the-silents

[burnt nest]

some people just wanna watch developers cry

[inland socket]

I think we need a place to post our cats.

[tribal osprey]

#adorable-pets

[inland socket]

I have no perms for that

I don't

[tired mountain]

True

[sturdy locust]

anyone streamin

[austere island]

Nope.

[sturdy locust]

ah alright

[stiff pulsar]

wow it's finally been done after 68 hours

[little pawn]

what's finally been done? general emptied?

or paper 1.16

[inland socket]

Not a stable build. Don't install it on a server you care about. I am going to attempt to run it on a seperate VM later

[little pawn]

https://ci.prevarinite.com/job/BardyBot/ good to see my CI is working properly finally

also the way BardyBot was designed, anyone can literally just pick him up and host him on their own server using their own bot token

if anyone wants to do that lol

[little pawn]

also why is general dead

[austere island]

Due to 0 people waiting for Paper 1.16.1.

[burnt nest]

i'm waiting

but cant join vc

[austere island]

Just build it.

[little pawn]

you can join vc

there's no restrictions

[burnt nest]

i cant due to not beeing able to use my pc

[inland socket]

at the top right

I am not installing it yet

debian on a vm

yes but buildtools added that folder from spigot. anyone know what it is for?

sorry can you type what you said about what you need maven for?

[fair prawn]

The voice call

RIP

[stiff pulsar]

you know what we have to do at some point again @fair prawn

[fair prawn]

TODAY

imeanwat

[stiff pulsar]

AAA

[austere island]

It's not locked.

[inland socket]

General is open

[austere island]

Oh.

Gen 2.

[little pawn]

@inland socket you can get maven by using apt install maven, you need it to compile and shadow

[fair prawn]

I can join when it's locked anyway :p

[little pawn]

you should join us

and bring your mateys

[fair prawn]

Only when @stiff pulsar's free so I can bully him again

[inland socket]

just looked it up, i am excited to use it

[fair prawn]

[stiff pulsar]

will be in a couple of hours

[short wave]

pretty sure most of us are willing to join again if it fills up

[austere island]

Perhaps.

And actually dead.

GG.

[stiff pulsar]

2 1/2 days, it held up long enough :p

[austere island]

Felt way longer.

How many work hours have we wasted?

[short wave]

pretty sure I spent 15 hours yesterday literally just flying back and forth checking for the lighting engine shit

[inland socket]

oof

[austere island]

Same.

Just flying around.

[stiff pulsar]

I was at least semi productive with the proper fixes 😂

[inland socket]

What was the lighting engine issue?

[austere island]

https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_01-13-38.png

[inland socket]

oh fuck wow

[rancid sentinel]

it’s the new extra dark™️ biome

[inland socket]

patent pending

[short wave]

the most annoying part was that it needed lots of chunk activity to be going on, so testing locally was near impossible and you needed a bunch of players all moving quickly to get it to fall apart over time

[wicked pivot]

The dark district™️

[inland socket]

I wonder what happens if you preload the chunks

[lyric hemlock]

I was flying around on warp speed 😉

[wicked pivot]

@lyric hemlock 10/10

[lyric hemlock]

the generation was fine but when you headed back the light was somehow sometimes broken

[inland socket]

its open

[small ocean]

https://xkcd.com/1172/

xkcd: Workflow

There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN.

[stiff dome]

so what's happening in here?

[inland socket]

nothing right now, the entertainment is in #paper-help

[small ocean]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/why-you-should-not-public-your-plugin-on-dev-bukkit-org.11503/

[austere island]

ProtocolSupport Gang.

[zinc summit]

ew

[austere island]

Oh. No.

Actually... perhaps, he does "drop" some new features.

[fair prawn]

hangar can't come soon enough

[zinc summit]

from my experience protocolsupport was really glitchy, viasuite was a much smoother experience for me, idk

[fair prawn]

storytime with mbax!

[stiff pulsar]

@feral crane COUGH

[fair prawn]

hangar when

[stiff pulsar]

ping of the day done

[pearl stratus]

well

curse never sold bukkit.org and dbo

hm

[inland socket]

why is their branding all over DBO then

[zinc summit]

dbo?

oh

[inland socket]

dev.bukkit.org

[pearl stratus]

there is no "bukkit itself"

curse owns bukkit.org and dbo

[glacial aspen]

That dev bukkit thread is a meme lol

[pearl stratus]

whether they own the IP...i dunno

[inland socket]

anyone have a good central way to look up Paper plugins

[pearl stratus]

welll.....

[fair prawn]

not yet

[pearl stratus]

wonder how overwolf is gonna brand it then

[fair prawn]

paper forums

wrong order but shhh

[zinc summit]

owo

[pearl stratus]

stop pinging me in voice

[inland socket]

@pearl stratus

[fair prawn]

rip

[rancid sentinel]

bruh moment

[molten sage]

Moderator in vc

[zinc summit]

https://www.color-hex.com/color/b65974

47% red

[graceful cargo]

https://i.imgur.com/I9K5OYL.png

https://i.imgur.com/oOkRq8P.gifv

[fair prawn]

That's our logo

But recoloured

[graceful cargo]

rez 👀

[fair prawn]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/essentials-skript-1-9-1-15-2-bungeecord-spigot-paper-support-new-1-15-big-update.39698/reviews also this is amazing

[stiff pulsar]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/essentials-skript.67062/

[graceful cargo]

[zinc summit]

im dead

[rancid sentinel]

Hey fellas, what is the build code for 1.8 waterfall ?

[zinc summit]

that essentials skript pages actives every bone in my body in anger mode

[short wave]

no

[pearl stratus]

no

[zinc summit]

yeha 0%

[wild wedge]

grab the latest waterfall, waterfall is 1.8 - 1.16 @rancid sentinel

[inland socket]

lol PaperX

[graceful cargo]

double standards

[austere island]

You could just steal other peoples code, say you have permission and that you "recoded" it, but when someone wants you to fix an issue:
https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_18-41-32.png

[inland socket]

that is so fucked legally. Spigot would be screwed in america for a conflict of interest

Yeah don't poke that bear ig

[rancid sentinel]

Okay @wild wedge Thanks !

[stiff pulsar]

https://hangar.minidigger.me/

[fair prawn]

https://github.com/Phoenix616/MineDown

[wild wedge]

minimessage

[zinc summit]

sorry had to make this real quick

[fair prawn]

FastAsyncWorldEditX

[zinc summit]

ExtraFastAsyncWorldEditX

[glacial aspen]

okay bye

[atomic hazel]

solid mic @rancid sentinel

[rancid sentinel]

Sorry 😦

[atomic hazel]

💩

[rancid sentinel]

all i want is waterfall documentation !

[glacial aspen]

@fair prawn How is the MineDown syntax for merely hovering over text? Would it just be [Text](This is the hover stuff!) or do I have to go for [Text](hover=Hover stuff wee)?

Almost 6 yrs, bax

[small ocean]

https://justhowoldismc.today/1.8.9

[rancid sentinel]

All i need the documentations, i can't find it in the website

[glacial aspen]

1.8.0 is almost 6yrs then :p

[zinc summit]

5 years old in a month

[rancid sentinel]

😦

[austere island]

You do know that the latest Waterfall version still supports 1.8 right?

[rancid sentinel]

I know

[glacial aspen]

i might have to try it tho

looks dope from a server owner perspective

the whole closing tags in minimessage isn't very nice for server owners at least

and yeah, i'd have to fork it

[fair prawn]

@feral crane Hangar when

[glacial aspen]

hangar when

can i ping him too

[somber belfry]

https://s.56k.pw/a/Jv4jJBX.png
That's a weird way of writing Intellij

[rancid sentinel]

My IntelliJ rich presence just gave up

[dim turret]

what if we removed skript 🤔
@rancid sentinel find script -> code into plugin -> profit?

[glacial aspen]

https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Tuinity/blob/master/.github/workflows/maven.yml

builds stay for a few months at least

[stiff pulsar]

-R0.1-SNAPSHOT ftw.

[austere island]

Git hashes exists.

[glacial aspen]

just push your login details to master md

[pearl stratus]

it's just a massive pain to set up credentials for github packages yea

public creds in git repo

[wet lichen]

I couldn't figure it out lol

I said screw it and hosted a Archiva server

[wild wedge]

[wet lichen]

was easier

[glacial aspen]

[rancid sentinel]

Imagine versioning anything

0.1-snapshot 4ever

[dim turret]

talking so fast lmao

[pearl stratus]

hey guys how do i write a plugin in

[inland socket]

general is open

[fringe mist]

you dun

[dim turret]

hey guys how do i write a plugin in
@pearl stratus my professor is the one that made that, he always talks about how he developed it 'with oracle'

[pearl stratus]

dont ping me

[dim turret]

sorry didn't release when i quoted

[zinc summit]

This comment was flagged as highly inappropriate

[inland socket]

Any benefit to running an MC server in a container?

[atomic hazel]

same benefit to running anything in a container

[fair prawn]

https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/pull/3408

[inland socket]

I am hella new to containerization.

[fair prawn]

If someone knocks the bukkit over then there's a container to catch the spillage

[atomic hazel]

You aren't going to get any performance benefits anyway from it @inland socket

it's done for other reasons

[pearl stratus]

personally i just user tupperware

[atomic hazel]

you can easily manage a ton of instances, easily manage resources per box, security isolation, etc @inland socket

[pearl stratus]

pls don't post distasteful content here krusic

[inland socket]

reduced costs

i ❤️ microsoft paint

[fair prawn]

karengarko

[zinc summit]

kacheow

[feral crane]

@feral crane Hangar when
@fair prawn ill be working on it next week I guess

[short wave]

I guess

[pearl stratus]

does burger do translation keys?

that's generally my goto for finding changes

[fair prawn]

modern shart

[zinc summit]

mm burger

what the heck

[austere island]

Best watermark:
https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_19-19-52.png

[stiff pulsar]

love the border

[pearl stratus]

.-.

[zinc summit]

@ mini digger

[wild wedge]

nice mouse tux

[austere island]

Full copyright for that watermark goes to @sand swallow.

[wild wedge]

strong click

[sand swallow]

👀

[pearl stratus]

tux pls

[somber belfry]

my mans got box jades in mouse 1

[pearl stratus]

do i have to mute you

[feral crane]

@zinc summit feel free to ping me properly. oauth with google isnt setup yet, so those creds default to sponge, which is why google is saying "nope"

[zinc summit]

ah okay

[wild wedge]

since when is zed here

[zinc summit]

email sending in the works?

[feral crane]

also, you cant register via email either, since the verification mails will not be send

[fair prawn]

sponge's creds are in the repo?

[zinc summit]

ah alright

I will stay in limbo for now

[pearl stratus]

use push to talk then

[fair prawn]

or just oauth ids

[wild wedge]

can set up a mic gate

[feral crane]

they are only send into a dummy mail server where I can view them 😄

[austere island]

PTT exists.

[fair prawn]

krisp sorta acts like a mic gate ish

as well as suppressing noise

[zinc summit]

at the cost of quality, it blocks non-voice pretty well

[atomic hazel]

krisp puts your mic in a submarine

[glacial aspen]

tux is such a chad

[atomic hazel]

Really curious to hear more about that piglin issue by the way, had been wondering what the problem was. @short wave

[short wave]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/ver/1.16/Spigot-Server-Patches/0519-FIX-DIS-SHIT.patch

[limpid sequoia]

Wouldn't be surprised

[austere island]

Did anyone retest that issue after the lighting got fixed?

[glacial aspen]

@atomic hazel you've got an open mic there

[atomic hazel]

sorry

[glacial aspen]

it's fine, thank you :)

[green vale]

anybody sttreaming?

[wild wedge]

no

[green vale]

aw

[zinc summit]

😢

[summer wadi]

paper more advance people use 🙂

[pearl stratus]

why do people keep bringing up this bs

[fair prawn]

hard fork hard fork

tuinitypaperspigotcraftbukkitnotchserver

[pearl stratus]

there is no spoon

no that's a discord bot

[fair prawn]

...?

[olive glacier]

i love that

[stiff pulsar]

he wants you to forgive him ;(

[austere cape]

😭

[glacial aspen]

Do not drive him away, he is good!

[pearl stratus]

i fucking warned him

[glacial aspen]

Do not drive him away, Wiz!

[zinc summit]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commits?author=md-5

[last plover]

lol he's in spigot discord saying he got kicked haha

[austere cape]

Everyone makes mistakes 🙃

[pearl stratus]

no it's not

it's patches

[austere cape]

Holy cow, we’re at 5k on this srv

[glacial aspen]

It's not a requirement, but we're all just cooler

[zinc summit]

fake minidigger

[atomic hazel]

There's still optimisation patches missing, and still a few other issues, but pretty stable overall @edgy perch

[wild wedge]

test server's been running for 9 hours straight

[fair prawn]

[summer wadi]

did you try to go to the nether ??

[zinc summit]

does that imply some servers run 9 hours gay? 🤔

[short wave]

michaels server came in so clutch for testing that garbage issue last night

OP hardware

[wild wedge]

ez

[olive glacier]

god bless michael

[glacial aspen]

https://uwu.whats-th.is/3KNA8cZ.png

[wild wedge]

it's useful for testing flyhacks too

[edgy perch]

shoulda slapped on that overclocked 9900KS

[wild wedge]

boat fly

[edgy perch]

boat fly

very important

[manic patrol]

The dude is in spigot now asking about paper, smh.

[glacial aspen]

I believe it's a ZWS

[short wave]

let me switch discords real quick

[sturdy locust]

new stream?

[stiff pulsar]

no

[pearl stratus]

paper doesn't dual license

it can't

[zinc summit]

ah

[olive glacier]

omg what a mad lad

[sturdy locust]

aight

[pearl stratus]

individual contributors dual license their own contribs

[edgy perch]

hey wiz u want some pizza?

[pearl stratus]

yea but i forgot to buy cheese

so imma make it like monday or something maybe

[edgy perch]

no i mean like delivery

[pearl stratus]

no gross

[edgy perch]

LOOOL

alright

[wild wedge]

thx

[somber belfry]

I'll take wiz's pizza

[glacial aspen]

wiz has style 😎

[somber belfry]

or potatos

[wild wedge]

remind me to never send my address to jake

[foggy knoll]

Pizza without cheese

[summer wadi]

🥔

[fair prawn]

what if you get a pizza delivered then add more toppings and put it back in the oven

[stiff pulsar]

jake, michael wants pizza.

[wild wedge]

kenny did you say you want pizza

[stiff pulsar]

nono you can have it

[edgy perch]

https://potatoparcel.com/

[wild wedge]

potato parcel

lmao

HAHA

[atomic hazel]

😂

[cosmic oyster]

[summer wadi]

[fair prawn]

I want pizza but I already had pizza earlier

[edgy perch]

https://potatoparcel.com/products/potato-postcard

[foggy knoll]

Might get flack for this but I genuinely eat pizza without cheese

[atomic hazel]

we can put him on the potato

[somber belfry]

OMG

[stiff pulsar]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1017/2183/files/heart_potato_compressed_081cbcde-9738-4755-b628-97ce5224509e_540x.jpg?v=1568072262

[wild wedge]

how unfortunate

[wild wedge]

throw kenny on there

mason

[stiff pulsar]

[cosmic oyster]

Mason

[wild wedge]

wait jake let me send you a legendary meme of mason

[edgy perch]

http://ripcraftimize.com/

[fair prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/145883334508019712/722531084935495722/unknown.png

[stiff pulsar]

[wild wedge]

jake check DM

mason isn't craftimize actually

there's 3 others

[cedar belfry]

Dikpic? 👀

[wild wedge]

there was a big discussion recently again

[zinc summit]

what pic??

[wild wedge]

2 days ago in another server owner discord

mason was responding

let me send some memes from that

[cosmic oyster]

[wild wedge]

he also said he doesn't like phone homes

[olive glacier]

phone homes?

[cedar belfry]

[wild wedge]

yes as in

software sending requests to the developer's server for example

[zinc summit]

"mom pls help im scared"

oh

[wild wedge]

phoning homes

[olive glacier]

oh

why

[pseudo rapids]

ET actually said "home phone"

[wild wedge]

the irony is that he had a backdoor phoning home

[pseudo rapids]

Checkmate, nerds

[eternal belfry]

Julia Reda did an excellent talk about copyright in the EU. It didn't cover software, but the general message she made was that the only reason why the copyright system hasn't utterly collapsed is because the vast majority of people do not enforce their rights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL_Wxu6x1HU

[zinc summit]

copyright is too damn long, bring it back down to 50 years or less

tom scott's video is great too

[gentle token]

what if i dont live in EU

[stiff pulsar]

sucks for you then

[zinc summit]

no eU

[gentle token]

so what about copyright for me

[little pawn]

who doesn't live in the EU am I right guys?

[gentle token]

i mean china steal everything u know

[wild wedge]

good meme right

[stiff pulsar]

imagine living on a sad rainy island outside of the eu

[zinc summit]

uk?

[stiff pulsar]

and the us is just a giant sad island outside of the eu as well

[gentle token]

yeah he meant uk

pound>euro soo...

[atomic hazel]

a continent is a big island

[hollow tulip]

a continent is a type of breakfast

[atomic hazel]

lol

[zinc summit]

contiental breakfast

tymmu!

[atomic hazel]

i want to try an island breakfast

[pulsar solstice]

sock is solid

[onyx stag]

Kneny you’re spending too much time here lately

[stiff pulsar]

🦥

[onyx stag]

krusic.

[little pawn]

||

[austere island]

Hello.

[wild wedge]

h

oly

fuck

[atomic hazel]

😂

[rancid sentinel]

why

[wild wedge]

IT'S SO HARD

LOL

[atomic hazel]

It's like a boomerang

😂

[wild wedge]

HAHAHA

AT 10 SECONDS

WTF

[summer wadi]

wtf

[onyx stag]

[austere island]

DIY 3D printing.

[onyx stag]

Jakes at it again

[rancid sentinel]

i wonder does it hurt

[pearl stratus]

obvious fake

[wild wedge]

papermc discord at peak performance

jake sending 2 year old cumsock video

[edgy perch]

[rancid sentinel]

lighting glitch fixed?

[atomic hazel]

yes

[wild wedge]

no try again in 6 days

[zinc summit]

perhaps

[rancid sentinel]

ok

[atomic hazel]

yesn't

[rancid sentinel]

is anyoen streaming rn

[wild wedge]

yes

[rancid sentinel]

who?

[wild wedge]

https://twitch.tv/DrDisrespect

[stiff pulsar]

I'm streaming my window

[wild wedge]

what the fuck do they want to achieve with that aswell

[wild wedge]

"here's my setup ok"

[rancid sentinel]

its not working michael

[wild wedge]

[onyx stag]

[onyx stag]

Why do you have DMs open even Jake

[summer wadi]

i have the royal family in my dms

[onyx stag]

[pearl stratus]

it's not kasheek

it's kashike

kash-ih-keh kinda?

[rancid sentinel]

so no ones streaming?

[zinc summit]

i thought it was cash ike

[olive glacier]

ka she kay

[wild wedge]

kashike said kasheek

earlier today

[zinc summit]

no one in this vc is streaming i dont think

[pearl stratus]

he was memeing

[feral crane]

have you not watched starwars?!

[wild wedge]

wiz what if you are memeing right now

got em

[zinc summit]

if someone were streaming the channel would be locked

[rancid sentinel]

i mean streaming on twitch

[wild wedge]

what do you mean no one wants to see the 2 year old cumsock video

[stiff pulsar]

slicedlime is treaming https://www.twitch.tv/slicedlime

[wild wedge]

kenny just needs to go live again

[rancid sentinel]

thanks

[low pond]

twitch.tv/pokimane

[zinc summit]

i believe you mean mixer.com/ninja mmmmmmm

[wild wedge]

maybe you can do some neruxvace streaming kenny

[austere island]

Here Kneny Televions have a Slav VIBING:
https://www.twitch.tv/eighthradio

[wild wedge]

????

[stiff pulsar]

yea right 😂

[little pawn]

https://ci.prevarinite.com/job/BardyBot/

[somber belfry]

i believe you mean gaming.facebook.com/ninja

[olive glacier]

i'd stream but i don't want people back seat coding because my fragile identity as a programmer will fall apart

[gentle anvil]

^ Same

[rancid sentinel]

I embrace it

just ask anybody about my packet class

[atomic hazel]

that's another guy for jake to donate to

stream above

[olive glacier]

i mean maybe i'd learn more if all these galaxy brains back seat coded me

[wild wedge]

he's going hard at fucking ducktales moon theme

yes

[summer wadi]

sub chat only :/

[austere island]

That's like a 2.5k€ accordion.

[cosmic oyster]

subscriber only chat kinda cringe

[atomic hazel]

are you an accordion price enthusiast? @austere island

[short wave]

sub only chat is so bad to grow as a small streamer, basically dead growth... until paper boosted him

[zinc summit]

he has 60k followers tho

[austere island]

I am.

[stiff pulsar]

https://www.twitch.tv/slicedlime

[wild wedge]

slicedlime is mojang though

we need someone y o u n g

enthousiastic

[edgy perch]

https://www.twitch.tv/hammercyclone

[wild wedge]

he has a perfect haircut

[austere island]

4k. That's a lot.
https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_20-35-18.png

[wild wedge]

his haircut matches the average LTT viewer

perfect

[edgy perch]

your hair is majestic

[summer wadi]

vod chat get removed

well clips

after 30 days

chats on the side on twitch clips

[slow gulch]

@wild wedge https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/3639

[short wave]

nice

[wild wedge]

yeah will switch to paper's ver/1.16 branch now

[slow gulch]

no switch to my branch

[olive glacier]

cool

[wild wedge]

fine

[feral crane]

yeah thats not in paper yet

[slow gulch]

alright good luck I gotta go

ping me with issues

[edgy perch]

http://twitch.tv/jakkuh_t

[wild wedge]

updated

[summer wadi]

i might as well just self promo my own twitch channel

[zinc summit]

uh oh

[summer wadi]

hypixel

[zinc summit]

check out my twitch channel mixer.com/chew

[pearl stratus]

advertising 👀

[zinc summit]

[austere island]

How long has the call been going for if we don't count the pause?

[feral crane]

sunday?

[austere island]

Hours.

[summer wadi]

what we even doing on hypixel

[zinc summit]

it was empty this morning, me and mbaxter joined and started talking, then more people joined and here we are now

[austere island]

Dammit Jake: https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_20-52-06.png

[fair prawn]

The first call started around 7pm BST on 23rd June, the second call started ~6:50pm BST on 24th June, the current call started ~5:30pm BST today

[austere island]

So long enough:

[limpid sequoia]

I fucking hate phantoms

[fair prawn]

am abck

hi abck I'm MD

[stiff pulsar]

abck

[zinc summit]

/gamerule doInsomnia false

[fair prawn]

does EssentialsX's /speed affect elytra?

[stiff pulsar]

nah

[summer wadi]

dont think so

[fair prawn]

alright

[summer wadi]

cya mini

[last marsh]

why would you want elytra if you have speed

[edgy perch]

https://spark.lucko.me/#xHmoOoGs8H

[fair prawn]

speedlytra

[river robin]

there are optimizations that have been made and changes to make it more deterministic in addition to just that

[last marsh]

how do elytra work if they dont factor in speed

[river robin]

thats part of the reason why that patch is an insta drop and not a "hey lets delay and figure it out"

[last marsh]

if flying ability doesnt contribute and its a completely separate thing that's weird lol

[river robin]

eigen may or may not work on it for 1.16 depending on how they feel about the changes that have been made

[olive glacier]

there isn't an attribute for elytra speed

[last marsh]

i know

[glacial aspen]

wait bruh is that jake as in the blonde glasses guy

[short wave]

yes

[glacial aspen]

woa

[sturdy locust]

hows paper coming along. is lighting still broke?

[short wave]

there's still some issues but it's not flat out super broke now

[sturdy locust]

oh hell yeah

thats really impressive

[rancid sentinel]

so how many more bugs is there after the lighting bug?

[short wave]

probably a lot that we don't even know about so i dunno

[cedar belfry]

👀 Z in vc

[rancid sentinel]

alright

[wild wedge]

[river robin]

no mic here sadly

[short wave]

can't believe I've heard wiz's voice before i've heard yours

[wild wedge]

@slow gulch server should auto-update from your 1.16-update branch noow

if anyone else wants to work on paper & auto-update the server, lmk

[river robin]

you will always be pure mini oreos to me bae ❤️

[short wave]

[slow gulch]

Anyone going to livestream bug finding on the server?

[short wave]

https://www.twitch.tv/jakkuh_t

[undone berry]

why minecraft did not coded with c++

[rancid sentinel]

i've never had a mic, just used my phone haha

[undone berry]

java is so slower ..

[rancid sentinel]

no lol

[olive glacier]

lmao stop

[rancid sentinel]

minecraft did not coded with c++

did not coded

lol

basically because it is and what you are saying is wrong

[undone berry]

man i am c++ developer i always see all codes maximum 100mb ram and %10 cpu

[last marsh]

@manic patrol is the server still on dumb sync tp

[undone berry]

i mean kernel code

[pearl stratus]

lmfao

[rancid sentinel]

shit code is shit no matter what language you put it in

[pearl stratus]

bruh just stop

[undone berry]

lol

[olive glacier]

lool

[manic patrol]

I'm unsure.

[last marsh]

is the build number the 128 i gave you

[manic patrol]

Probably best to keep it on that anyways in case we do more patch changes.

Ya

[last marsh]

idk we just pushed 1.16.1 changes

[last marsh]

so if you want to get the latest build w/ async + color chat + mobs + etc

[wild wedge]

pls send new version thx

[manic patrol]

[last marsh]

https://essentialsx.net/downloads.html

[manic patrol]

Is it on Spigot yet?

[last marsh]

its prob not worth having sync tp

so dump that for now (although keep the build in case you need to switch back to it)

thats my recc.

[short wave]

the new RTP stuff in ESSX looks cool, good job on that

[last marsh]

oh thanks lol yeah i just threw that together

it chuggs a bit in spigot

but it should be fast in paper

[rancid sentinel]

yeah spigots horrible compared to paper

[last marsh]

i think for spigot i should push the chunk loads onto a scheduled task

so that the command doesnt halt

[river robin]

can vouch re: razer blade quality assurance and support 👀

is bad

[austere island]

MSI/Clevo gang.

[last marsh]

yeah its like 1 minute

instead of like 5 minutes with buildtools

[manic patrol]

Yeah!

[rancid sentinel]

lenovo or nothing

[last marsh]

thank @fair prawn for letting us push the 1.16 changes a bit early

its still missing items but that should come soon(tm)

[rancid sentinel]

so rn their just working on the lighting bug?

[stiff pulsar]

no

[short wave]

there's more than just that

[rancid sentinel]

oh okay

[fair prawn]

@last marsh goddamnit

[short wave]

the piglin REPELLENT behavior stuff needs to be looked at, since commenting it out isn't exactly a fix, been trying to figure it out myself

[austere island]

Striders take fall damage when landing on other striders.

[fair prawn]

I was rebasing to fix up the mess of commits

[rancid sentinel]

alright

[cedar belfry]

jake is on a client

[fair prawn]

dw lol I was gonna try and keep the individual commits and rebase but if you and josh are fine with squash then idm

[rancid sentinel]

yeah on that liquid bounce thing

it's 🤮

[cedar belfry]

mhm

[austere island]

Actually any entity.

[pearl stratus]

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bee

[slow gulch]

Can you try testing entity collisions and lightning

[zinc summit]

bread bees mm

[olive glacier]

i would but i can't summon

[sturdy locust]

[wild wedge]

sec

[summer wadi]

cya

[sacred spear]

hi michael

[wild wedge]

summon should work

[last marsh]

@fair prawn im fine with squash lol i woulda preferred my PR not being merged into his branch but it doesn't matter as long as the name is somewhere on there

[wild wedge]

otherwise /spawnmob

[fair prawn]

fair enough lol

[zinc summit]

3 bees all with different speeds

[olive glacier]

it's just because i'm not op michael

[fair prawn]

/spawnmob should be easier as of latest dev build

[last marsh]

roy merged it so i'm guessing he's fine with being co-authored

[zinc summit]

Is this server set to public?

[last marsh]

i didnt ask him

[slow gulch]

Try teleporting as well

[wild wedge]

olivia, yes

zaxarner just use /spawnmob then

[olive glacier]

No perms.

[last marsh]

yee

[olive glacier]

It's all good tho, I'm not sure exactly what to test anyway

[graceful cargo]

HI WHAT'S UP

[stiff pulsar]

this is great https://i.imgur.com/QwDpYRv.png

[wild wedge]

spawnmob should work now

[last marsh]

spawnmob piglin or something

[graceful cargo]

my name

[last marsh]

oh yeah i was just complaining about you merging my shit lol

but its fine

i was gonna push that into dev but it got delayed a few more days xd

[fair prawn]

hey I was gonna rebase and keep your individual credit but you squashed before I could do it lol

[last marsh]

im not talking about that

[summer wadi]

ip is in the pinned messages if needed

[last marsh]

it just messed up the release schedule i was thinking of

getting stuff into dev faster

[austere island]

https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_21-39-22.png

[fair prawn]

oh right

[last marsh]

lol.

[austere island]

A YES.

[last marsh]

you dont ride strider. strider rides you.

[austere island]

They also take fall dmg when landing on other mobs.

That's interesting.

[stiff pulsar]

trying to reach the moon https://i.imgur.com/QOkEuSF.png

https://i.imgur.com/la4hAyh.png

https://i.imgur.com/LOOTpXn.png

[fair prawn]

"oh hey garbage"

[summer wadi]

not a mac issue i know someone running 1.15 and 1.16 on a mac

[zinc summit]

works fine for me

[fair prawn]

"bagem"

[austere island]

https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_21-45-42.png

[sturdy locust]

nice screenshot

[last marsh]

"of BIG BOY"

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[summer wadi]

give me

[harsh oar]

pizza and tequila, sounds like a good night

[last plover]

hell yeah

[river robin]

we should really just add a profile for that lol

seems to come up a bit

[sacred spear]

the white bottle to the left is also appealing

[river robin]

good tool, helps you very optimize, makes thing speedy fast

https://giphy.com/gifs/tmnt-fry-shredder-iSuffsM2olusE

[pearl stratus]

dfu

i mean that's his avatar isn't it

[river robin]

if youre ever bored, read that paper

profunctor optics is a fun one

[pearl stratus]

https://github.com/RainWarrior

https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper#references

[feral crane]

oh nice, am not the only one thinking about dfu when seeing fry

[pearl stratus]

uhhh

mini is your mappings viewer deficient?

i can't figure this shit out

[feral crane]

I mean, the UX/UI isnt great

[pearl stratus]

IBlockData.class
public void b(GeneratorAccess var0, BlockPosition var1, int var2)

doesn't appear to be here?

wait

the spigot name column...uses mojang names...?

[feral crane]

the matching is hell awful

[pearl stratus]

:<

[feral crane]

I really want it to use my SRGs

but thats even worse legally

[pearl stratus]

yea idk what to do with this at all

[feral crane]

I have a private github repos with 1.16 srgs and mojang mapped paper code

u want access?

[pearl stratus]

void attack(World,BlockPosition,EntityHuman) (obf a) maybe wrong, multiple candidates, no return type match

lul

it just guesses doesn't it

[river robin]

leaf asmr is the new fad

[pearl stratus]

hmm, there isn't even a matching method here

i think the viewer is just dropping methods somehow

[feral crane]

is it inherited?

[pearl stratus]

no

[feral crane]

lemme look

1.16?

[pearl stratus]

either

1.16 just adds an int param

[sturdy locust]

oof i dont think anyone is streaming rn

[pearl stratus]

public void b(GeneratorAccess generatoraccess, BlockPosition blockposition, int i, int j) {

should be 1.16

one less int param for 1.15

[summer wadi]

pretty much

[pearl stratus]

oh, 1.16 class is called BlockBase

looks like they pulled that up or something idk

[feral crane]

yeah I dont have that method in IBlockData

was about to say

they added that new class and moved shit up

[feral crane]

thats why I was asking about inhertiance

[pearl stratus]

well, it's missing in 1.15.2 view too

[feral crane]

https://i.imgur.com/8y6szlO.png it is in 1.16

[zinc summit]

Dragon be like

[dim turret]

What's everyone's fav dev ops tools, i know a lot of people use Jenkins here but what else do you use?

[feral crane]

and its in 1.15

https://i.imgur.com/gYTSpgJ.png

altho the spigot mapping is dum

[pearl stratus]

oh tf

[feral crane]

ill just rewrite it to use SRG next week

this is dum

[pearl stratus]

you're looking at mojan->spigot mappings

[feral crane]

yeah those are way better

dont use spigot-> mojang

[pearl stratus]

oof

[feral crane]

thats a shit show

[pearl stratus]

ok well, that answered my question at least

[chilly quarry]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/embedded/develop-apps-platforms/codecache.htm

[austere island]

Mojang took that line as a challenge.

https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_22-06-49.png

False by default.

[somber belfry]

@dim turret Jenkins, CloudFormation, Terraform, AWS CodePipeline & CodeBuild, Ansible, k8s, prometheus, loki, etc.

[austere island]

Avoid at all cost!

[dim turret]

thanks Toboshii:, just wondering what everyone uses 🙂

[austere island]

128GB of swap is too much.

[river robin]

nothing more fun than a full hard swap on linux

immediately made me go out and buy 32G

[glacial aspen]

@dim turret Drone is by far my favourite tool outside of the norm (i.e. git, bash, etc)

[short wave]

32gb is like minimum for me

[somber belfry]

I'm a DevOps consultant, so I have to deal with everything in the field lol

[static belfry]

1.16 updates branch got merged into ver/1.16 correct?

[glacial aspen]

not yet

[wild wedge]

what the fuck

[zinc summit]

BLOODY HECK

[short wave]

[rancid sentinel]

wtf are you guys doing on that server

[somber belfry]

https://s.56k.pw/a/DL7X54j.png

[rancid sentinel]

thats a lot of entities

[somber belfry]

a lot of tnt

apparently

[river robin]

if only they could fix that allocation stalling

[zinc summit]

now thats a lotta damage

[pearl stratus]

doing the usual "stress test over bug test"

[rancid sentinel]

see don't remove my creative mode michael, remove the others

[static belfry]

page file?

[stiff pulsar]

let's just all blame michael since it's his server

[static belfry]

[zinc summit]

FROZE MY MC? The server is ok

[somber belfry]

TP'ed to Li_harris, client completely dies lol

[rancid sentinel]

unfortunately thats what happens when people don't respect the server

[short wave]

lots of tnt blow up very funny

[manic patrol]

We need something new to blow up.

tnt is getting old.

[rancid sentinel]

end crystals are fun

[short wave]

respawn anchors

[rancid sentinel]

ooh

[dim turret]

2x i think

[stiff pulsar]

just go to sleep in the calming warmth of the nether

[manic patrol]

OR beds in nether

LOl

[river robin]

yeah I stopped using that formula when I got 32G

[short wave]

2x of memory up to a point.... lol

[river robin]

2G - 4G is plenty for a desktop system

[fair prawn]

blow up

[river robin]

also swapfile is much easier and now pretty much the same functionality wise in modern linux

that wasnt always the case however

[stiff pulsar]

but that's mean ;(

[fair prawn]

exactly

[austere island]

128GB of NVME swap or 🚪.

[rancid sentinel]

who wants to make kneny map art

[inland socket]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shaq-mans-not-hot-math-gif-10285836

[austere island]

Interesting to see ARM and S390 have a higher one by default:
https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_22-20-11.png

[static belfry]

whats wrong with windows

[somber belfry]

all of it

[static belfry]

im rocking windows RN

[river robin]

windows will actually let you shrink and expand the system partition as long as there's nothing allocated over there

[gentle token]

yeah

[river robin]

gparted might as well in linux but I dont know that I recommend it

[gentle token]

defragmentation needed before shrink for hdd

[inland socket]

Windows is for plebs

[river robin]

unfortunately, windows likes to fragment so you often end up with random file fragments out there

yes

no mic, in my office at work

one of those days ❤️

[static belfry]

i tough you cant modify on windows when its in use ,

That you need a third party programfor that

[rancid sentinel]

phone

[random saffron]

yes you can

[static belfry]

with partition manager?

[river robin]

yes you can in disk manager on vanilla bone stock windows

[random saffron]

sometimes there are things the windows defrag tool can't move for some reason and you're stuck with a large partition

[river robin]

it will limit you based on how far out the last allocation was however

[inland socket]

[river robin]

unfortunately windows defrag can miss stuff and get you in trouble but its relatively rare since they improved it with 10

[rancid sentinel]

hmm 300k files in my home directory

[inland socket]

Screw that and the horse it rode in on

[dim turret]

its not that bad in the uk

[rapid comet]

get hyperoptic

if you want 1gb/sec speeds in the UK

[static belfry]

im rocking the free google cloud trial

300 usd in free credit

https://cloud.google.com/free

1 year free

im running my minecraft server on it

[gentle token]

for students azure 100$ free for 1year

[inland socket]

My problem is that AWS doesn't have any great solutions because of my Geolocation.

[gentle token]

without credit card needed

.edu mail needed

[river robin]

nothing youre doing will benefit from EC2 in here

AWS is for work at scale in the enterprise

[little pawn]

yeah

[inland socket]

It is so fucking expensive to get a server in a data center in the US. I wish we had something like Hetzner here

[river robin]

its not for you or your workload

[little pawn]

^^^^

[river robin]

its a ripoff because you're not using it for what its intended for

[austere island]

He said Hetzner. Let's talk about 2014 DDoS issues.

[little pawn]

lol

idk

I'll probably be getting an SYS dedi soon anyway

[somber belfry]

@inland socket I mean OVH is comparable

[river robin]

think aikar stepped away for a few minutes guys, may want to hold off until he's back

[little pawn]

SYS is a bit cheaper than OVH (and yes I know they're the same company)

[dim turret]

sys is just outdated used stuff

[inland socket]

well yeah but to get a barebones server here is out of my budget

[somber belfry]

ah

[river robin]

outdated used stuff is fine for some people and some workloads

[dim turret]

for reliability i wouldn't try them

[river robin]

you are getting what youre paying for

[dim turret]

i'd personally go with hetzner > sys any day

[little pawn]

so would I but SYS are cheaper when it comes to dedicated servers

maybe I don't even need a dedi though

[dim turret]

what are your use cases?

[little pawn]

idk at the moment tbh

[river robin]

1.12 still had plenty of heavy abstractions

cant speak to a percentage, but I would expect it would improve

likely nowhere near as much as now though lol

just a bunch of random questions

[brisk zephyr]

No update streans anymore

[graceful widget]

i will be

[austere island]

And that's survival:

[river robin]

each plugin adds 1 g to 'lag'

[static belfry]

thats why i use 0 plugins

[zinc summit]

lagggg uggggghhhhhh 😢

[river robin]

laggggggggggggggggg

[short wave]

the more gs you add, the faster it gets resolved

[zinc summit]

my server be like laggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[fair prawn]

Problem with CMI is that when it gets "updated", it often doesn't fix stuff

[river robin]

rip libraryaddict

that's the premium way

[stiff pulsar]

premium support™️

[river robin]

they finally took me off of the resource staff list I saw

less PMs for me 😄

[inland socket]

ADOBE AIKAR

[river robin]

but yes, the premium community and the interactions are awful

[austere island]

I'd be rich if I got paid for my Premium Support™️.

[proven aspen]

laqqqqqqqqqqqqq

[river robin]

like I would sooner burn it all down then offer "pay for jar" premium system

[short wave]

please do not do premium on paper hangar, there has to be a better way to do money

[river robin]

its that bad

[stiff pulsar]

krusic's premium support rn: are you running bungee? update.

[inland socket]

definitley minimal ads

[river robin]

Kenny Premium Support Chat: Is it right-side up? flip it upside down

[austere island]

Same on the PS Discord and AuthMe.

[stiff pulsar]

rez, hangar's supposed to have optional donations for support, but no proper premium stuff

[short wave]

yeah that's way better

[inland socket]

Tip jar

[river robin]

yes

[stiff pulsar]

this was basically the initial discussion https://github.com/MiniDigger/Vue-Hangar/issues/1

we have uppercase us.myles.ViaVersion.x™️

[river robin]

you need to realize that bukkit is many many many people's first introduction to java

and in many cases programming in general

some of them just build on what they learn along the way, which is often not great, and then you end up with these people who have been around but the code and syntax is bad

[little pawn]

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/AllListeners/GlicthListeners.java

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/AllListeners/onPreprocessCommand.java

[random saffron]

I mean that's a bad kotlin file name too

[little pawn]

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/Containers/Allias.java

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/Containers/Snd.java

[random saffron]

Is this supposed to be a binary compatible thing with their implementation???

[fair prawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[random saffron]

that is the worst idea ever

[little pawn]

    public Player getPlayerSender() {
  return sender;
    }

[austere island]

Do we have the /locate patch?
If not, it's very fast even without it.

[short wave]

seed based feature search got dropped for now as mojang seems to have their own now, so that's probably why it's fast

needs to be looked at more

[stiff pulsar]

spaces, not tabs

[random saffron]

they copy pasted their implementation and ripped out all the business logic

and called it an api

[austere island]

Even this abomination was instant, so might also be seed based:
https://posili.me/i/2020-06-27_22-48-06.png

[little pawn]

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/Locale/LC.java

WTF IS THAT

[random saffron]

that is not how any of this works

[zinc summit]

This code is uh

[somber belfry]

@austere island someone was talking about that last night, think mojang made it seed based

[austere island]

Seems like it.

[slow gulch]

Making said its seed based and it feels seed based but no one has actually checked

[little pawn]

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/Locale/Language.java#L26

[dim turret]

BomBardyGamer can u turn down ur mic its clipping

[short wave]

I have him at like 10%

[stiff pulsar]

50%™️

[somber belfry]

nah mate, his voice clips

irl

[pearl stratus]

some people are just too loud irl

[little pawn]

https://gitlab.com/ruany/LiteBansAPI/-/wikis/Database-Structure that's LiteBans' database structure

[random saffron]

id bigint(20) unsigned

galaxy brain

[short wave]

🤔

my head listening to this

[rancid sentinel]

anyone streaming?

[short wave]

Aikar probably will, not yet though

[rancid sentinel]

alright thanks

[stiff pulsar]

don't need to ask every hour lol, just look at pinned, it'll be there once someone starts

[rancid sentinel]

oh okay

[river robin]

when you make a value signed, you lose one bit you could be using for storage

so if you know the value will never be negative, unsigned is nice, lets you hold larger numbers

some languages, like java, do not have unsigned values however 🙂

[stiff pulsar]

read 8 bits into a short™️

[dim turret]

is this annoying anyone else lmao

[zinc summit]

so relational means say you have a database for users and memes, users have ids, and in the meme table you have ownerid -> the user id?

[short wave]

its been days christian i'm used too it

[little pawn]

https://gitlab.com/ruany/LiteBansAPI/-/wikis/Home#executing-arbitrary-database-queries

there's also that

[dim turret]

i have yet to get used it it

Litebans isn't that bad

[sturdy locust]

i dont understand half of the words being said in this vc lmao

[short wave]

I can't stand people who criticize literally everyone's work, without even the proper knowledge at that

[dim turret]

same

[somber belfry]

https://s.56k.pw/a/YmeBxk6.png

[dim turret]

He makes a point but knows nothing about it

[dim turret]

Its pretty reasonable

[zinc summit]

https://github.com/Zrips/CMI-API/blob/master/src/com/Zrips/CMI/CustomEventTrigers/AnvilLstener.java
TRIGERS? LSTENER?

[random saffron]

an all zero uuid would probably be fine right

[dim turret]

krusic22 do u have that full size

[zinc summit]

that is full size, click open original

[austere island]

https://www.examulator.com/er/3.4/index.html

[dim turret]

no idea why ?width=594&height=867 was appended to the open original url

[austere island]

Most unused option ever created:
https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/Bukkit.yml#database

[granite mortar]

zPermissions used that!

[sturdy locust]

splash potion of milk

[austere island]

Damn. 1 use.

Also most people actually forget that Bukkit can add worlds.

[finite beacon]

rings doorbell

[wise crater]

That seems like something that isn't allowed on spigot

[dim turret]

digital rights management

[wise crater]

I mean, where do i go to get him to delete my data?

[zinc summit]

GDRP?