but switch from xbox to pc is justa lil hard
#🧬︱bethezombie
arctic light
vocal cosmos
Damn. Well, if you ever do get live again, feel free to hmu. I'm normally always down
vocal cosmos
Hopefully I'll see you soon dude 👍
arctic light
but i have to tell that am still rusty xD
btw that remind me... on xbox well maybe in ps4 too. there is a combo that allow u to claw double in less than 1sec right ?
carmine solar
Tendril Claw animation cancel yeah
arctic light
yea i never make it work :c
bronze patrol
@vocal cosmos Hank J. And myself are working on a guide for hunter. Planning on publishing it by the end of the week.
arctic light
i wonder how ppl do to hit with the crossbow with a long distance between the hunter ? o .o
bronze patrol
It just takes practice, good aim, and good prediction @arctic light
The hunter is usually safe after being 50 meters away but sometimes the bolt still goes past that point (rarely)
carmine solar
Doesnt it despawn after 45m or am I thinking of the wrong game
bronze patrol
its 50 meters
carmine solar
50m despawn?
bronze patrol
Yup. It just disappears after 50m
so if hunter was 51m away, and human shot a bolt, the bolt would go through the hunter on his screen and do no damage
since the cutoff is 50m
arctic light
even on pc ?
bronze patrol
Yup
there is the rare occasion that it will go farther for some reason but not sure what causes it lol
I was messing around with super crane event earlier with a friend and I landed a shot that was roughly 90m away
Toxic Bolts rarely trigger the elemental on NH for me as well :v its weird
lean heart
If I remember correctly arrow goes past that distance, how come bolt doesn't?
lilac oriole
Guessing because bolt was made in the following where the map is very flat
bronze patrol
Because thats just what the game files call for @lean heart
every weapon has a set maximum distance
honest gate
@bronze patrol this might be #⭐︱general but are you part of Nightmare Plus or Noodle Men Plus?
honest gate
Oh I was just wondering
Cause Noodle Men Plus is the competitive BtZ clan
I just recently joined so I'm not totally clear on who the members are
lean heart
🤦
shy prawn
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
bronze patrol
lol
honest gate
lol guess you're not good enough
lean heart
Sorry no, I'm in Nude Men +.
honest gate
never speak to me again
bronze patrol
rip
lilac oriole
Pvp this morning as human = apex pred joins calls me a cheat for having the 250 legend level icon as he said you can't get the icon instead of levels and then 6 bolters/walkers join whom rq after getting killed once
shy prawn
lol
quiet brook
Ahhhh the casual pvp experience
Mine is like w8 for 15m for a hunter with a gucci rank of biter kick his ass, enjoy beeing called a cheater for the #4825 time the guy rq and repeat
Here and there get some apexes but most of them are crap and they insta ragequit on the 2nd death and then get invaded by kayoo and get destroyed by his insane connection speed and repeat
shy prawn
<-- crap Apex
lilac oriole
if kayoo is laggy whats xyu
bronze patrol
xyu used dropkick mods on me last time I played him lul
@lean heart pin that guide please, Hank J and I finished the updated version of his old guide
lean heart
Just edited the pinned message.
quiet brook
Xyu from now on he only plays with mods on
bronze patrol
Gay
shy prawn
Christopherus is looking for invaders 😉
plain wave
oh no
quiet brook
I would like to invade him if i had a computer available...
honest gate
just quick joined and got matched with a newbie who probably doesnt even know what i am lmao
lockpicked a police van and got a pipe
Cx
honest gate
got matched with newbie quitters twice 
another quitter, i dont even wanna play anymore
@honest gate I feel you man
time to queue for 20 minutes now
again
afk now gg
boi
shy prawn
Scared of no damn zombies
honest gate
til regular citizens are braver than crane
shy prawn
He was trained by Hank J
honest gate
lmao
honest gate
lmao
honest gate
playing as the nh is wack because i dont like killing cranes :/
honest gate
WAR discord?
shy prawn
Yep
honest gate
what's that
shy prawn
We Are Runners, it's a BTZ/pvp discord
shy prawn
👍
tidal glade
does a non apex wanne invade? :D
honest gate
What's your lvl?
honest gate
Yeah legend sorry forget that to say.
tidal glade
😅
honest gate
250? Jesus you would wipe my Arse I would say.
tidal glade
but legend lvl doesnt really do much in pvp
u need pvp experience :D
honest gate
Do you have pvp xp?
tidal glade
about 2 month
i am nowhere near the pros
but i am no noob though
average i would say
honest gate
Yeah I'm... i think lvl 10 as a Zombie or so and pretty bad. Or just not a spamming cunt I dunno.
tidal glade
XD
tidal glade
i stopped playing now, its kinda late
i was hoping to start a game faster :D
midnight here
tidal glade
but if u are still up tomorrow, we can play if u like
quiet brook
Too bad am away
honest gate
:kappa:
lilac oriole
quiet brook
Stop the tachanka memes
lilac oriole
there wraith better x3
quiet brook
Oh jeez
lilac oriole
since your vigil in PvP now
shy prawn
Can't wait til we get the pve hordes just done -_-
quiet brook
I.used to be a vigil main and isnt this offtopic?
lilac oriole
Kinda but it's still PvP really also wraith why not do btz on a laptop
lilac oriole
Me and lambo where getting unplayable matches yesterday even with max frames
quiet brook
I have a destop pc here with an i5 8gbs ram ssd but not graphics card
quiet brook
I cant play pvp with this vacations pc
lilac oriole
Hunter with infinite everything that we still nearly won against because they where aweful and then some fake apexs
honest gate
Fun fact, as well as not being able to defend against the hunter's claws while a survivor - I also am unable to actually use ground pound and tackle as the hunter
lilac oriole
Why not boost your vacation pc ?
honest gate
e.g. my attacks are all claw or pounce 
quiet brook
Congratulations
I insta gp spit tackle and sonon
I cant really add anything here and why should i
honest gate
🙁
quiet brook
I only come for vacations at the time
Later on when we move am gonna have my other potato
lilac oriole
Yeah but even adding an old graphics card from your main pc would give you an FPS boost
lilac oriole
Ahh
quiet brook
Its like an imac but with windows and much cheaper
Am gonna test r6 later on either way
lilac oriole
Worth a try
quiet brook
The gud thing is that there is a decent 50mbs connection here
lilac oriole
Lucky xD
cold python
Is it an all in one?
honest gate
🤐
honest gate
🔥
quiet brook
Hunter is 😍 🔥
lilac oriole
hunter is the bozak
lilac oriole
grim skiff
anyone human invasions?
honest gate
@tidal glade Sure, just play
tidal glade
ok
honest gate
@tidal glade are you in a Channel or just use mic?
honest gate
K
tidal glade
i dont talk
honest gate
@tidal glade So whats your Steamname?
honest gate
@lean heart No? I want to invade him as Zombie.
Thats confusing as fuck. Why would I discusse in a Channel called be the zombie? I thought Party search is for humans and btzombie for invading as zombie. Would make more sense if you look at the name.
cold python
honest gate
Well then I apologize if i'm wrong.
lean heart
No, you're good. It's really confusing.
shy prawn
I suppose you could call it Nighthunter-Chat
honest gate
Be the zombie is the name of the dlc that let you play as Zombie and invade other People. So the Chatname is totaly fine.
vocal cosmos
It's not DLC :p
plain wave
It was introduced after the games initial release I think
And then was free DLC then
So technically maybe yes?
Idk it doesn't really matter
vocal cosmos
It was supposed to be DLC for those who preordered or something, I don't know exactly. But then they just gave it to everyone at launch
lean heart
It's DLC but it's impossible to not own it since it's free.
Unless you just don't let game use internet or opt out.
plain wave
goes into game files
deletes btz
vocal cosmos
Tons of respect to @carmine solar. GG's all around
carmine solar
GG's man, close match. Massive ups
shy prawn
👏
carmine solar
@vocal cosmos also yea, it was originally intended to be a pre-order only bonus
vocal cosmos
Maybe if I had a working D-Pad, I would've had an extra life or two lmao
carmine solar
Probably, we both made a ton of mistakes lmao
vocal cosmos
Especially in the start lmao. That flare messed me up
vocal cosmos
That was stupid lmfao. That always happens to me though, I need to memorize the locations of those damn manholes
carmine solar
That last nest having zero health making me have to dive bomb you with claw spam lmfao
vocal cosmos
Whenever the Hunter does that I panic so hard, when I'm lower health anyway. And in that situation, I was lmfao. I didn't know what to do, the only thing I thought was to run the hell away
vocal cosmos
Still confused on how you got me with that UV heal smh. It never works on me, normally
carmine solar
I usually get everyone I face with it at least once
vocal cosmos
Next time I'll prevent that lmao
tranquil coyote
How does invading someone as the Volatile work? Is it first person? Can you parkour as the volatile? I've never tried, I've been invaded by children so i set it to friends only lmao
Me and my best friend have been playing the game for a good 60 hours, we cleared all missions and bounties and then we have completed 48% of the game on New Game Plus.. So is it any different playing be the zombie?
arctic light
Let me see if my English is enough...
1- yes is first person
2- not much parkour, cuz u have a better grapple (tentacles not saying the real name cuz I don’t rmb)
3- yes is a big difference playing as the zombie cuz ur objective is hunt the other players
tranquil coyote
Ah! thankyou very much for your help 😃
arctic light
What I mean is 1 to 4 players been humans . And the 5th is the zombie. As the zombie u need to kill the humans while u defend ur nests; meanwhile the humans need to destroy ur nests and care about ur hunting
tranquil coyote
Oof i never knew that! I will have to check it out 😛 I'm just sick of turning on the Online Multiplayer option to visible and getting attacked/hunted any possible chance ¬_¬ but it might be fun if the tables can turn! >:D
arctic light
Ik that feel ; -; but is really easy to get the controls on Xbox as the hunter
If u have the elite controller ufff much better xD
carmine solar
Only thing I use my paddles on the elite controller for is to cancel gp tbh.
vocal cosmos
I'm on Xbox, @tranquil coyote. I'm down to play sometime tomorrow morning, I might be playing with Oath. We might be doing Invasions, so if you're down you can join me anytime. I'm all down
tranquil coyote
@vocal cosmos I'm interested :3 What time will that be? I'm from the UK
vocal cosmos
Ohhhh that might be an issue with our times. 7-8am PST is when I get on. I think that's like midnight in your time, idfk
plain wave
@tranquil coyote I'm a bit confused you said is it any different than playing be the zombie. The mode you're describing IS be the zombie.
tranquil coyote
I just mean the GUI haha. I just wanted to know what it looks like compared to what you as Crane gets to see in Campaign mode and whether there's any parkour involved. Sorry for the confusion!
plain wave
Ah makes sense, no need to apologize mate 👍
tranquil coyote
😌 I don't want to cause any arguments, just make a bunch of cool new friends and kick some zombie arse 😛
carmine solar
@tranquil coyote
7-8am PST is about ~3-4pm GMT
vocal cosmos
Aye yo Oath, I just remembered something. Have you ever heard of the clan called Hellbounds?
carmine solar
Nope.
Only DL group I know of on Xbox is some mediocre Boss clan
They're all ultis but play about as well as you did that match
vocal cosmos
Lmao, well they were a clan for PvP on DL. PS4 only though. I tried to join, but again, PS4 only. Anyway, turns out they recently broke apart or something
carmine solar
What about? Lmao
vocal cosmos
Just inactive. The leader gave up. But this sparked my memory of something I tried to do a while back
I remember I tried to make a clan for Xbox, and well, it went as well as you'd expect
carmine solar
"Trash ulti get good kid. Fake Apex too nobody wants part of your bad clan"
vocal cosmos
Lmao, more of me and the other guy who planned it split apart creatively wise. I wouldn't be surprised if that one group you were talking about, if their leader was my old pal
carmine solar
What was his gt? I might be able to say if he kept any part of it lol
vocal cosmos
I honestly can't remember. It's been so long, maybe a year now
I think it's Killer with a bunch of X's
vocal cosmos
Hm, interesting. I do remember I use to always come across this old clan, not sure if they exist anymore, all the time. Like people with their little clan tag or whatever. They would raid me as Hunter, and I've only lost against 1 or 2 of their people. Now thinking about it, they might've been joining my game rather than pure luck
carmine solar
Probably lmao
vocal cosmos
Wonder if I pissed them off with my winning streaks lmao. I use to go days without losing a game
Now I lose every other game, doesn't matter the rank lmao
vocal cosmos
It wasn't a year, more of a few months. Maybe 6 months? Idk.
carmine solar
I said a year as just a visual example of a long time
carmine solar
I'll be glad to help you get back up there lol
vocal cosmos
Lmao, thanks buddy. Also, I found an old controller today. D-pad works! But the RB doesn't respond to a few clicks sometimes. I still think it's worth for a working D-pad though
vocal cosmos
If the spam starts I'll quickly switch controller while I'm dead lmfao
carmine solar
lol that would be an asshole move on my part
But yeah as you could tell I dont exactly try to spam
vocal cosmos
Lmao, I think it'll be fine. It only doesn't respond to like once every 20 presses. That's a rough estimate, but still worth for a working D-Pad
I won't get pounced as often
carmine solar
No more accidental flare
vocal cosmos
Exactly. And, I'll be able to switch to it when I actually need to, instead of panicking. Annnnd I'll actually be able to use my grapple hook. Not sure if you noticed, but I don't think I used my grapple hook once our game
carmine solar
Dont think so
vocal cosmos
I know I tried, but it didn't work lmao. So, if I can tomorrow, and if you can, I'll try again but with the other controller. See how I am then
vocal cosmos
Yeah, 10am for you. Also, I'm down after one game for you to join me as Survivor to play against some Hunters
carmine solar
I'm down for that just get ready for some fat losses lol
vocal cosmos
I use to be able to mad carry lmao. If everything goes according to plan, I'll carry hardcore lmfao
carmine solar
Guess we will find out tomorrow then lol
vocal cosmos
Yeah lmao
vocal cosmos
I get tons id Apexs. Well, most of the time anyway. It's just that they always leave mid-game. Not even leave, they abort so god damn much. As soon as they realize that it's gonna be a challenge, they abort
So damn annoying
carmine solar
Was I like the only decent player you've played since you started again?
vocal cosmos
I've played against harder, so against those players I player rougher and more serious. Not saying I didn't take you seriously, no offense. You're just the only decent player I've played against that actually took the loss like a man
carmine solar
Oh lmao yeah
Loss is just a way to learn and fix mistakes
If you dont lose then you most likely wont improve very fast
vocal cosmos
Exactly! No one understands that I can't express it enough! Learn from your mistakes, don't leave mid-game! Jesus, you're the only Hunter with some common sense lmao
carmine solar
If I die because I made a shitty tackle thats not their fault lmao
vocal cosmos
Lmao, exactly. There is so much a Hunter can learn if they actually finish a match. Hell, back when I was decent, I gave tips to a Hunter and let him practice and rematch with me. It's so easy to just learn from mistakes, but no one actually takes the time to practice. They just want to play against noobs because they know they will win. As soon as a Survivor knows what they're doing, they abort.
carmine solar
0 losses
vocal cosmos
Ah, of course. That's why they do it, u rite
carmine solar
Lmao
bronze patrol
Anyone up for invasions on pc?
light crest
Same question. Anybody up for a 1v1 warm up?
old mural
lean heart
No. First rank is Prey, second Casualty, third Endangered and fourth Underdog.
lean heart
But if you want Gold-tier weapons, best way of obtaining it would be playing Bozak Horde or Prison Heist.
lean heart
You can replay Bozak until trial 5, that'll give you docket every time containing 100% chance of giving you Gold-tier weapon.
Weapons you get from it depend on your Survivor and Legend skill-tree ranks, so you should level up either if you want to see different weapons.
hybrid moon
allowed to mention here and there with Dan's approval
Me and the Dying Light community I associate with are working on a balancing project for future eSports within that particular community. I/We need some more playtesters.
If you are interested to help us out, please DM me and let me know.
cold python
Please note though: if you do participate, there is the risk of being vac banned if you are not careful.
shy prawn
If you do while running the BTZ rebuild let us know so we can get ontop of it ^ no one should be getting vac banned with the Rebuild, we can work with Techland to clear accidental bans. However if it's not related with the rebuild mod specifically it may not be something we can help remove.
quiet brook
I wonder where the last playtesters go
🤔
Oh shi where did the whole "dev" team go
Got to patch that tackle spam 😂 😂
I tried it on my smurf acc with a friend we both got VAC banned istantly 
tidal glade
lol
tidal glade
@quiet brook when will u invade me? 
quiet brook
In one month
Am on vacations until September and probably move on r6 bc dying light is dead
tidal glade
oh damn
i am still noob but no full noob any longer
so i thought i would ask u
i played some r6, but dont really like it
quiet brook
I love that game
quiet brook
Dying light burned me off
lean heart
tidal glade
👍
quiet brook
Like biters 24/7 wheres the fun on flawlessing those dang noobies
tidal glade
:P
yeah, either u face apexes with 2 years experience, or noobs hunters who get nothing done
quiet brook
I remember before i left i got invaded by an apex on the 2nd death he ragequited
lean heart
I don't mind beginners as long as they're willing to learn and improve instead of accuse, start being toxic or quit.
tidal glade
lul
ez data 3 apexes
quiet brook
Data3 is offline
lean heart
Or even worse if it's apex with downloaded save.
quiet brook
Ah god
quiet brook
Idk if its just me but 90% of the apexes i fight feel like downloaded saves
hybrid moon
or they don't care for wins anymore
tidal glade
XD
quiet brook
Ive made data4s you dont need to play the smart one
tidal glade
hybrid moon
Either way, data3 goes online aswell
>
@tidal glade
tidal glade
i am highly confused
quiet brook
About what?
quiet brook
Forget it
tidal glade
🤗
quiet brook
@hybrid moon So drak is the lead-designer and you must be the one who makes the data3s
tidal glade
why do i have the feeling that u wanne start a fight with drak/killa and co? :D
hybrid moon
😦
tidal glade
ok i see xdddddd
quiet brook
Like am gonna meme the shit about it
quiet brook
Especially that part where data3 are online made my day
quiet brook
Its not a data3
Also where do you put the data3 and where do you put a data4? Renaming data3 to 4 isnt gonna work
Like this is kindergarten shit
hybrid moon
LOL clearly it does when u have enabler installed
i've already packed a data3 and has been renamed as data4 working online
playtesters are testing it
.>
quiet brook
Bc the playtesters had the iq to put it on the discroot
hybrid moon
not everyone is using that area
some are using the DW
some people have issues with DW folder some dont
quiet brook
I mean if 2 ppl have the same data3 and granded that they have removed the oe files they can test
hybrid moon
the thing is only simple at the moment rather than complicated as far as Fear had got to. I never payed attention to his stuff because my power supply is shot but should be ordering another tomorrow after 2 frickin' months.
so as far as oe files, there's no problem in the playtesting
now i gotta go back to my movies
even tho im hungry first
quiet brook
what was so fricking complicating ??????? Editing a XML file and add some better values????????????
hybrid moon
i never messed with too many things because i didn't care for. he focused on more things than i ever did when i've messed with files xd
im not as creative
for example the spit
vocal cosmos
Just found a bug that if a Human player joins midgame, it'll turn and stay daytime. I was fighting a Widow Maker, a guy joined and I instantly kicked him. When he joined I turned daytime, but normally it'll go back to night. This time it didn't and it stood day. I had Virals chasing me literally the whole match. Normal virals chasing me since it was broad daylight. Still won, but those virals messed me up a lot, considering they ignore UV
hybrid moon
XD
vocal cosmos
It was annoying, and the Hunter was spamming Survivor Sense Suppression and GPs. But since it was daylight, I saw him easily and I have good headphones so I just heard him :p
hybrid moon
Lol
Hunter uses UV block u can't see him in daylight so they can get lucky pounces there
vocal cosmos
When he used the UV block in the daylight I saw him still, in fact, the fucker blinded me. He was bright as hell
hybrid moon
I know. That's my point. Some hunters get a lucky pounce if you're not quick enough because of it being bright
vocal cosmos
You didn't say they got brighter, you just said you couldn't see them, my bad :p. Either way still wasn't hard to avoid the Hunter. It was the damn virals making it hard
hybrid moon
Meh
I'm sorry for being unclear. Watching six movies in a row made me tired and wasn't thinking how to phrase it right XD
vocal cosmos
Lmao, all good
hybrid moon
You're on what platform again?
vocal cosmos
Xbox
hybrid moon
Oof
I do think get how people can use the controller so easily when tendril sprinting around the human and jumping around them in a circle following up
It stops you rather than letting you like glide
vocal cosmos
I much rather have a keyboard and mouse, believe me
vocal cosmos
Seriously? I'll check that out then. Although I'll feel like that'll give me some kind of unfair advantage considering everyone else is still using a controller
hybrid moon
Lmao trust me you'd never know of all players use controller. The smart ones that think about PC would've tried
Tbh let me double check if keyboard and mouse hooked up to the console for dying light would legit work. I know I played a few games with m&k on my ps3
vocal cosmos
Well, I'll definitely give that thought some consideration
hybrid moon
Just double checking online if it would work @vocal cosmos if dying allows controller on PC then why not opposite amirite? But I can see why that they allowed controller. PC I think had gotten more players when it was released so some console players got PC version but kept their controller
vocal cosmos
I always thought it was because PC can just use controllers and keyboard and mouse, while console was always stuck with their controllers
hybrid moon
Mhm I know PS supports mouse and keyboard. Played terraria like that lol
But I guess it all depends on what game
vocal cosmos
Guess so. Well, thanks for enlightening my brain
lapis surge
Im real tired of the randoms i try to invade all immediately quitting, if you dont want an invasion just turn them off. Anyway does anybody want to go a round? Maybe get some glands and the like
Im not the best zombie but i want to push to my next mutation asap
carmine solar
@vocal cosmos MnK support is not yet native to the Xbox One. But it is to some games, Dying Light not being one of them.
Mouse and Keyboard on console multiplayer games is largely considered cheating
vocal cosmos
Thanks for the heads up @carmine solar
carmine solar
In order to use it with any game you need an adaptor
Of which emulates controller inputs
vocal cosmos
Is that so? Huh, alrighty then. Again, thanks
lapis surge
Anybody? It'll probly be an easy win for ya but it's still fun flying around with flesh tendrils
Im never gonna mutate
Its like if the ninja turtles were just turtles the whole time
vocal cosmos
Lmao
lapis surge
Thank you for acknowledging my bad joke ;)
shy prawn
So we've confirmed the mod's not causing vacbans.
Obvious thing was obvious, anyway. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lapis surge
I guess i shouldnt be expecting to many playstation users to be on at 4:18 am but durnit
tidal glade
let me know, if someone wanne invade me
quiet brook
Wow no shit serlock how did you uncovered such secrets
tidal glade
shy prawn
👍 ^
tidal glade
@arctic light ok add me on steam :)
arctic light
added : D
tidal glade
@arctic light ok got u :)
tidal glade
anyone wanne invade me who is from europe? :D
tidal glade
@grim skiff i did? lol
cant remember
tidal glade
yeah, too passive hunters are kinda boring..
tidal glade
playing with blaze atm
grim skiff
understood
tidal glade
so would be 2vs1 if u want
grim skiff
no problem
tidal glade
ur profile pic kinda scares me xD
grim skiff
lol
tidal glade
@grim skiff U WERE NOT BORING AT ALL
thanks for the game :)
tidal glade
@grim skiff if u want a match again sometimes, let me know :)
kind oriole
x.x
shy prawn
@grim skiff @kind oriole You guys in the WAR discord yet? x3
https://gyazo.com/32033d2e2b7ee924d674cc9083eaf0d5 It's not corlina but here's an image from one of our new maps coming out x3
shy prawn
So many techland people XD
honest gate
^_^
shy prawn
Tournament announcement! Since we will have a few maps coming up soon, I'm gonna try to setup a tournament within the next couple months here, 100$ prize purse(sorry but it's out of pocket XD) It will be team fights, normal nest missions for this tournament future tournaments will probably be other mission types. 4v1. Signups will be on Battlefy soon!
cold python
👍
shy prawn
Hey Dan wanna check out the new map sometime?
cold python
I don't have DL installed atm ^.^
shy prawn
lean heart
quiet brook
Free V-bucks
quiet brook
Still cant understand the whole concept of "tackle spam"
How hard can it be to press space bar to evade a tackle
shy prawn
Or don't like being tackled? stop fighting on straight aways
quiet brook
I mean if the hunter keeps tackling he put himself in a huge disadvantage
Adding that stamina penalty makes it even worst
shy prawn
Because we're trying actively reduce spam from both sides, a human shouldn't be able to dodge endlessly without getting tired, if you are running out of stamina you need to change your position.
Either way you backed out Wraith vs even trying it
Your voice is pretty much moot now
¯_(ツ)_/¯
quiet brook
Well the thing is if you run out of stamina you cant go anywhere you cant even grapple
shy prawn
Also blaming the mod for a vac ban when you clearly know that's not the case for character assassination
I really don't care what beads of wisdom you have
infact, let me just go ahead and block ya 😃
quiet brook
Do i look like i care?
lean heart
What's going on here ._.
quiet brook
Classic drak never accepts opinions
quiet brook
Miss me with that opinion shit
lean heart
You are adding stamina to humans in invasions from what I understand?
shy prawn
We're adding a small stamina reduction to jump/dodge
to test
Primarily to make clashes not feel like you can just infinitely dodge during them
quiet brook
Thats not the primary reasson that we left himlol
shy prawn
Keep in mind you still have periods of infinite stamina using boosters
it's not like you can never do that
vocal cosmos
I mean, after the Hunter misses a tackle, he Human can just go backward instead of running into the Hunter for an attack. Giving them time to get their stamina back. Assuming you go far enough to where the Hunter can't tackle again, but even then he needs to start running. And plus he Hunter can go flying off a cliff or something :p
shy halo
I mean why don't we just add the minecraft hunger bar at this point
grim skiff
can you go to off-topic with this
shy prawn
It's still very easy to regen stamina
vocal cosmos
It is
quiet brook
It is btz related
shy prawn
And even a 5% cost of stamina
quiet brook
Go back to your spaceshipnthen
shy halo
I mean I would like to see a minecraft bar in dl
lean heart
Honestly I wouldn't enjoy stamina in invasions, it'll encourage longer and more intense fights which honestly aren't necessary, as well as hunter just jumping around with purpose of draining opponent's stamina instead of fighting which can be annoying and counterproductive for having enjoyable match.
vocal cosmos
I've never seen a Hunter take more than 20 times in a row lmao
lean heart
But you guys know what's best for you and there's nothing wrong experimenting with things.
shy halo
yeah some people don't have that much time
shy prawn
It's more about building a true skill base on it, making sure that spammable things have a resource that they are built off of is basic pvp balancing
Thanks either way x3 but yeah
quiet brook
Yea after the 3ed missed tackle most hunters die in a 1v1
shy prawn
It's part of building this to esport level vs just party game
And either way human players can either burn down NHer energy(can't tackle when you are slow) or move to a place where it's not easy to tackle, dodge once they go flying go towards objective
making a penalty to dodge spam just makes sense imo
shy halo
I mean if you wanna reduce the ''spammy nature'' why doesn't the hunter take energy for a gp or something
vocal cosmos
So are you adding stamina to all of BTZ, or just stamina for when dodging tackles?
shy prawn
Dodging tackles is one of the places but I want to look over other parts
shy halo
keep in mind the hunter can just gp spam lol
shy prawn
Someone said that climbing takes stamina so I want to reduce/eliminate that
Climbing is a slow/dangerous action not an evasion
gritty oyster
i hate it when they do that
quiet brook
I mean if the tackle is getting nerf3d you gonna see a lot of gp spamming now lol
Gp spit
vocal cosmos
What other things are you looking to add stamina too then?
shy prawn
Mainly combat abilities, I want to rebalance the stamina loss along with the nher booster/stamina booster make the stamina booster have a point in fights if you want to keep the fight up for a long period you have to use a cooldown for it
shy halo
I mean you burn calories while standing irl, make the game realistic and take stamina for existing
@quiet brook which*
vocal cosmos
Add PVE hordes? What do you mean? @quiet brook
quiet brook
A lot of zombies
shy prawn
Wandering biter hordes
quiet brook
Roaming the area
vocal cosmos
I don't think that would work. Especially near a nest
quiet brook
They never found the correct file to change the spawnpool
shy prawn
Trapbomb/firecracker any other way to draw them away
make freezing grenade more viable
there's numerous ways to deal with it
but you have to keep attention and that's part of the point
quiet brook
Too bad they cant get it to work lol
shy halo
unless techland fixes the fire + explosive code then you can just stand on a building 50m away from the nest and kill it with no effort
shy prawn
Gandalf's actually helping us look into that right now
quiet brook
We tried around a month with 3 other well experienced guys to make it
vocal cosmos
But you're only allowed to carry 4 utility items, 2 basically are forced to be flares and UV Flashlight. Most carry the grapple hook too, making only a slot for one. That's going to be a hard choice, considering all the items you may want to have
shy halo
even better, last wish from 100m
shy prawn
We're gonna be changing the uv flashlight to a hotkey(ability) vs an item on the belt slot
give you a uv bar near your hp
it frees up at least another slot for the moment
vocal cosmos
Oh really? Now that seems interesting...
gritty oyster
very intriguing
shy prawn
Get some true fights going
vocal cosmos
That makes two free slots, and imo, could work
shy halo
what about last wish then, it pushes away virals
shy prawn
Well that and adding other uv tools
instead of a uv flare if you wanted to run around with say a UV flashbang
quiet brook
Uv flashbang
shy prawn
long range(in line of sight) instantly drops uv bar but draws zombies from far
Loud as fuck
quiet brook
What is this csgo?
shy halo
we rainbow six now
shy prawn
Or a deployable uv light you setup in a hallway/vantage point
vocal cosmos
I see... What will be the cooldown on the item?
shy prawn
Make humans feel resourceful vs just spammy
shy prawn
Dunno yet that we need to balance
gritty oyster
i'd say the cooldown be 10 seconds
shy prawn
10-15 probably
gritty oyster
just a suggestion
quiet brook
20s at least
shy prawn
Could work definitely
vocal cosmos
Because if you use it once and then a cooldown, that may not work, considering your UV light may be dead or deactivated. My suggestion, make it like flares, but 3 uses before a cool down
quiet brook
No 3 flares are too many
vocal cosmos
Unless you guys are gonna change how long it takes the Hunter to fully recover stamina
shy prawn
Maybe 2 charges but a long cooldown
like 30 seconds
Well a nher can recover stamina in 5 seconds crouching
vocal cosmos
Yeah, that's what I meant, kinda like how flares work in 1v1s
shy halo
you can use 3 flares if you time it correctly in 1v1
shy prawn
Could even tie it to the flare timer
also we are bringing back the UV light traps you have in regular nights
vocal cosmos
Yeah, see you may have to increase that time, but then that will cause some other issue. Those flashbangs idea you have are gonna take some serious tweaking
shy halo
so let's just ignore last wish
shy prawn
And they are going to be QUITE powerful because they are manual reload we're almost thinking of adding a SZ uv damage to it
gritty oyster
wish i could work with you guys but i don't have the game on pc
shy prawn
Definitely but will definitely be nice when we get it right 😃
vocal cosmos
^^ same
shy prawn
And another step closer to a true esport
shy halo
yeah my vision of esport is being 100m away from the nest using the last wish
vocal cosmos
What you guys have going on can definitely work.
honest gate
lol
shy prawn
😃 thanks!
honest gate
Sure it will work, but i wonder how many people will actually like it
shy prawn
But yeah I do want humans to be a bit more item based XD making sure they can free up the belt slots a little better, have map based traps that they can load/activate to compensate for some items
also weapon play hopefully will get a few improvements as we go
But the NHer's are based more on their abilities(toolkits)
vocal cosmos
I wish you guys the best of luck, sounds like you guys really have something going here.
gritty oyster
@honest gate I love this idea and i wish i could help out as well unless you need an artist.. just ask me and i'll design them for you
honest gate
No, i'm talking about the stamina thingy
shy prawn
x3 actually, I may be hitting you up quite soon
vocal cosmos
For what may I ask?
shy prawn
I could use an artist for drawing some of the new night hunter class concepts
gritty oyster
I would love to help you guys out with designing stuff
shy prawn
😄
honest gate
If i may say, the night hunter's skill is rather short if you want to talk about "classes".
- uv block
- 4 spits which 3 of them being used
- tackle
- ground pound
- claw
- pounce
- obvious things here
shy prawn
I have a couple concepts I've already been working on I know roughly what I want them to look like but yeah x3
gritty oyster
I'm a talented artist... studied art for three years in college
even designed my own character for Dying Light as well by using myself as a template
shy prawn
Sense suppress spit would've been fixed if it was a scream, pbaoe, sense suppress for 30 seconds everyone in that aoe
Maybe deafen them
That would have been scary as fuck
But yep K4-C we're looking over those x3
carmine solar
A major issue with the PvP in Dying light is its a 1v1-4. Its hard to balance one party to be able to compete with multiple without making it too strong in a 1v1 for example without a large amount of scaling for the most part. Possible but not easy
shy prawn
Or you could simply put in a mission giver that waits for 2-4 players for a mission
and takes those players into a different area
hardy jackal
I find the night hunter quite underperforming tbh, I've played a few games, maybe I'm really bad, but it's just crazy how people can just throw flares over flares and I barely can do anything
shy prawn
The biter hordes actually does help with that
honest gate
don't tell me theyre flare spamming lol
hardy jackal
They are.
gritty oyster
@shy prawn what about animals?
hardy jackal
I had a team of 3 that was just basically trolling me at this point
shy prawn
Later on maybe but that will require an entire model/animation set
honest gate
don't talk about flare spamming after it has been drastically changed so hard
gritty oyster
okay
hardy jackal
For real
hardy jackal
It's flare, then another UV light, then flare again, then the UV light
honest gate
can i just ask how much hours of experience do you have?
hardy jackal
While another guy just hits the nests
shy prawn
Well part of that is normal Regis
quiet brook
Well you aint fast enough then
shy prawn
you have to find openings
gritty oyster
that's something i do @hardy jackal
hardy jackal
Oof, I've played btz like 20 hours for sure
shy prawn
with the biter hordes though it should be easier to find openings
honest gate
explains it.
hardy jackal
@gritty oyster rude
gritty oyster
30 hours +
shy prawn
I'm at least 500 hours Nher total with ps4 x3
hardy jackal
Bloody hell
quiet brook
1k hours on pvpezpz
shy prawn
But I'm rusty in actual fights, most people here can kick my ass
honest gate
1 hours here 😢
gritty oyster
i target the nests while my comrades keep the Hunter busy @hardy jackal that's what i was saying
quiet brook
Noobie
hardy jackal
@gritty oyster ye, rude
gritty oyster
no i'm not :3 but i even kill the hunter myself
hardy jackal
That's why we can't have nice things
gritty oyster
killed one by sneaking up on him and dropkicked into spikes before rage-quiting
quiet brook
Its pretty simple you use your uv spits with a combo. of a fast insta gp
hardy jackal
cough lame ass people cough
gritty oyster
did rain death from above on a Biter ranked Hunter
don't think he was expecting that
hardy jackal
Hey, excuse me, that ain't possible when they camp in a closed space
quiet brook
Lmao
quiet brook
Toxic spits
gritty oyster
i'm off to buy some food for me and my mum
hardy jackal
Bring me some fooooood
carmine solar
Yeah, if they're in a small area just toxic spit
shy prawn
I can't find the old MT4 match that had it but there was one where a friggin night hunter was leaping in and out through a window like it was nothing
quiet brook
Its not hard lmao
shy prawn
That was an impressive fast paced fight x3
shy prawn
He'd tendril in, swipe/pound dodge an attack already be out the window
carmine solar
I cant do windows worth crap lol
shy prawn
then pounce in again
carmine solar
Sloppy af
hardy jackal
I'll show that it's not possible to get them
honest gate
duwd
shy prawn
Was looking at it in amazement
quiet brook
Tendril sprint?
honest gate
yea
quiet brook
Biters and ppl from consoles cant do that shit
carmine solar
Its possible to tendril sprint on console. Its just nowhere close to being optimal
Cant go sanic fast
shy prawn
x3 you can actually plug a KB&M into ps4 for tendril sprints
vocal cosmos
Tendril sprint is easy on Xbox lmao
quiet brook
Are you Pilot?
vocal cosmos
No, it's just easy lmao
quiet brook
Pc is even easier lol
shy prawn
IMO I still prefer the flying leap for actually closing in/initiating
shy prawn
Max velocity tendril > Land+sprint > Leap off side of building, done right you keep all the momentum and are silently flying towards them
quiet brook
Tendril sprint witb a combo of jumping is gucci
shy prawn
That's more of why we're doing it as a community rebuild instead of in house for Techland @tidal glade
Let them keep the bulk of their resources where they need and we can still get what we're after.
gritty oyster
plus I'm designing new Infected and I might include my design as well... depending on how I'm feeling
shy prawn
😄 yep
cold python
Make it look like this
shy prawn
That is genuinely creepy
gritty oyster
Yeah but it doesn't look like that
vernal gull
as real as much possible, where even grown ups would get scared 😄
gritty oyster
what would you say if i mentioned that it's covered in thickfur
shy prawn
😛 could be cool
cold python
Zombie trex
gritty oyster
It's a good thing I have a design for it and you'll be surprised at the backstory and origins
vocal cosmos
Just got a Gold Tier Rifle
shy prawn
👍 Nice!
vocal cosmos
Should I craft it to make it a Harran rifle?
shy prawn
I can't remember if it gains or loses
Those upgrades should just offer like a flat point upgrade ontop of what they have
gritty oyster
i think it loses
hybrid moon
Allowed semi-daily posts allowed by Dan
I need more playtesters to help out with our BTZ Rebuild. This is a big project that even Techland is curious on and is even helping out if they can. :D
If you'd like to help us on our project and big goals that we would like to get to, please DM me for more info.
~We Are Runners
vocal cosmos
I think the stats are so little though, that it doesn't matter. I just mainly want a gold tier Harran Rifle :p
Also, sorry for late reply. Playing against good NH. I won. 3 lives
Correction, 2 lives
vernal gull
om in pc and from eu 😮 but on different platform 😭
gritty oyster
i'm on the PS4 in the EU but will be losing my PSN
grim skiff
<@&469046723751313418> PVP as Humans?
zinc juniper
wrong chat m8 XD
grim skiff
btz
lost canopy
yo guys
zinc juniper
it's in party search
hybrid moon
I'm not sure if mac has online enabler. I have PC as pretty much 75% that I can think of have it for PC
So i don't know what files MAC uses
if it uses data.pak files then i guess but only offline unless another tester has the file as well
but like i said im not sure unless you give me details on the file extenstions on the files of MAC version
honest gate
🙁
hybrid moon
using steam yes?
honest gate
Yeah
hybrid moon
ok if you can get to this directory to dying light and tell me if there are data0 data1 data2 and data3 .pak files in there then i can say possibly
Steam\steamapps\common\Dying Light\DW
but then again it is a different operating system :/
whole glade
Somebody invade me please?
honest gate
strange island
I love lunging onto people
whole glade
@honest gate I did a long, long time ago. It never worked and I'm too lazy to try again
honest gate
@ebon slate @whole glade you don't need to assign roles any more if you don't want to. The roles at this point are only for people who want to be pinged when someone wants to play with their platform.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
whole glade
I don't have permission to type in there anyway.. Where exactly am I supposed to do said action?
honest gate
I don't think it really matters, tbh
@whole glade you just react with the platform you're on
ez
Also this is now #⭐︱general
tidal glade
lol i always search here for hunters
cause its the btz channel!?
makes sense, right?
vernal gull
yeah
pearl kayak
lf a hunter who can help me get gud
strange island
@pearl kayak i can on ps4
hybrid moon
@pearl kayak if I have my new power supply by tomorrow then I can help you. ;)
shy prawn
Hey guys, would you prefer to enter a pvp map fully geared or middle of the line gear and find equipment as you go?
thick galleon
both. i like going in fully geared but it'd be cool to play like that as well.
shy prawn
Would you prefer to be stocked with a good weapon or good items at the start?
For the latter option?
thick galleon
what would a good weapon be? one handed.. two handed? or would stats of the weapon matter now?
shy prawn
Stats wouldn't matter but let's say quality does
shy prawn
👍 Another thing to add to the list then
thick galleon
ez
plain wave
@honest gate It comes with experience, the first few (maybe not even few) games are annoying and a tough grind. But once you get used to the groove of things pvp becomes more fun. Outside of all the hackers obviously
I find it more fun with at least one friend too
I get too much anxiety when its 1v1 lol
honest gate
i know but like i was doing so well and then choked at the end
steam://joinlobby/239140/109775245067383624/76561198121802174
lilac oriole
Drak getting in there
shy prawn
Aroo?
hybrid moon
Beep-boop
vivid crag
Hello
shy prawn
Yo 😄
hybrid moon
Hi
vivid crag
Im new here XD
lilac oriole
Night hunter is smeegol fanfics
hybrid moon
XD
vivid crag
Rip
grim skiff
eee
vernal fjord
Yo Pete Donelly I know you're here B give me back my instant tackle
shy prawn
shy prawn
@hardy jackal One thing I am definitely looking forward to with our updates on the pve hordes being re-added... Camo for days
hardy jackal
YUSH
shy prawn
😃
shy prawn
@vernal fjord When we get the new maps 4v1 group play
shy prawn
x3 ah?
vernal fjord
I still don't know what is going on xdddd
https://youtu.be/Du-wvNqPBCM?t=1337 This is the only tournament I remember
shy prawn
I play many tournament asyms on ps4 o.o
vocal cosmos
Good to know so many people still love to abort instead of quitting and taking an L
zinc juniper
looking for night hunters
shy prawn
I dunno I consider aborts a resign so that's still a loss
fringe walrus
Does anybody have any solutions/explanation to these annoying bugs that were introduced in April?
I'm unsure if this affects XB and I'm certain PC is unaffected. For PS4 there's stuff we've been dealing with and we've notified Techland many times about these nuisances but usually get the "has been passed on to the dev team".
For us, when a hunter invades from a different map, occasionally the humans will be sent to the map the hunter is coming from, I.e Countryside to Slums, Countryside to Old Town, etc. The matchmaking isnt functional as well, a majority of the players don't appear on the scanners rendering many unable to be invaded or find invasions. Can any of you PC d00ds elaborate on this? It's been 4 months consistently closing the application from these bugs lmao
shy prawn
It's a bit harder to fix things on console due to the certification process, being that Techland is largely working on Dying Light 2 they may not have time to look over it, but if you hit up the WAR discord we can try to at least bug test and see if we can make a patch for them to push.
You'll wanna hit up Wahkah
carmine solar
I havent really seen this ever on Xbox. But it might exist. Idk
solemn patrol
not sure i'm allowed to post youtube link in here but definitely its not mine so i'm not promoting myself or w/e
lean heart
You can also post it here #473348960938098693
solemn patrol
alright
tacit comet
What does the abort mean and does it count as a lose and how to prevent getting it?
lean heart
It means someone either quit deliberately or lost internet connection / crashed, etc. Sometimes it counts as victory for you and sometimes abort.
shy prawn
Where is that reaction I don't have it T_T
hardy jackal
It's Bryan DeCharts Server lul
hardy jackal
Ye, Sony is like veeeery friendly with PC
shy prawn
I literally have nothing in my stomach and spent the last 30 minutes retching
I hate it
hardy jackal
But not so friendly with Microsoft
hardy jackal
They're basically flipping the bird on them for the fact that they did the same in the last Era of consoles
hybrid moon
Microsoft just almost killed my pc
hardy jackal
Where Xbox was like "nah we don't want to be cross playing with an inferior console"
hybrid moon
Lmao
hardy jackal
True
But something like Dying Light
That should be possible to cross play
You don't have THAT much advantage over consoles
tacit comet
Connor your mission is to kill hank
hardy jackal
hybrid moon
:p
There's always a breaking point on the newbies on PC where they try to play legit
plain wave
My first few games where I played as hunter were against people who had no clue what they were doing
hybrid moon
Xd
shy prawn
I played first on console @honest gate had the gamefly rental for 2 friggin years XD
plain wave
most of the time they wouldn't learn to use their UV until 7 deaths in
shy prawn
I do think UV reactions were easier on console
hardy jackal
Hoo Boi.. let's just not talk about that
shy prawn
Getting that snap UV when you are mid pounce
hybrid moon
Lol
hardy jackal
@shy prawn idk how the controls are on PC but on console you either have to switch through every single piece to get the UV
hybrid moon
Or learn to aim
hardy jackal
Or hold a button
hybrid moon
Git Gus so
shy prawn
After we get the new maps/balancing going I want to make a small tutorial 'course' for runners
hybrid moon
Git gud*
hardy jackal
If you're getting pierced.. you don't have enough time to get to the UV fast enough
plain wave
@honest gate Zaid's flares?
shy prawn
quick switch
hardy jackal
Isn't Hold up on the dpad like.. opening a menu?
hybrid moon
Still slower
shy prawn
Up hold is uv item
hybrid moon
PC has more advantage
shy prawn
❤ Np
hardy jackal
Know what you don't know I guess lmao
hybrid moon
For example my keybord has macro keys that I binded to my equipment slots
shy prawn
Macros aren't legal in tournament though x3 you can only get away with that as long as you're not in a live tourney Jayy
Macros aren't allowed in almost any esport tournament
WoW Arena's a special situation because that's an MMO
Macros are innate
hybrid moon
It's just a button that is a shortcut
hardy jackal
^
hybrid moon
.>
hardy jackal
Back when I had the Nacon controller
I used the back buttons for either abilities to do them quicker
shy prawn
It's a button with a list of commands x3
hardy jackal
For example if they require multiple buttons
shy prawn
Outside programming
hybrid moon
Not really
shy prawn
I still want the Razer Raiju for rocket league o.o
You can technically do that already x3
handicap controls in PS4 menu
hardy jackal
I think the Razer controller will be the next one I get
lean heart
hybrid moon
Not like you're gunna not have anyone at all have keys on left side of ur left hand for equipment slots
Or a mouse
shy prawn
@lean heart Our conversation is going a bit all over the esport scene and controllers but it's still related, do you want us to swap back and forth each time the topic changes?
I mean I don't mind, I just want to know o.o
lean heart
Keep this channel for BTZ.
cold python
No.
shy prawn
So you changed your mind?
cold python
We never gave you permission to advertise every day
shy prawn
I had Killa check with you about advertising in here
hybrid moon
?
shy prawn
What was agreed then?
hybrid moon
I asked about semi-daily. I haven't posted for a cpl days
shy prawn
Besides it's better in the dead periods of the day so it's not just immediately lost in the din of convo that will be there later today
cold python
We can do weekly to keep the spam down
shy prawn
Ok. what day?
hybrid moon
I can work with that
cold python
Sunday 🙂
shy prawn
Sure.
hybrid moon
Alright.
vocal cosmos
Yayyy, and then everyone lives happily ever after
hybrid moon
Lol