#jojolion

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minor ore
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Like a duck nose

white beacon
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hmm, maybe, be uhh

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i was gonna say put his other hand there too, but that seems impossible

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yet another one of araki's magic hands

spice crystal
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‘above’

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why is ‘above’ in bold when tooru says it

white beacon
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maybe he just wanted to emphasize it for no damn reason, or maybe because it was a certain aspect about his relationship with yasuho

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yasuho being top

spice crystal
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I mean, that text has never been used for stuff as small as that but idk, jojolion is pretty trend setting

white beacon
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araki: confirms yasuho is a top and tooru is a bottom
japan: this will solve our declining birth rates

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or also maybe it could relate to his stand power or something, maybe like an opposite fun3

minor ore
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It probably has to do with his character

rain zephyr
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What happened with the funfunfun guy anyways?

kind owlBOT
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@rain zephyr, Your Gangstar cred is now level 6 !

white beacon
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i think he just went back to being a surfer

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that's what i heard from someone here at least

spice crystal
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he ran away

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That’s all we know

faint rover
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You guys think that Kyo being cut off from the family picture might be a foreshadow to her dying?

minor ore
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No

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Araki forgot about her existence like we all did

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There's no reason for her to die anyways since she's not important

white beacon
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she sitll kinda is but not in a very visible/direct way

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since she's still kinda one of the few people directly connecting josuke and holly

minor ore
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Kyo has one of my fav stand designs but araki is just like lol

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she doesn't exist

granite sedge
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I feel like the answer is just going to be something along the lines of the Higashikata family letting Kyo go.

green nacelle
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s/o to Jobin's lamb

gleaming peak
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I don’t think Araki forgot she existed

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That scene was literally solely about the Higashikata family

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Gappy is “adopted”

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Which is why he is not cut out of the picture

minor ore
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Theres not much for kyo to do tbh

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She was a minor character and that's all

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A semi-villain that fulfilled her role

stark wagon
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of course there is she's holly's daughter

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josuke is doing what he's doing to save holly she should be involved

wary galleon
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not reading anything but

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are all the chapters up to date on mangadex?

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like ive bene hearing about a new chapter and just wanted to make sure

void viper
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yeah the most recent chapter is on there

wary galleon
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thanks man

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now to x out this chat before i read anything too high up

brittle blade
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Tsurugi never lost to any stone man

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because his stand is paper

hushed rover
rocky charm
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I hate Mamezuku

faint rover
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i love his design and stand

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but yeah, he's an asshole

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sometimes

stark wagon
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yeah I don't like him very much

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I think the majority of people do though

rocky charm
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OK

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So I'm finally caught up

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The Head Doctor is going to be Dio in some form, btw

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I'm calling it

stark wagon
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that'd be so funny

faint rover
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yes but it has to be a brando

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maybe diego got some girls during the race

rocky charm
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Look

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In Part 1, Dio survived as just a head

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So obviously, Part 7 Dio can survive losing his head

stark wagon
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he actually gained an extra head though

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double the life

wary galleon
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so we're onto count down of the harvest yeah?

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chapter 83?

rocky charm
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Yee

wary galleon
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holy shit

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what the fuck

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what the fuck is gonna happen

rocky charm
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idk

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Apparently in a week Norisuke's gonna be in a body bag

wary galleon
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yeah :(

rocky charm
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Up in the air if he dies or not

wary galleon
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tsurgi has fucking lost it

rocky charm
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We got a teaser, then a bullshit "7 days before"

wary galleon
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hey yanno

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i dont mind that

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i like how people talk about "we havent gotten a dio yet"

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hey, did we have a dio in part 4?

rocky charm
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Arrows were given to Kira Yoshihiro and Nijimura father by Enya, a servant of DIO, and Josuke's Stand manifested because DIO was shot

wary galleon
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yeah, that's all he added to part 4, he wasnt there or w/e

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but in the SBR universe diego kinda did fuck all to the scale of og universe dio

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so he shouldnt even be mentioned in part 8

rocky charm
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Diego was a vhildhood rival of Johnny, just like in OG

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He was just less important overall

wary galleon
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yea

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tbh diego ended up as a anti-hero anyway more than a villian character

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and i mean normal diego, not ZA WAURDO diego

stark wagon
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I love normal diego

wary galleon
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same

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you know he's not normal diego

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he's diego

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alternate diego is the one who we have to say is a copy of diego

stark wagon
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true

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his death is one of my favorite things in SBR

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the fight with valentine and all

wary galleon
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yeah same

stark wagon
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anyway doesn't belong to this chat blobSweat

wary galleon
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because his death actually means something other than dios death

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@rocky charm poke, welcome back to emoticons the part

hardy hull
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man i really hope they dont go the route of "he didnt trust me so im gonna end up with my ex for awhile then eventually go back to josuke"

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cause i feel like that's where its headed

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actually also im calling it

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the ex is part of the rokakaka

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or he has to choose between yasuho and the rokakaka people

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it just feels like that's what's gonna be set up, with him being a med student at the same hospital

wary galleon
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please not the whole fucking

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main character mis understands love interest so they get angry at each other

hardy hull
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yeah, i realize its a major trope and i hope it doesnt happen

kind owlBOT
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@hardy hull, Your Gangstar cred is now level 5 !

hardy hull
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or it atleast is subverted in some way

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like its a way to bring in one of the other love interests again, like Karare or Daiya

marsh belfry
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Is there a stand called Sicko Mode yet?

knotty moat
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No

minor ore
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So what happened

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In last chapters

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Did tsurugi made massacre?

static pilot
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Anyone else notice the 8 finger part?

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Also longest part

granite sedge
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I'm definitely thinking this is a way to get one of the previous love interests back in the story. I kind of want it to be Karera, just because I liked her, but I could see it being Daiya as a way to tie the Higashikatas into what's currently going on.

static pilot
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mmm

wary galleon
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What if the lover is Norisuke, Tsurgi gets jealous and then kills him

grizzled pilot
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the lover is steely dan (jjl)

wary galleon
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Gasp

minor ore
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tfw spin is never used again

static pilot
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R I P

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cooler than hamon

spice crystal
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it might still be practiced in the Vatican

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depends if gyro’s father taught anyone else

white beacon
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or if wekapipo taught someone the wrecking ball

spice crystal
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he’s dead

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but he maybe could have

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still more likely gyro’s father did

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It might come back in for part 9, if we go back to an Italian Mafia setting

gleaming peak
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Well soft and wet's bubbles being spun string is important.

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What if it's a sign the Joestar family has trained in the spin for generations still.

spice crystal
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I think it’s a sign that josuke has a cool ability

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It’s more likely to be developed into a secondary ability than some skin involvement

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Spin*

white beacon
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inb4 josuke can spin a person into a sphere

minor ore
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Araki just forgot about it

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Apparently

spice crystal
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I don’t think he did

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if it had been revealed at like the very start I’d say yeah he had

minor ore
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Mamezuku didnt tell josuke about it yet and I think he should have by this point

spice crystal
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but it’s recently enough that I don’t think araki’s dropped the concept

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and is rather just waiting for the right time to develop it

minor ore
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Maybe

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But yeah it was 2 years ago

white beacon
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maybe mamezuku just didn't feel like needing to tell josuke, as if he thinks josuke already knows the ins and outs of s/w

gleaming peak
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I think most people don't know they can continue to work on their stand without it having to evolve.

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For example, Funny and Dio are two of the few people I remember specifically pointing out they can go higher and higher with their stand.

white beacon
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diego also did too, he didn't evolve scary monsters but he damn well made it as if it was originally his own, and developed it far more than ferdinand

gleaming peak
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He pointed it out?

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Or he just did it?

white beacon
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he just did it

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like how he can turn people into dinos and fossilize them on the spot

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like those guards

gleaming peak
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Ah okay cuz I was saying those two blatantly said it

white beacon
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scary monsters didn't evolve, it just became better

gleaming peak
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But yeah Diego just did it

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Johnny on the other hand didn’t do it intentionally at first

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It was reluctant

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Or at the very least, he needed to be given proper initiative.

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Granted Johnny wasn’t as bad about it as Joseph was

white beacon
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maybe it was johnny's mindset too, in that he follows the steps of spin and thus his stand developed as acts

gleaming peak
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Joseph could have been rocking it as an old man in the 90s

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But no ripple practice for him if he doesn’t have to...

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Same for Jotaro to an extent

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Also to Johnny’s credit I don’t think he knew until he got the initiative in some way to do so

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Like Jesus telling him about it

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Not helping him is his mentor, Gyro, is like: ????? wuh duh heck is going on ????

white beacon
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gyro: johnny wtf you on about i don't see no pink fairy

gleaming peak
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BASICALLY

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“A mascot for the franchise? Whaaat”

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And Johnny didn’t get a pass like Koichi

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Who had a Stand that evolved in response to his feelings

rain zephyr
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What if josuke learns spin with soft and wet bubbles but it ends up like a asspull like the reqiuem arrow with giorno

gleaming peak
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It could be possible Kira knew the spin

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and this whole thing about him and his mom having jobs involving medical care relates to spin

minor ore
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GER wasn't an asspull

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What the heck are you talking about

spice crystal
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GER was not an asspull

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Jotaro’s time stop is the epitome of an asspull

minor ore
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This

spice crystal
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if you define an asspull as someone gaining a massively strong power after having fought directly for it for more than a third of the part

minor ore
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asspulls arent always bad ShigechiDab2

spice crystal
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then it is, but your definition sucks

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and you should get a new one

minor ore
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What's a good jojo asspull

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I am trying to think of one

spice crystal
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you could count bites the dust? Maybe

minor ore
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I dont think so

spice crystal
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since it was an accident

minor ore
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literally every final fight

spice crystal
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but it’s not really in the boundaries

minor ore
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Bites the dust would have been an asspull if Kira was like "oh I've had this since the beginning and didn't realize it!!!!"

spice crystal
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nah

minor ore
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Like jotaro

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tusk act 4

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Act 4

spice crystal
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no

minor ore
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Uh

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How is it an asspull

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Echoes act 3 is an asspull too then

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he gained a power that happens to counter love train

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It doesn't

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Or does it

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how does he go through it

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Didn't Gyro force love train open

spice crystal
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yes

minor ore
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And Johnny took advantage of it

spice crystal
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he did

minor ore
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gyro failed though

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He was like 99% done

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But he didnt have the perfect spin

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gyro failing is an asspull

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So he couldn't finish it

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Johnny could

white beacon
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wasn't it because his steel ball was a bit flawed, that why he couldn't do it a second time?

minor ore
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Yes

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a bit of the ball came off

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A part of the steel ball was cut off

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So it wasn't a perfect spin

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asspull

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Then Johnny used the perfect spin

white beacon
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while johnny literally just has a nail which is a disk, and it worked perfectly

minor ore
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Inb4 Johnny's nails are a perfect circle

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nails cant be?

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arent spheres better than circles lol

white beacon
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maybe when it goes into spin-bullet mode it goes into a sphere shape

minor ore
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Perhaps

white beacon
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if it really did go into a perfect sphere when spinning, maybe that relates directly to why josuke's bubbles(which are also spheres) come from a string, or what i may assume is some miniscule part of josuke

kind owlBOT
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@white beacon, Your Gangstar cred is now level 45 !

white beacon
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no i hate this level up

minor ore
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@kind owl fuck you

white beacon
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but i don't think tusk4/ballbreaker is an asspull, cuz the perfect spin goes spinning infinitely so if there was a barrier/wall, like love train, the perfect spin would eventually break through it because it spins infinitely

minor ore
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True

white beacon
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it's like the unstoppable force vs the immovable object, just that you can't move the object, but you can break it in due time

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so i don't think it's an asspull since the progress of spin has been going deeper and deeper and i guess it would eventually lead to it only ever going deeper, never stopping, always spinning

minor ore
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real talk why is his name josuke

white beacon
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because he was named after yasuho's dog, josuke

gleaming peak
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I think a good booty pull is how vague valentine’s inbetween condition is

white beacon
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not including the first ever d4c reveal, i feel like it's been consistent in the fact valentine needs to be between two objects in order for it to work, not including objects that are already on himself/constantly on him, like air

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though it still is pretty vague a bit

minor ore
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What if

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Caesar had d4c

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And survived

wary galleon
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well... the spin that johnny gained was from the horse

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gyro did aswell but johnny basically awakend the super spin actual stand by using something other than a steel ball, it was linked to like his power or some shit

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which is why tusk act 4 exsists

minor ore
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literally an ass pull

wary galleon
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hell

kind owlBOT
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@wary galleon, Your Gangstar cred is now level 18 !

wary galleon
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gyro had to die, his horse almost die

minor ore
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finger nails beats a steel ball btw

wary galleon
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literal last ditch effort

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that''s totally ok

minor ore
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nails can break too

wary galleon
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its better than fukin

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SaMe TyPe Of StAnD

stark wagon
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I feel like when Araki created love train he already did it with a solution in mind, with the spin lessons and acts already established it worked very well

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Same type of stand is an asspull because it came out of nowhere

wary galleon
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its a GOOD asspull

minor ore
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gyro died so johnny could become the main character

wary galleon
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because it MEANS something and has actual impact

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nah, even in death gyro was the main charcter

white beacon
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honestly, i doubt araki will ever make an asspull at the same level of SAME TYPE OF STAND

wary galleon
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was more relived that his horse didnt actually die and went back to venice

stark wagon
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Did he pull it from out of nowhere though? All the conditions were already established

wary galleon
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hey, main character death, havent seen that since part 1

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part 6 dosent count

minor ore
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also final arcs of part 3 5 6

faint rover
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i dont think SP being the same type of stand as Za Warudo was too big of an asspull

white beacon
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it kinda is

faint rover
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it was already shown that SP is really fast so yeah

wary galleon
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i dont ind part 5 because

faint rover
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and it made the final battle much more interesting imo

white beacon
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that's speed, not like, actual stoppage of time

wary galleon
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polnareff gets to reveal this big artifact that means a lot and then its used

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that's not even an asspull imo

faint rover
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well, maybe he used little time stops

minor ore
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when jotaro stops time during the road roller its actually an asspull

wary galleon
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^^^^^^^^

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part 3 has the worst fukin ending and start

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part 6 is saved for me because of how cool the whole made in heaven fight is

minor ore
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if dio stops time jotaro can see what hes doing

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jotaro literally a clone

wary galleon
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yeah he should have won through him out smarting

stark wagon
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What would the asspull in part 6 be?

minor ore
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two people cant have the same stand btw Smugechi

wary galleon
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boom family

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hermit purple

white beacon
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the only asspull i can think of for part 6 was SF's mobius strip, which i'm pretty sure you can't even create naturally

minor ore
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still cool

white beacon
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also the rats have the same type of stand, or same stand in general

wary galleon
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see an ass pull is ok IF

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its cool and justified

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part 3 wasnt

stark wagon
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I think it was cool

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Just not justified

wary galleon
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like part 2, you have the red stone big artifact and joesph is lucky as fuck anyway

minor ore
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jotaro got time stop power just so he can win

wary galleon
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EXACTLY

stark wagon
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Part 2 is like a whole new level of asspull

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It ascended

minor ore
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atleast they could have shown him using it before or something

wary galleon
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joesph IS an asspull with hermit purple

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his hamon is the strongest in the world

minor ore
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imo he does use time stop in previous fights

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like ndoul and darby the gambler

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but thats reaching

wary galleon
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if araki WROTE that like yeah

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ive always liked that idea

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like even with uh

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the lovers guy when he unches him

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steely dan

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HE'S PUNCHING SO HARD IT FEELS LIKE HE STOPPED TIME

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like with kira

minor ore
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giorno done that too

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attack rushes are like that

wary galleon
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yeah but if it pointed it out clearly with jotaro

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i would have stomached time stop much more

minor ore
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just a nice reference to time stop ig

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idk

white beacon
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if we actually saw one clear-cut instance of sp time stop before the final fight, it would be perfectly fine

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but noo araki just had to make vague shit like the darby juice

minor ore
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araki probably forgot

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johnny beat time stop without stopping time so it is possible

kind owlBOT
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@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 13 !

wary galleon
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johnny beats diego by sharing his fetish

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then deigo just kills himself

white beacon
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yeah but that was kinda part of tusk4 i guess? because tusk4 spins infinitely and thus it went through the space between regular time and stopped time

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but i guess i'm reaching a tad bit

wary galleon
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yeah that makes sense

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gonna be honest i read that on auto pilot because

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i hate stop time

white beacon
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😔

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but the shit was cool tho,i love how diego not only has a buncha knives for no damn reason, he also utilizes a random barrel of oil

wary galleon
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i mean yeah i saw the cool shit

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and i love that stuff

white beacon
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maybe that was a reference to the oil tanker..? hrmm

wary galleon
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A N O I L T A N K E R F O R Y O U

minor ore
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thanks for reminding me about the fetish......

green nacelle
gleaming peak
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Johnny hooked up with Rina cuz she got them bug bites

static pilot
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@grim socket what were you gonna say?

grim socket
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OK I haven't read this part but I know a little about the characters

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And apparently here is a version of Kira? who's mother tried to raise him better?

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So this version of Kira is not THAT much of a douche?

static pilot
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Oh yeah

spice crystal
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this version of Kira is not evil

grim socket
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Maybe something like that would have happened to Dio if his mother was alive?

static pilot
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Well instead of holy marrying a kujo shr marries kiras dad

grim socket
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Like I say I haven't read this part I only know the basics

static pilot
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So kiras a joestart technically here

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Joestar

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But he is quite similar to evil kira

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Just nicer

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Hes actually kind of like jotaro mixed with kira now that i think abiut it

wary galleon
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yeah that's exactly how he's written and i love it

static pilot
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How did that only just dawn on me

stark wagon
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reading that a thought just crossed my mind

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what if the head doctor is Yoshiteru Kira

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do we know if he's dead

static pilot
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Whoa

mint sparrow
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👀

spice crystal
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interesting

stark wagon
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since holly is involved in it all he could be too

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probably not a rock human though idk

static pilot
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I havent read all of jojolion thats out

spice crystal
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definitely not a rock human

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but then he’d be super old

static pilot
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I also havent gotten up to current episode of VA

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But that idea sounds interesting

spice crystal
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so idk how much of a threat he could be

static pilot
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I dunno why i mentioned va

stark wagon
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but could be something idk

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not even the right age

mossy robin
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Kira fucking dies.

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At least it wasn't an ambulance though.

static pilot
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Lol

gleaming peak
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Wow 14 year age difference

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Oof

static pilot
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Oh yeah

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Wtf

wary galleon
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HEY

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HEY

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if they're both of legal age

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love has no age barrier imo

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dont shame them

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i for one love older men

static pilot
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What if its 14 and 18

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Hmmmm

wary galleon
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is 14 legal?

stark wagon
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accourding to Wu

static pilot
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Here the age of consent is 18

stark wagon
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the 14th week is legal

wary galleon
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holy shit

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that joke almost killed me

static pilot
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Theres an 18 yr old who likes me and im 14

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Annoying af

stark wagon
wary galleon
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then you're not legal age

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i said if both are of legal age

static pilot
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I bet shes lost her self confidence after i said no

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Im actually friends with her

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So wait

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Youre saying if i was Japanese that would be okay?

wary galleon
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i dont make the law

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i only follow it

static pilot
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Same

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But if i was japanese id still say no

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Its weird and creepy

wary galleon
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i mean, that's your choice

stark wagon
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the age of consent here is 14 too

wary galleon
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i just dont shame stuff like that if its in the law

static pilot
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Think of it this way

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If i was 18 and she was 14 and i liked her thatd be called creepy

wary galleon
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my personal feelings is that until someone hits 20 they kinda dont have it figured out

static pilot
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Yes

wary galleon
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holy shit someone is drawing anti rockmen propaganda

gleaming peak
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Does anyone have a good place for the colored jojolion

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cuz the site I use, mangakakalot, just put all the noncoloured chapters in the list

white beacon
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Mangadex?

gleaming peak
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All right

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I wanna find a good pic of Dolomite.

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Cuz Jobin doesn't fit me...

white beacon
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implying dolomite had a good pic at all

gleaming peak
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He does tho

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He's beautiful.

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What if Tsurugi asked Norisuke if he was dead and Norisuke touched his chin

gleaming peak
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So does Jobin just put lipstick on all day

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"Jobin you don't have to do that anymore, you did it enough for the curse to leave you."

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"YOU CAN'T CONTROL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

static pilot
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@nimble otter

nimble otter
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Nani?

static pilot
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parts 3-6 had time altering stand villains

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part 7 had a dimension stand in D4C

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that dosent slter time

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it alters dimensions

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so part 8 and 9 should follow that trend

nimble otter
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True

static pilot
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so maybe part 9 will have some form of universe unification

nimble otter
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If Araki ever made a final part. Who do u think the main villain should be

static pilot
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or maybe thi will bein a part 10 i dont know

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Pefect lifeform dio brando over heaven bites the dust requiem

nimble otter
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Ultimate Kars sounds nice tho

white beacon
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Isn't d4c already multidimensional travel? And if you're thinking if the original universe will merge with the sbr universe, araki already debunked that

spice crystal
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I don’t think there will

static pilot
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oof

spice crystal
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since jojo kinda runs in trios

static pilot
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well still it will be dimension stuff

nimble otter
#

Parts 1-3 Buff Men Era

spice crystal
#

1-3 is the stone masks/vampires

nimble otter
#

Parts 4-6 Fashion Era

static pilot
#

ultimate dio brando over heaven bites the dust requiem the world

spice crystal
#

4-6 is the stand arrows

#

7-8 is ???

static pilot
#

what i mean is stand villains

nimble otter
#

Parts 7 - 9 Gay Bois

static pilot
#

original timeline had time stands

#

new one will have dimension altering stands

#

part 7-9 same face syndrome

nimble otter
#

Ultimate Kars Requiem

static pilot
#

ultimate dio brando over heaven bites the dust requiem awakened ACT 5

nimble otter
#

Nah I just want Kars back

static pilot
#

Kars is pretty cool

nimble otter
#

He can defeat Dio

static pilot
#

could he theoretically replicate a stand

nimble otter
#

Araki stated Jospeh is “still alive”

kind owlBOT
#

@nimble otter, Your Gangstar cred is now level 3 !

static pilot
#

in part 8

#

?

nimble otter
#

Apparently. Even tho everything is reset

static pilot
#

joseph still existed

#

hes int htat family tree

grizzled pilot
#

talkin about joseph in Stone Ocean

nimble otter
#

So the Ireneverse is just happy part 6

grizzled pilot
#

ireneverse is unclear but typically agreed to be the original universe without pucci

spice crystal
#

with slightly different characters

nimble otter
#

@grizzled pilot there’s a theory on Kars being the main villain in all of Jojos

grizzled pilot
#

there probably is

white beacon
#

There is a joseph that exists in part8 but that's a different joseph. And what araki stated was joseph being alive in part 6

grizzled pilot
#

slightly different characters can be chalked up to the butterfly effect

spice crystal
#

yes, that’s what it is

grizzled pilot
#

there's no confirmation that joseph is alive in ireneverse

#

(though i don't see why he wouldn't be)

nimble otter
#

Part 70 Joseph is still alive after the universe is reset

spice crystal
#

pucci edited things in the ireneverse which caused it to be different character wise

grizzled pilot
#

araki said something about irene a couple times

#

one, that she's not irene (gorgeous irene)

white beacon
#

Tch

grizzled pilot
#

Jolyne Cujoh’s memories might be different in the reset of the universe but her love and her feelings are still there, they became something eternal and I’m sure she’ll keep growing wiser and stronger. second

nimble otter
#

If all the Jojo universes were merged into one, who would be the villain

grizzled pilot
#

all the villains would fight each other

rich depot
#

Kars would kinda win by default

#

He‘s literally invincible

nimble otter
#

He should be the main villain to the final part

#

Honestly

grizzled pilot
#

sure would be a shame... if there were some guy with the power to destroy things at the cellular level...

rich depot
#

The Hospital Boss is just Kars with King Crimson

noble zenith
#

oh no

nimble otter
#

So how does KC work?

grizzled pilot
#

:v

nimble otter
#

Ending theme to part 8: September

static pilot
#

BOBOBOBBOBOBOB

#

idk

nimble otter
#

Part 1: Ship

#

Part 2: Plane

#

Part 3: Road Roller

#

Part 4: Ambulance

minor ore
#

My man gappy is underrated

#

When you get large 🍟

coarse wyvern
#

when you get soft and/or wet

green nacelle
#

When you have 4 testicles

minor ore
#

I like large fries

#

But not

#

F R I E D C H I C K E N

low cobalt
#

Kakyoin warmed us all about Tsurugi 5 parts ago. Baby Stand was meant for him!

minor ore
#

Gappy

kind owlBOT
#

@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 7 !

minor ore
#

He could have been better

gleaming peak
#

Gappy?

#

Are you saying you want soft and wet to take off it’s face like a mask and have the reveal be it was killer queen

#

Killer & Queen

stray reef
#

Soft and Wet is juicy

#

It can steal my virginity

minor ore
#

I wouldn’t be surprised if araki ended the final part with the enemy winning

#

Or no one

gleaming peak
#

I mean I can’t in good conscience call the rock humans an enemy

#

Since a lot of their instigation with the protagonists is in retaliation as opposed to them going out of their way to mess with Jojo and his crew

#

It isn’t like Dio

mossy robin
#

Except for Urban Guerrilla.

gleaming peak
#

Who went out of his way to mess with Jonathan

#

Yeah he’s the exception

#

Even Damo technically isn’t an enemy until he goes beyond what is called for

#

Most of them are just trying to survive in this world that they have to adapt to survive in

mossy robin
#

Rock Humans are pretty good at that.
I mean look at Doctor Wu.

#

He actually was trying to find a way to make the Rokakaka safe to use.
And kinda did.

gleaming peak
#

Wu isn’t even going out of his way to ruin Mitsuba’s life

#

SHE CAME TO HIM

#

Despite it being implied she is somewhat self aware of what she is doing to her own body

mossy robin
#

R.I.P. nose.

wary galleon
#

one more coloured manga chapter and we get coloured soft and wet with shovel

mossy robin
#

I can't wait until Colored Speed King driving a car.

wary galleon
#

YES

#

SAME

stark wagon
#

it will be a long while before that

#

before next year hopefully but idk

stray reef
#

Yall read the uncolored and wait for the colored or just read the colored

stark wagon
#

I read the colored, obvious choice imo

#

Araki artwork is gourgeos no matter what

#

Also good luck waiting for colored now that colored adventure catched up

mossy robin
#

I read Black and White and on a reread it's colored.

spice crystal
#

^

stark wagon
#

I actually said I read the colored when I meant B&W

#

pls bear with me kirasweat

hushed rover
#

Anybody got a site with all the jojo lion chaoters colored

stark wagon
#

those are all available at the moment

#

B&W is of course much ahead

hushed rover
#

Ty

gleaming peak
#

So I wonder

#

Do the people hit by dolomite's stand get care afterward

#

Not by the stand I mean like

#

The kid does he get taken to a hospital

wary galleon
#

hopefully someone contacts the emergency services

faint rover
#

i think all the people that got affected by it just come back to normal after the effect ends

static pilot
faint rover
#

i mean

#

josuke also had some blood and stuff around him like the other people

#

and right after it ended he came back to normal with 0 blood

#

so who knows?

gleaming peak
#

No I know they go back to normal

#

I'm just concerned on whether or not they got proper care

#

Like that boy

wary galleon
#

well yeah

#

josuke never fucking rammed his head into a wall

gleaming peak
#

He did

#

Well technically a stand did

faint rover
#

by saying they go back to normal i also meant that maybe all their wounds get healed somehow :P

stark wagon
#

pretty cool

summer tree
#

Oh my lol
That's weird

#

THIS IS PROOF THAT IT'S THE IRENEVERSE

stark wagon
#

don't say it GWqlabsMonkaSs

minor ore
#

Gyro, Kira and Johnny hat

white beacon
#

well, kira hat makes sense

#

he got it there after all

minor ore
#

Suuuuuuuure

white beacon
#

??

stark wagon
#

it's just an easter egg from araki no need to look too much into it imo

white beacon
#

johnny and gyro's hat can make sense in-universe too, since they entered the sbr race, their hats might have gotten famous as much as they could have

#

though everything else is obviously just easter eggs

minor ore
#

@stark wagon there's also a character who used clothes who has "stone ocean" write on his back

stark wagon
#

oh ye kaato I member

#

jojolion has a lot of jojo references

#

funnily enough

wary galleon
#

kaato went to jail

#

woman in jail

#

black priest will show u[

#

part 8 will get reset

#

part 9 is set in an alternative universe where dio is a stone mason and johnathon is a gogo dancer

grizzled pilot
#

broooo what if josuke ends up wearing the DMQ hat

wary galleon
#

the dmq

#

?

stark wagon
#

do you think part 9 will be a throwback to vento aureo

grizzled pilot
#

Deadman's Q

wary galleon
#

oh shit

#

oh shit

#

he might

minor ore
#

@stark wagon

wary galleon
#

and then

#

DEAD MANS KIRA SOUL WILL INHABIT JOSUKE

#

AND THEN SAVE THE WORLD FORM TSUGRI

minor ore
#

God I hope not @stark wagon

summer tree
#

Part 9 might be a throwback to Vento Aureo AND Stone Ocean

wary galleon
#

i hope part 9 itsnt a throwback

grizzled pilot
#

not quite what i was getting at but sure

wary galleon
#

and is an original story

summer tree
#

That's what most people say at least

stark wagon
#

SBR was mostly 1, Jojolion is 4 and maaaybe 2

summer tree
#

You can say SBR has a little 3 cause of za warudo though

stark wagon
#

ye true, he kind of goes around

wary galleon
#

and uh

summer tree
#

Although of people debate the exact connections

wary galleon
#

stands maybe i dont rmember stands in part 1

stark wagon
#

JJL has 3 too cause of Holly and the bloodline

summer tree
#

Some people say 1 and 2 for 7 cause of the spin

stark wagon
#

stands are just a jojo thing not really a throwback

summer tree
#

Some people have 3 cause of Holly yeah

wary galleon
#

par t9

#

we throw away stands

#

we go back to hamon

minor ore
#

Ugh

wary galleon
#

i want part 9 to do one major thing

#

i want it to suprise me

minor ore
#

Hamon only works on the living

wary galleon
#

in a huge way more than jojo alreayd does

summer tree
#

But if Part 9 is a throwback to 5 and 6

wary galleon
#

i dont want a throw back :(

#

i want a new cool story!

summer tree
#

We better get damn female Italian Jojo

stark wagon
#

SBR and JJL are cool new stories though

minor ore
#

Who drink pisses

wary galleon
#

SBR is yeah

#

but JJL feels too close to part 4 to me

#

which i love

stark wagon
#

Really?

summer tree
#

Part 8 isn't quite like 4

wary galleon
#

but im gonna get bored soon if they keep that up

#

yeah

stark wagon
#

Idk, the rokakaka and whole who am I thing feels fresh for me

summer tree
#

Part 4 didn't have an alchemist fruit black market group

minor ore
#

Well it has those useless arcs like part 4

wary galleon
#

the rokakaka is the cool thing in part 8 and i love that

summer tree
#

I can't think of useless Part 8 arcs

#

Aside from Milagro Man

#

But Milagro Man is great

wary galleon
#

but, morioh and higshikata and a bit of a mystery and the town is a normal town but wierd people in it and blah blah blah

#

it's 100% amazing and is slowly becoming my best part

#

but i can see part 9 just being more throwback and i dont like that idea

minor ore
#

How about that street with paper stands @summer tree?

stark wagon
#

did we get anything referencing part 5 or 6 in the SBR universe yet

summer tree
#

That introduced Joshu's stand

wary galleon
#

i dont think we honestly need it

stark wagon
#

We also got Johnny's death from that

white beacon
#

gdst prison is where kaato was imprisoned

wary galleon
#

SBR universe stands up on its own very veyr well

summer tree
#

And was created as a result of Johnny's death

stark wagon
#

lol true we were just talking about the prison and I forgot about it

minor ore
#

And yet Joshu stand was never seen again lol

summer tree
#

But

#

Milagro Man

wary galleon
#

see if part 9 is a big throwback it';kl start to feel like dark souls 3 to me

summer tree
#

And this recent chapter

white beacon
#

and the whole rokakaka smuggling group/org is kinda a part 5 thing, in some form

minor ore
#

Just like California king bed roll

wary galleon
#

more relying on past greatness than holding up.

summer tree
#

And like a bunch of other times

wary galleon
#

it STILL 100% holds up but still

#

you know wha ti do love tho

#

fruit appraiser living in a fucking ski lift

summer tree
#

CALIFORNIA KING BED BETTER COME BACK

wary galleon
#

i love that

summer tree
#

AND BORN THIS WAY TOO

minor ore
#

@summer tree worst stand

summer tree
#

AND JUST NIJIMURS PERIOD

wary galleon
#

i think you mean

minor ore
#

Born this way was cool

wary galleon
#

going underground

summer tree
#

Tower of Gray is worst stand

wary galleon
#

the suprioer name and song

minor ore
#

I'm talking about part 8 so...

summer tree
#

I just call it what I read first

minor ore
#

Why did the Bastard changed the name?

summer tree
#

Well in Part 8 that's still false lol

#

Blue Hawaii is the worst stand

stark wagon
#

@wary galleon I think the only moment Araki relied too much on past greatness was AU Diego by the end of SBR

summer tree
#

It sucks so bad

#

Blue Hawaii is such a bad arc

minor ore
#

Useless arc

summer tree
#

It's not useless

minor ore
summer tree
#

It's bad

#

But not useless

stark wagon
#

I liked blue hawaii

summer tree
#

There's a difference

#

Blue Hawaii only has some good Jobin moments

#

Most of the fight is

#

Something gorey happens

#

Josuke runs

minor ore
#

Who's Jobim? Are you talking about another character who only uses his stand once?

summer tree
#

Something gorey happens

stark wagon
#

It had cool chase scenes (although it might go for too long), yasuho is useful and Jobin is great

summer tree
#

Josuke runs

#

Repeat

minor ore
#

That's why i chase you!

stark wagon
#

I'd hate that arc if I had read it monthly probably, but I like it for what it is

minor ore
#

Who's "California King bed", anyway? Lol

summer tree
#

Not only that but there is a plot hole in it

#

At the start of the fight, at some point Josuke's shoe is taken off by who's chasing him at that time

#

He goes and buys new shoes

#

Later when he's caught by the baby

#

The baby touchs his shoe and he fucking turns

#

That's not how the stand worked earlier

stark wagon
#

wasn't it implied that he just let the baby catch up to him

#

but the scene cuts when the baby touches his shoe?

#

idk been a while since i've read it

summer tree
#

Not only that but Josuke freezing up at the baby was....out of character for him?

#

I don't know

stark wagon
#

he's pretty savage but killing a baby might be too much even for him

summer tree
#

True

#

But he did let a kid wreck himself earlier

#

But I guess there's enough of an age gap

#

For it to be too far

minor ore
#

I hate this arc more than California King Bed

#

And CKB at least had a good design and ability

mossy robin
#

Shakedown Road is good if you know how it works.

#

You can get filthy rich.

sharp portal
#

I mean hey at least it's another Grateful Dead stand

#

Er, as in it's a song by the Grateful Dead, not that it's like the stand Grateful Dead

minor ore
#

You got me confused for a second @sharp portal

sharp portal
#

my bad

minor ore
#

No prob

#

I wish David Pro skip this arc

white beacon
#

too bad that'll only ever be a wish

#

they will never betray the source material like that

minor ore
#

I don't see that as a betray but a favor

stark wagon
#

It's one of those arcs that help build the town and make it feel real

#

Idk why people usually hate those

#

Also the legend of Johnny Joestar is greato

white beacon
#

yeah

gleaming peak
#

I wonder if Josuke was willing to kill civilians

white beacon
#

i mena, it's not realyl harming the story at all, it's probably even helping it in some form

gleaming peak
#

would blue hawaii end differently

minor ore
#

@stark wagon because is like one of those boring arcs like part 4

gleaming peak
#

Shakedown Road is essential to part 8

white beacon
#

hmm, i think if josuke was willing to kill during blue hawaii, it'd be even faster for it to end

#

like josuke would just get infected quicker

gleaming peak
#

It establishes how drastically different of a morioh we are dealing with than part 4’s

white beacon
#

it's boring, but it still plays a big role yeah

minor ore
#

Yeah like breaking some old guy TV

gleaming peak
#

It establishes how in part 4 stands were new to the town

white beacon
#

also about johnny and then johnny;s story and that connects to the higashikata's and then bloodlines and the josuke

gleaming peak
#

Due to Keicho and Yoshi

minor ore
#

The new Joestar bloodline is interesting

gleaming peak
#

In part 8 they are a common thing and even the average joe can manipulate a stand even if they have no real knowledge of stands

minor ore
#

It shows that Pucci had nothing to do with this part

gleaming peak
#

Literally that entire block is just con artists

#

Because they figured out how it works

#

It also helps establish some differences between Joshuu and Gappy that still hold somewhat true

white beacon
#

in part 7 too, wekapipo doens't know the true thing about stands, but he knows about it at least and is helped by magenta

gleaming peak
#

Gappy is more straight forward

#

Joshuu, who can be described as an ally, is willing to lie and tamper with evidence if cornered

minor ore
#

Joshu had already showed how different he was from Gappy,hey at least he has a stand

gleaming peak
#

But Joshuu at the time also proves that stands in this universe are more of an average thing

white beacon
#

yeah that's important too, that joshuu has a stand, cuz well, it'd be hella weird if we didn't see his stand before but that tongue thing in the recent chapter still happens

gleaming peak
#

Granted I believe he did see shakedown road is just a harvest with no fatty

#

But he can’t conceptualize how it works as a stand

#

Something happened in this universe that made stands just another existing thing

#

Also I think the Johnny story is a good establishing arc for how far people are going to go to prevent this disease

#

It also helps that most of part 8 is about people trying to use whatever means they can to overcome supernatural health issues

minor ore
#

The only thing we saw about Johnny in this part

gleaming peak
#

Johnny literally used jesus

#

Part 8 is also about family and somewhat morality

minor ore
#

I understand your point about Johnny.
But i just can't defend this arc.

gleaming peak
#

Johnny learns he couldn’t bring himself to put the curse on someone else after it transfers to his son

minor ore
#

I prefer re-read California King Bed again

gleaming peak
#

Tomoko just lets it kill her

mossy robin
#

At least Shakedown Road develops a character we see again.

#

Instead of Daiya who I wish we saw more of.

gleaming peak
#

Mitsuba... does what she does

minor ore
#

What's so good about Daiya?

mossy robin
#

She's got California King Bed, a Stand that can take memories.

#

Also known as.

#

Information.

#

Which Gappy is trying to get.

gleaming peak
#

The thing that makes me laugh about part 8 is it took the higashikata family 3 generations to have someone involved who just goes: Kill some other kid

#

As far as we know every other generation just had a family member bite the bullet in some capacity

minor ore
#

Bite za bullet

#

Sorry

#

Good design

sharp portal
#

kinda fucked up that Sugar Mountain Lite used it to try to make Josuk8 her sex slave essentially

minor ore
#

Is the four balls

#

They just love it

mossy robin
#

Part 7 had pedos and Part 8 has reverse pedos.

#

Daiya is 16 and Gappy is basically an adult.

minor ore
#

Two adults

white beacon
#

what

minor ore
white beacon
#

actually, nvm

minor ore
#

There's a chance that Gappy x Yatsuho going to happen in the end

mossy robin
#

Well he just ruined the relationship a little.

#

In the latest chapter.

grizzled pilot
#

gappy is only a few weeks or so old cause he didn't exist before that

minor ore
#

@mossy robin it happens

mossy robin
#

Yasuho is probably going to get back with her ex, or just nobody at all.

minor ore
#

When is JoJolion going to end? This year perhaps?

mossy robin
#

Around 2020 I think.
Maybe after.

stark wagon
#

no way it ends this year

minor ore
#

Why?

white beacon
#

definitely not this year, i doubt this will all wrap up in under 10 chapters

minor ore
#

Will be a main villain?

grizzled pilot
#

he died in part 1

granite sedge
#

I think Araki's definitely been sleeping on California King Bed, pun not intended.

#

It's activated when someone frets over Daiya, right?

#

Who are two of our biggest antagonists?

#

Daiya's mom and her oldest brother.

#

The potential for info collecting is huge.

sharp portal
#

I wonder if in a completely dark room if it's impossible to stop the ability

#

CKB that is

granite sedge
#

Kaato might not know that Daiya is as fragile as she is, so she's probably less susceptible to it even in the dark.

#

Jobin though could definitely be made a victim by CKB.

gleaming peak
#

Part 7 also had bug bite fetish

#

part 8 has biting

minor ore
#

What happened to the bite marks anyways?

gleaming peak
#

They might be something with the wall eyes

#

I wonder why in this universe more people are being born with their stands

#

I mean for like the Joestars, Johnny made a Stand hereditary

#

But a lot of the people in part 7 just have them

minor ore
#

Yes the marks probably had something to do with the wall eyes,but what?

gleaming peak
#

And in part 8, Rock Humans are born with them and the citizens of Morioh seem to have an idea of Stands but not enough to name them or anything

#

Maybe it’s a being who can give others Stands

#

Like an arrow with teeth

minor ore
gleaming peak
#

Joshuu’s Stand took a while for him to develop though

#

I wonder why he is the odd one out

#

In his siblings

minor ore
#

Cause he's an idiot( I guess)

gleaming peak
#

Maybe it represents how he isn’t very aware of his surroundings

#

Cuz one of his sisters debuts using it

#

it being her stand

#

and the other is implied to have had it but not a reason to use it

mossy robin
#

People in Part 8 used the Devil's Palm and corpse parts to do Stand things.

gleaming peak
#

I thought jesus was in america after Johnny died

gleaming peak
#

What if

#

Part 9 is about a JoJo trying to make Gappy choose to be Kira

static pilot
#

Whoa

gleaming peak
#

It’s just steven universe

#

Gappy is Steven

#

And the other jojo’s are the diamond authority

gleaming peak
#

Or Dio

warm gulch
minor ore
#

if their was a part 9, who do you think the main protag would be?

#

considering we had jonathan, then the whole kira thing happened

#

so where would araki go from there if he made a part 9

grizzled pilot
#

just keep fusing more past villains to josefumi

minor ore
#

giorno and diavolo just fuse and bam

#

wait would that end at part 10 if they continued to do that

#

considering

#

pucci and jolyne

#

cant really fuse

grizzled pilot
#

no i mean just keep sticking more and more guys onto josuke

minor ore
#

oh god

grizzled pilot
#

we've already got kira

minor ore
#

until he becomes an amalgamate with 16 balls

grizzled pilot
#

it might not be too late to dig up diego

#

kars... eh

#

diavolo's might be somewhere around italy right now, pucci is probably around florida

#

we can still do this

minor ore
#

after the universe reset?

#

wait would diavolo be immune

grizzled pilot
#

different pucci

minor ore
#

would he still be in giorno’s death loop while pucci resets

grizzled pilot
#

different diavolo too

minor ore
#

he would just come out of GER’s ability?

grizzled pilot
#

he's there infinitely. the reset doesn't matter

minor ore
#

aw thats epic

stark wagon
#

I wanna meet SBR doppio

grizzled pilot
#

fuses diavolo to josuke and let doppio have his own body

minor ore
#

i wonder if doppio and diavolo would be two separate people after the universe reset

static pilot
#

Steel

#

Ball

#

Run

#

Isnt

#

Thw

#

Reset

#

Universe

#

You

#

Plebs

grizzled pilot
#

cool how we're not talking about that

static pilot
#

Comedic mentioned it actuall

minor ore
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wait how isnt it

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@static pilot

static pilot
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I kniw it seems like it be the reset universe pucci made

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But araki confirmed it isnt

minor ore
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could i see the quote

wary galleon
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weeeerrrrrllllll

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for one thing, the family tree chart dosent line up to be irene ANYWHERE

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and part 8 takes place in a time scale after part 6 would

static pilot
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Yeah

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Thats all you need

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Cant be botheres looking for an araki quote rn

gleaming peak
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Part 9 can be about Gappy’s kid or like

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The fun thing is that the Joestar family is way bigger in this universe than before

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It doesn’t have to be the George family line, even

static pilot
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I assume this is just a universe where more people from england moved to america

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Including the joestars

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And that butterfly affected to everything else

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Also no vampires

gleaming peak
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The Joestars in sbr universe are old family from kentucky

static pilot
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Maybe the vampirelessness snowballed into this

gleaming peak
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IE Been there a long time

static pilot
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I mean more british settlers

grizzled pilot
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there are no old families from kentucky lmao

static pilot
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Obviously

gleaming peak
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Nah there are tho

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They got deep rooooots

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Or so it is said...

grizzled pilot
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yall white people came here like 300 years ago at latest

gleaming peak
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Anyway, Johnny had two kids and

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Whoa white people

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CAUCASIANS

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Anyway, George has four kids

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Joseph I believe still only had one

static pilot
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Its interesting

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I like the idea of an Australian joestar cus in australian

wary galleon
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hey iggy im done about kc

static pilot
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Yt the next one will probs be italian

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I know

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I read it

gleaming peak
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But the point stands that in this new universe it doesn’t have to be Jonathan>George II>Joseph>kids of Joseph>kids of Joseph’s kids>kids of kids of joseph’s kids

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And then the other one

wary galleon
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nno i mean you can talk normally in there now

gleaming peak
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George’s younger brother

static pilot
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Giorno

gleaming peak
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Spaghetti Boy

static pilot
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The next will be italian

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Most likely

gleaming peak
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Half banana boy

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We don’t even know if George stayed in Japan

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As far as we know he could have just gone off to the us and part 3 happened all over again

static pilot
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Jojolion will just end with the villain being revealed in the last part

gleaming peak
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“Holly likes this japanese man we never see”

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The villain is Sadao Kujo

wary galleon
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you knwo what would be funny

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its been norisuke all along

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and tsurgi just kills him

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and thats it

static pilot
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NANANI

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Lmao

wary galleon
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just that xd

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i can see it being norrisuke all along

gleaming peak
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And then like we learn king nothing was actually manipulating everything behind the scenes

wary galleon
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yeah

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king nothing has a secondary ability

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thats be such a sneaky norisuke thing

rocky charm
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If Joubin's explicitly keeping the Rokakaka from Josuke

wary galleon
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telling josuke this is my stands ability

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then reveals another super fucking strong abilty

rocky charm
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Doesn't that by default make him the "main" villain now?

gleaming peak
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Like how Jobin’s stand is implied to be more complex

wary galleon
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kiiind ok

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Of

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yeha

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jobin is on the high list

rocky charm
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Because we're in the endgame

wary galleon
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though actually

rocky charm
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The goal is to get the fruit

wary galleon
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itd be really internest if we didnt HAVE a prper main villian

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and its just a story about people being people