#jojolion

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minor ore
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No @hushed rover

hushed rover
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Remmber when she took a photo with them but in flashbacks neither josuke or Kira knew about her

minor ore
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You mean Karera and Gappy?

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You mean Karera?

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She knew them

hushed rover
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Yeah that

minor ore
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She was stalking Josefumi

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Karera recognized Gappy as Josefumi which was in fact her* friend

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And we saw that

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She knew Kira too

hushed rover
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But her attitude about Kira made it seem like she knew him personally

minor ore
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She was there during the boat fight

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I think she was just suspicious about him

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Josefumi and Kira did know her, hell they even called her as a distraction when Damo attacked them in the boat

hushed rover
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Well, I guess the whole sheer heart attack thing gave her a bad impression

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But wasn’t it in the same timeframe when josefumi and Kira were talking about how they didn’t know her?

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when they were on the boat and got attacked

keen furnace
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did we ever learn why nobody was looking for the missing Joesfumi? just uncaring parents?

minor ore
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From what I remember they never talked about her as a stranger, but I read Vitamin C like a year ago so I might be wrong

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@keen furnace Pretty much, his mother almost let him drown one time

hushed rover
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From the flashbacks it looked like his mother viewed her son as a hindarance

minor ore
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Josefumi a she

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Karera was looking for him tho, it's just that she is homeless so

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 10 !

keen furnace
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plottwist

minor ore
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Idk every main jojo has one parent

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@minor ore pronouns are hard mmm'kay?

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Like either the other one died

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Or gone

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🤣

keen furnace
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what was the deal with that basement room where it looked like it was meant to keep someone there?

kind owlBOT
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@keen furnace, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !

keen furnace
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with toys, and a sailor outfit

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I'm reminded because I think Yatsuyu started living there during construction

minor ore
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Tsurugi said something about Josuke living/being there before

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So probably either Josefumi or Kira stayed there

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So Norisuke has 2 sisters

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And Jobin is supposed to take the name Norisuke V Higashikata

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Yep, maybe one of those sisters married a Kujo and that's where Josefumi came from?

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No wait we already saw his mom nvm

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His mom doesn't have birthmark so i guees it's from dad

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Wait maybe the man in flashback is Josefumi's dad

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Norisuke straight up said that Holly has the same illness, so Kira was fated to have the same destiny too, huh

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That'd make sense, we where always talking about Kira's dad but forgot about Josefumi's dad

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So Georgie had 4 children

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Joseph gave birth to Holy

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But not shown where Josefumi is from

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Josefumi's mom may be Holly's cousin

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Rina's death year not shown

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inb4 the 4th doctor

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Still alive

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bamboozled again by araki

hushed rover
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inb4 main antagonist is a descendant of valentine or diego brando who somehow survived being wiped out of existence

minor ore
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And arc is called "Ghosts from the past"

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I swear to god if Diego comes back i'm quitting jojo and refunding every merch i have

hushed rover
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inb4 65 Kars on Mars is a plot point

keen furnace
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hm yeah so, isn't it implied that Higashikata's have the corpse,

minor ore
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Jesus's? No, USA Federals took it

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No

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@minor ore yeah

keen furnace
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oh

minor ore
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Johnny's buried in Morioh tho

keen furnace
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wasn't something related to the corpse enabling the success of their orchard

minor ore
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Sad

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No I dont think so

keen furnace
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yeah nm they started it long before

minor ore
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It is implied that Johnny caused the equivalent exchange via the holy corpse

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But it stayed even when it was retrieved

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Johnny's corpse created Les Feuilles

stark wagon
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Diego actually didn't died just hid in a coffin and has been alive since

minor ore
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inb4 AU Diego's son attacks Gappy with King Crimson

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then his black boyfriend Gucci becames the antagonist of part 9 with his stand White Made Moon

keen furnace
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I need Jolyne alternate protagonist

minor ore
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Who needs an alternate Jolyne protagonist when we have Caato alternate Jolyne antagonist?

keen furnace
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🤔

minor ore
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Kakyoin would smash Kaato

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Emerald Splash her

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But he a donut

hushed rover
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imagine an alt universe king crimson in this part that is consistent with it's powers

minor ore
hushed rover
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like people say that king crimson only skips time and that it doesn't literally erase time, then how come aerosmith's bullets went through diavolo at the end of the metallica fight?

minor ore
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@hushed rover and Bruno punched himself

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Araki didn't think when making KC

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I just realized that King Nothing was used just once in the entire part

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It was used to track down the rokakaka

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On jobin

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And might be used now since norisuke is getting some spotlight

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Alot of stands were like that @minor ore

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Kyo, Hato, Daiya

hushed rover
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i want to see more of NUTS AND BOLTS

kind owlBOT
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@hushed rover, Your Gangstar cred is now level 16 !

minor ore
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I know but at least they're still alive you know

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Araki forgot

hushed rover
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norisuke and jobin are very likely to die

keen furnace
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the "main" villain of Jojolion better not have another time related stand

minor ore
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Nah, it will have to do with space

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Like Valentine's dimension swapper

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Caato's

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Can we even call that a Stand

hushed rover
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My Stand [STRESSED OUT] has the ability to physically eat time!

minor ore
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Caato's Walking On Sunshine

hushed rover
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seriously tho they've done every time trope with eveyr main villain stand

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stopping time, rewinding time, erasing time, speeding up time

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what else can they do

minor ore
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Why isnt it a stand?

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It was shown before

keen furnace
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hmm so what if we get two villains using the equivalent exchange to become like Gappy

kind owlBOT
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@keen furnace, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

minor ore
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I mean it's kinda weird

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It only stores stuff

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It's a stand nonetheless

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No idea how would she fight someone

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With it

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Uh

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We saw like a page and a half of her stand

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Maybe some tricks like hide a gun

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Store deadly stuff

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Throw

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There could be lots of stuff we don't know

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Like Valentine did

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Maybe she can store people's parts or something

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Oo

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And Araki could still retcon her ability

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That'd be interesting

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Part 3: we knew dio but not his stand
Pat 5: we knew king crimson but not diavolo
Part 6: we knew pucci and whitesnake from the beginning
Part 8: main villain what

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I'd say Caato or a new character are the most plausible main villains

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part 4 : We knew KQ and Kira but not how he looked

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Like after he bomb'd Aya

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I'd love it if it where Caato or jobin
Someone that we kinda knew and was teased would be ok
but a completely new character would feel underwhelming for me

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^

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Jobin just doesn't work tho

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Imo

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He's perfect for a secondary villain but not a main villain

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Especially when he seems to be working for Caato

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Yes

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Caato if we see more of her in bikini

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She would be the first female main villain

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Oh shit yea

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And the second hottest main villain after Kars Smugechi

hushed rover
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ayayayaya intensifies

green nacelle
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hah I see Araki giving 0 fucks again

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Nope train

keen furnace
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there's no point in resisting

novel rune
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what rohiyo rohandisgust refuse yey rohan emojis refuse rohandisgust rohiyo what

steady sundial
keen furnace
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for all the amazing fruit in part 8, you'd think we'd get some cover art full of it

spice crystal
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i want a cover in the fruit parlour

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with josuke, mamezuku and yasuho eating fruit and tsurugi and jobin in the back looking sinister

keen furnace
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me too, but it all crispy now 😦

spice crystal
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i still fuckin want one

keen furnace
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oh the parlour not crispy just the orchard

clear mountain
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I can see why Araki likes to draw the branch so much

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Branches that have flowers and fruit growing on them look really aesthetically pleasing

keen furnace
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hey why was Kira so mad about that surfer

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did he really make him eat his own fingers

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like I get that here are some parallels between equivalent exchange, and like not deciding if you're a land or ocean person

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but idk, seems like a loose end

minor ore
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Idk why

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Kira being Kira ig

spice crystal
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he’s a bitch

minor ore
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Yo when we talkin bout villains having time related stands

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I hope Araki doesn't use time travel cars

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Card*

ebon pulsar
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imagine jobin or anyone else using the new rokakaka to like upgrade their stands

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and maybe main villain uses it to get time powers

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and imagine someone having diego's corpse just for that

minor ore
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Jobins stand still has unknown power

ebon pulsar
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the diego one might not happen but we have seen stuff like that happen so

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oh yea

minor ore
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It is said heat control is just a small fraction of his powers

ebon pulsar
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tbh i really think the antagonist is jobin

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imagine him somehow creating black holes since they r extremely hot on outside

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but they are freezing cold on inside

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maybe his stand's power is to control temperature but he has only awakened the heat

minor ore
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What if he can run rly fast

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And that's what produces the heat

ebon pulsar
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i dont think that is the case XD

minor ore
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Ye ik xD

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Just a joke

ebon pulsar
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yea i got it XDD

keen furnace
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run so fast he can break the space time continuum

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TIME TRAVEL

minor ore
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MY NAME IS JOBIN HIGASHIKATA AND I AM THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE

ebon pulsar
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lets see how araki introduces the antagonist

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i like how some people are like"imagine part 9 being the connecting of both universes"

minor ore
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ON THE OUTSIDE WORLD I AM A HUSBAND AND A DAD BUT SECRETLY WITH THE HELP OF MY ROCK HUMAN FRIENDS I COLLECT ROKAKAKA AND FIGHT OTHER STAND USERS LIKE ME

ebon pulsar
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XDDDD

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then part 9 will be speed king run

minor ore
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Part 8 Four Ball run

ebon pulsar
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part 7- steel ball run
part 8- 4 ball runs
part 9- speed king run

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lmao

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we thought the same thing XD

minor ore
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PIZZA MOZZARELLA

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Pizza mozzarella

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Rellarellarellarella

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Rellarellarellarella

ebon pulsar
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best singer

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ever existed

minor ore
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DP better not fuck the song up

ebon pulsar
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i dont think they will

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they might make it even better like the torture dance

minor ore
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Oh true

wide tendon
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I've got a question

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How did jonny take the corpse out of the vault

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Wasn't it explicitly stated in part 7 that once the vault was sealed it couldn't be opened for 80 years

junior spindle
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probably did some bs w spin

wide tendon
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I guess

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I might just be scrutinizing this shit too much

junior spindle
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There's a lot of things in JoJo that have no explanation

wide tendon
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That's very true

keen furnace
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Tusk act 3 op

minor ore
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Blue lagoon part 4 out

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Colored

hushed rover
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OOOOO

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i just finished reading that arc a few days ago

minor ore
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Ew

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Why is that name copyrighted

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The other parts didnt have that

stark wagon
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wait which name

keen furnace
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Blue Hawaii

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I assume?

stark wagon
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oh

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blue lagoon is the name of the arc

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and his dream

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blue hawaii is the stand

keen furnace
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oh

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idk

stark wagon
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btw, this was the last colored chapter for a long while probably

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gotta wait for next sueisha release

minor ore
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Ohhh ok

green nacelle
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lol

coral hatch
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yasuho best jojo female

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daiyabestwaifuinmyopiniontho

spice crystal
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daiya is a horrible waifu she can tell you to stop talking to other girls and then actually make you

keen furnace
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sounds good to me

minor ore
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Same

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 13 !

merry kernel
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Brain Storm is just a better Yo Yo Ma, change my mind.

still scroll
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so right now i’m at the twins

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and they bore me

minor ore
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Yea they aren't really fun

knotty moat
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Daiya is worst girl

minor ore
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No one says Daiya is worst girl

white beacon
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and yeah daiya is pretty bad

knotty mango
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Disagree

minor ore
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But the meme is supposed to react to his message

green nacelle
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dairy daiya

still scroll
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which ones daiya again

spice crystal
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the memory stealing girl

keen furnace
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she likes music and can't see

still scroll
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the 16 year old rapist

minor ore
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😬 I forgot how creepy she was

still scroll
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i felt uncomfortable the entire time

keen furnace
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remember how creepy Rohan was?

minor ore
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Daiya can steal all my memories

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😊

knotty mango
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I agree

keen furnace
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memories are bad

minor ore
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And she can lick me as much as she wants

knotty mango
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Woah

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She underage

minor ore
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Legal here

still scroll
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please stop

green nacelle
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lmao

minor ore
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yikes

brittle blade
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oooh I always wanted to ask this

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how the hell do the color releases work?

white beacon
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they release as a volume every month digitally through the official joj website, pretty sure that's how it works

brittle blade
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can you link that site?

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so is it made by Araki himself? or is it a team and Araki is the director of them?

white beacon
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shueisha, the publisher, is doing the colours, idk how much involved araki is about it

stark wagon
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I think they release the volumes in batches

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jojolion is at volume 19 already but the colored stops on 15

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and I think 11-15 came out at the same time

white beacon
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JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia

JOJO-D Japanese Name 週刊少年ジャンプ Alternate Names JoJo Digital, Digital Colored Comics, Jump Comics Country JapanW Language JapaneseW Category ShonenW /SeinenW Publisher Shueisha Publication Period...

brittle blade
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so if there are digital jojo versions

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what does the jjca team do when they scanlate?

minor ore
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JJCA just translates as far as i know

white beacon
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that's exactly it, they scanlate

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well, scanlate would be a kinda technically wrong term, since they don't need to scan

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but other than scanning and redrawing(though redraws are sometimes needed for specific sfx if translated) it's sitll the same

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translating, typesetting, proofreading, quality checking

brittle blade
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oh ofc because the text is at different places

white beacon
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what

brittle blade
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the japanese and the translated english

keen furnace
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its not all at dif places

white beacon
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it's only in japan

keen furnace
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on the page

green nacelle
brittle blade
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I really don't know what happened with Araki

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part 7 was so well put together while 8 barely makes sense sometimes with it's incoherence

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I really wanted to like this part and it has the best setting out of all the 8 don't @me

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but the plot is just... no

minor ore
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I kinda hate how characters just do something in one arc and then they dissapear

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Daiya

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Hato

brittle blade
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yes thank you

minor ore
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Norisuke

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Kaato

brittle blade
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like

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none of this shit actually matters

minor ore
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Kyo

brittle blade
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And just to piss all over my face it has some amazing characters too like Yasuho

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concepts like shakedown road

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God damn I fucking loved that part

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but it's like I'm reading one shots that have a barely connected story

keen furnace
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i liked everything but rockpeople

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they feel so random

brittle blade
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ye

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It really lacks that refinedness that all of the other parts have

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even stone ocean

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and that was lackluster too

stark wagon
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but it's like I'm reading one shots that have a barely connected story

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I strongly disagree with this

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most things happen for a reason in jojolion

summer tree
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I say it's hard to judge Jojolion until it's finished

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We're jumping the gun here

spice crystal
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theres lots of loose ends

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because nothing is tied yet

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its unfinished

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you can criticise JJL for a lot but that is not one of the things you can

green nacelle
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it's been a rocky road

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||pun intended ||

brittle blade
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I'm just worried that a lot of these things will stay unresolved

minor ore
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Man in gappy's flashback

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How is Equivalent Exchange being performed at the shrine

brittle blade
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well yeah I know I'm criticizing an unfinished story nut it's just like opens too much doors

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(not a pasely park joke)

spice crystal
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the guy in gappy's flashback is very likely just an early design damo or something

minor ore
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They look hella different

spice crystal
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so did jobin

minor ore
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But i guess you have a point

spice crystal
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in his first appearance

brittle blade
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how was even jobin at the greeting of gappy if his introduction was that he arrived later at the middle of the story

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was that also intended differently?

minor ore
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He went on a trip

brittle blade
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yeah but was that even explained?

brittle blade
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damn

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which volume is the flashback man in?

spice crystal
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1

brittle blade
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thanks

keen furnace
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I want part 9 villain to be the head of the speedwagon foundation

brittle blade
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YOU MONSTER

keen furnace
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I'm tired of the mega corps as good guys

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tell it like it really is Araki!

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I also want a part 9 channel

minor ore
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I'd be into an evil spw company 🤔

minor ore
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Speedwagon Foundation isn't nearly as important in the new universe tho

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iirc it's briefly mentioned as a petroleum company and nothing more

keen furnace
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yeah tswhy it's time for a comeback

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Zeppelli family was on the down too before Gyro

hushed rover
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the zeppelis could play a role in this part, since part 7 was vague about what happened to them at the end.

keen furnace
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hm would be a late arrival, but maybz

green nacelle
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hmmm

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Molto maybe

soft raptor
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You guys think part 8 can surpass part 4 or nah?

kind owlBOT
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@soft raptor, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

minor ore
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It alr did imo

spice crystal
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not yet

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but I think if the ending tied up all the loose ends, it’ll be better

opal schooner
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I like large fries

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I like large fries

keen furnace
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8 not even close to part 4 imo

spice crystal
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its close

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but the distance for me can all be fixed by it being finished

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so it doesnt count

keen furnace
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I think part 4 is the best part

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and 8 has a chance to be the worst

spice crystal
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well

keen furnace
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so agree to disagree

spice crystal
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why

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why is part 8 the worst

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or

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close to being

keen furnace
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I said it could be, we don't know yet

spice crystal
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okay

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but

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why

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youre clearly basing that opinion on something right

keen furnace
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I could make a long list of all the various qualifications

spice crystal
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yes do

keen furnace
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but what it comes down to is that I don't think it stands out in any of em

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Gappy as a Jojo, he doesn't even know what his true nature is

spice crystal
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so you think its just extremely average?

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i mean

keen furnace
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so his personality doesn't stand out

spice crystal
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thats fucking stupid

keen furnace
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ok

spice crystal
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he has a character

keen furnace
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he does

spice crystal
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its just not the one his 2 people were born as

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which doesnt have any bearing

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why is him not knowing himself fully

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a bad aspect?

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he's very defined when it comes to personality

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and hes got a fun one

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a good AU josuke personality

keen furnace
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he's not very similar to part 4 Josuke

spice crystal
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not at all

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but its the same kind of baseline

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overall very chilled and cool but has his moments of snapping and being fucking epic

keen furnace
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Kira > rockpeople

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both in pretty much every way

spice crystal
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thats because kira is fully fleshed out and you're comparing an entire species to one character

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especially when NONE of them are the main villains yet

keen furnace
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well part 8 lacks a villain

spice crystal
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not a good comparison

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WHAT

keen furnace
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and the rock people get so much focus

spice crystal
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thats because its NOT FINISHED

keen furnace
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without contributing that much

spice crystal
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uh

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literally the entire organisation josuke is fighting against

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is based around rock humans

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are you reading the same part as me?

keen furnace
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like I said?

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they get SO MUCH FOCUS

spice crystal
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'not contributing much' the fuck does this shit mean?

keen furnace
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I don't think they're very interesting

spice crystal
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lets go through each rock human

keen furnace
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and maybe their experience in life somehow ties to the other themes of part 8

spice crystal
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and assess them as a minor villain

keen furnace
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but it's a bit murky

spice crystal
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keep in mind! minor villain

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NOT kira

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kira is a main villain, not to be confused

keen furnace
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how far into part 8 do you think we might be

spice crystal
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first one is Yotsuyu

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i mean araki has said hes wrapping it up

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so

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pretty far in

keen furnace
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right so we're not getting an in depth developing main villain out of nowhere

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it's not going to have someone to match Kira

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now that's not saying much

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Kira was amazing

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but that in itself makes it tough to match part 4

spice crystal
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the organisation is really really good though

keen furnace
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the intrigue over the rakkakaka is alright

spice crystal
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its not intrigue

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we know what it does

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everyone important does

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tf

keen furnace
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bruh

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why you have to insult me by assuming you know what I meant by intrigue

spice crystal
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they want to have it en masse to make cash cash money

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not find out what it does

keen furnace
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sure

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but I'm not just evaluating it based on where we are rn in the part

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I'm stepping back and considering how it's added to the part as a whole

spice crystal
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a lot

keen furnace
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rock people making money as an organized gang isn't all that interesting

spice crystal
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nothing's that interesting when you dumb it down

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watch

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man wants to live quietly but is a murderer

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now kira isnt interesting?

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fuck no

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dumbass tactics

keen furnace
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ok so what about it is interesting for you

spice crystal
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their intentions of use

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them as characters

keen furnace
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I get that being rockpeople has made it hard for them

kind owlBOT
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@keen furnace, Your Gangstar cred is now level 12 !

keen furnace
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but the desire to fill the gaps in their life with power and money

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that's def a rl concept I'm interested in confronting

spice crystal
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organised crime with such a cool concept as equivalent exchange

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is interesting

keen furnace
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they're just using it for money though

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they might as well be the hitman group from part 5

spice crystal
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the hitman team is the best antagonist group

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so like

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bad comparison

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if you want to make it bad

keen furnace
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part 5 the themes involving destiny and Diabolo were way more interesting that the hitman group

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the hitman group had great stands and fights

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I did enjoy how they felt spurned and went after the boss

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very classic gangster theme

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of internal fighting over power

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but if anything the rockmen pursuit of money is just depressing

spice crystal
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it is

keen furnace
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Dr Wu at least had something going for him where he was interested in helping people

spice crystal
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part 8 is a much darker part than 4

keen furnace
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I just don't see a part surpassing part 4 for me personally

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I liked almost every part of it

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and the character designs stand out so much

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and they are entwined together

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hopefully some of the side characters that were introduced in part 8 show up again

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like Kerara

spice crystal
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they have time to

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if they dont, then i dont think it can simply because too many strings will be left untied

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and thats not fulfilling

keen furnace
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I mean part 7 introduced plenty of characters, but ended up only focusing on a few of them

#

I wouldn't expect it to happen to that degree again

spice crystal
#

but they all had endings

keen furnace
#

i'm not even going to get into it

#

these manga are written over long stretches of time, so Araki is free to change direction as he sees fit

#

but the way characters were introduced, and then moved away from without fully utilizing them or developing them was very unfufilling

#

but like in part 8

#

Kyo Nijimura

#

she's the daughter of Holly and is undercover investigating the Higashikata family

#

yet she's MIA from the entire story

#

I get that her stand wouldn't be very interesting to see again

#

(or would it?)

spice crystal
#

nah

#

she has a very minor antagonist stand

keen furnace
#

yeah but how many minor antagonist stands have we seen in the past turn into allies?

#

I agree the way it works isn't interesting if used on an enemy

spice crystal
#

all those that turned into 'allies' had not very minor antagonist stands

#

kyo has a definitively minor antagonist stand

keen furnace
#

how are you defining that

#

she's going to have an episode as an antagonist

spice crystal
#

it has a specific gimmick that only works when we're watching the perspective of our character

#

you cant really imagine kyo fighting someone else because that wasnt what was intended by it

#

born this way and fun fun fun are perfect examples

keen furnace
#

she could be in a chase scene or something

spice crystal
#

no she couldnt

#

because we dont have chase scenes with gimmicks like that

#

vs enemies

#

we have the enemy pulling a gimmick while getting chased or chasing the protag

keen furnace
#

I'm not even suggesting that it would have to involve the gimmic per say

mossy robin
#

Her ability would harm allies as well.

spice crystal
#

yes it fucking would

#

kyo literally cant attack without it

mossy robin
#

It makes a local sub-zero blizzard.

keen furnace
#

maybe she's not trying to attack

spice crystal
#

then she deactivates the stand

#

??

keen furnace
#

what if they were trying to keep up with a rockman car without being noticed

spice crystal
#

she will never fight alongside josuke

#

so she

#

decides to activate

keen furnace
#

look it's not important

spice crystal
#

one of the most conspicious stands

keen furnace
#

I said right from the start that her stand showing up again wouldnt work

spice crystal
#

?

#

then

#

why did you go on that tangent just there

keen furnace
#

I left the door slightly open and you wanted to argue about it

spice crystal
#

uh

#

all you had to say was 'yeah i see'

keen furnace
#

"I get that her stand wouldn't be very interesting to see again
(or would it?)"

spice crystal
#

rather than waiting for us to have a whole fuckin discussion

#

and then saying 'UGH BUT U JUS WANTED TO CONTINUE'

minor ore
spice crystal
#

it probably wouldnt be very interesting

#

at all

minor ore
#

I like Kyo's stand design

keen furnace
#

which is what I said

spice crystal
#

THEN WHY DID YOU ARGUE AGAINST ME

#

oh my god

keen furnace
#

but maybe someone more creative than I would disagree and find a way

#

so I left the door open

#

and I was just considering possible ways

spice crystal
#

wh

#

whatever

keen furnace
#

I wasn't saying that you were wrong and that she def could be interesting

spice crystal
#

her character could

#

absolutely

#

without a doubt

#

her stand? no

mossy robin
#

Her Stand is basically useless unless it's for the assassination of a single target.
Even then it didn't kill Josuke.

spice crystal
#

its very minor antagonist

#

like man in the mirror, fun fun fun, little feet

#

all of these are single target gimmick stands

keen furnace
#

y r we still going over this

spice crystal
#

and struggle to be used in situations but the specific one

#

because im backing up what beesting is saying

minor ore
#

Ya she also needs to touch her target first

#

Then activate whenever they open something

flat raft
#

Born this way is a weird arc

#

I like it though

minor ore
#

anasui is just proto-joshu

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !

minor ore
#

Wh

#

What

#

No

#

there's just this simple fact that cannot be denied or avoided

granite sedge
#

How could you say something so cruel about Anasui?

#

He has decent hair.

minor ore
#

Hola I have a bit of a question

#

Im hearing about all this Dio over heaven shit

#

Does that happen in part 8 cos Ive read up to part 7

keen furnace
#

part 6?

#

er that's made in heaven

#

hmm not sure

void viper
#

DIO over heaven is in the eyes of heaven video game, it's not canon

dense edge
#

so, does SBR explain that johnny shot himself with his spin by accident, or was it only explained like that in jojolion? cause I remember it just being the rock and not the spin and the rock

minor ore
#

It wasnt by accident

#

He shot himself to exchange the disease from his son to him

dense edge
#

he like tried to save a kid or something

#

yeah

minor ore
#

Then les feuilles killed him

dense edge
#

was it explained in SBR

#

or just the flashback

minor ore
#

He was going to die either way but yeah

#

In the flashback

#

SBR doesn't show Johnny's death

keen furnace
#

r y'all talking about the same thing

#

because the first time Johnny used the spin he may have shot himself

#

iirc

minor ore
#

No

sacred totem
#

i love the progression of johnny's stand

#
  1. Shoots nails from his fingers nails and toenails
    2.shoots nails in the golden ratio letting the hole travel on its own
  2. SHOOT IT IN THE GOLDEN RATIO SO THAT YOU CAN TELEPORT
  3. USE THE GOLDEN RATIO OF A HORSE RUNNING COMBINED WITH YOUR GOLDEN RATIO NAILS TO MAKE YOUR ENEMIES DIE INFINITELY
#

whoops

#

wrong chat]

minor ore
#

They don't die infinitely

#

It was said they are transfered to other dimension

#

What does act 4 do again

#

I thought it just spun your cells infinitely

stark wagon
#

yeah it's just a spin ride

#

can also do stuff like moving through stopped time and still work through dimentions for some reason

mossy robin
#

What do you mean.
D4C is the reason they go to another dimension.

#

It's exclusive to Valentine.

knotty moat
#

I fucking hate daiya

#

Shes just a perverted little rapist smh

high perch
#

Why do the jojolion stands have such weird activation requirements

#

Like born this way has to open something

#

Or fun fun fun needs a cut and needs to be above someone

spice crystal
#

because araki is getting much more creative

high perch
#

Yep

spice crystal
#

fun fun fun is such a good fight

high perch
#

😂

spice crystal
#

if youd told anyone stands would eventually get to that level of insane back when stardust crusaders first came out

#

they wouldnt believe you

high perch
#

Ikr

#

But i dont judge araki

spice crystal
#

its great

high perch
#

Most general superpower abilities have been used already

#

And araki still manages to pull of new stands

spice crystal
#

araki's found the right line to walk between boring and stupid

#

with jojolion and sbr

high perch
#

Thats an accomplishment

#

Sbr was amazing

spice crystal
#

stands like tattoo you! and even fuckin d4c are just outlandish enough to be cool but not so outlandish that you get a dragon's dream situation

high perch
#

^^^

kind owlBOT
#

@high perch, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

high perch
#

That's so true

#

What i love about araki's writing

#

Is that the enemy stands are so suspensfull

#

Like something happens but you have no idea whats going on

#

That tension is so good

spice crystal
#

yee

high perch
#

Cant wait for kingcrimson adaptation

spice crystal
#

next week

#

babyyy

high perch
#

Although its kinda gonna look like time stop like dio did

#

But a little different

spice crystal
#

its gonna be ebic

high perch
#

Eeeyup

#

Whats hillarious is that king crimson isnt the most complicated stand but people really overthink it

spice crystal
#

it was because of the shit part 5 scans that existed before

#

explained it terribly

high perch
#

Jup

minor ore
#

I think of King crimson as a real life video editor

minor ore
#

I think that the simplest sbrverse stand is oh lonesome me

clear mountain
#

It’s pretty cool

#

Poor ranger Andy

loud fiber
#

Is kirishima from mha actually yagiyama

robust ibex
#

imagine yasuho fucking dies because shes the jobro of this part

minor ore
#

Honestly about the main villain

#

Didn't rai told us how the main enemy behind rokakaka

#

Is a doctor that has a high social status?

#

And is a rock human

soft raptor
#

There is a chance that someone in the Higashikata household is the main villain all along

#

That would be cool

minor ore
#

Yes

#

Yotsuyu did say someone will betray

mossy robin
#

Tsurugi villain.

#

Would be horrifying.

#

Think about it, and what Paper Moon King can do.

clear mountain
#

We already saw what it could do

#

I’d be down with him as a villain

#

Just not The Villain

mossy robin
#

Well in light of recent events he killed Norisuke.

robust ibex
#

we dont know this as a fact yet

clear mountain
#

What’s would he look like dressed as a boy?

mossy robin
#

We don't but we have nothing else to go off of.

minor ore
#

It was said a change in heart can lead to change of stand

#

So his stand probably evolved

hushed rover
#

JoJo ends with a page of original universe Rohan completing the entire last panel, revealing that jojolion and sbr were written by him. Then we see him notice that the universe is reset

#

Source: My uncle is Araki

white beacon
#

that would be so fuckin meta honestly

hushed rover
#

then jojo part 9 is just jorge joestar with illustrations and no sbr characters

#

jojo fans riot knowing that the last two parts were nothing but filler

mossy robin
#

Rohan is too busy drawing Pink Dark Boy. johnnypatwoke

knotty moat
#

Inb4 paper moon king act 2

minor ore
#

Possibly.

knotty moat
#

Also if kaato isnt the main villain I'm gonna have a stfoke

minor ore
#

Give it a humanoid stand

#

That can fight

#

I don't see Kaato as a main villain

#

But if we get to see more of her in bikini i'm fine with that

knotty moat
#

Imo she just gives me that main villain vibe

minor ore
knotty moat
#

Ye I just want to see kaato again because shes hot

minor ore
#

Yea

knotty moat
#

Especially in a bikini

minor ore
#

Kakyoin would like

#

To

knotty moat
#

Ye

#

So far theyres like four milfs in jojo

#

Maybe five

#

*milfs

minor ore
#

Holy part 3, Holy part 8, Kaato

#

Hmm who else

#

Tomoko

#

How could i forget

knotty moat
#

Lisa lisa

minor ore
#

yes

#

Suzi Q and Erina are old

knotty moat
#

Tomoko is hot

minor ore
#

I wish we saw suzi Q when she was like

#

40-50

knotty moat
#

Ye

minor ore
#

I fucking love the way araki draws josuke squatting

coral hatch
#

I just realized smth

#

MY HAIRCUT IS EXACTLY LIKE JOSHU

minor ore
#

I just realized how joshu looked wayyyyy different

#

On his first appearance

white beacon
#

everyone did

minor ore
#

Mitsuba too now when i look

#

She seemed like a not so important character

#

But i'm glad she got her own arc

left mural
#

I fr have too many pictures of josuke squatting in my gallery

pastel flare
#

wow

minor ore
#

Send @left mural

hushed rover
#

I finally caught up with jojolion

grizzled pilot
#

did he beat the lion yet

hushed rover
#

No he died

grizzled pilot
#

lame

hushed rover
#

and the lion is actually simba

finite rock
#

if you ate the grafted rokaka while you had ur ears removed and were holding a cat, would it take the ears of the cat and give them to you

#

i need to know

hushed rover
#

Guys, whatbif the person who started the whole rokakaka trade is au Giorno giovanna

rocky charm
#

Josefumi: brb. Making catgirls real

hushed rover
#

How did josh lick his sister’s ear when he was at the table?

#

This mystery is far more complex than king crimson

rocky charm
#

He ripped off his tongue with NKC and threw it at her

#

As far as I can tell, if he uses it on his own body parts, he can still control them while they're separated

#

It may even work like that on all living organisms

hushed rover
#

Damn they really u defuse the family’s stands

rocky charm
#

Meaning he can still wiggle it (to lick) while it's separated

hushed rover
#

Underuse

#

I see

stark wagon
#

That wasn't just joshu

#

I bet it's something to do with tsurugi's evolved stand

minor ore
#

Who knows

#

I can definitely say

#

Whatever his stand evolved into

#

It's out of control

minor ore
#

Holy shit

#

I forgot about thick josuke

#

yea

#

What chapter was that

#

First arc

pastel flare
#

jojolion is gay everyones just tryna hide it.

finite rock
#

ok so

#

I'm really annoyed at KQ's lack of proper description

#

So here's what i think it's ability is

#

It creates bubbles containing sheer heart attacks

#

The bubbles can travel through materials and will explode the sheer heart attack inside when popped

#

the bubble can be consciously dispelled to make the sheer heart attacks temporarily usable

stark wagon
#

pretty sure SHA is its own thing

finite rock
#

that allows it to float over to kaera

#

To create the explosion in the fire

#

Tire

#

To put the sheer heart attack in the vein

#

because without the bubble explanation

#

Sheer heart attack has a fucking massive range

minor ore
#

You just didnt get it

#

The bubbles are one thing

#

Hear attack is another

#

He can make sheer heart attacks of small or medium sizes

#

And it doesnt have to do with the bubbles

finite rock
#

Then how did the heart attack get on kaera

minor ore
#

He shot it across the boat iirc

#

Or something

#

It can be launched

finite rock
#

i didn't see that panel

#

It was literally just

#

Her being grabbed

#

Two sheer heart attacks appearing

#

Boom

#

Also Where's your proof it can be launched

minor ore
#

....the manga

#

It's shown in the manga

finite rock
#

what panel

minor ore
#

Like for example when Kira sends them down Josefumi's bloodstream???

desert crane
#

WHATS GOING ON

#

I DONT GET IT

finite rock
#

That's not launching???

#

That's just him summoning a SH and moving it

minor ore
#

...

#

That's what I mean

finite rock
#

There's no panels of sheer heart attack ever moving anywhere

kind owlBOT
#

@finite rock, Your Gangstar cred is now level 17 !

finite rock
#

It simply appeared in kaera's hair

#

And went boom after he said so

#

Besides, sheer heart attack couldn't have crossed the gap with treads

minor ore
#

It's called interpretating

#

It can happen even if it wasnt shown

finite rock
#

So how'd it get across the gap

minor ore
#

By being launched

#

That's the best explanation

finite rock
#

We don't know it can get launched tho

minor ore
#

It probably can

#

The first one could

finite rock
#

"Probably"

#

i don't remember the first one being launched

#

kira put it down

minor ore
#

No

finite rock
#

And it went up the shop keeper

minor ore
#

It launched itself into Koichi

#

From the shopkeeper's head

#

It was very quick

#

And had impulsion

finite rock
#

ah, but didn't it literally just explode

#

and it moves relative to heat

minor ore
#

No it just launched itself to koichi I think

finite rock
#

It slowly moved towards koichi but belted towards the fire

#

but there's three explanations for SH I'm the hair

#

+5 metre deployment range

#

Jumping

#

Or bubble

hushed rover
#

AU Rohan when

#

Araki promised a crazy mangaka character to show up at one point

finite rock
#

we've already got the plant appraiser who is his story equivalent

#

what if the main villain is AU Rohan

hushed rover
#

or the head doctor GioAaaah

#

and his stand is heaven's door

#

part doctor part mangaka

#

fulltime rock human

finite rock
#

i had an idea on how to make speed king a decent fight for a final battle

#

make it into a suit stand

#

he always heats up things 10cm away

#

like reverse white album

hushed rover
#

there's some other abilities that we don't know about speed king yet

#

like him driving the car

finite rock
#

True

minor ore
#

Every stand does that

#

Well every humanoid stand and stuff

#

You know those that can actually drive

finite rock
#

If he's the main villain

knotty mango
#

I doubt it.

finite rock
#

His stand will undergo an evolution

#

Def

knotty mango
#

I hope it’s kaato

finite rock
#

Like tsurgi

knotty mango
#

It’s seems more suited to be kaato

finite rock
#

Kaato's stand wouldn't fit a final villain

hushed rover
#

and i'd like to see tsurugi or Kaato be a main villain anyways

#

again, we don't know the full extent of kaato's ability

#

for all we know it could work like d4c

finite rock
#

that'd be boring

#

i feel like it's gonna be the head doctor as josuke's main villain

#

That'll be his final fight

minor ore
#

I hope it's caato

finite rock
#

While jobin or tsurgi are yashuo's

hushed rover
#

inb4 head doctor has king crimson and is au diavolo

finite rock
#

inb4 head doctor does the d4c death thing with josuke because they're the same person

hushed rover
#

inb4 head doctor is just a brando

#

i'd be surprised if they didn't do something with the brando bloodline

knotty mango
#

Brad

finite rock
#

You know what would be great

#

Something to do with josuke's body

knotty mango
#

A chapter of jojolion

finite rock
#

Or his head

knotty mango
#

?

#

Oh ok

finite rock
#

Being the main villain of part 9

#

it's the would be main antagonist of part 9 and josuke's head

stark wagon
#

we'd be close to a JJL chapter if no hiatus GWvertiPeepoSadMan

hushed rover
#

wait jjl is on hiatus rn?

finite rock
#

Ye

hushed rover
finite rock
#

1 month

#

At least

hushed rover
#

i literally just finished catching up

#

ffs

finite rock
#

me when i caught up

stark wagon
#

yeah it's just one month

#

no chapter in february

minor ore
#

we're never getting a final villain huh?

#

Chill

#

It's coming

pastel flare
#

Jojolion needs to end i want a new lead

keen furnace
#

shots fired

minor ore
#

wait a whole second

#

wait nvm that wouldnt work

#

i was gonna say maybe the alt universe in part 6 can tie into part 8 but that doesnt work

#

Araki himself scrapped that idea so yeah, no

#

Closest thing we will ever get is another Eyes of Heaven game

mossy robin
gleaming peak
#

Also @hushed rover the brando bloodline died to represent how this is a new universe where they don't matter.

white beacon
gleaming peak
#

It's not a JoJoke tho.

white beacon
#

Then take it somehweet not here

gleaming peak
#

Okie dokie then.

coral hatch
#

Jojolion is best part

#

Steel ball run tho

#

I wouldnt have read the manga and become an anime only jojo fan if it wasnt for me knowing that the jojo is a Sailor and Kira yoshikage being a jojo

upbeat cloak
#

I didn't know anything lel

#

The 2x2 thing kind of stunned me when I first read it though

coral hatch
#

Hehehe

#

4 balls

#

Why are pp jokes still funny to me

upbeat cloak
#

It's alright, we all have a 9 year old side to us
That will laugh at juvenile jokes

coral hatch
#

Jojolion is my favorite part out of all jojo parts

#

It could change after I finish Sbr

upbeat cloak
#

Kira8 is interesting because of how different he is from the Kira we knew

coral hatch
#

Since i saw a poll and it dominated

#

Yeah

#

Kira8 made me gay for a minute

#

He hot asf

#

No homo

upbeat cloak
#

The serial killer in Part 4 being a rough but ultimately good surgeon in Part 8 was a really interesting spin

coral hatch
#

Yeah

upbeat cloak
#

chew

coral hatch
#

Maybe because this Kira is the jotaro in this universe

#

Josefumi with Kira is gold

#

I want a full pic of the jojolion pic in there

desert crane
#

My new favourite part

coral hatch
#

Same

#

Diamond is Unbreakable was my favorite part

#

Until I found Jojolion

desert crane
#

Same that was my favourite part aswell until part 8

#

I still really like part 2 though

gleaming peak
#

Isn’t it funny how both Kiras are foils to one another

#

Arguably because one had a mom in their life.

clear mountain
#

Maybe DiU Kira was looking for his mommy in all those hands

gleaming peak
#

Nah he's spoiled.

#

His parents enabling him is a reason for a lot of his behaviour.

gleaming peak
#

I don’t even think DiU Kira really got to know his mom

white beacon
#

what if

#

diu kira's mom, was his first victim

minor ore
knotty mango
#

Oiioiiioioiioiioioio

minor ore
#

Isn't the pink haired girl his first victim

knotty mango
#

Reimi\

minor ore
#

Ye

knotty mango
#

She’s second best girl

gleaming peak
#

Well let’s see

knotty mango
#

Hpow the f

gleaming peak
#

Kira’s relationship with his girlfriends is him in total control.

#

How he talks to them, how he acts with them, how he disposed of them...

#

Which I think ties into how they said both of his parents basically worshipped him.

#

Then you have Shinobu who he may have formed a genuine relationship with

#

Romantic or not

knotty mango
#

Ffs reimievsecond best girl

junior spindle
#

what if the head doctor was suzie q

keen furnace
#

u mean holly?