yeah i sure didnt
#jojolion
vague wasp
rocky charm
Why didn't people pay attention to that arc?
Were they busy paying attention to someonething else?
craggy belfry
I didn't pay attention to it first time either idk why
summer tree
question is though
were the numerous cans of peas
set up by Fun Fun Fun guy
or does Kira just really like peas
craggy belfry
it is stated Kira LOVES green things
so that's just him being a weirdo
My precious weirdo
Kira part 8 > part 4 by a longshot imo
summer tree
I know Vitamin C flashback is the last we saw of Kira
and might be the last
but I'm gonna hold off on which Kira I deem better when Part 8 ends
honestly I'm not sure what I feel about a lot of things in Part 8
rocky charm
Part 8 Kira is hotter
craggy belfry
not necessarily, we still need to find out who was in Josuke's flash back
summer tree
the only thing I can definitively say is that Gappy is my third fav protag
unless Araki forgets the dude in Josuke's flashback
rocky charm
What's your ranking?
summer tree
Johnny > Jolyne > Gappy > Josuke > Joseph > Giorno > Jonathan > Jotaro???
honestly my opinion on Giorno right now is anime Giorno
not manga Giorno
craggy belfry
Johnny > Gappy = Giorno > Jotaro > Jonathan > Jolyne > Josuke > Joseph
summer tree
Giorno is a dilemma for me
cause even after reading Part 8
he was my least fave protag
but the anime is making me see him a different light
don't know why though
craggy belfry
when I first read Vento Aureo I had shit taste
albeit I had reason for having shit taste but it was still shit
summer tree
I think part of me not liking Part 5 as much as it was my first time doing the manga
I had just gotten off Part 4
and I started reading Part 5 the same day
flat vale
I mean I think it might be easy to argue that part 5 is the weakest of the “stand parts”. Mainly because in my opinion that the power scale on most stands was a little too high and a few separate times problems are solved by doing nothing at all, such as chariot requiem if memory serves
rich depot
I hate how someone almost dies in a bunch of fights, so when it actually happens you don‘t really notice it.
kind owlBOT
@rich depot, Your Gangstar cred is now level 17 !
rich depot
Yeet
Same goes for SBR
Johnny literally gets shot in the head multiple times
But bam, he back to normal again in no time
rich depot
Even better
flat vale
Even better?
rich depot
Valentine, Johnny, and Gyro have a talk
Johnny gets to keep a fingerbone to keep his stand
America gets the corpse
Gyro lives
Diego becomes president of the world during the next election
And they live happily ever after
craggy belfry
Diego becomes president of the world would honestly put the world in the shitter cause then Valentine would challenge him but aside from that 10 out of 10
flat vale
I think one of those was actually right
craggy belfry
actually 9/10 nothing on Steven or Pocoloco
flat vale
America did in fact get jebus
craggy belfry
also johnny doesn't need the corpse for his stand
which is weird
cause at one point he does
craggy belfry
yeah he has it in different universes and the whole final battle he doesn't have the corpse
that's a good theory
flat vale
Let’s not get started on the inconsistency of stand rules in part 7 and their relation to the corpse parts, because boy howdy are they not concrete at all
Like he gets tusk from the corpse and retains it after the part goes away, but gyro for some reason doesn’t get to retain SCAN
white beacon
I mean, stands and stand rules are inconsistent throughout all of jojo
white beacon
there's no completely concrete rule, since stands are dependent on the user so manifestation and ability are always inconsistent
rich depot
I may be misunderstanding rule 2
flat vale
Yeah that just says you can’t hit a stand with a rock and do damage
rich depot
Rule 4 is definitely broken though
flat vale
Unless your stand is a rock
flat vale
3 is the only rule on there NEVER broken
craggy belfry
stands can only hurt stands and not people
rich depot
Nah man you‘re right, I did mean that lol
flat vale
Or no wait even rule 3 is broken by superfly
So yeah every rule in that list is broken multiple times
rich depot
When is 5 broken, just curious
craggy belfry
Red Hot Chili Pepper
flat vale
Technically notorious BIG
rich depot
O right
craggy belfry
BIG was never defeated though
flat vale
Sheer heart attack if you count it as it’s own thing
craggy belfry
I think we need to stop looking at general rules as inconsistencies unless its really a situation where it should apply
remember when Diego cut off his own leg, what a badass
flat vale
Remember when Diego ate fucking rocks
craggy belfry
remember when Diego was split into 2 pieces... twice
hey wait why did they kill Diego again
The World Diego
what did he do wrong
craggy belfry
Lucy didn't know that
flat vale
Was named Diego
rich depot
He did indirectly make Johnny explode all those women
white beacon
had the corpse
rich depot
Which I can‘t wait to be a black screen in the anime
craggy belfry
yean he was going to put it away and he succeeded in that
flat vale
Yeah wasn’t Lucy there when Johnny went “OH SHIT SOMEONE SNATCHED JESUS”
craggy belfry
I think so
supple totem
when the new chap coming out?
granite pelican
next year
supple totem
supple totem
thx bröther👌
stark fossil
Surely parts 7 and 8 will get seinen-appropriate airtime
Everything on full display
white beacon
VA's airtime is already what you could call "seinen-appropriate" lololol
it airs in japan at 1AM
and seinen is based on the themes of the story, not necessarily gore and all that stuffs
actually, more seinen series generally tackle about life-stuffs
stark fossil
So they can't even show bad stuff in adult airtime wooow
flat vale
I can’t wait until they reference Seinfeld in part 8
I always figured the amount of active members in JJL would be equal to SBR but woah man does the SBR chat run at 100 MPH somedays
jolly mountain
Ok so I'm starting Jojolion and I wonder if the first chapter is really the first chapter
white beacon
what
white beacon
oh, it's atsuro
primal mulch
👀
jolly mountain
yup but it looked weird
jolly mountain
wtf with the sailor
rich depot
^^^ basically the plot of jojoloin
jolly mountain
yoshikage Kira
I should have get it when he got a boner
THERE'S A WAMEN IN THE TUB
Yasuho is kink-shaming
rich depot
Kira is forever destined to be kinkshamed no matter what
rocky charm
But it's not Kira's kink this time it was a setup
stark fossil
How could you say something so controversial yet so brave
jolly mountain
DiU Kira is pretty charming
Don't you agree ?
@stark fossil We're on internet, I don't fear controversy
Did Josuke stole Kira's steel balls ?
Uuuuh... Higashikata family is... Idk what to think about it
rocky charm
Ooh, are you just starting?
flat vale
ayyyy we on the daiya train boys
rocky charm
I haven't actually read enough to meet her yet
But from the three pictures I've seen I already love her
flat vale
The Daiya train grows larger by the day
stark fossil
Skip the Daiya arc until December lul
rocky charm
?
stark fossil
I'm UK I can say that
rocky charm
idgi
stark fossil
dw shit joke
Let this be a lesson
I think the whole family is amazing but they have a kind of rocky start
versed crown
daiya nsfw
flat vale
DAIYA SFW
jolly mountain
"I'm gonna chage so come to my room and help me out"
flat vale
Ya'll don't be messing with the NSFW when children are involved
jolly mountain
Actually she's 16
rich depot
That‘s legal in my state so we good
flat vale
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
jolly mountain
"Josuke, do you like big and fluffy girls"
What does it even mean
flat vale
I pity you if you don't know what that means
flat vale
cuddle girls best girls thus daiya bestest girl
rocky charm
^^^^^^^^^^^
rich depot
If anything she was taking advantage of Josuke‘s memory loss
...That she caused
#MindRapeIsNotOk
flat vale
Nah don't think about the details
stark fossil
10 days left aaaargh
craggy belfry
Hey Araki please draw Mista, Gappy, Johnny, and Gyro with their hats off
flat vale
no
craggy belfry
😢
minor ore
please no
versed crown
Hey araki draw diego without his pants on thanks
flat vale
I mean technically he drew diego butt ass naked
kind owlBOT
@flat vale, Your Gangstar cred is now level 11 !
flat vale
yo don't level me up off that sentence
clear fossil
Could yuya find kira with his scent power
gaunt meteor
You know, King Nothing and Highway Star are kind of similar.
kind owlBOT
@gaunt meteor, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !
gaunt meteor
Except for their appearance.
flat vale
@clear fossil kira isn't missing?
flat vale
In which part?
because in part 4 he's not even technically "wanted for murder" because in the eyes of the law there's no real way to prove it, and in part 8 he's not really a murderer
clear fossil
In part 4 and hmmm
lone robin
in part 4 no one other than the main cast knows he's a murderer
kind owlBOT
@lone robin, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !
lone robin
in part 8 he's just a huge narcissist that likes his own hands
quiet zodiac
"I get a boner"
peak zealot
So people said that the maid girl with the Born This Way stand/Yoshikage from this part is the counterpart to Jotaro
Who is closer?
cerulean ridge
kyo (the maid girl) has more elements of jotaro's design but i guess kira is closer personality wise??
cerulean ridge
he wasn't the zeppeli but he got caesared
rotund haven
I hate when people bring up kyo because she got done dirty
craggy belfry
Johnny lost his head just like Jonathan
rotund haven
Who took his body THONK
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !
craggy belfry
yes
cause the answer is
kind of?
he likes his own hands
idk why he likes the mona lisa then though
elfin mist
with how vocal kira is about hands in part 8 thru his house design, it prolly isn't a fetish
least not as much
rotund haven
And jojolion is a mess enough on it's own that it shouldn't tie into the old family tree
craggy belfry
Kira and Kyo would be alt Jotaro
@summer tree
so we can't have the Ireneverse be sbrverse
summer tree
unless.....
unless
what if Kira is somehow
Irene's father
I mean he's 29
it's not that farfetched
rotund haven
It's a mess
craggy belfry
Kira and Ireneverse Jotaro don't even look remotely similar and he doesn't live in Florida
summer tree
don't even look remote similar
you're saying that like all parent/child pairs in Jojo look the same
I'm not saying none of them do
but there's a few cases where the parents are a far cry from the kid
also it never said Ireneverse Jotaro lives in Florida
rotund haven
You'd have to rewrite a lot of stuff to tie them together
summer tree
not really??
rotund haven
Fine not rewrite
You'd have to make connections that just seem out of place
Like btw Gappy you also have a kid and she's on a roadtrip in america with her fiance for some reason
Oh and they're also on their way to meet you now
The timeline would be present (pt 6), into the past (pt 7), and then back to the present again (pt 8)
spring monolith
I think he is working to combine the two universes in pt. 9
white beacon
Most likely isn't
Since he states in an inter view for ASB that the games are the only ones able to merge the two universes, this having two josukes fight
Since he states in an inter view for ASB that the games are the only ones able to merge the two universes, this having two josukes fight
spring monolith
Ah
white beacon
As the original universe and the sbrverse aren't connected by time and space, this would never meet at all in the manga
spring monolith
Does the original universe still exist? From my understanding everyone who died no longer exists but have been replaced by a new individual that more or less filled their role.
sharp portal
Unless D4C could travel to that universe
summer tree
but apparently D4C can't
sharp portal
Oh
summer tree
at least that's what we've been told
sharp portal
I wasn't sure if we knew whether or not it was possible
summer tree
(have you guys ever thought that Araki is just lying just so he can surprise us?)
white beacon
If d4c could, we coulda seen completelt different versions of the sbr characters as it travelled along timelines
But no it's always just johnny and lucy and everyone but with minor changes
sharp portal
I'd love a sort of spin off of Jojo where the MC is Valentine, and he's like an AU explorer
Going into AU's and checking em' out and stuff
white beacon
I dont know asb's story mode but in eoh, it literally needs the power to rewrite reality in order for the universes to merge
So unless you're ability is that, then I don't see original universe in sbrverse
spring monolith
F
clear fossil
🤔
flat vale
jumping back to something said earlier, i'm like 99% sure ireneverse and SBR verse were confirmed to be separate
white beacon
Thats, literally what araki said
flat vale
I started like 30 messages back so i'm just repounding the nail
rotund haven
The thing with 1-6 was the protag was always the hero of justice and what not, but with 7-8 the jojo is very personal and ruthless
Giorno is close but he's always doing things for the sake of other people
agile star
My boys
Finally caught up
I gotta agree with that though. Gappy and Johnny are brutal
clear fossil
Gappy vs vitamin c
And I was asking could the prez of sbr valentine enter the old universe
agile star
Hmmm
clear fossil
Theres nothing saying he cant
flat vale
No
the conditions require that funny valentine exist almost 99.9% similar to that of SBR
every time he swaps it's never with a radically different version of himself, it's always on par
rocky charm
I think it doesn't need to be 99.9% similar (popular headcanon is that the buff Valentine seen later is a D4C replacement of the dumpy one we see first.) I think it just needs to be a Valentine looking for the Corpse Parts
Alternatively, it's possible he could access any universe, he just chooses to go to ones with similar versions of him.
flat vale
I'm going to use an argument that was used against me the other day, if you never actually see it then it's not possible.
additionally funny valentine would HAVE to exist inside the OG universe or it just wouldn't be possible
rocky charm
We never see DIO take Jonathan's body. Does that mean it's not possible?
flat vale
that's kind of moving the goal posts a little, because by virtue of the fact that we know it's his body in part 3 , it's as good as seeing it happen. Where as with Funny V there so far is nothing to support the notion that he can jump to a universe that's radically different, they even specify that in the dimensions he jumps to there's always a steel ball race.
rocky charm
So the Corpse Parts only exist in the dimension we know, right?
clear fossil
You know what would be finny
rocky charm
Like, there's only one Jesus?
clear fossil
They're can multiple jesuses
flat vale
it is "The dimension d4c gravitates towards"
clear fossil
One per
flat vale
just one jesus
craggy belfry
ok here's my new headcanon for buff valentine
the heart made him fat
when he gets rid of it the fat is gone
rocky charm
So how do the other dimensions know about the Corpse Parts?
craggy belfry
he visits the other dimensions
flat vale
when d4c swaps it gives all memories to the new valentine
"Said Valentine acquires the memory of the previous Valentine and becomes the 'Root Valentine' by virtue of now possessing the Stand, but his consciousness remains different from that of the previous owner."
flat vale
"Furthermore, he can summon any number of alternate selves to a target dimension in order to outnumber his opponents.[5] These Valentines do not have D4C's of their own however, this Stand seemingly being wholly unique to the 'Root World', the single universe where the Corpse resides."
I think fat valentine is just a case of art style change like josuke at the start of part 4 vs at the end
rocky charm
Wait so if any Valentine becomes the root by possessing D4C
Does that mean that D4C is the real user and all of the Valentines are the Stand
🤔
flat vale
I mean there's definitely some debate potential to the exactly how sentient D4C is
jolly mountain
Holy shit Yasuho keep getting assaulted
granite pelican
NANI
kind owlBOT
@granite pelican, Your Gangstar cred is now level 12 !
jolly mountain
Being surrounded by chestnuts looks quite funny
I can't take this manga seriously
Okay, I take it back, it's not funny
jolly mountain
Why is everything always revolving around dicks ?
Oh man, fruits seems to really be a big thing
versed crown
Big dicks are a part of jojolion
granite pelican
like balls
stark fossil
Part 8: Fruitbubble Alchemist
rich depot
Josuke‘s extra balls are just the super-duper powerful Rokakakas
flat vale
interesting game theory
dusky geyser
Josuke's secret Stand [BIG DICK ENERGY]
flat vale
soft and wet requiem [2X2
rich depot
『Paisley Park 』is gonna do 『Doggystyle』to make Josuke 『Soft and Wet』
flat vale
Part 8 is a giant 『Sex Pun』
flat vale
the waking up so horny song should have been the ending song to part 8
summer tree
no it should be September
flat vale
Here's hoping we get a stand named supreme nut
dusky geyser
Ending should be September Ah, I see someone else watches xForts.
flat vale
The villain for part 8 should just be Todd Howard, like the actual Todd Howard from our dimension not like their version of him or anything
Don't worry about my stand 『Sweet Little Lies』 Gappy, it all just works
clear fossil
Sex pun?
versed crown
Fallout 76 will be bought anyway maniacal laugh
rotund haven
Araki: "thicc stands" 
tiny jewel
paisely park mad thicc
flat vale
I don't know about the logistics of a stand being thicc
grizzled pilot
why do you have SIXTY tabs open
peak zealot
To think that we have Stand names like California King Bed or Born This Way made me excited for more modern music Stand names
flat vale
WHY DO YOU HAVE 60 TABS OPEN
flat vale
having more than 5 open is a curse on your family
rocky charm
Having fewer than 10 open is a curse on navigation
What, you think I'm gonna make 50 bookmarks to remind myself of all the things I want to return to?
flat vale
"it's harder to navigate when you have few tabs open" what
rocky charm
No, because creating and deleting bookmarks is effort
flat vale
what 60 pages do you need to have always open though
rocky charm
If I want to keep track of 6 webcomics, 3 youtube series, discord, the amazon shit I wanna buy, etc. and I only have 5 tabs, then I have to constantly reopen all of those pages
flat vale
discord app?
rocky charm
On my computer?
flat vale
it's on phone and computer
also amazon has wishlists
just like as an IT professional it is in my professional opinion that, technical term here, "that shit wack"
clear fossil
flat vale
I can’t wait for someone to put hit or miss over the torture dance
craggy belfry
it will be leagues better than the you reposted in the wrong neighborhood ones, I genuinely don't like that song, which is a shame cause there are some good memes with it
primal mulch
jojolion is actually in my top half of the "favourite to least least favourite jojo parts" 
oy vey
if only there were more jojolion shitposts
always upvote jojo8 memes
it doesn't even have a villian yet what is my life
summer tree
Gappy - 12 fights
Yasuho - 5 fights
Tsurugi - 3 fights
Rai - 2 fights
Jobin - 2 fights
Joshu - 2 fights
Mitsuba - 1 fight
Hato - 1 fight
Norisuke - 1 fight
tiny jewel
All norisukes and gappy have royalty themes
kind owlBOT
@tiny jewel, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !
tiny jewel
So the overall villain will have a royalty theme too
King Crimson confirmed for part 8 villain
white beacon
i think you mean all higashikatas
tiny jewel
Frick
white beacon
i don't expect the main villain to have king crimson since we already have kilelr queen in this part, but i can see the connection
tiny jewel
I was kidding
white beacon
since we can expect the main villain to be the ringleader of the organization
like diavolo
slow cobalt
killer queen was sexier in part 8
white beacon
everyone is sexier in part 8
flat vale
sex is part 8
tiny jewel
Josuke is twice as manly in part 8
rocky charm
0x2=0
flat vale
The math checks out though
minor ore
stabs face with fork
tiny jewel
very nice
minor ore
guys can soft and wet immediately give thhings back like if hhe takes away the friciton can he restore it immediately?
radiant kettle
If he blows the bubble that stole friction in the same place, yes
summer tree
That's just how it seems since it's the first part we're experiencing as it comes out for most of us
It started in 2011
We didn't have to deal with waiting for the next chapter for Parts 1-7
white beacon
he could mean that, or maybe of how the arcs are paced
clear fossil
I mean how the arcs are paced yeah
Nothing really gravitates me to read it, besides the jojo title
And the characters have these gimmicky similarities to older characters like josuke and kira
white beacon
i agree with the pacing but i'm pretty sure that was the whole point regarding the characters
though it's okay to dislike it, some people do
clear fossil
True and probably but theres a lack of connection to the characters. Everytime they say the old character names I always think why not them instead. The pull or connection just isnt there, weird I guess me only
minor ore
it's a little detail but i noticed in the part 4 ed josuke is wearing a checkered sweater similar to the one that josefumi wears. probably just coincidence though
rocky charm
Nah, they reference later parts all the time in the anime
In the ED there's also a sign with Part 8 Morioh's logo (crown on top rather than circle) so it's not out of the question
Also, on the CD for BLOODY STREAM, Joseph's outfit was based off of Jolyne
wintry cloud
JoJo Part 8 anime confirmed?!? xD
rocky charm
In 2026
rotund haven
minor ore
That drip 🔥
flat vale
Phish net
minor ore
Jojolion is my favorite part. I really love rock humans
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 1 !
versed crown
impostor
summer tree
does Jojolion even have a healer?
minor ore
No not really
white beacon
i think gappy somewhat counts in a way if he actually uses s/w
also rai if he can do sewing like stone free
but no, they don;t
white beacon
hmm, true
a lot of the major injuries in jojolion is more or less body horror instead of actual wounds
flat vale
healers are a tactic to make tense moments boring
this post was made by part 7 gang
wait shit part 7 had a healer
rich depot
Johnny should‘ve died in the true man‘s world
Then we‘d have GyGy‘s Bizarre adventure
It‘d be an interesting twist to have the main joko die early on
flat vale
That would have been a wild fucking turn, it's now a story about the zeppelis and not the joestars
clear fossil
Zepplelis are a joke of the series for always being killed
rocky charm
Gyro didn't like women
flat vale
now insert the panel of him fooling around with that woman
white beacon
didn't he have somethign bad happen to him after fooling around with that woman tho
minor ore
Anyone else think Johnny could be the main antagonist of part 8?
rocky charm
I haven't read Part 8, but no
rocky charm
Which would make Johnny 140 years old
white beacon
johnny legit got ceasar'd lol
rich depot
What if the corpse made him a rock human
and he survived
by being a rock
You don't have to be janken kid to know that Rock doesn't beat rock
flat vale
I wouldn't say ceasar'd just because it was only the head
craggy belfry
he shared the same fate as Jonathan only no Dio around this time
grizzled pilot
it just really sucks to be named jonathan joestar in the several jojo universes
flat vale
I mean two out of infinite isn’t really a good window of reference
grizzled pilot
ireneverse, three
clear fossil
@grizzled pilot what?
kind owlBOT
@clear fossil, Your Gangstar cred is now level 9 !
minor ore
Sorry for the late reply but I was thinking along the lines of him being a rock human. I’m current in Jojolion. I’ve been thinking about this a lot since the “good fortune” line by Uu Tomoki (who is one of my favorite minor antagonist by far) I don’t know what his motive would be but thematically it would be interesting. A JoJo that goes from 1 to 0 fighting one the goes from 0 to 1. Plus I really want to see a car chase with rock Johnny on a rock horse.
Also in my opinion everything since Urban Guerilla has been great
grizzled pilot
hi
clear fossil
Wtf is that
grizzled pilot
the universe from the end of SO
craggy belfry
based Gappy poster
white beacon
i mean, ireneverse is still technically the original so we still know of only two universes with jonathan joestar
or like, 3 or 4 if the other johnnys that valentine saw as he tried to escape the infinite rotation were also named jonathan
minor ore
It was more of a “oh this is cool”. I don’t think it’ll actually happen. Also rock humans love long lives. We don’t know what makes somebody a rock human either. I wouldn’t say it’s the most wild theory out there. It’s just fun to think about.
kind owlBOT
@minor ore, Your Gangstar cred is now level 2 !
white beacon
oh
i kinda get what your saying now i guess
but the chances of johnny coming back as a rock human seem kinda low, in my thinking
rotund haven
minor ore
Yeah. I do think for sure that his corpse will be important. He is directly tied to shakedown road (I can never remember the actual stand name) and this new doctor Uu Tomoki makes me think that they know something about the corpses abilities. How Johnny’s body became sanctified I don’t know.
Man Jojolion colored is a treat
grizzled pilot
i... still don't get what i'm being accused of
white beacon
misunderstanding
minor ore
@grizzled pilot I don’t think anything, I think they didn’t know what you meant
white beacon
french was referring to hodd about the "wtf u on about"
while he simply asked you what irenverse is
grizzled pilot
ah, okay
clear fossil
Yeahh exactly and thanks
granite pelican
josefumi best jojo
flat vale
Hol horse best jojo
white beacon
jojolion has 4 jojos and honestly, that's kinda cool to think about
white beacon
there's norisuke(born Josuke), there's Josuke, there's Josefumi Kujo, and there's Johnny Joestar though he's in a far-off flashback
summer tree
Ah, okay
grizzled pilot
eyes of heaven has like eleven, beat that jojo lion
rich depot
What about Kira?
white beacon
Kira is Kira
rich depot
He‘s literally Holly Joestar‘s son tho
grizzled pilot
not a jojo
white beacon
point is?
grizzled pilot
holly isn't a jojo either
white beacon
i'm talking about people whose names can be "Jo Jo"
not talking about who's a joestar or not
astral solstice
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH HOW TF CAN THERE BE ANOTHER JOSUKE WHOS KIRAS FRIEND AND ANOTHER HOLLY WHOS SON IS KIRA INSTEAD OF JOTARO AND WHERE TF IS JOSUKES BADASS HAIR AND CRAZY DIAMOND, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ID RATHER GO LEARN WHAT KING CRIMSON DOES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AND WHO TF IS NORISUKE WHO EVERYONE CALLS ANOTHER JOSUKE IF THERES ALREADY LIKE 2 JOSUKES
astral solstice
🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐
white beacon
@astral solstice do not meme like that ever again without any reason to, it's a nuisance
old marlin
laying the law down
i never noticed but Vitamin C has the same effect of Soft Machine
old marlin
on humans its way more of a delate effect than a softening effect
old marlin
quality
rotund haven
WRYYYYYYYEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
radiant kettle
Interesting thing
white beacon
i never read jjl colours BUT DAMN VITC'S GLOWING HANDS IS AMAZING
radiant kettle
Josefumi gets to be a JoJo because Joseph and Kujo, okay.
Now
Why does he have a star shaped birthmark like a Joestar?
DID JOHNNY HAVE ANOTHER KID?
IS IT NICHOLAS?
white beacon
uhhh, johnny's descendants have multiple kids lol
radiant kettle
Joseph in that universe fooled with a Japanese woman too?
white beacon
read back the family tree portion
radiant kettle
I remember that the main tree is Kira
Kyo and Yoshikage
Although Kyo might not even be her real name
white beacon
couldn't get the actual family tree image but this one's just as accurate in the joestar side of things
georgeII had a sibling, he also has multiple kids including joseph
so josefumi being a joestar isn't as wild as you'd think
radiant kettle
Yeah, I guess not
kind owlBOT
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radiant kettle
Although Joseph only had Holly
And if Joseph is the firstborn
He died with the rock disease
I don't think that's the case, however
The oldest always comes on the left. At least it's what it seems by that tree
That being the case
That might be the reason why we didn't see George's sister
radiant kettle
Can't be just firstborn son
Rina had it
That's why Norisuke had two navels
If that becomes a plot point I swear to God...
white beacon
two navels, four balls
radiant kettle
And it is a plot point
How could I have ever been so blind?
Norisuke the first did a equivalent exchange
That's why he made it to the SBR
supple plaza
So I was reading TVtropes
And wow, it just raised some very....interesting question with just one single line under Kaato's character page
"Her eyes are split down the middle just like Josuke's. However, her eyes have a zigzag pattern going down the middle instead of a single line."
white beacon
i-i don't see it
supple plaza
Look above the pupil of the right eye
white beacon
pretty sure that's just shading, or the screentone
supple plaza
Maybe, it could just be an error of the one who edited the wiki and added that part in
But you have to remember Araki gave her an entire panel close-up to her face
Just like he did with Gappy to accentuate his divided, strange eyes.
So, just something to keep in mind
white beacon
i guess
but in the case that it is true, and that this could imply that this was a result of fusion
it doesn't really make sense..? since josefumi and kira were the ones who created the fusion rokakaka
minor ore
If Kaato is a fusion Jesus Christ am I hyped
supple plaza
I guess so, buuuut
It could just be that the New Rokakaka doesn't actually fuse people
It's implied the Wall Eyes do, after all
Iiiit's complicated
Because while the New Rokakaka does allow you to use equivalent exchange with other people
The Wall Eyes and the ground around them are implied to be the one doing the fusion
white beacon
i hate this and i want jjl to end now with answers so at least we can only theorize the other plotholes and not expect them to be filled
supple plaza
I have faith in Araki, I think there's some big mysteries that he will solve in some form before JJL ends
- Who the main villain is (obviously)
- What the Rock Humans are and want. (For now we only know they're pretty much scammers and silicon-based lifeforms)
- What the wall-eyes are
- What the Rock Curse/Disease is
white beacon
rock humans are weird
like, some of them have weird abilities that aren't even stand abilities
like yotsuyu's(or was it aishou's?) plastic wrap dispensing eyes
minor ore
- Does Uu Tomoki ever fail?
supple plaza
(I think that's gonna be revealed very soon lmao)
Also I'm pretty sure it was Aishou, I don't remember Yotsuyu having that ability
Yotsuyu had the ability to turn parts of his body to rock IIRC
Which....make sense
Oh, nope
It was Yotsuyu that had the plastic wrap stuff
I just checked on the wiki
Also there's the whole deal with Rock Animals which are confirmed to be a thing
And there's two of them. Doremi and the random hairclip that tries to make Yasuho kill herself
Also, unrelated, but when was the last time Josuke's bubbles actually stole something?
white beacon
I don't know actually
Most of the time josuke just takes a backseat and simply store things inside
supple plaza
I'm asking someone on another server and they said it was during Ozone baby
But I don't remember that at all
minor ore
Isn't Tsurugi's dog also a Rock Animal?
rotund haven
way more effort than a david pro ed
summer tree
AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL
flat vale
rock animals be boolin
craggy belfry
Is Caato the best jojo milf?
flat vale
Who sings the hit or miss song to who go
flat vale
I want a jojo character who creates an artificial stand
white beacon
So...Baby Face?
flat vale
no I mean more like, a bit of a niche pull here, Ace from the third megaman starforce game where he was the only person who could transform with an artificial being
spring cypress
This manga is pretty fuckin weird
clear fossil
He never called anyone else jojo did he, dio
pure pollen
im on part 7 but i just wanted to know if araki was done with part 8 yet?
grizzled pilot
not even close
pure pollen
how many volumes are there?
pure pollen
do u think it will be the biggest part
kind owlBOT
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grizzled pilot
maybe
pure pollen
how would u rate it 1-10 so far
grizzled pilot
opinions are divided but i'd say 7 or 8, probably higher once it's complete
it has me very interested but it needs a good resolution if it's gonna end up any good in the end
i think it will, though
rocky charm
I think it would be hilarious if one month Araki just suddenly moved on to the next Jojo
flat vale
I think there’s a lot of assumption with direction and loose ends that we as the reader are misinterpreting and will probably make more sense once part 8 becomes a finished project
Like even still when you ask most people what part 8 is about the answer is still “I don’t know”
rocky charm
2x2 balls
flat vale
I mean if someone said the plot for 8 is “save holly” I can’t really disagree
rocky charm
The plot for Part 8 is for Josuke to absorb the balls of every man in Morioh
grizzled pilot
save holly (but it's weirder this time)
rocky charm
He'll steal them with Soft and Wet
grizzled pilot
ball bubbles
rotund haven
It's not the readers fault that jojolion is a mess
flat vale
Save holly XXX edition
minor ore
Jojolion being a mess is such a meme
Everyone is going to be biased towards the parts they got to watch/read in comfy zip folders fully colored with a manga reader.
Jojolion is not finished. You don’t know that there’s an ending in sight so it’s all perceived as a mess.
radiant kettle
We're living in a timeline where we know about JoJo and are able to read it online
This is our first part that we are seeing being made as time passes, so it does look like a mess so far since there's no end at sight
Compared to the past ones, by chapter 80 we already know what the main antagonist is
What or who
summer tree
I mean I guess one way to describe Part 8 is
"Amnesiac gets caught up in a black market fruit scheme created by rock people."
summer tree
that hasn't been plot relevant yet aside from fusion
radiant kettle
I don't know why Josuke is lying to himself
He's Yoshikage Kira
Josefumi fed Kira the rokakaka
And gave his body, in exchange
Stand and main body, josefumi
But he's mainly Kira
rotund haven
To be fair, one has more personality than the other
Learning about Josefumi and Kira is cool but I wish they got some characterization before getting oofed into one guy
flat vale
I mean from a true technical point of view, he has the body of Josefumi as the body they found was recognizable as Kira by police
wheat jackal
someone wanna explain how they fused and why they fused
rocky charm
Wall Eye bullshit
wheat jackal
i’m gonna punch the wall eye if it doesn’t start coming clean
first it creates stands now it’s doing more weird shit
flat vale
you gotta read
wait sorry I don't think I emphasized that quite enough
YOU GOTTA READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rocky charm
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYD THE MANGA
wheat jackal
i’ll still read
but it’s gonna take so damn long to get there cause i don’t have a manga shop nearby
rocky charm
Yeah, just pirate it
Unless you live in Italy there's no legal way to read it in your language
Or Japan
But if you were Japanese you'd probably be caught up
minor ore
from september to now, starting all the way from phantom blood, i can say with great pride "I'm caught up on jojo"
granite pelican
nice
rotund haven
flat vale
damn he thicc
minor ore
rocky charm
2x2 balls'
minor ore
literally same
would you say josefumi kujo is alt universe jousuke or jotaro? because he looks like josuke but he's also a kujo 
grizzled pilot
he's the alternate josuke cause he's the man with the pomp in the blizzard
rich depot
At this point I really don't care who's alternate who
Especially since araki made it a weird complicated web rather than 1 to 1 alternates
flat vale
truth be told the whole "blank is alternate" is very irrelevant
when part 9 rolls around and is the "universe fusion part" feel free to say I told you so
minor ore
is the alt topic that tired and overdone? didn't know, my bad 
flat vale
The main reason I say it's irrelevant is because josefumi doesn't have the same base parents as neither Jotaro or Josuke so it can't really be the alternate version, if memory serves Johnny is the only one with the same parents as his base JoJo
stark fossil
Who the hecc is Josefumi's mum
flat vale
that bitch who tried to kill him in the ocean
minor ore
yeah, i was wondering why she's just standing there not really giving a shit
storm ivy
didn't she just panic?
kind owlBOT
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craggy belfry
where did the universe fusion theory come from
I hear people talk about it all the time but I don't get where it came from or why people thought of it
flat vale
The eyes of heaven video game mainly
it's written as if the jojo parts were to truly collide and even has it's own special version of DIO that controls all universes
also I think people tend to agree that the jump from 6 to 7 is far more cut off and radical than any other part which makes it suspect to something grander
although there is obvious reason for the major cut
summer tree
I fail to believe Araki just dropped the old universe because he "ran out of ideas" for it
because literally
there are so many things Araki had a chance to follow up on and just didn't
I want to believe that the SBRverse and Ireneverse are connected
otherwise Parts 7 and onwards just feel
out of place
stark wagon
I feel like he just wanted to start over
like the beginning of SBR isn't even jojo but later it's still really different
maybe he'll connect the both universes later but I really doubt he planned it from the start of SBR
versed crown
Maybe the creator burnout from shonen jump
magic cypress
yea jump's schedule is so fucked up it drives most mangaka crazy
minor ore
valentine's words on the universes is pretty interesting. he says the universe with the corpse parts is the base one, that all the others revolve around. if araki decides to make something with that then that'll be what it'll be, but part 8's course is on a pretty set path now with the rock humans and rokakaka that i'm not sure it'll be brought back for now at least
flat vale
I mean once again some emphasis on this, it's the primary universe of all the universes that D4C can reach. Like unless i'm mistaken D4C can't travel to every existing dimension just a relatively infinite amount.
fierce night
im sure it is
kind owlBOT
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flat vale
why does he do that thing when he eats, not just with those weird ass gushers but he do it with the parfait too
white beacon
What thing
flat vale
where it just shoots out, like the gushers it makes sense but with the parfait not so much
rotund haven
He chews with his mouth open and the gap spews juice
white beacon
Also, id like to remind the topic above that araki has stated in the interview for ASB that only in the games can both josukes fight, because he made the SBR-verse with the intention of it being separated from the original universe completely, that they aren't connected by space and time and never will collide
Sure EOH exists but he didn't make that, bottomline is that Araki's statement implies that he has no plans on fusing the sbrverse and the original universe
flat vale
I mean i'm definitely more warm to the idea of "This be new shit, that old shit long gone don't think about it" than trying to drag the previous universe into the cycle
MU AU KOMBI !!
summer tree
Gappy SO MANY ISSUES
flat vale
gappy, truly a mutt amongst Joestars
white beacon
Gappy doesn't have a dad....and even his fusion components, kira and josephmi, have missing dads
minor ore
that's twice the missing dads 👀
white beacon
Yeah but at least original josuke actually got to meet him
And giorno makes sense cuz well, it's dio
wheat jackal
giogio and his daddy issues
kind owlBOT
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flat vale
It’s been like 9 hours and I’m still thinkin about the torture dance
minor ore
same
also this just popped in my head but isn't it ironic how sheer heart attack was used to clear a blood clot?
okay brushing up on my facts, josefumi's clot was in his brain. oof
minor ore
Excuse me Kira, what is this?
I get it now, the photos are of someone else
It was all the plan of the neighbour
minor ore
They looked strange anyway
flat vale
Damn he thicc
stark wagon
I finally caught up 
just in time to see araki abort a baby holy shit that was dark
now time for the long wait of a day for the new chapter
stark wagon
eh dw it's not really a spoiler
dusky geyser
That chapter had me shook.
stark wagon
i'm conflicted with jojolion
it was so good up to vitamin c
after that it's.. still good but all over the place
maybe new chapters will tie all of those loose ends
dusky geyser
Even when you're fully caught up, it's still confusing to understand.
Steps to reading part 8:
- What am I reading?
- Okay, I kinda get what's going on.
- Now I know what's going on.
- What the hell is even happening!?
- Now I'm completely lost, but screw it, that's how the series works.
elfin mist
- return to step 1
flat vale
never shall we understand part 8
minor ore
i wonder if we already have our big bad yet. Like Jobin is pretty sketchy but I'm assuming he's just really underhanded in his ways to save Tsurugi
someone behind the scenes seems to really want to create rock babies among other stuff so 🤷
stark wagon
We would need some solid development for Jobin if he was to become a villain imo
same for kaato
ebon burrow
Has the new chapter dropped yet?
fierce night
not yet
lament geyser
Since we've got freak n'you as the outro of part 5, for some reason i thought there would be a chance that september by earth wind and fire would be the outro of the anime of jojolion
kind owlBOT
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lament geyser
Or maybe not
flat vale
I mean if part 5 has taught us anything so far, don't try to predict the outro as you probably won't be right. I can't remember anyone saying "Hey I bet it'll be Freak'n you"
minor ore
I saw a fanmade ending for Jojolion that used September. It would be cool if the real anime will use that song as well
But yeah, the chances aren't too big
minor ore
Imagine getting fucked by fucking flex tape
fervent yoke
minor ore
Nice
minor ore
What did you all think of the chapter?
stark wagon
pretty good
more competition for yasuho 
I can't help but wonder why doctor wu wouldn't just learn how to be an actual doctor instead of using the rokakaka
shit is useless dude
but it's nice to learn his motivations
and why he thinks what he's doing is good
fervent yoke
I really liked the new chapter
it feels like we're progressing in the story more than we have for the last few chapters
minor ore
Wu is the stand
fervent yoke
and yeah I agree it's good to finally know more about that doctor guy
minor ore
The Doctor is Doctor
stark wagon
isn't his name Wu Tomoki
fervent yoke
I think he's got the same name as his stand
fervent yoke
hmmm
I'm not sure if I like him
he's giving me bad vibes so far
but he could be one of the good guys for all I know
minor ore
I think that him and Uu were in the ambulance. Who knows for sure though.
craggy trellis
summer tree
OH SHIT IT'S OUT
outer palm
white beacon
Just read the chap and I gotta say
I love how they finished off Uwu
Looks pretty comical despite the situation
And I firmly believe Tooru is a good guy and will become an ally, because he doesn't know who josuke is, and if he was in cahoots with uwu and rock people then he'd know who josuke is
fierce night
operation un-abort baby
yeah, i expected tooru to tell him yasuho was somewhere else
white beacon
Tooru looks like a good boi
Also about uwu's stand
I guess it makes sense that he refers it as simply an ability and not by it's stand name or calling it a stand, since he and his stand have the same name
So like, he's like weather report in this specific aspect
fierce night
can uwu break down other objects as well?
maybe thats what happened to the wheelchair
white beacon
The wheelchair is weird, cuz like, it just folds
But I think he can, since he broke the fetus arms but they still be moving
fierce night
yeah
found this on the reddit thread
yagiyama said that same sentence 4 years ago
araki remembered
white beacon
Ohhhhhhh
Maybe that's why yotsuyu was the example rockman in the cover infodump
Also uwu's explanation pretty much confirms another moral/ethical challenge akin to SBR
Self vs Society
Since from what I can gather from what uwu said, they've been doing rokakaka treatments for a long time, just that no one talks about it, primarily from memory loss, so they don't actually get found out
And they are doing a service to society
fierce night
yep
also i really liked how araki made uwu (and the rest of the rock human doctors) more neutral
as they view themselves as the good guys
white beacon
They aren't exactly doing stuff that one would easily say a villain would do, to them, they're just living a life
storm ivy
which chapter is the latest color?
I only had colored chapters up to volume 12
so around the liver cutter fight
minor ore
I like how we're calling him uwu
fierce night
not sure which one exactly
storm ivy
but the latest one is 81
storm ivy
are we talking about the same part?
fierce night
i hope so
minor ore
part 8 jojolion?
storm ivy
I'm talking about that
fierce night
i opened the jojos colored adventure website
minor ore
from the manga series jojo's bizarre adventure?
storm ivy
what
fierce night
have you read the part?
so i can 'spoil' it
i know which chapter is it from memory
but not sure if youre there yet
fierce night
oh k
minor ore
CHAPTER 81 WAS SO GOOD
queen elm
fervent yoke
Aight sorry wolf
queen elm
Thank
elfin mist
question bout today's chapter that is probably me just being dumb-
was uu killed? i couldn't exactly tell
elfin mist
yea aight
that's what i thought
just couldn't tell if he died from the throw/heard others say he died
minor ore
nah, I don't think we would've died from that
but I guess we'll have to wait until next month to see
summer tree
WHY IS ARAKI STILL INTRODUCING NEW CHARACTERS
flat vale
someone who can video edit put 'hip to be square' over the torture dance
patent valve
Hey i have a question, in terms of plans, was jojo part 8 publicly announced to be a thing for a while, or was it announced during or after part 7