jojolion

[minor ore]

I'll get the dialogue

[sacred totem]

im confused

what's so funny

[minor ore]

The only fleshed out character in Part 8 is Norisuke

👀

[sacred totem]

I like norisuke

he has two very contrasting sides

[minor ore]

It was Tsurugi who brought the Yasuho thing I think

[sacred totem]

he talk to josuke all like "I gotta kill the president of the united states of america" and then he turns to his friend and is all like "So fruits are cool"

wait frost what were you talking about

[knotty mango]

Frost you like OP?

[minor ore]

Hold up

Has matsubi been in the story at all?

[sacred totem]

I have to go soon but I really like this convo

and I wanna know what frost was talking about

[white beacon]

Anthony, you mean Mitsuba?? Hell yeah she's in the story, she's literally in this arc and the one before it

[minor ore]

I can't find it uhregghr

Ok

[sacred totem]

mitsuba?

[minor ore]

Sorry im on chapter 60 im waiting for it to be colored

[white beacon]

Wait, was her name mitsuba?

[white beacon]

Fuck now I'm confused too

[minor ore]

Here

[sacred totem]

oh

[white beacon]

Jobin's wife, anyways

[sacred totem]

yea

ohhh her

She is badass

[minor ore]

Also a flaw for Part 8 imo is how Part 8 sort of just introduces characters into an arc right, but doesnt flesh them out as characters throughout said arc and are just kinda forgotten about afterwards.

[sacred totem]

the doctor wu fight was dark

[minor ore]

Like look at how much we learned about Ringo Roadagain and his arc was pretty short

Part 8 doesnt do that

[sacred totem]

Well part 8 is a mystery

[minor ore]

True its a parallel of Part 4 afterall

[sacred totem]

maybe they will introduce the backstories once the mysteries unfolds further

part 4 was not that much of a mystery

it was more so a community thing

[fleet pier]

the doctor wu fight was dark
"i can even enter through... your urethra."

[knotty mango]

Part 4 felt like the town was alive

And they know something was wrong.

And they had to root it out

[sacred totem]

yea

[knotty mango]

All the other fights werent as serious

But kira

Kira had this tension to it

[sacred totem]

but it wasn't that mysterious

[knotty mango]

Like all the stuff we saw was coming together

[sacred totem]

I mean it was tense but I feel part 8 is more mystery

the doctor wu fight was dark

the fucking miscarriage

equivalent exchange fucking wat

[minor ore]

Gonna throw out an opinion here but if Yoshikage Kira couldve been the main character in place of Josuke he wouldve been a better JoJo

😬

[sacred totem]

yea...

[minor ore]

Like if he wouldve survived, and not do equivalent exchange with Josefumi

[sacred totem]

oh

you meant 8

[minor ore]

Yes

Not part 4 lol

[sacred totem]

ok well part 4 wouldve been better with more kira

[minor ore]

True true

[knotty mango]

Kira was perfect

[sacred totem]

but I really like josuke

[knotty mango]

Kira was a great villain

[sacred totem]

I think his mix of josefumi and kira is interesting

[minor ore]

Yoshikage Kira in part 8 is badass af even tho he only had like 1 arc

[fleet pier]

kira was not great

[knotty mango]

Better than the downgrade next part

[fleet pier]

kira was fantastic

[knotty mango]

Kira was not fantastic

He was phenominal

[minor ore]

Well yoshikage kira in Part 8 aint even a villain

Hes like one of the nicest characters in Part 8

[sacred totem]

but he is still really fucking cool

[soft raptor]

Part 4 didn’t have much backstory either

[minor ore]

Really hope Josuke can unlock Killer Queen somehow

[sacred totem]

fuck I have to go

[minor ore]

CAN YOU IMAGINE

[sacred totem]

it's been fun bye

[minor ore]

Bye

[brazen niche]

Kira was into some pretty kinky shit from what we've seen in his apartment

[minor ore]

Deadass?

Wait is this part 4 or 8

[hidden cargo]

I'm pretty sure that weird surfer dude took those kinky photos

[kind owl]

@hidden cargo, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

[minor ore]

Kira went from hand fetish serial killer to doctor sailor

[brazen niche]

in part 8. the pictures in the album.

the nails too

[minor ore]

God damn

[brazen niche]

No way that other guy went into his apartment and placed that stuff

[minor ore]

I didnt pay much attention to his apartment

Although I remember he really wanted to see that movie with his Mom that one time

[brazen niche]

I forget. Were those pictures gory or just bonding stuff?

Because they came off as "Kira captures women, ties them up and does stuff to them"

[minor ore]

iirc only bdsm stuff

so nothing illegal really

[brazen niche]

as far as we know

maybe he exploded them after he was done to get rid of evidence

[minor ore]

Kinda curious but

Is there a deeper meaning story wise behind how yoshikage kira ended up with the same stand?

Cause ik in Part 7 the alternate universe caused by Valentines U.S. flag gave Diego access to The World

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

[minor ore]

But how did yoshikage kira in Part 8 get Killer Queen?

[brazen niche]

there's so many of those alternate universes. Valentine didn't give DIO access to the World

[kind owl]

@brazen niche, Your Stand Power is now level 12 !

[brazen niche]

he just always had it.

[minor ore]

So you're saying that DIO wasnt in the appropriate Alternate Universe

Till valentine came along

[brazen niche]

DIO in this universe, didn't have a stand. He eventually got the DInosaur one. Then he died. Then Valentine started looking in other universes and found another DIO who had a different stand(probably because of the small variants between each universe) and brought him to the corpse universe

Like he did with Soundman

[minor ore]

Okay that makes sense

I guess Yoshikage Kira in Part 8 was alright in the correct AU

So he didnt need to switch universes to acquire it

Or atleast im assuming this is the right answer lol

[brazen niche]

its just his stand. Changing it would be confusing. There's not really any reason to, especially with how the story goes.

[minor ore]

True true

The pictures weren't taken by Kira

And collecting nails isn't really kinky

Someone should pull up those fetish pictures

I didnt see them

Part 8 Kira is a narcissist

I hope later down in the story Josuke can have the ability to manipupate equivalent exchange so he could split back into 2 josefumi and kira

Cause I wanna see more Killer Queen outside of the Vitamin C arc lol

Or if Josuke somehow gets Killer Queen but I dont think Araki would give someone 2 stands

[brazen niche]

Do they specifically say that those pictures werent taken by kira?

[sacred totem]

Here's what I think will happen

[brazen niche]

and its not kinky to collect nails but it is creepy

[sacred totem]

Josuke will have all the memories and passions of JOsefumi and kira brought back to him at the end and he will end the mystery with both Josefumi and Kira's wishes

and then he will die

he will understand why they went through what they did

[brazen niche]

there'd be no reason for that guy in the apartment above to plant a binder filled with kinky pictures he somehow took

@minor ore

[minor ore]

He was pretending to be Kira

@sacred totem wait

[brazen niche]

What a fantastic explanation

[minor ore]

But we would need a main villain to defeat tho, right?

[brazen niche]

Sounds like you're trying to pass off your headcannon as fact

[minor ore]

I feel like Josuke already knows a good deal about his past and I think at this point he just cares more about the rokakaka then his own memories

If anything maybe the main villain could be the ruler of the stone humans if she dies then all the stone humans die or something and then the rokakaka is sealed away forever

[brazen niche]

What I wonder about is how distant is the relation between Josefumi & Kira

[minor ore]

Josefumis mom is dumb af

[brazen niche]

since they're both Joestars

[minor ore]

Yeah let me just casually let my son drown to death

[brazen niche]

yeah but that scene was realistic in a way. Some parents are fucked. And she seemed like an addict

[minor ore]

I wanted Joubin to be the main villain but I dont think thats gonna happen

Or maybe Part 8 wont have a main villain and it just ends on Josuke having all of his memories returned to him somehow

But thats no fun

What headcanon

[sacred totem]

well thats why I said solve the mystery instead of defeat the bad guy

[minor ore]

Wasnt it confirmed that he was the one who took the pictures?

[brazen niche]

Where?

[minor ore]

What if we combined both of our ideas

[brazen niche]

Part of me would like for the main villain to be a call back to Part 2.

[minor ore]

And had it to where the last villain

If defeated

Solved the myseries

For everyone

[brazen niche]

Josefumi is likely to be Joseph's bastard, so Holly's brother and Kira's uncle

[minor ore]

Also

This is the only Part where DIO is nowhere to be seen

Ik dio wasnt in part 4 or 5 but he was atleast referenced by the characters

DIO isnt even referenced in Part 8

[brazen niche]

Well, unless he had a son or daughter at some point, he is irrelevant to the story.

Part 3 DIO had a following. Part 7 likely died being alone and nobody knows who he is.

[rich hearth]

Diego

[minor ore]

Wait

Are you saying DIO and Diego are 2 different people?

I thought Diego was alternate universe DIO

[signal musk]

well

[rich hearth]

He is

His nickname is Dio

[signal musk]

Diego died in part 7

[rich hearth]

But his real name is Diego

[signal musk]

no ties into part 8

soo yeah

he isn't gonna be remembered

[minor ore]

Wait then why did rebelled reference DIO being alone and dying

In part 7

[rich hearth]

I mean you can refer to him as Dio

He technically wasn’t wrong

[minor ore]

What

He didnt mention Diego

[brazen niche]

diego brando = DIO

they're the same person

[minor ore]

Then why did you say he died alone

Diego died by girl

Not alone

[brazen niche]

...

He has no one. He has no family.

He died alone.

[minor ore]

Oh ok

I thought you mean he literally died alone

Lmao

[brazen niche]

Doesn't matter If it's Dinosaur DIO, or Za Wardo DIO. They both left nothing in the world. Short of a third DIO ripping through space-time and showing up in the Corpse World, I'm pretty sure there isn't gonna be anymore of him showing up

[minor ore]

The way you phrased it made it sound like you were talking about a 2nd DIO

Also what if DIO did end up having a son and he just randomly shows up in Part 8

I doubt thats gonna happen but its possible

[peak scaffold]

who happens to be named Giorno

and also happens to have a dream

[minor ore]

Martin Luther King

[brazen niche]

I don't think he'd fit in part 8. I want to see Wamu, Kars, Santana & ACDC though. Or an homage to them

that's what stone people remind me of

[minor ore]

Maybe a call back through uhh

A person named Kars or Wamu

But

They have a Stand

That would be cool

And then they reference Part 2

[brazen niche]

Or, as stands.

Someone with a "light cutting" stand, another with a wind stand, a stand that lets the user liquify himself and another that

wait

Jobins stand is kinda like ACDC

minus the veins coming out of his nails

So maybe its not too far off

[minor ore]

They could be stands but I feel like them just being AU versions would be cooler

But thats just me

[brazen niche]

Ya, AU versions would be cool but Jobins stand is boiling blood and that's exactly the same power

[rich hearth]

The new stand we saw kinda had a Kars like blade on its arm

[brazen niche]

I'm not caught up yet but that's cool.

I wonder if Holly recognized Josefumi as a Joestar when she rescued him as a child

[rich hearth]

Oh sorry for the spoils

[brazen niche]

It's fine. Risk I took coming in here. I'll catch up soon, just been busy and took a break after finishing the coloured manga.

[minor ore]

@brazen niche holdup

How did kira and josefumi get confirmed as

Joestars

Did we see a glimpse of the Joestar mark somewhere on their bodies?

[brazen niche]

Well, Kira holly's son. So He's a Joestar.

[minor ore]

True but what about josefumi

[primal grove]

yeah, you can also see the joestar mark on both of them

[brazen niche]

Josefumi has the birthmark in one of the flashbacks

[minor ore]

Oh ok

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !

[primal grove]

and the bubble from soft n wet is also split in the middle

[minor ore]

Alright that makes sense

[primal grove]

with 2 halves with stars

[brazen niche]

So he's probably Josephs son/Hollys brother

[primal grove]

different sized stars

[minor ore]

Wait what was up with those bite marks tho

[brazen niche]

I have no clue. They seemed to be how people got their stand powers at first kinda like vampirism

but there hasn't been much of a callback to it yet. At least not where I'm at

[primal grove]

yeah, the bite marks haven't been brought up

[sacred totem]

they seem important though

hopefully araki doesnt forget about them

[brazen niche]

probably has lol

[sacred totem]

lmao

[brazen niche]

I forgot about them too until just now

[sacred totem]

yea me too

they seem cool though

like it sounds like it would lead to something interesting

[brazen niche]

At first I thought it was Jesus living in underground Morioh biting people who got too close to the wall of eyes

[sacred totem]

lmao

that's a funny thought

the fucking messiah (according to those damn christians) digging around biting people

OH

THE DEVILS PALM

IN STEEL BALL RUN

BUT WALL EYES!?!?!

[brazen niche]

possibly. that'd be cool

[sacred totem]

gtg peace

[brazen niche]

Turns out a Saints corpse doesn't rot because saints are vampires

and the reason the corpse kept going into people is because Jesus is really Santana

Araki's gonna put a hit on me for figuring out his plans with part 8

[primal grove]

i think it was the stone dog, and araki planned on using him to be the one biting people and giving stands

but i think he just dropped it

[brazen niche]

Or, It's vampire jesus santana.

That dog did look weird at first. I thought there was something to him too

those bitemarks looked human

[primal grove]

true

[mossy robin]

Human dog.

[stark fossil]

JJL already has equivalent exchange

Should go full FMA and fuse a dog and a human

[summer tree]

what I wanted to say was

Araki said in a recent interview that

after the Mitsuba arc that things in the plot would start to

"converge"

so I think we're coming up on a climax

[minor ore]

do you think there's a possibility that bite the dust reappears for the climax?

[stark fossil]

I hope not

[minor ore]

or some kind of power that can keep the rokakaka from getting harvested by getting the final hour on a loop

[stark fossil]

I don't like when Araki leans on the old universe

[summer tree]

I DO

but I wouldn't want Bites the Dust to show up again

[stark fossil]

If it has to be a time power I would like one that's new, bizarre, and easily explained

[summer tree]

it's probably gonna be a dimension power

like D4C

cause D4C wasn't time

[minor ore]

My money is on Tooru’s memory manipulation

I think it'd make sense for the head doctor to have a stand that could trap gappy in some form of loop/trap

so he could dispose of them before the rokakaka gets to it's harvest point

maybe more related to space than time, since d4c wasn't time related

[soft raptor]

No more time powers please

[stone turret]

all the main villians in the original had time powers

but 7 and 8 arent gonna

bcs 7 already may have kicked off a trend with dimensional powers

[void viper]

kaato's stand was dimensional related right?

[minor ore]

Yes

[void viper]

b i g t h i n k

[rich hearth]

josuke walkin in his gucci pants

[stone turret]

texture not found

[void viper]

gappy install CS:source

[mild jewel]

is there a release schedule for part 8?

[fleet pier]

the 18th of every month

[brazen niche]

What about the coloured version

[fleet pier]

no idea on those

I've heard they release pretty erratically

[brazen niche]

yeah, seems like it.

[wicked crypt]

lol

[dense spoke]

He just literally sent that pic and went thanose'd

[long flax]

I mean except for march it was like one volume got colored a month

[minor ore]

anyone agree with the theory there is no final villain here?

i just don't see it

im not even caught up and i don't see it

[minor ore]

Yes, I'm up for that theory

I'm all for Araki not introducing a character that could be accounted for the entirety of Part 8, and just make someone be the second half villain

Damo already played such an important role in the first half of Jojolion regarding Gappy's existence that I don't see anyone being introduced this late and affecting that part of the plot even more

[uncut gulch]

Why do we have nagito emote?

[minor ore]

araki wtf

what the hell is up with that arm

[gentle cradle]

Time to begin JoJolion

[minor ore]

ok but what the hell is up with that arm

[gentle cradle]

I don't know

[minor ore]

lmao me neither

[warm gulch]

It just works

[minor ore]

It's called Jojolion

[coral hatch]

Can anyone explain me how Soft & Wet Josuke works again

I'm confused

All I know is that he has the bubbles that steals stuff

[mossy robin]

I mean that's it.

It has bubbles that steal stuff.

[coral hatch]

The stand fights confuse me when he uses Soft & Wet

But Josuke 8 still my favorite jojo and his stand is my fab stand

Jojolion is the best part I have ever read

[crystal patrol]

His bubbles steal traits from things

Rather than the thing itself

Like when the bubble pops next to Joshu’s eyes

It doesn’t steal his eyes, but it steals his eyesight

He can do that with the floor too

Stealing the friction from the floor

Things like that

It’s called ‘plunder’

[coral hatch]

I see

Ty

I hate to compare Joshu with Okuyasu but could Joshu be the okuyasu of jojolion? Idiot but op stand

[soft raptor]

Kinda

He’s better then Okuyasu though

[crystal patrol]

If Joshu was Okuyasu’s alt self, even Okuyasu would find him gross

[pearl wave]

I wouldn't say he's better....

The hand could literally teleport/bring anything to it

if okuyasu was smart, it'd be near impossible to set up anything. So the only stand that would be able to fight him would be a close range star platinum power type

but even then, he'd just need to give him a high five

The hand is DUMMY strong

pretty sure joshu needs to touch people for nut king to work

if he didn't THEN he'd be stronger for sure

wait....nut king call is just a bootleg sticky fingers

[crystal patrol]

I wonder if nut king call can remove Stands’ arms

I’m sure he can

[acoustic ocean]

I have a theory that main antagonist of this part is funny valentines ancestor

That would be rly bad tho... But we got no hint at who the real antagonist is for ages

[gentle cradle]

I'm in the middle of the Cali King Bed arc

[pearl wave]

So the very beginning

[gentle cradle]

Yes

[soft raptor]

The main villain is Shigechi from SBR

[pearl wave]

fat boy died over a sandwich

a fitting end

Don't want him back

[gentle cradle]

I wonder if there's a Shigechi in Morioh, and if he's related to the Steel Ball Run Shigechi

[summer tree]

There was a Steel Ball Run Shigechi?

[crystal patrol]

Kanye

[soft raptor]

If Shigechi from SBR is a rock human he could have gone into hibernation

No wonder he moves so fast for a 89 yr

[minor ore]

me trying to understand the dr. wu arc in B&W:

Read more manga then

[minor ore]

so im all caught up with jojolion

its getting crazy now

Yeah

that head doctor might be the main villain of part 8

5 days left for next chapter

HELL YEAH

i caught up on the right time lol

[minor ore]

Theres no right time to get caught up

You'll wait years eventually anyway

I think you're talking about berserk

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 7 !

[white beacon]

Are you saying jjl is going to end in less than a year? Really? Is that really what you implied?

[gentle cradle]

It's a shame Josuke says Ora Ora and not Dorararara

[crystal patrol]

It won’t happen

If it ended in less than a year, that would be terrible

Not enough chapters to come full circle with things in Jojolion

[gentle cradle]

Monthly chapters

[minor ore]

i still wanna know why johnny got his head smashed by a rock

was that ever really explained?

[soft raptor]

We still got another 2-3 yrs

[brazen niche]

I wanna know who thought a Gold Gallardo was worth 3M Yen

[rocky charm]

Araki

In case you haven't noticed, he doesn't understand the real world

[brazen niche]

Is it, though? Or could it be a bad translation that everyone rolled with

[rocky charm]

How could someone mess up translating an amount of yen? It's not like they decided to convert it to another currency

[brazen niche]

Because even if you don't know car prices, you should know a Lambo is gonna be more expensive than a Toyota, even more so when It's gold.

Because translation errors happen.

[gentle cradle]

Oh no! Johnny!

[pale moon]

@minor ore

if you go back and pay attention

the place where johnny lays has those yellow leaves

it teleported a boulder onto his head

[brazen niche]

Does that mean someone used shakedown road to kill him?

[minor ore]

les feuilles* was created right there and he died because of it

[fast stirrup]

what do you guys think the camera-looking stand will be?

its obviously yasuho's ex's

[brazen niche]

When someone mentions shakedown road, I'm pretty sure the leaves are implied.

Are you saying they got created by him and killed him right away?

[grizzled pilot]

autumn leaves

[brazen niche]

what

[grizzled pilot]

that's the stand

[minor ore]

Yes, obviously it wasn't intentional but the "leaves" carried the rock to him

[brazen niche]

When did it become a french name? I thought it was Autumn leaves too.

[minor ore]

i been thinking about reading this part

thing is

i got tests in college coming up

it's not only bad that i might catch up. But also bad that im wasting my time on something not crucial

[minor ore]

Since the first time I read part 8 it was called Les Feuilles, I guess the name change is from a different translation?

[minor ore]

It's Les Feuilles

And has always been? As far as I remember

[rocky charm]

Remember ho Born This Way was originally called Going Underground

And Paper Moon King was originally called Paper Moon

[minor ore]

does this mean that johnny's corpse is holy and powerful now like jesus?

in other words he's a saint now

[knotty mango]

Probably not

[minor ore]

why not

isn't that how the leaves got its power?

[rocky charm]

Wait a sec

Those kana

They fucking say "Autumn Leaves"

So where tf did Les Fuilles come from

[minor ore]

the stand power

idk jojo be changing its stand names all the time

next thing you know soft n wet is king crimson now

[rocky charm]

Wait that's the unedited Japanese page

So its name is Les Fuilles, pronounced as Autumn Leaves

[brazen niche]

yeah. So I guess It's both? lol

Autumn leaves makes more sense than calling it "the leaves" in french

[minor ore]

Paper Moon King was never called Paper Moon???

At least I dont think so

Maybe you're confused cause the arc was called Paper Moon Deception

[dense spoke]

NUT KING CALL

[minor ore]

Don’t all of the Higashikata family have king in the stand names

[knotty mango]

No

[crystal patrol]

All except Hato

Walking Heart

For some reason

[dense spoke]

Soft and wet has no king

[crystal patrol]

Gappy’s doesn’t count since he’s practically adopted

[minor ore]

He’s not blood related

[minor ore]

@crystal patrol dude

WalKING Heart

[crystal patrol]

Oshit

You’re right

Still, not the same

[grizzled pilot]

sorry i'm late to the discussion but yes

it's an avdul/avdol situation

sorta

the katakana is like

pronounced autumn leaves

or something close to it. outamu riibsu or whatever

and that's what the stand is called

but the official english formatting is les feuilles or whatever

which whoever does the scantlating went with because they're lazy

once the anime comes out and they go around yelling it in bad english then it'll be cleared up

tldr it's called autumn leaves

[minor ore]

Either Johnny's corpse granted the land of Les Feuilles or it was Jesus' intervention

I think both are equally good explanations

[grizzled pilot]

balls....

[rocky charm]

@minor ore Sorry I'm late, but it was called Paper Moon when it first released. By the time the volumes came out, Araki decided he wanted "King" in all of the Higashikata Stand names, so he threw "King" on the end

[minor ore]

Im sorry but what happend to josuke

Hes wayyy diferent than in part 4

[grizzled pilot]

got more balls

[minor ore]

Hmmm

[brazen niche]

and a gap between his teeth.

[kind owl]

@brazen niche, Your Stand Power is now level 14 !

[brazen niche]

It's why he's cooler now

[minor ore]

Huh

Im still in part 3 but i was playing eyes of heaven and saw this josuke and i kinda freaked out

[brazen niche]

probably should avoid other channels then to not get spoiled. Although, that game might do it for you

[minor ore]

I kinda know part 1-4 endings because of youtuber who dont know any respect for newer people

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 2 !

[rich hearth]

[brazen niche]

I haven't played EoH but that game covers a lot and is going to spoil the living shit out of JoJo.

[rich hearth]

^

[grizzled pilot]

you are expected to be caught up to play eoh

[rich hearth]

Playing EOH while your barely on 3 is like watching the final movie in a trilogy and your trying to figure out what’s going on

[grizzled pilot]

it's been like 30 years for some of this stuff

[wispy cloud]

Question- I'm on steel ball run, is the manga still being worked on? Like are new parts gonna come out?

[brazen niche]

and at the same time, It's likely to affect your experience with the JoJo series. Both the show & Manga.

Steel Ball Run is completed

[wispy cloud]

@brazen niche no km talking about jojolion which is the current one

[brazen niche]

Oh

Ya

[wispy cloud]

Oh shoot

[brazen niche]

JoJolion is still ongoing. New chapter next week

[wispy cloud]

Cant wait for stone ocean to be animated, if it is of course

[brazen niche]

Are you reading the coloured manga, by the way?

And it should be. Probably some time late 2020 or early 2021.

[stone venture]

I'm a bit worried about this part ending

it's getting kinda close to the point where other parts have ended and we don't even know who the villain is

if this part isn't longer than the others then it might feel rushed

[minor ore]

jojolions up to chapter 84 right?

[spice crystal]

the head doctor part 1

yes

[minor ore]

whens the next chapter coming out?

i just read the entire manga up to jojolion ch 84 in like 6 weeks or so

[spice crystal]

next chapter comes out in 5 days

[minor ore]

i am not used to waiting

is there a set date?

[spice crystal]

every chapter releases on the 18th, but only gets translated by the 19th

[minor ore]

ah i see

thank s

[spice crystal]

so you can look at the images the day before

and read it the day after

[minor ore]

wait which timezone is it the 18th of?

[spice crystal]

im talking GMT

[minor ore]

@stone venture the villain is probably the head doctor

araki said the mani antagonist of jojolion would appear at the end of the part

and there doesn't seem anyone else who would be "above" the entire rokakaka research organization

[void viper]

when did he even confirm that part 8 had a main antagonist

[minor ore]

in an interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbidrtoFC2c

go at 1:33

"The first antagonist ever who'll appear at the end of the story"

nevermind

the subs are fake

oh well

anyway

[void viper]

lol

[minor ore]

still

the head doctors probably the main antagonist at least thats what im putting my money on

[void viper]

my money is on there not even being one

[spice crystal]

head doctor is almost certainly the main antagonist

he is the most fitting

[void viper]

it's just loads of different groups fighting for the fruit

[minor ore]

also

[spice crystal]

seems to have a time based stand

[minor ore]

^

mix between D4C and king crimson

[void viper]

D4C wasn't time based

[spice crystal]

but its an absolute power

[void viper]

we don't actually know what it's power is yet

[spice crystal]

main villain stands are absolute, which normally involves time or reality bending

[minor ore]

what do y'all think is the stand that appeared at the corner of the alleyway they chased the head doctor in?

[spice crystal]

he teleports and he makes the crew unaware of what's happening

[minor ore]

the one which appeared and then insta disappeared

after josuke tried to hit him

[spice crystal]

you mean tooru's stand?

[minor ore]

its his stand?

[spice crystal]

yes

it has the same designs on it

[minor ore]

huh

anyway the rokakaka research organization seems more of a main antagonistic force, they pretty much go against anybody else

they want the power of the rokakaka as well as the money, they think the equivalent exchange and the new rokakaka will bring them to the pinnacle of power

the only actual allies they had were the rokakaka smugglers and theyre all dead lmao

well except for jobin

[void viper]

I think jobin is a third "group"

he doesn't seem to have any ties to the organisation nor is he on josuke's side

[minor ore]

yeah jobin's pretty much doing his own thing now

he wants the branch to expand the fruit parlor, josuke wants it to heal holly, the research org. wants it for money and power

[void viper]

maybe you could consider tsurugi part of jobin's group but we need more info on that situation to say for sure

[minor ore]

i think tsurugi was dragged tbh

[void viper]

yeah maybe but he certainly seems to have changed before that norisuke scene

I might be getting the time line wrong though

the school gates were before that scene right?

[minor ore]

no, the poor tom thing was 10 days before harvest

and the gate was 7 days before harvest

[void viper]

ahh thanks, my memories a bit hazy on all the time skips

there's a diavolo joke in there somewhere

[minor ore]

anyway im predicting the next few chapters will be packed with action if theres only 15 minutes till the harvest

jobin gonna get the rokakaka lmao

@void viper memories erased during erased time?

[void viper]

exactly

[minor ore]

im putting my money on jobin getting the harvested rokakaka anyway

unless the head doctor uses his stand somehow to get it

[void viper]

unless josuke actually listens and goes back to confront him before the harvest

[kind owl]

@void viper, Your Stand Power is now level 16 !

[minor ore]

wu has pineapple hair lol

[void viper]

poor yasuho tho

[minor ore]

ye

[void viper]

getting ignored cause of the plant bloke

[minor ore]

shes dealing with depression, menstrual pain, ignored and not listened all at the same time

[void viper]

: (

[minor ore]

also if the head doctor IS The main antagonist (if there will be one) i can see jobin becoming an ally

[void viper]

as can i

but not because he wants to but more out of necessity

diego style

[minor ore]

yeah his hands would probably be locked by that point lol

[void viper]

let's just hope he doesn't turn out like diego

[minor ore]

yeah

i wonder how bad norisuke's condition is anyway now

i hope hes just unconcious because if he died then ouch

[void viper]

we haven't had a major character death yet

it would make sense narratively for him to be dead

that being said this is a retelling of part 4 where no one major died

unless araki actually considers norisuke on the same level as fucking shigechi which would be insulting norisuke

[minor ore]

funny thing is we dont know anything about satoru he might have a foot fetish and we have to wait 5 days to find that out

[void viper]

literally who?

also lol

[minor ore]

satoru is the head doctor

satoru akefu

anyway

I love how the jojo wiki considers satoru as a minor character

but it may make sense for now, maybe he'll get a wiki page next chapter

[void viper]

oh yeah, that's his name

fun fact about his character actually

not sure if you know but he's actually 89 years old

[minor ore]

89?

Holy shit

no way he is

[void viper]

I know it's pretty incredible

[minor ore]

He is 89 years old?

[void viper]

he's actually 89 years old

[minor ore]

i doubt it

I don't wanna sound like a broken record but

89 years old??

[void viper]

no way

really?!

[minor ore]

theres no way this boi is 89

He looked old in last chapter

its probably just to hide his identity

pinapple hair LMAOOOOOOOO

[void viper]

marge simpson

[minor ore]

He never loses.

[void viper]

except

you know

his only fight

[minor ore]

wu tomoki arc in 7 words:
rock doctor gives miscarriage to a woman

[void viper]

"he never loses, oh sorry never mind"

[minor ore]

he didnt lose his virginity thats fors ure

[void viper]

😳

[minor ore]

Either the main antagonist is the head doctor or there will be no antagonist.
My money is on no antagonist since that's what araki had in mind for part 4 before his editor intervened

And it's kinda late for a main villain reveal

[void viper]

kinda glad his editor intervened

[minor ore]

I refuse to believe Part 4 was planned with no antagonist

[void viper]

kira is a good villain

[minor ore]

Where’s the source

I call total bullshit

^

[void viper]

^

[minor ore]

v

[void viper]

araki said that part 4 was inspired by a serial killer in japan at the time

so obviously he was going to write a serial killer as the main villain

[minor ore]

But there was gonna be no main villain

Until the editor came in and said it needed one

[void viper]

where's the source of this info

[minor ore]

Uhhhh i just remembered i have important business to attend

NIGERUNDAYO

i wonder what the head doctor's stand is

i mean a full explanation of the ability

[minor ore]

We don't even know if he has a stand

[grizzled pilot]

part 4 was barely planned at all

part 4 was araki's "now that i'm done with 3, what am i gonna do with all these cool stands i thought of" part

[minor ore]

Part 4 is the most experimental part yet

Along with 6

@minor ore the head doctor is a rock human

he has a stand

all rock humans have stands

Really?

yes

Was that ever stated?

yes

rai says he's a rock human

Well

he says "his age doesnt matter because he's a rock human"

He thinks he's a rock human

Cause the others were

why would an ordinary person enter the rokakaka chamber thing

[grizzled pilot]

not all rock humans have stands

but most do

we can assume he does

[minor ore]

yeah

else the fact that he just appears in random video footage and seemingly teleports from the alleyway onto a bench wouldnt make sense

[minor ore]

Wym random video footage

Do people actually not know what recordings are

[minor ore]

Oh my god

Finally

Someone agrees with me on the teleport

Wait

I thought you meant the crew gets teleported

Nvm

[pearl wave]

when are we getting a SBR spin off of kanye and his adventure through the Trap desert of soundcloud?

[soft raptor]

🎶I am a rock, I am a Rokaka 🎶

[minor ore]

Guys

Jojolion anime censorship

Moist and dripping

King nut

i am stone

Doggystyle

Dog with style

Or just call it the missionary

Haha sex

Vitamin C

Paisley park is praise the park

Vitamin B

Lmao

You know we have many vitamins

Vitamin d

Because your bones are fragile

King of everything

Without it

Doctor Poo

[soft raptor]

Would be ridiculous if they censor that lol

[minor ore]

Fast king

Ozone kid

[soft raptor]

Vitamin B lol

[minor ore]

Brain thunder

You loosing

Your vitmain b

Lunar Cardboard king

Shakedown trip

Scottish trope key no 1

Amusing amusing amusing

Scottish trope key no 2

Colorful hawaii

Indigo Hawaii

California queen sized bed

[void viper]

speed master

[rocky charm]

Born This Style

[minor ore]

Nut King Call got renamed to Nuts N. Bolts in EOH

Soft & Wet remained the same tho

Also, Cardiac Walking

[void viper]

tell me it aint so

[minor ore]

or Sheer Heart Walk

[rocky charm]

Urban Guerrilla will become City Monkey

[minor ore]

Brainrain

Soft & Wet won't get censored

Why

That's like the biggest thing that needs censorship

But it didn't get changed in the games

Doesn't mean it won't get changed in the anime

It's a prince song/album and prince is very stingy when it comes to copyright

This dude was gonna sue youtube over letting people upload his songs on it, and was gonna sue araki if jojo was released outside japan

[rocky charm]

He's the one who stopped GioGio PS2, right?

[minor ore]

Yeah

Because of gold experience

[rocky charm]

Did the SDC OVA censor any names?

I know in really old games we had Jean Pierre Eiffel

[minor ore]

Vanilla ice was called iced i think

In the ova both iggy and polnareff had their normal names tho

[novel igloo]

doubt soft and wet will be censored

its a rly obscure prince song

[brazen niche]

Still not a risk they want to take, especially with how gunho some corporations are with lawsuits

[rocky charm]

"really obscure"

It's his first song if anything it should be defended the most

[minor ore]

Dude it's one of his most famous singles

[brazen niche]

^

Nut King Call I don't think needs to change though

[minor ore]

Yeah

[rocky charm]

It's already changed from Nat King Cole

[brazen niche]

ya.

[minor ore]

Yep

[rocky charm]

But EoH went ahead and changed it anyway

[minor ore]

Paper moon king too

[brazen niche]

I laughed so hard when I first heard it

[rocky charm]

"What do you mean Higashikata Stands have to have King in the name"

[novel igloo]

prob will get changed to soft bubbles

or soap bubbles or some shit

[rocky charm]

Or Caesar Zeppeli

[minor ore]

Lmao that's the most pussy soundy name ever

[brazen niche]

honestly at first

[minor ore]

Soap bubbles

[brazen niche]

I thought Josuke was a mix of a zeppeli & kira

[rocky charm]

tbf

[brazen niche]

that green lipstick and those bubbles

[rocky charm]

We don't know Josephmi's past

[minor ore]

I thought he was og josuke who was mentoring a new squad like jotaro in p4

[rocky charm]

He might be descended from a Zeppeli

[brazen niche]

well, Josefumi is a Joestar. I figured he's Josephs bastard again

[minor ore]

he has a star birthmark

[brazen niche]

so Kira's uncle & Hollys brother

[rocky charm]

Y'all talking like he can't be both

Maybe the Zeppeli's and Joestars had a kid, ever thought of that?

[brazen niche]

well, his mother wasn't a zeppeli. She was a cuntelli

[minor ore]

We need to know if caesar had a kid tho

[rocky charm]

Caesar's from anoth- oh wait

Right

Caesar, not Caesar

[minor ore]

Caesar definitely fucked

[rocky charm]

Fucking

Can we call him Kaiser

Or Gyro

[minor ore]

Ave

Hail to caesar

[brazen niche]

no

HAIL 2 U

[rocky charm]

Yeah, but Kaiser is how it would actually be pronounced

[minor ore]

Rip my fnv reference

[rocky charm]

Both the original Caesar and Gyro's real name

[minor ore]

Actually in new vegas you can tell who is allied with the legion by the way they pronounce caesar

[rocky charm]

Ik

[minor ore]

Nice touch by the devs

[brazen niche]

haha yeah I remember that

[rocky charm]

My brother loves that game

I need to get into it

[minor ore]

It's really good

[kind owl]

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 20 !

[brazen niche]

last time I played, I did a sword only playthrough with the katana

[minor ore]

[gentle cradle]

I'm in the middle of the 'I am a rock' arc

Part 8 seems unusually heterosexual

[rocky charm]

Disturbingly so

There's no good guy to ship Jousuke with

And now it's all about him and Yasuho

The only saving gayce is in flashbacks

[minor ore]

What happened?

[minor ore]

I just thought of something, wouldn't have Yotsuyu been able to find the rokakaka branch easily?

He could have just gone to the Higashikata Orchard with a branch of his own and used I Am a Rock

[gentle cradle]

Why do the dogs look shit

[minor ore]

Iwasuke's beautiful

[soft raptor]

Rock dogs are unique

[minor ore]

Remember how the Wall Eyes were in the backgrounds of most panels in jojolion until they weren’t

[minor ore]

who cares

[brittle blade]

Jojolion has the least deatsh so far

[minor ore]

Deaths in general or just from the main cast?

Because you could argue that it has more than DiU rn, if you count Kira & Josefumi

[strange mist]

jojolion has t he least death for a 937 chapters manga

[minor ore]

And Norisuke if he's already dead

Bruh i need that new chapter rn. Tsurugi you lil shit

just 5 more days

[white beacon]

I'm pretty sure jojolion only has 84 chapters

And not 937

[minor ore]

Araki's aiming for the long run then

[minor ore]

wait a minute I just realized

is yasuho the koichi of this universe

bruh🗿

[minor ore]

If AU Doppio exists then he can be forgiven

otherwise he is toast

@minor ore that’s even better

[minor ore]

nah I’m out g 🦍

[minor ore]

This friday

[soft raptor]

Jojolion has more death than part 4 already

So many rock humans have been taken out

[void viper]

Probably because gappy’s a madman

He doesn’t take any prisoners

[soft raptor]

Only casualties in Diu were Shigechi,Angelo,Kira and the enigma dude iirc

[void viper]

Remi as well maybe

[soft raptor]

I mean she was died before Diu began

[void viper]

Yeah hence the maybe

[minor ore]

gappy might be my favorite idk

jojo that is

jotaro was my favorite before

[soft raptor]

Not surprised

He’s the manliest JoJo to date

[minor ore]

Gappy is a chad boi

He's got double testosterone production

From his uhhh

Steel balls

[fleet pier]

Only casualties in Diu were Shigechi,Angelo,Kira and the enigma dude iirc
man you're missing a looot of them

enigma's user and angelo never died

also, the original kosaku kawajiri, and aya (Cinderella's user)

also kira's father

[minor ore]

This friday lads.

We get a double jojo friday

New ep + new chapter

[spice crystal]

oh yeah

[brittle blade]

hell yeah

And I will be done with my english language exam by then

[minor ore]

Oh shit

[brittle blade]

it's just a B2 level it's not hard

[void viper]

What is a B2 level

[brittle blade]

reading SBR (or any other part) needs reading comprehension a lot above that

upper intermediate level

[void viper]

Oh is it just like a class test?

[brittle blade]

not really

https://tracktest.eu/english-levels-cefr/

it's not made by schools afaik

and in my country you can't get your diploma without one

[void viper]

WHY IS C HIGHER THAN A

[brittle blade]

even if you don't need language in your field

it isn't

[void viper]

Yeah my brain broke

[brittle blade]

This is how the government tries to keep you away from getting diplomas in Hungary

[void viper]

Trying to comprehend why C is more advanced than A

[summer tree]

C is for

[brittle blade]

it doesn't stand for anything

[summer tree]

Cexcellent

A is for

A-okay

[brittle blade]

also The one I'm doing is approved in the EU and in the states to because it's monolingual

[void viper]

Yeah you’ll do fine in it

[brittle blade]

so If I want to apply for jobs outside my country I can write it in my CV

[void viper]

Just judging by your discord messages you seem to be basically fluent

[brittle blade]

I'm already 2/3rd done with it

Yeah the fact that I'm a nolife nerd helped me a lot with learning English

I just needed quick extra points for my College application

but we are totally off the rails by now

[void viper]

Yeah nice part 8 discussion lads

[brittle blade]

Well there isn't a lot to discuss about right now

even the 89 years old meme had died

[mossy robin]

How the fuck does the wonder ball Stand work.

...

Auto-correct.

[void viper]

Literally who

[brittle blade]

the what?

[mossy robin]

Soccer and wonder aren't the SAME WORD.

[soft raptor]

@fleet pier they got turned into a rock and a book

[brittle blade]

Schottkey?

[mossy robin]

Yes.

[soft raptor]

Might as well be dead

[mossy robin]

Kars isn't dead so they aren't either.

But anyhow, Scottkey 1 and 2 aren't ones I remember that well.

[soft raptor]

Plus am not counting ghosts

[fleet pier]

still not dead

[soft raptor]

Forgot about Dr Aya

[brittle blade]

Will we get to know the head doctors identity in the next chapter?

make your bets

[minor ore]

Yes

[brittle blade]

I say no

[minor ore]

10 million dollars

[void viper]

Mayhaps

[brittle blade]

And a lamborghini

[mossy robin]

If he doesn't I'll just be disappointed.

[summer tree]

I bet

We will see his face

At least

[minor ore]

I hope he has King Crimson for the laughs

[white beacon]

From what I know, the rock hand just kinda moves around to a different surface and that's it, while the soccer ball has some kinda poison cloud thing...?? That's what I remember from the schott keys

[summer tree]

Let's check the wiki

https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Schott_Key_No.1

https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Schott_Key_No.2

[minor ore]

Man those brothers sucked

[white beacon]

Schott Key 1's user is a rock human, but the stand is just a damn rock hand

And hell yeah they did

I blame them for making me forget about karera who is also very forgettable for other reasons but I blame them anyways

[summer tree]

They had a chance to redeem themselves during Vitamin C but they got their asses kicked a second time...or for the first time

[void viper]

Weakest fight of JJL imo

[rich hearth]

Schott Key No.2 is just Purple Hazes little brother

[white beacon]

Also just read for 1 and like, it's so.... Weak...? It just moves shit from one hand to the other

[grizzled pilot]

it's jojo tho

the lame on paper powers are always the best

[white beacon]

Well it's lame on and off paper

[grizzled pilot]

but still

[summer tree]

If Yasuho is alt Koichi
And if Kaera is alt Yukako
Why is Kaera not gay for Yasuho
I demand a refund

[mossy robin]

Yes but even Planet Waves was useful.

Or cool.

Or anything.

[summer tree]

[mossy robin]

If it just moves things from hand to hand that's basically useless.

[grizzled pilot]

useful if you're a stage magician

[minor ore]

It lead to us having another hand to hand fight with josuke so it was cool

[mossy robin]

Speaking of Josuke, Soft & Wet is badass.

[brittle blade]

yes

[minor ore]

DP please don't make it yellow

[mossy robin]

PLEASE DON'T MAKE ORANGE GAPPY.

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK.

Or green Johnny.

Those are all mistakes.

[minor ore]

^^^^^^^^^^

[white beacon]

GREEN GYRO

[mossy robin]

Stop please I'm crying.

[minor ore]

I am dead.

Thanks Jan

[void viper]

Lime D4C

[white beacon]

Valentine in any other colour other than pink, blue, or wh*te

[mossy robin]

Or the cool velvet red he was in one time.

[void viper]

red white and blue

:thinker:

[white beacon]

Damn that multiple colour d4c one from the pv was cool

[minor ore]

I want red and white Johnny

unironically

He’ll obviously be blue

[mossy robin]

They changed blue Giorno.

[minor ore]

but white and red is better

And they fucked that up

[grizzled pilot]

yellow johnny

[mossy robin]

To fucking pink Giorno.

[minor ore]

Pink Giorno is bad

I still think this

[white beacon]

Red D4C with black or purple accents

[fleet pier]

giorno is as far as i know the only character with a definite preferred color scheme

[summer tree]

PURPLE JOHNNY
GREEN GAPPY

[minor ore]

Blue would have been superior