#general | PaperMC | Page 1828

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:29 AM

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runs

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 AM

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do you just like

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never read what anybody says

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and just talk

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 AM

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sometimes i don't read

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i usually do, though

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when i don't it's because I'm joking

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 AM

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oh wait, fullscreen mode actually does change res, borderless fullscreen does not, it always stretches to my monitor

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 AM

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consider this one of those moments

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:31 AM

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potent fossil > oh wait, fullscreen mode actually does change res, borderless fullscreen does ...

this... makes it sound like borderless fullscreen is what's having issues, though?

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hence my joke

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:31 AM

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anyway this is fullscreen @ 2560x1080 https://owo.whats-th.is/8xSDxMJ.png
this is windowed @ 2560x1080 https://owo.whats-th.is/6LparZq.png

grief

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literally why

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:31 AM

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oh hmm

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the first one looks like 4:3 squished into 16:9 lmao

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 AM

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yes

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even tho the aspect ratio is set at 21:9

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 AM

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perhaps their exclusive fullscreen code does not account for widescreen or something

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borderless fullscreen is essentially the OS rendering the window

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 AM

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borderless fullscreen does the same as fullscreen https://owo.whats-th.is/3Y2fuPR.png

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 AM

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o h

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ok i got what you were actually saying now

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welp

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:34 AM

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and the game detects 2560x1080 and 21:9 aspect ratio so it knows i have widescreen

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this is just a weird gaming on linux moment i guess

floral mesa Dec 28, 2021, 2:37 AM

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kind of surprised it even runs

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oh wait, thats unity

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:37 AM

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that's syndicate.

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 2:37 AM

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gaming on linux

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 2:41 AM

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but it otherwise plays very well

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just have to use windowed mode cause fullscreen and borderless fullscreen are fucky and im not sure why

ashen nacelle Dec 28, 2021, 2:43 AM

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spare venture gaming on linux

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-tyler-perry-madea-madeas-farewell-whats-wrong-with-you-gif-18251457

Tenor

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 3:04 AM

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swimple

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 3:06 AM

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I don't think I'd bother trying to game on Linux

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I mean, I'll do it on the Steam Deck but that's going to mostly be retro stuff

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 3:07 AM

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atayshrug

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Games should be some of the easiest stuff to get working with a WINE-like system but DRM and rootkits made it all complicated

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Who knows

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It runs just fine in windowed mode, I just want muh fullscreen

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the plot thickens

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 3:10 AM

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You also play on hard mode with that wacky 21:9 monitor

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 3:10 AM

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i hit "reset to default display settings" while in fullscreen mode and it set itself to 16:9 1280x720

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https://owo.whats-th.is/LtREmTS.png

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actually looks good, but small

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so it must be stretching 16:9 1280x720 to 2560x1080

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or something like that

remote pelican Dec 28, 2021, 3:17 AM

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potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 3:17 AM

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ok

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Chatting

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Why do servers need daily restarts?

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Is it for ram usage?

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 3:42 AM

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because making world backups while the server is running is bad (generally)

you're basically making copies of files that are potentially being modified at the moment

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 3:43 AM

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they don't need daily restarts, but a restart helps clear up any memory leaks and just in general ensures you have a fresh instance free of any weird runtime related problems that build up over time

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also happens to be a good way to do backups too if you're going to do them offline, which is the safest way to ensure a fully valid backup

void void Dec 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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yep, and you don't even need to have downtime to do it if you set up your server instancing infrastructure to offload players to other servers while one restarts

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Can you run a .NET 6 program natively on Linux or am I gonna need to use Wine?

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Trying to boot a 658016 disassembler

void void Dec 28, 2021, 4:16 AM

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i'd think you would need to use wine

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Cringe. Just thought I'd ask, I don't really follow wine/mono/whatever else people use now anymore.

pale river Dec 28, 2021, 4:48 AM

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.NET is meant to be cross platform

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it is open source

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Anyone had experience with tcp shield

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current host has cloudflare magic transit which took 5m to mitigate an attack

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south matrix Dec 28, 2021, 5:15 AM

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just dont get ddosed

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:17 AM

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that would be nice

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ddos go brrr

Screen_Shot_2021-12-27_at_8.39.28_PM.png

pale river Dec 28, 2021, 5:17 AM

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doesn't seem that large of an issue tbh as long as it isn't frequent

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:18 AM

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12MB/s?

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ddos?

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ok

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:18 AM

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potent fossil 12MB/s?

abby from bloom confirmed it was a ddos

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:18 AM

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daring owl ddos go brrr

i think this isent super acurate

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:18 AM

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that cannot be correct reporting then because if the server drops at 12.00MB/s lol

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that's all i gotta say

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just lol

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:19 AM

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potent fossil that cannot be correct reporting then because if the server drops at 12.00MB/s l...

No i think the graph is inacurate

south matrix Dec 28, 2021, 5:19 AM

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"it only goes up to 12 you just cant see the point at 15Tb/s"

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:19 AM

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your network usage graph doesn't necessarily need to represent a ddos if it's being dropped earlier in the chain of networking

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especially with magic transit, cloudflare is dropping that all long before it hits your server

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:19 AM

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yeah, that's fine, i was just commenting on the "ddos go brrrr" comment and the graph they sent to go with it

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cause that doesnt show what i'd consider a ddos

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:21 AM

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it was 80gbps

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A bit more than graph shoes

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:22 AM

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yes slightly larger

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Tiny bit

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Is that like a large ddos

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:24 AM

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decent

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Anyone have experience with tco shield

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Tcp*

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:29 AM

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you have cloudflare magic transit, not sure what you want tcpshield for

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:29 AM

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serene bolt you have cloudflare magic transit, not sure what you want tcpshield for

Is it better

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Worse I meant

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:30 AM

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cloudflare magic transit is some of the best ddos protection available

half hawk Dec 28, 2021, 5:30 AM

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⚗️

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:31 AM

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serene bolt cloudflare magic transit is some of the best ddos protection available

1/3 my players dipped

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Tco shield was recommended by a friend who owns a Abt 800 player network

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:32 AM

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is your server not online right now? I guess I don't understand the issue

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are you being protected or not lol

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:33 AM

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Sorry I'm not familiar with anti ddos

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Is 5 min to mitigate attack very good

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 5:34 AM

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that is a pretty fast af response yes

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:34 AM

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especially if it's the first attack against your server

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:35 AM

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Ok nvm then

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:35 AM

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I wouldn't expect to see continuous 5 minute downtimes, you should be behind mitigation and likely left behind mitigation as the attack was recognized

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and even then, 5 minute is peanuts in minecraft uptime

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Top pvpers ww freak out over lag but ig I'm vibin then

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:36 AM

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if this type of thing continues to occur and you're not happy with it, I'd talk to bloom support about better mitigation options that they can possibly make for your server

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but I wouldn't go instantly shopping for a solution when you seem to be fine from a first attack

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:36 AM

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First time so I'm prob fine, planning to get a dedi at some point tho

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Is magic transit expensive

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Nvm

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Yes

serene bolt Dec 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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very

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:38 AM

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I see why he uses tcp shield..

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 5:43 AM

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pale river .NET is meant to be cross platform

I should have specified it's Winforms...

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Why anyone would choose to use that over Maui I don't know

merry talon Dec 28, 2021, 5:45 AM

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Magic transit is L4 only, there are other products which produce mc specific filtering

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CF doesn't give two shits if your L7 is not http, they've been very slow with building out MT

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:48 AM

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I thought they had some sort mc specific thing also though

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https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-spectrum/minecraft/

Cloudflare

Cloudflare Spectrum accelerates and protects your Minecraft server ...

Cloudflare Spectrum accelerates and protects your Minecraft server

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I am big noob when it comes to network stuff

little frost Dec 28, 2021, 5:48 AM

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that's not magic transfer but yes

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Is it good

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Or like

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Idk

merry talon Dec 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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just looks like a targeted use case ad page tbh

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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What should you guys recommend for a ovh dedi

merry talon Dec 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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you could say it protects anything as long as it runs over TCP/UDP

daring owl Dec 28, 2021, 5:49 AM

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daring owl What should you guys recommend for a ovh dedi

This is my real question lol

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Oh boy, Lindsay Ellis is trending on twitter again

merry talon Dec 28, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Whomst

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 5:55 AM

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It's just because she's retiring

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Literally nothing noteworthy if you're not a fan of hers

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 5:56 AM

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The title of her post is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas

The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas

"The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" is a 1973 work of short philosophical fiction by American writer Ursula K. Le Guin. With deliberately both vague and vivid descriptions, the narrator depicts a summer festival in the utopian city of Omelas, whose prosperity depends on the perpetual misery of a single child. "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas...

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lol, the top review on google when you search for that story is a 1 star review calling it pornography and comparing it to abortion

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:04 AM

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there is

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I got gifted hypixel VIP and Discord Nitro Classic in the same month

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a

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ibxtoycat has a series on it lmao

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paper is a java server

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What?

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you can't

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but those don't work on 1.18 anyways

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custom seeds wont bypass that

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:07 AM

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paper has a mitiation for that anyways?

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 6:07 AM

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And notice -1.17]

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1.18 made bedrock generate unique per world now

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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I mean, the mitigation is there

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You are more than welcome to submit a PR

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:08 AM

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lol

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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It's a game where everything is determinate

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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ah yes, the good ol "PR or shut up"

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classic

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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give it a few months they'll just figure out how to reverse that

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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why are you trying to avoid seed discover anyways

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boring 🥱

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:09 AM

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the entire gen system is determinate

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The only way to actually fix this shit is to not use vanillas world gen system

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and if you salted it you'd drastically change how the gen algo works

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:10 AM

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golden gust The only way to actually fix this shit is to not use vanillas world gen system

use random numbers for every block and not use seed

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the random numbers are generated via a dice machine or something

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Well, I mean

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it's already fucking salted somewhere iirc

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or, at least

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the random seed is messed with in order to achieve some aspects of the determination crap

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:12 AM

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anarchy minecraft socialcredit

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:13 AM

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ooooooof

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china yeeted steam

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 6:14 AM

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golden gust and if you salted it you'd drastically change how the gen algo works

You wanna reply to the report then? :)

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:17 AM

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or might have been a glitch in the matrix there

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screwing with the gen system much is not something we care to do

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Open a ticket for the other thing.

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Don't just pile four things into one report.

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(Github issue, not another report)

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Replace four with "a bunch of"

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But yeah the other thing is better as a github issue.

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With the understanding that it's gonna be a pretty low priority.

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Unless you or someone else PRs it.

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 6:29 AM

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You know, back in the day when I said I thought you could discover seeds by examining the world people thought it'd be like breaking RSA or something

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Now people who don't really know how to program write tools to do it in minutes and everyone freaks out about it

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 6:29 AM

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All it takes is one person.

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Yeah

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Custom gen is where it's at.

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Then you can't crack anything.

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 6:30 AM

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I guess I should have tried harder than looking at it for 10 minutes and saying "this looks exploitable"

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worldgen code was always so terrible to try to look at though

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 6:31 AM

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That's why Leaf does it.

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He's a glutton for punishment. @static badge

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 6:53 AM

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I mean, that info shouldn't be exposed in timing reports, and if it is, that's a bug

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 6:55 AM

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Shift click to reply without mention enabled.

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Just hit shift when you reply in Discord.

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That'll turn off the mention.

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You have two shift keys.

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Okay well - take your time in the future and click the little icon, then. Don't ping cat. You know better.

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 7:01 AM

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daydreaming about eating enormous quantities of cheese

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:01 AM

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that reminded me

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Did you know that the ass is the one part of the body which can produce all 3 states of matter?

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

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unsubscribe

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:03 AM

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oh, and somebody I know posted this beaut

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potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:03 AM

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but technically there are four states of matter, can your ass produce plasma cat

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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Yea, I know

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my BFF is a pakistani

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:04 AM

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understandable have a nice day

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 7:06 AM

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ok

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 7:12 AM

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golden gust Did you know that the ass is the one part of the body which can produce all 3 st...

This isn't even correct, the mouth exists

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:13 AM

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sir/ette

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might one suggest one sits on a stick

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 7:13 AM

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potent fossil but technically there are four states of matter, can your ass produce plasma cat

shitting @ 10000°C as we speak

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Cat, regarding the conversation about backing an NMS item stack for bukkit items… are PRS welcome for that?

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(Despite it being a very large task)

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 AM

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The worse part of having a pakistani BFF

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Is when you're sitting there, your tongue losing layers from the plasma you place upon it in shovels, tears streaming down your eyes like a waterfall, and you just can't stop shovelling

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 AM

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keep in mind an englishman is referring to spiciness here

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 AM

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anybody wanna try some bread?

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This shit spicy af

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 AM

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❤️

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 AM

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To be fair, her parents are ooooold

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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that's funny

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Which, is basically ass cancer because like

viscid wedge Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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what do they make that's so spicy?

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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foggy silo Cat, regarding the conversation about backing an NMS item stack for bukkit item...

(#paper-dev message for reference)

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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you actually kinda get used to the spices

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and so, as you get older, you up the spices

void void Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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British "people" think mayonnaise is spicy

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true story

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 AM

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if you forget about it for too long, yea

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Owen, kinda, sorta, Like, it's something we defo wanna do but theres so many caveats for it that idk

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:19 AM

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It makes sense, I’ve been playing around with it and I’ve had to basically implement our own meta classes.

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It works quite well, my idea was to store the item inside the meta. (Then basically meta is now a wrapper around an nbt compound)

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:21 AM

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it's one of those kinda post hardfork things because it requires cleaning up soooo much shit in the process of it

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replacing ItemMeta is also one of the many long term goals too :L

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:22 AM

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Well… I did it in a way that it works with current item meta. It basically just adds it’s own paper implementions.

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(I override the item factory)

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Yea, but theres a few requests and things which I have in mind which are behavioral changes over that thing

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data driven go brr, etc

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Ahh

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:23 AM

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Much stuff basically kinda needs to be redesigned as an ECS like system around a non ECS system, in a sense

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Like, people want live itemstack modifications instead of clone, transform, mutate, transform flows for stacks

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as well as data-driven go brrr...

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:25 AM

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Yea what I was trying to do was to just implement onto what we already had. It is pretty easy to make it a live version since it’s backed by the raw nbt compound, but yea it’s still backed by the same cumbersome api.

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I didn’t go too far with it (haven’t finished all the implementations for the craft metas), so I was curious if I should try putting this in a draft pull request, or some issue… or just leaving it off for when the time comes for you guys.

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:27 AM

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basically, theres many systems imho which need to be reworked before we can really get to that stage, things which am not sure we should be touching until we get away from spigot

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:28 AM

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Alright, well thanks!

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:38 AM

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tldr sponge

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spongehero

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Or, well, a simplified version of what sponge is trying to do maybe

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Pretty much, yea

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Like, it's the annoyance of wanting to kinda retain the buggy bumpers that bukkit provides in a game where the data access which sponge aims to provide is more and more critical

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:43 AM

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hard fork you could also rebuild things as a fabric mod and leave the optimization stuff to lithium, starlight, and datafixer mods 😄

strong snow Dec 28, 2021, 8:17 AM

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qq

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help pls

coarse lily Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 AM

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strong snow help pls

If you need help with Paper post your question in #paper-help

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Just use windows

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Gaming on Linux surely works but how well does it work is ehh

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I ended up switching to windows for games and I’m happy with it tbh

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:04 AM

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for me, that "just boot windows" is such a PITA cos it means closing everything

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then going to deal with windows

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and, just, like, urgh

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:04 AM

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clearly the solution is to exclusively use windows

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also, I found a glitch in the matrix, I can connect to my citrix workspace from my private PC now

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meaning I can skip my dum laptop when working from home

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that also means I could screenshot work code so you can see my cool shit

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:07 AM

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I think I might go Intel again for my next desktop so I can try to use Linux

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iGPU gets used in Linux and the 3070 gets forwarded to a Windows VM

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:08 AM

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vernal moth clearly the solution is to exclusively use windows

I did this for a while and it was quite good actually but the issue was changing java versions

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:08 AM

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That way I can use my desktop for running containers for things without messing around with WSL2

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:08 AM

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That's the fun of WSL in general

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they created it as a ploy to try to keep devs using windows given how unviable it's basically become

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Hmm, I wonder if I can look at my IOMMU regions in Windows, I might be able to do that with my current system too

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:09 AM

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and WSL creates as many issues as it seems to solve

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:09 AM

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That's the trick, some systems don't separate the PCIe slots from things like your NIC for IOMMU so you can't pass just the GPU to a VM

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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magic river iGPU gets used in Linux and the 3070 gets forwarded to a Windows VM

This is actually something I’ve considered if I get a beefier cpu and gpu

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But with macOS instead

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So not sure if it’d work

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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part of my goal is that I just wanna make a headless machine or something

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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macOS on x86 is dead

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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it still has some years to go

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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Like, it works now and might even work for another couple years but they'll be dropping it fast once everything is updated

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 AM

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few years

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like, as soon as their last intel machine comes out that's your 5 year mark

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Plus dedicated GPUs on macOS are a shitshow

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You can only use like 2 generation old nvidia stuff or one of half a dozen AMD models

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 AM

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hackintosh is great as a stepping stone imho

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:12 AM

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There is no way they'll support x86 macs for 5 years after the ARM Mac Pro comes out

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:12 AM

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5 years is their typical support pattern

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:12 AM

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Leopard came out in 2007 and was the last to support PPC

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:12 AM

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I can't see them changing that but, who knows

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:12 AM

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They started the x86 migration in 2006

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Well, 5 years is their current support cycle which is what am basing it on

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That's gonna be the shame of the pathways forwards is that hackintosh is probs gonna be dead, I can't see how they'd pull that off otherwise

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:15 AM

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magic river You can only use like 2 generation old nvidia stuff or one of half a dozen AMD m...

I believe you can use all dedicated amd gpus

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:16 AM

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But, at least for me, I was using one for a year or two and when I got a new machine, I couldn't be assed with linux and didn't wanna switch to windows, so, going for the real deal made a lot of sense in some respects, especially as am not much of a gamer because brain go brr

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:16 AM

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As long as they’re decently new

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:16 AM

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Issue generally is driver support

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:16 AM

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For example, the RX 6900 is supported, which I’m guessing is for the Mac Pro

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:16 AM

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plucky sparrow I did this for a while and it was quite good actually but the issue was changing...

why is that an issue? I just have a folder with all java installs and a script on path that changes path and javahome

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:17 AM

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they've gotten better with AMD given that they use their stuff exclusively on x86, but, it's pretty much a case of "here is a list of things you can use and that's what you've got"

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theres stuff ike sdkman, etc

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I kinda wanna see how nix works on mac

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but, I kinda don't wanna fuck around with my current setup...so, er...

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:17 AM

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vernal moth why is that an issue? I just have a folder with all java installs and a script o...

I still don’t know how changing the path works, it’s just such a mess

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It’s probably similar in macOS but I haven’t installed Java there yet

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:18 AM

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speaking of java

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jdiff for java 17 somebody out there plz ;-;

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:18 AM

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This is such a weird carve out https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/24/22852966/apple-netherlands-dating-apps-match-tinder-app-store-competition

The Verge

Apple must let dating apps offer alternate in-app payment options, ...

It has two months to make changes before facing fines

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:18 AM

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its basically the same for any OS dap

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lmao

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:18 AM

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no

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Arch had archlinux-java

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Truly a lifesaver

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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On Debian systems you have a generic system for this, update-alternatives

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But that's for changing which one you're using system wide

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Yeah that too

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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Yea, that's the issue is that it's system wide

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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lmao

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https://i.imgur.com/tQ6fpvW.png

Imgur

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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creates its own set of issues ;-;

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that's ass

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but, so r u

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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the scripts are just

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set JAVA_HOME=D:\Programms\jdk-17
set PATH=%JAVA_HOME%\bin;%PATH%
java -version

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:19 AM

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On any system you can just... that

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:20 AM

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that will only apply to current terminal session

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so exactly what I want

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Programms

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:20 AM

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its german

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runs

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:20 AM

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The only German I know is how to make cookies with no eggs

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:21 AM

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its Programme in german

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so programms is minilang

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:21 AM

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only german I kinda remember is stuff from my sperm donors war films and shit

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So, probs not stuff I wanna repeat

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:21 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82XqhHYwB-Q

YouTube

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vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:21 AM

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lmao tool

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:22 AM

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and, ofc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY

YouTube

NENA

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magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:22 AM

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It turns out even cookie recipes sound evil with the right music behind them, so long as you say them in German

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:22 AM

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Classic bad guy trope 😄

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Oh btw it's the fun cookies, forgot that part

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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But idk after returning to Windows 10 just for gaming I’m starting to ask myself why did I like windows

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I need to reinstall my shit and sort my files and shit for windows 11

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but I really dont want to

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Why’s that

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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new year

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new OS install

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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Can’t you just update

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I could

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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golden gust new year

new month*

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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but I also got two new 2tb drives

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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I mean, I like to just have a clean slate here and there

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:24 AM

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AND NO EGGS

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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rebuild my setup, make the tweaks I wanna try

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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I run 4 500gb ssds right now

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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vernal moth but I also got two new 2tb drives

You can like copy the data over I believe

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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e.g. next reinstall, am probs gonna fuck with nix

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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I need to sort my shit

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Or that’s what I saw people do back in the day

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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(probs before I just yeet it and switch back to brew)

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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my current SSDs are just dying since they old

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:25 AM

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I mean

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This one time, I DD'd a disk that wasn't even plugged in

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:26 AM

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But man I really want a 2tb NVMe

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It sounds like heaven

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:27 AM

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I have a 850 evo with 29tb written a 750 evo with 1tb written but I think that one is just dead, it doesn't show up half of the time, a 960 evo with 14tb written and a 970 evo with 27tb written

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so yeah, new stuff is needed

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especially since they all only 500 gb and almost full

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:28 AM

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that’s the issue with ssds and the only thing I’m afraid of with my current nvme

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:28 AM

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so I did get a 980 pro 2tb and a 870 evo 2tb, but I just need to move stuff and install them 😄

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:28 AM

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I don’t even want to check the health on my nvme

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:28 AM

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oh they all report as good in magician

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:29 AM

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ooh Samsung is apparently planning a trifold phone

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That really would unfold in to a tablet

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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because 2 creases > 1 crease

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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And it would fold into a hugely thick phone

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Why is Samsung so obsessed with foldables

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Well, I guess it's more of an accordion fold? A Z fold?

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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foldables are cool

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if you have a usecase

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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Oh yes the aspect ratio when unfolded is so good

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 10:30 AM

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While they are at it make some slots for my cash

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On the phone itself

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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cash

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Gotta love multitasking in two super tall screens

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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2022

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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Presumably they can make the bits that aren't screen thinner for each segment so it wouldn't just be the current foldable but 1/3 thicker

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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warm anchor While they are at it make some slots for my cash

There actually is! It’s called Samsung pay

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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you some kinda criminal that you use cash?

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 10:31 AM

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OMEGALUL

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 10:32 AM

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I think the only time I ran in to a situation where I couldn't use cash in the US was on a plane

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But I've heard cashless shops are a thing other places

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:34 AM

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These days I can use contactless pretty much everywhere bar takeaways

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:34 AM

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especially now with pandemic people will hate you for using cash

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it takes longer, it means touching stuff, its just a pain for everybody involved

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Mini you really hate touching stuff

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:35 AM

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Many of those are on delivery platforms so you can just pre-order as you walk there, but, like, closest chippy I know of which is on a delivery platform is a reasonable distance away

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Like, still close enough to order from but I wouldn't walk there type of deal

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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But yes contactless is really good tbf

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Some places still don't allow card for low amounts for whatever dumb reason

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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If only people realized they could use their phone to pay instead of their card

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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plucky sparrow Mini you really hate touching stuff

I don't hate touching everything

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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wide chasm Some places still don't allow card for low amounts for whatever dumb reason

Oh there’s a very clear reason, taxes

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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there are things I really like touching

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:36 AM

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the providers of that stuff often charge per transaction

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/dead-pool-ryan-reynolds-im-touching-myself-tonight-gun-smell-gif-5173891

Tenor

I'm touching myself tonight - Deadpool

▶ Play video

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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it's like a flat fee + some % of the transaction

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Sometimes whatever you’re buying that costs so little will result in the store getting no money at all because of the taxes / fees from the bank

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Generally low but when you're talking small purchases, it gets annoying

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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Here I can pay by card for a single cent

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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plucky sparrow Sometimes whatever you’re buying that costs so little will result in the store g...

sounds like we need a public payment processor then or to regulate visa and mastercard more

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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few years ago it used to be the case that the card companies would actually charge extra for small purchases

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 10:37 AM

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plucky sparrow If only people realized they could use their phone to pay instead of their card

My cash don’t run on batteries and my backstreet vendor for the best sandwich in town don’t take card

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:38 AM

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using your phone to pay has privacy implications

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Was a time or two when our purchase was just a few pence under and the cashier would tell us that they added a few extra pence on the transaction or something just to take us over that limit

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:38 AM

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Currently in Austria, got a drink somewhere, wanted to pay by card, but no, you haven't spend 10 euros yet smh

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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if you only drank for 10 euros, what are you even doing?

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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vernal moth sounds like we need a public payment processor then or to regulate visa and mast...

I don’t think that’s Visa’s or Mastercard’s fault, sometimes the PoS / payment terminal providers (generally banks) apply a small fee in each purchase

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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thats just one cocktail, smh

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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plucky sparrow I don’t think that’s Visa’s or Mastercard’s fault, sometimes the PoS / payment t...

regulate them to then

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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everybody takes a small amount of the transaction up to the reciver

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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I wasn't going out or smth, I was thirsty and wanted a drink

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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regulate who to what?

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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everybody

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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At the end of the day, you gotta make $$$ to keep in business

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:39 AM

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regulate everybody until they do what I want

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banks have plenty of ways to earn money, no?

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

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Well, banks pay for withdrawls, etc

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

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heck, considering how much money the public pumped into banks in 2008, we own them anyways

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:40 AM

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if I take cash out, my bank takes a hit

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

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see, more incentive to have no transaction fee on cashless then

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Like, the atm provider puts on a small fee in order to fund their ops

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Taking cash out also has fees, you gotta do it in your bank’s ATM if you don’t want to get charged 1.5 damn euros

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

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most banks will take that hit for you, some will charge you for it, but, that's rare

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Unless your bank refunds the fee

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Taking cash from an ATM doesn't cost you money here

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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contactless also has fees added onto it which anybody offering has to make back

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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plucky sparrow Taking cash out also has fees, you gotta do it in your bank’s ATM if you don’t w...

not if you with a decent bank, I can get money world wide at any ATM

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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doesn't cost you

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it costs your bank more than likely, however

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Taking cash from an ATM can cost you like 1.5/2 euros if the atm is not managed by your bank

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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thats why I said we should let the public operate that infra cat

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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But some banks will actually refund that small amount so that’s nice of them

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:42 AM

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its critical infrastructure, it shouldn't be controlled by big faceless companies

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:43 AM

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our gov couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

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not sure I really trust them with "the cheapest bidder" public infra shit

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:43 AM

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ECB should

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:43 AM

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Only time I had to pay fees for money withdrawal are in foreign countries at the most scammy looking ATMs in existence

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:44 AM

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I saw a good vid on that a while back which I can't be assed to look

#

big thing is to basically use the local currency, and some ATMs can make that a pita to do

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mastercard or visa's rates are probs gonna be muuuuch better than theirs

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:44 AM

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wide chasm Only time I had to pay fees for money withdrawal are in foreign countries at the...

Banks are just plain assholes in Spain

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It only keeps getting worse with banks buying other banks kekw

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Yea, that's always fun

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when your bank is bought up by another bank, woooo

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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I had to switch banks earlier this year because of it

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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and, for the love of fuck their phone apps, jesus fuck

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❤️ Monzo

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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LOL

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omg yes bank apps always suck

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:45 AM

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super happy with my bank

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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I was very happy with mine too but it got bought by some other bank

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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they don't bother with a phone app, they just have a decent website that they ship as an app with native stuff like biometrics

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works perfectly fine

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Issue here is that the banks are old as shit as getting started up is a headache

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our legacy banks are just, legacy

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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EU makes starting easier nowadays with psd2

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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old websites which don't always work super great with mobile devices

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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My bank app works decently, but there's some stuff you can only access on the website and, like, please just put that in the app as well

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:46 AM

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all banks have to have public APIs

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:47 AM

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We also have fun stuff like our keypads which are "fun"

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Do y'all have the card reader pin pads?

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 10:47 AM

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my bank app is great

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Banks in Spain have awful apps

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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like a tan generator cat?

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Literally looks like they were made in 2010

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

#

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Some even use their own fucking keyboard instead of whatever keyboard your OS uses

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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Used to, don't believe they're used anymore

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:48 AM

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yea, tan generator

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My current bank doesn't use them

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but, my old bank still does

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:49 AM

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you can use whatever tan generator you want cat

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its still the most secure way

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:49 AM

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And then there’s coordinate cards which seem like quite an outdated security method

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Yea, but, having to use your TAN is a PITA when doing transactions from your phone

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:50 AM

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my bank is actually publicly owned, so thats cool

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:50 AM

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Stop flexing your bank

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:51 AM

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Would be nice if my bank's interest wasn't 0% lol

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But at least the interest isn't negative

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:51 AM

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my bank iwants to do interest, but, currently doesn't

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They do have a thing which will use other companies however, in-app

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:52 AM

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banks can't give interest because ECB doesn't give interest

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and ECB said they don't want to change anything any time soon

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they want people to spend the money to drive the economy

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:53 AM

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i'd get interest on my legacy account

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:53 AM

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US did the same for the last years but is looking to change now iirc

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 10:53 AM

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But I want money :(

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 10:53 AM

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invest it then

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having money in the bank is a waste

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Yeah I prefer cash under my matress

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 10:56 AM

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in a cashless society

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how would you throw cash around your room?

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 10:56 AM

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Wallpaper

ashen cliff Dec 28, 2021, 10:59 AM

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golden gust how would you throw cash around your room?

VISA prepaid cards.

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 11:00 AM

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look, I made like 5 bucks today https://i.imgur.com/m8pWe6g.png

Imgur

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by doing nothing

#

I love capitalism

merry talon Dec 28, 2021, 11:12 AM

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vernal moth my bank is actually publicly owned, so thats cool

so a credit union?

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they're def the way to go

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 11:18 AM

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idk what that is

#

they are a proper publicly traded company technically, just fully owned by the state

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 11:29 AM

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/ZHUHOO-Finally-Bedroom-Square-Decorative/dp/B07ZZDGKTY/

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mfw

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 11:34 AM

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I wish I wasn't

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 11:42 AM

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Id buy

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 12:00 PM

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Uncle roger of Chilli: "For flavour, use the right amount, not the white amount"

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 12:39 PM

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@tropic flame i found something really good

#

there's a doraemon channel in YT

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I believe it's official, they have a shitton of episodes there

#

there's both an spanish one and a portuguese one

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:14 PM

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google search console be like

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https://i.imgur.com/zAOIPlj.png

Imgur

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I wonder when I released the last update

#

the failing are almost all CLS now

#

where we have no skeletons

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:18 PM

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vernal moth look, I made like 5 bucks today https://i.imgur.com/m8pWe6g.png

What do you invest in?

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:20 PM

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just dum fonds

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I don't like actually doing stuff

#

so I just give my money to people and let they do it

#

my stuff goes stonk tho

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https://i.imgur.com/TrrSrsV.png

Imgur

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Yeah, I know nothing about money, so if I would invest I'd want to do it in something that requires no effort on my part with a near zero percent chance of losing money

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:22 PM

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you can choose the risk

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this is one of my high risk ones

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it goes really stonk

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https://i.imgur.com/krXC5mK.png

Imgur

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idk what it is

#

something something water

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"PICTET-WATER - P EUR ACC"

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:24 PM

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What do you use for investing? Is this just part of your bank or are you using something separate?

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:24 PM

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how am I supposed to know what that is?

#

I do it via my company

#

the first screenshot even is an ETF managed by my company

#

but yeah, can just do it via your bank

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:26 PM

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I don't know if my bank has that

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:26 PM

#

apparently I also did infest in a fond that buy apple and tesla and shit

#

https://i.imgur.com/nYTmhY3.png

Imgur

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infest, yes mini, thats right

#

idk I have no clue what I am doing, that even lost me 15 euro actually

#

but am up overall by a mile so as long that doesnt change I will not change anything

#

once a year a schedule a checkin with somebody at work who tells me that am doing amazing and I can go back to not caring

#

its kinda passive income really, I get money because I own money, isn't capitalism fun?

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:29 PM

#

I love capitalism

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:29 PM

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but hey, I didn't choose the game, but since I am forced to play it, might as well try to do well

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Apparently my bank does have an investing thing, gonna check it out

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 PM

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#politics lurks in the background

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 PM

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inb4 I'm broke tomorrow :P

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 PM

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they your bank, just call them up, tell them you wanna invest and they will be happy to help

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they gonna schedule like a interview where they ask question and then you get placed in a risk group, they explain you stuff and then suggest what to do

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 2:30 PM

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I just found out google is owned by alphabet

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:31 PM

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good moring dap

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that was how many years ago?

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5 and a half years

#

holy hell

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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I thought google was its own independent company tbf

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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alphabet is google

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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alphabet = google

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facebook = meta

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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plucky sparrow there's both an spanish one and a portuguese one

oh pog

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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raider = twix

tropic flame Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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hotel = trivago

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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Yeah so why not keep google = google

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:32 PM

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larry and sergey split it off so stuff didn't have to all be under google

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google could have products under it that make sense

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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it was restructured so that they can easier yolo off money for moonshot projects

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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but companies like youtube or the waymo could be separate

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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Huawei Watch GT 2 software update running. kekwhyper

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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like all the shit google X does

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guess its not called google X anymore

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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it's just x

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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I knew about the Facebook one but not google

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:33 PM

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they own https://x.company/, thats cool

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 2:34 PM

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I had heard about alphabet but refused to believe it

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:34 PM

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did anything ever come out of X?

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I guess waimo

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 2:35 PM

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plucky sparrow I had heard about alphabet but refused to believe it

So you're an an-alphabet. kekwhyper

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:37 PM

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vernal moth did anything ever come out of X?

Waymo, Glass, Project Loon, Project Wing, Verily, Dandelion, Chronicle, among other things

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 2:41 PM

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cunning raft Waymo, Glass, Project Loon, Project Wing, Verily, Dandelion, Chronicle, among ot...

Aren't they all dead?
Waymo -> didn't hear for a long time
Glass -> cancelled due privacy issues

The others -> didn't really hear oft them.

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:42 PM

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all of those are active

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Waymo has a self driving taxi service in Colorado atm

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Glass is enterprise now

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Loon is its own company

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Wing is its own company

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same for the rest

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 2:43 PM

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So basically nothing that is really available outside the US.

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Wing is primarily AU iirc

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chronicle is on google cloud

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I did it again, told somebody to ask me again next year at work

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I love the end of the year

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 3:09 PM

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vernal moth they your bank, just call them up, tell them you wanna invest and they will be h...

Okay, I invested 50 euros in a relatively safe fund. No idea if that's too much or too little, if the fund is too safe or too dangerous, but I'll see ig

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 3:22 PM

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I mean, every cent counts I guess

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 3:40 PM

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If it goes well, I can always add more

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 3:41 PM

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paypal.me/darkeyedragon always a safe investement

charred sleet Dec 28, 2021, 3:48 PM

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want my github copilot access :/

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 3:48 PM

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i heard gamestop is a really good investment

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 3:52 PM

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visit any crack alleys recently?

charred sleet Dec 28, 2021, 3:56 PM

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spare venture i heard gamestop is a really good investment

i mean, it was a really good investment

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some of my family made some money off it

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 3:58 PM

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i hope your family is never allowed to touch an investment app again

charred sleet Dec 28, 2021, 3:58 PM

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kek

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 3:58 PM

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making money off something by chance doesn't make it a good investment

charred sleet Dec 28, 2021, 3:59 PM

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oh well yeah absolutely, i just meant for some people it turned out great

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 3:59 PM

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the minority of people

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:00 PM

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no politics jrou

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Chatting

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:01 PM

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worn ember paypal.me/darkeyedragon always a safe investement

I’ll invest anything into that PayPal as long as it results in no more ded

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 4:02 PM

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I am the arbiter of politics

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:02 PM

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who even asked

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pokiModCheck

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Lmao I saw someone send a message here and they had a bio with all sorts of 18+ links

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:03 PM

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u better not have clicked them dap

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I'll report you to the police

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I didn’t wtf

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I was gonna report it but I’m not sure if it’s allowed

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He just got banned?

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Did I just presence a ban

chrome cosmos Dec 28, 2021, 4:07 PM

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hmmmmm mods clearng sus work

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 4:07 PM

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🍄

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:07 PM

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peepoRiot

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:07 PM

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dang

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This is peace

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 4:10 PM

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orwell's 1984

golden gust Dec 28, 2021, 4:10 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ9doQw9yus

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wow, that's a shit version of it

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oh, YT took me over to the exorcist instead of scary movie

marble lark Dec 28, 2021, 4:16 PM

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cunning raft I am the arbiter of politics

someone needs to add a /politics command that just pings JRoy whenever it's run

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:17 PM

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@waxen panther

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koriLaugh

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:20 PM

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kekwhyper

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 4:21 PM

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marble lark someone needs to add a /politics command that just pings JRoy whenever it's run

great idea

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:21 PM

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@cunning raft thoughts

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spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 4:21 PM

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you’re really showing them

marble lark Dec 28, 2021, 4:23 PM

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twin lagoon <@!194473148161327104> thoughts

what was the original message again

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:27 PM

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I wanna know too

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:29 PM

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ashen cliff Dec 28, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Big Rat Monster.

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:32 PM

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it said "jroy is phony"

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then joey power abused!

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 4:42 PM

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we need to document these abuses to submit them to the UN humanitarian council

edgy palm Dec 28, 2021, 4:44 PM

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marble lark what was the original message again

if u realy want to know it then here it is
(ples dont ban me)

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"i decided to leave and announced it and why did i get banned banning someone who complied is rude"

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:44 PM

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@cunning raft thoughts

edgy palm Dec 28, 2021, 4:44 PM

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somewat like this

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im back i asked jroy for unban he agreed

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 4:48 PM

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@wispy blade how is your day

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 4:49 PM

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kekwhyper

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Hello, I'm having problems launching Minecraft on OS X 10.11. When I try to open it, it just crashes with exit code 0.

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:58 PM

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provide logs

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 4:58 PM

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There exist no logs.

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:58 PM

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there are always logs

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look at your launcher

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Or at least I can't find them

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 4:59 PM

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turn on the console

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Where do I do that?

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Launcher setting

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:01 PM

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I enabled it, and it doesn't appear.

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Nevermind, it does open, but it doesn't say anything.

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I can't provide any logs because the game crashed even before it can print anything.

edgy palm Dec 28, 2021, 5:06 PM

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be proe

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be amongOS user

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:07 PM

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pastel reef I can't provide any logs because the game crashed even before it can print anyth...

Sad, any other profile works? Just create a new one and test it.

edgy palm Dec 28, 2021, 5:07 PM

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E

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:08 PM

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topaz mortar Sad, any other profile works? Just create a new one and test it.

Profile Works?

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:08 PM

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pastel reef Profile Works?

That ist the question you need to answer.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Oh, well I can log into an Account just fine if that is what you mean.

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:10 PM

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pastel reef Oh, well I can log into an Account just fine if that is what you mean.

Talking about minecraft profile not different acount.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Sorry, that's where my knowledge ends, what is a Profile and where can I see its state?

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I moved the launcher via usb if that makes a difference.

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:14 PM

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pastel reef Sorry, that's where my knowledge ends, what is a Profile and where can I see its...

With the launcher you can switch between multiple Minecraft versions with so called Profiles. e.g Forge installer creates a profile, the Optifine does it as well.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Alright, let me see.

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I am able to create profiles, yes.

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:16 PM

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Yeah then create a new one so that it is a fresh one.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Well when I tried to make one for 1.18, the game crashed the same.

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:17 PM

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Tried it with a different version, to be sure it is a non version specific issue.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I'm trying it right now with 1.17.1 and it's taking ages.

edgy palm Dec 28, 2021, 5:19 PM

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Look at my pfp

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so good

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 5:34 PM

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no

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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https://twitter.com/YNizry/status/1475764153373573120?t=I3Isyw50lfpXqYsTjzWolQ&s=19

Yaniv Nizry (@YNizry)

Stay tuned for a blogpost ;)

Retweets

281

Likes

844

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Fucking trolls

quasi valley Dec 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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is that a troll or is log4j the troll omegalul

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Or both?

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Who knows

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Only thing that is for certain

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Is that am to drunk to use discord

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And should just put down my phone

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For everyone's sake

fallen oracle Dec 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Lol

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Best comment:

fallen oracle Dec 28, 2021, 5:53 PM

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So that was what, 9 hours ago? If it's real, they taking their sweet time.

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Bahaha someone really said "time to get your booster patches"

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 6:21 PM

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vernal moth https://twitter.com/YNizry/status/1475764153373573120?t=I3Isyw50lfpXqYsTjzWolQ&s...

now I'm starting to support that feature request to just disable logging...

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 6:26 PM

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System.out.println() never gave me a RCE

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:27 PM

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brave radish now I'm starting to support that feature request to just disable logging...

Jup, just disable it and do work to extract that feature into a module.

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Doesn't the JDK have it's own logger api.. 🤔

red timber Dec 28, 2021, 6:30 PM

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spare venture System.out.println() never gave me a RCE

except when system.out is redirected to log4j :^)

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 6:32 PM

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very true

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:33 PM

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topaz mortar Tried it with a different version, to be sure it is a non version specific issue...

After waiting for an entire hour for the game to load, 1.16.5 starts successfully.

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 6:34 PM

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@mossy vessel pleataco

void void Dec 28, 2021, 6:34 PM

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vernal moth https://twitter.com/YNizry/status/1475764153373573120?t=I3Isyw50lfpXqYsTjzWolQ&s...

not again...

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please

mossy vessel Dec 28, 2021, 6:34 PM

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hello michele

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:35 PM

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pastel reef After waiting for an entire hour for the game to load, 1.16.5 starts successfull...

How old is your hardware? Mojang did update LWJGL somewhere around 1.17.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:36 PM

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13 YEARS OLD

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:36 PM

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pastel reef **13 YEARS OLD**

Likely the problem.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:36 PM

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So is it just a performance thing or what?

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 6:37 PM

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void void not again...

Round 2: FIGHT!

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:38 PM

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pastel reef So is it just a performance thing or what?

No, your GPU doesn't support the newer open gl.

Look if your 1.16.5 instance shows some tooltip.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:38 PM

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It runs 1.15 at 60 fps with 8 chunks but in 1.16 it goes down to 30 fps, no Idea why.

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:39 PM

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Press F3 and show your debugscreen.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:43 PM

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potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 6:44 PM

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dat cpu

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:44 PM

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og or potato?

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 6:44 PM

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potat

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 6:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

Tenor

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:45 PM

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It actually runs beautifully for its age

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I'm very tempted to upgrade from El Capitan to Catalina

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I know it's risky but I really don't have much to lose.

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 6:48 PM

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half your frames

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 6:49 PM

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go for it i guess

meager tusk Dec 28, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I love Simple

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Just thought I'd mention that.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 6:53 PM

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topaz mortar How old is your hardware? Mojang did update LWJGL somewhere around 1.17.

No? not unless they went back and did it on older versions too

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AFAIK everything greater than like 1.14 uses the same version

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although they do use an older version on macOS than everything else so maybe other platforms had that version

lament patio Dec 28, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Might be the OpenGL Core Profile bump

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 6:58 PM

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pastel reef

Open GL 2.1 isn't really supported anymore.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Which one is needed?

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 6:58 PM

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3.2

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 6:59 PM

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what exact Mac do you have @pastel reef?

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 7:00 PM

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brave radish No? not unless they went back and did it on older versions too

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/m5sx7p/opengl_32/
Could be that change.

r/Minecraft - opengl 3.2?

3 votes and 6 comments so far on Reddit

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:00 PM

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brave radish what exact Mac do you have <@!782308690505629727>?

Macbook Aluminium 5,1 late 2008

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:01 PM

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that should still support 1.18 (at least GL wise)

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:01 PM

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YAY

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But how?

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:02 PM

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brave radish that should still support 1.18 (at least GL wise)

I'll try downloading 3.2 manually

lament patio Dec 28, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Try updating your graphics drivers

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:03 PM

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lament patio Try updating your graphics drivers

I'll do that too!

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I really appreciate the help of you guys.

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I don't want my friend to play on a Celeron.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:04 PM

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err.... depending on the Celeron, it might actually be faster

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:05 PM

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Believe me, it's never ever faster.

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I just noticed something

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:06 PM

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pastel reef I'll try downloading 3.2 manually

you can't exactly do that, just make sure you grab the latest OS version available

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:06 PM

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My Minecraft only crashed 50% of the time so maybe I'm being to impatient, I'm gonna give it 5 Minutes to see if it actually opens 1.18.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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pastel reef Believe me, it's never ever faster.

do you have the model number?

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Because the other 50% of the time, the launcher would just close.

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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brave radish do you have the model number?

No, but I've seen it in action

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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this feels like im watching a battle in futility tbh

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM

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🙂

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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am just sitting here waiting for my adderall to kick in

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cryIgnore

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mornings hurt

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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did u see the playlist simple

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:08 PM

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am listening to it right now

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:11 PM

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pastel reef No, but I've seen it in action

welp, I don't have the exact specs on your computer, but those MacBooks shipped with 2 GB of RAM which is as much as Minecraft expects to have all to itself... that makes no room for your browser, Discord, the JVM, your OS....

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:11 PM

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brave radish you can't exactly do that, just make sure you grab the latest OS version availab...

This thing has 8GB

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:12 PM

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alright that makes things a bit brighter

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Well, the Macbook. The Celeron has 4GB

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:12 PM

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are you the same one that was talking about sodium giving you 3fps?

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Nope

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You think 8GB can handle Catalina?

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:13 PM

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8 GB? Yes. That MacBook? No.

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:13 PM

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catalina min ram is 4gb but the processor you've got, lol

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Mojave?

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yosemite if youre lucky

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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also no

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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or high sierra

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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I'm on El Capitan

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM

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yeah that's the highest that'll run

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I'm risking it for the biscuit, I really have nothing to loose. It's not my primary laptop, I have an xps 13 next to me as well.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:15 PM

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but still make sure you're on the latest version of El Capitan

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 7:15 PM

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use bootcamp and do linux or windogs

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 PM

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I'll try Catalina first, I'm not in the mood to rebuy the launcher.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 PM

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...

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You can't upgrade to Catalina; Apple won't let you even if you try

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Actually I'wondering if somebody knows an IDE extension or standalone tool what could compare properties. Like Eclipse can compare many file types (.properties, .yml, .txt, …) but it will only two a side by side comparison showing missing, new or different text parts. As soon as the order of options within both files is different it fails. However for .properties files only it will also list all different properties of two files no matter in what order the appear in both files. I search something like that for YAML and maybe other formats?

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:16 PM

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There are third party things that will do it anyway (at least for some versions, probably not Catalina) but highly not recommended

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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so you want a content diff tool @tired heath

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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also you don't have to rebuy the launcher, you can just download it again?

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Really?

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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yes

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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How does that work?

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:17 PM

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You literally don't have to log in to the website to download it

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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yes but a intelligent one, like really taking the properties/option and compares them, no matter where they are located in both files I compare (like value comparison, not text comparision)

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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But if it's a .dmg it won't work in Windows

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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just go to https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/alternative. You'll have to sign in to the launcher after you get it, but you can sign in on multiple computers with the same account

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Ah

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OK

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:18 PM

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so they need to parse the file first

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Yes, it does that automatically for .properties files, but I'm searching smth like that at least for yaml since some plugin libs resorting the config each update randomly

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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i dont know if anything exists for that, maybe some website tho

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Are you asking for https://yamldiff.com/?

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Did'nt find it so far, if I really will've no luck I might code one next year

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:21 PM

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yeah, that'll work i believe however they were actually asking for an intelligent diff that could handle more than just yaml

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I mean it can to JSON and YAML but is it web only

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A okay that keyword yamldiff helps me on google thanks

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Could have thought about that earlier

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 7:24 PM

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pastel reef

Lmao

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https://c.tenor.com/P2QzKKCTHpgAAAAM/indiana-jones-belongs-in-a-museum.gif

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:26 PM

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I guess if I want this I'll have to make it, but I'll ask anyway: is there some program to just kick everyone as soon as they join your server with a maintenance message? I'm asking for something completely standalone, not like https://github.com/kennytv/Maintenance

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:27 PM

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what is different between that and what youre asking for

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:28 PM

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as a standalone program it could run on a VPS with zero ram and would also be free from any, just a random example, vulnerabilities in logging frameworks used by the server

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that way, when something like this happens, you could just shut down the server and turn it on until you can patch it

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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by standalone program you mean, not running in the server? how is it going to perform the kick then thonk

wraith meteor Dec 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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brave radish I guess if I want this I'll have to make it, but I'll ask anyway: is there some ...

whitelist + custom message

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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wow https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59768366

BBC News

Omicron: Half of colds will be Covid, warn UK researchers

If you have a sore throat, runny nose and a headache, get a Covid test, experts advise.

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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potent fossil by standalone program you mean, not running in the server? how is it going to pe...

yeah that may not have been clear: the program would be a tiny server implementation, it just wouldn't have to do much bc no one would even have to move

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like that project that just shows an MOTD but taken further

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Just add a minimum installation of a proxy what you turn on as replacement (turn off other proxy or server first) standalone and run a "auto kick with reason" plugin on it. Minimal work way and standalone 😄

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:30 PM

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oh yea i dont know of one but i think you can just use that project mc server thingy that implements almost nothing on purpose and just edit it

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i forgot the name

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KEK

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:30 PM

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Minestom?

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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yes that

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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well if I were to make it myself I would probably just use MCProtocolLib

waxen panther Dec 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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god damn paper general is having a semi productive conversation

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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i mean whatever works

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:31 PM

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I tried to derail it

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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minestom will let you start the server and just add a connection listener that terminates the incoming conn

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would be like 4 lines

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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What's best Linux for Minecraft?

wraith meteor Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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pastel reef What's best Linux for Minecraft?

wdym

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Linux

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Not for server, but for client

waxen panther Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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lol

wraith meteor Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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pastel reef Not for server, but for client

any works probably

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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magic river wow https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59768366

no politics

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Is Fedora 35 the latest version?

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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went to unping and it hit send instead

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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LUL that's not politics

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:32 PM

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when you say linux you are talking about the kernel, and linux is linux. it doesn't really matter what distro you use

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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magic river <:LUL:358456832844496897> that's not politics

that's not what sir jroy would say

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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just pick one and use it

void void Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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brave radish I guess if I want this I'll have to make it, but I'll ask anyway: is there some ...

ServerListPlus standalone

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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left swift that's not what sir jroy would say

it is not politics

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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btw all replies ping me anyway because IRC

void void Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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void void ServerListPlus standalone

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/serverlistplusserver.20301/

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:33 PM

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cunning raft it is not politics

peepoRiot

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:34 PM

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well, if you're going to ask, Ubuntu or PopOS may have better graphics drivers available than other ones

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:34 PM

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PopOS uninstalls your computer if you install Steam 😄

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:34 PM

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i mean yes if you are asking that question then you should be using something made for people new to linux

tired heath Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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"PopOS uninstalls your computer if you install Steam", so they handle it the only right way

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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void void <https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/serverlistplusserver.20301/>

not exactly what I wanted but probably better anyways 😄

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Tutorials for new people usually assume you're using Ubuntu

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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if you need tutorials then yes, use ubuntu PepeLa

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Although a lot of the slightly more in depth stuff assumes Arch these days

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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why the fuck wont davinci resolve load my goddamn media files

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ree

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:35 PM

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But at that point you can usually translate and 99% of it works on everything

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:37 PM

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davinci

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 7:38 PM

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amazing it doesnt open mp4 files unless you pay

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kekwhyper

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not with h.264/5 anyway

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:39 PM

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stop harassing me jroy

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I'll call ur boss

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@waxen panther ur employee is violating company work policy

waxen panther Dec 28, 2021, 7:46 PM

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left swift <@264203519806930944> ur employee is violating company work policy

@cunning raft good work, I think a promotion is in order

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willing to give you 2 quote retweets a day instead of one

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 7:47 PM

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pokiyap

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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So on Thursday part of my desk at least will be here

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....the top and the legs

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 7:54 PM

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@waxen panther koriLaugh

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 7:55 PM

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It only has two legs, without the feet it can't stand

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If I really only get those two pieces I'm not even going to take them out of the packaging on Thursday, no point

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They'll just take up more room sitting around waiting for the rest

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Interesting, it they don't ship the entire thing at once?

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Or is it separated

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 8:01 PM

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ew jrotc has a batchest emote

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:08 PM

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The Hangar Discord logo has seemingly been burned into my screen...

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849320629537996820/925476133376507924/IMG_4262.jpg

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still there after a shutdown

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not sure how that happens in about 10 minutes of it being onscreen

warm anchor Dec 28, 2021, 8:09 PM

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@ mini

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:09 PM

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thonk

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what kinda screen is that?

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:09 PM

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oh and there's Via at the bottom of the picture

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:10 PM

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worn ember what kinda screen is that?

I don't know display stuff

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https://support.apple.com/kb/SP731?locale=en_US

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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kek

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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burn-in shouldn't happen on an imac screen

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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usually screen burnins are permanent

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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clearly

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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but only on oled or amoled

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:12 PM

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plucky sparrow usually screen burnins are permanent

that's why I said "seemingly" but also not sure what else to call it

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:12 PM

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must be the wind

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:12 PM

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meant to reply to Michael

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:13 PM

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maybe the led's are still hot or something kek

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:15 PM

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here's a picture with the brightness turned up a bit; you can see the Paper Discord banner if you look closely

📎 IMG_4263.HEIC

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jpeg kinda made it invisible

cloud moat Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Whats the Role No Table for

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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notable people

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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people who have lost their tables

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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but with a space just because

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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some in a wild fire

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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or that

cunning raft Dec 28, 2021, 8:18 PM

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others victim of a burglary

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some victims of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcZd305VI60

void void Dec 28, 2021, 8:19 PM

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poor michael has to work without a table 😔

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 8:20 PM

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also according to https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202580 I should just wait and it will go away

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I guess I gtg leave one of those infinite fireplace videos on so bye

daring gulch Dec 28, 2021, 8:24 PM

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pastel reef Believe me, it's never ever faster.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-P8600-vs-Intel-Celeron-G5900/m753vsm1187562
inb4 >userbenchmark

UserBenchmark: Intel Celeron G5900 vs Core2 Duo P8600

Based on 7,492 user benchmarks for the Intel Celeron G5900 and the Core2 Duo P8600, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,323 CPUs.

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:38 PM

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can we get a /docs or /jdocs command that points to https://papermc.io/javadocs?

mossy vessel Dec 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Added

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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tnx

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 8:57 PM

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vernal moth https://twitter.com/YNizry/status/1475764153373573120?t=I3Isyw50lfpXqYsTjzWolQ&s...

https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-44832 lol it's real

CVE - CVE-2021-44832

CVE® is a list of records — each containing an identification number, a description, and at least one public reference — for publicly known cybersecurity vulnerabilities. The mission of the CVE Program is to identify, define, and catalog publicly disclosed cybersecurity vulnerabilities.

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vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Fuck am too drunk for this shit

foggy silo Dec 28, 2021, 8:57 PM

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this library is being absolutely bombarded!!!

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Oh for fuck sake

fallen oracle Dec 28, 2021, 8:58 PM

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It's similar to logback, they have to have access to the configuration.

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Can people just shut up about these attacks that require access to the log config

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They are so fucking stupid

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These assholes just want fame

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If you give attacker access, attacker has access

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In other breaking news, Florida man who jumped into his poor found out water is wet

fallen oracle Dec 28, 2021, 9:00 PM

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In my book that's a 10.0 severity.

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:02 PM

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Apache gives it a 6.6

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Idk why or how

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Am just too drunk for this shit

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And tired

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Really really tired

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Don't these people have something else to do on the holidays?

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:02 PM

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It is somewhat common to have different permissions for config vs code

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Did you know that installing Bukkit plugins allows for arbitrary code execution?

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Like, only I can write the code but someone who might have sloppy security practices can edit the config so I'm not doing tech support

true canyon Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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If you have your access highly segmented, it's a privilege escalation to worry about. For MC it's pretty much not a concern.

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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I think we need to issue a CVE

little frost Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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yes, plugins were a mistake

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:03 PM

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If somebody has access to the file system, the logging config should be the least of your worries

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They don't need remote code execution, they can edit the actual code

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This is all made up bullshit

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Except no, I just explained they can't?

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Not sure if this even warrants a CVE and definitely not a 6 CVSS but it is an issue they should fix

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:05 PM

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They should also definitely keep their mouths shut while everybody is on vacation

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What happened to 90 day periods after disclosure

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:06 PM

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That's not how that works

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90 days is the suggestion for responsible disclosure when the vendor ignores you

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If the vendor fixes it right away and issues a CVE that goes away

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Then apache should ignore this

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:08 PM

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Eh, once the first issue was found everyone was digging in here, if they waited until the new year others would have definitely found this

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Maybe one of them would have figured out how to actually exploit it somewhere

brave radish Dec 28, 2021, 9:14 PM

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brave radish I guess I gtg leave one of those infinite fireplace videos on so bye

luckily it's gone

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 9:17 PM

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hangar branded imacs

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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https://youtu.be/NIH6j7-w198

YouTube

kennytv

log4j in a nutshell

I sure hope this doesn't age well

▶ Play video

topaz mortar Dec 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Yet Another Log4J Exploit - YAL4JE

vernal moth Dec 28, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Lenny with the gods work

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 9:29 PM

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What to do with tar.gz files on fedora?

true canyon Dec 28, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Well that depends. What are you intending to do with them? Store them, transfer them, open them?

pastel reef Dec 28, 2021, 9:30 PM

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Convert them into usable apps.

magic river Dec 28, 2021, 9:33 PM

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They could be a binary you just unpack somewhere and run but usually software that comes that way is source code you have to compile first

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So it depends

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Is it by chance openjdk-17_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz?

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https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/downloads/ has RPMs available that should work on recent versions of Fedora

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ashen cliff Dec 28, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Windows problems daily:
https://posili.me/i/2021-12-28_22-42-51.png
https://posili.me/i/2021-12-28_22-43-45.png

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 9:44 PM

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ashen cliff Windows problems daily: https://posili.me/i/2021-12-28_22-42-51.png https://posi...

wtf is that date format

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this is the only acceptable format

ashen cliff Dec 28, 2021, 9:45 PM

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The only true date format.

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Čeh moment.

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 9:45 PM

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brug

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 9:48 PM

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why

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 9:49 PM

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I always assert my dominance by having my date format set to YYYY-MM-DD /s

little frost Dec 28, 2021, 9:49 PM

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ISO8601 or bust

ashen cliff Dec 28, 2021, 9:49 PM

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YYYY-DD-MM

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Have fun.

wide chasm Dec 28, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Balkan moment

spare venture Dec 28, 2021, 9:50 PM

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sorry i only handle time in unix time

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cant read it any other way

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why do different countries have different date formats tho, kinda dum

unkempt drift Dec 28, 2021, 9:51 PM

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why do different countries have different languages tho, kinda dum

little frost Dec 28, 2021, 9:51 PM

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i blame the tower of babel

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 10:01 PM

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yeah true

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it made sense 2000 years ago

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but now

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 10:02 PM

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I only speak american

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 10:02 PM

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whats that?

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 10:02 PM

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what yerr speaking right now son

worn ember Dec 28, 2021, 10:03 PM

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sorry i only speak English

twin lagoon Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 PM

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@potent fossil hows your ssd

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 PM

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cryIgnore

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still waiting

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 PM

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noob

potent fossil Dec 28, 2021, 10:10 PM

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.kill dap

limber knotBOT Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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unleashes the armies of Isengard on dap.

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I really was expecting that

void void Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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.kill log4j

plucky sparrow Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Predictable

limber knotBOT Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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gets some friends together and shivs log4j a few times.

left swift Dec 28, 2021, 10:11 PM

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log4deez nuts