jobin is best boy
#jojolion
knotty sigil
flat vale
Implying Holly isn't leader of the rock humans
flat vale
I mean holly is basically dio at this point, it can't be more obvious who the main villain is
minor ore
Tsurugi and Joshu are the worst
rich depot
Holly indirectly got Josefumi sorta killed
dusky geyser
Imagine if Kaato has an ability related to D4C?
knotty sigil
imagine if she's descended from valentine
rich depot
Her real name is funniest valentine
flat vale
wait isn't that a real person in here
dusky geyser
I mean the Valentine never said anything about a child.
flat vale
we're really putting real life people into jojo now, god damn araki you've done it again
knotty sigil
remember that one time van gogh was involved in a stand battle
also yeah it's def possible for scarlet to have had a kid
flat vale
diogenes was a stand user that's why he did the shit he did
knotty sigil
or maybe even some other random girl if not her
dusky geyser
It would leave a plot hole of the Valentines never mentioning their offspring.
knotty sigil
well that's something araki has done before
rich depot
Technically Jesus is Lucy's kid
knotty sigil
giorno and the other sons
rich depot
Or at least some of him
flat vale
fuck it would have been really clever if Johnny's death was the result of some damage inflicted onto ticket to ride
because I remember that ticket to ride caused some people to die in future accidents that hadn't happened yet
flat vale
if I remember correctly, they shoot it at one point and it causes people to get shot in Vietnam, when the conflict hadn't happened yet
knotty sigil
oh fuck I must've hard missed that
dusky geyser
The effect is more so imitate.
flat vale
had to find it @knotty sigil
knotty sigil
holy shit you were right
knotty sigil
then yeah it definitely would have been possible that he damaged his future self
old marlin
Oh ok
Ah my b
I kinda panicked for a sec there i didnt want spoilers lol
Oh im dumb lol
knotty sigil
nah you're good that's just johnny shooting some vietnam soldier
flat vale
I mean if this was the SBR chat or below it's spoilers
knotty sigil
huh
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old marlin
I didnt mean it was lol
knotty sigil
if you post that in sbr chat it's a spoiler?
flat vale
I would think maybe I don't actually know?
knotty sigil
I just kinda assume you're allowed to talk spoilers for each part and the ones before it
cause it's a discussion channel of said part
like when chapter 80 of JJL comes out where else are we gonna talk about it
flat vale
I always thought it was kind of somewhere you went as you read or watched along for lower parts, like JJL is kind of different because the information doesn't exist at all until it comes out
knotty sigil
I usually see any sort of discussion based chat as one that can talk spoilers
it helps me avoid spoilers
I was pretty damn mad that I got some deaths spoiled for me for parts 5 and 6 so before finishing SBR I legit avoided any chat/comment section/discussion place about jojo in general just so I could remain spoiler free
it actually worked too which I'm still very happy about
didn't care as much for JJL but still kinda did it
flat vale
I mean I knew what the The World did about four/five years before I ever even considered reading/watching
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knotty sigil
I had no idea and was too stupid to guess it before it was revealed lol
flat vale
I definitely wouldn't say all of part 3 was ruined for me because of it but, there is quite a bit of story telling in part 3 that revolves around his stand being a mystery
knotty sigil
I liked how you dont realize how silly the dio and polnareff stairs scene was until after you learn his power
then you think about it and realize
this man literally stopped time and carried a grown man down some stairs
flat vale
I mean in 3rd party point of view yeah it would look goofy, but in first person that shit would be like silent hills PT hallway
remember if no one can see you stop time, nobody can see you being a big dumb idiot
old marlin
Too invite myself in, i like Yasuhoe the most
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old marlin
She’s cool
flat vale
Aesthetically or full character wise
old marlin
Character wise
flat vale
I mean either plant appraiser or grandpa Higashikata
knotty sigil
I hope she is the one to finish off tomoki
ah yes the other josuke
mamezuku is a bro
flat vale
grandpa Higashikata has extremely strong conviction, and plant appraiser just in general is very interesting all over especially with his wild ass living style
"I live on a ski lift and basically play the floor is lava every day"
Mamezuku is the floor is lava champion
knotty sigil
I felt bad when part of it got destroyed
stupid ass burrowing rock animal
I mentioned this briefly earlier but my favorite is definitely Jobin
the whole every day is a summer vacation thing really sold him to me at the start
minor ore
what're the weakest to strongest joestar stands from parts 1-8
knotty sigil
tusk act 1 is the weakest
flat vale
If we go into aesthetics Daiya is definitely my shit especially in the pastel color swap that exists.
knotty sigil
hell yea daiya looks good af
@minor ore here's quick ranking by me from weakest to strongest: tusk act 1, hermit purple, tusk act 2, stone free, tusk act 3, soft and wet, gold experience, crazy diamond, star platinum, tusk act 4, gold experience requiem
flat vale
Luck and Pluck the original stand
old marlin
Hermit Purple, Act 1 Tusk, Tusk Act 2, Stone Free, Golden Experience, Crazy Diamond, Soft and Wet, Tusk Act 2, Star Platinum, Tusk Act 4, GER @minor ore
knotty sigil
when I first saw Jobin I immediately knew he'd be my favorite based on his design
old marlin
I forgot SW damnit
minor ore
I see
knotty sigil
it's ok I forgot hermit purple originally
minor ore
Tusk Act 4 is definitely the strongest without GER
old marlin
Mhmm
flat vale
One of my only reasons why i'm almost positive he's not the main villain is because his stand (at the moment) is definitely not "Main villain material"
old marlin
Technically he is the strongest if the arrows werent a factor
knotty sigil
yeah for sure, I feel there's really no argument for those two's placements
knotty sigil
@flat vale keep in mind there's a part of his ability that he has been keeping secret
old marlin
Goes to show how strong Johnny’s will was
knotty sigil
that is 100% going to be coming up pretty soon
knotty sigil
Dr. DoCToR lmao
flat vale
See I wouldn't be surprised if that hidden power isn't used against josuke but to save him though
old marlin
He hasnt used it in a long time
minor ore
act 4 is just balanced by the fact he needs a horse
knotty sigil
nah I think this hospital arc belongs to yasuho
old marlin
He doesnt
knotty sigil
she's gotta be the finisher
minor ore
how tho
old marlin
Did you not read the manga
knotty sigil
I thought he does need a horse?
minor ore
i was tired when i was reading it
old marlin
When Johnny spinned in the air and used it
old marlin
Yes
flat vale
it needs energy/rhythm equivalent to a horse
knotty sigil
he threw a steel ball at Slow Dancer in the golden rotation
minor ore
soo
knotty sigil
got kicked in the air in the golden rotation
minor ore
he still kinda needs a horse
knotty sigil
and was able to use it
old marlin
He technically doesnt
knotty sigil
yeah that's still requiring a horse
flat vale
maybe a motorcycle could do it
old marlin
He only used the horse’s kick because he didnt have legs
knotty sigil
I suppose a different animal could do it?
old marlin
He had to use the horse to start spinning
knotty sigil
@flat vale can't be anything manmade
old marlin
Johnny had the strongest natural made stand tho
We all know that right
Born this way is a motorcycle stand lol
old marlin
That part of the last lesson in SBR was the best part for me
Made the low points better for me even tho SBR is one of my lesser liked parts
flat vale
back on the Jobin thing, I am convinced that there's an unwritten rule that a Higashikata will not be the main villain because it would be like a Zeppelli being the main villain
knotty sigil
then it couldn't be Kaato either
pretty sure that's the most popular theory, that it's gonna be her
flat vale
well she's divorced isn't she?
knotty sigil
I dont believe in that rule though, I can still see him being the main villain or one of the final enemies of Josuke
and yeah she is
I haven't seen a different last name used for her besides higashikata though
I dont believe a character labelled "rival" has been the main villain of a part yet, so who knows maybe it could happen 🤔
flat vale
you can retain a last name upon divorce I believe
knotty sigil
makes sense
minor ore
which is more useful? moody blues or king nothing
old marlin
Kaato is as much of a higashikata as Mistiba is
knotty sigil
moody blues 100%
knotty sigil
moody blues is entirely the reason why bucciarati's gang uncovered diavolo's identity
king nothing just tracks some smells
knotty sigil
im not sure
been a while since I've seen KN
I wish abbacchio was involved in more fights
soft machine, man in the mirror, then nothing until getting donuted
I would say same for Narancia but his 2 fights were both long and solo
definitely same for fugo and trish though
minor ore
must have been hard to come up with fights for them
old marlin
If you think about Mista Giorno Bruno and Trish were the only ones who were able to get good fights in
knotty sigil
I'd say everyone got at least one hella good fight in, because I loved man in the mirror
and Narancia is the only character who won a complete 2v1
old marlin
Bruno got shafted somewhat
minor ore
I gotta say, I enjoy Norisuke explaining his shop to Josuke lol
old marlin
But he had good fights
minor ore
now I want parfait
knotty sigil
I wanted one too after reading that chapter
my favorite bruno moment was during the grateful dead arc when he zipped apart his body completely including his heart just to be undetected by pesci
easy top 10 character after that
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minor ore
grateful dead was an amazing fight
more like beach boy fight heh
Jobin looks like a villain
knotty sigil
fuck yeah that fight was incredible
it's my second fav in part 5, first being green day and oasis
Jobin is kinda like an anti-villain
I feel that's a good way to describe him
minor ore
so like valentine? i think valentine qualifies as an anti-villain
knotty sigil
it's a lot harder for me to label valentine as an anti-villain because he was the main antagonist
but if you label him as such, then yes he is like valentine in that regard
knotty sigil
that's lowkey one of my favorite arcs in part 8
pastel kestrel
hes great
knotty sigil
I Am A Bus
minor ore
that got me good
knotty sigil
I hate it when that happens to me
minor ore
one moment you're talking to someone then it turns out that that someone is a bus
oh daamn josefumi kujo
karera seems to be this universe's yukako?
knotty sigil
im sorry how many chapters have you read tonight?
minor ore
44 apparently
knotty sigil
I guess I just prefer to take my time
minor ore
I can't take my time like this when I wanna know what happens next lol
it's different from earlier parts
rotund haven
Gappys name is josuke higashikata
He's a fusion of two characters prior, a past villain and protag
And he's on a mission to get the rokakaka to save his mother
That's josuke, giorno, and jolyne right there
Holy fuck
minor ore
colored won't ever catch up until it finishes, right?
white beacon
yep
white beacon
i'd say it's more of a mix of horror and mystery
though not the traditional ghosts and spooks kinda horror, more like, a creepy vibe
where you can trust no one but the closest person you have
rich depot
I swear if female koichi is the villain I'm gonna rage
rocky charm
Plot twist: Yasuho is the end villain of Part 8
rich depot
minor ore
yea, don't let your guards down
wow, at chapter 56 of SBR, 9 parts of the corpse had already been found, but in JoJolion it feels like the plot's only just kicking into gear?
no, scratch that, I don't think it is yet
white beacon
i mean, for all we know josuke could do a whole 180 and he's the actual antagonist
he has the bloodlust of one
minor ore
I mean, half of him was a villain in a different universe lol
white beacon
yeha but that fact doesn't really matter since that half is a good guy here
summer tree
...
minor ore
he made statues of them
white beacon
yeah, his room has a big replica of his own hand
summer tree
I wonder if Part 1 Jonathan had a bug bite fetish...
white beacon
also has a mona lisa
summer tree
🤔
minor ore
I had to stop at ch 61, all these stone men kinda tired me out.
they were just villains of the week, I feel
summer tree
...
white beacon
i mean, isn't that what most of the battles are?
minor ore
gonna read the rest tomorrow
summer tree
When has it not felt like villains of the week in Jojo?
minor ore
yea, but part 7 did it so well
white beacon
but most of them actualyl contribute to the plot
okay they don't "progress" the plot much, but they add more info about it, more context
most of the time
summer tree
Friend on another server is tired of seeing rock people
And I'm kind of confused by why they said that
Because the only antagonists we have are the rock people
Other than weird scenarios like Milagro Man
white beacon
i'd get why they'd be tired of them, but too bad josuke doesn't have anyone else to fight
unless, it's like, joshu or jobin
summer tree
But like I'm wondering if it even matters
Because them being a rock person is just a side detail sometimes
Sometimes the focus is just
minor ore
plus the fights are a bit lacking
summer tree
THEIR stand
minor ore
the focus seems to be mainly on remote-controlled/long ranged stands
everyone's just running around constantly
white beacon
i like it that way tbh, less of a fight and more of an escape
summer tree
Honestly my favorite rock person stand so far is a short ranged one lol
minor ore
I just like the standoff nature of fights in part 7
summer tree
you know which one I'm talking about
minor ore
Vitamin C was great
summer tree
Vitamin C is 
minor ore
but mainly because we got that flashback
summer tree
Also Milagro Man is one of the best arcs in Part 8 and it's not even a rock people arc
minor ore
true
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minor ore
and it features the character i dislike the most
summer tree
JOSHU IS HIGH QUALITY BOI
jk
I understand why people hate Joshu but I love the dude because he's an idiot
And when he's actually smart
It's really good
minor ore
not only that but he lured Yasuho into a public restroom that one time
summer tree
But that's because he was an idiot
And actually thought Yasuho wanted to do stuff with him
minor ore
Yasuho actually called him Josuke and he was like "right... Joshuke... hehehehe "
minor ore
well, she wears contacts
he could've just put two and two together and assumed she lost them
hence why she couldn't recognize him
but anyway yea
he's generally an idiot and a creep towards yasuho
slow cobalt
why are so many higashikatas jojo
like a lot have jo in thier name
did araki ever explain why its called jojolion
cus im thinking that may be why
white beacon
there's like, only three higashikatas that are jojo
and all three of them are josuke
but different kanji/characters
minor ore
norisuke
slow cobalt
jobin
minor ore
was one
slow cobalt
joshu
white beacon
jobin is just jobin
slow cobalt
but they all have the last name higashikata
white beacon
it's fine, lots of people think that
since it's the usual sort of thing
though they did explain this during part 4's josuke
minor ore
black and white is almost unreadable for me lol
i've been spoiled by the colored version
even tho i read a lot of manga
slow cobalt
i mean SBR was the only one i had to read in colour
cus it was so much more chaotic than some of the others
minor ore
I jumped from the anime to part 5 colored onwards
slow cobalt
i remember 10 chapters in going nope
minor ore
colored is too nice to pass up
mint pivot
i can just imagine yashuo telling her mom of a date with gappy
mint pivot
"Mom I'm going out on a date"
"With whom?"
"This random naked amnesiac i found half buried in the ground with four testicles"
ebon pulsar
mitsuba is jobin's wife, right?
mint pivot
yee
mint pivot
itll probs be like
King Bullshit or something like that
mint pivot
we dont know that kaato's stand is called either
mint pivot
xd
white beacon
nah i doubt mitsuba's stand is a King stand, since she isn't of higashikata blood
but maybe
ebon pulsar
i mean if that is the case then kaato aint higashikata either
mint pivot
yeah
ebon pulsar
so i wonder what their stand names will be
mint pivot
maybe they will be like card themed
minor ore
do yasuho and gappy even stay together for more than 2 pages
mint pivot
araki sure as hell doesnt
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ebon pulsar
LETS LOOK FOR SONGS NAMES WITH CARDS IN IT
white beacon
if araki's gonna use a card-themes, wouldn't he have already done it with hato and daiya? cuz their names are Heart and Diamond
oh wait, hato's is Walking Heart, so it's both themes
ebon pulsar
for some reasons i think her stand will contain "diamond" in it
ebon pulsar
i meant kaato's stand
mint pivot
no iwas talikng about what jan said
ebon pulsar
oh
white beacon
yeah, that's what i mean, if araki was gonna use Diamond, Club, Spade, and Heart, he'd have done it with daiya too
ebon pulsar
i mean he uses band names, song names and album names
and as for daiya and hato
they are higashikata so he went with names with king in them
limpid veldt
I love how Norisuke’s reall name is “Josuke”
Its the little things.....that will be forgotten
minor ore
tbf, is that even relevant
white beacon
probably
it's relevant to him cuz his newly adopted son has the same name(phonetically) as him
is that why seems to play favourites with josuke?
white beacon
and jobin's and hato can handle themselves
there's daiya but she likes josuke so that's fine
minor ore
and daiya is still super close with norisuke too
minor ore
"don't get yasuho involved with our family's business, just use her when convenient"
This is so creepy, but I see what you did there
minor ore
they're Jos but not all are JoJos?
mint pivot
i guess
white beacon
yes, not all are jojos
minor ore
what's wrong with it?
white beacon
it doesn't have a weakness if it isn't capable of fights in the first place
taps head
minor ore
flat vale
Can't lose a fight if you never fight
summer tree
Well most of the fight is just
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summer tree
Something gorey
Running
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Running
Something gorey
Running
And like the stand is inconsistent
And most of all Gappy becomes out of character because of a baby
But if you pay attention
He doesn't give a damn about anybody he doesn't know
I mean he let the baseball kid get hurt multiple times at the start
But the baby?
Apparently that changes his tune
minor ore
oh about the baby i thought it was just because he lost hope because "this stand has no weakness"
minor ore
what's the inconsistency?
about letting the kid get hurt was because he was reluctant to touch him, i think
since that's how stand abilities usually get transmitted
summer tree
No it's the shoe
At the start of the arc Gappy is touched on the shoe and Blue Hawaii doesn't work
But the baby touches Gappy on the shoe in this chapter and he just..turns
supple plaza
By the way, JoJolion has 7been going on for over 7 fucking years
And we still don't understand half of the plot
What're the Rokakaka fruit? What're the Wall Eyes? What are the Rock Humans? What is the Rock Disease? Who the fuck is the main antagonist?
Though I'm starting to think it's either Joubin or Kaato
Or, potentially, both at the same time
They are mother and son after all
limpid veldt
So when will the next chapter of magical fruit abortions drop?
supple plaza
This month's release still not out, right?
Probably in the next week or in the next coupleo f days
I think it's usually in the middle of the month, the 20th or something
white beacon
the rokakaka fruit are a special fruit that can transfer the point of your rock disease to some other part of your body, are smuggled into different countries and sold illegally to patrons at a very high price because of their rarity and what they can do. there's a new rokakaka but we're not exactly sure what that does yet.
rock humans are a unique and unknown species hiding in plain sight whether as a human as a rock and go off living their lives mainly by being in the rokakaka smuggling industry, among the other job they do.
the rock disease is a rare disease found only on some humans that causes a certain part, or the entore body, to have a rock-like feature. the other two questions are unanswered but yeah
cedar palm
yea on the 20th normally
supple plaza
The Rock Disease is still unanswered in my opinion because we still don't know how or why it happens
Also we don't know how the Rokakaka fruits came to be and how they do their equivalent exchange, similiarly we don't know when or where the Rock Humans came from
Or what's their real goal
limpid veldt
So what if Mitsuba’s baby wasnt taken but replaced with a rokakaka seed. This might be how they make MORE
rich depot
Yeah but that wouldn't involve more body horror
limpid veldt
This is why Pucci reset the world
white beacon
i forgot daiya's like, kinda blind
and that the rock humans have spikes on their head like they're shigechi or something
(rip shigechi)
flat vale
Mostly blind would be more accurate
white beacon
oh i was saying kinda blind because i wasn't sure how much blind she is
flat vale
She navigates the world almost entirely based on feel if I remember correctly, which explains why she wears that bomb ass outfit
daiaya outfit is 10/10 prove me wrong
ripe marlin
I think shes entirely blind, she just knoes her own house that well
We dont really see her outside of her land
flat vale
I mean there's definitely evidence to support that in the fact that she wanted specifically josuke to take her out shopping as the only way for it to work would be if someone else was with her
limpid veldt
I cant wait for Love Deluxe Requiem
stark fossil
Love Deluxe Requiem or Love Love Deluxe Requiem???
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rich depot
Wait
The rock people have spikes on their head?
Maybe Shigechi was the last of the Rock humans in the original timeline
🤔 🤔 🤔
stark fossil
I can't think of a way to disprove that tbh
dusky geyser
Nah. Araki would have forgotten about the concept of rock humans back then.
rich depot
Fair enough
dusky geyser
Got me there.
stark fossil
damn u right
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dusky geyser
It would explain the Stone Masks even more.
minor ore
I think Araki just really wanted to drop his agriculture knowledge for this part
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stark fossil
Knowledge is an interesting word, with this guy
minor ore
Stone Free vs Doggystyle 🤔
rich depot
『Doggystyle』really makes me 『Soft and Wet』
Seriously though, what sort of music reference is "Soft and Wet?"
dusky geyser
A Prince song. It's on YouTube.
flat vale
『Doggystyle』 makes you 『King Nut King Call』 again for a second date
vague wasp
🔫
flat vale
flat vale
You know they never do say if Kira two has a hand fetish or not
old marlin
Daiya is cute
flat vale
I second that notion
flat vale
Massive respect to part 8 cosplayers especially those that are doing characters that haven’t been shown entirely 360 yet, a lot of talented people out there.
white beacon
it's "narcissistic" and yes new-kira sitll has a hand fetish but only for his own
he has a statue of his own hand, and also a mona lisa replica
craggy belfry
I don't think Kira is a sociopath
narcissistic maybe, but he's pretty sane
probably not even narcissistic, probably just likes his hands
stark fossil
Doesn't he convince a guy to eat his own hands
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craggy belfry
yes cause that guy was killing women
stark fossil
Even so
craggy belfry
and Kira is cold hearted to crime
stark fossil
Bit insane
drowsy oyster
speedwagon should be in part 8
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craggy belfry
MountainTim though
stark fossil
Feels good to level up with that sentence
drowsy oyster
we dont have a part 7 - 8 proper speedwagon do we?
stark fossil
Yasuho
craggy belfry
Mountain Tim
stark fossil
idk what your criteria are for being a proper Speedwagon
craggy belfry
so Mountain Tim
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stark fossil
Gyro the biggest Chad I guess
drowsy oyster
speedwagon lives mature women
yeah but he is like the seasonal waifu to speedwagon
the absolute chad
stark fossil
Gyro taught Johnny Spin; without Spin Johnny might never have continued the bloodline
craggy belfry
In other words, Johnny spun his dick
craggy belfry
Steven Steel is SBR Speedwagon this is not up for debate
stark fossil
He's wholesome but not a huge Chad
I guess he delivers a lot of exposition
Definitely a candidate
craggy belfry
he is a huge Chad, he seduced a 14 year old girl unintentionally who was probably jacked up on hormones and he was exceptional at every job he did then made 1 trillion off a race and donated it all to charity
stark fossil
But I don't think Araki has produced an equivalent of Speedwagon ever again, and that is ultimately his downfall
white beacon
isn't mountain tim actually speedwagon? i mean, he has the scar and the fancy hat
craggy belfry
Mountain Tim is part 1 Speedwagon, Steven Steel is part 2
stark fossil
He does start off opposed to the main characters and is then won round
And he has a nice hat
drowsy oyster
Mountain Tim was more of a Hol Horse to me and im not just saying that before of they are the cowboy type
stark fossil
Which Stephen Steel doesn't
craggy belfry
Araki also never made a true equivalent for jotaro, okuyasu, kira, josuke, or erina, but nobody says anything there
stark fossil
Mountain Tim's like a hopeless romantic
No because none of them are S P E E D W A G O N
craggy belfry
Mountain Tim- falls for a young girl
Steven Steel, the absolute Chad- only wants to protect, her not attracted at all
I am tired as fuck that comma is in the wrong place
stark fossil
Surely a true Chad can take some action for themselves without being told what to do by a little girl
craggy belfry
Well was Part 1 Speedwagon really a Chad? Part 2 was for sure
drowsy oyster
its a meme
stark fossil
He was the leader of a street gang
craggy belfry
3 guys is not a street gang that like a couple of guys who smoke together and mug people
drowsy oyster
the joke is that speedwagon explains every fight in long detail without actually doing anything to help Jonathan
craggy belfry
Speedwagon falls in love with a brickwall then is cucked by Erina
stark fossil
It's not about the size of the street gang
It's about the size of the gang in your heart
craggy belfry
Powerful words
white beacon
stop
craggy belfry
Jotaro is going to choketaro
rotund haven
I really doubt there will be a part 9
white beacon
it'd be weird not to have a part 9, considering the series so far has been set in trilogies
white beacon
if GDSt. prison is a stone ocean, then the unnervingly large hidden populace of rock humans is an ocean of stones
versed crown
minor ore
🤔 🤔 🤔
summer tree
BEST JOJOLION FIGHT GO
white beacon
blue hawaii fight
minor ore
jk Vitamin C, probs
white beacon
you mean funfunfun?
minor ore
oh yea
white beacon
and eyha i'm down for vitamin C
but ozon baby and that uhhhhh rock dog tank with that rock human with a weird small disintegration stand was cool too
minor ore
we're all rock humans in this blessed day
plot twist: everyone in morioh is rock humans
summer tree
PLOT TWIST ROCK HUMANS ARE NORMAL PEOPLE AND NORMAL PEOPLE ARE ROCK PEOPLE
minor ore
OMG
what if the real rock humans are the friends we made along the way
i'm kinda not a fan of araki giving josuke4/josefumi okuyasu's hair with his new artstyle
white beacon
nah that's not oku hair, oku's quiff is much shorter, or like, no quiff at all. like a slicked back mohawk
ionic locust
I kinda like it
ripe marlin
Koichi looks off
minor ore
i don't understand which part of josuke's stand is killer queen
it just seems like it's mostly Josefumi's?
white beacon
i think maybe the bubble bombs? i'm not sure about that part
or maybe there never is a KQ part is josuke's S/W
minor ore
ah yea
oh it would probably be so hype if it turns out he can summon KQ too
there hasn't been anyone with two stands before, right?
but i feel that would be too overkill lol
white beacon
jolyne could, that very short one time where she had star platinum's disc in her
minor ore
oh right, and emporio, doesn't emporio have a stand too?
white beacon
yeah, burning down the house
minor ore
right, the entire room
white beacon
but those technically don't count cuz they were caused by disc and not by more closer-to-natural means like fusing two people
minor ore
yea, true
it would really be interesting if the rokakaka fusion caused a double stand situation
white beacon
ohhh, that'd be cool if that's what the new rokakaka could do
white beacon
i'd say it might be possible for josuke to develop another personality because he can go from "kind lad" to "beat you up with a shovel right beside my girlfriend" very quickly, and thus two stands
like with doppio/diavolo having KC/epitaph
minor ore
josuke went from learning about an insidious conspiracy to "what's in that fourth pole over there?" lol
I love Gappy
old marlin
I forgot that josuke was basically doppio
summer tree
NEW CHAPTER IS OUT
WE FINALLY GET TO SEE MITSUBA'S STAND IN ACTION
AND UNDERSTAND WHAT TOMOKI'S DOES
white beacon
oh hey, it's already the 19th, i didn't notice that
though the 19th here right is more or less the 18th in most of the world
summer tree
18th for me lol
But a new chapter nonetheless
I liked it because stuff is actually happening
white beacon
we can finally know about the baby
summer tree
it ain't pretty I can tell you that much
white beacon
i can't not think of the worst to happen
summer tree
Also Mitsuba still follows the king rule
white beacon
OH WAIT FUCK
summer tree
As her stand has the word AwaKING
white beacon
i shouldn't have checked this chat i actually didn't want to be spoiled
i shall return!
summer tree
Alright, you go read it lol!
white beacon
arrow stand
i don't get the part about the thing about using three arroww and shortest route thing
but i like how che can forcibly move stuff with an arrow
white beacon
UwU tomoki
elfin mist
dwocta uwu twomwokwi
white beacon
i still don't know if his fragmentation is either a stand ability or a rock human ability, but he's cool that he has his own catchphrase now
elfin mist
i'm thinking it's a stand honestly
or, at least, an ability that he uses that's akin to a stand ability
white beacon
rock people are weird
elfin mist
definitely
white beacon
and goddamn we got to know about the status of the baby in the worst goddamn way possible
it really horrified me there
elfin mist
yea i was next to a friend who hadn't finished the chapter yet when i reached that point lmao
was hard to keep quiet lol
also we're finally getting another rock person arc that doesn't feel unfufilling
at least imo
white beacon
yeah, we're learning a lot from this arc
the hospital might be where the biggest battle will be, cuz it's source
what's Awaking's namesake though? i'm looking around and can't think of anything
elfin mist
not fully sure tbh
looked around myself n didn't find anything, only nature related stuff.
white beacon
sigh, guess we're in another Waking Heart dilemma
ripe marlin
wait is the new chapter out?
elfin mist
yea
elfin mist
also nvm i didn't find anything,
closest song i found is awaking the centuries
but i doubt that's the reference
summer tree
Awaking is word
white beacon
really? cuz all i can find is awakening
elfin mist
i'm not fully sure if it's an actual word honestly
since i kept getting results for awakening
stark fossil
OH SNAP
stark fossil
WITH GREAT FANFARE BOIS
rotund haven
Big kid in a raincoat
fervent yoke
rotund haven
The beginning of the chapter started pissing me off
fervent yoke
yes
rotund haven
It's basically recap
white beacon
not really?
fervent yoke
I feel like it's been a lot of that lately
white beacon
it's not a recap cuz she's telling a part of teh story we haven't seen yet
rotund haven
But it was framed almost exactly the same way the first exam we saw was like
fervent yoke
^
white beacon
i guess, but at least we're given more context about the situation
even if just a bit
summer tree
What theory?
river sail
I just realized "Walking Heart" does not break the King tradition
I was actually confused
For a little
whole lion
I read that as wanking heart oops
river sail
stark fossil
Someone said Higgy Stand names have 'King' in the name but the syllable placement corresponds to the generation
white beacon
oh
river sail
Also Walking Heart is fucking weird
whole lion
spaghetti heart
summer tree
What do you mean by the syllable placement?
river sail
E X T E N D H E E L
white beacon
oh
stark fossil
King Nothing -> First syllable -> First generation
summer tree
Oh
white beacon
i understand now
actually, it was broken when daiya came along, since hers is the 3rd syllable
stark fossil
I wanna see Walking Heart again; if it's just a shoe-based Stand I will probably laugh but definitely be disappointed
white beacon
or 4th, i'm bad at math
white beacon
yeah, that theory had no bearing at all, also it's 5th, i hate California
stark fossil
That's a Bruno theory right there
Ca-li-for-ni-a by my count
idk if it should be "nia" as one syllable or not
The point is Araki must have been reading some high school maths
summer tree
A Bruno theory?
stark fossil
Yeah, died pretty quickly but kept going for some reason
white beacon
nah that's cuz zombie powers don't ask no mo
summer tree
Oh lol
So I'm a little confused about something
How exactly did Tomoki use his ability on the unborn baby at the end of the chapter?
white beacon
are we sure it was the unborn baby though
maybe he already did it during the examination part, didn't mitsuba forget what happened during that?
like, the baby becomes rock afflicted, uwu fragmentates it during the examination and uses it against mtsuba and yasuho during the battle
that's how i think it went down
summer tree
Yeah, that's what I thought but I wasn't sure
white beacon
still, it shakes me to my core seeing that scene cuz i sometimes invest too much into trying to be like the character
summer tree
Yeah, it makes you sympathize with Mitsuba
white beacon
the moment of realization that the fragments you pushed out of your fingers are that of your unborn baby will send you into some kind of mental shock
summer tree
Which is weird because the arc made you want to NOT sympathize with her
white beacon
earlier in the arc: hah mitsuba's just selfish and she got herself tricked by uwu, she deserves it
now in the arc: OH SHIT DEAD BABY
so like, i kinda now feel like i was just as swayed as josuke was with that baby during blue hawaii
summer tree
Yeah, it's, as they say, bizarre
rotund haven
ehhhhh
summer tree
Araki says the plot is gonna converge after this arc and I'm very curious what he means by that
Are we gonna go into D4C territory?
Where we get into the final fight?
But that final fight lasts like several years?
summer tree
I mean we have all the Higashikata stands
The only thing we don't know is the name of Kaato's stand and the extent of its abilities
I really wanna know who the main villain is
It's probably Jobin
But there's a chance it isn't
drowsy spindle
part about alternate giorno when
flat vale
Never, needs to be an alternate Dio body swap for that to happen
rotund haven
Gappy IS alternate gio
summer tree
we need the next Jojo to be an alternative Giorno Jolyne combo
rotund haven
That's GAPPY
rotund haven
He's getting the rokaka (cd) for his mother (jotaro)
Unless you mean a literal mix of the two
summer tree
like a literal mix of the two
I mean really
just a female Italian Jojo protag works
because Parts 1-3 are combined into Part 7
Part 4 into
Part 8
and if the theory about Part 9 being the last since it's like a trilogy
then put Parts 5 and 6 together
minor ore
someone explain Awaking III Leaves' ability to me, please
flat vale
which stand?
pastel kestrel
what is mitsubas stand a reference to even
minor ore
"the entire server is typing" lmao
flat vale
"she can manifest small hand-sized arrows that redirect energy and objects outwards towards their tips."
drowsy oyster
When's next chapter?
kind owlBOT
@drowsy oyster, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !
sand ruin
the new chapter is fucking amazing
kind owlBOT
@sand ruin, Your Gangstar cred is now level 4 !
sand ruin
ayy
summer tree
@drowsy oyster
I'm sorry if you don't like being pinged
the latest chapter JUST came out
knotty sigil
Holy fuck mitsuba’s stand is so cool
Awaking III Leaves
What is that a reference to?
knotty sigil
Best part was when she kicked the shit out of tomoki
livid crest
I hope we get to see more mitsuba fighting
knotty sigil
100% we will
I'm surprised araki decided to leave josuke and mamezuku out of this fight
good call imo
sand ruin
fax
drowsy oyster
Holy shit new chapter
livid crest
Yee boi
dusky geyser
I thought we had a week or so until the next chapter. Well no complaints.
grave tulip
Wait so did Mitsuba already have a stand or did it manifest at this moment?
Cause she seemed to know how to use it
summer tree
that's how it for most stand users
they kind of just know how to use them
I mean Carne knew how Notorious B.I.G. worked
and Yasuho had Paisley Park work without her knowledge
stands are weird like that
grave tulip
I mean Mitsuba had a name for it and was able to properly explain it's ability
And she even said one of those epic anime activation moves
rotund haven
Rai and josuke are LITERALLY in the same lobby
And they don't notice the crowd of people convulsing on the ground
minor ore
after part 5 i stopped trying to understand how some stands work lmao
flat vale
yeah if you overthink this stands that are already operating on impossible concepts, you're never going to understand. Just take them at face value most of the time.
turbid slate
Ive never been one to read the black and white manga, but would it be worth it for jojolion?
dusky geyser
Does anyone know what the music reference is for Awakening 3 Leaves?
white beacon
it's awaking and no we don't, kinda like with walking heart
unless you guys know walking heart's namesake and i'm just late to the party
we don't know if uwu's dusting is his own ability or his stand's
minor ore
Walking Heart Attack apparently
white beacon
?walking heart attack
minor ore
some album
white beacon
huh
white beacon
though the way uwu says that fragmenting is all his ability can do, i would assume he's referring to it as a stand, since he doesn't say "it's all i can do"
minor ore
but then there's that hairpin thing
but idk
maybe it is a stand
welp, comments in the song
are referencing jojo
maybe it is the reference
white beacon
we don't have confirmation from araki in artbooks and stuff and it isn't too blatantly obvious, so they might be jumping the gun
white beacon
yeah, cuz he three-leaf clover is the symbol for clubs
huuuuuuh, i guess araki really is using the card theme long with the king theme for the womens' stands
what about daiya tho...
minor ore
california king bed
white beacon
Hato = Heart = Walking Heart
Mitsuba = Clubs = Awaking III Leaves
minor ore
OHHH
white beacon
Daiya's is Diamond
dusky geyser
The king motif is a nice touch to the Higashikata family.
flat vale
The sexpun is a nice touch to plant appraiser
white beacon
kaato's is Card, i guess, so we lack one lady for Spade
dusky geyser
The chapter was good. That ending though.
white beacon
breaks mah heart everytime
minor ore
isn't calling kaato an antagonist in the wiki a bit jumping the gun
flat vale
If they haven't gone against the protagonist yet, then yes that would be jumping the gun
dusky geyser
At most, Kaato is neutral right now. Not a friend or foe.
white beacon
at this point, kaato's an outsider to the higashikatas
dusky geyser
Yeah basically.
kind owlBOT
@dusky geyser, Your Gangstar cred is now level 8 !
minor ore
I have a feeling JJL will end with the harvesting :x
dusky geyser
Hopefully we get the main villain soon.
minor ore
Jobin
flat vale
I mean it's kind of safe to say that the main plot of JJL is "Get plant to save holly"
minor ore
Jobin or Kaato
dusky geyser
Then Kaato decides anyone against Jobin is her enemy.
flat vale
it's important to remember most jojo parts plots can be explained in a single sentence, and I would imagine part 8 isn't going to be an exception
minor ore
true
flat vale
at a base level I mean
dusky geyser
We know the story, but not the direction or ending.
minor ore
I feel like I know where the story's headed but at the same time I don't
I think this part is gonna take 100+ chapters
dusky geyser
It has to be. Otherwise it would feel too short looking back on it.
minor ore
that's what? 4 more years
flat vale
It's safe to say that we are approaching end game because I doubt it'll go past 125
we don't want a berserk 2
dusky geyser
That's a fair amount of chapters. How long was Part 7 when it ended?
flat vale
that's why i'm saying 125, end game hasn't been initiated in JJL yet but it needs to get there
dusky geyser
When Holly gets the fruit, that will most likely be the climax.
minor ore
or when Josuke regains his memories
tbh, i still don't know wtf Josuke needs to learn about his past
josefumi and kira's stories were already pretty laid out
flat vale
I would assume that was already completed when he learned about his two previous selves
it would be basically impossible to combine two people's memories into one anyway right?
minor ore
yea, that's what i'm thinking
dusky geyser
We know Josuke's story, but he doesn't. That's where the memories come in.
minor ore
seems pretty odd to me
but yea
it's like we're looking in, waiting for the hero to catch up to us
flat vale
I mean I feel like holly is the solution to that problem to an extent
minor ore
tbh I think josuke already knows though
flat vale
"Hey I don't remember who I am"
"Oh cool I was basically both of your moms"
dusky geyser
Which reminds me...When is Nijimura going to be relevant again and help Josuke recover his memories?
minor ore
Kyo is the oddest loose thread in this whole thing
I thought she was gonna have a more prominent role, confiding with josuke
but nope
she just disappeared into the background after that arc
also, I just realized she's... Okuyasu?
dusky geyser
Facts. She was the catalyst for Josuke realizing that he's 2 people in one body. Yet she does nothing to help. We don't even see her investigate the family for clues, and yet she believes they are related to Josuke's amnesia.
And technically she is alternate Okuyasu.
dusky geyser
At this point, the main characters are Josuke, Yasuho, Tsurugi, Jobin, Rai, and Norisuke.
minor ore
damn, this is my first time waiting for the rest of the story, and I'm kinda spoiled
unlike other manga, waiting for years for JoJo to wrap up seems unreal
pastel kestrel
yea
white beacon
Mamezuku Rai? more like, MAMA-zuku Rai
eyyo
i'm too used to waiting for monthly manga so jojolion's just another manga for me
ivory kiln
Does anybody know the musical reference of Awaking III Leaves
white beacon
some say it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvYRYCIAKZo