Yeah, because faith is my Armor basically removed his one major strength.
#terrible ideas
wintry tendon
feral fractal
the warrior identifies pohs instantly and can use the first sou on armor immediately
grizzled flame
add a challenge that makes ranged combat nearly unplayable
yes
feral fractal
warrior has the simplest strategies and thus is easier to learn
but his strategies arent great in high chal runs
pearl girder
Balance champs for post-sewers & sewers. Not just the whole game.
dusk sky
that would both put high chal players through more suffering and make warrior more relevant
wintry tendon
Not to mention, his seal only works on armors. What if it worked on wands
feral fractal
make warrior good for high chal runs, and now beginners have nothing
feral fractal
Not to mention, his seal only works on armors. What if it worked on wands<:buffs...
thats a good terrible idea
wintry tendon
Seal boomerang warrior meta
grizzled flame
champs sewers is kinda awful
pearl girder
By champs I meant the hero classes :v
wintry tendon
Blazing crab
grizzled flame
that would both put high chal players through more suffering and make warrior mo...
tbf the issue is that warrior woudl still be as awful as before , and everyone else would just be made way worse
lol
dusk sky
challenges aren't fun they're meant for when you think you're addicted to the game so challenges are there to make you hate it in a heartbeat
wintry tendon
Projecting gnoll
grizzled flame
By champs I meant the hero classes :v
oh LOL
cinder lichen
About warrior, I've barely seen warrior being used in difficult TCPD content
feral fractal
waiting for the day allchal tcpd is completed
cinder lichen
and I have no idea how that can be fixed
grizzled flame
waiting for the day allchal tcpd is completed
udo know its legit impossible right
lol
cinder lichen
any other class have utilities to avoid dmg
wintry tendon
Terrible idea: add a t2 talent for warrior which passively increases his attack range once every 10 turns or so
cinder lichen
while warrior is a warrior
grizzled flame
and I have no idea how that can be fixed
for ur mod's case, honestly u can only rly rework warrior entirely
the issue with ur mod is that its centered all around its increased difficulty
to teh point of ridiculousness
so warrior's nature as a simpel straightforward class kinda... doesnt... work for it
not in teh way it does for shattered
cinder lichen
Well, I plan on adding "challenge sets", ka batches of preset challenges
grizzled flame
oo
feral fractal
imagine if allchal gave you a starting boost to make it possible
dusk sky
get rid of the 0-150 hp range, use a hearts system like minecraft
cinder lichen
aka class-specific challenge
wintry tendon
If warrior had a way to block damage without armors he would do fine
No more Armor dump
grizzled flame
No more Armor dump
but his gimmick is investing into armor
cinder lichen
this is "fuck warrior", not "expert warrior playtrough"
dusk sky
warrior is an armor focused character and armor in pd is lame
feral fractal
If warrior had a way to block damage without armors he would do fine
tier 2 food ability
grizzled flame
its a good start for making armor more BASED
cinder lichen
just use yapd's armor system
Hm?
dusk sky
wow! 2 extra high roll scaling
cinder lichen
May I get more details?
wintry tendon
tier 2 food ability
That's for one turn and you can't even do anything
dusk sky
uniqueness through the roof
wintry tendon
Imagine it lasted multiple turns
pearl girder
Challenge idea:
Ranged nerf: Enemies receive damage from ranged attacks over time, as if they had viscosity +2. Receiving ranged damage gives half a turn of haste to the affected enemy, ally or self.
cloth armors are for glass cannon runs
they icnrease specific stats with their upgrade level
but provide very little protection
and are super light
cinder lichen
```
Challenge idea:
Ranged nerf: Enemies receive damage from ranged attacks over...
I like this
grizzled flame
light armors provide less protectionb ut require less str and also give less str penalties
as theres penalties for wearing heavier things in yapd (even if u meet or exceed the str req)
cinder lichen
Nerfs both player and enemy ranged options
grizzled flame
the penatlies decrease some stats
dusk sky
you should be able to make armor out of anything
grizzled flame
heavy armors decrease these stats further but are more protective
cinder lichen
armor made of armor
red oak
armor made of enemy corpse
cinder lichen
Equip 5 layers of cloth for better protection and -50% attack speed
feral fractal
lmao
dusk sky
gnoll: "i hit you for 25 hp"
cleric: "uh i really really believe that you didn't"
cinder lichen
gnoll: "i hit you for 25 hp"
cleric: "uh i really really believe that you didn't...
This is WH40k Orc logic
feral fractal
yog: "YOUR. HOPE. IS. AN. ILLUSION."
cleric: "Or is it? [vsauce starts]"
cinder lichen
they believe really hard that their cars are fast and crude axes can break high-tech armor
and it works
wintry tendon
Idea:
Warrior's seal is his natural Armor (much like rogue's cloak is a natural artifact)
Seal can be upgraded
Nd gets strength and block through higher character level
Also blocks damage based on HP, so it isn't as affected by fima
dusk sky
armor is just numbers there's less gameplay to it than sudoku
warrior is boring by definition
wintry tendon
Idea: add shoulder pads, belts and boots and pants
dusk sky
it's a tradition for #1013833905582899310 to go "i can fix him!" over warrior
wintry tendon
warrior is boring by definition
Me when +10 corrosion wand
dusk sky
meanwhile evan is like "okay so surely THIS new challenge will make him unplayable"
wintry tendon
Warlock is a very unique class i guess
Lots of differing playstyles
Very dynamic
feral fractal
bm better :troll:
feral fractal
but thats the point of the bm
wintry tendon
There should be an Archmage class
Solely casts spells
No combat
The true mage experience
azure garnet
Lots of differing playstyles
OBJECTION
wintry tendon
no staff either
He eats the staff after he gets subclass talent
For archmage powers
azure garnet
I believe sniper and gladiator have the most variety out of subclasses
pearl girder
I posted the Ranged nerf idea as a new post
dusk sky
ah sniper variety
azure garnet
ah sniper variety
have you seen the document?
wintry tendon
I believe sniper and gladiator have the most variety out of subclasses
Sniper is Just dumping a thrown weapon/ring of sharpshooting though no?
dusk sky
the enchantment list?
azure garnet
yes
wintry tendon
Enchantment is a psyop made my sniper propagandists
dusk sky
enchantments work on all weapons
wintry tendon
Gladiator though, many people have gone ham over his comboes
Guess i can't say anything about that
dusk sky
gladiator is fine
feral fractal
glad good
wintry tendon
Ratmogrify warrior best
dusk sky
sniper is just huntress but with armor piercing and those 3 bow variants that are hardly any different from each other
azure garnet
enchantments work on all weapons
but only sniper can use them on other weapons
grizzled flame
sniper is just huntress but with armor piercing and those 3 bow variants that ar...
Now thats just a rly silly statement
wintry tendon
sniper is just huntress but with armor piercing and those 3 bow variants that ar...
I miss the time when warden could just stand over grass and be as tanky as a warrior
grizzled flame
At least for shatter3d standards
wintry tendon
How to play sniper:
-Get grim enchantment
-doesnt matter what speed you augment anymore
-kill
azure garnet
they look the same
=)
wintry tendon
Kinetic damage sniper is interesting but who wants that when you can just use blazing
azure garnet
if you think about it, only 1-2 thrown weapons behave differently
dusk sky
dmg bow no one uses because it's slow an weird
wintry tendon
Fire fire firr
azure garnet
that's because there is a spectrum
from usability by itself to reliance on specials
wintry tendon
if you think about it, only 1-2 thrown weapons behave differently
There's shuriken and boomerang. Everything else is a reskin of rocc and knife
dusk sky
force cube
wintry tendon
Rocc that explodes
grizzled flame
How to play sniper:
-Get grim enchantment
-doesnt matter what speed you augment ...
U van say the same bout warrior and warlock
dusk sky
even though you get those like once in 50 games
seriously what's up with high tier throwable rarity
grizzled flame
Truth be told i wish throwavkes were more interesting
wintry tendon
U van say the same bout warrior and warlock
Yeah, but they don't have """fancy""" talent that requires you to throw a ranged weapon to activate the 'combo™'
azure garnet
from usability by itself to reliance on specials
speed bow doesn't need anything and can be just shot to grievance of your enemies
wintry tendon
Truth be told i wish throwavkes were more interesting
Bombs that have a chance to light up in your backpack if you get burned/fall down a chasm/step on a trap
azure garnet
damage bow's power is in sniper shot
grizzled flame
Speed bkw is great for ench spam
Unaugmented if u got enuff throwavled to sustain it and u get the best of both worlds
Dmg bow for bcoming glad junior
dusk sky
sniper shot more like sniper sh
azure garnet
Bombs that have a chance to light up in your backpack if you get burned/fall dow...
that's mean
wintry tendon
Its literally just smack smack smack kill
Oh yeah, but they are honest.
Sniper does that from a range and has their combo moves that ultimate don't matter if you have a grim bow
dusk sky
arp decrease in fire rate
wintry tendon
Whether it be power shot or flurry
azure garnet
arp decrease in fire rate
it doesn't matter when enemies just perish from said shot
grizzled flame
Triple opportunities to trigger grim and much hogher chance of triggering grim dont matter
wintry tendon
>thatbdont matter
That don't matter on augment speed*
wintry tendon
A single ench
Yes I'm specifically talking about grim
azure garnet
that's mean
like it just reminds of old rogues which thought than making player suffer for no reason was funny
dusk sky
remove all classes from the game because they all SUCK
wintry tendon
Playable monsters
dusk sky
warrior - stupid
rogue - lame
mage - boring
huntress - tryhard bait
dusk sky
no more heroes
wintry tendon
Turn PD into a side scroller
dusk sky
pixel dungeon community peaked at jumpy rat
wintry tendon
no nothing
No nothing = something 11!1!1!1
ebon ingot
pixel dungeon community peaked at jumpy rat
This tbh
dusk sky
jumpy rat is the true pd game with no flaws
azure garnet
I will not be able to implement this in shutter pd unfortunately
azure garnet
jumpy rat is the true pd game with no flaws
it is boring, has no leaderboard, the UI sucks, there is only one setting
wintry tendon
pixel dungeon community peaked at jumpy rat
The old plateau. Reminds me of dota 2. Many people have retired. New joiners quickly lose interest and stop playing .
All that remains are nostalgic people and those that hold onto it for sentimental value (and ofc tryharders)
Maybe I'm wrong
What a rival game to pd mods
What's the league of legends of pd
Gets way more attention even though we are clearly superior
dusk sky
(that was a joke i'm not being a "things were better back then!!" grandpa)
wintry tendon
(that was a joke i'm not being a "things were better back then!!" grandpa)
I am gonna send a
A pipe bomb to ur house 😃
azure garnet
Gets way more attention even though we are clearly superior
no such thing on mobile platforms, as far as I know
wintry tendon
no such thing on mobile platforms, as far as I know
Flying gorilla
Actually any cash grab game made by a big company could count
azure garnet
Flying gorilla
that's not a roguelike
wintry tendon
Ik it's a joke
dusk sky
if anything pd is only rising in popularity even if slowly
touhou PD was pretty popular in a community entirely separated from this one
wintry tendon
Maybe the turn per turn type of gameplay isn't palatable to some folks
And also, there's a lotta forks if you consider pd as a whole
azure garnet
Maybe the turn per turn type of gameplay isn't palatable to some folks
is that a bad thing?
wintry tendon
Many default to shpd alone
azure garnet
Many default to shpd alone
that's because it is most popular mod
QK once made a document discussing how most of mods do not invest into marketing and therefore dive into obscurity
wintry tendon
Yeah. And many people discover new mods through shpd i suppose
So it's a filtered process
wintry tendon
QK once made a document discussing how most of mods do not invest into marketing...
And maybe it just feels too same-ish for outsiders if they are not deeply invested in all the niches of pd
And can't distinguish the specialties of one from the other
dusk sky
the concept of an open source program with many abandoned forks isn't unique to PD
linux is the most obvious example
of course everyone knows ubuntu or at least heard of it
wintry tendon
Counter strike community servers
azure garnet
And maybe it just feels too same-ish for outsiders if they are not deeply invest...
you can sell absolutely anything
just look into hollywood
wintry tendon
you can sell absolutely anything
Yes, but i meant for pixel dungeon, for newcomers, any other non-shpd mod would just feel like a "slightly changed" version and won't stick around to play new mods, or even find time for shpd if there's more games that take their attention on top of all that.
And visually, they aren't drastically different, bar the 1.5D nature of shattered forks or the original style, and a few sprite changes here and there
azure garnet
I don't really know about you
but I have been told in older days than my mods are incredibly popular in China
despite being a buggy mess imho
feral fractal
china worshippin the rat king
wintry tendon
but I have been told in older days than my mods are incredibly popular in China
Ah i didn't know that
What number would you say is "popular"
10k concurrent players?
grizzled flame
Remixed is popular in the russian community iirc
dusk sky
for pd 100 consistent players is already a lot
wintry tendon
Considering 20 million or more players log into mobile games everyday
And there's millions of games
Some big names claim 90% of those
And it doesn't Mean people don't switch games in one day
I guess even then 1000 is huge
It's hard to tell for single players games i guess
dusk sky
pd forks may have millions of downloads but most installs end up never played or deleted after the player dies to a rat twice in a row
azure garnet
but I have been told in older days than my mods are incredibly popular in China
gotcha, found it
wintry tendon
pd forks may have millions of downloads but most installs end up never played or...
- doesn't read what the tutorial notes tell them
- doens't understand what going on
- gets upset
wintry tendon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826622219542986772/922360811299688498/Scr...
Noice
Is it still the case nowadays
red oak
pd forks may have millions of downloads but most installs end up never played or...
That's why I want to put three potion of healing from start on my THPD, and its remake version, preventing early-death.
red oak
- doesn't read what the tutorial notes tell them
- doens't understand what going...
I think SPD needs tutorial dungeon aside. Some newb doesn't read the messages well.
wintry tendon
It's the new player mentality.
"I don't care for the tips imma do my own thing and learn"
And most likely asks about tm a thing explained in the tutorial tips
azure garnet
according to my statistics
Summoning PD has been declining over past month
but monthly users is above 4000 or something
wintry tendon
Summoning PD has been declining over past month
How do you account for people who play without internet access
What's the acceptable error
azure garnet
How do you account for people who play without internet access
I don't know, but GP Console shows a decline
red oak
according to my statistics
Do you have statistics for arknights PD, too?
azure garnet
wintry tendon
Chess PD
red oak
I guess arknight PD has popularity in china bcuz arknight itself is a chinese game
wintry tendon
It's just normal chess. Except you can have classes
I remember chesscraft being a very new and unique "chess sandbox"
You could make your own boards and pieces
And with better skills, unique mechanics even
It's a wonder how no one has developed a similar app sooner
pearl girder
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1972440/shotgun_king_the_final_checkmate/
shotguns? It's better to throw rocks, does three times more damage
wintry tendon
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1972440/shotgun_king_the_final_checkmate/
This won a game jam
Chess style mods are not done well most times just a different variant and not original
This way very original
wintry tendon
Chess style mods are not done well most times just a different variant and not o...
Different piece use/new borders/dealing with move order isn't original is what I mean
And chess is so balanced and iconic it's hard to tweak to make it feel fresh and balanced
And made in a way that a non-chess player could enjoy/seasoned veterans could find a new way to play or look at the game
azure garnet
why
grizzled flame
whats the issue
wintry tendon
So you can check people through time (aka, your king was there in this position before so I can check it)
feral fractal
but its barely actual chess
feral fractal
This way very original
meant to reply to this-
wintry tendon
meant to reply to this-
Oh I was talking about 5D chess
grizzled flame
Chess but 3x nerdier
and the issue is?
wintry tendon
Not shotgun king
feral fractal
my bad
tardy ingot
hi
shy mica
what did i just read
feral fractal
war
shy mica
an entire debate about kiting zerker and jumpy rat
anways time for a high effort idea
potion/scroll side effects
the first obvious one is that thowing pots affects bleed
grizzled flame
Yapd called
shy mica
becaus glas
ik YAPD did like everything already
like being a good mod
anways scrolls should be hard to read for the first time
and every time after that the cast time gets smaller
after like 5 uses you read it in 1 turn
scroll of tp and more importantly passage inflict blind and vertigo
scroll of psionic blast shreds your armor, degrading it by 75% for x turns
mirror image now moves like you
instead of being an independant lil guy
sirens song plays the charm.mp3 sound over every action for the next 10 minutes
spiral thicket
when you are fighting yog with 4 spawner his theme must be what they fear is you from doom
tardy ingot
remove hunger
teal moss
ngl dcss legit did that. Pretty based
tardy ingot
id like if different types of meat had different effects
like sweted meat giving more satiety than carpaccios !! !
would make them useful
ebon ingot
Yapd moment
verbal topaz
Unshatter pixel dungeon
teal moss
Restructured Pixel Dungeon
ebon ingot
If you unshatter the pixel dungeon, does it just become vanilla
grizzled flame
scroll of psionic blast shreds your armor, degrading it by 75% for x turns
Mfw nust nerfs warrior
Just
spiral thicket
noone would fight doomslayer yog without having *cojones*
glances at my sniper and berserker run that obliterated Doomslayer Yog
Nah, the theme is definitelly for you if you got constant high damage stuff and can kill the fists and minions fast before they overwhelm you
shy mica
or just do the DK™️ strat but better by warden and uprooting the entire arena to do a vietnam reenactment
just the soiled and burning fists were
spiral thicket
remove hunger
excuse me, this is terrible ideas no good ideas
shy mica
there should be a thread named smth like "The Pit Of Sheol" that has little to no rules
shy mica
not suitable for sane people
tardy ingot
there should be a thread named smth like "The Pit Of Sheol" that has little to n...
terrible idea
shy mica
finally i respected the thread's purpose
tardy ingot
😆
sharp parcel
white phosphorous
marble tundra
PD2: the hero finally touches grass and the final boss is the government
feral fractal
Lmao
ebon ingot
You can prick enemies with the chalice for (chalice level^2)x3 damage. If they survive, the chalice levels up
neon spindle
Crazy thief has a knife that stab you which causes bleeding for 75% of health
ebon ingot
Yes more prison enemy buffs 
wintry tendon
Flare gun
sharp parcel
Make the tengu fight skippable if you have a bomb/stone of blast/disnt. wand/blast wave wand
The bricks are weak
So blow them away and go into cave
dusk sky
you can use the troll pickaxe to dig a tunnel straight to yog
lavish void
runs after the first have the dungeon already cleared of any loot, you have to go back to the hero remains to pick up their entire inventory
(or whats left of it if you take too long)
if youre levitating, you can only move around via chains
livid summit
unique holly
Nah this fits here perfectly
barren wren
Terrible idea:
If you use last Ethereal Chains' charge the artifact will dissapear because it's literally in description
dusk sky
finally real terrible ideas
grizzled flame
new idea: if u have any form of haste effect, u run teh risk of spilling theblood from teh chalice
higher chance the fuller the chalice is, since u are running rly fast
spilling resets the chalice's lvl to 0, the chance is applied every tile u move with more than 100% movement speed
dusk sky
if you move at a high speed with chalice equipped past the shopkeeper or wandmaker they say "ewwwwww" and leave
grizzled flame
The boots of nature lower ur speed bcuz they are made ou5 of bark do it feeks rly rough on ur feet
Perma crippled
verbal topaz
If you fall off a chasm all of your potions and your hourglass break
dusk sky
and your bombs explode
dusk sky
that was already suggested
verbal topaz
If you get I the range of explosion in a bomb you get killed
And your ankhs explode
So you just die
No way to save yourself
grizzled flame
Ankhs dont work for the cleric bcuz he doesnt believe in egyptian gods
Neither do they work on mage bcuz atheist vibes
verbal topaz
With huntress you can perma charm wandmaker and shopkeepers, who give you all of their wands/items, and they work as ghost
(They can equip armor/weapons)
verbal topaz
If you have all seeds / potions / exotic potions as Cleric you unlock the ultimate armor ability
Ultimate armor ability : costs 0 charge, turns enemies gay
tardy ingot
grizzled flame
Petition to add a special unlockable skin for the cleric
Its a spanish inquisition costume from monty python
verbal topaz
maiden lily
Succubi cant charm warrior bcuz he's gay
Can't succubus shapeshift or something?
grizzled flame
tell me
when u start a huntress run
and reach demon halls
what do teh succubi look like to u?
thats right, the same women as eveyr otehr character
still. A. Woman
feral fractal
clearly they just know the huntress is lesbian
grizzled flame
therefore they cannot charm thosd who are not attracted to them
dusk sky
feral fractal
it's stated explicitly that succubi are trying to appeal to dwarves not the hero
huntress still charmed, so she must be lesbian
dusk sky
feral fractal
slowly everyone will be kicked
grizzled flame
smfh
verbal topaz
I mean it isn't a bad id-
feral fractal
who shall be the last I wonder
verbal topaz
*gets bannes
feral fractal
may the hunger games 2.0 begin
maiden lily
Succubi cant charm warrior bcuz he's gay
What if the charm makes the Warrior hallucinate that the Succubus is a hot man
feral fractal
just make the warrior bi smh
dusk sky
feral fractal
i mean what did you expect from #shitposting-2
grizzled flame
What if the charm makes the Warrior hallucinate that the Succubus is a hot man
ni
no
tardy ingot
it's stated explicitly that succubi are trying to appeal to dwarves not the hero
NEW THEORY: the heroes are dwarves
tardy ingot
warlock is gay
maiden lily
NEW THEORY: the heroes are dwarves
Now that you've mentioned it, has been specifically stated that the heros are humans?
feral fractal
warrior is a very cute gay man simple as that
why do you want them to be gay so badly-
verbal topaz
Pixel dungeon pickup lines & match making revamp
feral fractal
is- figured it out
dusk sky
everytime you compare this thread to that thing i'm considering getting more and more strict with moderation
tardy ingot
Now that you've mentioned it, has been specifically stated that the heros are hu...
the troll shopkeeper in YAPD says that the heroes are humans
Ifrit can you purge the chat !!
😰 yes ?
grizzled flame
lol
dusk sky
Ifrit can you purge the chat !!
yes
tawny pawn
Just purge alone is a terrible Idea
dusk sky
yeah evan accidentally purged the entirety of #casual once
teal moss
"accidentally"
Big sus
maiden lily
yeah evan accidentally purged the entirety of <#535375958648160276> once
How do you "accidentally" do that? 🤨
dusk sky
by using 0 as the number of messages to purge
tall matrix
Evan did minor trolling
red oak
New terrible idea. Real chess.
current depth damage is a joke. on release build, it will change to something
strong quartz
Yay now we have Hopodile energy in PD
Never liked those things, hard to approach in groups and hit for way too much damage at the point you fight their Lv2 version
48 AP on the mid 20F range is rude
red oak
48 AP on the mid 20F range is rude
"Hard to approach", yes I admit it. so I will reduce this penalty weaker. weak 1~5 damage, irrespective of the floor. or granting weakness only, or any ideas?
strong quartz
"Hard to approach", yes I admit it. so I will reduce this penalty weaker. weak 1...
I meant them about in S5 but sure
red oak
Ah
strong quartz
Uh, how about it starts at 0 and the damage increases by 2.5 each chapter?
So in CH1, no penalty, 2, you take 2 damage, 3, you take 5, and so on
At least they don't leap onto you
red oak
~~At least they don't leap onto you~~
lol
strong quartz
Hardly anything more painful than having your escape route cut off when you enter a Monster House with Hopodiles
Also off-topic but yesterday I beat Perilous Rocks "without" dying, the 99F version
The reason I say without in quotations is because I did die once because of a controller misinput
I meant to attack but I moved down. Right into the range of a limit-broken Mixer.
red oak
The reason I say without in quotations is because I did die once because of a co...
It is more safe to play shiren with keyboard anyway I think, since this game's 1 turn is very important
strong quartz
Even on Switch I rarely misinput
A lot of my deaths are due to player mistake or bad luck (what else am I supposed to do about Horrabbits when the turn order absolutely screws me over?)
red oak
Even on Switch I rarely misinput
yes horrabbits are extremely terrible
strong quartz
Who thought they were even a good idea
"Oh look just because you got unlucky on one turn means now you're surrounded by 3 other enemies, also you can't inflict statuses."
(Because they're often paired with Absorbiphants)
red oak
Since shiren enemies are hard to deal with, but...
There is an awesome result.
hold on
How shiren5's story clear rate is higher than SPD's win?
strong quartz
Because Rougelike Vs. Rougelite
Also probably a larger playerbase
Most of the Story doesn't have too many dangerous enemies besides Sky Dragons, MC Wizards, Nashaggas, and of course the two Skywalk Areas.
And of course, Carry-Ins help with a lot of repetition
Whereas PD has no Carry-Ins, has consistently more dangerous enemies, raw progression elements, and 5 bosses, most of which would be tough to someone who hasn't really played that much.
red oak
Whereas PD has no Carry-Ins, has consistently more dangerous enemies, raw progre...
Summarize: it's carry-in vs nothing!
strong quartz
Of course, S5 has two bosses, but I only the first one is really rough
red oak
Of course, S5 has two bosses, but I only the first one is really rough
Kill normal enemies first, and just spam the heal pot. so actually the story boss fight is easy.
strong quartz
(Well yeah, most of Shiren's boss fights aren't that bad)
red oak
(Well yeah, most of Shiren's boss fights aren't that bad)
Yeah there are many ways to deal with.
strong quartz
It's just that the two Death Gyazas can be a pain
And the fact that Reeva spawns more of them
Making the fight pretty dang tough without cheese methods
red oak
Making the fight pretty dang tough without cheese methods
Got invincible grass during the story? you already win. so I'd like to say
strong quartz
Or just play Rocks until you get some.
red oak
To all, shiren 5 story is easy. Try play it.
teal moss
Lol this thread got so offtopic xd
You guys really like that Shiren game
strong quartz
To all, shiren 5 story is easy. Try play it.
And play beyond that since it's really good.
red oak
Lol this thread got so offtopic xd
You guys really like that Shiren game
It's better than fxxking deleting dcss
strong quartz
$20 and it'll last you well over 300 hours
If you stick with it
There's so much strategy behind it, what equipment to use, identification methods, resource management, and much, much more
teal moss
Not sure if I should take your suggestion seriously
We're still in #1016751363570548789 after all
:I_wish_I_had_kappa:
(I'm just fooling around lol)
strong quartz
But yeah like PD has consistently hard enemies throughout the run whereas S5 doesn't get that tough until around 20-25F
But beyond that S5 easily takes the cake when it comes to enemy threat levels
You all like to complain about things in the Halls sniping you from halfway across the room
But it's not from a place you either can't see or from literally across the floor.
And it's often not damage you're suffering from, statuses are painful
red oak
If evan refer shiren enemies when he updates alt. route
strong quartz
Dozikons, Mesmerkons, Ultra Gazers, MC Wizards and Sorcerers, many enemies can seriously injure you from full health or even outright kill you because of their dangerous status effects
Seriously, screw Dozikons, I honestly think they're worse than their Lv4 version
But what could also be worse than dangerous statuses? Losing your items and equips. These of course are major things as well and should be protected as best as you can
red oak
Swordman(Yakumo Ran in touhou genso wanderer series)... is a very dangerous enemy.
strong quartz
Curse Girls, Mudkin, Field Knaves (especially higher leveled ones), Swordsmen, Scoopies, Nigiri Morphs, and Gazers are all capable of doing so and often have a much higher range of effectiveness than you can think
Curse Girls curse or seal two random items in your inventory at Lv3 or 4, that's 8% of your entire inventory usually rendered recoverable at best and unusable at worst.
Mudkin can rust your weapons and shields, and high leveled ones can erase your hard-earned Runes, don't give them a chance to act when your equips are still on and they're next to you.
Field Knaves turn items on the ground into Weeds, which are essentially useless. Higher leveled ones have even more dangerous effects, the Lv2 version throws Weeds into your pots, which can ruin important ones such as Synthesis and Fragrance Pots, Lv3 directly parries items in your inventory away with them, which can destroy items, and Lv4 has a chance to directly turn an item in your inventory into Weeds when it's next to you. Including your equipped ones.
Swordsmen parry your equips, Lv1 only does it to your Shield, Lv2 to both your weapon and your shield, Lv3 to all 3 equip types (Bracelets), and Lv4 sends the parried equip to a random tile up to 10 tiles away in any direction. If you have a Cannon Arm effect or it hits an enemy, the parried equip will be lost.
Scoopies throw Dirt into your pots, like Pot Knaves, but it basically ruins nearly any pot that it gets in, unless it's an actively bad one. At least it can be used to get a random Grass item after a few floors.
Nigiri Morphs (Lv2) and Nigiri Kings (Lv4) can turn an item in your inventory into a Large Onigiri. Morphs target anything that's not equipped while Kings target anything.
And Gazers Hypnotize you, causing you to do a completely random thing for the next turn. It could be a random direction attack, throwing any item in your inventory, using any item in your inventory, and more. Ultra Gazers (Lv4) can do it anywhere in the room, causing mayhem if you don't have a Reflection Pot or Anti-Hypno rune.
teal moss
Least passionate Shiren fan
teal moss
Yeah that's the joke/meme xd
strong quartz
And I think it deserves a larger audience
Because there's just so much you can do it's ridiculous
You can do some hilarious setups like where you have a Kappa synthesize things by throwing items at a cloned Mixer
Or create the most powerful equipment ever to exist with the New Item system
There's 27 fun postgame dungeons for you to play around in (we don't talk about the other 3 since they aren't as fun)
red oak
Shiren 5 also has a huge amount of tutorials. If anyone thinks shiren is complex? Don't worry.
strong quartz
Also some minigames
Explosion Rocks, which is basically Minesweeper, and the Statue Cave, where there's 150 puzzles for you to solve
strong quartz
Shiren 5 also has a huge amount of tutorials. If anyone thinks shiren is complex...
Well it still is, but the tutorials do help a good bit on how certain mechanics work
Statue Cave also does as well
red oak
To all, just remember don't throw items to "sleeping" mixer. Please.
strong quartz
To all, just remember don't throw items to "sleeping" mixer. Please.
Or while you have a Cannon Arm effect on.
Though they are related to some painful trophies to earn if you're playing on PS Vita for some reason
Throw an equip at a sleeping Mixer and throw a Synthesis Pot with a Cannon Arm Bracelet.
@red oak what's your favorite monster in S5
red oak
<@887702478462791751> what's your favorite monster in S5
Except mixer? then, I choose grass boy.
strong quartz
Except mixer? then, I choose grass boy.
Grass Kid uhhhhh...
I have a bad history with them.
red oak
I have a bad history with them.
Got superunlucky seed from him?
strong quartz
So in the dungeon Clositer of Certain Doom, very rarely, there are 3 grasses that should NEVER be used.
strong quartz
Got superunlucky seed from him?
Worse. A lot worse.
On 46 or 47F, I don't remember which one, this floor was an absolute disaster
First off, I defeated a Grass Poppa and it drops one of the three aforementioned grasses, the Amnesia Grass.
Have any clue what it does?
This isn't the bad part though, it was just a very bad omen.
Since I identified it right away.
Anyways, I was going around the floor, when another one showed up. I made the foolish mistake of attacking specifically this one and diving retribution strikes me. He scatters and hits me with an Imibikiso. What does this do, you ask?
It curses or seals all your items in your inventory.
This on its own would almost certainly cause a collapse
Then another one appears.
I get hit again by judgement and be hit by a Super Unlucky Seed, dropping to 1 HP, Lv1, 5 FG. I collapse just 60 turns later.
This image just radiates pure pain.
red oak
I get hit again by judgement and be hit by a Super Unlucky Seed, dropping to 1 H...
A terrible moment lol
strong quartz
If I'm completely honest
I don't find Super Unlucky to be that bad
Sure getting sent to those low gauges is very bad
But if you can isolate and defeat just one enemy you'll quickly rise back up to at least Lv23
As for Amnesia, well, it causes you to forget what any and all identified items you've found in your run.
Anyways back to the question
My favorite monster is the Maneater. Ever seen one of 'em?
red oak
My favorite monster is the Maneater. Ever seen one of 'em?
The timeout monster?, I haven't killed him before yet.
strong quartz
The timeout monster?, I haven't killed him before yet.
The one that appears after an Ominous Aura happens, yes.
Well, they are an absolute unit, but my goodness are they fun to fight when you can beat them
There's multiple ways, but nothing is more satisfying than facing them head-on, and winning.
As for more practical ways, well, there's several.
Highly recommend having the Immune status, gotten from eating a Blessed Peach or reading an Immunity Scroll.
I would not recommend fighting them until at least 20F or later
They have 30 base Defense Power, reducing all direct damage by 15 points.
Meaning attacks early on are likely to do nothing more than a single point of damage.
Anyways, Poison Arrows are highly effective, reducing their beefy 65 base Attack Power down to a much more manageable 32.
red oak
Anyways, Poison Arrows are highly effective, reducing their beefy 65 base Attack...
Also rotten peach?
strong quartz
As for statuses, Confusion, Fear, and Blind are all highly effective, but do not use Sleep, Slumber, and Slow.
strong quartz
Also rotten peach?
Rotten Peaches can work as well yeah
The thing with Maneaters is that as soon as they see their target, their speed increases by 1 stage, up to stage 3, or Swift 1, i.e it gets two movement turns and one attack turn.
This is the reason why not to use those three statuses, Sleep only lasts for 2 turns, Slumber lasts for 5 (which can still work if you deal enough damage), and Slow has NO EFFECT.
red oak
This is the reason why not to use those three statuses, Sleep only lasts for 2 t...
Because slow and fast cannot be mixed? right?
strong quartz
Because slow and fast cannot be mixed? right?
Well normally inflicting Slow on a Swift 1 target would set its speed to Normal, 1 movement turn, 1 attack turn.
The problem is that the effect that grants Maneaters a stage of Swift happens every turn while the target is within vision.
Meaning the status has 0 effect unless you're not within its sight.
Because the effect activates in the middle of their turn, it's also not recommended to stay in a hallway unless there's a corner it must first turn
Because if you do, the second it gets vision of you, it gains another turn, and will make an attack, dealing a huge amount of damage to you.
Confusion helps to prevent their attacks from hitting you, same with Fear, and Blind does so as well, except since they lose vision of you, they go back to normal speed.
However, there's another problematic ability they have, their paralyzing roar.
This ability affects the entire room, similarly to Ultra Gazers, and inflicts Paralysis to all enemy targets with around a 50% chance.
tall matrix
what is that game?
strong quartz
This is why Immune is very useful, because it prevents them from getting the first hit on you.
red oak
what is that game?
shiren 5
tall matrix
what is a shiren and what happoened to the other 4
strong quartz
And now we actually have to fight the thing.
tall matrix
and is shiren free?
strong quartz
At Lv1, they have a whopping 100 HP with 65 AP and 30 DP, stats fit for endgame enemies
red oak
what is a shiren and what happoened to the other 4
shiren is an excellent roguelike game, if you heard of pokemon mystery dungeon, or touhou genso wanderer, both are shiren-like games.
strong quartz
and is shiren free?
S5 is $20 but it's an amazing game
strong quartz
The others you should be able to emulate pretty easily but you might need a patch for it since this is natively a Japanese game.
strong quartz
As for ways to actually fight them
You can fight them directly, but this usually isn't a good idea.
You can use a Poison Arrow (easily gotten from Karakuroids) to halve their high AP
tall matrix
It's cheaper than pokemon mystery dungeons
I never ever wasted a cent on games my whole life
sharp parcel
you can use the troll pickaxe to dig a tunnel straight to yog
Driller moment
strong quartz
Shoot them when they're on a Strip Trap or Hunger Trap to Weaken them with an Inaccuracy Bracelet or Killer Arrow
strong quartz
It reduces your FG by 10 points.
Inflicts one stack of Weaken on enemies that activate it.
tall matrix
"In my days these were called pits of despair"
- 👴
sharp parcel
Rings just deal a flat +1 to your unarmed damage. Even ring of force.
strong quartz
Can ya stop please
sharp parcel
No magical effects
tall matrix
Ok
strong quartz
You can eat a few Hard Peaches to grant yourself some stacks of Bolstered for a similar effect
You can build up a powerful Super chain and fight them that way, be aware that you do need Immune for this to be effective
And then two of my favorite ways
Trap yourself in the corner of a room using a Fort Staff while having either a Wall Clip Bracelet or the Tri-Direction rune with Immune status.
They can't hit you, but you can hit them.
Or alternatively
tall matrix
How many items that game has
strong quartz
Trap a Chow in the corner of a room, then paralyze things around it or build walls using a Fort Staff, the Maneater will target the Chow but can never reach it, making it a metaphorical sitting duck for your attacks.
strong quartz
How many items that game has
Let me do a count.
strong quartz
First off though what's your prediction
tall matrix
200
strong quartz
Well, depending on how you count things, you're either not very close or not very close at all.
There are 310 different, tangible items that aren't leveled up weapons or shields
tall matrix
😳
strong quartz
And if you include the leveled equips and intangible ones, there's over 900 of them.
tall matrix
I missed!
strong quartz
Anyways, why would we want to fight Maneaters in the first place, they seem like a liability to fight, so why bother? Well, there are multiple reasons.
First off, they drop 1,000 experience, which is a lot for this point, you can easily get to Lv23 and a few more levels if you kill a good number of 'em.
Second, they give an unparalleled amount of equipment experience, a hidden mechanic that the game never tells you the direct values of in-game
A Lv1 Maneater drops an insane 400 equipment experience, that's as much as a Bashagga, an enemy that's practically impossible to fight directly
And at Lv4, Isleaters drop 900, the second highest amount only beaten by its Night version, which you shouldn't be trying to even kill with a direct attack.
And this can be boosted to 1,600, or 3,600 for Lv4 with the Tinkerer status active, for reference, that's enough to max out a Targite from Lv1 to Lv8 in 36 kills, exclusively for killing Lv1 Maneaters.
And lastly, they have a much higher than average chance to drop an item, 31% (most day things are 4% if they have a chance to, a few have a 2% chance) chance, and it's not an ordinary floor table item, it's guaranteed to be an item from that dungeon's Shop table, usually it'll be better than what you can normally get from the floor
Though be careful if it drops a grass, some dungeons have some really bad things there in the shop table
I'm pretty sure I've destabilized this entire thread but it's fun talking to someone who's a fan of the series.
red oak
I understand since it is a little hard to find shiren enjoyers(except pokemon, touhouGW)
strong quartz
Hopefully this inspires you to maybe fight some on occasion.
red oak
Hopefully this inspires you to maybe fight some on occasion.
Not only for me, but also for all to see this thread.
teal moss
"I love that maneater" - Zack
red oak
Hopefully this inspires you to maybe fight some on occasion.
Ah, btw have you played SFC version of shiren 1? Diagonal controls are working bad with SFC controller, is it normal?
strong quartz
Ah, btw have you played SFC version of shiren 1? Diagonal controls are working b...
I've only actually played S5, but I might play the SNES version on an emulator some day.
Or maybe even play the DS version on real hardware
red oak
I've only actually played S5, but I might play the SNES version on an emulator s...
I don't know that your location has a retro cafe or something but for my case,
Played it with SFC.
tall matrix
The fumos so cute! ☺️☺️
red oak
I especially love this monster house theme from touhou genso wander reloaded.
red oak
The fumos so cute! ☺️☺️
I collect many fumos(currently 20+)
red oak
Hold on
tardy ingot
idea: replace every enemy with a crab
red oak
Send photos
And they rest
neon spindle
Idea: replace every enemy with warlock
dusk sky
fumo
verbal topaz
How shiren5's story clear rate is higher than SPD's win?
Did you know
That every year, more then 696969 adventurers die prematurely for the encounter of crabs or snakes?
Donate at 19482864379103082718 for the F.E.S.A.C.F.D. (foundation extintion snakes and crabs for dungeons)
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red oak
That every year, more then 696969 adventurers die prematurely for the encounter ...
For non-expert, They think, armor is useless! I will kill'em all just upgrading the weapon!
Reality: you died
dusk sky
fumo
verbal topaz
For non-expert, They think, armor is useless! I will kill'em all just upgrading ...
I mean, after prison armor IS useless with rogue / huntress
verbal topaz
Also why is one tryna make us look under her skirt
Edit: like half of them
red oak
Also why is one tryna make us look under her skirt
One interesting and fun info: when grabbing fumos, we do this, like this
verbal topaz
Oh bruhhh lmao
neon spindle
How many you have
verbal topaz
Also isn't BIT exaggerated all those paintings and the tables
red oak
How many you have
Including dekas, more than 20.
#1016751363570548789 message
Just see this
verbal topaz
Including dekas, more than 20.
Btw where were you in this photo
verbal topaz
.
red oak
Btw where were you in this photo
So you want my face reveal?
verbal topaz
What?
red oak
Ah, wait
dusk sky
the place
verbal topaz
Lmao
red oak
Have you heard of aniplus shop?
red oak
It sells ani-related products, and periodically they open a collab-theme cafe.
verbal topaz
Is it in europe?
red oak
Is it in europe?
Nope, in korea.
red oak
I have never ever seen something like this in europe
Aniplus in korea became famous to non-koreans too with hololive x aniplus collab cafe.
verbal topaz
Funni
wintry tendon
Remove prison biome
red oak
Btw where were you in this photo
And current collab cafe, uma musume. (But I don't play uma musume, since the game is very RNGful, and no controls at player's will.) Just have some interest of chars.
verbal topaz
(The food looks really good tbh)
neon spindle
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20220720-02-3/
How is this a terrible idea lmao
red oak
If someone is drunk, hololive pixel dungeon? Or hololive version of shiren just like touhou genso wanderer, or diavolo's adventure.
For gawr gura, inflicts instakill when caught... nethack kraken reference...
wintry tendon
No more vtubers
Vtubers are just regular streamers with mask on
(OMG dream reference!1!1!)
red oak
Yes we need to talk about shiren more
azure garnet
No more vtubers
OBJECTION
I was thinking lowly of this culture at your age too
but I came to understand than it is important to someone
red oak
Actually tbh, vtubers are balance collapsing because there are too many vtubers now
azure garnet
they are same celebrities on twitch as fortnite fans with 25k viewers
and if you have any objections to that
you should object to personality cults as a whole
more
teal moss
Or maybe he just thinks vtubers specifically are cringe and cringe-pilled smh
You tricked me into thinking you're a little open-minded there >:/
azure garnet
I don't believe than labor conditions for those gals are the best in the world
have you heard about how korean idol agencies just throw their stars away once they reach certain age?
red oak
have you heard about how korean idol agencies just throw their stars away once t...
Probably via some news. Yes.
red oak
have you heard about how korean idol agencies just throw their stars away once t...
Korean idols actually have dark-side problems. But japanese k-fans don't know this.
teal moss
Heh
"Never meet your heroes"
azure garnet
Actually tbh, vtubers are balance collapsing because there are too many vtubers ...
it is same thing with any trend
verbal topaz
but I came to understand than it is important to someone
Joke?
verbal topaz
you should object to personality cults as a whole
50% of em are just fanservice
azure garnet
why I would joke about basic human affection and admiration
verbal topaz
Yep you are definitely joking
azure garnet
why I would joke about basic human affection and admiration
you all have your own idols
azure garnet
Yep you are definitely joking
what
teal moss
...
Bastard! He got me
You're right cat
azure garnet
just because I am bitter bastard most of the time
it doesn't mean I do not understand why things become popular and how people can grow attached to them
if you have any basis for thinking than I am not geniune
please show it now
red oak
And this thread has suddenly frozen. What a freezing topic.
wintry tendon
Nah, it's just that the genre is saturated i feel
Basically getting free press because anime avatar
Is like too low effort
In the end they are basically streamers
red oak
In the end they are basically streamers
Low effort vtubers' final object: making "intended" money. They doesn't interested in writing anime-character history.
wintry tendon
you should object to personality cults as a whole
It's less the cult and more the person to me. I don't actually hate vtubers either lmao
They are corporation run as well
At least most of them
Hololive and nijisanji are bigger ones
So new recruits get traction very far compared to independent streamers
And they kinda bastardised virtual avatar imo
So many anime face streamers nowadays
I think streaming culture is wack anyhow. Merely because of the amount of them out there
I mostly watch clips of people
red oak
In 2022: A streamer with virtual character!
In 2032: A streamer with alphago!
...
Well, streaming will be doomed if alphago(A.I.) streamers are advent.
azure garnet
alphago?
that's a board game engine
are you saying than we should expect the rise of chess streamers?
red oak
that's a board game engine
No, I meant artifical intelligence streamers, not chess.
azure garnet
but alphago and similar are specialized for one task
if you want to say than streaming on twitch can be formalized enough to be reproduced by machine...
that's preposterous
AI text generation is somewhat too slow to keep engaging with the audience in believable ways
also this hypothetical streamer has to be unpredictable enough to generate clips
which is also unrealistic idea
red oak
Am I being overly concerned? The singularly is near...
teal moss
First I heard about AI art. Then I heard about AI music
And now I'm hearing about AI streamers (Roboplier woo!)
Someone convince me how we're not approaching the robot apocalypse
red oak
First I heard about AI art. Then I heard about AI music
And now I'm hearing abou...
Currently, japanese anime artists were pissed off because of new art drawing AI.
wintry tendon
The only AI we need is Roko's basilisk
azure garnet
Currently, japanese anime artists were pissed off because of new art drawing AI.
that's because their career depends on drawing similar frames and backgrounds
it is similar to automation riots several hundred years ago
instead of taking advantage of leaving busywork to machines
they see it as a thing that will completely replace them
which is not very unrealistic, seeing the situation with text generation programs
the biggest problem to solve is deciding who owns AI-generated shit
no laws account for those programs
red oak
no laws account for those programs
https://petapixel.com/2022/10/06/google-announces-text-to-video-ai-generator-that-creates-hd-video/
Google also made this text to video AI.
teal moss
Give me a single break already lol
I'm imagining an AI-generated analog horror series (or something as cryptic at least)
barren wren
Give me a single break already lol
I'm imagining an AI-generated analog horror s...
||All "Black Mirror" episodes are actually made by an AI||
azure garnet
https://petapixel.com/2022/10/06/google-announces-text-to-video-ai-generator-tha...
they will not release this tool until those concerns are mitigated
hahah
we know those cultural biases
they are just thinking about monetizing this shit
and not actually caring about explicit content because every big tech company runs on denial of responsibility
shy mica
but uhhhh, i n t e r e s t i n g proposition
what was
shy mica
good idea
tardy ingot
closing down the thread
great idea!
sharp parcel
New challenge idea:
Frail-bodied
> Start with 1 max HP
> Gain +1 max HP per level
> Might elixirs will work
So it's basically a don't get hit challenge
sharp parcel
yeah, starvation only does 1 tick of damage always though
strong quartz
Pretty much just Become Ethereal but worse
red oak
And potion of intangible
honest gull
New challenge idea:
```
Frail-bodied
> Start with 1 max HP
> Gain +1 max HP pe...
@cinder lichen your cue
teal moss
Pretty much just Become Ethereal but worse
Which game are you referencing?
strong quartz
Which game are you referencing?
Summoning PD conduct (challenge)
Reduces your Max HP to 1 and increases Evade by 5x, Accuracy and Move Speed by 25%, and makes evading attacks more consistent
wintry tendon
add countries
plain hemlock
Anti-curse cursed enchants.
We have entropy curses, why not have it on the armour that does the reverse, effectively canceling each other out.
This would make the cursed infusions more interesting.
Proposals
Weapon. Armour
Entropy, Anti Entropy
Annoying, Silencing
Sacrificial, overgrowth
sharp parcel
"Deep freeze"
debuff that freezes an enemy (or the player) through ENTIRELY, not just encasing them in ice.
player/mob is unable to move and slowly (I mean very slowly) loses life
any physical damage above a threshold causes the ice to shatter, killing the player or mob instantly
dusk sky
aw hell nah
pixel dungeon snowgrave route
sharp parcel
real
grizzled flame
awh hell nah
huntress as noelle nah
sharp parcel
Chilling enchant on the bow w/ RoAR +16
tawny pawn
instead of the tunnels missing in the echo levels, the floors are missing
wintry tendon
Remove specials. Everyone starts out with 3 coins and they have to buy their own starter kit (final fantasy style)
verbal topaz
You can change gender
tawny pawn
You can change gender
thats a good idea
dusk sky
you can change gender but you have no control over it
it just happens randomly like every 50 turns
red oak
Several terrible trap ideas:
Dispel enchantment trap: both your weapon and armor's enchantment are removed.
Ring destruction trap: destroy randomly one of your equipped ring. Resists if the targeted ring has upgraded.
Blue crabmorph trap: you transform into a blue crab, all of your belongings are disabled(ankhs does not work too), and your movement speed is slowed. But you can parry one attack per 1 turn. This lasts until the transformation is ended.
stone marsh
Several terrible trap ideas:
Dispel enchantment trap: both your weapon and armo...
How is blue crab morph a trap?
red oak
How is blue crab morph a trap?
Just a reference of shiren
tawny pawn
As long as you fight in a hallway, unkillable
A hallway has two sides, one enemy on both sides
stone marsh
This has literally never happened to me
stone marsh
I remember in some mod your sprite changes when you drink from the transmutation well
dusk sky
vanilla?
azure garnet
yes, in vanilla your class changes if you go into well of transmutation
verbal topaz
I remember in some mod your sprite changes when you drink from the transmutation...
That's vanilla
stone marsh
yes, in vanilla your class changes if you go into well of transmutation
Class together with bonuses or just sprite?
azure garnet
just sprite according to wiki
grizzled flame
oh my goodness gracious its making me acrt strange
stone marsh
oh my goodness gracious its making me acrt strange
👀
dusk sky
you are all acting strange
stone marsh
not the woman version tho ew
Idk they both hot imo
grizzled flame
that's weird and not in-character
LOL
grizzled flame
neo simping for warrior
hey man he was just drawn in teh type of guy im into so
ecks dee
stone marsh
see i would agree if i was bi but im not bi im gay so
wait crap does that mean im bi?
azure garnet
I mean
bi is most practical sexuality
you can fuck both men and women
that's awesome
👍
okay let's stop
stone marsh
inb4 ifrit bans trashbox
azure garnet
here is my terrible idea
mirror images copy your actions
they attack at the same time as you
and take damage at the same time as you
grizzled flame
wait crap does that mean im bi?
no idea so
grizzled flame
bi is most practical sexuality
curiously, most bi ppl ive met are single
azure garnet
how old they were?
grizzled flame
so instead of bisexual they rly tend to just be bi-themselves
grizzled flame
and take damage at the same time as you
new viscosity rework:
getting hit by more than X% of ur max hp (the % lowers with upgrades), u split!
the dmg taken is split between ur new two versions
each version gets its own turn and is contorlled separately
stone marsh
can you recombine?
grizzled flame
they also get halved max hp
and u can continue splitting. Over. And over. And over. And o v e r
no limits, each new YOU gets copies of ur items
grizzled flame
can you recombine?
sure nuff, at the end of the floor u recombine with ur own selves
the real challenge is not wanting to die having to control multiple characters per step
stone marsh
how about running into one wall for like 10 turns until you pop! and are back together
dusk sky
agario
grizzled flame
it has to be a veeeerryyy good effect that is so unbelievably painful to use that no one uses
despite knowing that arguably its rly fucking good
here we do it thru micromanagement hell
and ofc once theres more than oen copy of urself u cant autorun anywhere since each copy is controlled by u
instead of being an AI like the sad ghost
obv
stone marsh
terrible idea: you can enter the dungeon with up to 4 heroes. All loot is multiplied based on how many people are there.
you control them all alone
once one hero makes their turn, time for another
all the time
grizzled flame
idea: delete every mod channel other than shattered
stone marsh
if a typical game is between 15 and 20k turns (i think?), this will take about five times more time
grizzled flame
its not like most ppl here play anything that isnt shattered anyways
might as well consolidate the monopoly already
grizzled flame
if a typical game is between 15 and 20k turns (i think?), this will take about f...
5x more turns, and wayyy more irl time
dusk sky
swap archived pd channels with current ones
azure garnet
unironically
we need the way to access archived messages
how many channels can be in one server?
dusk sky
like 8000 i think
stone marsh
if we just had a archieve category...
dusk sky
it'd take an enormous amount of channels and look like a big mess
azure garnet
we need the way to access archived messages
it could be via another version role, but instead of channel, it opens archive category
stone marsh
get out, its terrible ideas here
dusk sky
optional roles aren't as great of a solution as they might seem
it's like removing railing from a bridge
of course people wouldn't just walk off of the bridge and fall into the water would they?
pastel pagoda
make a water fountain secret (it has infinite dew)
wintry tendon
Change warrior's seal into cloak of viscosity, which becomes his default armor
solid hinge
Descending on stairs has 1% chance to instakill you, because you wasn't careful enough, and fallen right through entire thing breaking all bones possible
stone marsh
over all the floors, i believe there is a 77% chance that you survive
dry canopy
So nethack
strong quartz
~~Just a reference of shiren~~
Onigiri Trap, except nowhere near as dangerous.
Those can be INSANELY dangerous
You step on one while there's something like a Sky Dragon or Ornery Tank is in the room and you die.
Instantly.
strong quartz
aw hell nah
pixel dungeon snowgrave route
Nah, it's FFX Petrification.
marble tundra
Warden can no longer see through tall grass cuz how the fuck do u see through tall grass
Game now automatically goes to the next turn if u don’t do anything for 1s
pearl girder
Nerf huntress until her post-sewers 9ch winrate is similar to warrior
runic granite
remove rogue
teal moss
Hmm. You really want him gone lol
tawny pawn
he just didnt use rogue as much
strong quartz
Give his cloak to the item pool
Allow it to be transmutted into
neon spindle
Add back rogue
gritty nova
Add back rogue
a terrible idea indeed
maiden lily
Remove everything but Rogue
tawny pawn
aight, lets make two new games: one without rogue, and one with only rogue
neon spindle
grizzled flame
New subclasses for each hero
These subclasses are meant to oppose the class' usual focus
Warrior --> the coward (cant wear armor and gets move and atk speed bonuses depending on how low his hp is)
Mage --> the dimwit (cant use wands and breaks them for bonuses instead)
Rogue --> the reckless (cloak becomes unusable, but the rogue can automatically consume charges when taking dmg to reduce it by a %. Cannot use ranged weps or wands)
Huntress --> the purist (cant use ranged weps or wands, bow becomes a special wooden melee wep that can eat other weps (and wands) to gain some of their properties.)
wintry tendon
Add trees
gritty nova
Challenge: Shadow Damage
All damage dealt will be converted to deferred damage.
Deferred damage cannot exceed current health.
verbal topaz
5000 here we come
this thing is more active than half of the mod channels
it should be a channel imho
azure garnet
this thing is more active than half of the mod channels
that's because it acts as #casual and #1013833905582899310 at the same time
and there is no quality control
teal moss
People love some casual non-serious discussion
verbal topaz
and there is no quality control
thankfully
plain hemlock
Casual shitpost ideas.
sharp parcel
Deathgazes proc instantly and blind/cripple the player (they're searing beams of demon magic bro)
grizzled flame
deathgazes have a 10% chance to erase ur savefile
bcuz they disintegrate the saved data fro ur device
from*
dusk sky
should i delete ideas that aren't terrible enough
grizzled flame
Nah
Bcuz the most terrible idea is allowing any ideas here in the firdt placr
Having 0 curation for terrible ideas is, in itself, a terrible idea
feral fractal
deathgaze destroys your armor cause deathgaze
sharp parcel
Add a motivator that forces you to move further into the dungeon after a set # of turns
Like an invulnerable animated statue with constant mind vision
feral fractal
smells like persona
dusk sky
it's pretty annoying when people come here with regular ideas like "omg xddd my idea sucks so bad… it's such a shitpost ahaha *writes a 50 paragraph essay*"
feral fractal
so anyway here's my 50 paragraph essay
sharp parcel
@dusk sky
dusk sky
this is no place for self-deprecation
azure garnet
then make rules for this place
grizzled flame
literally 1984
azure garnet
then make rules for this place
you said "the worst you can think of" in first post
dusk sky
then make rules for this place
if i made no self-deprecation a rule you'd be the first one to get banned
azure garnet
if you believe than this thread is only for literally stupid ideas, then this should be clear
either in pins or title post
azure garnet
~~if i made no self-deprecation a rule you'd be the first one to get banned~~
but I don't dump 50 paragraph texts in this thread