuho
minor ore
I’m gonna kick Yasuho in the nuts
pearl wave
tooru is a bitch
proper salmon
can someone tell me how many chapters in jojolion?
pearl wave
84
proper salmon
thx
novel igloo
god i love every single stand design in jojolion
summer tree
what
white beacon
Even the Schott Keys?
novel igloo
yes
white beacon
Thong tooru
pearl wave
Also, since we're running out of time to say it, did yall know the head doctor is 89 years old?
white beacon
I bet he would wear one unironically
pearl wave
Yeah dude, 89 YEARS!
novel igloo
holy shit 89 years is such a crazy ammount of time
pearl wave
Araki should've waited till chapter 89 to introduce head doctor tbh
proper salmon
and araki is a vampire
minor ore
I’m kinda pissed
This kind of dispels my theory
Well, the theory that I believed anyway
pearl wave
so they allow him to corrupt the youth with his comics ridden with homosexual subliminal messaging
novel igloo
i had a theory for the ambushing stand
wait they get like teleported last chapter right
minor ore
It’s definitely Tooru’s
novel igloo
or am i just shit at reading manga
minor ore
Why else would it attack Josuke
white beacon
That's why I didn't wanna listen to your theory todo, cuz I knew it be this
minor ore
He wasn’t the one talking iirc
pearl wave
you know what, it'd be cool is head doctors stand just straight lets him teleport
That'd make for a main antagonist worthy stand
novel igloo
yea im guessing his ability lets him move people through their life
minor ore
But this just throws it into a river with cinderblocks tied to its feet
novel igloo
location and age
pearl wave
Not sure of age, but location would be a solid one
novel igloo
he and the 89 YEAR OLD are the same person
and thats how they're so far apart
and never seen together
white beacon
Todo you mean like magenta
pearl wave
But how could he be in two places at the same time
minor ore
I hope he’s some SBR rider’s descendant
pearl wave
tooru at the hospital, and head doctor by tsurugi's mom
novel igloo
tooru and the 89 YEAR OLD HEAD DOCTOR!!! are never seen in the same space
so hes just using the ability to sawp back and forth
proper salmon
wait did I see My boi Magenta Magenta in chat?
pearl wave
But tsurugi's mom sees head doctor while yasuho is talking to tooru
white beacon
I mean, didn't tooru literally just point out that the head doctor was right behind them?
novel igloo
oh well then idk
novel igloo
might eb a shared stand
novel igloo
probably not
rocky charm
I don't think Head Doctor will be Diavolo 2
novel igloo
dont even think the holy corpse matters in part 8
pearl wave
One of the chapters ran through it's history
white beacon
Wait, I thought the rokakaka was found in some remote island
rocky charm
Nah
proper salmon
the rokakaka is found on new guinea but is extremely rare
minor ore
That’s literally how Johnny died
rocky charm
The new equivalent exchange may be related to the corpse
minor ore
Oh
rocky charm
But the old Rokakaka is separate
pearl wave
I'm not saying rokakaka is related to it
just saying the corpse IS significant in this part
rocky charm
Hopefully
pearl wave
It already has been
novel igloo
btw what do u guys think of josukes character
novel igloo
beat me to it
minor ore
JK Rowling announced that the Head Doctor is gay.
summer tree
A. Alternate Diavolo
B. Alternate Kars
C. Alternate Speedwagon
D. Magenta Magenta
E. None of the above
pearl wave
JK Rowling reveals that Suzy Q was gay all along
proper salmon
I choose D
pearl wave
Doubt he'd bring back magent tbh
novel igloo
That'd be cool but it wouldnt rly be a twist in part 8's plot
proper salmon
I want my boi back in jojo
novel igloo
wait so did josuke and fruit rohan realize that the doctor doesnt have the fruit
pearl wave
How dare you compare the gucci king rohan to plant appraiser
rocky charm
And Jousuke said "Bros befoe Hoes"
pearl wave
I don't
proper salmon
yes
proper salmon
YES!
summer tree
meets the immovable object
proper salmon
thank you!
white beacon
I mean, kars really isn't an unstoppable force, it's still going to be like a meteor and stop when it crashes
proper salmon
@summer tree I like your thought process
summer tree
let me keep my dreams Jan
proper salmon
yeah leave him alone he is a holy man
white beacon
I mean, Jesus is a holy man too, but damn did everyone wanna get him in SBR
minor ore
Kars ain’t happening
proper salmon
Mr. MM is more holy than speedwagon himself
minor ore
Is Tooru’s stand
rocky charm
Grovyle
summer tree
rocky charm
TBF
minor ore
ITS BEEN LIKE 30 YEARS
minor ore
I’ll delete my discord account if it’s some rock human and Kars bullshit
rocky charm
But it could just be the blades are their only similarity
Because Kars' light blades were underutilized
white beacon
Baoh also has blade arms
grizzled pilot
shoutout to my man kars, invented the chainsaw in 120000BC
summer tree
I still think Speedwagon might also be possible
minor ore
When Caro and Mr. MM say it’s gonna be AU Kars
summer tree
only cause
Araki
keeps shoving the whole
"The head doctor is 89 thing"
Speedwagon died when he was 89
why else would Araki push the whole
"He's 89" thing
there's gotta be like
a connection
white beacon
Cuz maybe it's a red herring
grizzled pilot
it's funny
summer tree
but like
it's such a hard thing to catch onto
like what normal fan of Jojo
like
a casual
is gonna remember that
Speedwagon died
white beacon
Or that he just wanted to waste some pages
summer tree
when he was 89
white beacon
If a casual can't remember what age speedwagon died, do you really expect much from araki?
summer tree
well I mean
proper salmon
there is only one person that can live to over 89 years old is the immovable object the god himself,
Magenta Magenta My boi
summer tree
it could just be that
Araki just like
went back
looked at Part 2
saw what he wrote down as Speedwagon's death age
wrote it down on post it note
and then like
put in his Part 8 plot points folder
minor ore
Does Araki even remember he made Part 2
proper salmon
duh he does
sacred totem
proper salmon
has he not?
minor ore
I’m joking
grizzled pilot
it's not like anything from part 2 has ever been relevant again
white beacon
I bet araki didn't even know he made a pillarman character who can slip into shadows who I also want to actually be the new stand's power
grizzled pilot
woah no way. gonna make a you tube video about this
proper salmon
@white beacon who do you mean? santana?
white beacon
I meant wamuu, or was that a different shadow thing?
white beacon
Ah, it's his own shadow
grizzled pilot
he hates it when people enter his shadow so much that instinctively attacks them
summer tree
that doesn't really exist for any reason other than to establish the hierarchy
proper salmon
noone could step into his shadow because he would kick them
white beacon
Nvm then
grizzled pilot
even kars
summer tree
it only exists to show
"Wamuu is below these two"
it's not really important otherwise
rocky charm
They were so formal about it, too
"I apologize for assaulting you, master"
"It's okay, my child. I should have been more careful. I know how much you detest others treading upon the darkness cast behind you when you're struck by a light source"
proper salmon
is that how they said it in the manga?
white beacon
And then at the end kard just, well, became rude
rocky charm
No
grizzled pilot
it's also kinda there to show that they're just dudes
rocky charm
I purposefully fleshed it out for humorous effect
proper salmon
ok good
grizzled pilot
they have a hierarchy, but they're also comrades
white beacon
Just bros but there's still tops and bottoms
proper salmon
and santana is a mere peasant
pearl wave
Wamuu is a power bottom- JK Rowling
grizzled pilot
no he isn't lmao, ACDC maybe
minor ore
I have a scan of something from the new chapter don’t know if it’s legit or not
Anyone want to see it or just wait?
rocky charm
Wait
astral cargo
Why do the stone masks just never come back after part 2 
summer tree
the Part 5 novel, Purple Haze Feedback, has a stone mask in it and it's a plot point in it
brazen niche
has that one been translated?
fleet pier
yes
summer tree
indeed, you can get a copy at the #421721719309467649
brazen niche
oh sweet. didnt know about that.
my post on the sub went up now so I'm hoping for a miracle where someone replies "oh, here's a link to GHGR" lol
timber birch
man blue hawaii arc is a splatter fest
zenith shale
white beacon
Happy jobin
timber birch
Jobin is happy, so we all should be happy
brittle blade
Really
Why is that the weirdest parts take place in 2012?
Both stone ocean and jojolion
*2011-2012
Hey what is this pic
Is this a new leak?
white beacon
Yes new leaks
white beacon
I dunno
white beacon
🤷 some peeps just posted some here, dunno where they got em
storm temple
Okay I love that
quasi zephyr
storm temple
Well the translations might take a bit longer
spice crystal
translations are typically done by the 19th
the 19th being 10pm GMT when I wake up and remember to read it
faint rover
someone just said that Tooru’s Stand is called Roxy Roller and Head Doctor’s is called One More Red Nightmare
wonder if its true
minor ore
Alright guys
stand namings are unpredictable
I saw a pic of naked tooru with yasuho
I'm fucking cryibg rn
@minor ore now look at pictures of pucci to get your eyes purified
get pucci to purify your eyes
I want to see gappy naked with yasuho
That is the only way
To purify ny eyes
After the horrifying thought of naked tooru with yasuho
Also hell yeah my theory just might be true
About HD being au diavolo
HD stand looks like D4C+KC
Pls i'm getting so excited
yeah i cant wait to see more of the head doctor
I loved his design from the moment i laid eyes upon him
His shoulders tho
What a beast
he is so precious
spice crystal
you mean this?
rich depot
Please tell me he‘s wearing a speedo
My poor heart can‘t take it
Gappy better CHAD stomp him on the first page
white beacon
Tfw when love drama gets the fans hyped more than fruit
minor ore
Fucking Toru
mossy robin
Tooru says the fuck word and wins.
minor ore
NO
mossy robin
And then he kills and replaces Gappy.
rich depot
pearl wave
I mean, he already looks like gappy
white beacon
No hat gappy vs hat gappy
minor ore
Where is Toru's nipples
minor ore
He does
white beacon
Does araki even draw in nipples for guys? I forget
minor ore
Probably not
pearl wave
The answer is no
kind owlBOT
@pearl wave, Your Stand Power is now level 10 !
pearl wave
white beacon
Araki: draws the entire tiddy in detail for women
Also araki: guys canonically don't have nips
white beacon
And yeah that part of araki's art is weird, cuz like, the curve on that part is too sharp
brittle blade
||Tooru’s Stand is called Roxy Roller. Akefu’s is called One More Red Nightmare.||
god damn it
pearl wave
BOI
brittle blade
I wanted it to be called black hole sun so much
pearl wave
spoilers
pearl wave
wait, is the chapter even out yet? Are we just waiting for it to be translated?
brittle blade
damn
brittle blade
I have to search up the entire thing
minor ore
Names
brittle blade
4chan
minor ore
Haha
brittle blade
well
minor ore
Trusting 4chan
minor ore
People said it was black hole something last month
white beacon
I mean, if you can show us the page, someone could just translate it right here and now, google translate has a free-hand option so we write the katakana and then see how the romaji works for it
knotty mango
4chan
white beacon
I mean, I'd trust those leaked names, if there was a pic attached when saying them
knotty mango
They get whit done so if there is a leak it prob isnt fake
void viper
abbachio
storm temple
Okay if that's actually what being said I'll uh be very concerned
Also I'm able to read katakana and hiragana but I'm not very fluent in Japanese so like I can't read kanji or properly translate
stiff fjord
quick zealot
Can someone explain me the connection between this part and part 4?
fleet pier
main character named josuke, the setting is Morioh
fleet pier
several stand battles reflect ones from part 4
brittle blade
the color ouse too
fleet pier
color? ehh, no
brittle blade
some are even straight up ripped from part 4
I mean the pink sky made a return here
fleet pier
pink??
quick zealot
im talking like some friend told me that there are a kira and a josuke
brittle blade
yup they are there
quick zealot
that is like a half half kira from part 4
like kira splitted in 2
somthng like that
brittle blade
where are you in the manga?
fleet pier
i would recommend reading the part
brittle blade
Have you read Vento Aureo at least?
minor ore
It's explained in the manga of JoJolion I'd go read it for the explanation
brittle blade
I love your name
minor ore
Thanks
quick zealot
i know the basic lore but just im start of vento aureo manga
and still discuss it with friends
i dont mind spoilers in jojo
tbh´
white beacon
@quick zealot the only connection this part has with part4 are the names, no one is the same person as the one they share a name with in part4
fleet pier
and also several stand battles are kinda similar to some part 4 ones
minor ore
^
fleet pier
highway star got referenced
white beacon
Not exactly, the two KQs may have boom abilities but different specifics
storm temple
Part 4 and 8 aren't connected in universe, but there are certain similarities between the two
white beacon
Just replying to what several people said
fleet pier
dam u jan
minor ore
Best way to say it is that some of the stands are close to their originals but all of them are new or edited
white beacon
But in the end, nothing is the same except for some of the names
minor ore
@quick zealot many name references
quick zealot
thx everyone i k now what i was looking for <3
buoyant summit
When is the new chapter coming out? I always forget the date
mossy robin
19th.
buoyant summit
Nice
subtle lava
i havent read jojolion yet
white beacon
Um.. Okay?
pale spoke
Then shoo
storm temple
Then read it
cosmic frost
guys im so hyped for tommorows new chapter
kind owlBOT
@cosmic frost, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !
cosmic frost
imma be 100 % with yall
storm temple
Yes
minor ore
Can't wait for Abbachio to finally open up
proud stag
Shit Abbacchio joins the Gappy gang? 
fleet pier
@minor ore kira having a different stand is most likely due to him not being kira from part 4, but actually the equivalent to jotaro
just wanted to note that
minor ore
Alright
spiral hemlock
Next part will be alt universe giorno
cosmic frost
or jolyne
spiral hemlock
part 5 first
void viper
No that’s not how this works
spiral hemlock
why
void viper
Well part 7s jojo was alt jonathon
Part 8 was alt Josuke
There’s a few jojo’s missing there
spiral hemlock
part 8 has kira as jotaro
void viper
My guess is a female mobster tbh
minor ore
Not sure about that one
Because the alt universe has been changed from the original from part 7 forward
Since Dio (Diego) died in part 7 there isn't going to be a Giorno
void viper
Yes but they aren’t main jojo’s of a part
white beacon
Kira's name can't even be "jojo" which is more or less the minimum
void viper
Gappy is one person
You don’t say 3 is 2 numbers because it’s two numbers added together
He’s a FUSION of two people sure
But he end result is still one person
spiral hemlock
im just saying there will be a giorno equivalent
void viper
Alt dio does
minor ore
The family tree and original events are messed up and the reason part 8 is in part 4 is because of the other characters are still alive there, there wasn't a basterd son like Josuke because of the timeline being messed up
spiral hemlock
literally wherever
minor ore
Giorno doesn't exist in alt universe I think
void viper
Also josefumi was the bastard child I believe
minor ore
Because Dio died way back
void viper
Or is at least theorised to be
spiral hemlock
giorno was pulled out of arakis ass
void viper
It was still possible for giorno to exist though due to dio being very not dead
white beacon
Giorno alt, as a brando descendant, can't exist at all cuz the only known brando we know of just died
minor ore
Because the longer the alt universe exists the more it will stray from the OG timeline
minor ore
It's possible but very unlikely
fleet pier
how old was Diego
void viper
He was what? 19?
white beacon
He could have a relationship, but I doubt he'd knock someone up when his entire goal was to race
minor ore
^ reason it was unlikely
void viper
THAT WAS FOR PROTECTION
Jesus wept
Stephen literally said he wasn’t romantically interested in Lucy
spiral hemlock
they did things a lot younger back then
void viper
For obvious reasons
minor ore
Diego doesn't seem like the type of person to get married and have a son when he needed to focus on a race especially with his mother's back story of the father not caring
spiral hemlock
you don’t need to be married to have sex lol
void viper
You did in those days
minor ore
^
void viper
Or it was a massive deal
spiral hemlock
no bro u did not lol
spiral hemlock
lol
if u don’t think araki can’t write some sort of giorno variant you are tripping lol
he literally made kira a joestar man can do whatever he wants
as long as he has joestar dna nothing is off limits
void viper
Diego had no joestar dna
spiral hemlock
ok?
void viper
The brandos had no joestar dna
white beacon
You do know giorno is both brando and joestar too, right?
spiral hemlock
i feel like you don’t understand what I’m saying
void viper
If the two never mixed in this universe
spiral hemlock
he doesn’t need to be a Brando to be an alt universe giorno
void viper
You specifically asked for GIORNO, who’s connection to the family tree is via a BRANDO
spiral hemlock
he literally just needs araki to imply that he is the alt universe version of giorno
white beacon
???? That's literally what makes giorno.. Giorno
void viper
If that connection is not there, it’s not alt-giorno
spiral hemlock
alt universe giorno could literally be a dog
spiral hemlock
as long as araki says it’s this universes giorno it is
spiral hemlock
lol
spiral hemlock
they are completely different universes
they don’t need to share dna
they’re only references to the previous universes
minor ore
They aren't though, the family tree of Johnny and Hat Josuke are connected
spiral hemlock
yeah but what I’m saying is
the universes aren’t mirrors
as long as he calls the character giorno or something along those lines
then it’s alt universe giorno
kind owlBOT
@spiral hemlock, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
spiral hemlock
like for example
a universe where giorno is the son of Jonathan only
is it still an alt universe giorno? Yes
void viper
Then that would be alt George II
spiral hemlock
you know what i meant
storm temple
Wait why are we calling alt Giorno
spiral hemlock
I can literally just rephrase to the son of jostle or Jolene or whatever
minor ore
We're debating if there could be an alt Giorno for the next part
storm temple
Ohh
white beacon
Johnyy already had two kids anyways, and none of them are giorno
fleet pier
just because they have the same name doesn't mean they are equivalents
kira 8 is not equivalent to kira 4
spiral hemlock
they are equivalent if araki says they are or implies they are
ok so we won’t use the word “equivalent”
fleet pier
araki doesn't just "say" how his story works, lol
spiral hemlock
ok prove that johnny is the equivalent to jonathan
minor ore
Kira is more like Jotaro isn’t he
Kyo too
You can’t prove that. It’s all just discussion.
spiral hemlock
their fathers are different
minor ore
Don’t dig too deep
spiral hemlock
but it’s universally accepted isn’t it?
spiral hemlock
it is
minor ore
don’t move the goalpost
spiral hemlock
I didn’t
fleet pier
Johnny is the equivalent because there are very clear direct comparisons between the two
spiral hemlock
im showing you that dna doesn’t mean anything when you are referencing a character in a whole other universe
spiral hemlock
as long as he is a joestar it doesn’t matter
fleet pier
it kinda does tho
spiral hemlock
it helps to clarify but it’s not necessary
fleet pier
what do you mean "it"
spiral hemlock
dna relation
fleet pier
well yeah that's actually really important
DNA is one of the biggest reasons we know kira is jotaro
since he's the son of Holly
minor ore
Now you see the correlation right
fleet pier
and Johnny is the equivalent to Jonathan
minor ore
Yup
fleet pier
what are you saying here
spiral hemlock
and johnny and jonathan are different according to your logic if DNA defines a character
minor ore
We aren’t saying they are the exact same personality and person, just that they fit the same spot in the family tree
minor ore
Kyle, I really don’t know what you are trying to say here. Do you mind explaining real quick?
fleet pier
why wouldn't they share the same DNA
minor ore
I mean they literally don’t
spiral hemlock
Because they are literally different people from different universes with different parents
minor ore
Different universes
fleet pier
why does that mean anything
spiral hemlock
Exactly
fleet pier
also they're "different" people
spiral hemlock
that’s what I’m saying
minor ore
Alright, we need to get back to square one
Kyle, send your point in full
one message
spiral hemlock
Ok
minor ore
Jefe, just hold up please lol
spiral hemlock
Don’t want to hear that from you unless you have a phd
Ok todo
I’m saying that araki can write a giorno alt into the story however he wants
minor ore
Okay
Yeah, he can I guess
But idk how Brando will exist in JJL
Diego didn’t have kids
and he didn’t have siblings
spiral hemlock
Ok so what I’m saying is that
The dna doesn’t matter
he doesn’t need to be a Brando
minor ore
He kind of would be
spiral hemlock
And the only reason he would need to be a jojo is because it’s the name of the manga
minor ore
Considering that Giorno is both Jonathan’s and DIO’s kid
spiral hemlock
ok but Johnny had different parents to jonathan
fleet pier
and didn't Johnny only have the 1 kid in the form of George II
kyle what do you mean he had different parents
spiral hemlock
his parents were different
fleet pier
his dad is still George
spiral hemlock
different george
different universe
different dna
you seriously underestimate creative freedom
fleet pier
how do you know they have different DNA
spiral hemlock
because they’re in different universes
fleet pier
that doesn't mean anything
spiral hemlock
it kinda means that there are differences between the universes
fleet pier
in terms of quantum theory, the infinite universes have all the same people in them, but each one has a difference from the other
some small, some big
spiral hemlock
and you don’t think their DNA is different even though they look completely different
fleet pier
no
DNA can be the same, even if you look different
know why
p l a s t i c s u r g e r y
fleet pier
all
wat
spiral hemlock
they all look different don’t they?
fleet pier
I'm not talking about that
fleet pier
what do you mean "all alt universe jojos"
I'm not talking about the plastic surgery part lmao
technically isn't Johnny the only "jojo"
spiral hemlock
kind self explanatory isn’t it
sure whatever let’s go with that then
johnny got plastic surgery
good one
fleet pier
ok
i mean jokes aside, he was kind of a womanizer
i could totally see him getting some work done
spiral hemlock
they didn’t even have cars
late beacon
minor ore
Lol original design Speed King
spiral hemlock
Speed king requiem inbound
fleet pier
I'm more of a caw
pearl wave
Speed king has never looked good
knotty mango
Ding dong you are wrong
fleet magnet
i think Speed King looks fucking amazing
also why do people continue to say part 8 has “no main villain”
minor ore
it is fucking scary too
pearl wave
the boy has fucking jowls on the side of his head
minor ore
imagine getting touches and ur pp starts boiling
fleet magnet
i’m like 20 chapters behind atm but Jobin and the wife seem to clearly be the antagonists for the long run
minor ore
i'm hoping for a fusion
either between joubin and his mother or joubin and tsurugi
since he has a branch its possible that will happen
minor ore
yes
supple totem
i feel like joubin and josuke are going to have a final fight over the crafted rokakaka
fleet magnet
unless araki just starts smearing shit all over the pages it’ll probably remain that way
i really don’t understand why people say jjls plot is vague and directionless
minor ore
what about the lead doctor ?
supple totem
lead docter?
fleet magnet
head doctor
minor ore
that misterious dude
fleet magnet
^^
supple totem
old dud
supple totem
you mean where he suddenly becomes younger? @minor ore
minor ore
@supple totem i mean that maybe he will go and start erasing the leads to the fruit parlor trade
supple totem
i c
kind owlBOT
@supple totem, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
supple totem
why did rai start following josuke and yasuo?
minor ore
she was josefumi's friend right ?
fleet magnet
i think it’s a he
kind owlBOT
@fleet magnet, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !
minor ore
wait i am glitch
supple totem
F
minor ore
oh the fruit appraiser ?
supple totem
yes
fleet magnet
but if i’m caught up to what i’m talking abt he needs protection from josuke
you’re not i’m
supple totem
oh ye i remember now
supple totem
Fettuccine man
minor ore
they were trying to kill him right ?
fleet magnet
if fugos suit was human
minor ore
he is hiding at the higashikata house
minor ore
yup
fleet magnet
the rokakaka dudes want to kill him probably
minor ore
^
supple totem
the want to use him then kill him
fleet magnet
i should catch up completely by i really don’t wanna have to wait for new chapters
minor ore
I completely forgot but what's different about the "new" rokakaka and why does everyone want it?
to be fair all of the rokakakakaaka dudes are dead already, so we might get another rock human or the lead doctor
The new one can be used on others
I think
supple totem
yes
fleet magnet
overall jobin is our main baddie
minor ore
@minor ore doesn't the original rokakakakakakakakas take out parts of the people who eat's body ?
knotty mango
Iol no
minor ore
i guess the new one will be able sacrifice someone else
just like how when kira ate it josefumi was sacrified
fleet magnet
the old heals something but takes away something else in turn
supple totem
i have this huge question. The curse of the higashkata family is where the first son dies. However can be saved if someone sacrificses themself for the son. Then how is Joubin and Norioske both alive?
its been bothering me a hecc alot
minor ore
Didn't joubin's mother sacrifice a kid ?
fleet magnet
that or i misread it as them trying to find a way
supple totem
that sounds about right
minor ore
Tsurugi is about to hit 10
that’s when it happens
Tsurugi needs the cure
also lol at Norisuke being alive
fleet magnet
the dressing up thing is like to slow it i think
or may just be a superstition thing
minor ore
do yall think joubin will sacrifice someone else or himsellf ?
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !
minor ore
He won’t need to I think
fleet magnet
watch him sacrifice tsurugi
minor ore
oof
minor ore
supple totem
speed moon king
minor ore
or paper moon king
supple totem
paper speed king u mean?
fleet magnet
or maybe the stand can summon origami similar to josukes bubbles
knotty mango
Todo spoiler in new ep discussin
fleet magnet
that’s what i was thinking
minor ore
i hope araki keeps the plot nice and thicc tbh
supple totem
fleet magnet
maybe stepped on cause of PMKs face ability
minor ore
the villains of the week are actually related to the plot now ffs
supple totem
the new chapter is coming out tommorow?
supple totem
someone told me it would come out 19th of april
fleet magnet
it’s typically around this time of the month
minor ore
supple totem
🙏
minor ore
The previews are already out too
fleet magnet
i’m very excited to see if we’ll get a part 9
kind owlBOT
@fleet magnet, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !
fleet magnet
and if we do that means it’ll be the first time i’m apart of a new jojo unveiling