When the game first launched it ran just fine on my HDD, but as it's been updated it's started to run worse, and it really makes me regret spending $100, to put this in perspective, I get only 54FPS, but the game stutters every second making it damn near unplayable.
#For the love of god fix the performance on HDDs.
ripe tulip
When it's not stuttering it's around 60FPS, but the problem is that it's stuttering far too often.
rose drum
Install the game on an SSD bruh
ripe tulip
Install the game on an SSD bruh
That's cool and all, but I only have HDDs.
I have a 1TB HDD as a boot drive, and a 2TB HDD as a game drive, you do realize how stupid it is to tell someone to get an entirely different form of storage for a game? Especially when the game use to run just fine on HDDs at launch but this clown-ass company can't even fix the performance on HDDs to the state it was in at launch.
I'm getting an SSD soon, but it's still stupid that a AAA game struggles on HDDs when there's still a decent chunk of people using HDDs for entire systems, not as many as there used to be, but there still are some like me.
rose drum
The only solution is to get an SSD, modifying the game to run better on HDDs means they have to lower texture resolutions, render distance, the amount of AIs etc... HDDs are just too slow for modern games
ripe tulip
The only solution is to get an SSD, modifying the game to run better on HDDs mea...
"HDDs are just too slow for modern games.", that's quite funny to say because there are games that are still being released on last-gen consoles without any issues, not a lot of them, but there are some.
Also, as I said awhile ago it's running worse than it used to at launch, so there's no fucking excuse.
rose drum
Bro you said you will get an SSD soon, just wait for it
ripe tulip
I don't even care that I'm getting an SSD soon, they've made the game worse off for HDD users.
It's the principle of the situation of it running like shit on HDDs compared to launch.
rose drum
They won't gonna downgrade the game just because some people stuck with their decade old HDDs
ripe tulip
They won't gonna downgrade the game just because some people stuck with their de...
By that logic they should just entirely abandon the last gen consoles.
rose drum
By that logic they should just entirely abandon the last gen consoles.
Yes they should
Like CDPR did
ripe tulip
Also, I could play it on my steam deck if I want to avoid the stutters, but I don't want to because it runs below 60FPS, and in Dying Light 2 anything below 60FPS is unplayable imo.
If you don't see anything wrong with the fact that a handheld runs the game better than a PC in frame-stability then I don't know what your logic is.
rose drum
If you don't see anything wrong with the fact that a handheld runs the game bett...
Cause that handheld has an SSD 
ripe tulip
Cause that handheld has an SSD <:RisitasLaugh:656242228917698590>
The issue I have with the performance is that it's only gotten bad these last couple updates, and if I want to even avoid stutters I have to lower all settings to the lowest, including resolution.
Another thing is that maybe the devs shouldn't put an HDD as the minimum requirement, because it implies that it will at least run in a playable state.
In case you forgot about the min requirements.
rose drum
Yeah... that was the minimum requirement for the LAUNCH version of the game
ripe tulip
Yeah... that was the minimum requirement for the LAUNCH version of the game
They didn't release an updated version, and everything else has stayed the same, even the visuals haven't been improved, so there's no excuse, and if they don't want to mislead people they should update it, or they can continue going down the path of being a shit company that's dishonest.
rose drum
They didn't release an updated version, and everything else has stayed the same,...
Bro... they improved the visuals a lot, they introduced a draw distance slider, improved shadows and lighting etc... check the patch notes
ripe tulip
Bro... they improved the visuals a lot, they introduced a draw distance slider, ...
Then explain why there is no real noticeable difference?
rose drum
still cape
buy ssd i had the same issue
ripe tulip
buy ssd i had the same issue
There are plenty of people that can't afford an SSD, I can but that's not the point, it runs worse than it did at launch and I find it stupid that I should have to install it on an SSD just to get playable performance when the minimum fucking states it can run with an HDD.
fathom root
Yep, it states. 1080p30fps on hdd. So you get50-60 with stutters that is 30fps. Second of all, consoles have way lower graphics quality, if you cant see that, not our fault. So those games on console run fine. Also, more and more ppl buy ssds for their games. In my friends circle there is not a single person without an ssd for AAA games. You can get a 1tb ssd for 40$ used.
ripe tulip
Yep, it states. 1080p30fps on hdd. So you get50-60 with stutters that is 30fps. ...
Also, the issue I had with the game was that it wasn't even actually 30FPS feeling because it was stuttering hard, it was stutters that were at least 100ms.
Also, I have an SSD now.
The game still runs like shit.
The devs fucking suck at optimization.
50FPS at low 1080p in the current area I'm in.
sonic falcon
Bro... they improved the visuals a lot, they introduced a draw distance slider, ...
I noticed that. On high preset, On gtx 1660 Ti I run the game at 60 FPS. SSD definetely helps.
sonic falcon
The game still runs like shit.
Maybe your windows has some probs?
ripe tulip
Maybe your windows has some probs?
It doesn't, literally no issues in other games.
sonic falcon
what “other games?”
ripe tulip
God of War 1080p medium settings = 60FPS
Both Marvel Spider-Man games at medium = 70FPS
No Man's Sky Enhanced Settings = 80FPS
sonic falcon
Also what is your graphics card?
sonic falcon
On high preset, FSR 2 quality, I get 60 FPS on Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 Ti
I just set the game on high preset and left it the way it was
And I am currently happy how the game runs.
ripe tulip
On high preset, FSR 2 quality, I get 60 FPS on Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 Ti
I use very low and still get 50FPS, it's a very odd situation as if it was a CPU bottleneck FSR Ultra Quality wouldn't correct it, but it does which, oh wait my overclock might be fucking it up.
Hm, my overclock and fan curve has been disabled, I don't remember doing that unless I never set it up on my current windows installation.
sonic falcon
Yeah that is why I said - there could be some problem in your windows/system. Cause I have almost like your specs and difference should not be huge.
ripe tulip
I'm about to test with my overclocked settings.
Because it might've been a combination of thermal throttling with no fan curve, and low clocks because of that.
sonic falcon
Yeah good luck.
ripe tulip
The card I have goes up to 64% fan speed without a user fan curve.
sonic falcon
I don’t even overclock my PC everything is set the way I bought it
2 years ago
Cause I am afraid I will mess it up and I probably will
ripe tulip
I made mine.
ripe tulip
With the overclock I now get 60FPS at very low.
ripe tulip
It goes amazingly with Ryzen 5 3600
Ehhh, I'd still recommend upgrading it at some point because the 3600 will bottleneck a 3060 Ti, not by a lot, but it still will.
sonic falcon
I don’t think so. I have heard and read so many times it is perfect combination. I don’t think bottleneck will occur.
ripe tulip
In some games it will be a bottleneck, mainly CPU intensive games.
sonic falcon
Hmm from my research it does not, but oh well
ripe tulip
It doesn't by a lot, but if you search up Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered benchmarks you will see in that game you will have a CPU bottleneck, but that's even if you end up playing that game.
Even then it'd be fine for 60+FPS, just not things like 80-90FPS in the open world.
ripe tulip
I got a 165Hz monitor, and I can tell you that if you don't want 60FPS to be mostly ruined for you do not go high refresh rate, it feels great but then you will be tempted to upgrade just to hit a framerate that is closer to your refresh rate.
The monitor is part of the reason why I don't like the feeling of 50FPS anymore.
sonic falcon
I see. yeah I will stick to 60
ripe tulip
However, if you do want to upgrade at some point go with a monitor that has either VRR or Freesync Premium/Gsync.
Because it won't feel as bad, it'll still feel pretty bad, but it'll make it stay playable.
wicked hornet
HDD becoming obsolete go upgrade to SSD , its the best item you can buy and is worth every penny
fathom root
A 2600 and rx 580 at 50-60 seems reasonable. Ram speed matters too.
ripe tulip
HDD becoming obsolete go upgrade to SSD , its the best item you can buy and is w...
Dude I have an SSD, you're replying to an outdated post.
ripe tulip
A 2600 and rx 580 at 50-60 seems reasonable. Ram speed matters too.
3200Mhz.
fathom root
That is mediocre, it is okay.
wicked hornet
Dude I have an SSD, you're replying to an outdated post.
so u upgraded like 5 days ago haha, then ur problem to the love of god for the HDD's are fixed since u upgraded to SSD now 😉
wicked hornet
I got a 165Hz monitor, and I can tell you that if you don't want 60FPS to be mos...
165Hz monitor wasted to a barely 60 fps gameplay
maybe u should upgrade ur pc so u can atleast get more from that 165hz monitor and stop the HDD hate when it is a decade old technology playing a Latest Game
fathom root
He is not wrong, but to get 160+fps in dl2 he'd need a 3080ti. Not everyone can afford that.
wicked hornet
He is not wrong, but to get 160+fps in dl2 he'd need a 3080ti. Not everyone can ...
nah, not necessarily 160+ fps but get atleast 100 or even 80-90 with that monitor setup
ripe tulip
maybe u should upgrade ur pc so u can atleast get more from that 165hz monitor a...
I don't hate HDDs, I hate this game's loading optimization.
fathom root
Lemme tell ya, that are other games out there that perform worse on hdd.
rose drum
Avarage HDD enjoyer 
ripe tulip
Lemme tell ya, that are other games out there that perform worse on hdd.
There are also a shit ton that perform better than DL2 on HDD.
The Spider-Man games on PC benefit from SSDs extremely, but they aren't stuttery to the point of unplayability on an HDD.
Also, I have 3TBs of Hard-Disk storage, and 1TB of Solid State storage.
ripe tulip
maybe u should upgrade ur pc so u can atleast get more from that 165hz monitor a...
Also, I only care about around 90FPS, that's when it starts to be really playable for me.
naive bear
Companies have made paying for things harder because they don't accept cheques. Adapt or die, mate. Your call.