looking for a workshop collection of as many region mods as possible

[lyric sluice]

i've been driving myself crazy for the past 3 hours trying to stitch together 180+ region mods (mostly taken from the mods wiki) and i have absolutely no idea where the incompatibilities are because the game goes through the intro video, and then hangs on a black screen.
modlist if you want to try to figure it out:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3704330416
if anyone's got a modlist of just regions and their dependencies that works, i will absolutely take it

[noble quest]

;allthelogs

[obsidian dragon]

Close the game and upload all of the following, if they exist. Paths with a standard Steam installation provided:

• 'exceptionLog.txt' - Inform if it does not exist. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\
• 'consoleLog.txt' C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\
• 'LogOutput.log' C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\BepInEx\
• 'crsLog.txt' - Only appears if you have Custom Regions Support installed & enabled. C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Rain World\RainWorld_Data\StreamingAssets\
  To send the files, drag and drop them into the Discord window. Do not copy and paste the contents of the files.

[noble quest]

if you can send these logs after recreating the error i should be able to figure it out

hmm. the only cat with an intro is surv and gourm ... maybe you got hit by load order edge case

[lyric sluice]

I mean the intro video before the main menu, I'll send logs in a few minutes

[noble quest]

oh i see, in that case its more likely to be an issue with a non-region mod (which i can still help with)

[noble quest]

[noble quest]

IteratorKit is deprecated, as is Memory Kit

Rain Meadow and XuanZeBuFeng's Random Code Stuff throw an error because Slugbase isn't enabled

Rain Meadow also throws an error because BeastMaster isn't enabled

NGI (Cliffside by Parageist, I think?) and XuanZeBuFeng's Random Code Stuff throw an error because you don't have Chasing Wind enabled

i would guess that the rain meadow + XZBF RCS slugbase errors are the cause of the issue, given that they take up the vast majority of the log

[lyric sluice]

alright i'm gonna unsub from everything and then resub and try these

ok so the thing is

i do have slugbase and chasing wind

[noble quest]

can you send StreamingAssets/EnabledMods.txt?

[lyric sluice]

one sec testing after disabling the deprecated ones

i might have to move around the load order to make these dependencies go above the ones they're changing

[noble quest]

try pasting the following lines into it then reopening the game?
[WORKSHOP]E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\workshop\content\312520\2933196558 [WORKSHOP]E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\workshop\content\312520\3232063592

[lyric sluice]

redoing from the in-game menu right now but i'll try this if it does the same thing again

[lyric sluice]

is there any faster way to move load orders around because i'm getting sick of clicking a tiny button 100+ times for these mods

[noble quest]

as far as i'm aware no, but load order also shouldn't impact this

[lyric sluice]

well the issue was mods not seeing their dependencies right?

even though they were enabled

[noble quest]

that's not impacted by load order

(dependencies will always load below mods they depend on, because they need to load first anyway)

[lyric sluice]

ahuh

so why is it throwing errors for mods that aren't dependencies

[noble quest]

i would assume it has a compatibility patch for those mods

[lyric sluice]

makes sense

[noble quest]

the slugbase one does really look like a dependency error tho ...

[noble quest]

did you end up trying this?

[lyric sluice]

well by god it loaded

[lyric sluice]

didn't need to

[lyric sluice]

i moved this one all the way to the bottom

and i think that's what did it

[lyric sluice]

ok so now the game gets through the intro cutscene (i'm playing survivor) and then drops to 1 fps on a white screen

[noble quest]

could you send the logs again?

[noble quest]

can you send Rain World/RainWorld_Data/StreamingAssets/mergedmods/world/regions.txt?

[lyric sluice]

well i see right off the bat that one of them is undefined

is there an easy way to figure out what that one is?

[noble quest]

possibly

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3552276389&searchtext=gelbi+silly+lib can you install + enable this mod, then in its remix menu settings, press "Log modify defs" and then send Rain World/customLogs/gslLog.txt?

[noble quest]

disable Marked-block Sector

[lyric sluice]

alright

it has been loading for the past 10 minutes

at least there's no white screen

i can imagine that this could be a memory limit since it looks like the game is 32 bit but i could be wrong

it isn't pushing 4 gb exactly but it's close

[noble quest]

the game should be 64 bit since the watcher release

[noble quest]

this is likely an issue, pls send logs again

one day we will be free from sending logs but not today

[noble quest]

oh thank god it's just this issue

[lyric sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[noble quest]

expanded outskirts should be below more slugcats in the load order

hm hang on

[noble quest]

instead of fucking with the remix menu, paste this file into Rain World/RainWorld_Data/StreamingAssets/mods/moreslugcats

[lyric sluice]

also i don't wanna bring up ANOTHER problem but just a question: do you know if preservatory works on the newest version? i'm seeing mixed messages from the steam page

[noble quest]

it's unlikely, since it has custom code and hasn't been updated for latest yet

[lyric sluice]

gotcha

[noble quest]

but i would imagine it'd only cause issues trying to load the region, it shouldn't cause issues loading other regions

[lyric sluice]

it was causing problems when i tried this a month ago

alright i'm gonna wait 5 minutes before assuming this is another issue

it has been more than 5 minutes

i'm going to do the load order in the remix menu manually and see if that changes anything

ok it was already down there

probably from the thing you sent

[noble quest]

oh okay

so it's the same exception, but it has a different cause

[noble quest]

try disabling Dark Pipework?

i haven't looked at all the errors in crslog yet but this one is the most problematic

[lyric sluice]

there's more than one?

[noble quest]

there's a bunch of non-fatal errors where connections between rooms are broken in some way (like, a01 connects to a02 but a02 doesn't connect back to a01, stuff like that)

with the exception you have, some of these could be causative of the error

so, i gotta look at all of em

[lyric sluice]

IT WORKS!

[noble quest]

WOOOOO

[lyric sluice]

thank you very much kind stranger

[noble quest]

this probably won't end up being fatal, but a bunch of your region mods are eating each other's connections

like, Derelict Installation seems to have eaten Floating Isles' and Outer Outskirts' connection to SU_A17

(even though we have a whole spreadsheet to prevent conflicts like this ... but whatever)

let me know if you have any more issues!

[lyric sluice]

so are these 3 incompatible with each other or is it like i can enable floating isles and outer outskirts but not derelict installation

[noble quest]

they're mutually "incompatible", as in you'd only be able to access one of them from outskirts, but your game should remain loadable

there's ways to fix it but it's really complicated and annoying

actually this is one of the things that floodgate got made for, isn't it

maybe the floodgate dev would be able to patch it

[lyric sluice]

outer outskirts is the only one with no other connections to other vanilla regions, do you think load order would affect which one gets the connection?

[noble quest]

yeah, the one on top should get the connection

well, it can depend on how their modify file works .. but on top is generally a good bet

[lyric sluice]

okay i'll try moving it around then

is that the only one or is another one doing the same thing

in like a different place or something

[noble quest]

i believe the only other one in outskirts is Western Intake and Underbelly, conflicting over SU_A32

... also somehow one of the tutorial rooms got disconnected ??

apparently by sunlit power plant ???

[lyric sluice]

oh yeah i saw that when i was looking in the dev tools map view

[noble quest]

wh no

sunlit power plant doesn't even connect to outskirts

who did this ..

also, if it's not sunlit power plant, that would mean you have two regions with the same acronym, which means trying to enter either of them will freeze your game

perhaps the mod called Simple Parkour uses the region acronym SP

[lyric sluice]

alright i'll get rid of that one

[noble quest]

also, this is the first image on the workshop page for it, lmao

[lyric sluice]

oh so it's just that room

so wait is sunlit power plant broken by simple parkour then

[noble quest]

yeah

[lyric sluice]

alright

for future reference so i don't forget and i can add to a description:
place outer outskirts above derelict installation and floating isles
place western intake above underbelly
place expanded outskirts below more slugcats
place slugbase below everything else

also i think it might be steam collections being weird but i got 2 mods which are now unlisted and just appear as numbers on the remix menu

[noble quest]

bwuh

[lyric sluice]

i disabled them for safety

[noble quest]

it's usually fine, just means they don't have a modinfo

mostly it's dms skins

[lyric sluice]

well one of them was burgerking and i saw that one was broken somehow

[noble quest]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\312520\ <-- you can go here to find your workshop files - the folders are named with the mods' workshop ID. that's what the numbers in the remix menu are, if there's no modinfo it uses the name of the folder as the mod's name and ID

if you feel like it you can edit this template modinfo and put it into the folder, but it is probably better to disable them

[lyric sluice]

i don't feel like making more work for myself so i'm just gonna keep them disabled and when i give the collection to someone else i'll see if they get those mods

[noble quest]

@astral aurora apologies if you dislike pings for this sort of thing, but i remembered you said one of the reasons you made floodgate was to fix incompatible regions

the following regions are incompatible because of connection conflicts:
Derelict Installation, Floating Isles, and Outer Outskirts (conflicting over SU_A17)
Western Intake, Underbelly (conflicting over SU_A32)

[lyric sluice]

it's still technically possible to access all of the regions with this load order it's just that the outskirts gates probably cause problems if you go through them

[astral aurora]

thank you for letting me know
and the pings are okay

[lyric sluice]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3704855548
modpack if anyone else comes across this and wants to play it

[lyric sluice]

it immediately crashes when trying to host meadow multiplayer

this was totally expectedd

but here's the logs anyway if it's somehow fixable

[noble quest]

duplicate acronym SC, ill figure out which mods are incompat in the morning

[lyric sluice]

seems like sacred garden and storage compartments have the same acryonym but why does it only crash multiplayer?

[noble quest]

i would assume rain meadow gets some data about regions while loading, and it exploded and died trying to do that

[lyric sluice]

after testing, turns out that even with a modified load order derelict installation still gets the connection

[teal stone]

that's strange, I do not remember adding anything related to SU_A17 into Outer Outskirts

[noble quest]

it's conflicting because SU_PQ02 is between b12 and a17 ... . .. pq isn't outer outskirts it's the other one. that i forgot to look up the name of

corroded passage

that's my bad lmao

[teal stone]

oh, np

[astral aurora]

wait how many mods connects to SU_A17?