the frontend is like 95% using freemarker templates
#hangar-dev
random badger
that are generated server side
the Vue templates, are for dynamic stuff
and we'll be adding more for various forms and whatnot
uncut juniper
oh right, never heard of that lol
leaden lily
It looks like Mini's dev instance is down.
random badger
yeah, I saw
might've been 2 commits ago
shrug just have to wait for him to wake up
leaden lily
Was going to check a lighthouse report on it but even now it wouldn't be valid since there's still a ways to go
random badger
so plugin dependencies are grabbed from the plugin.yml. is having the author select valid versions of that plugin (if it exists on hangar) going too far?
random badger
ok, so lets say you've got v1.0 of Plugin A
and it depends on Plugin B
so Plugin B is in Plugin A's plugin.yml
leaden lily
People will usually specify that manually
random badger
yeah ok.
plugin authors will be able to link their dependencies on plugin.yml with a plugin on hangar, or an external link if they want a link to appear for it
narrow verge
guys be careful, dont have like all these fancy features or itll be overwhelming, i see all these fancy things that would be nice but honestly id just like a working hangar first and features second
random badger
well getting dependencies working is needed
rn, it doesn't exist
along with multi-platform support
can someone link a project with a single jar that supports multiple versions? I will need to test that out at some point. I don't know any projects off the top of my head that do that
narrow verge
serverlistplus?
leaden lily
PlaceholderAPI supports 1.7 - 1.16 in a single jar.
narrow verge
oh multiple versions or multiple platforms
random badger
platforms
multiple versions is handled
you select from a checkbox group what versions it supports (same as spigot)
random badger
does velocity have a plugin.yml equivalent?
tacit roost
yeah, a velocity-plugin.json is generated from the annotations
random badger
ah, so that'll be in the jar.
tacit roost
yep
random badger
there isn't an api-version equivalent tho right? nothing to specify which version of velocity the plugin uses/requires
ik atm there is only 1.0 and 1.1 is in beta or something
untold idol
api-version is only paper 2.0 word enough to be in spigot
random badger
ya ik, its not the end all for required version. we only use it to pre-check that checkbox when you upload a version
(if it exists)
leaden lily
Pretty sure NuVotifier has all platforms in 1 jar
random badger
yeah, looks like it. got plugin.yml, bungee.yml, and velocity-plugin.json in it
random badger
theres a config.toml
random badger
there is also an mcmod.info
untold idol
yeah forge
random badger
what is the toml one then
proud basalt
probably the plugin's itself? :p
pallid yoke
it'll improve SEO ten-fold
@uncut juniper well, not really, it's 2020, Google's crawler execute JS
Even if hangar would be a SPA, fully rendered in browser, Google would be able to index it
We tested it at work, we have pages where Vue code sets the window title and Google has no issues with that
It's really hard to get good seo advice online, as everybody knows nothing and just prays to the Google god
A co-worker on mine calls those ppl seoterical 😂
We only follow the offical Google posts and common sense, and we are placed really good in a competitive market that is insurance
random badger
hell yes. uploaded nuvotifier jar, and it detects and shows all 3 platforms
this overhaul of multi-platform stuff w/dependencies feels good
random badger
yeah, css is easy
pallid yoke
Am gonna look at how you broke staging once I get out of bed
random badger
yeah.. not sure what happened there?
I had to fix some stuff for local dev w/hangar auth, but I didn't think I changed any thing that would affect building on staging
uncut juniper
it works with google but not usually with other services that query meta tags like discord, social media, etc
random badger
but regardless, its majority ssr anyways
pallid yoke
They query head fields tho
random badger
I need to find a plugin that uses a single jar for multiple platforms and has dependencies for each of those platforms... know of any plugins that meet that description?
nuvotifier is multiple platforms, but doesn't have deps
pallid yoke
Just add them yourself I guess
random badger
ya, I guess I could
pallid yoke
I used Kenny's maintincance for testing, but that's multiple jars
barren shale
this one has all Spigot Bungee Sponge and Velocity https://github.com/KennyTV/Maintenance/releases/download/3.0/Maintenance.jar (the newer ones only Spigot + Bungee, the other 2 separate)
pallid yoke
Oh
random badger
k, nice. the dep map works as well
dependencies had to switch to a Map<Platform, List<Dependency>>
barren shale
I've now run into this problem, apparently https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5336 wtf
random badger
switch to actual linux 🙂
barren shale
>assuming a lot of likes means you found a solution
https://i.imgur.com/ftLBPHV.png
pallid yoke
I just stick to wsl1 for now
barren shale
I can't do that cuz I can only run docker with wsl2 with Win Home . _.
barren shale
does it make a difference/does cf have some super black magic going on? 😂
pallid yoke
No but it's not Google
pallid yoke
lets not touch existing migration files 😄
the files are checksummed
also, why didn't you like my banner art?
😄
ok still doesnt work
cause you moved the hstore extention somewhere
@random badger where is init.sql executed?
ah the docker image should execute it
random badger
yes.
yeah, I was having issues with the hangar user installing it
cause hangar wasn't a super user
random badger
and the banner art was barely readable lol
pallid yoke
I think staging didnt execute the sql init script, since the first init script failed
cause hangar was getting created twice
random badger
yeah, it won't execute those scripts if the db already exists
you'd have to delete the docker db volume
pallid yoke
thats what I did
random badger
oh wait, what user the the deployment docker-compose use?
random badger
oh yeah... need to change the POSTGRES_USER/PASSWORD to not be hangar
look at the other docker-compose
I just have it as user/password
cause the user gets created in that script that creates multiple dbs
random badger
oh, I missed that
pallid yoke
I let the postgres image handle it
random badger
right, but thats still gonna create the hangar user twice...
cause the create-databases.sh script creates it
random badger
oh ok. then yeah, it should work
pallid yoke
db service is updating now
Multiple database creation requested: hangar,hangarauth
huh
yeah its still wrong
now it works
barren shale
doesn't look bad at all :kappa: https://i.imgur.com/ldJifh4.png
modest forge
hangar wen @barren shale
barren shale
did an (almost) 1-liner fix already 😎
pallid yoke
restarting auth right now since it needs to recreate tables
everything is running again now
pallid yoke
yeah doesnt matter really
I noticed that too
I mean, we could add cors headers, but oh well
barren shale
sooo uhh, how would we approach the conversion, just have an inbuilt converter you copy paste stuff in, or giving the Spigot resource url for example? cuz without the actual bbcode we'd need an html->md converter, right (I don't think you can scrape the bbcode)?
and does dbo even have a site api? 🤔
random badger
I think they should paste bb code into a text area
Idk if you can access the bb code via whatever api dbo has.
Ok, so you switched it to one db user. That’s probably better. You just missed changing that in the auth portion of the docker-compose
pallid yoke
doesnt xenforo have like an api to get bbcode?
Ok, so you switched it to one db user. That’s probably better. You just missed changing that in the auth portion of the docker-compose
and ye, could be, we have so many docker stuff
random badger
You can move the create extensions back then
The issue was, that the user wasn’t guaranteed to be a super user, and only a super user can run those
But now that it’s all one user, that doesn’t matter
pallid yoke
ideally I want to consolidate the two docker things
and just have two configs
idk about others, but am fine with running the full stack locally with hangar auth and shit
random badger
yeah, its simpler now that you can just have it pull the image from gitlab
mellow pebble
I heard I'm getting cookies Mini
pallid yoke
oh you porting version creation to vue?
random badger
It’s in progress.
Simply because I have to add more dependency stuff
Like linking a project on hangar to a dependency, or providing an external link.
Will probably end up creating a markdown editor component as well.
Might have to add a loading thing tho. The vue template def takes 1/4 of a second to show up.
pallid yoke
because you do a network call in created
prolly want that async
not that I would know how that works
stray wharf
should just be a raw html page
scripts and frameworks and all that shit is for weaklings
random badger
Is there something to add to the script tag in the template to make it load earlier or something?
pallid yoke
not really, dont think so
you can add a preload to the head
or prefetch or wahtever
random badger
Also, it could be webpack that makes it a bit slower
Cause in prod, it’s a static js file that’s loaded
Rather than the webpack dev server
pallid yoke
that too
random badger
What happens if you put something inside the container you mount the vue app on? Does it get replaced?
Easy enough to throw a loading thing in there then
pallid yoke
yes, vue will replace it once loaded
random badger
That’s nice
pallid yoke
at work I just do a global loader that I remove with jquery
<div tabindex="0" aria-label="Loading" class="loader active" aria-busy="true" id="page-loader" style="display: none;"> <div class="loader-background"></div> <div class="loader-icon"> <svg viewBox="0 0 38 38" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"> <g fill="none" fill-rule="evenodd"> <g transform="translate(1 1)" stroke-width="2"> <circle stroke-opacity=".25" cx="18" cy="18" r="18"></circle> <path d="M36 18c0-9.94-8.06-18-18-18" transform="rotate(111.343 18 18)"> </path> </g> </g> </svg> </div> </div>
Window.jQuery("#page-loader").hide()
(we do weird shit at work with jquery)
thats why its window scope
flint stratus
Whats hangar?
safe harbor
An upcoming plugin repository
worthy basalt
to help explain it in simpler terms - its a replacement for Spigots Resources section @flint stratus
pallid yoke
randomly ran lighthouse on frontpage, thats not even bad considering we did not optimization https://i.imgur.com/dQ7ydKL.png
mobile obviously way worse
narrow verge
woah what site is that
narrow verge
oh
pallid yoke
I ❤️ web.dev btw
you can also see tons of shit in google search console and webmaster tools and shit
narrow verge
nice
narrow verge
mfw bootstrap takes 1.8s to get
pallid yoke
web.dev uses mobile first approach
so its throttled in bandwidth and speed
just like the new google bot btw
random badger
dat performance tho
limpid stump
narrow verge
Flushed
barren shale
nice yeah, that’s about what I had in mind for that as well
random badger
need to add the form bit to version creation to link each dependency to either a hangar project or external url
barren shale
I’d put the platform version in the same line as the name, still light gray (and keeping it smaller) tho
random badger
that'll be a comma separated list
or some other version of displaying multiple versions
if someone wants to write a way to take a list of x.xx versions and parse that into 1.1, 1.3-1.4, 1.6 or something that'd be nice
barren shale
should be fairly easy, since we already have all possible versions anyways to check against
that’ll be a comma separated list
still, I think it’d be nicer in the same line :p like ‘Paper (1.10, 1.12-1.15)’
random badger
why in the v2 api version query, is it adding 9 to the project channel color?
barren shale
lol, good question
random badger
I removed it. Cause it wasn’t gonna work with it. But ore has it. So idk
barren shale
I'd guess just some compat measure to whatever they were doing before... or something?
pallid yoke
Kek
random badger
kenny, did you ever figure out your wsl issue?
cursive kraken
why in the v2 api version query, is it adding 9 to the project channel color?
@random badger ore is magic
random badger
well the sql queries certainly are.
some of those big ones? I just hope we don't have to change anything there
and that home_projects materialiezd view... yikes
cursive kraken
like the home view? :p
random badger
yeah
cursive kraken
Thats a funny one
random badger
who wrote that one
cursive kraken
Katrix
random badger
ugh, I get headaches thinking about the headaches I would get if I tried to
barren shale
yeah I set google dns for wsl and it worked again. the docker dev-db setup didn't (doesn't?) work, but I did a bit manually and got things working
cursive kraken
I'm getting headaches when touching anything in the backend cause I don't really know scala and those queries
random badger
I didn't know any scala before starting this, but i've ended up learning some just cause I had to read it
cursive kraken
But that's why i have a katrix on my side
mortal idol
i'm getting headaches because i hate when i have "unread messages" badge so i have to read this channel knowing nothing
cursive kraken
Actually there is still magic in Ore code but if you compare it to 2 years ago, it's clean code
Katrix likely rewrote 90% of the backend
Still those 10% are interesting and we all are sometimes suprised whats in there
pallid yoke
I mean, once you know your way around it, it's not that bad I guess, for reading at least. I wouldn't want to write much code in there, but reading most locations was fine. But then there were code snippets of like 5 lines were we sat in voice chat trying to understand wtf was going on
That was fun, lol
But I mean, we still managed to have everything running I guess, most stuff we do know is stuff ore doesn't have
random badger
ugh. kinda annoyed with the css setup here
need to switch a lot of this to use the boostrap helper classes instead of, say, changing all cards to be a thing
pallid yoke
Have you looked at ores Vue branch before? It that's better?
random badger
pallid yoke
Yeah
When I initially looked at ore, they said that branch isn't in a usable state, so I used the staging branch, but now that we are in a usable state and reworking frontend, there might be stuff we can learn from
random badger
start of dependencies on version creation
on the right side will be plugin dependencies
pallid yoke
Is this like a fly out?
random badger
its a collapible secition on the version create page
pallid yoke
Ye, nice
I would maybe move the checkbox for the platform up to the button or smth, could also collapse the versions them
barren shale
I'd put the tag on the left next to the one checkbox, all of the version to its right then
see my amazing talent https://i.imgur.com/CllAK2N.png
makes it less blanky and more intuitive reading from left to right in a list
safe harbor
I'd love to see the version selector in kneny's style
random badger
ya, this is better
barren shale
nice
barren shale
they don't really have any brand color, except for the exact same tone of blue with parts of the website 😂
random badger
right, that's why Im saying someone needs some colors
so they are easily differentiable
barren shale
pick a nice light blue, light green, and keep the cyan or whatever for velocity until there's others picked
I just don't want to see that yellow anymore 
random badger
yes, I don't like it either
random badger
ok, what's the prettier print width we are settling on? cause even 120 is kinda getting annoying
random badger
really long... like I think minified files have really long lines
pallid yoke
Looking nice tho
Well I mean, how long can a line be without like scrolling and stuff
I mean, I don't really care, you can set it to 140 if you want
random badger
is there an issue with throwing a big ROUTES object on the window object globally?
so that all js can access various routes?
sly mason
ngl, at first, I thought mini was dumping screenshots
random badger
huh?
sly mason
idk why but the design/coloring of that had me thinking it was mini doing it
random badger
the checkboxes are still ugly af
idk how to make them better. maybe a darker background and then spacing between them?
sly mason
part of me wants to say a checkbox list
random badger
does checkbox list mean something other than a group of checkboxes?
sly mason
I tired brain gone, thinking like a box, with the items inside of it which is a list, where you can select the versions
random badger
Ok, bit of a conundrum here...
Is it even possible to get a client to make a sync http request and handle the redirect as it would with a response from a form submit?
Since so much more info is being provided to the publish version route, I switched it to json, but now am realizing that it won’t handle the redirect with errors appropriately now.
pallid yoke
is there an issue with throwing a big ROUTES object on the window object globally?
@random badger no, go ahead
I mean, it's what's happening right now anyways
And if payload is too big, we can still filter it down once we indentified that as a problem
Since so much more info is being provided to the publish version route, I switched it to json, but now am realizing that it won’t handle the redirect with errors appropriately now.
@random badger so you have a post, with a json body, and that returns a 200 or a 500 or smth, but with body instead of a 302 redirect?
Not sure am really following
random badger
ok, so axios, ajax don't handle 302 responses right?
only time 301/302 is handled by the browser is when it makes the request (like a form submission)
and so that's the only time the redirect w/alerts&errors will work
but you can't submit a form with json, it has to be that form type. which won't really work here
here:
look here at how the version info is passed to server: https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/multi-platform/src/main/frontend/src/CreateVersion.vue#L421
then look here how its handled. I had to go about it in a very odd way: https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/multi-platform/src/main/java/io/papermc/hangar/controller/VersionsController.java#L321
I might be missing something here...
but I don't see it
pallid yoke
I need to play with that myself
I'll soon be done with work, just finishing up a presentation for Monday
random badger
It should be almost done. Some formatting and I need to test it with an external url instead of a file.
I royally screwed up my sleep schedule yesterday cause I fell asleep at 1pm and woke up at 7pm. So I might randomly fall asleep at some point today.
pallid yoke
Take care man
random badger
man ok, why does this pattern
Pattern.compile("(?<=\\d-)\\d+$")
not match 1.13-14? it totally matches when I throw it into regexr.
(specifically match the 14 at the end)
pallid yoke
Try regex101 and test all the different regex engines it has
I don't remember which one java uses
random badger
doesn't work on the golang flavor. but it looks like that's just cause it doesnt have lookbehinds?
Pattern.compile("-\\d+").matcher("1.13-14")```
ok, this doesn't match either...something is up with the hypen right? gotta be
pallid yoke
That regex will match -14
random badger
but that should get groups right?
pallid yoke
It should return -14 for group(0) I think
random badger
well its finding no matches. im logging the matches() method after, and its false
random badger
OH, yeah I seemed to have confused those two
random badger
I read the description of matches, and thought that populated the groups
pallid yoke
random badger
k, thats a version in the version list
when I commit the logic to format the version numbers, i think someone should see if there is a better way
probably wont be used all that often, idk many plugins that support like 1.8, 1.9 and then 1.11-16 or something
narrow verge
damn plugin is 50 years old
random badger
k, and this is the dependencies view on the version page
narrow verge
nice!
random badger
and on version creation, you associate each dependency for each platform with either an external link or a project on hangar.
now I need to auto complete those values initally with the last versions so you don't have to do that everytime you upload a version
random badger
k, yeah. so if you had a previous version (either the recommended version or the last uploaded if no recommended), itll auto fill in all the dependency and platform compatiblity info that the previous version had so you don't have to enter re-enter a bunch of stuff
pallid yoke
Really nice
Mmh, idk if overkill, but we could tag deps as auto generated to be able to detect if they got removed in the new version
random badger
I mean you can get a diff of dependencies by just comparing the two versions in the database
gleaming sinew
Lmao why use vue when you can create a custom system xD. A huge community and the most popular minecraft server software using vue smh.
Oh also, where do you use jquery? I'll swap that out for babel-compat es6 for you.
random badger
lol what?
gleaming sinew
Sry I hate jQuery
random badger
yeah, getting rid of it is on our eventual to-do list
gleaming sinew
And all websites that use it. It is just >500kb or uselessness.
You should also note that sanitising strings on the front end is bad practice and as bad as not sanitising strings at all.
random badger
are we doing that?
gleaming sinew
Yes.
random badger
oh yeah, that
gleaming sinew
Assuming that the frontend is in the client folder...
random badger
like 95% of the JS is taken directly from what ore had. none of us have even touched it yet*
gleaming sinew
Oh ok. BTW I'm submitting a ton of seperate PRs as my pc setup is dead rn sry for the inconvenience.
random badger
what r u doing prs on then? 😆 pls dont say a phone 🙂
gleaming sinew
Yea.
random badger
really? dang. that just seems like a massive pain
gleaming sinew
Yeah it's fine though. It's only temporary while I setup my wifi network.
It's not that painful if you do minor things like merge functions to call others rather than duping code.
random badger
why don't you like vue tho, that was more of what my lol what was referring to?
gleaming sinew
I actually don't mind Vue as much, I just personally prefer doing good old having one template and elements in seperate HTML files, that is dynamically loaded in scripts you make yourself as vue has a lot of stuff you don't need for most projects.
That's where my Nasixjs was going until I gave up on it.
random badger
we are only using vue for maybe 10% of the frontend. mainly various forms that are pretty dynamic, and a few lists
gleaming sinew
Also what CDN are you using? It matters at this stage, for example you need cf-async tags for cloudflare etc. Plus you can save time on middleware depending on your cdn as well.
OH and also 🖕Sponge Ore code. (and even more hate for spigotmc Xenforo site)
random badger
Also what CDN are you using?
for libraries? (vue, etc)
and yeah, I knew practically nothing about scala. was a pain initially to figure out how to read it. ive never used a functional language.
gleaming sinew
for libraries? (vue, etc)
and yeah, I knew practically nothing about scala. was a pain initially to figure out how to read it. ive never used a functional language.
@random badger No for the website. Like all the assets. Not like Jsdelivr or CDNJS. For the pages, for the resource downloads etc.
It's kinda sad for me that your not using a server less system as well. (cloud functions)
I also have no experience in Java except my epic spigot plugin skids. And I also know Java is extremely not Scaleable which is kinda sad for you. Imagine if the whole of Netflix was built in Java. ⭕
(updated answer of your for libraries question as well)
random badger
oh, yeah idk. you'd have to ask mini about that. he's hosting this on his vps. everything is on there atm
(which is not where itll be in the end)
gleaming sinew
@pallid yoke You ever considered using a serverless system (cloud functions, cf workers etc.)? Even for some things it would up your scale ability a sh*t ton.
random badger
he's eu, so you prob won't get a response for a bit.
gleaming sinew
Oh yea, OK.
random badger
and the choice to use Java/Spring was mainly cause everyone in here presumably knows java. and Minidigger uses Spring for his work (big insurance company in germany iirc)
narrow verge
geico germany of course /s
random badger
also, java is a tad easier to port to from scala
and the play template format is remarkably similar to freemarker
gleaming sinew
Also has this org ever considered making something from the ground up (no forking allowed xD)? I surpose it is your fork that makes you famous 
random badger
you mean paper breaking off from spigot? yeah, that has been discussed in detail.
one of the steps in that process, is getting hangar up and running
narrow verge
We have a ton of non-fork projects
gleaming sinew
Yeah ik it's just a meme from some of the anticheat communities.
narrow verge
ah i expect nothing better from there
gleaming sinew
Lmao.
Especially now their all skids of each other xD.
Damn I can't even read...
The function you replaced does .html(), the one you removed had .val(), these are 2 separate functions.
#760946492483043342
random badger
ok, so now im working on when you create a version with an external url
now with fancy invalid messaging
gleaming sinew
Nice.
random badger
its this where vue makes things very nice
like, the version creation form is probably the most complex one we got
gleaming sinew
Potentially restyle the drop down so it's more obvious that it's a drop down
like, the version creation form is probably the most complex one we got
@random badger oh ok.
random badger
well, if you don't select it, itll auto open when you try to publish and put that red border around the whole thing
but yeah, can put a caret or something
gleaming sinew
Yeah but it looks like a button rn that's all.
random badger
well that's how bootstrap does collapses... buttons or btn-links .
gleaming sinew
Not in Material Design Bootstrap or Bootstrap 5 (not sure about bootstrap 5 but I think...)
random badger
basically what ive been going off
this is far from material design. if we were writing all of the templates, etc from scratch, I would've prefered to use materialize
but it'd be a massive project to switch since its all written already
gleaming sinew
https://v5.getbootstrap.com/docs/5.0/components/collapse/
And with Materialise same that would have been nice. Also BS5 doesn't need JQuery.
gleaming sinew
https://mdbootstrap.com/docs/vue/ looks nice as well (and may have bootstrap syntax)
wait, did 5 get fully released?
@random badger nah it's beta but I haven't noticed many issues.
Whens your release date.
random badger
I don't think there's anything set in stone
gleaming sinew
It might be out by then...
random badger
I don't think there are many things that changed in v5 that would be annoying to fix. like a week ago, I ported it to v4 from v3, and that was certainly more of a pain
gleaming sinew
This is just the bootstrap with a material look (material design skin) https://mdbootstrap.com/docs/jquery/
Same syntax, classes etc. Not many issues in my experience.
It's based on 4 but there's a 5 beta for this as well.
random badger
yeah, im down for doing that. want to hear what the others say.
but I don't think we are yet at a point where styling is as big a concern as functionality. still a good bit on the to do section of the release gh project.
going more material design would match better with papermc.io
ok, im just realizing that the decription text input on version creation is useless? the description column in the db is filled by the markdown for that version
barren shale
can you send a screenshot of the entire visible page around the platform version selector? want to comment on style :p
random badger
gleaming sinew
Is it expected to upload your code to your fork during dev or only before submitting PR?
random badger
gleaming sinew
Sry I'm planning on starting helping out with some of the styling etc once my isp has sorted my internet out.
sly mason
literally doesn't matter
gleaming sinew
Thanks.
sly mason
if you wanna commit/push often, you can; the PR will show the diff between the repo and your changes in one batch
barren shale
looks nice 😛 maybe only background colors, but I’ll have to look at those on pc. just to the “manage..” header; it kinda looks like a clickable button
or is it one?
random badger
it is
barren shale
oh okay, good
barren shale
😂
random badger
still looking for that mythical plugin that has dependencies for all three platforms
I could fake it, by making a jar with just the three config files in it I guess
barren shale
you can just add a depend to the Maintenance bungee.yml
but uh I think it should actually have SLP as soft?
random badger
oh.. its cause its softDepends instead of soft-depends
like plugin.yml
glad I caught that now
gleaming sinew
random badger
why did they change the format...
barren shale
because md69 is big brain
gleaming sinew
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/ac-negativity-spigot-1-7-1-16-sponge-bungeecord-velocity.48399/ it had spigot, bungee, velo and sponge.
random badger
does it have dependencies?
like ones it mentions in the various config files
wheres the documentation on bungee.yml?
barren shale
Spigot, just google Bungee Tutorial and you’ll find it (because Spigots nav itself sucks)
gleaming sinew
On its github...
barren shale
no it’s not?
gleaming sinew
It's file.
random badger
yeah, sure enough. its softDepend
cause you can't have a field named soft-depend I guess
well wait, its softdepend for bukkit right?
random badger
you can have a field named that
barren shale
¯_(ツ)_/¯
random badger
so... ya, who knows what the thinking was there
barren shale
probably... not at all
random badger
plugin.yml has a contributors section?
barren shale
newly added
barren shale
I would guess sharing it with another plugin
barren shale
barren shale
barren shale
random badger
random badger
barren shale
pallid yoke
@pallid yoke You ever considered using a serverless system (cloud functions, cf workers etc.)? Even for some things it would up your scale ability a sh*t ton.
@gleaming sinew see, I do drink a bunch. But even am not drunk enough to ever consider this
This project consists of tens of thousands of lines of java code, everything is full of state
Also we have server sided logging everywhere for tons of stuff
Am not really concerned about scale at all, we can just let CloudFlare cache all assets and make spring cache DB queries where needed and we will be plenty fast and can serve tens of thousands of requests easily
pallid yoke
@machine, hit me up when it's ready to test, I have a couple of hours today till I need to go to the next birthday, lol
random badger
its ready
I tested it with several plugins with varying platforms/dependencies
one thing that doesn't work in the channel creation, but that hasn't worked for a bit and doesn't have anything to do with this
there's another issue open for that
pallid yoke
Was about to ask
We also broke gitlab mirroring it seems
I got a mail
Lemme look at that first, then your branch
random badger
really? its running the tests on my pr
pallid yoke
ah its paused for auth
somebody nasty did a force push and I havent disabled protected branches 😄
ran now
Deploying 'Compose: docker'... Failed to deploy 'Compose: docker': Sorry but parent: com.intellij.execution.impl.ConsoleViewImpl[,0,0,2341x326,invalid,layout=java.awt.BorderLayout,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=,flags=9,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=] has already been disposed (see the cause for stacktrace) so the child: com.intellij.util.Alarm@21cb7aeb will never be disposed
you what intellij?
best thing, it start started, lol
random badger
lol wat
random badger
yeah, forgot about the big bits of commented out stuff
https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/multi-platform/src/main/java/io/papermc/hangar/util/StringUtils.java#L51 and take a look at this
you probably can come up with a better way
random badger
its for making 1.8, 1.9, 1.11, 1.13, 1.14, 1.15 into 1.8-9, 1.11, 1.13-15
pallid yoke
yeah, thats what I meant
idk, I wanna reserve the "parser" brain capacity today to rewrite minimessage, maybe we can change that later
but its fine for now
random badger
I wrote unit tests for it 🙂
pallid yoke
this is something that can easily be tested with unit tests
oh nice
I mean, prolly wanna precompile this pattern https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/multi-platform/src/main/java/io/papermc/hangar/util/StringUtils.java#L96
but thats about it
random badger
I had it store the formatted string in the database as well. so it really only runs once
(per set of versions)
pallid yoke
yeah dont bother then
random badger
makes for nice version cards
pallid yoke
mmh, we kinda need to tell them that they can either use a file or an url
random badger
the verison creation screen doesnt do that?
its got an select file and a enter url
pallid yoke
yeah, but its not clear that its an OR
pallid yoke
I have an idea, lemme play with it
proud basalt
err
why 1.8, 1.9 goes to 1.8-9 @random badger? that is just going to cause confusion
should be 1.8-1.9
random badger
yeah kenny poinyed that out.
proud basalt
on github I guess? don't see him here
proud basalt
ah ok
pallid yoke
thorny bane
That looks pretty clear and good to me
barren shale
yeah that looks good
pallid yoke
its your color 😛
pallid yoke
you use way too much jquery in that vue component for my liking, lol
its rather hard to understand
random badger
yeah, there are probably lots of places document.getElementById will work fine
pallid yoke
I normally control how the template renders via just variables
oh wait, this is also stuff loaded from the outside?
random badger
what stuff?
pallid yoke
currently am trying to figure out why this isnt hiding https://i.imgur.com/3ctILJk.png
random badger
its not supposed to
you are supposed to be able to change files
at least thats how it was before
random badger
oh wait, this is also stuff loaded from the outside?
wdym by this?
random badger
nice
pallid yoke
we still wanna give that dropdown a bit of design ferry dust, as one of my coworkers always says, but that can wait
random badger
design fairy dust?
yeah. im also not sure how the dropdown will handle like 25 projects with the same name
I think I gave it a max height
pallid yoke
fairy, ye
barren shale
@random badger basically just as you can do it in GH
obviously not from a project you own
random badger
Right, but why?
I understand the functionality, but not the reason why it needs to exist
random badger
is there a reason the DataValue class doesn't use generics?
random badger
oh I didnt realize that was a direct from ore thing
pallid yoke
That's the thing for plugin.yml detection, right?
random badger
yeah
just seems simpler to have DataValue<T> rather than an abstract DataValue thats extended for each needed type
random badger
we have to think about how we are gonna do localization on the frontend
maybe another big object added to window that contains all messages?
gleaming sinew
Google Translate SDK?
random badger
theres a bunch that aren't even used as well
random badger
26 kb atm
pallid yoke
But yeah, just like routes, just shove everything in for now
Can always optimize later
gleaming sinew
Welp if your manually translating how will you translate resource descriptions?
barren shale
we don't
mossy topaz
Machine Maker - you probably already know this and have an implementation that reflects it, but I just wanted to be sure: bungee plugins can use plugin.yml too, confusingly
mossy topaz
don't worry, I personally never use plugin.yml for bungee plugins
random badger
is there any way to differentiate a bungee plugin.yml from a bukkit plugin.yml?
random badger
ya, could get the main, then to go that class and see if its bungee
or well, would that work?
ugh, not gonna think about this now
that's really annoying
mossy topaz
i guess that would work but you'd need to read java bytecode, no?
untold idol
doesn't bungee use bungee.yml?
random badger
yeah, OR a plugin.yml
so you could have a waterfall-only plugin, and its gonna think its a bukkit one
mossy topaz
yep
random badger
ok, so there's gonna be a special button for this
its gonna think its paper, but then you can click this button and magically, itll transfer everything to waterfall
pallid yoke
That sounds good
mossy topaz
not possible
random badger
its one or the other?
pallid yoke
You can't have the same main class for bungee and bukkit
mossy topaz
you can only extend 1 class, and one API won't be on the classpath
random badger
right. and the .ymls have to be in the top directory?
pallid yoke
Yes
random badger
ok. good yeah, so that button should cover everything
annoying, but at least its a simple fix
pallid yoke
Be careful to also check smaller screens
random badger
its all flex
pallid yoke
Wat
Am just not a fan of buzzword bullshit bingo
Cool
It's shit, I wrote ton of it
Lol
But it runs and it's maintainable, so who cares
Heck, we even have a hand full unit tests 😂
I do use sonarlint locally
Sonarlint doesn't make you write clean code
It is able to pick up common bugs and issues and stuff, but it can't see the big picture
We use eslint with prettier
Idk what you on about
random badger
pallid yoke
Could use a few margins on the checkboxes and under the channel thing, but layout looks nice
I mean, it would be cool if the input labels had the same length so that the input text is aligned
random badger
who's gonna upload a version on a screen that small?
modest forge
"microservices are the f u t u r e"
soft hornet
I personally think the center alignment of those fields is visually frustrating
random badger
actually, only the smallest one has center alignment
the others just take up the full screen
oh wait, the medium one channel input is also center aligned
modest forge
On medium and large, imo unstable and recommended should be on the same line as the channel (since they're related to the status/stability of the version) and forum post should be visually separated (maybe under the text box and without the field layout)?
random badger
why does forum post need to be separated?
(ill also make the bg the channel color)
modest forge
It's distinct from the actual status of the version; unlike the others it only controls the announcement of the version
pallid yoke
I still want a 5 or 10px left margin on the checkbox, it's too close to the label ^^
random badger
right
pallid yoke
And I think I kinda agree with mbax, it doesn't look as tidy I would say
random badger
really? on the large size (which is really xl) everything on two rows looks nice to me
pallid yoke
Idk, I think it's that nothing is aligned which makes me feel that way
Idk, I need to get some sleep, I'll give it a closer look tomorrow
modest forge
Maybe if you move forums post, make the outer container of channel/unstable/recommended the same width as the row above, then make channel stretch to fill that row
random badger
random badger
@gleaming sinew narrow that issue down to just creating a gh action for deployment. the other stuff already have issues open for them.
we don't want to get into too much stuff specific to one repo hosting site. some people use gitlab, bit bucket, and we aren't gonna implement stuff for each of them.
its much simpler to just provide a link to wherever the source is hosted.
barren shale
sly mason
That was my fear too, basically the whole OTT integration against gh
Not to mention, stuff like auto-syncing stuff like readme's requires a way to know when it changed, the webhooks will cover commits, etc, already, but, no idea how clean it would be to actually pull those files without cross coupling there, which would be wanted across the board
barren shale
as for actions/dev builds, we wouldn't want to spam version releases (with or without notifications) anyways, so those should be set as a static link to like jenkins, done manually, or with gh pre releases
barren shale
random badger
the pages are already markdown?
misty mountain
it supports only markdown
that modal seems to just be bb -> md
rst?
mooost likely unsupported for hangar
nobody willingly uses that anyways
mellow pebble
Mini your Building doc sux
pallid yoke
chances are they are not even written by me, pretty sure I didnt add the auth stuff 😄
but if you have sisues we might be able to assist
mellow pebble
Na apparently its docker on wsl2 thats bad :C
random badger
kenny was having some issues w/that iirc
sly mason
it's one of those "it works, but when it breaks, GLHF"
random badger
the docker setup can probably be made to be a bit simpler to setup, now that you can just use the image from gitlab, the one in the deployment/docker-compose.yml
modest forge
I got it working ages ago but all the docker stuff has changed since then
probably gonna do a fresh clone lol
random badger
yeah atm, just make sure HangarAuth and Hangar are siblings in your file system.
ebon adder
May be a bit late to mention this, but you guys definitely should have used Nuxt for this instead of standalone Vue.
pallid yoke
not really
this is mostly server rendered via freemarker
and we inherited the frontend, we didnt write it from scratch
ebon adder
How do I run it?
barren shale
read the IGNOREME.md
ebon adder
The README just mentions building
modest forge
docker-compose up -d builds the services and then runs them
narrow verge
-bash: dockor-compose: command not found re
nvm it's a different package
ERROR:
Can't find a suitable configuration file in this directory or any
parent. Are you in the right directory?
Supported filenames: docker-compose.yml, docker-compose.yaml```
oh wellHow does one get around "CSRF verification failed. Request aborted."?
narrow verge
are your cookies enabled
ebon adder
You mean on my browser?
narrow verge
ye
ebon adder
Yeah
narrow verge
usually i get that when my cookies arent enabled for whatever reason
ebon adder
Weird, works on Firefox
sly mason
some browsers are more strict on cross site stuff
It all boils down to "why did it fail", generally down to headers, etc
pallid yoke
We handle csrf tho
Spring writes a token into the window object and we then tell axios or jQuery to use it
narrow verge
is that a cookie or?
pallid yoke
Nah, a header
narrow verge
ah
ebon adder
How can I login? I tried to create an account but the email didn't come through to either my local mailbox or Spam on Gmail
pallid yoke
On local?
ebon adder
Yeah
narrow verge
im only familiar with rails, which stores the crsf as a post param i think and compares it to one of your cookies i believe?
also signing up probably wont work since you need mail server?
pallid yoke
I don't know the port, but there is an application you access in your browser to receive the mail
ebon adder
Oh right
pallid yoke
Check the compose file for the mail thingy it should mention the port
It's a "fake" mail server
narrow verge
tried to run docker-compose and got a massive stack trace, gg
main lava
ensure you have docker.app running
docker-compose used to warn that you probably don't have it running - now it just throws good old No such file or directory error with 2km long stack trace
pallid yoke
Just MacOS things
sly mason
Honestly, I just use VMs for docker
pallid yoke
I do too, wsl2 is Default backend
sly mason
The issue that docker needs a linux OS to run, so literally all solutions for it involve a VM of some sort; There's macOS's native hypervisor which pretty much nobody uses, and vbox which is what was used to be used, I think you can still get it to use that with docker-machine, but, the entire experience is kinda bleh
ebon adder
I think Hangar is looking pretty good! Quite a few things I would've done differently personally, but yeah, pretty decent!
random badger
yeah, for email verification, I usually just set the db entry to verified
narrow verge
galaxy brain
random badger
@ebon adder what would you have done differently?
ebon adder
Headless backend
Nuxt handling all of the frontend, no jQuery, definitely not bootstrap
Less frontend dependencies too, lots of the things can be quite easily made with component based development (Vue ofc)
misty mountain
Do keep in mind that Hangar is open source, so you're free to contribute those changes ^^
ebon adder
So much has been done using the current route, I think it would be:
- Almost insulting to strip so much of it
- Take a lot of work and time, of which I don't have really, only the weekends
- In a way, pointless, it might improve the UX and design of the end product but what's planned is still going to be more than enough either way
untold idol
gonna pr blockchain
modest forge
Headless backend is redundant, you can just run it in the background, no need to add a daemon into Hangar itself
Hangar's frontend is largely ported from Ore; we're working on replacing the outdated jQuery stuff with Vue, but it takes time
ebon adder
Headless backend allows for the entire frontend to be rendered using JavaScript which has huge benefits. - Perhaps you shouldn't have forked Ore?
modest forge
I don't think "headless" means what you think it means
MVC is fine, there's no real reason for us to reinvent the wheel and go REST-only
barren shale
^ pretty much
ebon adder
Headless backend is a backend that doesn't serve HTML?
random badger
headless cms maybe is a better term for that?
ebon adder
Well it doesn't have to be a CMS but yeah
modest forge
Either way, the point still stands - there's little to gain from a REST-only backend approach
ebon adder
Except from component based frontend development being incredibly, incredibly easy to use, powerful and efficient... and also the noticeable site-wide performance and UX benefits.
sly mason
I think part of the idea is to create a tool with stuff people are already familiar with vs shifting the entire design paradime over to something which people aren't too familiar with
Then again, I woulda done rest backend and PHP frontend, so, you know
runs
modest forge
Mini literally does this type of setup in his day job
Plus there have been countless attempts to do this from scratch (including two ditched versions of Hangar), and Ore is the only one that has gained enough traction to actually be feature-complete
Basing off Ore is imo more sensible than trying to do this entirely from scratch
sly mason
Yea, being able to get something out using a tech stack proven to work vs spending time tryna learn a new design set for the sake of being "modern", if it becomes an issue and we gotta switch it up, it's easier to do that having something which works and can sit there working vs the race to get something out in general while tryna learn a new system
soft hornet
Orrrrrrrr, Paper could take the Sponge strategy and do another from-scratch re-write in a language like one person knows and spend a few bonus years getting there! 🙂
mortal idol
Hi!
sly mason
Then again, maybe that's a bit too popular of a language
modest forge
hmm yes which obscure non-java framework should we pick? I vote weber
misty mountain
sadly kotlin does not fit those criteria, a whopping 7 people know kotlin
narrow verge
going to rewrite Hangar in Rails
narrow verge
Ti-Basic?
modest forge
rewrite it using CF workers like someone suggested the other day
pallid yoke
Nuxt is really bad for SEO
Unless you server render
Then you aren't headless anymore
ebon adder
Nuxt has all the benefits of headless, and it always server renders, that's basically the whole point of it
What gets rendered server side "hydrates" client side and it's as if it was never rendered on the server
pallid yoke
It wouldn't integrate as nicely into the db as our templates do right now
Also, if we would have not forked ore, we would never be done
This is a giant project
random badger
Mini, did you get a chance to pull my channel pr? I really cannot figure out why this one thing isn't working on the channel list page
for some reason, its not updating the channel name (via a v-model binding)
pallid yoke
Nah, spend all day on dyescape stuff
random badger
ah ok, I just saw you on intellij, wasn't sure what
pallid yoke
Gonna have a full day of meetings tomorrow, hopefully I still got the mental capacity to look at stuff after that
I was balls deep in collision code today, really no fun
random badger
ok, I was stupid...
I just fixed it
man, apparently all I needed was to just look at it after sleeping, and I got it in a second. funny how I spent like 30 mins trying yesterday, but now I got it.
pallid yoke
That happens so often to me
When I get stuck somewhere, I just gonna run around the house for a few minutes and come back and it often helps
Or get some ice cream from across the street
random badger
yeah, I guess that means taking breaks, even short ones, is a really good idea. I prob don't do that enough
random badger
hmm, can't figure out how to get jackson to send a string for offsetdatetime instead of 1601790864.543927 whatever this is
what kind of timestamp is that? I don't recognize it
stiff token
MM not getting enough sleep?
$ date -d '@1601790864.543927'
Sun Oct 4 07:54:24 AM CEST 2020
This is regular current date UNIX timestamp.
random badger
oh ok, I haven't done much with times, im used to seeing the ISO 8601 string format
random badger
should the main project view be moved to a vue component? there is a bunch of JS relating to the page editor, the promoted versions, member list, star count, watcher count, and a bunch more
I think all this is probably better served by Vue
random badger
also, im thinking we might want this?
https://kazupon.github.io/vue-i18n/introduction.html
Im just reading about it now
or rather the -next version of it https://github.com/intlify/vue-i18n-next
trying it out, and it seems to work pretty well. just a simple $t('key.for.message')
narrow verge
oh i18n? rails has something similar like that
cinder silo
Are you guys de-jquerying hangar?
random badger
slowly
leaden moss
Hey Machine Maker, do you manage the Vanilla Tweaks plugin version? Had a question about the Wandering Traders component
Ahh nevermind I got ahold of jmp, he's the other dev in question
pallid yoke
Issue with making that is Vue that it makes it harder to read for Google
But we can make fallback content I guess
Ah ye, vue-i18n is nice, use it at work
misty mountain
you could use the meta tags per page to help google along?
pallid yoke
That too, but they still love actual html
misty mountain
definitely, but whatever creates the best experience for all sure oughtta be good enough?
pallid yoke
Haha you clearly never worked with google
We want to be higher ranked than other sites
When you Google essentials download, hangar needs to come up first
misty mountain
i indeed have not, all i do is serve birbs!
random badger
yeah Mini, we could def have the rendered markdown page be still in the template
that'd be the majority of the info we'd still want google to be able to see easily right?
the promoted versions card was already done via javascript and the pages / member list? those that important for google to see?
pallid yoke
Yeah
random badger
yeah, they are important to see? or yeah to my first bit
pallid yoke
Content is the most important
sly mason
But, gotta make the whole UI rest powered
barren shale
https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/commit/119f2209d3d04280b55e349ce893d206392a1972#diff-b40c02b2ba94ad54c225e36b9bdcb154R6 any idea why this is giving me a 403? :<
pallid yoke
There's some ajax setup we call
Which has csrf token stuff
Check other entry points I guess
random badger
Yeah @barren shale you’re gonna wanna call $.ajaxSetup(window.ajaxSettings); so it adds the csrf header
Also mini, are we gonna do this? https://github.com/PaperMC/Hangar/blob/master/src/main/java/io/papermc/hangar/config/SecurityConfig.java#L54
Pretty sure that’s what all those @CSPnonce.attr things are.
rapid turtle
What is hangar?
Please explain to me what is hangar
@whole briar
report
admin
rapid turtle
admin we need help
safe harbor
<@&748618676189528155>
rapid turtle
@rapid turtle where you from?
@whole briar From germany
rapid turtle
Why are yoi trolling me A248
misty mountain
?ban @whole briar troll
azure boltBOT
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proud basalt
misty mountain
someone should edit that to be discord-specific
rapid turtle
OmaMitRollator just wrote me that he wants to come back with a different profile and provoke.
misty mountain
we'll handle it as it happens
takes him a couple minutes to waste 10 of our seconds
safe harbor
10 at least before they can type lol
random badger
gonna wait for you to take a look at the new vue components tmrw before merging Mini, so you can decide if we need to add more fallback content or not
why is the underline after the svg tag?
covert shoreBOT
waxen rivet
Is hangar an api like spigot?
safe harbor
No, it's a resource repository
narrow verge
waxen rivet
ok sorry but im new to that paper stuff
I always used spigot
So what is hangar then used for?
I understand that is a resource repository but like for what
safe harbor
For... resources?
waxen rivet
Yea but what can i do with it
safe harbor
Downloading plugins, publishing your own plugins etc
Since it's based on Ore, you have generally more possibilities than using spigot's XF resource plugin
waxen rivet
So i dont need it for my server
safe harbor
No
waxen rivet
Ok thank you rlly much
pallid yoke
gonna wait for you to take a look at the new vue components tmrw before merging Mini, so you can decide if we need to add more fallback content or not
will do
random badger
there a reason the show staff page is restricted to people who are actually staff?
that's how its setup on ore
pallid yoke
2:34
am sorry 😄
see, I was gonna open ore to check
but then I got distracted
but yeah, dont see why we should restrict it
random badger
yeah, im looking at the show staff route in ore rn
it checks if they have the IsStaff permission
hallow ore
Hey, Hangar looks like a great project, but I was wondering if it's going to have an API so we can push updates automatically from CI/CD solutions like GitHub actions, thanks! 🙂
random badger
yes, there is an api for things like that
hallow ore
Ooooh nice, I’m hyped then.
That was lacking for Spigot I had to write my own client that uses Cloudflare bypass stuff it’s a mess
Probably not for their API
Or at least not as a « under attack » mode like Spigot
gusty birch
@gleaming sinew https://i.imgur.com/3MzAzFT.png most likely CF. I have reading this channel for a while and am wondering why @gleaming sinew are so worried about scaling hangar? Spigot can keep up with all there traffic using XenForo why can't hangar do the same with java?
stiff token
AFAIK Hangar will be behind CF, but won't have the CF captcha protection for API, which would be stupid.
sly mason
Well, the design does have performance constraints
But, are those constraints going to be an issue for us? probably not
gusty birch
Yeah that was my thinking too. I mean sure you could outgrow the performance you are getting java but for now and I presuming the foreseeable future its not a concern
There is also the ability (assuming the java app is doesn't have state in it) to just run multiple instances of hangar with traefik load balancing between them
stiff token
Hangar has a lot of state iirc.
pallid yoke
If one instance isn't enough, we will start a second one, lol
Replicating state is easy
And im not sure we even have state outside of the DB
sly mason
I mean, depending on what the state stuff is, I'd rather consider looking to work out it
random badger
theres the pending version cache thing? that counts right?
sly mason
pending version cache?
gusty birch
And im not sure we even have state outside of the DB thats what I assumed
If its only in the DB then starting another instances is easy
pallid yoke
I run spring clusters at work with tons of state without persistence, just gonna use infinispan to replicate state in my cluster and it's not an issue
Yeah I guess MM, but ideally we would have sticky sessions so you would always land on the same instance
random badger
right yeah, that wouldn't be an issue then
sly mason
So, basically, redis but not redis
pallid yoke
Idk, I wouldn't worry about that for now, once we got a beta and see how we hold up with a couple of thousands requests per minute or smth we can see what we can do
pallid yoke
If we let CF cache the statics that will at least make the thread pools happy
sly mason
Like, other day, I walked into a room and
pallid yoke
Infinispan is distributed tho
So it's p2p redis
- runs *
It's a cool tool tho, basically you just configure it, tell it to look for other containers with the same label and it will build a cluster and replicate your spring caches
gusty birch
So it sounds like scale isn't going to be a problem. I image Spoonge is doing just fine
sly mason
We're not expecting it to be an issue
I mean, I've never done enterprise web dev, but, I've worked with this stuff enough to not have a massive concern about scaling at this point
random badger
I mean...we might have issues when hangar knocks google off the #1 spot on the alexa rankings, but that wont happen for.... a few months still 🙂
sly mason
unless they went full... bad word... with it, scaling up is almost trivial these days
gusty birch
I mean atleast with CF you get free downtime when there network gets knocked offline
pallid yoke
So it sounds like scale isn't going to be a problem. I image Spoonge is doing just fine
@gusty birch I mean, I expect to get more traffic than sponge tho, lol
gusty birch
Very true but I would still assume they still have alot of headroom left for traffic growth
pallid yoke
Yeah
gusty birch
Anybody had this issue with the docker hangar build https://hastebin.com/wewujajumi.sql
pallid yoke
Delete node folder an try again 🤷♂️
gusty birch
Ah got it. Was a problem with the frontend folder permissions
modest forge
just looking through my unread GH notifications
barren shale
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modest forge
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gusty birch
Oh also @gleaming sinew Netflix has a large chunk of java software https://github.com/Netflix?language=java Zuul which is a major part of Netflix is in java
gusty birch
Never really looked to deep into there code