maybe some small improvements here and there but any large research project would be dumb unless there is still gonna be industries where ICEs are permitted
#general
vernal moth
Charging isnt much of an issue if you don't go crazy on the power
Like, no need to have fast chargers everywhere, if the car sits in the garage the whole night
untold copper
martin come to politics once pls .-.
vernal moth
Trucks are like, together with boats, the only real usecase for fuel cells
Hydrogen, that was the english word I was looking for
golden gust
hydrogen is getting there, it's just doing it efficiently and at scale
vernal moth
Ppl here wanna use hydrogen for cars
Which is just really dum and inefficient
Iirc sweden was it that completely stopped doing that cause they had gas stations blowing up
magic river
crystal compass
bruh anybody know of some companies hiring remote for software devs?
broken rampart
try remoteok.io or the hacker news thread that's coming in 5 days
magic river
Apply anyway
crystal compass
"do you have 10+ years of experience and 15 languages under your belt? then this job is for you"
me a 21 year old who practices java and html/css
broken rampart
Apply anyway
^
crystal compass
is that fr how it works
you apply for shit that seems like you would never be accepted for
broken rampart
if you stand out from the rest yep, at the end of the day it's a person deciding if you're qualified
untold meadow
worst case you don't get it which is guaranteed if you never apply
crystal compass
yeah I guess it seems really daunting
because i've never really handled like company applications n shit
like sure I can make shitty java games and minecraft plugins and algorithms but i don't really understand what it would be like to just join a team and be like do this
lmao
minor badge
yes that is how software dev works
find jobs that look interesting, apply regardless of requirements
take a look at https://weworkremotely.com/ too
a lot of companies have legal and timezone restrictions on your location, but there's a tooonne of jobs there, so it's fine
crystal compass
are these companies really willing to teach people how to do shit? haha
like "sure we can teach you how to use react for our purposes"
minor badge
mm not really, you learn as you go once you've got a pretty good understanding
i mean, if you're able to do the other shit, sure
crystal compass
interesting
i just imagine showing up and then they're like "ok do this" and im like "wtf is that"
google time 👀
minor badge
it's not about knowing how to do shit, it's about showing you're able to think up a way that would be at least decent from what info you have, then to improve on it once you are given hints or given google ^^ show you could do it, and they may give you a chance to actually do it
crystal compass
interesting, thanks! so I should really just apply for all of these jobs even when they are asking for all of that experience ?
magic river
When we hire for react we fail you in the interview if it seems like you don't actually know react
Like, you don't need to know the details of component lifecycle but you need to be able to make a component without spending the day on google
If you know Vue or something instead you might be considered since you're at least familiar with the concepts
minor badge
well duh, but if it's a mostly backend job with the some frontend work here once or twice a week (heyhey, that's what I have to do), it's fine to only really know backend
crystal compass
well I guess the worst they can say is no lmao
ill just spill out the experience I do have with a nice resume and send it
minor badge
you can get interview experience either way :p either they want you and it's a win-win, or it's their financial loss on the time they've wasted on your still win :D
magic river
If you know enough about something to bullshit your way through it put that on there too 😛
Like I did C# for a few months a decade ago but I still put it on there
crystal compass
bahaha
magic river
Oh god, no, that was more like 15 years ago now
crystal compass
i've been doing html/css for like 3 weeks
minor badge
damn, getting old, amaranth?
magic river
C# 2.0 was really exciting
crystal compass
i kind of just say 1 year with self-taught java expereince but its actually 2
I worry that my knowledge vs time doesn't line up well enough because not all of that time was spent coding haha
magic river
I've worked with Java devs who had been doing it for years but still wrote code like it was My First Bukkit Plugin ™️
crystal compass
wtf lmao
magic river
They learned how to sling code but never got interested enough to actually try to improve themselves
No architecture or design improvements, just slinging code
That's 90%+ of all developers
They cargo cult their way through life
They learn things to do, not why you do them
crystal compass
oh well thats definitely not me
i bother the shit out of people here
with why/how to do new shit lmao
minor badge
@olive marlin 
olive marlin
If you write code, then look at it after some time and think "how shit is this", that means you are learning, which is good. It'll always be like that, just first you can do that after a few days, if you are experienced it'll take you months.
minor badge
quasi valley
crystal compass
wtf lol
waxen panther
vernal moth
cedar spade
vernal moth
Kekw
olive marlin
Oh, is that the new tracking without tracking thing?
severe pond
e
nova plume
vernal moth
It's not a blog post
It's the change log
All changes only get two lines or so
Normally they follow it up with a blog post, but seems they don't want publicity about this
pulsar wigeon
oic, page header said blog, didn't notice the url
vernal moth
No need to get msft vs Google headlines I guess
The changelog is a blog on GitHubs blog, but it's only really small notes about a change, never reasoning
For that they write proper posts
I follow the RSS feed for that, pretty useful
I really should get that migrated away from ifttt I guess, urg
brave radish
Can someone explain what that header means? :D
vernal moth
It disables floc for all github pages on the github.io domain
Floc being a new experiemntal post cookie tracking system
That actually isn't as bad as ppl make it look and way nicer than the current shit we have rn for tracking
Because it gives you all authority
And provides a standardized interface
brave radish
so Google got mad that they can't use third party tracking cookies and went with that instead?
vernal moth
No, google wants to kill third party tracking and replace it with smth better
brave radish
well it seemed suspicious to me that they made that announcement right after FF turned the new tracking protection on by default
vernal moth
Chrome blocks that too btw
And safari was first I think
Firefoxes announcement is irrelevant
Nobody cares about them anymore
brave radish
Chrome doesn't have some whitelist of "trusted sites" or something that says *.google.com?
crystal compass
its so weird to be applying for coding jobs that im not qualified for lmao
cunning raft
cohorts are objectively better from what I can understand
native wolf
That actually isn't as bad as ppl make it look and way nicer than the current sh...
I agree
cunning raft
i think the general problem is google being the sole arbiter
native wolf
People just hate Google too much
cunning raft
which i mean I'd trust them more than facebook
brave radish
I love the people who are like "My phone isn't always listening; it only listens when I say 'hey Google!'"
cunning raft
i mean that's kinda true
google doesn't constantly record
it only starts recording after it hears the hotword
nova plume
I love the people who are like "My phone isn't always listening; it only listens...
Thats true for everything to some extent
brave radish
record != listening
nova plume
yeah
brave radish
hotword detection is done on-device
yes, but the people I hear say this wouldn't know what that means
so they're just blindly trusting Google on the grounds that it only listens when they tell it to
which... is dumb
cunning raft
its not
magic river
They've actually moved even more things to on-device as AI accelerators have improved
nova plume
what point are you trying to prove
listen, i need sleep ive barely had any for like 3 days (probs more tbh i cant remember) and rn im high on coffee cos i need to submit an english essay smh
cunning raft
not u silly
nova plume
oh lol
brave radish
yeah my objection to Siri has always been that it sends wayyy more data wayy more often then it should need to
olive marlin
its so weird to be applying for coding jobs that im not qualified for lmao
Yeah. But you'll notice at some point companies want to get someone who is capable of working with what they listen, doesn't need to actually have experience in it. They just want to see you can think straight and have some prior experience.
cunning raft
afaik they now do the same setup as google?
brave radish
Ok well lemme restate that
cunning raft
hotword detection on device, everything else sent
magic river
It uses too much power and data to record everything
cunning raft
in fact they may not even record by default?
magic river
They've always done hotword detection on device, they just used to be shit at it
vernal moth
As long as you don't have an alexa you are fine last I checked
magic river
It was a dedicated chip that was terrible at its job
vernal moth
Cause they literally had ppl listening to everything 🤣
brave radish
Not that Siri sends too much data, but that Siri can send too much data; they're not very transparent about when she does
magic river
I think Apple still uses a dedicated chip since it's lower power than turning the main AI accelerator on, not sure though
cunning raft
well i mean even alexa does hotword detection on device
but amazon loves to just give warentless access to feds
brave radish
hotword detection on device, everything else sent
yea I'm not talking about voice data
I mean like contacts etc
magic river
iirc Google sends your contact names so it can use that data when doing voice recognition
Apple is probably similar
brave radish
Maybe, but that privacy policy doesn't say that
kinda my point
I have no way of knowing when she does; it just says "we can send this data"
crystal compass
Yeah. But you'll notice at some point companies want to get someone who is capab...
makes sense. I just couldn't imagine a company paying for someone to learn how to work for them lmao
magic river
They don't want to pay you to learn but if you're somewhat productive while doing so it's acceptable
olive marlin
makes sense. I just couldn't imagine a company paying for someone to *learn* how...
It greatly depends on the company. I have an example in form of my cousin - no programming experience, but was quite good at thinking. In the interview they gave him a few "riddles" and such, to see how he thinks. No programming questions. Ended up being hired and paid to learn.
I know my company is happy to hire people with some C++ knowledge and teach them Go.
crystal compass
interesting
im like applying to every ad I can find 😂
yall hiring react developer with 5 years experience? well hey i know some java let me apply
olive marlin
When I was applying, I got proposed first a data-scientist job (probably since I knew python a bit), then they decided they'd want me either as Go developer or DevOps Engineer. I chose the later cause I had near 0 experience, wasn't even interviewed for it.
crystal compass
What does a devops engineer do?
nova plume
azure devops?
native wolf
What does a devops engineer do?
Basically they take care of the dev env, CI and those things
olive marlin
Mostly manage infrastructure and automation. Let's say your project is 5 closed source apps that work together in some specific setup with open source apps and databases etc.
We make sure when you push your code and open PR that tests are ran on it, prepare almost one-click way to deploy and configure all the applications etc.
crystal compass
cool cool
worn ember
Mostly manage infrastructure and automation. Let's say your project is 5 closed ...
ur that guy that spends 6 hours to automate a 5 minute task essentially
olive marlin
😇
olive marlin
Usually I'm the guy who spends hours to find that Google decided to lowercase headers going through their network and our awesome apps don't handle it.
Or when some idiot client manually removes one system entry from production database and you debug why upgrade is failing.
wraith trail
the headers served for google.com and https://google.com have different capitalisation for some reason
exact same header, just only with https do you get all lowercase
olive marlin
Wouldn't be surprised if they handled https through their own load balancers then: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/56852315/gcp-https-load-balancers-will-convert-http-1-1-header-names-to-lowercase-coul
Why wouldn't they do it for http?
void void
olive marlin
Idk. Compliance with older standard?
wraith trail
maybe
olive marlin
I don't have them memorized so idk if they were case sensitive before.
magic river
Probably because they don't give a shit about http 😛
wraith trail
same for youtube as well and a number of other google services
magic river
I wouldn't be surprised if their http stack is a hard coded thing that just redirects to https and doesn't actually understand HTTP
olive marlin
But you'd imagine all their trafic going through their load balancers.
Yeah, if it only redirects then could be it.
wraith trail
yeah might just do that there
although they even support http connections
although might only for user agents of old browsers
magic river
Oh yeah I guess they have to support it for the pages where you download Chrome
waxen panther
Gaming
woven otter
@waxen panther
waxen panther
?
woven otter
i really wanted to ping you
waxen panther
ok
woven otter
wdym ok
stiff jewel
anyone wanna make custom mobs using armor stands and heads? (needs java) dm me
quasi valley
mossy vessel
Sorry, we only do Kotlin here.
quasi valley
mossy vessel
Unless you are named kenni, then you are are playing with groovy and skript
quasi valley
worn ember
olive marlin
Happy birthday 🎂
worn ember
11 years old now 👏
turbid oar
@untold copper Happy Birthday 🥳
nova plume
@untold copper happy birthday!
brave radish
did Mojang officially say whether 1.17 has been split into 17 and 18 or 17 and 17.1? (pretending there will magically be no bug fixes, just any minor)
olive marlin
They didn't explicitly, but I understood it as 2 separate releases.
vernal moth
It's 17 and 18
brave radish
I would hope, cuz doubling the world size in a minor would be icky lol
waxen panther
Thank god
vernal moth
The doubling of world high is possible code wide in 1.17 already
brave radish
But it's just numbers who cares
me, so I know whether to say "wait for 1.17" or "wait for 1.18"
vernal moth
1.17 will bring most of the code for the world gen changes
Just not activated in vanilla worlds
But usable in custom worlds and via datapacks
brave radish
https://twitter.com/kingbdogz/status/1386341135824609280 for anyone who wants it; probably not the tweet mini was talking about but good enough
Twitter
turbid oar
interesting
brave radish
took a Minecraft quiz the other day cuz someone told me I couldn't
Q: What language is Minecraft coded in?
A: JavaScript
unkempt drift
Mojang transpiles it into java
unkempt drift
Auto correct
brave radish
mmmhm
golden gust
Yeaaa, suuuureee, I believe you
unkempt drift
Doesn’t think “transpiles” is a word
golden gust
mhm, yea
golden gust
Can we just... like... shit on machine, please... y'know...
brave radish
⚡Optimized Server Fork! ChickenSpigot! ⚡100 tps⚡ Last fork you'll ever need! ⚡
vernal bone
brave radish
is actually hardfork from Tuinity continued in graaljs
unkempt drift
Gotta be a server fork on Mcmarket advertising >20tps right?
brave radish
(the name had nothing to do with my username btw, I thought "TacoSpigot is already taken" so that was the next food I thought of)
unkempt drift
Or some “No TPS Limit” phrasing
vernal bone
Optimized /tps command!!
brave radish
Bukkit.broadcastMessage("500/500/500")
vernal bone
I like how they replace the numbers with some colored "graph", which nobody really understands, all you can assume is red=bad, which is dumb.
weary rivet
hello, where would i go to set up TPA and such
left swift
Ya what cat said and such
golden gust
EssentialsX is a catchall "does a lot of junk" plugin, beyond that, use google
left swift
Cat said essX is junk
unkempt drift
is the word critereon a valid spelling in english somewhere?
cause mojang has a package named that, and I thought it was spelled criterion
quasi valley
probably a misspell lol
left swift
Neon
golden gust
swenglish, wooo
quasi valley
what's your language called then, cat
golden gust
ayyy
waxen panther
left swift
Init
waxen panther
Nah innit is south / London
golden gust
left swift
Is England north/south same as usa north/south
golden gust
I used to live in preston, which is sorta on what's referred to as the "industrial highway", as there's preston, blackpool, blackburn and the motor way there is basically like a centerbed for many of the industrial companies
Ah, yea, the M6 motorway, it's basically, from wikipedia, "It incorporated the Preston By-pass, the first length of motorway opened in the UK and forms part of a motorway "Backbone of Britain", running north−south between London and Glasgow via the industrial North of England"
Preston, GO BIG
preston bypass
Early work was hampered by heavy rainfall
fucking surprise there 'eh
left swift
golden gust
bro
In preston, you can literally look outside at like 8am
Go to school, be all sunny all the way there and shit
first break at 11? Well, fuck. not a single dot of blue in the sky
golden gust
NOT WHEN IT WAS SUNNY AS SHIT AND YOU WENT WITHOUT A COAT
crystal compass
Rip "there is little similarity between java and javascript so we are unable to hire you due to not being well versed in javascript"
Oop
crystal compass
Naw i saw that they wanted it on there but i applied anyway /shrug
left swift
Never hurts to try
limpid comet
ive got a dumbass question
ci/cd includes the process of actually running the newly built application, yea?
golden gust
No, basically
CI is basically "push often, test often"
CD is basically where you're consistently deploying into a test bed
before you actually deploy to production, you never wanna have a direct > public deployment setup, unless you got red scary beta warnings all over the place
limpid comet
ok thanks for clearing that up
olive marlin
That's mostly true, but not always.
twin lagoon
bluely 
twin lagoon
epic
limpid comet
i cant pog due to lack of nitro but this sticker comes up when i type :pog: so
golden gust
okay, wait, quick read, apparently CD is more "being a button press from magical deployment"
olive marlin
Not always a button press, but yes.
olive marlin
Sometimes you have prod, stage, dev and ephemeral branches and if you merge to stage, it automatically deploys staging. Same with merge to prod.
So it's a merge away. But generally yuou have some user action that triggers everything.
limpid comet
i see
golden gust
presses button with pp
limpid comet
ive been looking at drone
olive marlin
I heard it's nice.
limpid comet
but i have also heard good things about concourse
olive marlin
I want to setup consourse when I get more time.
golden gust
It's really a case of finding one which you fall in love with
olive marlin
Since it also needs vault instance.
For secrets, doesn't have anything built in.
But it's great cause 100% described as a code.
waxen panther
drone epic
limpid comet
mr drone ceo enters chat
olive marlin
I want to write something simple so that I can store credentials in password store in git, and then sync them to memory-backed vault.
twin lagoon
limpid comet
i might try and dick around with drone. i wanna find a workflow that, say, builds a frontend for a website then immediately deploys that to wherever the site is running
golden gust
part of my goals is to get kubernetes up and working
I had it kiiiinda running but it was kinda being bork with single node with the management and the actual host stuff on the same thing
twin lagoon
part of my goals is to get kubernetes up and working
k3s
olive marlin
k3s worked fine for me, no matter the node count.
twin lagoon
yeah k3s single node is fine
olive marlin
Whether one or a few it worked nice.
golden gust
Yea, k3s too is something I wanted to look at but the documentation was sketching me out
does it work well with LE and stuff?
twin lagoon
if you use cert-manager yes
golden gust
I was tryna get it running with treafik on single node, and it worked, but, it was kinda... sensitive...
twin lagoon
k3s ships with traefik as ingress controller aswell
you just need to add cert-manager to your cluster and set up the let's encrypt issuer
actually eh i don't know how traefik does auto ssl in kubernetes it might be possible without cert-manager
olive marlin
I want to go back to using k8s. Pulling a second day of overtime with setting up stupid openstack is killing me.
twin lagoon
openstack 
olive marlin
TripleO setup, overcloud shits itself...
golden gust
traefik had its own stuff for LE which is what I was using iirc
I think that the issue I was having was basically getting treafik onto 80/443 without gross networking iirc
twin lagoon
the only thing i really have against kubernetes nowadays is that it's just tons of moving components
golden gust
it was kiiinda working but it was so janky
Yea, I mean, it seems like a really kick ass stack to have once it's up and running
It's just the whole "getting it up and running" and then keeping stuff maintained and such
twin lagoon
it is nice once it's up yes but i end up disabling half of k3s for example
just so i can install some of my own shit like a different network plugin
twin lagoon
no
waxen panther
:(
twin lagoon
brocc BEST brocc
waxen panther
the following things have come to my attention
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
twin lagoon
unkempt drift
Where is the Yatopia one that someone had that guy do?
Was it JRoy? Did you have that guy do a video on Yatopia?
lean kiln
2️⃣🇮 🇳 👁️🍵
waxen panther
@lean kiln
lean kiln
@waxen panther
waxen panther
what gradle command am i running
lean kiln
idk
waxen panther
i cant find the mention
lean kiln
oh for cloud
waxen panther
some funny guy @'d me 10000 times
lean kiln
./gradlew :example-sponge:runServer -Pcompile-examples
waxen panther
hello leaf
static badge
brocc
lean kiln
lol
limpid comet
gradle for python projects when
limber knotBOT
no
waxen panther
bluely guess what i got today
limpid comet
what
limpid comet
wtf
waxen panther
for below msrp
limpid comet
i call dibs on it
waxen panther
kekvvvv
limpid comet
brocly guess what i did today
limpid comet
get all my schooolwork done
i am not behind on anything
and i always see pinkly now she lives with me
limpid comet
when i have the kind of money to put a 3090 on her finger
waxen panther
😳
waxen panther
copious amounts of blue m&ms
limpid comet
i have custody over the robot
spiral robin
ooo
spiral robin
that one you sent vids to me of
spiral robin
i watched a 30 min video on why macdonald ice cream machines always broken yesterday 
limpid comet
my tech teacher just kinda dropped it off at my house and he hasn't asked for it back
spiral robin
u will be cute macdonal worker
limpid comet
that class ended 4 days ago
spiral robin
hahahaha nice
limpid comet
so
i also have 2 of his pi 4s
ok heres my plan
- install k3s
- install drone
and then figure out how to use drone for my website
twin lagoon
it's nice
limpid comet
ive heard
twin lagoon
@minor badge has experience with it
limpid comet
yea i remember seeing some of her projects with drone configs
here's a question
what happens if a k3s server node is in a datacenter but the worker node is in my living room
cringe latency?
olive marlin
Deploying openstack undercloud be like:
WAITING FOR COMPLETION: Wait for containers to start for step 3 using paunch (1200 retries left).
WAITING FOR COMPLETION: Wait for containers to start for step 3 using paunch (1199 retries left).
...
Ugh, almost 16 hours on the clock and I've had to revert almost everything and redoing it.
waxen panther
sysadmin moment
olive marlin
sysadmin moment
I just redeployed wrong environment, which was working. That's a true sysadmin moment 
short yarrow
Does race condition only refer to concurrency? For some reason I thought databases would have race conditions, but they don't right? Like if you perform a read and write to a DB together in separate threads, that should be handled in the code and an issue in your code not the database
golden gust
well, databases generally operate as a FIFO
at least in terms of transactions
"race condition" really just manes any case in which you expect a specific order to some operations and that ain't what happens
short yarrow
Thanks for the simple explanation. I some how ended up confusing myself....
olive marlin
Choose your poison.
golden gust
gradle is better but, documentation is 'eh
twin lagoon
gradle
golden gust
maven is more stable, but, kinda crappy
olive marlin
I prefer gradle cause I detest XML.
brave radish
maven is more stable, but, kinda crappy
kinda the impression I got lol
limpid comet
im at that point with gradle where it kinda makes sense but if i need something done quick i just use maven
brave radish
There's a very remote, minuscule, tiny, next-to-zero chance that I might actually publish this, so I figured I should stop using IJ's GUI lol
is there a name for that, btw?
For just making IJ do it?
golden gust
IJ won't deploy to a maven repo itself
But, if you're just dumping a jar out, like, it works
brave radish
Might wanna use GH actions on this later though so went with Gradle
limpid comet
i can't even figure out how to setup drone or concourse
brave radish
idek what either of those are
waxen panther
gradle or ur gross
brave radish
🤦♂️
limpid comet
im mildly tempted to self host gitlab on this dedi
brave radish
I just created a new project inside the Paper patch directory
olive marlin
Concourse is a super simple, 2 docker containers. Almost no configuration.
Oh, 3 cause it has some db I think.
olive marlin
I just used docker-compose they provide as example.
short yarrow
Have you guys ever needed to use anything else besides a lock? Like a mutex or semaphore
olive marlin
Pretty sure yes, bluely.
short yarrow
Oh i've used concourse before!
short yarrow
I like the diagram it shows. It was the CI tool I used
foggy veldt
In general or in Java
I used semaphores for a producer consumer queue in c for a school project
short yarrow
In general. I've only used a semaphore in school too. I literally forgot everything about it
limpid comet
i feel like this was a smart resolution to a problem
concourse binds to localhost:8080 default so i can't access it from my laptop
but ssh tunnels exist
modest path
What the hell is android studio? https://developer.android.com/studio it looks like an IntelliJ IDE based on the icons used and the layout but it has no mention of IntelliJ anywhere and i'm pretty sure IDEA has it's own android sdk plugin?
limpid comet
yes its based on intellij
olive marlin
@limpid comet I had these scripts laying around, pretty sure they are mostly stolen from either documentation or GH: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/07325b68e4a24ea1b9b92b7dbfec8391
foggy veldt
All jetbrains ides look the same and could be replaced by an intellij plugin
Well except for clion
limpid comet
abstraq thats what they are
modest path
lmfao
limpid comet
its all just plugins
ok now i need to figure out how to wire up traefik and concourse
doesn't k3s come with its own traefik thing
olive marlin
Wait a second 😉
twin lagoon
k3s provides the ingress controller by default
twin lagoon
yes fuck your ewntire traefik & docker installation
limpid comet
fuck u
twin lagoon
if you use concourse's helm chart, just look into the default values.yaml
limpid comet
hmm
twin lagoon
there's likely an ingress section somewhere, turn it on & configure it
redeploy/upgrade concourse
limpid comet
if we're saying fuck the docker should i just reinstall ubuntu server
nuclear option
twin lagoon
yes you should install debian 10 like an epic person
limpid comet
let me consult
limpid comet
what the FUCK does any of this mean
twin lagoon
they're default helm values of the chart
you override them by providing your own values.yaml with the settings you change
twin lagoon
yes\
but you only have to provide a values.yaml file with non-default settings
you don't have to provide a full copy of values.yaml that's 3000 lines long
limpid comet
yea that makes sense
i've never seen values.yml with helm stuff before so i'd assume its optpional
twin lagoon
it is optional yes because then you install something with the default values.yaml settings
you only provide a non-default values.yaml if you need to change something in the chart
limpid comet
yes
brave radish
can someone tell me... with a new gradle project in Intellij... where the code goes?
zinc moss
sheep higher than a mother fucker right now
brave radish
😄
brave radish
The folders I have are .gradle, .idea, and gradle
olive marlin
What you mean where "code" goes?
zinc moss
src
olive marlin
Usually src/
twin lagoon
you add .gradle & .idea to your .gitignore
brave radish
*do I make src?
short yarrow
Do you guys think prices will drop for graphic cards? I think the prices will still be really high even when production is at full speed
brave radish
drop? no
cuz without Gradle Intellij creates src for you so like...
did I mess something up or is it not supposed to with gradle?
waxen panther
Do you guys think prices will drop for graphic cards? I think the prices will st...
not for a awhile
you need to make the folder yourself
brave radish
oh ok
zinc moss
sheep on the moon bloodstone
olive marlin
@brave radish A very simple project of mine that uses gradle, for reference: https://github.com/Prof-Bloodstone/TilePersistence
brave radish
ty :)
olive marlin
It is in groovy syntax, though nowadays most people use kotlin syntax.
brave radish
Gradle and Maven have confused me so much every time I've gone to use them
short yarrow
I'm currently using a macbook and I want a M1 16 inch macbook (not sure if it's even coming out this year) and I definitely won't be able to do much on it until developers start porting software to it so been thinking about building a PC and using linux
brave radish
Rosetta 2 isn't that bad
olive marlin
And it has 1 bug - in the ProcessResourceSection, it'll include plugin.yml twice in the output jar, I just never bothered to fix it 🙂
brave radish
Rosetta 2 isn't that bad
runs Minecraft >60 fps
better than a 2020 MBP 13 inch with 32 GB of RAM
(on an M1 Mac mini)
short yarrow
I like macOS a lot. Hopefully linux desktop experience is too different
short yarrow
haha yeah isnt
brave radish
Closest dekstops I've found are KDE and Cinnamon
(Kubuntu and Mint Cinnamon, respectively)
golden gust
There was elementary which basically tried to take a good chunk of the UI aspects iirc
brave radish
I still can't build a hello world with gradle 😢
twin lagoon
@warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor 
waxen panther
michael go to bed
left swift
Ping spam at mods
olive marlin
@brave radish maybe get the MC dev plugin to generate everything for you, then add what you need?
warm anchor
Good afternoon Michael. I hope your Monday were great 
@twin lagoon
limpid comet
@warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor @warm anchor
olive marlin
Sleep is for the weak, am I right?
left swift
Wake me up inside
brave radish
YAY IT COMPILED
warm anchor
olive marlin
Congrats 🎊
brave radish
lol
wow it even runs
...if I tell it the main class, but good enough
what's wrong with this build.gradle for the Paper API?
`plugins {
id 'java'
}
group 'me.twoleggedcat'
version '1.0-SNAPSHOT'
repositories {
mavenCentral()
maven {
url 'https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-public/'
}
}
dependencies {
testImplementation 'org.junit.jupiter:junit-jupiter-api:5.7.0'
testRuntimeOnly 'org.junit.jupiter:junit-jupiter-engine:5.7.0'
compileOnly 'com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
}
test {
useJUnitPlatform()
}`
waxen panther
what's the problem
olive marlin
Looks fine.
lean kiln
lmao
brave radish
ohh I see
vestal jasper
@cunning raft
vestal jasper
imagine being green
brave radish
how do I make Intellij push to main instead of master?
Made a new repo, sent my project from Intellij, and it made a new master branch on GH and put it there
worn ember
Git master race
brave radish
I somehow just deleted everything
worn ember
Good job
brave radish
Time to go get it out my zip file
worn ember
Git is a bitch to get started but you'll love it once you figure it out
brave radish
Josh
I have no clue
what that means 😆
now I can't even get Intellij to recognize the remote branch
worked the first time...
vestal jasper
Yeah you're best off ignoring intellij when it comes to git stuff until you're familiar with git
and just doing things in the cli
instead of mixing and matching
intellij handles you switching branches pretty well
brave radish
So I added the url of the .git file in "Manage remotes"
which worked as expected before; I gave it an access token and it pushed to GH
then I realized it made it in a master branch instead of the default main
So I did something in Intellij that resulted in loosing all of my files
So I restarted from a zip of the project I had
And went in "Manage remotes" again and tried to add it
and it appears to have done nothing
vestal jasper
is the default branch name really that important
brave radish
no that's not the problem
the problem is that the default branch on GH is "main" but Intellij was pushing to "master"
I could just make "master" the default but that's a messy solution
also now I can't push anything
vestal jasper
sec
git branch -m main
git push origin main
git push origin :master```
@brave radishWith master checked out
Renames master to main and pushes the change to gh
brave radish
k lemme finish blowing this up first and then I'll do that :)
merry talon
I just noticed that my first sip of coffee instantly gave me energy
am I officially addicted?
brave radish
ok so I have on GH the license and README and stuff that isn't in my local git repo
and all my code in my local repo
how do I make it either A. pull the license and stuff down or B. Just push anyway being as there are no conflicting files?
ok welp
I got it
I also somehow wound up with the commit "Merge branch main of [this repo]" in main but oh well lol
I also now have two commits named "Initial commit"
(one of which has a lowercase "i")
untold copper
Happy birthday 🎂
ty :3
untold copper
11 years old now 👏
15 reeee die
untold copper
magic river
Neat, if this trend holds EC2 will be majority ARM pretty quickly
Well, I guess it'd be plurality ARM pretty quickly, outright majority is longer
untold copper
jroy got da powa
turbid oar
Stupid multicraft is having an issue in console with the dumb .conf I even put the text in the .conf correctly and it says in console no .jar in this to this folder...
I even saw many other people having this same issue in the past years on the internet
vestal jasper
ptero better change my mind
turbid oar
But there is no tutorials on how to do this or that in stupid multicraft only a complex mad doc explaining a little bit of info
its the worlds dumbness thing
and I even read it over and over again 🤔
So if anyone knows how please tell me lmao
still cape
hi guys, i have kind of a random thing i want to get some opinions on, please share especially if you know if this sort of thing means anything in particular but... this dude's computer repair website - it's all about his computer repair shop, except this earnings disclaimer page under "about us." it doesn't seem to fit with anything else on the site, so i am wondering, does anybody here know what is up with that page? why it might be there and worded so strange? it seems suspicious to me but i did some searches on the intraweb and couldn't find any clues. thanks for any insights http://www.thecomputerrepairking.com/earnings-disclaimer.html
warm anchor
Are you trying to fix your PC or what 
Look like a copy pasta from somewhere. Personally wouldnt be bother by any business that cant even get themselves a free ssl certificate
unkempt drift
That does feel like a copy pasta
still cape
no, it's not for me looking to buy anything from him. i have another reason to want to investigate him and i got some tips that he might be shady. that's the first clue i came across tho, and i don't know if it really is one or what it might imply.
modest path
That site is sketch as fuck
still cape
exactly
and yes it is a copy and paste, that same thing is plastered all over the internet, but what i can't figure out is the purpose behind it and what it might imply more specifically
modest path
This is their only bbb rating
warm anchor
They apparently want to make sure you have remote app installed on your PC that are being serviced and you need ot keep the remote app installed for any "future warranty"
hahahahahahaha
still cape
other sites that use it actually try to promise clients they will make money off their services/products, however this guy, everything else on his site is about him selling HIS services... then all of the sudden that disclaimer refers to earnings of clients, and it doesn't make even more sense.
well i want to find out what this guy is up to so if anyone has any clues let me know and i'll pursue
warm anchor
judging by all the assets from the sites are seemly rip off from others and some even without transparent background, whoever is doing that business is just as much as a mess like their site
modest path
How tf is this guy gonna repair hardware remotely
warm anchor
How tf is this guy gonna repair hardware remotely
with enchantment table obv
modest path
They gonna make u pay to join their botnet
modest path
with enchantment table obv
Shit I forgot newbie mistake
still cape
what's funny is that on his about us page smack dab in the middle is an icon for being bbb a+ accredited business but there is only that awful review and if you click on the icon it takes you to it
modest path
Shit I’m banned from their site
untold copper
XD
still cape
hmm well at least here is consensus that he might be up to no good, as for how, i will have to keep looking into it
vestal jasper
charge your phone for the love of god
modest path
charge your phone for the love of god
No
modest path
which page is that on
The tos - read it it’s hilarious
He can’t actually enforce any of those claims
still cape
well obvs, i think the site is a front for something else
modest path
His tos is like saying “by viewing them words PrinterMan you hereby submit to my TOS and now have to pay me money” IN the tos
warm anchor
yall spending too much time on this 
still cape
it's sloppy, unclear, almost like it's targeting certain naive individuals who will let him do whatever he wants
untold copper
yall spending too much time on this <:notlikerie:806709922317336606>
awa
warm anchor
go to sleep snoopa wtf
unkempt drift
Paper NFTs for each patch when?
untold copper
its my birthday reeee
warm anchor
Paper NFTs for each patch when?
how much for Machine's first PR?
unkempt drift
$400 clearly
warm anchor
unkempt drift
Easily worth that
modest path
yall spending too much time on this <:notlikerie:806709922317336606>
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untold copper
@novel horizon how you produce lava for magmatic dynamo?
short yarrow
If you have an interface with multiple implementation and they all have different constructors. How would you make a factory? Usually the examples of Factory I've seen had implementations with no constructors
public class Factory {
public static Interface getImpl(Type type) {
if (type.equals(...)) {
return new ImplA(X); // where would I get an instance X?
} else if (type.equals(...)) {
return new ImplB(Y); //where would I get an instance of Y?
}
return null;
}
}
potent fossil
Ideally you wouldn't need X or Y. You'd design your API around that. Alternatively you can take in a map of options as a second param to your getImpl method, I suppose. Would need more info
wraith oracle
the factory pattern and dependency injection are inherently incompatible, you either choose one or the other
short yarrow
I see :(. Thanks
modest path
What are you trying to achieve?
I'm confused by why the above code is in a factory pattern in the first place
short yarrow
It feels like the implementation has to be simple for me to use factory. Well this is actually my first time using an interface and factory was immediately what I thought of and when I tried creating a Factory it definitely was not going to work
Now I'm a bit lost. I'm in new territory
modest path
Interfaces aren't hard - think of what the word interface means, right?
it offers a simple interaction point with differing implementations. Don't use it just for the sake of adding interfaces to your project, use it when needed (why do you need a factory here as opposed to simply providing the implementation classes?)
short yarrow
Yeah and that's why I'm using an interface. So I have a plugin and plan to support flat file and mysql. I need a different loader for both of those
modest path
what is x and y here
modest path
Ideally you wouldn't need X or Y. You'd design your API around that. Alternative...
this, essentially
short yarrow
X - would probably be a FileHandler or ConfigHandler where I get a list of File or maybe a list of YamlConfiguration
and Y would most likely be my DAO
modest path
Okay, so you're going to need to reconsider how this code here is designed most likely
I wouldn't use a factory pattern for this so much as just the interface
Let your code use the interface and manually provide the implementation
short yarrow
I see. I thought what I had was gonna be good, but doesn't seem like it'll be good
modest path
What's bad about it?
i don't know, check if some string in your config says "mysql" and if so provide an implementation A, if not, B. No need for the factory pattern.
short yarrow
Or not bad, but I'd need to do something different. This is my enable code. It seems I'll need the to move that factory logic I planned here which I don't think. is the best
@Override
public void onEnable() {
saveDefaultConfig();
File playerDataFolder = new File(getDataFolder(), "playerData");
if (!playerDataFolder.exists()) {
if (!playerDataFolder.mkdir()) {
getLogger().severe("Failed to create the playerDataFolder. Disabling the plugin...");
getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this);
return;
}
}
AuctionHouseItemLoader auctionHouseItemLoader = new FileItemLoader(...); //this is where I was planning on using factory
if (auctionHouseItemLoader == null) {
getLogger().severe("Unable to get the auction house item loader. Please check your config to see if your storage type is valid");
getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this);
return;
}
AuctionItemCache auctionItemCache = new AuctionItemCache(auctionHouseItemLoader);
}
Basically the factory holds all the knowledge of the dependencies of the classes it can or cannot make. The factory handles that. The consumer of the factory does not. Hence, passing dependency information to a factory defeats the purpose entirely.
The likely solution would be to make the FileHandler/ConfigHandler directly in the getImpl method, but overall this seems like not the best usecase for a factory
modest path
What you're trying to use the factory pattern here for seems like something that can be solved with flow control alone
potent fossil
Yup.
short yarrow
Okay I'll just do that
modest path
Furthermore, I'm likely to get yelled at by one of the pinknames for this, but i'd argue that the factory pattern itself is ugly :)
potent fossil
It's good when used properly
modest path
Can you show me an example of it used properly?
potent fossil
.
modest path
what
potent fossil
Can you show me an example of it used properly?
this is a contrived and pretty stupid example but yea https://replit.com/@simpleauthority/StickyFrigidShockwave#Main.java
basically, pre-defined objects and don't want to/infeasible to create them yourself, thus a factory will spit them out for you
in this example, not really useful but it is properly used
modest path
in this example, not really useful but it is properly used
Yep, properly used. I really can't see any decent practical use for it that can't be replaced by simpler code though. Regardless it's up to preference :)
You put so much effort into it too haha
potent fossil
Lots of copy pasta
(the predefined classes were written once and edited lmao)
I can't think of a great use for a factory at the moment but if anyone else has an example feel free to describe it
vernal moth
Factories is good to hide implementation details
You control who instanciates your classes
Thus can break api without affecting consumers
sand shuttle
and makes it easier to create and/or modify a specific thing
you know what sucks?
URIs and/or FileSystem 👀
limpid comet
hi
coarse lily
hi
sand shuttle
👋
plucky canopy
so uhh
I'm considering buying my first build
and I've been sitting on the idea for ab 4 days now, making my list
i've finally decided and i'd like some advice, just to double check the list and provide some feedback
vernal moth
Don't buy off brand PSUs
plucky canopy
F
vernal moth
That's almost always a bad decision
limpid comet
get more storage and 32gb ftw
vernal moth
If you but quality, your PSU is the component that will last you the longest
plucky canopy
I dont need more than a TB for now
vernal moth
My PSU is almost 10 years old
plucky canopy
I'd probably end up upgrading the PSU before it gives out dont you think?
mental meadow
PSU is the one component you really don't want to cheap out
vernal moth
You are missing an SSD, without it in 2021 it's really painful
You don't really ever need to upgrade an PSU
mental meadow
Because it powers everything else and is connected to everything else
Get a Corsair or bequiet or smth
vernal moth
There is no evolution in that market anymore, manufacturers build them to last, some give out 10 year warren ties
plucky canopy
I mean 600W sooner or later woudlnt be enough if I were to like, get a 3000 series card and a better cpu right?
mental meadow
Ive seen cheap PSUs die and take all the hardware with it
vernal moth
Only other issue I see is intel in 2021 but I guess that's personal preference
plucky canopy
Ive seen cheap PSUs die and take all the hardware with it
oof
vernal moth
So yeah, def add a couple more bucks and get a proper PSU, really consider an ssd, they aren't so expensive anymore anyways and essential to a build and reconsider your choice to go with intel ^^
plucky canopy
dang
mental meadow
Intel is fine
plucky canopy
whats minimum price I should spend for a PSU
nova plume
intel is fine as long as it doesnt blow up because of a budget psu
vernal moth
Price doesn't matter, just get one from a recognized brand
plucky canopy
the only reason im going intel is bc onboard graphics lol
until I get a gpu in like 2027 when theyre in stock again
vernal moth
Corsair, bequiet, Silverstone, etc
Oh I see, fair enough
I mean, amd makes CPUs with integrated graphics too, idk if those are released for ryzen 5000 yet
plucky canopy
whats montech
plucky canopy
I mean, amd makes CPUs with integrated graphics too, idk if those are released f...
theyre all expensive for less cores
plucky canopy
You should get a better PSU and if possible, 32GB of RAM
I dont need 32 yet
I just wanna start with something, ram is okay to buy later on
16 is my comfort zone for what I need
mental meadow
16 is fine :3
plucky canopy
I'm not gonna use it to get 300fps on ultra settings
untold copper
any good branded one
minor badge
get a mobo with 4 slots and you are good to upgrade to 32GB/64GB later on if necessary
plucky canopy
wd green xd
untold copper
works
novel horizon
<@!207878545727291392> how you produce lava for magmatic dynamo?
I just use hell
plucky canopy
would a good HDD beat a WD Green?
untold copper
how you get stuff from hell to not hell
plucky canopy
wd green is cheap asf
untold copper
WD is pog
novel horizon
Nether you just pump lava
minor badge
SSDs also will last a while and be fairly snappy even if an ish brand
novel horizon
Depends on mods
untold copper
I have a 10 year old WD green its still working
minor badge
prefer an SSD if possible
plucky canopy
I'm currently on a gaming laptop and im familiar with the benefits of my sweet ssd
untold copper
(and create)
plucky canopy
I have a 10 year old WD green its still working
i just mean the speeds
minor badge
HDDs will never compare with SSD speeds
coarse lily
SSD prices have come down a lot, too. So you can get a pretty cheap one as a main drive that doesn't have to be 1TB or anything.
plucky canopy
80mb/s write
plucky canopy
SSD prices have come down a lot, too. So you can get a pretty cheap one as a mai...
yeah I think ill do wd green for boot
mental meadow
You don't want windows on a HDD, you really don't
minor badge
I run a WD Blue 1TB HDD, WD Blue 1TB SSD, ADATA 256GB SSD, ADATA 512GB SSD, and a Toshiba 256GB SSD ^^ the SSDs are all faaar superior
wraith oracle
I don't think I ever needed more than a TB
I delete files regularly since I hate having the system full of junk I don't need anymore though
coarse lily
I like having the headroom, because you just never know if you need to transfer or dump something.
minor badge
I've got over 1TB of games alone 😅
coarse lily
But big spinning disks are cheap so having a larger secondary drive is handy.
wraith oracle
I don't play games, just development and youtube
coarse lily
You can get like a 12TB HD for a few hundred bucks :)
minor badge
yeah, if you can do it, go for it; I also run quite a few TB on my server for the sake of having media on it
wraith oracle
few hundred bucks
I used to play games but my hardware is like 10 years old by now, not worth doing it anymore
barely keep in touch with MC stuff due to my projects
coarse lily
If a good 1TB SSD is like ~$100 then paying like ~$250 for 12TB isn't that bad, comparatively.
wraith oracle
I mean, that kinda depends on your priorities
no matter how many games you have, you're never gonna fill that 12TB hard drive
coarse lily
Well sure. I'm not suggesting everyone has a spare $250 laying around.
wraith oracle
I'd say for a gamer, a 8TB hard drive should be good enough
potent fossil
.g wd green
limber knotBOT
coarse lily
Haha
vestal jasper
no matter how many games you have, you're never gonna fill that 12TB hard drive
1868.2 GB my steam library begs to differ
Wait
wraith oracle
do you even play all those games to have all of them installed
untold copper
proxy has so much storage lmao
wraith oracle
yeah lmao
untold copper
I run 2tb wd green hdd and 1tb wd blue hdd
novel horizon
What mods you use to pump?
You said you have 80 mods, no? I used multiple mods. RangedPumps mod, RFTools (great mod btw) and others
vestal jasper
Though idk if I can advocate for humbles recent changes, no longer letting you give more than 15% to charity.
minor badge
proxy has so much storage lmao
I don't have that much. A lot of it goes towards anime 
untold copper
lmao
plucky canopy
If a good 1TB SSD is like ~$100 then paying like ~$250 for 12TB isn't that bad, ...
im confused
wheres the $250 12TB coming from
coarse lily
I was talking to Snow-Pyon
plucky canopy
you referring to HDD?
coarse lily
Yes.
coarse lily
I was saying you could get a very large HDD / spinning disk for pretty cheap, comparatively, if you wanted.
coarse lily
I don't have that much. A lot of it goes towards anime <:dorime:6622284608776438...
I just have 100TB of proxi heart screenshots.
coarse lily
I think ssd for windows is smarter
I meant as a secondary disk, but I agree.
wraith oracle
just get a lot of ram and run windows on ram to get the fastest experience /s
minor badge
Have a little extra storage for your Windows main drive!! A surprising amount of apps still insist on being on C:
wraith oracle
I hate the fact that apps store their cache and stuff on Roaming
and never delete it when uninstalling the program
or even the program itself in roaming (discord be like, yes, this looks like program files)
nova plume
some people like that
its user based install vs pc install
if you have no admin rights ||ahem ahem dont use windows|| then its quite nice
nova plume
fair enough, tho linux gaming has come far
wraith oracle
yeah, it is still a lot to deal with though steam is making it a lot easier
I hope for the day linux becomes a fully viable gaming solution
nova plume
i personally use linux on my laptop because it actually recognises my dgpu and vsync actually recognises that i have a 120hz display
but i need to use windows for solidworks and stuff
limpid comet
@minor badge hi proxi
potent fossil
hi blue
potent fossil
im okidoke how r u
potent fossil
enjoy
limpid comet
i will
what was that new jetbrains thing that let you remote code
i wanna check that out
next frost
limpid comet
thanks 👍
left swift
Blorp
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