#jojolion

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hushed rover
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But really,the real reason the universes are separate due to the fact that SBR universe is less gay than original universe

novel igloo
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Its too early to make any concrete conclusions though

summer tree
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there's a couple theories and headcanons I like for this

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like

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the SBR universe is where stuff like

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Vanilla Ice's Cream

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or Okuyasu's ZA HANDO

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lead to

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AVDOL IS SOMEWHERE IN THE SBR UNIVERSE MISSING BOTH OF HIS ARMS, WE MUST FIND HIM

hushed rover
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My headcanon is that they just scatter them across multiple universes

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so not necessarily just the SBR universe

novel igloo
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I think the SBR universe could be from puccis reset but thats just me

summer tree
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another thing is I'd like to believe is that this is in fact the Ireneverse
I know everybody says it isn't but I don't care a MAN can DREAM OKAY

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everybody always say it isn't

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based on a single interview

novel igloo
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Theres nothing to say that it isnt

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so idk

summer tree
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where Araki was kind of vague with his wording

hushed rover
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I prefer it being separate tbh, but i agree we don’t have a lot to go on, so there’s no real way to confirm it

mossy robin
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No, there's tons.
Like how Jonathan wouldn't have changed

hushed rover
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Maybe we’ll never know

novel igloo
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Yea idk it doesnt rly matter where the alternate universe takes place

mossy robin
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Especially so drastically.

summer tree
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well in that case how about this crack pot theory

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Jonathan and Johnny can exist at the same time

novel igloo
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Yea

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What if jonathan is alive in SBR universe

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just under a different name

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And johnny has always existed except with a different name as well

hushed rover
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Oh yeah, i read somewhere that SBR universe is different since ireneverse’s counterparts are identical to their original counterparts, while SBR universe are more different

novel igloo
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In the end it doesnt rly matter where it comes from because I doubt it'll be important

hushed rover
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Like what @mossy robin said

summer tree
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honestly I'm just waiting

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for like fucking

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it'll never happen

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it will NEVER happen

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but

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I'm just waiting for like Gappy to be running around

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and a car pulls up

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the window is pulled down

novel igloo
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no

summer tree
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and there's fucking Irene and she's like

mossy robin
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That would be stupid.

summer tree
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"Hey do you know where this address is?"

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I DON'T CARE

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A MAN CAN FUCKING DREAM

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like WHO CARES ABOUT LOGIC AND SUBSTANCE

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ARAKI SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO MY FANFICS

rich depot
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89 years old???

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I don‘t want to sound like a broken record but 89 years old?

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9.4339 x 9.4339 years?!?!?!??

minor ore
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im excited to see the fist fight in this part

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glad araki brought back the hand to hand

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Nothing like a classic ass whopping

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There are some fist fights

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sounds fun

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!ora

kind owlBOT
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ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA

minor ore
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so who is the best Jojolion villain

stark wagon
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Probably damo

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Jobin is a antagonist but he's good too

pearl wave
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I hated damo tbh

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greasy fat man

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His stand was strong, but also super gross

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I liked Wu more either way

soft raptor
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So far it has to be Damo

minor ore
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best fight in part 8 is the beetle fight

rich depot
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I double this

summer tree
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Ojiro is the only reason I have faith in Araki not forgetting everything in Jojolion

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he showed up in Vitamin C

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literally years after his one single appearance

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same with Mitsuba becoming relevant

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I have faith in Araki for Part 8

slender scroll
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guys... its weird that the head doctor is 89, right?

daring lily
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It's hard to believe he is 89

slender scroll
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no but actually watch as araki is trying to set it up like its a huge twist but hes actually is just an old man

daring lily
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I wouldn't doubt it

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im already looking at josuke ending up doing somthing that makes him the bad guy

slender scroll
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i dont think there will be any central bad guy this time honestly

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just a feeling

daring lily
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everyone is in a moral grey area so ide be cool with that

slender scroll
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itd be a lot more interesting than a new character with an other time controlling stand

summer tree
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DAILY REMINDER THAT SPEEDWAGON DIED OF A HEART ATTACK AT 89 YEARS OLD

daring lily
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final fight with head doctor. He loses because of heart attack

minor ore
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I hope Araki doesn't pull a "central bad guy" now, Jojolion is doing a beautiful job at being what he wanted to do in DiU

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A moral grey story where groups fight each other without the need of a main villain

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Hopefully that will get Damo the same respect as people give for AU Diego and the rest of the villains

daring lily
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the way I would accept it though is if the central villian is someone linked to events in steel ball run

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the corpse parts played a role in jojolion, and the rocacaca have a similar power to love train

primal grove
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i 100% agree with Chronicle

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unless araki pulls a M Night Shamaylanaman twist

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and does something like

rich depot
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Speedwagon was an immortal being. Instead of dying he travelled across timelines until he arrived in the SBR universe

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Now he‘s the hospital boss

primal grove
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it was Johnny all along, he is a rock human half breed fused with the corpse parts and the corpse of his wife, attempting to bring her to life and cure them both

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or maybe it's Holly

daring lily
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holy shit

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Well we do know Holly was involved with the doctors

primal grove
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cuz you know, the video that Dr Wu taped to show his sponsors is exactly the same condition as Holly had

daring lily
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she had the rokakaka in her lab

primal grove
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in fact, his job was doing literally everything to stop that from happening

minor ore
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I could accept Araki pulling something like "someone we already know has connections to every antagonist group and is the last enemy in Josuke's way" but I still wouldn't consider whoever it be to be the only main villain

primal grove
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but her age doesn't match whatever that dude's age is

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i forgot

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86?

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something like that

minor ore
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He/she would be one of the main villains with both Damo and the head doctor/Jobin/Caato/whoever's next

daring lily
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I know i sound like a broken record but he 89

primal grove
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yeha, i kinda expect to be like a multi grouped brawl

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bunch of people with their own needs for the rokakaka, going at it

daring lily
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I would be devastated if Josuke has to kill Jobin

minor ore
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Same, but at the same time it's the thing I want to happen

primal grove
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i'd be devastated if Josuke ends up with Yasuho

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and not my man

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the chad

minor ore
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Come on Araki, make me fucking cry

summer tree
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remember the theory

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that Doctor Wu

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was like

daring lily
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I already was hurt by josefumi

summer tree
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manipulating Holly with his stand

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when Yasuho saw her during Born This Way

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cause like

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she mentions her measurements in Born This Way

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and then Mistuba

rich depot
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I‘m 100% sure Araki forgot about Holly

summer tree
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with Doctor Wu inside her

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proceeded to look at her 3 measurements

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so idk

daring lily
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nope, she was mentioned in the last chapter

summer tree
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yeah, there's been frequent check ins with her

rich depot
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Huh I missed that

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Aiight

daring lily
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and the rokakaka lab that wu was in was hers

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Holly is the main villian

summer tree
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idk but like

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I know everybody wants to forget it but like

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if we assume that

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Araki has switched from time stands

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to dimensional stands

minor ore
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We know Holly could be completely responsible for everything that happened since she started the research team, but her being the main villain is still just speculation

summer tree
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like D4C

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then Kaato's stand

daring lily
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I was saying it more as a joke

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Kaato seems to have a stand more like Enigma

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storing stuff in cards

summer tree
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yeah but it seems dimensional so idk

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it's just a theory

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...

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A GAME THEORY

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THANKS FOR UNSUBCRIBING

daring lily
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lol

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it could be

primal grove
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also a thing to remember

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that Speed King has abilities that no one knows off

daring lily
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josuke could sacrifice two balls to save holly's brain!

primal grove
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and while we've seen that he can heat things up

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heat is pretty much air particles

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really

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really

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fast

novel igloo
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It prob literally has to do with speed

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Cuz speed is related to heat

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or some shit

minor ore
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Not 100% true, recent translations read different "speed king has a hidden ability"

daring lily
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yeah, it speeds of particles to creat heat

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but it has a lot of potential

novel igloo
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Or its something completely different

primal grove
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t u n

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t un

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tu n

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the plot chickens

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bawk-kawk

minor ore
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It now says that "Not even Higashikata's family know the abilities of Speed King", which is understandable since Norisuke didn't like sharing info about their stands

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we already know who the main villain is

daring lily
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like your asshole

minor ore
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one of Jobin' s stag beetles

daring lily
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but for real though

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all the stands that are potential enemies seem so damn coolk

summer tree
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can we talk about how a chapter ago they were like

minor ore
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🦀 Norisuke is gone🦀

daring lily
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even paper moon king is really powerful and we don't even know whats happening with it now

novel igloo
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the entir higashikata family has cool stands

summer tree
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"People don't talk about stands with each other"

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and I'm like

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"What the fuck, people talk about them with each other all the fucking time in this series."

minor ore
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they talk about Joshu's haircut

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24/7

daring lily
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fuck that boys hair

minor ore
summer tree
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like read this fucking page

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all of it is bullshit

daring lily
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not completely

minor ore
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also I hate how Daiya and Kyo fucking disappeared

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Araki forgot about them

daring lily
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Daiya is there

summer tree
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I mean

daring lily
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Kyo is gone htough

summer tree
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they didn't disappear

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they're just non relevant

minor ore
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yeah

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I don' t love when that happens

daring lily
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Daiya is a combat focused character

summer tree
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last she appeared was

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Ozone Baby

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Kyo did

minor ore
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Friendly remember that: Since chapter 58* onwards, only 5 days in jojolion time has passed, 4 in which Josuke wasn't in the house. It makes completely fucking sense for Daiya and Kyo not to appear for so long

summer tree
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and that was not that far back

novel igloo
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Yea but its anime

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or manga

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w/e u wanna cal it

minor ore
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the most relevant thing Daiya has done in like 60 chapters is supporting Joshu' s idea of growing mushrooms

novel igloo
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It doesnt have to make sense

summer tree
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I want her to use her stand once

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to get some

mossy robin
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It's nice if it does though.

summer tree
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important information

novel igloo
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dont forget she got licked by joshu

summer tree
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imagine if we just get

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that one

minor ore
summer tree
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single chapter that like

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brings up every single thing

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that we've been complaining about

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like every single thing that seemingly

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"Disappeared"

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all of them at once

minor ore
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that would be great

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but it won' t happen

daring lily
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I know Araki has something big brewing

summer tree
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I mean

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Vitamin C only happened in 2016

daring lily
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those early arcs were more about building up characters and helping understand the Higashakata family

summer tree
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and that brought up several things

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that hadn't been relevant

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since 2011

minor ore
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also

summer tree
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and that's like a 5 year difference

minor ore
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Karera

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where did she go?

summer tree
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like Araki remembered FUN FUN FUN user

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like

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5 years after the fact

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last time she appeared was flashbacks during Vitamin C

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which was about 3 years ago

novel igloo
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Dont think fun fun fun user is supposed to be relevant

minor ore
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do you think we should start writing the list of the main characters that we thini will die?

summer tree
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yeah, he isn't but he was still remembered

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Araki like

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had him reappear

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5 years later

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hell

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same with Mitsuba

daring lily
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Mamezuku

summer tree
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she did nothing

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for 7 years

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and then all of a sudden

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we get a full arc for her

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I'm telling you Araki is just holding out on us

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he knows what he's doing

daring lily
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hell yeah brotha

summer tree
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I mean he might not remember of cover everything

minor ore
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i hope so

summer tree
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but I guarantee we will see some things come through

minor ore
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I mean

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the wall eyes

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we never heard about them after the first chapters, they were like a big mystery

daring lily
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Were the wall eyes cause by Kira's explosion? I remember it casued a earthquake

umbral bough
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Wall eyes is on the araki forgot section sadly

minor ore
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What do you mean? The Wall Eyes are the entire reason why there is a New Rokakaka

umbral bough
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The eyes is gone later on

summer tree
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let me check the last time they appeared

minor ore
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in Kira' s flashback

summer tree
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yeah, and once again Kira flashback is only like

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2-3 years ago

daring lily
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The wall eyes could also just be a indication of the weird things that happened with the fruit and kira quake

umbral bough
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Yeah when the equivalent exchange happend between kira and josefumi the wall suddenly rise

minor ore
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The location of the Wall Eyes are marked in every jojolion volume's map, and drawn ocassionaly when they are in the background

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 6 !

summer tree
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yeah but people are like saying

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"Araki forgot"

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cause he hasn't been drawing them recently

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but you could easily reason they just haven't been

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to areas where the wall eyes are?

daring lily
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He doesn't have to put in every detail in most chapters, with things we already know exist

umbral bough
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Well that hills with the house on top is an example

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The eyes is gone if memory so recall

charred sorrel
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||89||

umbral bough
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SPEEDWAGON?!

daring lily
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I can't believe it... 89

minor ore
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89?

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is that really it?

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89?

umbral bough
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Or is it a sign

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That a speedwagon jojo will be the main prota of part in 9

minor ore
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89 is my new favourite number

charred sorrel
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1989 bizarre summer

daring lily
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well becuase of how fast he was walking, it's a given he is not a normal 89 year old

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I bet he is going to be someone that trasforms their face for no real reason

umbral bough
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Speedwagon secretly know hammon?!

charred sorrel
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i hope the fact that hes old will tie into part 7 in some way

daring lily
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like they actually look young but try to look 89 to fool people

umbral bough
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Speedwagon is fated to be rich

charred sorrel
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in this universe, speedwagon is... NOT A BACHELOR???!!!

kind owlBOT
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@charred sorrel, Your Stand Power is now level 5 !

charred sorrel
umbral bough
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Nah he's a waifu

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Everyone waifu

charred sorrel
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his stand is to be able to explain everything

umbral bough
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Nah he's just wholesome

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His stand is to became wholesome

charred sorrel
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old man is head of hostpital

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speedwagon was head of foundation

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its all coming together now...

umbral bough
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And the old man is pimp rich

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Fated is the keyword we need to dig deep

charred sorrel
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maybe the old man's cane is a shovel

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like speedwagon's trusty shovel

umbral bough
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Speedwagon exist in part 7 and fated to help the joestar
So this could be the speedwagon for the main universe

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But that's mean
Gappy duwang gang just kill 3 potential ally

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Or 2
Poor Tom is.... Question able

minor ore
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poor tom was a chad ngl

pearl wave
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poor tom was chadn't, dude was 100% reliant on his stand

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and was reliant on someone else to transport it

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Now vanilla ice, THAT was a chad

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kicked a dog to death

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epic

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Araki-3
Dogs-0

minor ore
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Vanilla Virgin vs Chad Pucci

solid obsidian
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Maybe I'm just super blind so correct me if I'm wrong but- is it just me, or is Jojolion like, way more explicitly horny than all the other parts?

primal grove
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yeah, araki is going through puberty

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he is what? 59 in his vampire years now

novel igloo
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jojo has always been kinda sexual

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but jojolion is the 1st since part 1

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with an actual relationship

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and even then eh

primal grove
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it's def more explicitly than ever

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panty shots, breast shots and measures everywhere, gropping left and right

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shit's wild

knotty mango
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Part 5 is the horniest

solid obsidian
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I'm not on jojolion yet but every jojolion meme I've seen has been fairly sexual. Tiddies spilling out over shirts, someone getting a bj in the bathroom, josuke's pants falling down and people seeing his bits every 5 panels, etc.

knotty mango
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Those dont happen tahttttttt pften

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They do tho

solid obsidian
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Alright, I'm out, I'll see y'al when I'm caught up on sbr

minor ore
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Actually Karera was only giving the guy hair

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No sexual activity

pearl wave
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You forgot him getting a boner after getting a hug

slender scroll
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its pretty epic

charred sorrel
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ngl paisley park does somethin to me

spiral hemlock
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Gyro is the head doctor

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I’m pretty where we are now is the equivalent of knowing Kira’s name but not his face

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In part 4

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So roughly 3/4 of the way through

pure shoal
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Epic

flat crypt
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part 9 when

stray reef
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never

minor ore
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2021 hopefuly

knotty mango
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Part 7 anime when

sharp briar
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If the hiatus is around 1 year for each part, then prob around 2023

knotty mango
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Sad

knotty mango
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Johnny...

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He got rocked

minor ore
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f

spiral hemlock
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part 7 has 24 volumes and part 8 currently has 20

hushed rover
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I’ve heard a mega theory that AU Joseph also cheated on Suzi Q and is Josefumi’s father

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Big if true

minor ore
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O

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Actually would make sense

hushed rover
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From what we’ve seen, josefumi’s mother is kind of like tomoko as well

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except tomoko gives a shit about her son

minor ore
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Josefumi's mom is hot so i can see why Joseph would cheat

minor ore
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Your stand is like your asshole. You can't go around showing it off to other people

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best quote ever

buoyant summit
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if i had a stand i would show it my friends instantly

minor ore
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they wouldn't see it tho

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if I had a stand I would use it for dumb shit and to make my life as easy as possible

minor ore
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part 8 is more adult oriented cause its not classified as a Shounen anymore

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same with part 7

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its a seinen

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part 8 starts with a girl seeing a boy' s testicles

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literally

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Good start

summer tree
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okay even though

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Part 8 isn't over yet

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I'm gonna make some estimations on how long it's going to be in the anime adaptation so FAR

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Episode 1 - Introduction stuff, pretty standard

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Episode 2 + 3 - Fun Fun Fun fight

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Episode 4 + 5 - Josuke arrives to the Higashikata household and California King Bed happens

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Episode 6 + 7 + 8 - Born This Way and Paisley Park take place, Episode 8 explaining the concept of Josuke's existence with the lemon and oranges

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Episode 9 + 10 - Shakedown Street

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Episode 11 + 12 - We find out what happened to Johnny and we get the Paper Moon King fight

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Episode 13 + 14 + 15: I Am A Rock fight

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Episode 16 - We get some inbetween stuff

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Episode 17 + 18: Stag Beetle battles

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Episode 19 + 20: Doobie Wah

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Episode 21 + 22: Love Love Deluxe

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Episode 23 + 24 + 25 + 26: Vitamin C and Killer Queen

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Episode 27: Milagro Man, maybe Episode 28 too?

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Episode 28 + 29 + 30 - Some more inbetween stuff and BLUE LAGOON

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Episode 31 + 32 - Jobin backstory and we meet Rai

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Episode 33 + 34 - Urban Guerrilla and the whole hair pin Yasuho backstory

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Episode 35 + 36 - Poor Tom and Ozone Baby

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Episode 37 + 38 + 39 - The Hospital Arc

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Episode 40 - Where we are currently in the manga

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so Jojolion is about 40 episodes long so far

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I'm probably way off the mark

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cause page wise Jojolion is longer than SBR

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yet in my estimation for SBR yesterday

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SBR ranged from 48-50 episodes

hushed rover
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SBR might not be that long, since something that takes up 3 pages could be easily animated into a 2 minute scene

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Half of the SBR length comes from scenery porn as well

minor ore
stark wagon
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Are you sure that jojolion is longer than sbr page wise

knotty mango
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Lemme calculate it

knotty mango
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Part 7 has around 4800

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Part 8 has around that

spice crystal
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you spent like 50 minutes on that

knotty mango
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Yeah i counted them

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Part 7 has 4893

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Part 8 has 4863

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Thats not counting stuff that happens in it

minor ore
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I think it's a good estimate, I'm just wondering how did DP animate Stardust Crusaders into 48 episodes when it's only 16 volumes

void viper
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make it drag on for a ridiculous amount of time

rocky charm
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^^^^

summer tree
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it's the most popular Jojo part

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Stardust

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in Japan

void viper
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Doesn’t excuse butchering it in the anime

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I get WHY they did it

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It’s just a shit reason

rigid fern
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No vento is

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And the anime is fine

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"Butchering" is a harsh word

knotty mango
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Yeah vento aureo most popular but not the best

rigid fern
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Thats relative

summer tree
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I swear people always say Stardust Crusaders is the most popular part in Japan

knotty mango
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Sure

summer tree
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you know cause of like Jotaro and all that

rigid fern
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Theyre wrong

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The most recent poll

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https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/JoJosapiens This has the translations for all of them

JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia

JoJosapiens (ジョジョサピエンス Jojosapiensu) is a Stand designed by Hirohiko Araki in commemoration of the opening of Hirohiko Araki JoJo Exhibition: Ripples of Adventure. The Stand appertains to a fan...

primal grove
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the recent pool was also taken by westerns

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more than ever

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and yeah, SDC is by far the most popular in japan

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not the most liked, but by far the most popular

rigid fern
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Like some westerns took it sure but it was in japanese

primal grove
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Vento Aureo is the most liked in japan, SBR in the west, and the most popular is SDC

rigid fern
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Vento aureo is most popular in japan

primal grove
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not in the slighest

rigid fern
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Where are you getting this info from

knotty mango
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This is most liked

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Not most popular

rigid fern
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Whats the difference

primal grove
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uuuh

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Twilight is popular

knotty mango
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🤦

rigid fern
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Popular means the most people liking it

primal grove
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would you say it's liked?

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no it doesn't

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at all

knotty mango
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I dont have nitro

dense spoke
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7>5>4>3>8>2>1>3

primal grove
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Justin Bieber is popular, is he liked?

knotty mango
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^

primal grove
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Osama bin ladden is popular

knotty mango
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Exact

primal grove
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is he liked?a

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and so on and so forth

knotty mango
#

There’s a difference

rigid fern
#

Popular: commonly liked or approved

dense spoke
#

I put 3 above 8 whoops

rigid fern
#

You all are thinking of well known

#

Or notourious

primal grove
#

hence the term "infamous"

#

you're famous, not liked

dense spoke
#

7>5>4>last half of 3>8>2>1>first half of 3

#

There you go

rigid fern
#

If you have any proof whatsoever that part 3 is the most popular @ me

#

Cause from my evidence that I put part 5 is the most popular

primal grove
#

that's not an evidence

rigid fern
#

Its a poll

knotty mango
#

Probably because it’s being animated rn

primal grove
#

aboout popularity, not likeness

#

popular doesn't mean liked, sorry

#

again, "infamous", large popular criminals

#

they're not liked

rigid fern
#

Dude if you seriously dont know what most popular means and dont agree with the definition of it then obviously youre going to have different opinions

#

But just because that myth got spread around in the fandom doesnt make it true

primal grove
#

i can literally say the same thing to you

rigid fern
#

LOOK IT UP

primal grove
#

again

#

have you ever heard of the word

#

infamous?

rigid fern
#

Thats not the same thing

#

Well known and popular are not the same things

#

Popular is commonly liked

#

Infamous is well known in a negative light

#

Jesus dude

primal grove
#

alright, then i'll correct myself

knotty mango
primal grove
#

SDC is the most famous

knotty mango
#

Its one of many definitions

rigid fern
#

You might be able to say its the most recognizable

primal grove
#

VA is the most liked

rigid fern
#

But its not the most popular in japan

primal grove
#

SBR is the most liked in WEST

#

sdc is the most famous

#

of all parts

#

everywhere

rigid fern
#

Again

#

Thats not what you were disagreeing with me

primal grove
#

yeah, and i said

#

"i'll correct myself"

#

??

rigid fern
#

SBR is the second highest rated manga of all time

knotty mango
#

I dont like that VA is the most liked tbh it has a lot of flaws but hey let em think what they want

#

YES

#

SOMeone knows

#

mal did something good for once

rigid fern
#

It deserves it

knotty mango
#

^

rigid fern
#

that shits the only manga jojo part that ill read from start to finish on car rides

knotty mango
#

7 is absolutely perfect

#

Except the start

#

Though part 4 is personally my favourite

supple coyote
#

Holy shit

primal grove
#

once it goes to ultra jump

knotty mango
#

Because i like SOL

primal grove
#

it's gureato

#

oh def, i recognize that SBR is objecvitely best written

#

but it's not my favorite part either

dense spoke
#

Yeah but when it changes to ultra jump

#

Rip -18 year old jojo fans

primal grove
#

as if that ever stopped anyone

dense spoke
#

Still.

#

It's illegal isn't it?

#

So you gotta do it the legal way.

primal grove
#

i don't think it is

#

there's not really a "age" tag to it

#

it's more of "recommended for young boys"

#

and the other is "for young adults"

#

but there's no age number to it

dense spoke
#

Insert the fact that it has nudes here and there

primal grove
#

or any restriction in the sense of "you gotta be X years" to buy

#

well, shonen also did

#

nip splis everywhere by araki

#

back in the 90's

#

it's not about nudity, it's about the overall contents

dense spoke
#

There is one in the manga as far as i can recall when it was shonen

#

When they were checking out trish

primal grove
#

politics, violence, science fiction, relationships

#

in fact, it doesn't even mention nudity in the "differences" between shonen and seinen

#

action, politics, science fiction, fantasy, relationships, sports, or comedy.

#

the description of contents within a seinen magazine

#

shonen however is martial arts, robots, science fiction, sports, terror, and mythological creatures

#

not to mention for example, shonen is from 12 to 18

#

in terms of target demographic

#

then we get things like Dragon Ball

#

with kid goku feeling bulma up

#

master roshi's shenaningans as well

spiral hemlock
#

it just refers to target audience

primal grove
#

pretty much

#

it's not the same as the western movie or comics age restrictions

dense spoke
#

@knotty mango What's SOL? just asking

knotty mango
#

Slice of lif

#

e

dense spoke
#

Boy 2 man sucked

minor ore
#

"Sbr is the most high rated manga of all time"

#

Yeah according to MAL

#

I'd also say that part 3 is the most popular in the well-known sense

dense spoke
#

Jojolion is not very popular because it's not finished.

spiral hemlock
#

part 8 is better than part 3

rigid fern
#

Part 3 is the most well known at least in the west and by that I mean that jotaro is

knotty mango
#

Even though part 3 suck

#

Smh\

dense spoke
#

Part 3 big sucky

#

Alessi

#

Strength

#

But better than Joshu tbh

stark wagon
#

berserk is the most high rated manga of all time on MAL

knotty mango
#

Yeah

rough ermine
#

Hot take, none of the parts suck.

knotty mango
#

Hot take read my essay in manga spoilers

#

Wrote why i love every part up to 4

spice crystal
#

no part truly sucks

knotty mango
#

Didja read it?

soft raptor
#

Hot take: Berserk is overrated mid

scarlet viper
#

I’ve been reading Jojolion for the past month maybe and I just finished Chapter 55 where Damo gets his shit kicked in by Hato and Josuke/Josefumi

#

I hope this part gets better and better !

#

I love the characters so far and the unfolding story

#

Excited to see where it goes from here

minor ore
#

it gets better

scarlet viper
#

So hyped

#

Idk why I held back for so long to read this part

minor ore
#

I started it as soon as I finished SBR

scarlet viper
#

I still get a bit confused about soft and wet sometimes

#

I have to reread some chapters to understand everything

#

Especially during the stag beetle fight with Jobin

#

If I didn’t read the wiki I wouldn’t have known he used his stand to put the wasps poison in Jobins brush

#

But overall great part

kind owlBOT
#

@scarlet viper, Your Stand Power is now level 1 !

minor ore
#

god, Jobin is so good

scarlet viper
#

He seems cool

#

I think the next arc is about him

#

The one after Dato

minor ore
#

did you read the flashback about Josefumi, Karera and Kira?

scarlet viper
#

I love how at the end of the arc Joshu just ends up crawling out of the manhole

#

I died reading that

#

And yeah I’ve read the flashback

#

Very interesting

minor ore
#

Kira and Jobin are my favourites in this part

scarlet viper
#

Araki made Killer queen more OP

#

Haha

#

Alright I’m off to catch up to the current chapter

minor ore
scarlet viper
#

What’s the most recent Chapter number ?

minor ore
#

84

scarlet viper
#

30 to go

#

Awesome

brittle blade
#

What is the joshu manhole arc?

knotty mango
#

Idk

minor ore
#

Guys

#

I think that ball in Aphex brothers battle

#

Is reference

#

To this track

#

That’s why Araki selected ball as an weapon

#

I suppose

scarlet viper
#

@brittle blade

#

Also oh no

#

I’ve caught up with the coloured scans

#

I don’t know if I can bring my self to read black and white

void viper
#

Just read black and white it’s not that bad

stark wagon
#

Black and White is great

knotty mango
#

Colored is better

void viper
#

Coloured is better, but black and white isn’t bad

minor ore
#

More of colored will come soon

#

But not all of it

#

go read B&W

brittle blade
#

SBR Joseph is 87 and in BT Ceaser is 2 years older than Joseph, so would that mean we're hunting gyros long lost weeb grandson?

hollow forge
#

Y’all ready for a month of waiting

minor ore
#

Yeah since the Urban Guerilla arc

pearl wave
#

Ight, so whatchu mean "is with kira"

umbral bough
#

Kira kujo

#

Since kira is always with his mom before he was a marine

#

And the doctor have crazy diamond type of stand

pearl wave
#

How do we know what the head doc's stand is?

umbral bough
#

Cause from last chapter the kid is in fatal condition

pearl wave
#

o

umbral bough
#

And now it says the kid only have a scratch

#

Or tsurugi change of heart change his stand

#

It's either those 2 tbh

pearl wave
#

could also possibly be tooru

#

He's around the kid afterall

umbral bough
#

Nah the elementary school one

#

The one where the gate suddenly close

pearl wave
#

for some reason i was thinking they were the same one

#

I doubt tsurugi's stand changed

#

especially to a healing one after killing someone

umbral bough
#

Change of heart means new stand

#

In jojolion

pearl wave
#

*possibly killing someone

umbral bough
#

@pearl wave the head doctor is also there remember

pearl wave
#

But it also has to fit the users spirit

#

you mean when the kid is crushed

#

or when the kid is worked on

umbral bough
#

Either it's the head doctor stand

#

Or tsurugi can make illusion

#

To make it looks like fatal

pearl wave
#

That's possible as well

kind owlBOT
#

@pearl wave, Your Stand Power is now level 8 !

pearl wave
#

seeing as how the kid was still injured, I'm going to lean more towards that

umbral bough
#

Yeah araki really make a cliffhanger this month jotarosweat

#

Way harder than MiH

pearl wave
#

we still don't know anything about norisuke either

umbral bough
#

Well looking at the conditions

pearl wave
#

I think he's dead

umbral bough
#

Tsurugi won't kill him

pearl wave
#

but araki is hesitant to actually kill characters

umbral bough
#

Tsurugi isn't like his own dad

pearl wave
#

He wasn't

#

but it seemed like his dads message really resonated with him

#

as you said, a possible change of heart

umbral bough
#

Yeah Gappy manage to do it

#

But it's not 100%

#

Paper moon still on the process of change of heart

#

But I won't be surprised at this point if the real antagonist is gappy

#

There will be a scenario where its holy or tsurugi will get the fruit

#

And knowing holy...
In the end
You fucked up gappy

minor ore
#

Hot take

#

Jojolion is better in b&w

umbral bough
#

I never read manga in color

#

Seems weird sometime

minor ore
#

is this whole part seriously just a meme

#

No?

umbral bough
#

Yeah kinda

#

It's equivalent exchange circling

#

The plot objective is just the same thing and araki keeps telling us how it works

#

Sure it's better to be explained how it works
But again and again and again

#

Feeling like hayato the last 5 year

#

Not to mention rohan GUCCI

pearl wave
#

Is this part a GUCCI factory?

umbral bough
#

Nah its the gucci gang with Bucci

knotty mango
#

Yes

nimble pelican
#

You know what would make an unexpected twist for who this parts villian is? It's Kars.

umbral bough
#

I'm preety sure it's still anyone
Even gappy

#

It's like part 7
Johnny isn't the good guy

#

But he's the protagonist

minor ore
#

Nvm

#

Gucci gang

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 11 !

minor ore
#

I stupid

#

Oof

soft raptor
#

Stand bag hype

odd monolith
#

just finished ch65

#

fucking Doggystyle

#

srsly

#

hahahahaha

#

I mean I love it just

#

wew

#

btw has anyone attempted making the Romanoff?

soft raptor
#

Am still not convinced the head doc is the main villain either

umbral bough
#

He's 89...
89

#

Speedwagon confirmed bene

#

Probably died before or at the end of jojolion

#

So don't know

minor ore
#

Araki can kill Josuke

#

Because Kya isjoestar

#

So she can became a mother to a new joestar

#

So Araki can kill Gappy without affecting joestar bloodline

white beacon
#

I hate that people forget that joseph, and george the second, literally have siblings

#

In this universe

minor ore
#

yes

#

New Joestars could be their grandchildrens

white beacon
#

Literally josephmi could be one of their grandchildren

minor ore
#

Literally Johnny could make some children before SBR

white beacon
#

But people be like "oooooh it's just joseph's illegitimate son again" which! Is actually kinda close in a way, especially cuz josefumi uses "josephmi" as a decorative name on his phone

minor ore
#

when he had threesome

#

With two girls

#

He was a little bit perverted back then

scarlet viper
#

Jojolion is so weird 😮

#

10 chapters till I catch up

soft raptor
#

Good weird DiegoYeet

umbral bough
#

Good shit for a weird ass shit

brittle blade
#

I think i know why i dont like this part too much

#

There is way too much retconning in it to be enjoyable

#

Like there is so much key element that you can skip the first half of the story

void viper
#

I agree actually, like the wall eyes haven’t been mentioned in literal years and the fusion stuff has been forgotten

#

It feels like the first half was finding out josukes identity and the latter half was “fruit chase”

#

And there’s not that much to connect the two

umbral bough
#

What's bad is that araki keeps explaining the rokaka fruit and equivalent exchange

#

It's like he keeps forgot that he already explain it

soft raptor
#

Well wait until the part actually ends before saying there have been retcons

#

Yh the second part of the story has been a bit disjointed

odd flume
#

why would araki create a secret company like higashikata fruit parlor

#

if johnny had legs

#

he would have not died

#

and dodged that

#

enourmus rock

#

and no readers would cry

minor ore
#

He walks at the end of SBR

odd flume
#

welp hes dead so hes dead

white beacon
#

the fruit parlor isn't secret though? like, a whole lot of food and other companies that use fruit rely on the higashikata fruit parlor

odd flume
#

but behind the scene, its a freaking rokakas smuggle?

white beacon
#

no...?? the rokakaka smuggling is a different thing, even norisuke doesn't use them for the fruit parlor

odd flume
#

i dont really read jojolion

#

but it says

#

its a fake name for the rokakakas smuggling?

white beacon
#

what

#

where

odd flume
#

lemme get it

#

there

#

it clearly

#

says it

white beacon
#

ohhh, i was just thinking about norisuke, and how he doesn't like jobin's methods

odd flume
#

PFF

kind owlBOT
#

@odd flume, Your Stand Power is now level 4 !

white beacon
#

huh, i forgot jobin was using it for the smuggling

scarlet viper
#

Why didnt Josuke and crew get some of the fruit or branches from the Doctor UU's Laboratory?

#

is there something special about the grated one?

odd flume
#

who nose

white beacon
#

but that's a minor thing, the fruit parlor still isn't secret, just the smuggling

odd flume
#

well its a cover

scarlet viper
#

They just destroyed all the fruit

odd flume
#

have u ever notice that Norisuke kinda looks like Valentine XDD

#

the IV one

white beacon
#

yes because they already know about the old rokakakas, and they don't know what the grafted one can do

odd flume
#

stone humans

#

and rokakaka

#

such name

scarlet viper
#

It has the same properties right? Don't they just want to grow a fruit for Holly?

#

They could have just grabbed one

odd flume
#

Ara iyada!

#

dont ask me

#

i know nothing about jojolion

#

havent read it

#

looking for somebody to tell me about the stuff

white beacon
#

we're not really sure if it does have the same properties as the old rokakakas, it could even be better by eliminating the rock disease entirely

#

but they probably destroyed the old rokakakas cuz like, they bad anyways

scarlet viper
#

I guess that could be an explanation

#

Doctor UU was dead though

#

It shouldnt have mattered

white beacon
#

i mean, the head doctor is still alive, so as long as he's still kicking, there's sitll a chance for the rokakakas to be mass-produced and spread about

scarlet viper
#

I guess it's a small grime for now

#

Hopefully we see a main villain soon

#

or maybe we already have

white beacon
#

maybe it's tooru

scarlet viper
#

Tsurugi and Jobin go

white beacon
#

or maybe, it's josuke himself

scarlet viper
#

I hope we see more of Hatos stand

#

That fight was awesome

#

The fight at the ski lift was also cool

minor ore
#

The doctor is not even a doctor

scarlet viper
kind owlBOT
#

@scarlet viper, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

maiden cargo
#

wait the head doctor is 89?!?!

stark wagon
#

can you believe it

kind owlBOT
#

@stark wagon, Your Stand Power is now level 9 !

stark wagon
#

89 years old

#

I can't

knotty mango
#

Speedwagon?

#

?????????

pearl wave
#

Head doctor= speed wagon

#

The only fitting position for an AU speedwagon

flat crypt
#

Its joseph

minor ore
#

it' s Gold Experience Requiem 2 Over Heaven' s door

opaque path
#

I've only read like. 7 volumes.
But I need to know.
Do any more Josuke's come out of the fucking woods.

spice crystal
#

not really

knotty mango
#

Nope

#

Well actually

scarlet viper
#

guys

#

8

#

9

#

YEARS OLD

pearl wave
#

Eighty Nine!

charred sorrel
#

i hate to sound like a broken record but... 89 years old?

knotty mango
#

8 8 8 998989889

pearl wave
#

What if the main antagonist of part 8 are the friends we made along the way?

knotty mango
#

SPEEDWAGonnn

charred sorrel
#

what if the main antagonist of part 8 is 9?

scarlet viper
#

The main antagonist is Yasuhos mum

#

change my mind

minor ore
#

wait

#

the main antagonist of part 8 could be 9

#

tsurugi is 9

heady vigil
#

@pearl wave GappySurprised

kind owlBOT
#

@heady vigil, Your Stand Power is now level 3 !

heady vigil
#

Good bot!

pale moon
#

jojo is the only series that can make stag beetle fights look super interesting

scarlet viper
#

That's where you're wrong

#

Joshu made the fight interesting JoshuHeh

knotty mango
#

Joshuuu

spice crystal
#

Joshu man bad

minor ore
#

the main villain is Joshu' s haircut

brittle blade
#

The journey is the main villain

flat crypt
#

The main villain is Kishibe Rohan who hates josuke

odd flume
#

JOJO

brittle blade
#

Hirohiko Araki reveals that you the reader were the main villain all along

pearl wave
#

Well I mean, we are

#

the antagonists of life

#

Man

#

Deep

brittle blade
#

14 year olds

#

Weeping cat

#

Btw

#

What if this whole part is just a very long jojoke?

minor ore
#

it would be cool

pearl wave
#

That would be the best outcome

knotty mango
#

You ever think araki had no clue what he he was doing and just went with the flow

white beacon
#

i'm pretty sure that's exactly what araki does

minor ore
#

That's literally what he does

pearl wave
#

Hasn't he even admitted to doing that?

flat crypt
#

Yeah, he doesn't have a story board

#

He just goes with the wind

#

That's why he forgets

grizzled pilot
#

he does plan ahead

#

but certainly not for everything

flat crypt
#

It's hard to believe Araki is kinda old

#

It will be a sad day when we lose the araki

minor ore
#

He has a storyboard

#

He doesnt improvise 100%

#

kinda old

#

man he is 50

#

he is not old

#

also Araki gets 10 years of life for every jojo part he writes

#

Araki must not be underestimated

#

He lives a very healthy lifestyle

#

He can keep doing manga till his 80s

#

^

#

He's like 54?

#

But imo he looks 40

#

People call him a vampire but in reality he's a hamon master

#

He's said it himself.

#

he is a Pillar Man

brittle blade
#

hey

#

I know we all meme Joshu pretty hard but

#

what are your thoughts about him sincerely?

spice crystal
#

i like him

#

a lot

#

he is a genuinely well made character

brittle blade
#

thank you

#

he is unlikable but understandable

spice crystal
#

his actions are somewhat justified

#

if extremely over the top

brittle blade
#

and his character represent a modern issue

spice crystal
#

like being angry and confused at your sudden 'mum' appearing

#

and wanting her to go away

#

so instead of acting normally he asks to suck on her tits

#

which is a genuinely good character trait

brittle blade
#

loneliness and being lost as youth in the internet age

minor ore
#

I like him as a character a lot but he is not such a good person

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Stand Power is now level 16 !

minor ore
#

also I feel bad for him

#

a lot

brittle blade
#

ye

#

I would give him a hug honestly

minor ore
#

he is condamned to live with that haircut

brittle blade
#

also the milagro man arc could totally work as a one shot

minor ore
#

He's butthurt

#

And didn't drink his milk enough

#

well, the only time I really genuinely disliked him was when he tried raping Yasuho

#

fucking Valentine wannabe

brittle blade
#

oh in the paper moon deception arc

mossy robin
#

He wasn't raping her.
He thought it was consensual.

knotty mango
#

Yeah

#

Doesnt make him a not dickhead

mossy robin
#

^

#

Good character doesn't mean likable character.

knotty mango
#

Johnny

#

Is a good example of this

dense spoke
#

Joshu bad.

knotty mango
#

Yeah sure buddy.

dense spoke
#

What?

#

Many people find him bad

knotty mango
#

He isnt bad

spice crystal
#

they dislike him as a person

#

and that is valid

knotty mango
#

Hes a terrible piece of shit sure

spice crystal
#

he is very unlikable

knotty mango
#

But he’s a good character

spice crystal
#

but he is a well done piece of shit

knotty mango
#

He out it better

#

Put*

brittle blade
#

It takes a lot of skill to write a character this unlikable

knotty mango
#

Kirito took skill to write appearently

brittle blade
#

I haven't watched sao

minor ore
#

I like Joshu

#

As a character

knotty mango
#

Commit toaster bath

#

Oh

#

Good

white beacon
#

i mean, joshu was already unlikeable from day one

#

and that's... concerning

minor ore
#

Joshu was scarier in his debut

#

Idk why

#

He seemed more like a mongoloid

white beacon
#

just gets ready to smash someone's head in with a large rock

knotty mango
#

Yeah

white beacon
#

yeah, joshuu was killer in his debut

knotty mango
#

I thought he was going to be like leaky eye lucah

#

He reminded me of him too

brittle blade
#

nah he seemed desperate

#

Joshu has no fire in his eyes

knotty mango
#

He had no eyes for a while.

brittle blade
#

I'm 100% sure that he will not kill anynone in jojolion

white beacon
#

didn't he kinda somewhat did with that guy at the end of milagro man?

knotty mango
#

I am 100% hoping he dies to the main villain like shigechi

velvet heron
#

what kind of music do you guys listen to while reading this part?

spice crystal
#

sticky fingers

knotty mango
#

None

dense spoke
#

When did joshu appeae

#

Chapter 30 something??

knotty mango
#

First chapter

dense spoke
#

Ohhh

brittle blade
#

no music

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I can't conectrate on reading with music

knotty mango
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But joshu can make for some good memes

dense spoke
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the blank sounds of wind are bothering tho